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Speaker 1: Eddie.

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Speaker 2: We just played this whole thing about it being hump Day, right,

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Speaker 2: hump Day, Wednesday, and why do we call it hump day?

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Speaker 2: Think about this, Why is it called hump day.

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Speaker 3: We're at the halfway point of the work week.

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Speaker 2: Correct, you're getting over the hump, right, You're getting over

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Speaker 2: the hump, and you're you're now into like, you know,

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Speaker 2: sliding into the back half of the week. Your momentum

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Speaker 2: is carrying you now. And when it's hump day, what

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Speaker 2: that means is you're excited because you're cresting the hill

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Speaker 2: of the hump of the week and now it's I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to say coast time, but theoretically the climbing

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Speaker 2: is behind you.

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Speaker 1: And so it's hump day.

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Speaker 2: And Wednesday is a day about the optimism of looking forward.

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Speaker 2: On Wednesday, it's called hump Day. And you're excited about

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Speaker 2: it being Wednesday and about being midway through the week

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Speaker 2: because you're now you're like, okay, we're on the back

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Speaker 2: half of it. Now we're closer again to Friday and

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Speaker 2: the Saturday into the weekend, and you know everybody's working

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Speaker 2: for the weekend, baby, right, And that sort of vision,

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Speaker 2: that sort of optimism is the kind of thing that unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: it feels like with the Colts, we're not in We're

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Speaker 2: not in this. Okay, We're over the hump now and

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Speaker 2: now it's coast time, moving forward and before us very

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Speaker 2: clearly we can see Thursday, Friday, the weekend and good

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Speaker 2: times and good fortune. Because like when you're writing The Beast,

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Speaker 2: and you're writing The Beast and you're going up the

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Speaker 2: hill and you're sitting there and you're nervous and you're anxious,

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Speaker 2: and you hear the sh and it's climbing up the

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Speaker 2: hill and you're like, oh my gosh, and then you

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Speaker 2: get to the top of it hump day.

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Speaker 1: And then boom, the fun begin.

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Speaker 2: It's all about at that point speed and adrenaline and

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Speaker 2: rush and inertia and all of that, and it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: And I really think the Colts thought.

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Speaker 2: That at this time of the financial season in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League, in the offseason, I thought the Colts

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Speaker 2: I really do think that Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen

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Speaker 2: and Carli Ersea Gordon, I think they thought that the

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Speaker 2: first week in March was their hump day, that the

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Speaker 2: climbing and the ticking and the anticipation was going to

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Speaker 2: be over with and now it was going to be

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Speaker 2: Let the good times roll.

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Speaker 1: We've got our quarterback locked in.

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Speaker 2: We are going to come to an agreement and get

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Speaker 2: nailed down our wide receiver, and as soon as Daniel

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Speaker 2: Jones is healthy, we're bringing the band back together.

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Speaker 1: And they're in a bit of a predicament here. What

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Speaker 1: we know since we.

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Speaker 2: Talked to you yesterday, and of course it happened right

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Speaker 2: after we got off the air, is that for the

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Speaker 2: first time since Indianapolis has owned Jeff George some thirty

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Speaker 2: years ago, we have a quarterback in the National Football

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Speaker 2: League who has been given the transition tag. That is

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Speaker 2: the rarer of the franchise. Franchise tags we've got. We

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Speaker 2: went over yesterday what all of them mean. But the

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Speaker 2: transition tag means simply this. And Eddie, I am not

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Speaker 2: an economist, so you can feel free to jump in

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Speaker 2: and tell me when I make a statement of fact

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Speaker 2: that is of air, okay, because I'm not the sharpest

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Speaker 2: tool in the shed, and I'm aware of that. But

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Speaker 2: to put it simply for people that are wondering what

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Speaker 2: this means, what this means is that the Colts have

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Speaker 2: put the label on Daniel Jones as we're putting this

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Speaker 2: on hold and reserve. If you the Arizona Cardinals, if

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Speaker 2: just throwing out generic team names. If you would like

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Speaker 2: to sign Daniel Jones, that's fine. You have until July

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Speaker 2: the twenty second to offer him a contract and offer

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Speaker 2: sheet if you will that he then is forced to

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Speaker 2: what team A has made me an offer and I

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Speaker 2: like it and that's what I want to do. And

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Speaker 2: the Colts then have the opportunity to match that offer

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Speaker 2: and say no, we actually we will pay that amount

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Speaker 1: They we match what they offer.

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Speaker 2: A good example of this, to put it in Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: vernacular for folks, would be, if you can recall a

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Speaker 2: but similar circumstance. DeAndre Ayton of the Phoenix Suns was

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Speaker 2: a free agent, but he was a restricted free agent.

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Speaker 2: And the Pacers went and said, we'd like to have

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Speaker 2: so he said, this is really nice, but you've got

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make on it.

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Speaker 3: I've got to take it to my boss.

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Speaker 2: And so DeAndre Ayton took that offer sheet to the

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Speaker 2: you are still a Phoenix Sun. There's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of gamesmanship that can go into this. I don't anticipate

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Speaker 2: not probable, but possible that there is a team that

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Speaker 2: For example, let's just say that the Colts are very

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Speaker 2: interested in getting themselves a defensive pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: They're not sold on the Aatu Latu.

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Speaker 2: They feel like the time that the quity pay and

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Speaker 1: They've seen enough.

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Speaker 2: And let's say, for the sake of discussion, simply for

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: He is now available correct Eddie as a free agent.

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Speaker 2: So let's just say for the sake of discussion that

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Speaker 2: let's say that they say, you know what, he still

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Speaker 1: It is possible.

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Speaker 2: That New Orleans looks at it and says, I don't

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Speaker 1: And then the New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: That can come. You can get played that way.

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Speaker 2: It's not not common, and we haven't seen the transition

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Speaker 2: the Colts. If Daniel Jones ends up playing this season,

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Speaker 2: if they can't come to a deal by the time

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Speaker 2: paid him if they had franchise tagged him. Franchise tagging

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Speaker 2: It literally unplugs his phone, It turns off his LinkedIn,

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Speaker 2: it evaporates his bumble. He can't talk to anybody if

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Speaker 2: the payoff or the trade if you will, of not

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Speaker 2: having to be as financially linked to Daniel Jones under

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Speaker 2: that the Colts opt not to match, the Colts get nothing.

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Speaker 1: They get nothing.

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Speaker 2: There are other variables they could have gone with to say,

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Speaker 2: at least getting two first round picks in return. Well

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Speaker 2: So you can do it that way, but that would

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Speaker 2: they've got to do it pretty They've got some things

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Speaker 2: to do here in the next week.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 3: and the conclusion is that any team that has the

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Speaker 3: the thirty seven point eight or the forty five million

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Speaker 1: Okay, So they have a week to start shedding some weight.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're curious, this is to get to that

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Speaker 3: before Wednesday, Okay, in order to make an offer to

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Speaker 2: These are the teams that right now, if they wanted

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Speaker 1: We got extra money.

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Speaker 2: We we just found out that an uncle we didn't

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Speaker 1: Baby, let's go, let's spend it. Here are the franchises.

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Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans, theoretically pretty good at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: And I like Daniel Jones a lot, and I, Alec

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Speaker 1: It's Myles Turner all over again. A little bit.

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Speaker 2: Different because they didn't necessarily, like consistently mention Alec Pierson

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Speaker 1: That changes things.

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Speaker 2: Both of the now still are not committed long term

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Speaker 2: a lot to talk about in the program today, including

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Speaker 1: Ryan Carr. You've seen the movie Office Space, right, Eddie?

