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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan,

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Speaker 1: I had a good Monday morning to you, Mark Tyton.

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Speaker 1: As always on the opening montage here, nothing says Colts

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Speaker 1: Bye week like a montage that includes Davis Mills, Tim

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Speaker 1: Patrick and Cairo Santos. Mark the Bears good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They've sure give me heart palpitations the last like four weeks.

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Speaker 1: The one game behind the Colts, right, I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: and that to me is wild.

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Speaker 3: It's wild to me too because I'm sitting there and

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Speaker 3: I'm imf in them weekly and I'm like, what are

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Speaker 3: we doing here? And they still find ways to win.

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Speaker 3: So Ashley's like, did they win or not? Because I

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Speaker 3: can't tell by your mood, I'm like, day won, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how though.

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Speaker 4: This is how I know Mark is a part of

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Speaker 4: the Boyd family because I went home. Is my family

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Speaker 4: in Chicago, my uncle and my cousin in particular, those

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Speaker 4: two father and son are die hard Bears fans, and

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Speaker 4: they react to everything. It is like theater class. They

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Speaker 4: get up, they run around, they scream, they yell. If

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Speaker 4: it were up to the everyone will be cut or

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Speaker 4: fired before the end of the game, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: a team. But yeah, at the end of it, my

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Speaker 4: uncle sat there and he was so mad at the

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Speaker 4: way that they won because he didn't thin it's sustainable.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, they're seven and three. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about the Colts turn around. The Bears have

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Speaker 4: stunk for years, so this is honestly kind of funny

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Speaker 4: to see them at this spot.

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Speaker 3: It was just one of those things where it's like

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Speaker 3: you saw you saw the lead, and you're like, they're

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Speaker 3: not gonna keep this lead, and sure enough they didn't,

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Speaker 3: and then you're like, up, there's the go ahead touchdown.

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Speaker 3: There's less than a minute left. I'm like, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: find a way to win this game. And I'm still

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Speaker 3: gonna be upset because I'm like, why, how did you

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Speaker 3: make this a game? Because JJ McCarthy stunk to High

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Speaker 3: Heaven for three and a half quarters and then they

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Speaker 3: ended up pulling it out anyway, so it's like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, how they how are they good? I don't

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Speaker 3: understand what's going on here? And then I'm like, are

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Speaker 3: the Broncos good? Because I said, you know, on Friday

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Speaker 3: they need to knock off the Chiefs and then their

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Speaker 3: boom there they go. So I'm like, well, the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: are they legit?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea that defense is major legit, I

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Speaker 1: can I can assure you that's true of that. A

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Speaker 1: good Monday morning again to I'm Kevin Bowen, James Boyd

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Speaker 1: and Mark Dacton alongside hopefully Jeff. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Joe Wrights, he's going to join us at

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Speaker 1: seven point thirty Culture Radio an let's hurt him on

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Speaker 1: the call over there in Berlin, alongside Matt Taylor. So

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Speaker 1: the always energetic Joe Wrights to join us here out

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Speaker 1: of the gate and Tony East coming up at nine.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a lot of football conversation on the plate today.

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Speaker 1: But once again that opening montage includes how many Pacers highlights?

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Speaker 1: Zero zero? Probably for good reason, for very well, I

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Speaker 1: guess good reason, but also disappointing reason as they continue

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Speaker 1: to be the worst team I guess record wise in

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Speaker 1: the entire NBA. It's best versus worst.

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Speaker 4: So you don't have to put any qualifiers in there.

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Speaker 1: Worst team in the league, Yeah, Wizards, right, aren't they

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Speaker 1: also one win team?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But so the Pacers will play the Pistons tonight up

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Speaker 1: the worst team record wise, and and how quickly it

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Speaker 1: can change. We'll see Benedic Maatheren plays. He has been

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Speaker 1: upgraded to questionable. We have no seen him since night

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Speaker 1: number two in the NBA season, So maybe a glimmer

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Speaker 1: of something to watch for tonight as the Pacers and

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Speaker 1: Pistons get together there. Detroit has a back to back,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see exactly how they handle it. As crazy

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Speaker 1: as it sounds, it would make sense for quality NBA

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Speaker 1: teams to rest guys against Indiana Pacers right now, that.

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Speaker 4: Would be the case. But I feel like the Pistons

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Speaker 4: their team? I feel like there's a bunch of twenty

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they's got a bunch of dusless as questionable, And

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Speaker 1: the reverse. You're gonna play your guys against the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: So we'll definitely hit on that today. Bye week home

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Speaker 1: for you, James Boyd.

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Speaker 4: So you just said earlier, got to go see the

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Speaker 4: out and she hated it the entire time. She was like,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe you're gonna embarrass me.

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Speaker 1: Like, so that was out in public.

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Speaker 4: It was out in public. I told her these need

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Speaker 4: Told her, hey, this is we're part of the family.

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Speaker 4: Now you got to, you know, get on board. Your

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Speaker 4: son lives in Indiana. You have to accept this. And

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing the family.

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Speaker 1: Maddie had to take a look at the TV last

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Speaker 1: night watching Indiana and she goes, what is that school's

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Speaker 1: a game in the tournament. So a little college basketball

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Speaker 1: recap from the weekend. Boy, we talked about it on

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Speaker 1: Friday show. I thought it was a great week eleven slate.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a great slate for your team

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Speaker 1: In the one o'clock window back and forth Galore, Mark

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Speaker 1: showed I would say one of the highlights of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: the weekend there the Mark Andrews fake tush push. That

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Speaker 1: was awesome, excellent from Todd Monkin and company there on

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Speaker 1: the water cooler stat that could stump anybody now moving forward.

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Speaker 1: guru for us at Scottie and he's got all the stats, yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is a great brainbuster to anybody that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll be four. And I do this. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you all do this. You just throw out random stuff

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Speaker 4: years from now with your friends or your buddies and

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Speaker 4: you're going, hey, remember one that one person did this?

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Speaker 4: Hey do you remember for a long time there that

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Speaker 4: I think the record now is Klay Thompson went fourteen.

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Speaker 4: But just the randomness of it.

