WEBVTT - Patreon Voted: Dead Presidents (30th Anniversary)

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, everybody, and welcome to the France per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Kenny, and stowing me on the show

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<v Speaker 1>is Rod, Spike and Mike Not that much, man, We

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<v Speaker 1>are here to talk about dead presidents. Yeah, dead presidents.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thirtieth anniversary of this movie. It's crazy voted

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<v Speaker 1>by patrons, so thank you guys for that. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because I cannot tell you the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I have watched this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>When was the last time you guys watched this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe early two thousands, possibly.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Yeah, like we'll Rod said to you, it's been

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<v Speaker 4>at least fifteen because when did it release?

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<v Speaker 3>Five?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's been twenty years. I've seen it since I've

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<v Speaker 5>been here, So that's what I'm saying. It had to

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<v Speaker 5>be like early two thousand. I'm not even I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>saying like two to oh one type ship?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that? Why? Why? What?

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<v Speaker 3>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Is because I think, Okay, so I guess overall, like

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<v Speaker 1>it is viewed as a great like black movie right.

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<v Speaker 2>By black folks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, but I look back, man, reviews were bad

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<v Speaker 5>on this really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like forty seven rings like.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixty I thought I thought this movie and I thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was considered like what we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>Hood last.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, And IMDb had a stream though like at

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<v Speaker 5>a six something or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I didn't, I didn't know that. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know this movie was wasn't wasn't really that.

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<v Speaker 4>Reviewed what A movies like Boys in the Hood, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's high like New Jack City and.

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<v Speaker 2>That president is.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't put it in that in that lineup right

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<v Speaker 1>class would it wouldn't? I would with like Society Boys

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hood, it's probably it's not topping though.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't be on the list. No, I don't do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that used to be like highly regarded in our.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it has iconic moments, but I don't like it

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<v Speaker 5>like how I like the Boys in the Hood or

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<v Speaker 5>a mens Society.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the same for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And this movie is by the way, both for seven

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<v Speaker 3>point five and higher. Okay, so those movies are definitely

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<v Speaker 3>this was under This was like, it's a great movie,

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<v Speaker 3>but it ain't like Boys And.

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<v Speaker 4>I do remember as the last time I watched it,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, it's kind of boring, but this time

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed it a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, I don't remember what are we

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<v Speaker 2>talking about? The movie?

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of names. I couldn't think I wouldn't we

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<v Speaker 3>talking about that president.

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<v Speaker 1>It took an hour to kind of set everything up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought there was a good setup there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I liked him, like I didn't remember liking I remember

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<v Speaker 4>liking the movie the first time I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I know I watched it. You know it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of boring, But this time I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like it was a dope setup like that,

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<v Speaker 4>like the relationship with him and the girl, like him

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<v Speaker 4>going to the army and them not being like.

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<v Speaker 2>All of them, all of this work.

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<v Speaker 1>It hits me, Yeah, correct me ifrom wrong because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's been thirty years. But when this movie was released,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a movie that people were talking in our community.

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<v Speaker 2>Performance like all of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was good, but he was gread, not pooky,

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<v Speaker 4>but underrated bo kin wood by smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I some fries that like, it's not one

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<v Speaker 1>that people would at least I would pick up and

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<v Speaker 1>one to rewatch.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not nothing, there's no conclusion in anything. It just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's the part I always the court House,

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<v Speaker 5>like I'm like, man like it. Even even when I

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<v Speaker 5>was younger, I just never liked that. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 5>the war part either, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the war part the best part of the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I don't know, It's like I started feeling like,

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<v Speaker 5>like what movie is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what movie am I watching? So it feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a like a breakup to me. It's like is this

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<v Speaker 2>a war movie? Is this? Is this? Is this a

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<v Speaker 2>bank heist? Is it a is it a what? Like that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I've always had, the issue black people trying

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<v Speaker 3>to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a coming of age.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, for sure that's what ultimately

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<v Speaker 5>is what Mike just said. But but yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 5>the break up just in't I didn't always feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't always feel the break in it like that.

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<v Speaker 2>With the war stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that the war stuff because it really did

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<v Speaker 3>a good job of explaining why they're fucked up when

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<v Speaker 3>they came home. And then it really nails home the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing with the government just not taking care of

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, and the fact that there wasn't even really

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<v Speaker 3>a reason for him.

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<v Speaker 1>To go well, so it wasn't because Isaiah Washington was

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<v Speaker 1>his brother.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot his name, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He was kind of like the smarty one or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna go. And Anthony we saw early on

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<v Speaker 1>like he was running numbers and stuff with Kirby who's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of served as a mentor with him and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But jobs were scarred.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did look up, like just for historical contexts

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<v Speaker 1>about nineteen sixty eight, and they were just saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for black men like Curtis, Yeah, there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a reason for him to really go, but he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a lot of options, you know, so they

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<v Speaker 1>said higher education was off the financially outreach, which is

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<v Speaker 1>crazy how.

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<v Speaker 2>Much time changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Skilled labor jobs were vanishing or inaccessible due to discrimination,

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<v Speaker 1>and military service was the way out for black people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's what he did and went.

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<v Speaker 4>Because did Dizzel character do that too? You know when

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<v Speaker 4>we watched what's the movie we just watched when he'd

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<v Speaker 4>like in the army as well? Dizzel character was it

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<v Speaker 4>we just watched with Denzel Lewis though, the whole movie

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<v Speaker 4>that we just did. What were you asked, what's the question?

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<v Speaker 4>Did he go to the army two? For similar reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's how he got his house in California.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about the Devil and Blue Death.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think the scenario from you here, I mean ship, I

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<v Speaker 1>know a kid right now that's probably gonna end up

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<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing, you know, because it's like, well

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<v Speaker 1>what else I got you?

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<v Speaker 2>And he didn't want to go to school.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen to Furious Man, But you said something I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think everybody else heard was yeah, they were drafting around

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<v Speaker 5>at Vietnam time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and so because we you know, in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of introduced all the guys and skip Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker's character was kind of joking with Jose even though

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<v Speaker 1>he called him Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the name, joseh Joe? He probably just called him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like somebody Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Yeah, he was kind of joking was going to

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<v Speaker 1>get drafted because they were still in school or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So they spent like first twenty some minutes kind of

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<v Speaker 1>introduced us to all of them, the relationship between them

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. And uh, and we spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time with with Anthony. You know, yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a milk person, right, he was dropping milk off.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw the relationship with that the interest that Delilah

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Juanita, you know, both were coming.

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<v Speaker 2>To the damn door.