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Speaker 2: Nope, Okay, I'm gonna be I've only seen it once,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've probably seen several scenes of the movie at

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Speaker 2: up one o'clock today, speaking of Indiana Basketball Big Ten

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Speaker 2: But I'll let you know why. Eddie is going to

439
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Speaker 2: pull an all nighter next by the Way Fan Invitational

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Speaker 1: Going to be an awesome day.

443
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444
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445
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Speaker 1: Pardon the pun.

446
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Speaker 2: There Legends is absolutely the best ted Bishop of the

447
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448
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449
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,199
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450
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451
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452
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,240
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Speaker 1: Very very cool stuff.

461
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Speaker 2: Ryan Carr coming up as I had mentioned, just under

462
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Speaker 2: a half an hour from now.

463
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Speaker 1: But Eddie, tonight is going to be a late night

464
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: for you.

465
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: Right late is probably putting it mild, so mild. I'll

466
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: be here until too in the morning.

467
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

468
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: Get to be a short day for John today for

469
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: JMV because he's on till five point fifteen and he's

470
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: live at Hinkle yep. And then Butler taking into the

471
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: court at five pacers in action tonight and they are

472
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: taking on the Clippers, the La.

473
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: Clippers right ten thirty tip ten o'clock pregame.

474
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: And so the Benedict Matherin return not to Indiana.

475
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: I'll be sipping on my Java house later tonight to

476
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: keep me up. Which one are you going with? Oh,

477
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: it depends on how I feel later. If I'm gonna

478
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: need the Colombian Colbrew coffee or if I'll need the

479
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: Wrangler energy. I'll have to wait and see.

480
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: You know, the coffee is fabulous, right this we know

481
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: Matherin was asked yesterday by the way about and I

482
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: found this interesting Ben Matherin yesterday being asked about playing

483
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: the Pacers, and it would be unusual, it would be odd,

484
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: especially this soon after being traded. Matherin's a guy. We've

485
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: gone over it one hundred times. You guys have all

486
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: heard me say it. I mean, I like Matherin. I

487
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: think Matheren's a good player. Matherin was never anything by

488
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: all account, but a good teammate. He's a competitive dude.

489
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: Put your nose down and get after it, dude. And yes,

490
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: I will forever wonder for the rest of my life.

491
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: It will haunt me forever about Game four and the

492
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: two off ball fouls and the miss free throws and

493
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: what that could have meant. But at the same time,

494
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: he basically won them Game three.

495
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Now, he was.

496
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Yesterday after practice asked by the Los Angeles media about

497
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: going back and playing against the Pacers and what that

498
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: would mean. And I'm playing this for two reasons. Number

499
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: one to hear what Benn Nick Matheren has to say,

500
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: and number two to say this one of my age

501
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: old theories.

502
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: You ready for a query as am edi.

503
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm always ready for a queriism.

504
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: I have a theory on this. If you have an iPhone.

505
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: The iPhone works in two ways. Really, it works as

506
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: three things. It works as a computer, it works as

507
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: a camera, and it works as.

508
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: A telephone.

509
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: And an audio recorder and an audio recorder. But that's

510
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: part of the computer system in it. But if you

511
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: are talking to someone on an iPhone and you, while

512
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: talking to them, have them on speaker.

513
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm convinced of this.

514
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: If you're talking to another iPhone person and you have

515
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: them on speakerphone, so you're in your car, you're not

516
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: using the hands free whatever, you just have it on speakerphone,

517
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: the iPhone is smart enough to know this person is

518
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: putting this on speaker because they're having a hard time

519
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: hearing the person talking on the other end. So the

520
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: iPhone then turns on if I'm talking to you. For example,

521
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: your phone has two microphones, one for when you're using

522
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: it as a phone and one from when you're using

523
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: it as a video camera. And so if one person

524
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: is listening to it and they hit it on speaker,

525
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: the phone is smart enough to know I'm going to

526
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: do everything I can to make the other person sound louder,

527
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 2: so it turns on both microphones. So if you're ever

528
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: talking to someone on a speakerphone and you're like, what

529
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: in the world is that noise? Like I just open

530
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: my mail, like that is so loud, Like, no, it's not.

531
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: Well it is because he's now turned on both microphones.

532
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: Or if you're talking to somebody with the AirPods and

533
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: they're like rummaging through papers.

534
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Yes, right, it's like, oh my gosh.

535
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate this audio and this question from Ben Matherin,

536
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 2: but I'm fairly convinced this Los Angeles reporter had some

537
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: sort of a device on their phone that was utilizing

538
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: both speakers, because you can hear the guys in the

539
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: shower nearly as loud as you can hear Benedict matheron.

540
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 2: But pay attention to the latter part note, because Matherin

541
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: says nice things about Indiana.

542
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun.

543
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 5: There were a lot of fun.

544
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: You know.

545
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 7: I've had a great time over there.

546
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: I'm so you're.

547
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: Half I mean, what are we doing here?

548
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 7: There's no there's no hate towards the both parties so

549
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 7: much as twenty years old.

550
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: When twenty years old, in a.

551
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 7: Couple of days, I might I dropped it back.

552
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 6: So it's pretty much all I know.

553
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 7: You know, what I'm saying when it comes to the NBA.

554
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: So it's great.

555
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 7: I feel like it's good to be on a different

556
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 7: part of the game. Right now, you're gonna be on

557
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 7: the on a different team, being able.

558
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: To it's just guy on Mars.

559
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 7: It's gonna be fun. Then I'm looking forward to have

560
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 7: a lot of fun and just to compete.

561
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: It what okay.

562
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: So basically, if you didn't hear it, basically what he

563
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: says is, look, there's no it's all love. There's no

564
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: hate there. I was twenty years old when I was

565
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: drafted there. I've never known any different. But it's good

566
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: to get a different perspective on things. But I look

567
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: forward to it and it'll be fun, which is about

568
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: what you would expect him to say, because literally, there's

569
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: not a shred of bad blood between them, right quiet, dude,

570
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: I will tell you this. When it comes to the

571
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: PACER's locker room, Benedict Mathern and that clip and the

572
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: reason I played it, I know that was annoying as

573
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: hell to wade through, but there's an irony there. There's

574
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: an irony there, and at the same time there that

575
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: was perfectly fitting and summarizing because with Benedict Matherin. Even

576
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: in his really good games as a pacer, which there

577
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: were plenty, there was always a ton of background noise,

578
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: not to the run our test level, but just the

579
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: question of like did that game come because everybody else

580
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: was off that day, or it did you know, why

581
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: did it take him long to get going offensively? Or

582
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: just imagine how good he'll be once his toe is healthy,

583
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: or you know, on and on and on, right.

584
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: And so.

585
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: But in addition to that, he's kind of drowned out

586
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: by the fact that he's a quiet guy. And that

587
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: audio summarizes very succinctly the way Matherin was in the

588
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: locker room the pacers, And I mean that in a

589
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: good way. He was a very quiet It is still

590
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: it's not like he's you know, but I mean, I

591
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: assume in la the same. But as a pacer, he

592
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: was a pretty quiet guy. He was a very quiet

593
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: and understated guy. And I don't mean to say that

594
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: he didn't get along with his teammates, but I do

595
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: think that if they were all getting together to go bowling,

596
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, probably at some point somebody's like, hey, do

597
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: we what's Mathern doing? Do we know what Matherin's doing,

598
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of thing. So we'll see what

599
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: happens tonight. In terms of I would assume that there's

600
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: going to be a lot of positivity exchange between them, right,

601
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: a lot of luve between him.