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Speaker 1: Forty seven, I had no idea that don Yelle Marshall

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Speaker 4: Yes, see again those are the types of things. But

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Speaker 4: Jacob Weressett forty seven completions. I want to say he

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Speaker 1: I get there's an element of like, yes, they throw

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Speaker 1: think it's a bad bye week for them. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to look at it, mark again, playing

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs this weekend. But they will do so. They

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Speaker 1: that is just because largely Denver, New England have played

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Speaker 1: more games than the Colts there. BI weeks will cycle

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. That's a Scottie question.

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Speaker 1: Like, here are the Texans at five hundred.

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Speaker 4: Which seems like a miracle for them because they've dealt

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Speaker 1: And they play on a short week this week. Then

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Speaker 1: very good. They have built eight and two, and again,

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Speaker 1: They are the mosquitoes still sticking around somehow here in

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Speaker 1: the month of October or November, I.

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Speaker 4: Would agree there, and I think this second half of

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Speaker 4: your real tests are coming, and that's not to discredit

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Speaker 4: what the Colts have done. They've earned their eight and

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Speaker 4: two record, but yeah, I think it gets a little

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Speaker 4: they're gonna play with some desperation come next Sunday because

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Speaker 4: if they don't win that game, boy, we have to

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Speaker 4: think about the Chiefs being in the playoffs. Those types

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Speaker 4: you said, the division matchups still waiting.

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Speaker 1: I always walk into our building with one of the

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Speaker 1: maintenance workers next door is seemingly him and I are

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Speaker 1: off the parking garage of them. This week, I was like,

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Speaker 1: they got the Chief spons they stink me twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five and people say, the Chief stink. I know you

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Speaker 1: got this. Feels like you have a chance one time

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Speaker 1: opening montages with no Pacers highlights with Tim Patrick and

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Speaker 4: A chance to slay the dragon man put them on

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Speaker 1: And that's what Jeff alluded to. This late last week.

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Speaker 1: Much more on that, Yes, and a few let's out

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Speaker 1: If I have my date right here, Joe writes, I'm

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first from Joe Wright's words to

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Speaker 5: Well, that was the Wednesday of Leak one and Kevin.

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Speaker 4: Joe, as a former offensive lineman, what is it like

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Speaker 5: And you've seen that's kind of been the program. Right,

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Speaker 4: One quick follow up to that run in Berlin. After

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Speaker 5: this year, but Pittsburgh. Those were my three favorite stadiums

435
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Speaker 5: to play in because you always had just an awesome environment.

436
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Speaker 5: And yeah, Kansas City and Denver we had some success

437
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 5: in it, but not Pittsburgh. But yeah, it'll be a

438
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Speaker 5: fun one coming up on Sunday. And I think for

439
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 5: the Colts again, everything to me is about it's the

440
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 5: next game and what's most important. But the previous ten

441
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Speaker 5: you've put yourself in a position to contend for the

442
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Speaker 5: top spot in the AFC, and that's really all you

443
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 5: can ask for. Now, it's about continuing to get better

444
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Speaker 5: these next seven games. Then I'd be remiss if I

445
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 5: didn't comment on the trade for Sauce Gardener. I know

446
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 5: you guys have talked about a bunch on your show,

447
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 5: but just watching him in person, seeing his length, seeing

448
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 5: his size and athleticism, you get a healthy ward back

449
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 5: in the secondary with Gardner Kenny Moore, who's an elite

450
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Speaker 5: Nickel and buying them and Cross and I really think

451
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Speaker 5: you have a very good argument that you have the

452
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Speaker 5: best secondary unit now in the NFL. And when you

453
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Speaker 5: go and play in these games against some of these

454
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Speaker 5: good quarterbacks and a lot of good receivers, now you

455
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Speaker 5: have second and third and fourth options when you can

456
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Speaker 5: cover guys, and I just think that's really really important

457
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Speaker 5: for the Colts coming down the stretch there. I'm excited

458
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Speaker 5: to watch that secondary someday kind of all playing together

459
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Speaker 5: healthy for the first time and seeing what they can

460
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Speaker 5: do on the back end.

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Speaker 1: Kind of on that point, Joe and last one, and

462
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Speaker 1: we certainly appreciate your time on this Monday morning. The

463
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Speaker 1: ward addition with Sauce obviously comparing that to the deforce

464
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Speaker 1: Buckner subtraction for however long it's going to be. How

465
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Speaker 1: do you kind of view that right now, which you've

466
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Speaker 1: theoretically upgraded significantly in the secondary, but at the same

467
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Speaker 1: time you potentially have lost your best defensive player for

468
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Speaker 1: at least a month.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a tough loss. I mean, he's out

470
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Speaker 5: at least three more weeks. And you saw, you know,

471
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Speaker 5: some of the success Atlanta had running the football against Buckner,

472
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Speaker 5: and he's so good not only in the run game,

473
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Speaker 5: in the pass game and just his leadership. So you know,

474
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Speaker 5: I always say that the pass rush in the secondary

475
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Speaker 5: work hand in hand, right, If you can cover well

476
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Speaker 5: on the back end, you know, that gives more time

477
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Speaker 5: for those pass rushers to get there, and the more

478
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Speaker 5: he can heat them up early on, then you're able

479
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Speaker 5: to get the quarterback to force the ball out of

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Speaker 5: his hand quickly. So that's going to be a big

481
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Speaker 5: loss for Buckner. But you need guys to step up,

482
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Speaker 5: you know. I think Anabarre has done well in there.

483
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Speaker 5: I think you know, JT. Toulimolio, I think he's shown

484
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Speaker 5: some flashes now getting some playing time, especially as a

485
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Speaker 5: pass rusher on the interior, you know, rushing on those

486
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Speaker 5: guards in the center, maybe on third down. And so

487
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Speaker 5: excited to watch some of those young guys blossom. And

488
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Speaker 5: we're going to need that development because obviously that's a

489
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Speaker 5: big loss without Buckner in there, solidified in the middle.

490
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Speaker 1: This from George to my boys are in a lacrosse

491
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Speaker 1: tournament at Grand Park. We kept popping into Matt and

492
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Speaker 1: Joe and the call in Germany. Great insight as my

493
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Speaker 1: fourth grader said, it was almost like we're watching it

494
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Speaker 1: on TV. I would say that is quite the compliment.