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<v Speaker 1>M you know, you know, and uh we saw him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Terrence Howard was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember his name.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember his name either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't either. But he was like, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Just say Terrence Howard because he plays the same Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you gonna play me in pool?

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<v Speaker 6>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're playing pool. He's like, yeah, I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>two dollars. You can take your money bit Jim Pool,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then he was like hey man, you

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<v Speaker 1>know he was real shy reserve. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of bet me too. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he did, did he? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that. I thought that bet was with Kirby.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't bet.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the bet was automatically.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cowboy was his name, Cowboy.

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<v Speaker 3>The bet was with both of them, so it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a four dollar bet. Then I think the rules

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<v Speaker 2>of the pool is if we're playing, we bet.

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<v Speaker 3>You noticed automatically. Yeah, Curtis added on to the bet

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<v Speaker 3>because he was like, I bet you two dollars, he

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<v Speaker 3>can beat.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I actually whip up

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<v Speaker 2>on all the cats too, and I was not not

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<v Speaker 2>for money, but just bragging.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, What did you guys think about Kirby, like overall

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<v Speaker 1>his influence on him just in general.

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<v Speaker 5>I like it, you know, I like to I thought

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<v Speaker 5>he was like a five new pigs, like he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>want him to be getting too much trouble, but just

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<v Speaker 5>showing the ropes type thing.

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<v Speaker 4>M hmm yeah, people like it were around. I was

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<v Speaker 4>boring up character a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good actor too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he is. He old. I forget his name too,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do like him though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Keith David Yeah yeah. Another another good scene,

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<v Speaker 1>that scene we remember, I think we talked about was

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<v Speaker 1>when he went to.

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<v Speaker 3>Money put his legs wrong legs, motherfucker ship. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't he laid down that woman. I was like, god, man.

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<v Speaker 2>That they got my heart husband. Yeah, God, he took

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<v Speaker 2>his fight. He fell on the ground and rolled over

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<v Speaker 2>to the pistol.

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<v Speaker 3>Put the pistol.

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<v Speaker 2>Hald my goddamn money.

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<v Speaker 3>I was dying to get that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>That's very similar to that ship that that that the

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<v Speaker 5>video that was fluming around.

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<v Speaker 2>The handicapped dude that was fighting, remember, had no legs fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>I said that to the group it was on the

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<v Speaker 2>install It's.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of similar to that you ask by somebody like

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<v Speaker 5>that beat with the legs, but they're strong.

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<v Speaker 2>It don't matter, dog like, No, it don't matter. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't matter. Bro, you can't get your ass. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>get your ass bea by somebody. They got no legs, kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't no way, no way, I'm not coming back outside.

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<v Speaker 3>How did he kicked?

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<v Speaker 2>As because the dude on that video didn't have no

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<v Speaker 2>like did you get it kick? Yeah, the dude on

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<v Speaker 2>the video didn't have no legs. I would imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>that little motherfucker grab you, though, it'd be.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know how tall he really is, true, how

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<v Speaker 5>tall he? He said, a little mother fucker.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Half he's just number number twist on right.

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<v Speaker 2>Good representation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you guys, you guys, going back to Anthony's

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<v Speaker 1>decision to go to the military, do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>his brother's success played a role in it?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I feel like I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was because I thought he had the

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to go to college, he just didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't he.

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<v Speaker 5>Tired of school, he said, he was tired at school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>get a job.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did he go to the military. What was he

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<v Speaker 3>gonna work it anywhere? I mean it never really, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I just didn't get that part. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>I missed something, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Understand speaking of terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that we know how good of an actor Isaiah

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<v Speaker 4>what's his name, Isaiah Washington? Very underutilized in this film.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it would have been for him

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<v Speaker 4>to do. But now that we know how good of

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<v Speaker 4>an actor he is, I'm sure that could have been something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, you nothing like.

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<v Speaker 2>He do? Look like random?

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<v Speaker 3>They got the same air. Yeah, they look it up

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<v Speaker 3>and his lips weren't chopped.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the only thing they gave me.

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<v Speaker 3>And he always got that stuff right. Yeah, doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>that's like someone gonna get you some.

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<v Speaker 2>Industrial like you always sucking up.

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<v Speaker 3>He walked up whatever he was in point of justice.

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<v Speaker 4>But Isaiah Washington got washed. I thought he was he

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<v Speaker 4>one he wanted little blacksmister Random, him and Mark. He

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<v Speaker 4>don't like you, said he tried to right a weird

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<v Speaker 4>ass beef. Markin Hill was making a documentary or something,

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<v Speaker 4>and he said he was gonna help him with it,

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<v Speaker 4>and he tried to get him.

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<v Speaker 2>The signs of paperwork that was predatory. Damn yeah, Washington. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and then like he told Monique about it, and

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<v Speaker 4>Monique went back and told him, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They been having beef very since.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why you don't be That's what he said. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't told the Monique. Now that was the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>he said. They still like seemed like a snitch.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, but yeah, I Washton got kicked off for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, just was it Grays Anatomy.

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<v Speaker 2>He messed up that money. Bro still would have been

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<v Speaker 2>getting a check for I'm not working on this goddamn

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<v Speaker 2>Gaze anatomy. Fuck y'all. But yeah, he wasn't. He was in.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't poetic just and p Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't so anyway, Jose saying p val you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't watched that. Oh, pe Valley, that seems like

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<v Speaker 3>some ship you would love. What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>You probably don't like.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably don't like the other the the main guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably what it is, but I that ain't. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't don't heard all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Jose was after and it blamed Skill for it. He

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<v Speaker 1>said he jinxed them. They had a whole conversation, uh

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<v Speaker 1>with Janita and Anthony had the old conversation, went to

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<v Speaker 1>a party whose and and Anthony hooked up with the girls. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had old conversation about like going to war

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for so you really got a chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>like the real world consequences, real life consequences of just

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<v Speaker 1>that time period, just war in general, you know, which

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they did a good job of capturing that

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<v Speaker 1>because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know why. He slept over them. Must have been good, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>because he slept over night.

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<v Speaker 4>He couldn't leave, He couldn't get out of it. Bro

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<v Speaker 4>had the biggest crush on her.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they went they went at it twice and then

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<v Speaker 1>remember in the morning it was like six thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>Stood like like the month time lapse that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they were going at it, and then it was a

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<v Speaker 5>time let like through the night.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they first started and then they they.

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<v Speaker 4>It was supposed to just it's supposed to just be

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<v Speaker 4>one time. I think, to where's point they alluded to?