602
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 3: I can only imagine what's gonna happen knowing Ben mathering Jake,

603
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: because you heard you remember what he said about going

604
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: up against Tyres right whenever they were rehabbing together, and

605
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: he was just like Matherin, Oh yeah, yeah, jokingly he

606
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, man, what do you expect when you

607
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: face me?

608
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: Or whatever?

609
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: And then after the whole Turner thing, he posted a

610
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: picture on his Instagram story of him Duncan on Miles

611
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: Turner and like an open gym practice or something.

612
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: Didn't he also, wasn't he the one who's drafted that

613
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: said like, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna go out there

614
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: to beat Lebron.

615
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, the Lebron's got to prove his greatness or

616
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: something to him. Yeah yeah, And then you can only

617
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 3: imagine what's gonna happen now, Like even like the whole

618
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: j and n Ivy thing as well, like he for

619
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: whatever reason, anytime he was going up against Detroit and

620
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: je and Ivy he had some personal vendetta against Detroit

621
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: the Pistons or Ivy himself and always just sought after

622
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: the matchup or whatever.

623
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: By the way, have we officially determined if Jade and

624
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Ivy in the NBA is in fact a jag.

625
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: Well, he would have to be in the rotation consistently.

626
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: Just for got to happen, and like you have just

627
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: got her as well, Like how far behind is he

628
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: still in the recovery from that leg injury from last year?

629
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: He had a bad injury. It's very similar to Isaiah

630
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: Pacheco of the Chiefs, and he hasn't been the same either.

631
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: It just feels like in the NBA in particular, you

632
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: go through a period where like if it doesn't click

633
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: for you or it hasn't happened, you're you're just kind

634
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: of there at that point, right, and you just kind

635
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: of get lost in the shuffle and you're just a guy.

636
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that, Nothing wrong with that.

637
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of players that they get to

638
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: the NBA and you're like, Okay, they're fine, They're just

639
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: kind of there, right. Ryan Carr in nineteen Minutes He

640
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: is the new executive director of Indiana Basketball. But is

641
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: there a player we mentioned him earlier that could find

642
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: his way to Indianapolis. And just as we talk about

643
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: the fact that the Colts sometimes say to themselves, you know,

644
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: it'll just work itself out, is there one that might

645
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: actually that's going to be true.

646
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: We'll explain next.

647
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: We just had We just had a computer throw up

648
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: on itself, did we not? That computer sounded like Ben

649
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Mathern's locker room interview.

650
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: I messed up earlier, and I think that's part of it.

651
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: I didn't double check something, so that's my fault.

652
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: Well, Eddie, I commend you for stepping up to the

653
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: plate and fall on that sword. If you have said

654
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: to me, listen, I'm old enough that if you just

655
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: say to me, yeah, the computer froze up, like okay, I.

656
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: Don't want to blame our new automation system that was

657
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: all operator. Okay, Well, that's wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: I can live with that. What would you say is

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Speaker 2: the age if you take a dynamic, what position in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, Eddie, do you think has the most.

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Speaker 1: Definitive cliff.

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Speaker 3: Running back?

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Speaker 2: Okay, hard argue that what would you say is the

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Speaker 2: age that you'd be like, yesh, twenty nine, okay, thirty yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think certainly early thirties, right.

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Speaker 3: You started to see it at twenty nine and thirties

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Speaker 3: when it really starts to kind of place.

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Speaker 2: Why you know, the Frank Gores and the Adrian Peterson's

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Speaker 2: of the world.

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Speaker 1: It's why it's impressive.

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Speaker 3: What they were is in Derrick Henry and Derrick Henry

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Speaker 3: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, uh, what would you say? Give me another.

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Speaker 2: Position, say wide receiver. What's your magic number there? Thirty

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Speaker 2: what you can.

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Speaker 3: Probably last reach to your early thirties thirty two?

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Speaker 8: Issu? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What about depending on what your skill set is, I

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Speaker 3: should say what.

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Speaker 1: About edge rusher, defensive end?

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Speaker 3: I would just say almost the normal shelf life for

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Speaker 3: any NFL player now if you're at a premier position,

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Speaker 3: So wide receiver, edge tackles corners like thirty two typically

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Speaker 3: when it starts to start seeing it, right, How old

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Speaker 3: is DeForrest Buckner? Good?

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Speaker 2: Question, feels like he's around there? Is he thirty two

687
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Speaker 2: to thirty three? He's thirty one?

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Speaker 3: Thirty thirty one? He turns thirty two in two weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Trey Hendrickson's thirty one. He is now a free

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Speaker 2: agent out of Cincinnati and of course his former defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator with the Colts, And there has been discussion before

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Speaker 2: do they make a trade, do they make a move there?

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Speaker 1: And you know, maybe, just maybe, maybe, just maybe.

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Speaker 2: The Colts when everyone was assuming when Hendrickson was in

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Speaker 2: some contract negotiations or stall with Cincinnati and the four

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Speaker 2: on conclusion, the safe money, the safe bet, was that

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson would link back up with lou and Arumo. Maybe

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Speaker 2: just maybe, the Colts said, you know what, we're going

699
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Speaker 2: to ride this out because he's going to become a

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Speaker 2: free agent. And when that's the case, this might be

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Speaker 2: a place where he is interested in landing.

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Speaker 1: So there's no.

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Speaker 2: Sense in going out right now and signing him to

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Speaker 2: some deal. Will just you know, giving up anything to

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Speaker 2: get him because we can get him as a free agent.

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's the case, But then the question becomes

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Speaker 2: whatever his salary would be. And I talked to Jeff

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Speaker 2: earlier today and I know these guys talked about it

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Speaker 2: on the Morning show. But it's a good question. If

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Speaker 2: you had to ink right now a player, if you

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Speaker 2: had to pick between two, would you rather re sign

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Speaker 2: Pierce or go out and get Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: If you you had to financially pick one or the.

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Speaker 3: Other, I would take Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that for two reasons.

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Speaker 2: Number one, the age and number two just the familiarity

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Speaker 2: in general. Right, there is a safety in the familiarity

718
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Speaker 2: in general.

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Speaker 3: And number three, I would say the injury history on Hendrickson,

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Speaker 3: at least dealing with a hip issue last year at

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Speaker 3: thirty one. It's a bit concerning for me.

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Speaker 2: The other thing. But here's the other side of that, Eddie.

723
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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce on this offense is potentially a luxury and

724
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Speaker 2: not a necessity. Now, before you kill me for saying that,

725
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Speaker 2: let me repeat it. He is potentially a luxury and

726
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Speaker 2: not a necessity. If Alec Pierce were to walk sign

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Speaker 2: somewhere else. And what did he say out free agency, Eddie?

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Speaker 2: Do we have that clip of what he said about

729
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Speaker 2: free agency Alec Pierce? This is what Alec Pierce said

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Speaker 2: about the possibility of becoming a guy that's on the

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Speaker 2: open market and open for business.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, at this point, now it's like, I

733
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Speaker 4: love Indy. I've loved playing there. Great organization, great people

734
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Speaker 4: in the city. You know, just a lot of a

735
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Speaker 4: ton of support. I know we haven't been as good

736
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Speaker 4: as we we could be, and I know we can be,

737
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Speaker 4: but yeah, not at this point. Kind of earned the

738
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Speaker 4: right to explore free agency, see what's out there, and

739
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Speaker 4: just you know, make a decision that's best for my career,

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Speaker 4: uh and for my family.