495
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Speaker 1: Speaking of fourth grade, Joe, is there our Lady Mount

496
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Speaker 1: Carmel undefeated season that just wrapped up? I'd be remiss

497
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Speaker 1: if I didn't give a little shout out to Raider Nation.

498
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, thank you. Yeah, the Raiders got it done.

499
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Speaker 5: We had a tough championship game, but we got it done.

500
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Speaker 5: So four straight city championships for the boys. So it

501
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Speaker 5: was it was a lot of fun. And now we

502
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 5: can dial in one hundred percent of the Colts here

503
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: these last couple months. But it's fun. You can feel

504
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 5: the buzz Kevin in Indianapolis on Mondays and people are

505
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 5: walking around and they're talking about the Colts and you know,

506
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 5: you and I both know well, I mean, we were

507
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Speaker 5: both working for the organization. The last time we hosted

508
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 5: a playoff game was twenty fifteen, which is kind of

509
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 5: crazy to think about, but so it's fun to kind

510
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Speaker 5: of envision that for the future. We got a long

511
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 5: way to go, and there's there's seven more games to play,

512
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Speaker 5: but it's setting up to be a fun January here

513
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Speaker 5: with Colts football in Indianapolis and I know Colts Nation,

514
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 5: we are. We are hungry for some playoff wins. So

515
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Speaker 5: let's go out and let's get it done.

516
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Speaker 1: The starting right tackle and that last home a playoff

517
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Speaker 1: game was Indeed, Joe Writ's a little different off oak

518
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Speaker 1: Ridge Road in one hundred and forty sixth He is

519
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Speaker 1: the great Joe Wrights. He's with us here and he'll

520
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Speaker 1: be on the call coming up Sunday at Arrowhead Joe

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Speaker 1: as always, sir, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Right, thanks, Pallas, have a great Monday afternoon.

523
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Speaker 1: Joe Wright's right there on the pay Less Liquors hotline.

524
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Speaker 1: I want to get into that maybe a little bit later, James,

525
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Speaker 1: how do you weigh return of moody ward arrival sas

526
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: Gardner of course, versus subtraction of the forest Buckner? Does it?

527
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Speaker 1: Is it even?

528
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Speaker 7: Is it? You know?

529
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Speaker 1: Is it more significant one way or the other? How

530
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Speaker 1: is that kind of viewed right now? Because again, there

531
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Speaker 1: is a chance that your various award will indeed make

532
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Speaker 1: us return here coming up on Sunday at Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: Which I'm sure everyone is hoping for. Like I mentioned

534
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: last week, money Ward did make the trip over to Berlin.

535
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Speaker 4: I don't think you make that trip and fly a

536
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Speaker 4: nine hours at high I don't know distance in the sky.

537
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: Excuse if you're not knowing the term if you have

538
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: a concussion and you're still felt the symptoms of it.

539
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 4: So he seems like he's shaping the bit to get

540
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Speaker 4: back out there, and I'm sure they're going to welcome

541
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Speaker 4: him back whenever that is the case. And that'll be

542
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Speaker 4: a question we ask Shane Steichletter today will that window

543
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Speaker 4: be open for him to return this week? But yeah,

544
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything that's not obvious here, but replacing

545
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 4: the Forest Buckner is darn near impossible. But for the

546
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 4: time being, you have to figure out what are your options.

547
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Speaker 4: And I will say to that to Joe's point, Addi

548
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: Tamawall Autobarrey, I think has looked a lot better than

549
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 4: I expected him to be. Honestly, even being undersized. He's

550
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Speaker 4: a dudeho plays with some force, some grittiness and make

551
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: some plays. But we all know that buck I mean,

552
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 4: he is the back one of that D line, and

553
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Speaker 4: the D line has not been strong enough in my opinion,

554
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: even with him. So without him, how do you try

555
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: to generate some more pressure And does that kind of

556
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Speaker 4: go hand in hand with getting one of your top

557
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Speaker 4: couarterbacks back.

558
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Speaker 1: Just to update everybody's standings wise, the Colts entered this

559
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: week as the one seed. With New England winning on

560
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: Thursday night. With Denver hitting that field goal yesterday the buzzer,

561
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Speaker 1: they both climb above the Colts basically just because the

562
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Speaker 1: schedule how it's played out. Neither of those teams have

563
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Speaker 1: had their buy yet. Denver will have their buy this week.

564
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Speaker 1: New England will have their buy in a few weeks,

565
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Speaker 1: but those two are at nine and two. The Colts

566
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Speaker 1: now are at eight and two. If there's any tie

567
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: within two or three of those teams, BLUs you mark

568
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: the Colts will have the tiebreaker. As of now, they

569
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Speaker 1: obviously have the head to head over Denver based off

570
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: that week to win, and then with New England they

571
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Speaker 1: would have the better head to head because of a

572
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: conference record currently, So again, logistically, I guess you could

573
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Speaker 1: say the Coults are the three seed right now, but

574
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Speaker 1: as long as they continue to win and once the

575
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Speaker 1: bye weeks through, the Colts will be in that one seed.

576
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Speaker 1: Spots Colts Chargers the playoffs started today.

577
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Speaker 4: I feel good about that matchup. Chargers are very banged up.

578
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 4: I feel like they're just going through injury after injury upfront.

579
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Speaker 4: And their offensive line, I don't think it's been the

580
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: same all year. We've talked about the Colts offensive line

581
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 4: being one of their strong suits this year. As far

582
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Speaker 4: as just availability, I don't think they started a different

583
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Speaker 4: five all year. Knock on wood.

584
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Speaker 1: There just the Rams game right Wingingsalvez at his toe?

585
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Speaker 4: Did he miss that game?

586
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Speaker 1: I think that was the only game.

587
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

588
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Speaker 4: So if that's the case, that is very good.

589
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's rare, rare.