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<v Speaker 4>They kept Yeah, they kept sucking. I thought too, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just all I know is you thought it was one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, they did it twice because he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, we're gonna go again. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 1>that because it was still nighttime. So they did it

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<v Speaker 1>four five times.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's what turned third in the fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what That's what I got.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so deep sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like that. You know, he was crying and

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<v Speaker 2>you sold like the emotional impact, you know of like

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<v Speaker 2>what need us? And I wait for you and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, what did you guys think about Chris Tucker

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<v Speaker 1>as comedic relief?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was. He was great, man. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember him being as good.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't need he did it really because this before

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<v Speaker 5>after Friday, After Friday, after.

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<v Speaker 3>He was he was playing Smokey he was, which Smokey

0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.040
<v Speaker 3>was just him in real life. But no, he's actually

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<v Speaker 3>a good actor.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised Friday came out in.

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<v Speaker 1>Five after there was a guy saw because I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up to see if some of his stuff was improvised,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course it was like you said earlier, they

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<v Speaker 1>gave him reference point.

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<v Speaker 2>He just kind of went with it. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell like he and the party talking about that ship

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<v Speaker 2>was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>My uncle was a pip. He's out in the fields

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<v Speaker 3>but just picked cotton fum that.

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<v Speaker 2>He said about always having the holes like, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was good man.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't think of what it was he said, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's like old always.

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<v Speaker 3>But when he when he when it came time to

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<v Speaker 3>actually play serious, he was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's when we went to the war, uh

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<v Speaker 1>part of it because.

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<v Speaker 2>He was going to Hunter College and Heed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, he flunked out of Hunter College, so he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up joining the recontent they were having that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony and Skipp had that conversation because we didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>he was there, could show everybody's cleon du get other

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<v Speaker 1>people and then that's you know, we see Skip like

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<v Speaker 1>what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell, why is he doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>And then they did the whole warship and then we

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<v Speaker 1>found out that that's why he was there.

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<v Speaker 4>So I love how he was to get and then

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<v Speaker 4>they showed his personality change post war and then on

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<v Speaker 4>drugs like it was the good acting.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of it, Like he did a really good job

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah, how did you guys, What did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys think about how they kind of portrayed like the

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<v Speaker 1>war the Hughes brothers.

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<v Speaker 5>So so that's that again. I know I was the

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<v Speaker 5>one that said that this. So it wasn't that I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't like it. I just felt like this part ran

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<v Speaker 5>a little too long for me, Like just just a

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<v Speaker 5>little too long for me. I would have liked not

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<v Speaker 5>not necessarily a montage, maybe more of a montage mixed

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<v Speaker 5>with some of the important parts, but all of the

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<v Speaker 5>like the intestines and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like, I think, blow all of this ride

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to show them being there living, even

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<v Speaker 1>something that's small as buzzed.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I already got that context when I when

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<v Speaker 5>I when I think of war in nineteen ninety five

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<v Speaker 5>though right, well, weren't not in nineteen ninety because there

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<v Speaker 5>weren't that many movies like this, especially that were this brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have I mean, you have Platoon. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're that came out. You had war movies, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have to presumed you had a few good men,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's like my idea of war.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's already that the intention.

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<v Speaker 3>People watching those glory black people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are watching on the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, but I already had that idea that they

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<v Speaker 5>over there killing and all that, Like I already have

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<v Speaker 5>that and they going through post traumatic uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Stress stress. I really think this stress or to understand

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<v Speaker 2>I trying to think of.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you really need just to understand and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you need to spend time with them to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>The back end part of the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, it felt like a different movie than me. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's the part I've always had issue with. It just

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 5>felt like a different movie. It's like that, it just

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<v Speaker 5>felt like a different move.

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<v Speaker 4>I think to me that was part of the brilliance

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<v Speaker 4>of it because it took us out of their normal

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:15.200
<v Speaker 4>world and threw them in war and that's what Yeah,

0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 4>and then we go back and then we show how

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<v Speaker 4>it affects everything from the people they love you to

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<v Speaker 4>you to like drug addiction. I think it was really

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<v Speaker 4>good because that used to irritate me at first, but

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<v Speaker 4>watching it this time made me appreciate it because they

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<v Speaker 4>I ain't gonna say they was living like a perfect life,

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<v Speaker 4>but they had they were in the community, like he

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<v Speaker 4>was running numbers, he was around people, he had the

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<v Speaker 4>girl that he loved, and then you just get plucked

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<v Speaker 4>out of it and threw into a white man's war.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I just felt like it ran a little too long

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<v Speaker 5>for me, Like yeah, yeah, it just it just felt

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<v Speaker 5>like a different movie. But we saw Anthony, we saw

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:50.440
<v Speaker 5>his experience, we saw him go through a lot, and

0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 5>only what he went through personally, but witness and others.

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<v Speaker 2>Cleon was a preacher's son, be headed a person and carriage.

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<v Speaker 3>That that seems like a different movie than me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was supposed to the exactly because because

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<v Speaker 3>even as an audience, we had to readjust when they

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.879
<v Speaker 3>went back just like they had And I just didn't

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 3>like that for me a YouTube video you watched me, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I just was that was good.

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<v Speaker 4>I was surprised, like I didn't remember liking it this

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<v Speaker 4>much like I watched it this time, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, Damn, this was really And we.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to kill one of his fellow soldiers, yes, because

0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:26.280
<v Speaker 3>he was begging to die.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who that was? Right? Who did Embrigio? Oh?

0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Michael Imperioli from Sopranos, Christopher Christal Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Dying right, just like that too.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you see Cleon, Cleon became a completely different person.

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 2>That was the only way for him to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>Skip. We see our Skip ended up on drugs because

0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that was his way of coping.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he had hr V that was flying Agent orange. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Agent Orange. Wait HIV winning.

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't catch you either, know about this.

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Chris Tucker is a character. He said. I caught him

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<v Speaker 2>over there.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, he was talking about he was talking about

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 5>like his blood cells are different Agent Orange.

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I only know because I looked it up when I

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>was preparing for the show, and they said it was

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<v Speaker 1>a chemical substance.

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Agent orange is what he had.

0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Never I just didn't think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is.

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like a damn, I'll be quiet. Yeah, I

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:40.760
<v Speaker 3>know how you knew. It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was way too close to Agent Orange, not HIV.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, okay, I don't even HV because he was

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.439
<v Speaker 5>he said he was sucking people and all.

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.879
<v Speaker 2>That, and well that's the them in the boom or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see that making sense why you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but but yeah, only that's at least that's what

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<v Speaker 1>what I what I read is they said that he

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<v Speaker 1>had and that was a kind of thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, this chemical warfare that was going on. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>like you two, that it was PTSD, Anthony had PTSD,

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Skip had a different issue, which was the agent orange stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>They made that clear then, because they they didn't. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't ever think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was agent I didn't either, and they never said anything.