741
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's from Upping Adams by the way, the show

742
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Speaker 2: with Kay Adams, But Alec Pierce right there, I mean,

743
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Speaker 2: that doesn't sound like a guy that's like obviously Indianapolis

744
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Speaker 2: being my first choice, but you know, I just want

745
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Speaker 2: to see what's out there. I gotta do what's best

746
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Speaker 2: for me in my career. Well, if Buffalo comes calling,

747
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Speaker 2: or a team that clearly he immediately becomes a deep

748
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Speaker 2: ball three deep balls per game on a contending team

749
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Speaker 2: level team, does he or the money aspect of it

750
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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: But I would say the two teams that concern me

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Speaker 3: the most because A they have money and b they've

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Speaker 3: got quarterbacks that excel at throwing the ball down the field,

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Speaker 3: the LA Chargers, who have the most cast face right

755
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Speaker 3: now in the NFL. And then the team that was

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Speaker 3: just in the Super Bowl representing the AFC and the

757
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Speaker 3: New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's for both of those right now. It

759
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Speaker 2: would be a difficult thing to see him go, but

760
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Speaker 2: he could potentially be a luxury and not a necessity

761
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Speaker 2: because if Tyler Warren develops at the rate in which

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Speaker 2: Alec Pierce did, different player. Not a deep ball guy,

763
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Speaker 2: I realize, but that softens up the middle of a

764
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Speaker 2: defense when you've got Warren going all over the place

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Speaker 2: and Josh Downs and then Downs can become a deep

766
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Speaker 2: ball guy. Ashton Dulan has shown some ability there and

767
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Speaker 2: Pittman's not a deep ball guy, but he does open

768
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Speaker 2: things up for you. So I think that Warren and

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Speaker 2: his emergence, maybe your your big strike play doesn't come

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Speaker 2: with the sixty yard bomb to Alec Pearce, but rather

771
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Speaker 2: on a Tyler Warren in space, running at full speed,

772
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Speaker 2: get him the football and now you've got Jeremy Shocky

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Speaker 2: on wheels level tied end.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you really So.

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Speaker 2: There is replacement that can come theoretically from a departure

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Speaker 2: of Alec Pierce. Hendrickson is at a position that you've

777
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Speaker 2: desperately been trying to fill for multiple years now, and

778
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Speaker 2: you have a guy on it that is coming off

779
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Speaker 2: of injury whose availability has not been a really good

780
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Speaker 2: player into forst Buckner. But they're the same age, so

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Speaker 2: maybe the same guy. So there are a lot of

782
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Speaker 2: things to analyze there. Ryan Carr was the vice president

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Speaker 2: of player Personnel director of player person for the Pacers.

784
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Speaker 2: He has worked basically every job in helping build the

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Speaker 2: Pacers franchise, and now he has the task of doing

786
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Speaker 2: exactly that at Indiana University. But what does that entail.

787
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Speaker 2: He's going to join us and we'll find out what

788
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Speaker 2: exactly that means next. This song prominently featured in Office Space.

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Speaker 2: Keep that in the back of your mind, because I

790
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Speaker 2: have a question for Ryan Carr as it relates to

791
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Speaker 2: that said twenty seven year old movie. But joining me

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Speaker 2: now on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. After

793
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Speaker 2: a long executive career with the Indiana Pacers, it was

794
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Speaker 2: within the last few weeks that we found out that

795
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Speaker 2: Ryan Carr is now the executive director of basketball for

796
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Speaker 2: Indiana University, the Hoosiers his alma mater, and he joins

797
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Speaker 2: me now on the program.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, how are you.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 5: It's good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

802
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Speaker 2: Let's and I know that some of the things that

803
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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask, and we're going to go over

804
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Speaker 2: here are things that are obvious to the two of

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Speaker 2: us and probably to many people who might have followed

806
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Speaker 2: your journey. But at the same time, knowing that many

807
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Speaker 2: listening may not know the background of it, I think

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Speaker 2: it's pertinent.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to go back to it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure you grew up in and see if I

811
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Speaker 2: can get this correct. You grew up in pull Up, Washington.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm saying that correctly, and went

813
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Speaker 2: to Rogers High School.

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Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, it's phenomenally close for someone that did not

815
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Speaker 9: grow up out there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you actually say how do you actually

817
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Speaker 2: say it?

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Speaker 9: I mean you were you were ninety eight percent of

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Speaker 9: the way to say that correctly.

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Speaker 2: Pew ollup right, Yeah, like a church, pew pu olyp okay,

821
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Speaker 2: soup Washington.

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Speaker 3: Are like those funds in the Star Wars.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: There you go, right pretty much?

825
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Speaker 2: Okay, exactly, So let's begin with this because the journey

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Speaker 2: is pertinent to where you are now. And this factoid is,

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Speaker 2: how does a kid from Pewallup, Washington, aside from driving

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Speaker 2: a car across the country, end up going to school

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Speaker 2: in Bloomington, Indiana.

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Speaker 5: That's a it's a great question.

831
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Speaker 9: And I you know, I from the time I was

832
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Speaker 9: probably in late elementary school. I think I started playing

833
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Speaker 9: basketball when I was in probably fourth grade is maybe

834
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Speaker 9: the first team I remember being on it like a YMCA.

835
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Speaker 5: I just I loved it.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately, from from the moment I started playing, up until

837
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Speaker 9: the last second I ever played, I was the smallest, strongest,

838
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Speaker 9: most unathletic kid. But that didn't stop me for as

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Speaker 9: long as I could, and I was able to play

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Speaker 9: on teams all the way up until my senior year

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Speaker 9: of high school. And I didn't make the team as

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Speaker 9: a senior. And shout out to my coaches and in

843
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Speaker 9: particular the high school coach at at Rogers High School

844
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Speaker 9: that you mentioned, Rod Iverson. Coach Iverson, even though he

845
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Speaker 9: cut me, knew how much.

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Speaker 5: I love loved the sport I was.

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Speaker 9: He and his son, who was like an all league

848
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Speaker 9: point guard, like the opposite talent of me, and I

849
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Speaker 9: were best friends and I was at his house a

850
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Speaker 9: lot and all that.

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Speaker 5: But he let me.

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Speaker 9: Stick around and kind of work with the coaching staff

853
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Speaker 9: do some statistic stuff that senior year and kept me

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Speaker 9: around the game I'd go scouting games with the coaches

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Speaker 9: and just really stayed involved. And during that time I

856
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Speaker 9: wrote letters. Back then, their email didn't exist. I wrote

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Speaker 9: letters to I mean, I always say thirty. I'm sure

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Speaker 9: it was at least thirty coaches around the country, big

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Speaker 9: time programs, mid programs, just whoever. I watched on TV

860
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Speaker 9: probably growing up that I thought looked like good basketball,

861
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Speaker 9: asking you know what a kid like me could do.

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Speaker 5: Was there a way to.

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Speaker 9: Go be involved with the program and learn? And originally

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Speaker 9: I didn't even write a letter to Indiana. My dad

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Speaker 9: was a marine. I think they at that he I

866
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Speaker 9: think they always say they are a marine if they

867
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Speaker 9: were a marine. So he was a marine, and and

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Speaker 9: he loved Coach Knight.

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Speaker 5: It was shortly, you know, a season.

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Speaker 9: On the Brink that book came out. I had read

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Speaker 9: that when I was in middle school. There's actually I

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Speaker 9: remember very clearly a page or two in there describing

873
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Speaker 9: like what managers did in Indiana, kind of the responsibilities,

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Speaker 9: how it was a good place for them to grow

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Speaker 9: into coaches, and some of the success stories even then

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Speaker 9: of managers. So even though you know, Indiana was on

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Speaker 9: in our house all the time, I thought coach, and

878
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 9: I was kind of crazy myself, but my dad said,

879
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 9: you know, you should write a letter there.

880
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 5: So I did. Well.