590
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: Exactly, and it kind of leads into a lot of

591
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Speaker 4: success you've had with Daniel Jones driving his career here

592
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Speaker 4: in Indianapolis and JT going off. But as we know,

593
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Speaker 4: I do think as we talk about the offensive line,

594
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Speaker 4: the conversation for this week is as you go to

595
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Speaker 4: Kansas City, can you correct some of the things we

596
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Speaker 4: saw kind of popping up the last couple of weeks

597
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Speaker 4: with the pressure that Daniel Jones was facing, the turnovers

598
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: that were a result of that. I can't put that

599
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: all on Daniel Jones. I think he has to, you know,

600
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: take care of the ball a little bit better, and

601
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 4: by that I mean just two hands on it when

602
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 4: you're in the pocket. But we've seen when he gets

603
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: a good offensive line, he is a good quarterback. When

604
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: he starts get a little panicky, it's because he doesn't

605
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: trust his offensive line, and they haven't given him a

606
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: lot of reasons to trust him. With these twelve sacks

607
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: in the last two games versus nine, I believe in

608
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 4: the first eight.

609
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Speaker 1: If you had to bet today, Mark Dykin, if you

610
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: had to bet right now, I hand you a twenty

611
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: dollars bill. Oh, you have to bet on the Bears

612
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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game or the Chiefs to win

613
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Speaker 1: a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean, I'd be an idiot not

615
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: to take the Chiefs right now, because the Bears, just

616
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Speaker 3: like I said, week after week, they're barely getting by

617
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Speaker 3: in some of these.

618
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Speaker 1: Bab hosting a playoff game, No, the Chiefs would be

619
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Speaker 1: sitting on the couch now, Watson, I'm gonna take I'm

620
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: gonna take tried and true, I'm gonna take Andy. You

621
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Speaker 1: don't think the Cults are gonna beats the Chiefs this

622
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: weekend and hammer one more nail into them.

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Speaker 4: That's a possibility. It's possible.

624
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Speaker 3: I'm not counting the Chiefs out until they're actually like, nope,

625
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 3: they are officially eliminated.

626
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Speaker 4: That's how I've always felt about the Golden State Warriors

627
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: and Steph Curry. I will never count them out until

628
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 4: you show me the body of Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: That's just how it is.

630
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Speaker 4: Same thing with Patrick Mahomes. You're always gonna get the

631
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: benefit of doubt with you're a guy that's that great.

632
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: Max has this crab toy that I feel the same

633
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: way about. I'm like, how how is that thing not dead?

634
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: I swear we have. I've taken the batteries out of

635
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: that thing. I have knocked it against the wall. I'm

636
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: done with that thing, and it just keeps on showing up.

637
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: Probably possessed.

638
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: Probably at that point if you're taking the batteries out

639
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: and it's still doing things.

640
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: I was like, Matt, Max has a little engineering background,

641
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: Like I'm watching Toy Story five speaking about barrier and things.

642
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: You needed to get that thing out of there and

643
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: get it out of your house, James.

644
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: Is the best thing about living an apartment not having

645
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: to do leaves.

646
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not having to deal with anything really, like

647
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: something breaks in the apartment. I think I had a

648
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: garbage disposal issue. I just made one email and they

649
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: were there with the like twenty minutes.

650
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Speaker 1: To fix it.

651
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Speaker 4: That's the best part.

652
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, those we're north of twenty back and I don't

653
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: live like in a big like a big house or

654
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: big yard, and we had north of twenty bags. The

655
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: twenty bags twenty I swear, I'm incided every leaf in

656
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm the home with the neighbors, trees come into my yard.

657
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, like that must be the case. Yeah,

658
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: we'll get recruit the neighbors.

659
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: We have one tree in our back yard, but it's

660
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: humongous and it just drops millions of leaves and I

661
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not touching it. So instead of bagging them,

662
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: I just mulched them up with the lawnmower. Took care

663
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: of But what not a single bag? What is the

664
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: thought process on that? Are we supposed to mow the

665
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: leaves or we bag them? I think I mulch them

666
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: just because I think I mean leaves are you know,

667
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: they if they break down, they go back into the earth.

668
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: And all that stuff. So I've always done it that way.

669
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: Bill, Well I'm not way because always what are you

670
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: doing in the back of the leaves, you just send

671
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: them out to wear the woods.

672
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Well a trash with you, Mark, you care about the environment.

673
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: Clearly it's being ron El conscious.

674
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 7: No.

675
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: I I mean you can bag them, but I also

676
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: just like, well, I'm not feeling like garbage bags my

677
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: trash cans with garbage bags and leaves. I'll just mulch

678
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: them up or I'll burn them or something. Now you

679
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: figure for all of them, you don't bag some of

680
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: them and then mult like bag a single one of them.

681
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: They're all mulched up and in the like Mike Wells

682
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: he ran for that in school board and Rick's County and.

683
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Mulched up and good to go.

684
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: That's exactly what do you have to deal with that?

685
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: Is that like an hoa thing where it's like you

686
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: have to We don't have an h thank god, so

687
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with it. Yeah, I mean,

688
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: I think there's a thought where you're supposed to leave

689
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: some of the leaves for help. Uh, the nutrition of

690
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: the lawn. I think Mark was kind of yeah, get

691
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: into that here, But if I started talking about that,

692
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: I'll get exposed real real quick. Coming up eight o'clock hour,

693
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: let's get in the paper talking about it's cooking a steak. Yeah,

694
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: stick to dinous. I thought Pascal Siakam had some profound

695
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: words over the weekend. Also, Chris Ballard speaking of the

696
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: sauce gardener trade as we just chatted about with Joe

697
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Wright's his comments, I believe the first public comments about

698
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: that trade will play that for you. I'm coming here

699
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: in the eight o'clock hour as well. Kevin Bowen, James Boyd,

700
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: Mark Dyke. Then, thank you for starting off your week

701
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: with us. It's the way right there to Kevin Bowen's heart.

702
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton, give me some Kasha.

703
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 4: I hope she's doing well. She put out Bangers, Bangers

704
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: with a Z no s in the name.

705
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: That's a dollar sign, k E dollar sign.

706
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: H A.

707
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: I've seen kesh and concert three times. WHOA I know that.

708
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: I drove to Louisville's here one night. It had to

709
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: be great vibe on a weeknight.

710
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: This is just positive.

711
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: Long ago?

712
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: Was this was this recently? Probably pre kids? I think

713
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: it was last week last week. You imagine I was

714
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: just born.