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I would have thought HIV too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, h whatever popped in my head at all.

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<v Speaker 2>They said they didn't know what it was. And this

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 2>is like what seventies or something like that.

0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like they came back in seventy three,

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 1>seventy two.

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:40.919
<v Speaker 3>And why only did he get it because agent orange

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 3>that it was usually everybody around you.

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty sure other people got it. But and

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't look up to see where they got there from.

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Why they even how they even know that?

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Because initially I wrote down when he said, yeah, I

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>got some shit, I don't even know what it was.

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.879
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was talking about mentally PTSD, And I

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 1>looked up when was PTSD officially dot It was nineteen

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it was around the eighties, nineteen eighties, so so I

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, then that would make sense for them

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to not be able to classify of you know, but

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>then they say agent Ona Like okay.

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 2>But I just didn't bothered.

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Digging into it because the movie didn't really spend a

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of time with it.

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 2>It was just he just said it.

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.719
<v Speaker 3>This says that he was talking about getting fucked up

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 3>on drugs. M This says that the disease he was

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 3>talking about was a heroin addiction.

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 2>But this is also yeah, I mean, we know he

0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 2>had a heroin addiction, but he was talking about something else.

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.919
<v Speaker 2>It seemed like he was very clear about like it was.

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.200
<v Speaker 3>But he could he could have started doing heroin over there,

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Well he was doing drugs, Well, think about it. In

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 3>the hood, dudes weren't doing heroin. So maybe he got

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 3>hooked on heroin while he was in the.

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But I think it was already established that he was

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a drug addict. And then it seemed like he was

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>speaking about something something separately. Maybe, but I again, they

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of said it and moved on. Yeah,

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>the one thing we saw over and over again was

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that he was just on drugs. I mean the first

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 1>time we seen when we were back with him, is

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that he just sending them shaking and shit Wikipedia, I

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>think he had agent Warrens on there, but you know

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 1>you can have you know, you know. But anyway, but

0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I think with the war scene, it was just it

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>was a lot that happened. We saw a dude bump

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>explode basically blow up. We saw Skip just shell shot

0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like he couldn't even fucking move.

0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.919
<v Speaker 5>Look, it was done very well, like this Warship was

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 5>done very well. Like I said, it just felt like

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 5>a whole nother movie. It was done that well to me,

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 5>like the whole movie could have been about that.

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 3>It felt like two different movies.

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and kind of Spike saying like even his mom

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 1>where Anthony was talking, where he had to detach from everything,

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.879
<v Speaker 1>like even he wouldn't even look at his daughter because

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>he was like the only way he's the only way

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been able to survive here in.

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Twenty six months.

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It's just like nothing ever exists and and yeah, been

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:05.479
<v Speaker 1>in the bush. But but yeah, but anyway, was there

0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>was there anything during the war scene that stood out

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to you guys, any memorable moments.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>The head Dave Chapelle not want to put the head away.

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 2>He was right though that he did bring him looks

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 2>unless he got rid of it.

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 3>And he got rid of it. That motherfucker got blown up

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 3>and then once his face got shot.

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I bet that's stunk, like holy hell. Yeah yeah yeah.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 3>He was one of my favorite characters.

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 5>Man, I like to it is he always inderrated. I

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 5>think be kean wood Mine isn't underrated.

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he was shooting dead bro and then

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>he took the Dugans I think the sergeant to heart.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>He was like, yeah, just taking the supernirs, like he

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 1>walked through to somebody, just shot somebody.

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 2>B he was yeah, yeah, wow yeah in his book

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.120
<v Speaker 2>bag and just this dude is crazy.

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah that was that was That was That was

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:05.360
<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty intense.

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 2>And then that was the black Man Go Home propaganda

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>fly that.

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 3>Was going on time, but that was like a real thing.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 4>And drop them in the battlefield yea, they that in

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 4>that war.

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but you just.

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Saw like the things that they had to do to survive,

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like their loss of innocence because I remember these are kids,

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're sort of moral decay with cleon and

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>just their coping mechanisms that when we come back home

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy three. Also in nineteen seventy one, Marvin

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Gay wrote What's going on? That's playing in some of

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the songs too, So they come back two years later.

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 2>This school about this was great.

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 5>That's one of my most memorable things about that Presidents

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 5>is the soundtrack.

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 4>Yep, I remember I found some old songs, like my

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 4>first time watching.

0:26:52.760 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>We People who Are Darkening Blue Curtis Mayfield that one. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>but we get back in nineteen seventy three. Man, you know, hey,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess Cleon had already made back. That also took

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>photos and stuff and Cleon puts it, I guess on

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>his face or whatever. But they come back home skips

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>an addict Jose's of Power Maniac.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>He blew up his hand? Uh what was up that? Did?

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>That only confuse me? It was okay, he blew up

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:26.399
<v Speaker 3>his hands. That was Was that supposed to be a

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 3>fake hand?

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to be but he was moving the

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 2>hell out of it.

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Was drink drink with it.

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was supposed to be a prosthetic.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 3>I was confused. Did he just burn the hand up

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 3>or was the hand supposed to be completely gone? And

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>that was face.

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 5>So it's like it's like it was two different things.

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Like at first it was fake, but then later it

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 5>like it was just burned up.

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Because he showed it to him, He's like, what it

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 2>looked looked fake?

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look later on when he was drinking a drink,

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 3>it's burned up. It just looked burned up. So that

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, no, hand was like one. But I

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 3>think that's Matt might be just a plot apply what's

0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 3>it called like whatever, like like if I'm a stake, Like, yeah,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 3>I think so. I think it started off as a

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 3>prosthetic and then later it.

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Just was hand.

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I think he forgot because remember the card.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>That it wasn't supposed to be in the car? Didn't

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>he set it on fire? I think he said one

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 2>of his fingers on fire, put yours out walked a

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty big mistake.

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I was confused by that too, but I

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>just kind of let it go because you know, but yeah,

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>because he had that gun at the.

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 5>End, like he had to shoot the ship.

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that.

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they probably started off as a crossteady.

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Hand and it's like later, well this ain't gonna work.

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 2>We need to make it a burn hend because he

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 2>even had to do the barn thing. He wouldn't you

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>can't do one hand?

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, and Cleon went went and became a preacher.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:29:00.479
<v Speaker 1>So anything notable about their post war transformations, uh, that

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>was yeah, that.