881
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 9: Of all those letters, I only got one back, and

882
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 9: only one one coach that I wrote to wrote me back,

883
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 9: and I was Coach Night, and there was no promise

884
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 9: in that, but he did. In that letter, which is

885
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 9: hanging on my wall and up in my home, is

886
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 9: just kind of describing they have a manager program and

887
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 9: all that stuff. And then it just so happened. At

888
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 9: Rogers High School, one of the guys who was actually

889
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 9: a really good player did make the team, was an

890
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 9: All league player. His grandfather owned Boden Basketballs, who at

891
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 9: the time, you know, had Coach Night on an endorsement contract.

892
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 9: Indiana used their basketballs. I didn't really even know any

893
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 9: of that at the time, but I got a call

894
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 9: from from Ed Schindler, who was the owner of the

895
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 9: company one day told me that his grandson, Jamie Hag

896
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 9: who now lives in South Bend as a Notre Dame

897
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 9: drad had.

898
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 5: Had told him.

899
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 9: About what I wanted to do and Coach and I

900
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 9: was coming through Seattle and wanted to know if I,

901
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 9: you know, wanted him to talk to me about having

902
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 9: a chance to be a manager here, and he'd talked

903
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 9: to him and they you know, and probably a very

904
00:49:55,320 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 9: you know, very ungdoubtedly one of the smallest decisions this

905
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 9: coach and I had ever made his life.

906
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 5: Let this kid, you.

907
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 9: Know, come from Seattle to be a manager and you know, and.

908
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: You had never been on the Indiana campus, right.

909
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 9: No, no way. I'd never been in the Midwest. I

910
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 9: had been to like Washington, d C. I've been to,

911
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 9: you know, trying to think of where else, but I

912
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 9: had never ever been in the Midwest.

913
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: You know, when you when you're driving down thirty seven,

914
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: go ahead.

915
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, when you're driving down thirty

916
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: seven back in those days from Indianapolis after and coming

917
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: down to Bloomington and you get to the little hills

918
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: of Martinsville, it looks like the Cascade Mountains, right, I mean,

919
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: there was no reason to be homesick.

920
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Right.

921
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 10: Uh?

922
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, Brown County and southern Indiana does have some

923
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 9: beautiful scenery, but not not quite the Cascades. I'm still

924
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 9: looking for the equivalent to Mount Rain here, but I

925
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 9: haven't found it.

926
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 3: Well, you'll be looking for a while.

927
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 9: It's find on the first drive from the airport down

928
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 9: going through Martinsville was Larry Bird Ford and which was

929
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 9: kind of and I knew that John Wooden had grown

930
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 9: up like I had known the history of Indiana, you know.

931
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 9: Obviously Hoosiers had come out not too long before that

932
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 9: as well, So I was all in on Indiana being

933
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 9: like the mecca that you know, the homeland.

934
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 5: For basketball or whatever.

935
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 9: So it was it was exciting to come but led

936
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 9: to you know, led to me being here and the

937
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 9: rest of the story.

938
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: Okay, so you and I think most people know by then,

939
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: after your time at Indiana, you you know, you got

940
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: into college coaching, You were at UTEP for a while,

941
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: You went to a couple of different places, and then

942
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: ultimately a connection with Larry Bird got you hired. Really Ryan,

943
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, at I hate to say

944
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: like on the ground floor, but I mean you started

945
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: at the very beginning with the Pacers and then were

946
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: moonlighting and fast food right.

947
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: Oh for sure. Yeah.

948
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 9: So so my first my first jift, like when I

949
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: got out of school, I worked for Kim Night for

950
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 9: a while doing doing some sports promotion stuff, and then

951
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 9: a year a little over a year after I got

952
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 9: out of school here at Indiana, got hired to do

953
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 9: as a video intern for the Pacers. This was in

954
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 9: the like September nineteen ninety seven.

955
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 5: Larry had just gotten hired as a coach of the

956
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 5: Pacers and.

957
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 9: They need, you know, as a manager here. I had

958
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 9: done a ton of like film breakdowns and different stuff

959
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 9: helping the coaches, and so they needed somebody that knew

960
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 9: how to.

961
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 5: Do all that. I got hired to do that.

962
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 9: Yes, that internship was was very low paying. They pay

963
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 9: was thirty dollars a home game, so that that's not

964
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 9: a lot even you know, I mean even if you

965
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 9: have ten home games in a month.

966
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 5: That doesn't pay the rent.

967
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 9: So yeah, what has become a fairly infamous or famous

968
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 9: part of my story is, yeah, I got up early

969
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 9: in the morning. Is the only job I could find

970
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 9: that I could get done in time in order to

971
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 9: be up at Marcus Square Arena by noon or so.

972
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 9: Was to you know, clean parking lots of Burger king.

973
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 9: And I didn't make any food. They didn't let me

974
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 9: handle food. They didn't I didn't even get to handle money.

975
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 9: But they let me clean the parking lots, And I mean,

976
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 9: what the heck, why not like it was enough to

977
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 9: pay rent, and then it allowed me to be you know,

978
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 9: we're you know, learning from Dan Burke, and Rick Carlisle,

979
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 9: Dick Harter and and Larry for sure, and probably you

980
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 9: know that that lasted a few months. They found out

981
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 9: they started paying me like seven dollars an.

982
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 5: Hour, and I was super jack to.

983
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 9: Do that and not have to get up at five

984
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 9: in the morning to spray down the parking lot.

985
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: So Ryan, when you were with the Pacers and so

986
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: so now that brings us to the meat of the

987
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: matter here, right, you're working for the Pacers. You've been

988
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: there for a quarter century. You've worked your way up

989
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: to an executive level. You know, you were overseeing their

990
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: scouting department. You were the you know involvement player, the

991
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: very top of player personnel. Yeah, and you know, here's

992
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: a franchise that was two quarters away from an NBA title,

993
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: and I know what that franchise meant to you. So

994
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: the first question would be this, why leave?

995
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 9: That's a you know, there was no pressure. Certainly, I

996
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 9: love the people I worked with. They could tell you

997
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 9: during my fury goodbyes last week of how you know,

998
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 9: it's it's obvious how much number one. The people there

999
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 9: mean to me, from mister Simon and Steve Simon, mister.

1000
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 5: Rails, who over the past few years.

1001
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 9: I got to interact with tremendously, as you know, kind

1002
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 9: of part of the executive staff, you know, with putting

1003
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 9: together the team and and all that, all the way

1004
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 9: down to everybody. I mean, I've been there so long and.

1005
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 5: I you know it obviously it's a job and.

1006
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 9: We're putting together a team, but it's really people, and

1007
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 9: you developed these very close relationships and and all of that.

1008
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 9: And it was as you said, look, they're going to

1009
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 9: be back to being really really good again next here.

1010
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 9: You know, when when the call came, it is a

1011
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 9: little bit shocking in away. Over the years I've put

1012
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 9: I've put very very little thought into even pursuing.

1013
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: So Indiana and Indiana reached out to you, not the

1014
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: other way around.

1015
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, they Coach de Breeze called Chad and asked for

1016
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 9: permission to talk to me about this job that they

1017
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 9: wanted to they wanted to create and and add to

1018
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 9: the program and kind of the current current uh you know,

1019
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 9: uh era of of college sports. And and I had

1020
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 9: gotten to know Darren over the last year He's pretty

1021
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 9: close with Chad. They're both from Iowa. So not long

1022
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 9: before he took the job, I met him and you know,

1023
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 9: just as a fan or you know, an alum all

1024
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 9: of that, would text him before games, after games, you know,

1025
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 9: offer any anything I could do to help. He had

1026
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 9: come up with his family to a couple of games

1027
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 9: at different times, and just really liked him, and then

1028
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 9: you know, got to talk a little basketball with him.