715
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I took Nelly, I put Nellie in the coat rack

716
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: in her car seat and just you know, sat in

717
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: the back and if I heard her scream then it

718
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: was fine.

719
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

720
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: That's probably seven here.

721
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: I've never wanted to fight you, But if I see

722
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 4: Nelly on the simbacam at the next Colts home game

723
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 4: and it looks like the Simolac is still honor, I'm

724
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: gonna be ready to fight you.

725
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: One of the oldest things you've ever said. Dropping the

726
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: drop even knows what it is. I'm shot. God, man,

727
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: do you want a babysit? Are you s we weren't

728
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: the bottles? Yeah, but you know a couple of things.

729
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: I think we introduced bottles here. It's in the next

730
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: week or so.

731
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: That might be the most jarring thing I've ever heard

732
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: James say on these.

733
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Areas predicted Miles mc seventy yards big.

734
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: What can I say?

735
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: Unbelievable man. We'll talk more pacers with Tony East coming

736
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: up at nine. Mark Dyton c us up for some

737
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: goats of the weekend.

738
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: Who is the goat?

739
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I told you all that I was the greatest of

740
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: all time, Georgy.

741
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 7: Here's Michael at the filine.

742
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: I shot on em all gods.

743
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: The goat or goat?

744
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 7: This guy sucks of the week.

745
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Similac and James.

746
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Boyd man, that was excellent, excellent, boy, This might be

747
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: one of the more eye opening segments. Some people are like,

748
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know Kevin Bowen was a Kusha fan, and no, no, no,

749
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: James Boyd knew what Similac was. But nonetheless, Mark Dyton,

750
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you decide. Your Bears are seven and three.

751
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: They're the worst seven to three football team I've ever seen.

752
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: I know, but they're seven and three and they can't

753
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: stop a lick. They're leading arguably the best division in

754
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: all of football right now? Do you want to start

755
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: good goat or bad goat? Well, it was a Cults

756
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: bye week, but I would argue it was kind of

757
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: a bad bye week, wouldn't you say? Jaguars one, probably fair,

758
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Jaxon's one, Broncos beat the Chief, Patriots winn. If you

759
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: got yeah, nothing.

760
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: Great, I would say, yeah, you didn't get any help,

761
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 3: So you're going negative?

762
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: To start negative goat? Where are you going?

763
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: This might sound crazy? I think the Arizona Cardinals are

764
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: the worst football team in the NFL. Like I know,

765
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Jacobe Brissett just set the completion thing. But they are bad, bad, bad,

766
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: They are really terrible.

767
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: Brother, have you watched the Jets? Going to watch the Jets?

768
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: God watched the Jets.

769
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: But I'm like I watching the Cardinals last throwing the

770
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: Browns and act like Miles Garrison. I'm watching them and

771
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: they and like this is I feel like the second

772
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: or third time in a row where the Cardinals are

773
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: out of it within like the first like half of

774
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: the first quarter. I thought they had a bunch of

775
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: one score losses before that. I did, But they're down

776
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: Like they played the Seahawks. They were down like twenty

777
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: to nothing instantly.

778
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 4: Are they having like a pacer sort of effect where

779
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: the fight is wearing off a little bit?

780
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they'd had no Marvin Harrison and everything. I mean,

781
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: it's just it's not good. And like what's the plan

782
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray? They seem to have pulled that. I

783
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: mean he wasn't even in He's in street clothes and everything.

784
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: I just feel like, what are we doing here?

785
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: Yeah?

786
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: Cardinals are not good. I don't enjoy watching them at all.

787
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: And I hate that they're on the time zone, like

788
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: probably gives them a lot of late window kicks because

789
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: they're not a good team to watch.

790
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: Man, I did not have that on the Bengo card.

791
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: All right, James Wood, where are you going for your negative?

792
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 4: Go Jamar Chase. You spit on somebody, Come on, man,

793
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: like you lost the game. That's enough. But then we

794
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: see on the replay, Jayleen Ramsey punched you, and everyone's going,

795
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: why did he punch him? You say I didn't spit

796
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 4: on him. I didn't even open my mouth after Ramsey.

797
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: Accuse you of that. And then we see the video

798
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: and you hock two with the man. Not good.

799
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm going with that cop at the A and M

800
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: South Carolina game. I mean, I am all for SEC football.

801
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean I love SEC football more than anybody. I

802
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: think the drama, the the the reality show. Matty's obsessed

803
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: with that Mormon Wives reality show right now. Honestly, the

804
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: SEC should just create a reality show. It would be

805
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: absolutely electric. I know what the hell that cop was

806
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: thinking after? Was it South Carolina scored? It was the

807
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: A and M cop right, Yeah, he was tripping. Sounded

808
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: like they relieved him of his duties there, My good

809
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: go to the weekend. I am all about the tush push, wrinkles,

810
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: the tush push. We talk about it endlessly. It should

811
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: be bam blah blah blah. I loved what the Baltimore

812
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: Ravens did yesterday, Mark Andrews under center. They faked the

813
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: tush push, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry go left a little

814
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: counter by Mark Andrews to the right, and that was

815
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: what a thirty thirty five yard touchdown, A huge play

816
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: to help them defeat the Cleveland Browns. That was my

817
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: go to the weekend. I loved a tush push wrinkle.

818
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: It's about time we've seen him.

819
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 4: My good goat. I would have to go with Stephen Curry.

820
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: He is amazing. Back to back forty point games over

821
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: the weekend against the Spurs, and in the second one

822
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: when he scored forty nine, he shot a step back

823
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 4: three over Wimby and then stared Wimby down before the

824
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: ball would even even went through the hoop. So that

825
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 4: to me was bizarre, crazy. And Steph is just a maniac.

826
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: There's no other player. I probably watching my life where

827
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: I think that's the greatest player ever.

828
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: Kevin just showed like a half dozen ketchup pictures from

829
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: a concert he was at and they ketch a T shirt.

830
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 4: You were close close too, You're a real fan.

831
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: It was like a small little lake. Uh picture like

832
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: I got in a high five or something like that.

833
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, not like a huge concert venue by any mean.

834
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: It was on four Street, Louisville. I forgot the venue,

835
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: but I bought one of those T shirts at the

836
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: at the Uh you know what, twenty nine ninety nine.