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Was just like, man, he is really doing a good

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 3>fucking jomb man. He went from like Talking Ship but

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 3>being like this playful guy to Talking Ship being this

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>borderline scary.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Guy, insane person. Yeah.

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 4>I love how like he deflated. He was when he

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 4>ran up on my high excited with hey mareen, and

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 4>then he he was like, oh man, it was just

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 4>he was genuine sadness from Rinz take care.

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 2>So I liked that a lot.

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And in four years Kirby was playing the cops.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>The cops you know, of course, you know, tried to

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>check him down more money.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>He just said fuck it.

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He said, I'm not gonna pay for the kids college twitch.

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>So you know, he just kind of was hanging around

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>because he thought he was gonna go back to it

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>because he can't find work.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>He's unemployed.

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>He can't find work, you know, and he's a war hero.

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>But them motherfuckers that don't care about it, like you know,

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>cowboy was just kind of mocking and making fun of

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>him and ship like that. Yeah, he Hey, Rod, did

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they use spight Lee sitting at the shot when he

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 1>was going to see Kirby for the first time.

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't even like it?

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 3>He was floating, Yeah, y'all biting bro.

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't quite spike Lye shot, but it was very yeah, okay, right, the.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Little dolly move.

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, you got that's his signature that he goes

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:28.959
<v Speaker 5>to Juana though, and she's running around with Cudding.

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Mike was Wasanita wrong? It was Anthony wrong to leave

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>when he saw that roach walking on the wall.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>No, I'd have left to the nasty ass. Eper, I'd

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 3>have fucking left. He got my kid up here as

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 3>a fucking roach walking around your nasty ass. I'm like

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 3>a worry about Cuddy right now?

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>What the.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I was disgusted.

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>And they had the sound effects of it.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, you know, it's been great about it.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Nasty as was that after he pulled up on him,

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 4>After Cutty pulled up on him though in the car.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because because she kept trying to introduce him

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to Cudding.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 3>None of that ship he did. What did you can

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 3>roll up on the lollipop though, and they zoomed in

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>on you like a lot.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 5>Of talk ship you could pulled up and gave his

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 5>girl to one of the dollars. Dude pressing, Yeah, like

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 5>press on.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was real, he was really so when she's hooking,

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't think she was.

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 5>I think he just you know, yeah, it was just Yeah,

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 5>he's a little little little daughter.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>And I'm mad too, Yeah, already to be mad. But

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>she hadn't heard from him.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a funk. You got my daughter around him.

0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Now you got a right back woman. Tell you she

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 3>prayed shot raise, you got my daughter.

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what. You don't know what?

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 3>You know that by Pimby And the second that kid

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>gets sixteen, what you think is gonna happen? He's gonna

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>try to engage.

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not in the long term plan. You gotta trying

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 2>to figure it out.

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Figure right how to get my daughter wake from upim.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>The right of this was good because you can see

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 2>it both ways.

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 3>You can you can see it both ways, especially when

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 3>what happened later.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, because he first man a lot of got

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the throw going, and she's basically telling me that he's

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>being brainwashing like that.

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I like her. I like, yeah, yeah, she was under

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>developed though, tell you that, you know that's funny. I

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>had a question about that she was under developed. I

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>think they could have did more with her.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought her inclusion was perfect.

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>No, the inclusion was great, but I just feel like

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 2>they could have did more.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we also saw cow Boy thought that this was

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the same old Anthony.

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Why Bro, Bro, these guys are freaking killers.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Bro didn't notice his mustache, that's the problem. Mother fucking

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 3>like that. Come back with a mustache like that.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 5>Don't say you don't trust the black man with just

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 5>a mustache. Terren Tower should have know heard.

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Mother got a mustache?

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Bro?

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, he whooped his ass?

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 5>He did.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>He don't play with me, Bro. This man was in

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 4>the Vietnam War. He kills people and came back. Yeah

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 4>he made it.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>If he made it back, you know, he a bad motherfucker.

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Didn't make it back light skin like that with.

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 3>A curly little privilege right with a pool stick?

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>God damn ye was that his baby? Was that Cuddy baby?

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 3>That was his baby?

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it was his baby, that was his baby.

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was because Cuddy. It kind of

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 3>implied that Cuddy came around later, but who knows, who knows?

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Who knows? I see why you would ask that.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 2>He was asking that, and I thought, I don't think.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's a fair question though the way Cuddy

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 3>was act, that's a fair question.

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Remember Yeah, five months later, she's pregnant.

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>She's on his ass about getting a better job, like

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>she is like laying into him.

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh you're talking about the second baby. Yeah, oh I

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 3>never even thought. I thought about the first baby, the first.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>The first one was here is the second one? Like,

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, was Cuddy still around?

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 4>He know, he was like, you lay with me? But

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 4>where you go when I ain't around? And she admitted

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 4>to us, well, I don't know if she was just

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 4>mad or what, but she was like yeah, I'm fucking.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because remember she was crazy. Yeah, he had the job.

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Then he got the guy to close on the shop.

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>He lost his job, which leads to how we got

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>to the whole seeing and stuff like that. Even prior

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to that, we saw Jose Joe cut Kirby and Anthony

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Ryan around in the car basically talking about this whole thing.

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.959
<v Speaker 2>Seems like a dumb play. It did listening to this.

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Dumb playing poorly executed like this was man everything they

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 4>got they deserve, Like, Bro, you.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Said, you don't know what they listened too.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just because you were in in the military don't

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 3>mean you're sucking some kind of tactical genius. And the

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 3>and the way he was laying it out, I'm like,

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>y'all listen to this fool.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Though they had to be tactical in his unit, it

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 2>seemed okay.

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 3>The second he said, look, we're gonna put white makeup

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 3>on our faces, I'm like, you know, we're not listening

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 3>to you. You're stupid. You're fucking stupid. We're gonna put

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 3>white makeup on our face and then run away. You

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 3>gonna who's not gonna see you with.

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>A white white face with a black.

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Man in the hood running around with white makeup on.

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>It, like moms. Not practical yet the idea was good,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>just the plan was done.

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 3>Just get a mask, get a mask, and have a

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 3>better plans, That's what I'm saying. Why they listening to him?

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 5>And its like it took a lot of time to

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 5>apply that look, Like.

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder what was the idea? I need to

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 2>read up on that, Like why did they go that

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 2>route with the.

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Military, because military does not like that though, not like that.

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 2>No, Yeah, but Anthony was going through it.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>He was having uh nightmares and ship waking up and

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I needed was so damn fucking dirty, bro.

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 3>What she wants some dig he wouldn't give it to her.

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 5>It's not that because I'm pregnant. Yeah, it's not that far.