1029
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 9: I think we're pretty similar in how we view the game.

1030
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 9: And over the years too. Obviously, Scott Dolson when I

1031
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 9: came here as a student, he was a young.

1032
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: Worker in uh in the varsity club.

1033
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 9: And I've known him since since then, and we always

1034
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 9: kept in touch through changes here. Scott was a person

1035
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 9: that you know, was always here, so there's some you know,

1036
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 9: some familiarity whenever I'd come down.

1037
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 5: Or or or whatever.

1038
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 9: So yeah, So so Darren made the call and we.

1039
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 5: Started talking about it.

1040
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 9: We had a couple of long conversations, one in particular,

1041
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 9: just trying to figure out what maybe we do with

1042
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 9: the pacers that could work in this environment, What might

1043
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 9: you know, what wouldn't really.

1044
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 5: Work what they're doing, and how you know, just a really.

1045
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 9: Interesting conversation and trying to trying to see if there was,

1046
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 9: you know, something that that made sense and and worked.

1047
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 9: And I think as we started talking, you know that

1048
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 9: I've said that.

1049
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 5: I said this last week, like obviously.

1050
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 9: There's a ton of nostalgia for me. But I wasn't

1051
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 9: gonna take a job on nostalgia, like I you know,

1052
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 9: I was gonna as we started talking about it, it.

1053
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 5: Had to be about the tools here him as.

1054
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 9: A coach, you know, the resources, the the all the

1055
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 9: different things. A job that would be you know, fulfilling

1056
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 9: and and and be a challenge, uh and be something

1057
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 9: that would you know, I would wake up every morning

1058
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 9: super excited to go do like I already had all that.

1059
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 9: So it had to it really had to be something perfect.

1060
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So with that challenge, Ryan, Okay, I don't know

1061
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: if you've seen the movie Office Space, but in the

1062
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: movie Office.

1063
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 9: Space maybe I did along.

1064
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's old movie, right, but there's

1065
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: the dude in it. The main character is at work, right,

1066
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: and they bring in consultants that are like trying to

1067
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: figure out what everybody does. And so if I'm sitting

1068
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: in your office right now at Assembly Hall and you

1069
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: and I've known each other a long time. Right, If

1070
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there in your office at Assembly Hall, I'm

1071
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: looking around the office, I'm looking at Ryan Carr, who

1072
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: I've known forever is now the executive director of Basketball

1073
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: at Indiana. And then this scene from the movie comes

1074
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: into my head, This question comes into my head.

1075
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 8: Here, what would you say you do here?

1076
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: So if I can say it so so point blank, Ryan,

1077
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: what exactly does executive director of Basketball at Indiana do?

1078
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: Tell me the primary responsibility you have and the day

1079
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 2: to day of what it is that you're doing.

1080
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, eight Number one is to help build the roster,

1081
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 9: help build next year's roster. So you know that that's

1082
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 9: going to be that is and that's going to be

1083
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 9: a huge, huge majority, vast majority of what I do.

1084
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 5: Be be somebody that has is able.

1085
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 9: To take all the experience I've I've had with with

1086
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 9: dealing with agents, evaluating players, putting teams together, and help

1087
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 9: Daron in.

1088
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: This staff, you know, figure out.

1089
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 9: Make decisions, help them and they're all awesome. Like, I

1090
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 9: couldn't be more impressed with my first day stepping in here,

1091
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 9: whether it's preparing the team for a game, the way

1092
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 9: the practices, go our meetings as a staff, just really

1093
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 9: impressed with all these guys and it's been a joy

1094
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Speaker 9: to get a chance to It's a it's an odd

1095
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 9: time to join a team toward towards to the end

1096
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 9: of a season, but they've been awesome and I think

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 9: there's been easy rapports.

1098
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: So do you have to figure out salary cap and

1099
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: salary caps the wrong word because they don't have that.

1100
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: But as part of it going out and saying, Okay,

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: I know that Scott Dolson or the ni L has

1102
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: a lot of us this amount of money, and I

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm the buck that decides who gets what amount based

1104
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: on what each player is looking for. Is that a

1105
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: fair assessment of what part of the job entails.

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01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't.

1107
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't see myself ever like that. What

1108
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 9: I see is we're gonna work together and we're going

1109
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 9: to use a ton of collective experience to figure out

1110
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 9: the best way to use what the what what we're

1111
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 9: allowed to spend on a roster and do it, you know,

1112
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 9: do it the best we can make, you know, try

1113
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 9: to get the best value where we can make sure

1114
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 9: we have the best player evaluations in making decisions of

1115
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 9: how we spend that to do it responsibly. Uh and

1116
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 9: and and in many many ways, it'll be a lot

1117
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 9: of the same conversations that we would sit around a

1118
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 9: table up and you know, outside Kevin's office and do

1119
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 9: multiple times a week, just going over different scenarios, talking

1120
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Speaker 9: through how the team fits, what are we lacking, what

1121
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 9: would we you know, if we do this, then what

1122
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 9: if we do that?

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Speaker 5: What do we need to do here?

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 9: Just a lot of a lot of scenario playing and

1125
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 9: speaking with agents and you know, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Will will you be recruiting?

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01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: So if that let's say that there are two point

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Speaker 2: guards and any atitudes to point guard, are you the

1129
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: guy that goes into the home or you the guy

1130
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: that simply says, I believe point guard A is a

1131
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: better fit for us than point guard B, and then

1132
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: you send your people to go get point guard A.

1133
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a good question.

1134
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 9: I mean, right now, coming in.

1135
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 5: Today, there's the rules.

1136
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 9: I'm not out recruiting in the future. There's a ton

1137
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 9: of things that that we're going to discuss and and

1138
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 9: figure out how best to use the skill set I

1139
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 9: have as well. So the job is, you know, Darren's

1140
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 9: been great we have have it. I threw so many

1141
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 9: ideas at him, and we're gonna I think we need

1142
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 9: to get through the season. Obviously, then the portal season

1143
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 9: comes quick. But I think once we once we get

1144
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 9: through that, we'll be able to kind of design.

1145
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 5: The rest of the job.

1146
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 9: I have some some real ideas that I think would

1147
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 9: be cool and uh and I could add a lot

1148
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 9: of a lot of value just from a you know,

1149
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 9: an experience standpoint coming from an NBA team, But.

1150
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 5: There's there's much of it.

1151
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 9: Will still be developed, uh, in particular, probably over the summer.

1152
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: What lacks with this team.

1153
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 9: The current Indiana Who's yours team? Yes, I mean I

1154
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 9: think you see it a bigger bodies, stronger bodies. I

1155
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 9: think they play extremely hard. I've been, like I said,

1156
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 9: like the handful of practices that I've been at.

1157
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 5: I love how hard they go.

1158
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 9: I love how hard they play. You know, I think

1159
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 9: that this team has at different times in the years

1160
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 9: that multiple people that have really shot the ball well.

1161
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 9: And I think that's when they've they've they've.

1162
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 5: Played the best. So I think that's over these next.

1163
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 9: Few games, you know, hopefully what what we can what

1164
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 9: we can do on the court, but you know.

1165
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: So I would think that's a priority for next year, right,

1166
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: is finding shooters that you that you then grow with

1167
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 2: fair to say.