837
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: Probably just a total waste, total waste of money. But

838
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: I know this is the phantom did shrink instantly? Let

839
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: me look at it. It's like a medium on me. No,

840
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: you imagine that thing fit me? Now you probably fit Rosie.

841
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: Uh My good goat had nothing to do with football,

842
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: was what I did after football last night, after the

843
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: calmed down.

844
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: Time.

845
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: It's a family show and we're a little over her.

846
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: What should we do with this? With this free time

847
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: we have?

848
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: We fired up. We are all picked up. Get your

849
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: minds out of the gutter, people, we fired up.

850
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 3: The pilot episode of Pluribus, the new show by Vince Dilligan,

851
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: Holy hell, was that good.

852
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend that. I would say best to

853
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: go into it without with doubt, just don't know as

854
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: much as possible to watch it.

855
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: It was thrilling, it was creepy, it was intense, It

856
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: was funny. I can't wait to get out of here

857
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 3: and watch episodes two and three that have already dropped

858
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: on Apple TV.

859
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Pluribys.

860
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: If you like Breaking Bad, if you like Better call

861
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: Salts a little Different was by the guy that made

862
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: both of those excellent, excellent, excellent.

863
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: I was jaw on the floor. It was awesome trying

864
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: to add that boy to the dyked In family here.

865
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: That would be you know, science come and I can't

866
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: do that just yet.

867
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: Well, got a little risk gay there for a second.

868
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Maybe head to Panama? Where the going here? You never

869
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: know what those stem cells can do down under? All right,

870
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna side it is Tony East. He's gonna talk

871
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: a little pacers with us next at nine o'clock on

872
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: a Monday. Another Kesha banger here, courtesy of Mark Dyton.

873
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: Hey, I didn't know you were that deep of a fan,

874
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: but we've unearthed something from Kevin Bowen.

875
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: So Dollar signed for the very critical. When you're spelling

876
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Kesh's name, k E. Dollar signed h a here Pacers.

877
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: Piston's coming up tonight up there in Detroit. Let me

878
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: throw some words at you guys. Okay, all right, hear

879
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: me out on this list, Dennis Morris, Peter Martin Bradley.

880
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: Sounds like the Apostles.

881
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: James Mark says, the Apostles, the Temptations. No, I have

882
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: no idea, Dennis Morris, Peter Martin Bradley. What if I

883
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: added one more? What if I added Robinson Earl?

884
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: These all the players that were on hardship contracts or

885
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: non guarantee contract with the Facers.

886
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: That was a Tony east tweet one night recently. Of

887
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: the bench players available to the Pacers in a game.

888
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: That would be Ray j Dennis, that would be my Morris,

889
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: that would be Taylor Peter, that would be who the

890
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: hell's the Martin, Cody mar Martin, his name is brother,

891
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Tony Bradley, Martineremiah, Robinson Earl. Let's bring Tony East on.

892
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I say that half jokingly, half seriously, like how can

893
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: we be critical of the Pacers right now? I just

894
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: named their bench Mark thought it was the Apostles, and

895
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: James thought it was the Temptations. No, David Ruffin, I

896
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: mean like, yeah, I just struggled with it. Tony East

897
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: Good morning to you. How are you? I'm good?

898
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 6: Unlike the PACER's health this year as you just played

899
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 6: out And the craziest part of that sweet is the.

900
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 7: Reason I went through that is ray J.

901
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 6: Dennis was the longest tenured pacer of the group. They

902
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 6: signed him in January. Like, not only is it not

903
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 6: like the worldst talented five players, it's.

904
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 7: Just like this, like they have no experience at all.

905
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 7: It was and longah hold they got blasted that night.

906
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 7: It's just been brutal for them.

907
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously a lot to unpack here. We appreciate the time. Okay,

908
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: let's start with maybe I would say the biggest individual

909
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: disappointment so far this season. That would be Jarris Walker.

910
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Your observations from Jarris's game.

911
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 5: Have been what, yes, and very poor.

912
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: I mean the road trip he just went on. He

913
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 6: was eight for thirty nine from the field of eleven turnovers.

914
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: I don't think more tours than made shots is anyone's

915
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 6: favorite four game stretch ever. And it's been kind of

916
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 6: odd the way it's gonna because I don't know you

917
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 6: guys felt. But he played that game in Dallas, you know,

918
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 6: earlier in the season. It was his first start of

919
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 6: the season, and he was good. The first quarter was

920
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 6: probably the best stretch of play he's had, like ever,

921
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 6: he was guarding really well, he made shots, he wasn't

922
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 6: turning it over very often. He looked really good, and

923
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: so I wonder, you know, he talked on that broadcast

924
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 6: that night about like, you know, starting was good for

925
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 6: him that night and it helped him with focus and

926
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 6: stuff like that.

927
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: And then since then he's just.

928
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 6: Progressively kind of following the opposite direction and he's back of.

929
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 7: Starting five.

930
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 6: With Thearony Smith out now. So I wanted to out

931
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 6: juice him up in their last game, and it did not.

932
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 6: He missed a bunch of shots. Again, he's had some flow.

933
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 6: He turnos every night, and he's just not putting anything

934
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: together right, like stuff that you hope to get out

935
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 6: of his game, which is making a read but throwing

936
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: a terrible pass. That's still happening all the time. He

937
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 6: can't guard the faster players who.

938
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 7: Just get by him and get where they want to go.

939
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 7: All the time.

940
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 6: It feels like he, you know, has a couple possessions

941
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 6: of every game where it's like he's just not paying

942
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 6: attention to what's going on.

943
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 7: It's just all very strange.

944
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 6: And this was a huge even if he wasn't sticking,

945
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 6: even if they weren't hurt huge opportunity for him this

946
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 6: season for playing every game and being a constant twenty

947
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 6: plus minute a night kind of guy, and instead he's

948
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 6: just been woefully inefficient and turned it over a bunch

949
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 6: of his defense doesn't look any better, Like what what

950
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 6: is this player supposed to be?

951
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 7: You know what? What what are his strength supposed to

952
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 7: be when the team is good again? He hasn't shown

953
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 7: any of those things.