0:36:57.520 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>It was when he lost his job and he came

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>home and he was he was he was walking.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 2>U GK. Bro, and he's walking He's walking up. See.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 2>He like to blame me, but he prolo gave him

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 2>the food.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>The food he walking home and Cuddy walking out the

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>damn building.

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god, Cuddy smacked the ship out.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.959
<v Speaker 5>Of that It was so cold it was I thought

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 5>he was really about to walk off.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 2>You can't trust he did.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Like with bride knuckle.

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he turned around and yeah with the ship.

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Cuddy was was was validated in that in

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 3>that punch.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>You think so he was. He was talking mass ship, bro.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 3>But Cuddy wasn't. At first. He was just like he man,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 3>if you ever need something, man.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 7>Was it was how he was saying that he was talking,

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 7>but damn b he was he was talked to another

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 7>grown man like that exactly.

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>He's talking to him like broken, not you're gonna take

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>care of me. You can't do it?

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 3>You got or not?

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 6>Bro?

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Hey, he's like little man. I know how proud he is.

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 3>He was trying to give him some game that was

0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 3>that was, yeah.

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Your girl in the last time.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 3>And then how that scene in the show that right,

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 3>like how she fucked you, How she sucked you? She

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 3>wasn't doing that before. Man, open them my fucking.

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Spell, bro, he did he heard that?

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 3>This man talked to me like that. I don't give

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 3>a take your ass back over there.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Hey.

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 4>The face paint was a not to Vietnam protests, particularly

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 4>black veterans protesting the one seventy one.

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Because fighting the white man's war. And I guess put

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>it on the white white damn.

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 3>That's that's why he got rated low because all the

0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 3>white people were like, this is white face and this

0:38:59.239 --> 0:38:59.720
<v Speaker 3>is racist.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but he was so good man power, That's

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the actor, the power. He was great. He

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 2>was a rock. Yeah, that's great. He was great. I'm sorry.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 4>I thought this was it represented characters delusionment and anger

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 4>at the system that had filled them, both veterans and

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 4>black men.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty cool. So after he got his as smacked

0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>down by a pimp down the stairs, all the meat

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>fell out by that was a problem. That wouldn't that. Yeah,

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't really checking that.

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna keep that in. He's like, I suht that.

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>That's why it was tearing, right, he was.

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 8>He was hurt for real, and then he gotta deal

0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 8>with dude talk about open. He was hurt for real,

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.400
<v Speaker 8>shooting all his decisions, shoot me and that was that was.

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 2>And after all that, you go in the house and

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.440
<v Speaker 2>this woman is man giving it to him.

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>She said, the only time I can hold you is

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>when you have no bro or however, she said that

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>she was so fucked up bro.

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 2>She was right.

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know because because PTSD people didn't understand it yet.

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 3>So all she knew is he wasn't having sex with her.

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't being like emotional with her. I can imagine

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 3>that she gets tiring.

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, true, but you broke, and you broke and came

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 2>on the job, she said. She said, you're gonna get

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 2>that money back.

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:56.919
<v Speaker 5>She was like, even if I wanted to give it back,

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 5>what do you mean you want if you want to right,

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 5>not giving that.

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Money back your girl give you back.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 3>First of all, you can't make your girl do ship.

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 3>But as I wouldn't even ask Ken, no.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he kind of need that money.

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 6>You need the money the baby didn't need, especially since

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 6>you spilled on them damn groceries falling down the fucking stairs.

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 6>You clearly need that money about give it back that?

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And so I so, I don't know if you

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 2>were talking about earlier.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she was just saying that to

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>piss him off about sleeping with But I couldn't tell Spice.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>She took a little step too far. That's what made

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 2>him snap. Yeah what did she say?

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember.

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So she said, uh, yeah, I'm fucking if that's what

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you want to hear. So I was, I don't know

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a woman be slick with that ship the.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Ship.

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, up, am fucking he's better than you with your fucking.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Ye.

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, she was cussing him out. Brother, man. Black women

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>cuts you out as different different that I don't know.

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just they go to the depths of hell like

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 2>they going to the depth.

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 4>You'll be thinking about it three four days like I

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 4>believe he said that, God damn, you won't funk me.

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>The only time I get the hold waking up and

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 2>coase bro that was that that was a good thing.

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 2>And then uh, but but she regretted that ship. He

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>went too far.

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 3>He talked her like three times.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 2>She wouldn't let it go, let it go, like, don't

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 2>you leave.

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 9>Anthony's acting in these were like power lefl this some

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 9>type ghosts right here.

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>You know the the contrast between the two because at

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that point then he goes he runs into the snake

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Turner Cadre and some guy gave him a flower, and

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>then he ran into Delia Delilah that the Yes, that

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>was a sister who was a black revolutionary.

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought the contrast.

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Between the two sisters interesting ones a black revolution and

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the others messing around with a pimp.

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, they meet and hook him. I thought

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>they were going to hook up.

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I didn't thought they the way I thought they did.

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's a missing scene somewhere. Yeah, I

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 3>thought they did. Seems like right, I feel like I

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 3>thought the impression was he hooked. They must have cut

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 3>that part out. Yeah that I'm saying. I think they

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 3>might have filmed that and just didn't put it in

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 3>there for whatever. They didn't want to make him seem

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 3>like an over bad guy.

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 5>I think that's probably because, Yeah, that's what it was

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 5>a little because she kissed him in when he came

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 5>back from from.

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 2>The war, like there you go, welcome back. Yeah that

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 2>was weird too, where you got surprised she joined the heist.

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that was well, she was in that made it

0:43:58.360 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 3>didn't really make any sense.

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again like underdeveloped for me, And that was what

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:04.959
<v Speaker 2>made me think that he hooked up with her because

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>she was like why would else would she be there?

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 5>That would and he was really hurt, not saying that

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 5>he shouldn't be hurt. Yeah, way he was holding and

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 5>the emotion that's saying I think something they deleted the same. Yeah,

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 5>that would make sense.

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>You guys talking about the execution of this whole thing,

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and then prior to that there planning the whole thing

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>out and Craby was like, we need another guy. I

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.040
<v Speaker 1>can't remember why, but they decided to go get Cleon.

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>That's when the rest of the viewers that.

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Is a preacher.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 4>They needed somebody that lies on the corner. Yeah, they

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.720
<v Speaker 4>needed they probably another person. Yeah, because he was a junkie,

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 4>but he ended up being the one that was saved

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 4>that he was going to do that.

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but you gotta talking about the heights and spike.

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 2>You said it was stupid. It looked it looked like.