1168
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 9: I think, yeah, I think coach debrees. You know, I

1169
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 9: think we've seen that he likes to have guys on

1170
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 9: the floor that can shoot and move the ball, and

1171
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 9: quite honestly, in a lot of ways his not not

1172
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 9: speaking current, but what we've talked about for the future

1173
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 9: is it sounds like he wants a version of a

1174
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 9: team of like what we had and what we have

1175
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 9: with the with the Pacers. You know, guys that multiple

1176
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 9: ball handlers, guys that can shoot, they play together, they

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01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 9: you know, they'll defend and and play really hard. And

1178
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 9: and that's obviously a vision that is very easy for

1179
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 9: me to jump both feed in on and have seen

1180
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 9: the workings and how we did it up there and

1181
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 9: the kind.

1182
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 5: Of attributes we look for. So you know a lot

1183
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 5: of it, like.

1184
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 9: I said, when we talked about basketball, was a natural fit.

1185
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: Are you.

1186
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Carr is my guest. He is the executive director

1187
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: of Basketball for Indiana. He is on the Java House

1188
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Colbrew Coffee guest line. Ryan, when you look at just

1189
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: the job itself and kind of this created position. I

1190
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: mean in the new era of college basketball. I guess

1191
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: one of the questions I have, maybe selfishly out of

1192
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: a friendship to you, would be, is this a job

1193
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: where you are attached with this coaching administration or is

1194
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: it a job that was created by the athletic department

1195
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: regardless of who the coach would be.

1196
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm working for coach degree. He is one hundred

1197
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 9: percent and I'm I couldn't be.

1198
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 5: More excited about that.

1199
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 9: Again, you know the discussions.

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01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 5: We had, the philosophy's him as a person.

1201
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 9: I mean, and then seeing seeing how he is in

1202
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 9: front of the team, seeing assistant's work, seeing him on

1203
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 9: the court. I mean, it's these guys are high quality guys,

1204
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 9: very good coaches, and I'm excited to work with him.

1205
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: Are you?

1206
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: This is a really dumb question. With all of the

1207
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: work that you did, come off three decades of that,

1208
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: right with with all of the work that you did

1209
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: and the meetings that you were in and the information

1210
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: you had and everything at your disposal from the Pacers

1211
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: standpoint of building up to this late in the year,

1212
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: will you still be some sort of a voice or

1213
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 2: a consultant for them through the draft process or through

1214
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: the off season process.

1215
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 9: That's a that's a great question. You know, I am

1216
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 9: very close to Kevin and Chad and Ted. I would,

1217
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 9: you know, and I would do I would help them any.

1218
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 5: Way I possibly can. So if if they.

1219
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 9: You know, obviously the majority of the season, I was

1220
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 9: doing my work up there.

1221
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 5: If if they feel like you know, they feel like

1222
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 5: that I could I could help.

1223
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 9: With an opinion or something, I would I would be

1224
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 9: more than more than happy to help them. They are again,

1225
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 9: like you know, to be in any position in any

1226
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 9: kind of athletics for three or four years, I think

1227
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 9: you're you would count that a blessing to be somewhere

1228
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 9: for you know, the last twenty three you know, I

1229
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 9: I love those guys. I've loved working with them. I've

1230
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 9: worked hard to serve them. And if yeah, I mean,

1231
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 9: if if they find my opinion, uh, you know, something,

1232
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 9: they'd be interested in the they definitely know that I

1233
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 9: would be there.

1234
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 2: For him that pacer roster, assuming that everybody's healthy next year,

1235
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: big if I realize. But let's just say for the

1236
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: sake of discussion, Halliburton comes back and it takes him

1237
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: a while, but he gets back into the form that

1238
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: that we've known and loved here in Indiana. When you

1239
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: look at that PACER's roster, if you were still part

1240
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: of the franchise, the ingredient that's missing that needs to

1241
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: be added as what.

1242
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 9: I I I don't know. I mean the Adam Zubach

1243
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 9: with Tie, with Andrew, with you know, Aaron with all

1244
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 9: the I.

1245
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 5: Mean with TJ with Pascal.

1246
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 9: I mean, you've got You've got all the ingredients you

1247
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 9: need to be right in the mix at the end

1248
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 9: of the season. Again, I don't think there's any anything

1249
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 9: I could say in terms of a whole or anything

1250
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 9: like that. That's a you knows to Kevin and Chad

1251
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 9: and Ted and and that whole team Spencer advance and.

1252
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 5: You know, I got to be a part of that group.

1253
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 9: And you know that that's a that's a super exciting

1254
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 9: team and fans I know, I mean just from a

1255
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 9: standpoint of up until you know, a few days ago,

1256
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 9: sitting in those corner seats, I mean, what an awesome

1257
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 9: thing for those fans, the way they've stuck with this.

1258
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 9: And I mean they come and they come and they

1259
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 9: cheer and they love them, and you know there and

1260
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 9: the guy I mean, I just think about like Obi

1261
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 9: has been out and he spends a ton of the

1262
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 9: game just like interacting with fans and sign autographs and

1263
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 9: taking pictures and just you know, like, but yeah, just

1264
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 9: kudos to to all the Pacers fans out there who

1265
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,919
Speaker 9: have who have stuck through this year and and believed,

1266
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 9: and h I.

1267
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 5: Hope that the Hoosier fans would.

1268
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 9: Will do the same as uh as we get get

1269
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 9: ready to are building this team into a high caliber

1270
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 9: team as well.

1271
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: Ryan.

1272
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: Lastly, if Indiana is to end up and when I

1273
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: say Indiana, I mean the Pacers, Okay, if they were

1274
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: to end up with one of the draft picks that

1275
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 2: they retain, which would be one through four, and I

1276
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: know that they could do so if they're in the

1277
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: latter half of the first round, but let's say, for

1278
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: the sake of discussion, they do get a one to

1279
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: four pick. Is it safe to say that the player

1280
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 2: they would be acquiring would be one that is an

1281
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: accentuation to their roster and probably not one that comes

1282
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 2: in and becomes a starter. Or is it that deep

1283
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: a class where that discussion can be had.

1284
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, you know, the Pacers team is so good,

1285
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 9: you know that that there's no pressure from any any

1286
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 9: player in the in the draft to come in and

1287
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 9: have to you know, shoulder a massive burden. I do

1288
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 9: believe that this draft is one of the best in

1289
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 9: all my years, you know, maybe by a margin. Like this,

1290
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 9: this draft, even during the years, seems to be getting

1291
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 9: better and better in the top ten or so, as

1292
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 9: players keep keep improving and showing what they can do.

1293
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: So does it have a clear number one.

1294
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 9: I don't think there's a clear number one, but I

1295
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 9: think there's a phenomenal like top group and and you know,

1296
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 9: you could.

1297
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 5: Debate exactly how it gets.

1298
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 9: Sliced up in terms of tiers or whatever, but I

1299
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 9: would say probably down to seven or eight. I mean,

1300
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 9: you're getting you're getting a player that in the right situation,

1301
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 9: can be an awful, you know, good difference maker in time.

1302
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 9: May not maybe day one, maybe you know, year two,

1303
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 9: year three, whatever, But but there's there's some special, special

1304
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 9: players in this draft.

1305
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 2: Lastly, Ryan, for you personally, you know, again and for

1306
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: those that don't know, maybe I should have mentioned it.

1307
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we knew each other in college, we were

1308
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: neighbors in college. We've been friends since college. I think

1309
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 2: most people know that that listen, to the program. But

1310
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: you know, I know what, and I think that when

1311
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: I was a kid growing up, I really felt like

1312
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: you had to be from Indiana to get Indiana. And

1313
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: then I saw you and met you and saw how

1314
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: much what is great about Indiana and the people of

1315
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: Indiana was instilled in you the same way. You know,

1316
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: from where you grew up and you came here in Indiana,

1317
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: you became a part of Indiana and vice versa. Right,

1318
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: So for you, what will the date be when you

1319
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: walk into Assembly Hall and look down and you realize

1320
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: you have the keys to every single door within that facility,

1321
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 2: and you can go into Coach Knight's old office, assuming

1322
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 2: it still looks the same, or the locker room or whatever.