954
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 6: So not only is he's not contributing, he's not giving

955
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 6: himself a chance to be a key part of the

956
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 6: next good pace. It's been very, very disappointing, and that

957
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 6: very little has popped outside of one part of a

958
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 6: couple of games, you know, four through six of the season.

959
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what, Tony, you really just put

960
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 4: me on the couch there. So now that I'm you know,

961
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 4: gonna go through my therapy session, what other things should

962
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: I'd be worried about with this PACER's team because that's

963
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: one of them. But the shooting is the other. I know,

964
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: I hopped on locked on Pacers as you last. Not

965
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: shooting is historically bad, not just for the Pacers but

966
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: for like anybody in the NBA. So I know you've

967
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 4: kind of gone on a rabbit hole about this. Can

968
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 4: you give some context what we're seeing from the others

969
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: outside of Pascal Siakam.

970
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, he's had some you know, eight or nineteen

971
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 6: kind of nights, and it's expected from him with the

972
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 6: coverage as he's seeing.

973
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: But I'll give a pass on that because of the coverage.

974
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so bizarre, like they can't make anything. And

975
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 6: I understand like last year with Haliburn on the floor,

976
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 6: I think they had fifty seven percent effect field goal

977
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 6: percentage of like fifty four fifty three with him on

978
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: the bench and in games he just didn't play at all,

979
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 6: it was like fifty one. Okay, that sounds cool. They

980
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 6: can't even get to fifty one, not even close, so

981
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 6: like in the mid forties this season, like a six

982
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 6: percent drop. Is not just that Tyres Haliburn isn't playing right,

983
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 6: The available players are missing way more than they did

984
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 6: last year, even in somewhat similar situations that it's kind

985
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 6: of just like a wonder I think, even to them

986
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 6: in some ways, how this is happening, Like where Carlisle said, oh,

987
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 6: I can't remember what game this was before it might

988
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 6: have been Milwaukee, like he expected that a good or

989
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 6: great shot making night was coming just because of how

990
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 6: bad the Pacers' percentages were.

991
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 7: And that was half their season ago, and it still

992
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 7: hasn't happened, right.

993
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 6: They still have not had that game, and their percentages

994
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 6: continue to just look completely dreadful. And they have you know,

995
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 6: Andrew Emhard can make shots, and Tiakam canon, Aaron Smith

996
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 6: is scoring a bunch but is missing a lot, you know,

997
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 6: his percentages are down, like guys that have made shots before,

998
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 6: even with alburn out are not. And the guys who

999
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 6: aren't or whose context is not as important, right, they're

1000
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 6: not making shots here, And it's they can't win that way.

1001
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 6: Like you look at the end of the game and

1002
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, they just lost by fifteen again, and

1003
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 6: I didn't really see why the games got away from them.

1004
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 6: And then I look them, like, oh, they shot thirty

1005
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 6: six percent. Of course they lost, Like they already have

1006
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 6: more games this year shooting below thirty eight percent in

1007
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 6: all of last season, which was eighty two games. Like

1008
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 6: they just can't make anything. Even players that did make

1009
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 6: shots last year with Haliburton out or with other guys out,

1010
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 6: and so some of their season has just been that.

1011
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 6: But at some point, when it's this contagious, you wonder

1012
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 6: how much of a mental blockade it is for everybody,

1013
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 6: not even just the guys in a slump, like even

1014
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 6: guys who are shooting normal percentages, Like you have to

1015
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 6: trust your teammates to make shots, Like are you actively

1016
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 6: not passing to somebody because you don't trust them anymore?

1017
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 6: Are they not shooting shots that they normally would because

1018
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: they feel like they're in a slump? And then if

1019
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 6: if that grows out to everybody, it just kind of

1020
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 6: gooks up everything. And I don't know how you get

1021
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 6: rid of that, Like maybe you just have a game

1022
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 6: where shots go in but they can't make anything. And

1023
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 6: it was fine when their defense was okay, and now

1024
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 6: their defense too, So it's just been a mess.

1025
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: As James said, Locked on Pacers, where you can find

1026
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: Tony Eastwark James with him on the Overnight podcast. You

1027
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: can check that out. Hopefully a ton of one coming

1028
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: up later today. Tony East your favorite Kesha song?

1029
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 7: Oh, good question.

1030
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 6: TikTok's the really popular one that got played on my

1031
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: leg my coming right?

1032
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Yes, uh huh, yes, uh we are who we are?

1033
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Mark Dighton could be a good one. Are Yeah, yeah,

1034
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: uh huh right did you know that?

1035
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 6: Did you know she actually took the dollar sign out

1036
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 6: of her name?

1037
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: WHOA, this is blasphemy?

1038
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: Is that real?

1039
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 6: So one, I think it happened like a long time ago.

1040
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 6: But two I found out because somebody tweeted a joke

1041
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 6: that was like, Kesha sent the dollar sign out of

1042
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 6: her name, that's a recession indicator, and that made me

1043
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 6: laugh and I looked it up.

1044
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 7: I looked it up and lo and behold true she did.

1045
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: So going on here with like the person who controlled

1046
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: her music, we could probably go for about five hours

1047
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: honestly on Kasha here. Yeah, boy, great, great, great sign

1048
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: shows you how big of a fan I am. Gosh,

1049
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Now now I'm deep in the tabloids here.

1050
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 7: Her popularity was when we were all much younger.

1051
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: Certainly, well, I would argue it still should be today.

1052
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: East with the spide.

1053
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 7: Page no no dollar sign on the Spotify page.

1054
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: Boy, a great recession joke that there's no surprise that

1055
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: you were laughing at that. Tony East with us here

1056
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: on the paylist lickers hotline. James brought this up earlier.

1057
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: We could see Benedict Matherin back tonight, and I thought

1058
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: it was a good point. Like all off season long,

1059
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers have talked about Matherin in this light of

1060
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, making quick decisions and sharing the basketball, et cetera,

1061
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: et cetera. Giving their state Tony. They need game seven Matherin.

1062
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: They need ballhog Matherin.

1063
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 7: Right, Yes, so badly.

1064
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 5: Like we can talk about shooting woes.

1065
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 7: That dude.