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.919
<v Speaker 1>They had this ship planned out, bro, the guy under

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>under the Great or whatever that ship. Look, I thought

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>that was that was that was I thought it was stupid.

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 4>How they like blew the whole truck, this whole Yeah,

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 4>he putting on he's a power Yeah, so the plant

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 4>was just to blow off the dope.

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he's he's gone right right, you know from

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 4>the war. Okay, so you just and then you had

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 4>them to you had them to look out in the

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 4>d the cop messed it up.

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 2>And the cop messed up because he was a fellow.

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 2>They never planned for him. Yeah, they never planned for him.

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.879
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he could have killed that conversation. Though

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>he didn't do a good job.

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 3>How well you have two military guys, I could have

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>just ye my face, bro, my homebody can pick me up,

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:39.919
<v Speaker 3>don't worry.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he told him, he told the bad live.

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 1>I waited for the bus, right, but we found out

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the reason why he was being so helpful was because

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of what ro military.

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.959
<v Speaker 2>That's what they do. How did you know that marine

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>had a patch on Jack? So he just worked the

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 2>wrong outfit. That was good writing that. I was okay

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>because he was.

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Really trying to be helpful. And then uh, and then

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>everything went down. But what about Delilah's death?

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Was that predictable coming?

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 2>When I first watched this, I didn't know she was

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna die like that.

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Nobody had to die, So yeah, I thought it was

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna be smoking, Yeah, smoking ship, That's what I thought.

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>That's not there.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I thought when she jumped up out of

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 5>the track carbage, it's one of the most iconic.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was fire.

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:34.879
<v Speaker 5>That was fire cinema, I think, like, yeah, not even

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 5>just on some black ship, but the ship just looked.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Gangster the fact man.

0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh, Cleon talking about skip and he wanted to

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:45.359
<v Speaker 1>ended up freezing up.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, but nah, this this whole thing with the

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 2>ship quick and uh but they got away. Dela got shot,

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Jose almost got away.

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 3>And what's his face got shot?

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 4>Took Yeah, you got running on top of the cars

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 4>was insane.

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Why why would you.

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Run on top of them, calls stop, they bring too

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 4>much attention. You slo running on top of cars and

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 4>running on flat.

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 2>That didn't make any sense.

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that part felt this part felt rushed to me.

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.359
<v Speaker 5>The heights, Yeah, I feel like they spend more time

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 5>on the war stuff than the heist.

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, and show how fast everything like these

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.920
<v Speaker 1>are the repercussions of the war, and you know, it's

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just also reflection of how they treat just veterans and

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:47.439
<v Speaker 1>black veterans just in general. This guy can't get a job.

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>The community we see is declining. When they came back,

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Skip said, white people are moving out. Also, he also

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that when he was talking about the stuff that

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 1>was in him, Anthony said, we looked at him it

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>was like and thought it was heroin.

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>He was like, no, it's not heroin, because I know

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 2>what that feels like. He said that in the movie. Yeah,

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I looked it up.

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 3>I saw another thing while you were talking that said

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 3>Agent Orange. I just wish they would have been clear

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 3>about that. I never would have picked it up unless

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 3>you if you hadn't said it.

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I just found out last night. I never would have

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:20.319
<v Speaker 2>picked it up either.

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe they wanted to wanted it to be vague,

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.479
<v Speaker 1>just to kind of reflect the times.

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that maybe, yeah, maybe because he wouldn't

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 3>have known what Agent Orange was.

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, but they got away. Man, they can't get

0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>but sixty grand. But it doesn't that's a lot of money, bro.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 2>They did a bet for two dollars, that's true, and.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Got beat down over it.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Point points. They got three hundred k. And that's the

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 2>money that wasn't burnt because this fool it supposed to

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 2>got a lot more. Split five away your sixty untraceable.

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was like, I can't believe they're gonna which

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>again were talking about the Argentina story. They have to

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>burn all that ship up when so many people could

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>use that money, you know, But either way, I.

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Go Chapelle, gonna go snitch.

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.840
<v Speaker 1>He felt guilty though, and they could see him unraveling.

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Kirby, Kirby should have picked up on that shot.

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Should because he was giving away money. He started doing that,

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 3>they should have grabbed him and killed him.

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, he was. He was show signs of guilt at

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the table, but he was like, well, we could just

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:30.359
<v Speaker 2>take your cut. He was like, nah, too far. He's like, Lord,

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 2>can find some good use for it, which is what

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>he thought he was doing.

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Like it was to him it was blood money, right, yeah,

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Kirby just didn't get to him in time.

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, Kirby was right. Anthony wanted to go talk

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 2>to him quick.

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>He did.

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:51.359
<v Speaker 2>He grabbed that pin, they gave him a burger was over.

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to know boss, and they almost got away

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>with it, and then we see Skips over dosed.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I was white crazy scene that was watching Johnny Carson, which.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>You take the song tired of being along, you know,

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and use that and referenced to come from the war

0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>alone like man, just a small little thing, bro. But

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 1>but I think I think Cleon's portrayal makes sense though,

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>given his guilt that it was, Yeah, I feel like

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>he would have been it was giving out money too, yeah,

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't a lot he was giving.

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Even told him that's too much like Skip.

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>He was like, you said, it's still in free talks,

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.399
<v Speaker 1>and then that was it. I think at that point

0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>they get arrested because they were about to leave.

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>I just wish they would have got away, but it

0:50:57.520 --> 0:50:59.399
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have really made the larger point they were trying

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to make the movie, but but.

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they busted.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And then you have the hallways scene, which I think

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 1>is really dope when you take this black man in

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 1>the middle surrounded by police guns pointed on them.

0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 3>That scene was so funny to me because if they

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 3>were pointing their guns, there was people like putting their

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 3>guns over the shoulders. I know, the cops point their guns.

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, bro, y'all chill out because if any of

0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 3>you fire, there's other cops on the other end. But

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 3>that scene is still an iconic scene.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a reflection of it in

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that time and at times now a reflection of black men,

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, black people, you know in America, this whole

0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>system and institution which leads us to the courtroom.

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Wait, when Cuddy was trying to fight him off with

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 3>a pool stick, Yeah yeah, yah, I'm like, bro, if

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 3>you don't do because one, he didn't have no reason

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:54.359
<v Speaker 3>to pick a poo. They were leased, they was walking

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 3>out the door. He just randomly picked up the pol.

0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 5>But he didn't see them yet. Mean, that's told him,

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 5>he said, I don't think so. Yes, he picked it up,

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 5>and he told him to run away.

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Him try to hold him off.

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 5>But you're right about the pool stick. You might right

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.000
<v Speaker 5>about that. He have to pick up a stick, yeah,

0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 5>he I thought.

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 4>I thought they were talking, and he picked it up,

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 4>and they were doing they let's get out of here,

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 4>and when as it were walking out, he picked it up.

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 2>He picked it up.

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when the cops were coming down the stairs, he

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 3>grabbed the stick like he was going to use that.

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 3>The fight got you, like, they have guns, dude.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:35.279
<v Speaker 5>And why would you not think round y'all, one, leg

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 5>y'all run. There was just a step too slow, step

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:39.880
<v Speaker 5>too slow.

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Man, and that could work to work too.

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:50.399
<v Speaker 1>But the courtroom scene, I think is a really interesting scene.

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And the ending of the movie. I think it's a

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 1>real interesting scene and trying that the title of the

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>movie where you have this guy basically pleading trying to use,

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, is his veteran status to gain favor and

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>gave it, gave him life, and not only that, fussed

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>that cut.

0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Him off, Like, look, first of all, right, there I

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:17.399
<v Speaker 2>served as a marine and he's a disgrace. He said

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 2>he served in the real war. That that part too

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 2>was fucked up.

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:26.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, it was just I thought that that line

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.360
<v Speaker 3>about I served in the real war was deep because

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 3>the way that people looked at the Vietnam War is

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 3>not really being a warm So I thought, actually, oh yeah,

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:40.160
<v Speaker 3>they even back then everyone was protesting the war because

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 3>we had no business going over there. It was basically

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:44.879
<v Speaker 3>not basically it was kind of like the same sort

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 3>of situation with like the Middle East and all that.

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:48.399
<v Speaker 3>They're like, why are y'all over there?

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 2>So other veterans look at the veterans. I didn't know that.

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 2>That's why muhammad A want to go on all of you.

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I knew about the war.

0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:56.359
<v Speaker 4>As far as the protesting people notting it, I didn't

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 4>know within the community of veterans that they looked at

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 4>that like fake boy.

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:01.680
<v Speaker 2>I thought they respected the war as war.

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 3>No, they just mean it wasn't really a war. It

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 3>was a fucking beat down America went over there and

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 3>got their ask fucking with these goddamn viet Cong.

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, so.

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 3>They I know, it just sounds weird.

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:26.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so yeah, what he said, I was in

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:26.719
<v Speaker 2>the real war.

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, I have decency, dedication, and honor, And he

0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>said he gave him fifteen to life.

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:34.439
<v Speaker 2>This bro, he was so mad.

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Bro, what not all this motherfucking country man.

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh Man in the Judge of Famous acting play, Yeah,

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:48.800
<v Speaker 4>that was another under utilization.

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:51.240
<v Speaker 2>What's his name? He played the president?

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Saw it?

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 2>He played the President and which I just saw it, Mike,

0:54:55.400 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I saw last night, mar she Da Yeah, yep, yeah.

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting.

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So but he's talking about, like again, you got to

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>think about the opportunity that's afforded him, especially in the seventies.

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 1>You can come back for war. You're one of the

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>very few white people also that's able to come back

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>for war to go on to be a judge. There

0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of other white people that are still

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:24.360
<v Speaker 1>being shipped on as well. It's just for black people

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 1>is definitely much harder. This was a man that was

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 1>working for his country on light skip because Skip had

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:34.759
<v Speaker 1>all the money. Skip had every single damn government check

0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you could think of, to mailbox three times a week,

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>so he didn't really have to do it. So he

0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was straight, but he paid for it because of the

0:55:42.080 --> 0:55:44.879
<v Speaker 1>age of Orange, the addiction and stuff that he had,

0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he lost his job through unfortunate circumstances

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:55.359
<v Speaker 1>because of the economy, and he resorted to a lot

0:55:55.480 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of this heights, so the opportunity were not there for him.

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:03.879
<v Speaker 1>And then at the end of the movie we see

0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>him on a bus going to jail with nothing but

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>black people.

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Crazy enything, bro damn man at all? No, I think

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 2>it was it was. It was. It was sad, it was,

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was an accurate depiction of and you

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 2>think about like like.

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 5>The nobody you get that off exactly, the added layer

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:42.200
<v Speaker 5>of dead presidents, right, because this country was set up by.

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Presidents that was built for white people, you know. So

0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you have the title which has more than one meaning

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:54.840
<v Speaker 1>to it as well. So and then you end with

0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the black people going to jail basically being institutionalized and

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>being going back to uh plantation.

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Bro ship was great stop, Oh my god, last because

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:14.400
<v Speaker 2>this man right here, Yes, and I think I.

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Perfectly uh visualized and emphasized the point that they were

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:19.240
<v Speaker 1>trying to make.

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was always a fucking slave man. He was

0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 3>a slave in the fucking white man's army. He was

0:57:24.320 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 3>a slave in the hood.

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 2>And what happened.

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 3>No, that's been doing it all. It's just like right here,

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 3>it's like why are you you have no fucking idea

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 3>of personal space?

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, well, were you're done, might just real quick, underrated gym?

0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Is this movie underrated gym or cult class?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I could see it being labeled an underrated

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<v Speaker 3>gym just because it really is a deep movie. And

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<v Speaker 3>even with the heightst being so stupid, that still makes

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<v Speaker 3>sense because they were all so desperate that they were

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<v Speaker 3>just like, I'll give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's mislabeled as a heist movie. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's what it is. And I used to and that's

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<v Speaker 4>what my issue is. Yeah, I used to look at

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<v Speaker 4>it as like one of those bank robber movies. But

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<v Speaker 4>now looking at it older, watching it this time, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 4>this ain't even about that. I guess about just the

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<v Speaker 4>whole like a coming of age story. Damn nearing how America.

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<v Speaker 4>It was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it on this watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question. You can answer that if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Dead Presidents get the recognition it deserves?

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<v Speaker 5>I like, when I saw the reviews when we open up,

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I was really surprised that it had

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<v Speaker 5>got rated as low as it was, because I never

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<v Speaker 5>looked at it as a low rated movie. I thought

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<v Speaker 5>I had my issues with it, sure, but and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just joking about the taller person of but but nah,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I've always always been up there. It's always been

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<v Speaker 5>one of those ones, like you know, to me, Like

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<v Speaker 5>it's not like I said, quite boys in the hood

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<v Speaker 5>and men's society.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think after especially after reviewing, this is a lot

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<v Speaker 5>deeper than that, and it touched on other things in

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<v Speaker 5>our society and black and black folks. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's an important movie in our history of black movie, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>For you brothers. All Right, we'll leave it there.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate you guys, and we'll cut you guys in

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<v Speaker 2>next time. We off. Peace,