1066
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 6: It does not matter who's on the floor with him,

1067
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 6: or what the context of the defense is or how

1068
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 6: bad the team of shooting.

1069
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 7: That dude can score.

1070
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 6: You can get buckets, he can get to the top.

1071
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: He can make the offense with a lot better, I

1072
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 6: mean only in this season. Like, look, they got to

1073
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: double overtime against Okac, but.

1074
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 7: I would not say they like.

1075
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 6: Played particularly well in that game. And he had thirty

1076
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 6: bajillion points. I can't remember what his final total was.

1077
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 6: He would have more if he didn't fall out of

1078
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 6: that game. And then I was in Mvis when they

1079
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 6: were terrible, and they were down fifteen or twenty in

1080
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 6: the first half, and they cut it all the way

1081
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 6: to three in the third quarter because just Ben Matheren

1082
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 6: could score, right, And he had twenty whatever that night

1083
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Speaker 6: before a injury that he has not played.

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Speaker 7: Since that game, so that was only two games.

1085
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Speaker 6: But he looked awesome, right, like he was dotting threes,

1086
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: drawn fouls, getting to the cup, doing all the stuff

1087
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 6: that like you know, Siaka can do it too, but

1088
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 6: basically only Ben Matheren can do some other stuff on

1089
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 6: this team at the guard spot. And yeah, on this team,

1090
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 6: like especially this version of this team. Yeah, the fifth

1091
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 6: stuff is going to be important, Like there will be

1092
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 6: a time this season when that becomes the focus for

1093
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 6: Ben Matheren. But like they got it, I mean just for.

1094
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Speaker 7: Vibes for al and like, but internal belief.

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Speaker 6: They got to win some games and Ben Matherin go

1096
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 6: be Ben Matheren man, like get to the cup, crack

1097
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 6: a defense, make them have to row more. Like he

1098
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 6: can do that even if he's not even even if evenish.

1099
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Speaker 7: To assist, like that could help everybody else.

1100
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Speaker 6: Just by drawing a bunch of attention. You know, he

1101
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Speaker 6: can do that. He did it in Detroit last year

1102
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Speaker 6: when he came back from injury. So I do think

1103
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 6: that's gonna be really important and it's just someone else

1104
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 6: other the other teams defenders have to you know, think

1105
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 6: about pay attention to put a put a key defender

1106
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 6: on them, right, Like that's Detroit is a tough team

1107
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 6: top to bottom, Like they have to put a good

1108
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 6: defender on bet Matheren instead of you know whoever, Jeremiah

1109
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: Robinson orla Jared Walker. So that's a big shift for

1110
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 6: what they're able to do in just putting people in

1111
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 6: the right seat on the bus and their rotation. And

1112
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 6: it's good for Matherin to have more chances to develop

1113
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 6: because this season, Like that's the other part that's been

1114
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 6: so frustrating in the losses is all the questions we

1115
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 6: had about guys like Matherin and you know, Nemhard playing

1116
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 6: new roles and other guys developing.

1117
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 7: Those haven't even happened because they can't.

1118
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 6: They're all hurt or they're all playing a role that'll

1119
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 6: be different than when the Pacers are good again, either

1120
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Speaker 6: later this year or next season.

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Speaker 7: Whatever that is.

1122
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 6: So having Matherin back leashed if he plays tonight, you know,

1123
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Speaker 6: puts him in themhard together and great. They're both playing

1124
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Speaker 6: a role that they can learn something about the Pacers

1125
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 6: from and like they're.

1126
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Speaker 7: Starting fives closer to help.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's all helpful for a million reasons, But

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Speaker 6: is it gonna be enough to whin Now?

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Speaker 7: We'll see tonight, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: The last one for me. Tony and again, you can

1131
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 4: check out his work at the new Circle City Spin

1132
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: endeavor that he's imparting on. But Tony, how early is

1133
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: too early to fire up tankathon dot com. I've been

1134
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 4: on that, brother, I've been looking, I've been scouting, looked

1135
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: at agent the bands over the weekend for BYU and

1136
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 4: gets to Yukon, and I was thinking, hmm, he would

1137
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 4: not look bad in blue and gold.

1138
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Speaker 6: Playing on an NBA cord too right, the perfect audition.

1139
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Speaker 7: Damn yes, I will not do it. I will not

1140
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Speaker 7: stop anybody for doing it. I mean one year, one twelve,

1141
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Speaker 7: like be for real, like the playoffs are.

1142
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Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong, they turned around their season dramatically

1143
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 6: last year from ten to fifteen, but like one to

1144
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 6: twelve is already a very challenging situation to turn around from,

1145
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 6: so I do not begrudge anybody for doing so. On

1146
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 6: the top of this draft class looks sensational. Darren Peterson

1147
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 6: looks awesome, Camboozer looks awesome. The Bandson looks awesome. Even

1148
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 6: some of the guys right behind them look really good.

1149
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Speaker 6: I personally will probably not dive into any college players

1150
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Speaker 6: until the season is over, because then I know every

1151
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 6: single thing to know about the Pacers and what their

1152
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 6: needs could be.

1153
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 7: But I do understand why it's time. I mean, look,

1154
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 7: they're one of two teams with only one win like that.

1155
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 7: That's the group they're in.

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Speaker 6: It's them and the Wizards, and the Wizards are having

1157
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Speaker 6: players only meetings. So if you want to do it,

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Speaker 6: I do not begrudge anybody at this point this season,

1159
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Speaker 6: I think for honestly, realistically, I answer though, remember last

1160
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 6: year they turned their season around at the NBA Cup break.

1161
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Speaker 6: If they still have a terrible record right then, I

1162
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Speaker 6: think many people will be doing what you already did.

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Speaker 1: About a month from now. By the way, on that

1164
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: so again, Bendig mathernback sounds like the Aarony Smith absence

1165
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: will be right around a month or so, so continue

1166
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Speaker 1: to evaluate what has been just a horrific start for

1167
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Speaker 1: the Pacers health wise and product wise. He is Tony East.

1168
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: He fills us in on all of the back news

1169
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Speaker 1: tabloids of Kesha, and he's with us here on the

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Speaker 1: payloff stickers hotline mister East, thank you, sir, you got it.

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Speaker 7: Take care, guys,