1323
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: And when is the moment where it will actually hit you,

1324
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: where that doesn't continue to blow you away.

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01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 9: I think that's impossible. I think that you know for

1326
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 9: as many days is that I'm employed here just I mean,

1327
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 9: I just know that when I was a student, every

1328
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 9: day I got to walk in the building was a

1329
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 9: joy and and just I was humbled to be a

1330
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 9: part of it. And certainly the first I think this

1331
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 9: is my fourth official day on the job, it's every

1332
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 9: bit the same as uh, and it. I just can't

1333
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 9: imagine that that it won't.

1334
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 5: Ever be that way.

1335
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 9: I get the history of this place. Again I said,

1336
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 9: I didn't take this job for the nostalgia, But I

1337
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 9: get it. I know it like the back of my hand.

1338
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 9: I know so many of the principal players in it.

1339
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 9: I've I've got to know them personally, whether it's coach

1340
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 9: Knight and that and his family and or all the

1341
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 9: former players and these these people that you know have

1342
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 9: have built this place. And I get that, like I

1343
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 9: get it for me. Uh And I said this before

1344
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 9: this this is there's like I think part of the

1345
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 9: cool part of taking this job for me was there's

1346
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 9: no more worrying about what my next step is in

1347
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 9: my career. Could I get another job? Is there a

1348
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 9: promotion to get none of None of that. All that

1349
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 9: is taken care of. This is this is really a

1350
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 9: passion project to help coach Degrees and help help these

1351
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 9: guys in every possible way I can given all that,

1352
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 9: all that I've learned, And it's kind of crazy that

1353
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 9: college athletics would wind itself around to to really need

1354
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 9: somebody that's you know, that's been in the NBA for

1355
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 9: so long with the skills I've gotten, but this, this

1356
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 9: for me is I mean it, I'm so excited. I

1357
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 9: don't know if you can hear that, but I just

1358
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 9: it means the world that they would want me to

1359
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 9: come here and do this at this place that you know,

1360
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,520
Speaker 9: again circling back to the very start of our discussion

1361
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 9: that on a very throwaway decision for coach night, you know,

1362
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 9: he said, oh, yeah, sure, this kid you know can

1363
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 9: come be a manager and you know whatever, And for

1364
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 9: all these years later to come back in this position,

1365
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 9: in it with a chance to to help and serve

1366
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 9: this place and serve these people and and do everything

1367
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 9: I can to help.

1368
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 5: You know, this place win like we all believe that

1369
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 5: it should.

1370
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 9: And can, and it may not be overnight, and you know,

1371
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 9: it may take a little bit to get kind of

1372
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 9: the roster where we need to get it, because you

1373
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 9: can't be building entire teams out of the portal every

1374
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 9: year like like has happened last couple of years. It

1375
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 9: makes it very very hard. But we're going to get there.

1376
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 9: And I'm more confident today than when.

1377
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 5: I said yes to do this job.

1378
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 9: And yeah, I mean, you won't see me here without

1379
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 9: a SMA, oh my face. I mean the hard days

1380
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 9: are going to be a joy, and there'll be hard

1381
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 9: days and there'll be challenges, but I'm.

1382
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 5: So excited to do it. I love this place.

1383
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 9: I want to, you know, repay all those who have

1384
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 9: who have helped me.

1385
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 5: To even make this a chance.

1386
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 9: Like you knew me, Jake, Like at twenty years old,

1387
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 9: when we're you know, doing whatever we're doing, that was

1388
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 9: really pretty boring because neither of us really had a

1389
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 9: whole lot of fun. I mean, if you would have said, hey, Ryan,

1390
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 9: in thirty years you're gonna go back and you're going

1391
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 9: to be in a leadership role at that basketball program

1392
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 9: and have a chance to help help a coach succeed there,

1393
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 9: I mean you know what I mean, Listen, I would

1394
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 9: have said, come on, you would have I mean, if

1395
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 9: I would have.

1396
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: Said, thirty years from now, you're going to be the

1397
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: executive director of Indiana Basketball and I'll be interviewing interviewing

1398
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: you in India about it, we would have said, well,

1399
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: half of that might happen, and it would have been

1400
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: your half, not mine, right, No, I listen, And then

1401
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 2: I'd say, and at that point, I will have only

1402
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: been at iu alum for fifteen months, you know what

1403
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the part that was the most believable

1404
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:09,879
Speaker 2: of the whole equation.

1405
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 5: I agree, I'd actually agree with that.

1406
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 9: Well, thanks kudos for you and them for helping you

1407
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 9: finish that.

1408
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: That's right, well, Ryan, best of luck, man. I'm thrilled

1409
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: for you.

1410
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 2: I think that's obvious and I think it's a great

1411
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: story and we look forward to seeing what you can

1412
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 2: do down there. I appreciate the time, and we'll have

1413
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: you back.

1414
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 9: On all right, Yeah, anytime.

1415
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,919
Speaker 2: Thanks shake Ryan Carr, the executive director of Indiana Basketball.

1416
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 2: Quick tie on that, and then Terry Morrin's going to

1417
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: call in. They've actually got the women's side of things,

1418
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: Women's Big Ten basketball tournament. We have tickets to give

1419
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: away for that, do we not, Eddie?

1420
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 3: We do?

1421
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do that on the other side as well,

1422
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: and catch up a little bit here. I just got

1423
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: to thinking about something, Eddie. If we're giving away Women's

1424
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: Big Ten basketball tickets for the weekend at Gambridge field House,

1425
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: and Terry Moran, who is tipping off here in just

1426
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: under two hours, is potentially going to be coaching it.

1427
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 3: Why don't we have her give the tickets away. I agree. Okay,

1428
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: it's the smart thing you've come up with on this show, Jake,

1429
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 3: thank you do what I can.

1430
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 2: So we will do that with coach more and coming

1431
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: up in just a month, which would make it cool

1432
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: if you win the tickets, right. One thing I wanted

1433
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: to point out about Ryan Carr and one thing to

1434
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 2: take away from that. You know, and I mean this

1435
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: sincerely for anybody listening. We have all been in situations

1436
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 2: where you are humbled a little bit, and in the

1437
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: case of Ryan, working in a fast food restaurant in

1438
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: the morning cleaning parking lots to make ends meet. And

1439
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: there's so much right there in that lesson, in that story,

1440
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: because here's somebody that in the evening hours is going

1441
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 2: into pacer games and reporting to Larry Bird, and in

1442
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 2: the morning hours is cleaning parking lots of a fast

1443
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 2: food restaurant and Larry Bird who had worked in you know,

1444
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: worked as a trash man for a summer or whatever.

1445
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:04,440
Speaker 2: But the point being this, I think sometimes myself probably included,

1446
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 2: but Ryan and I when I look back on when

1447
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: we were in our twenties, this doesn't make us like

1448
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: great people. It doesn't mean that I'm not saying that,

1449
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: but there just was no opportunity that I ever looked

1450
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: at and totally rolled my eyes out or thought I

1451
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: was above because my value, I realized, was not in

1452
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: what necessarily I thought it could eventually be, but rather

1453
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 2: in that moment what was being offered to me and

1454
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 2: for young people that listened to Ryan's story, I think

1455
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: that is the most valuable thing to take away is

1456
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: that it's not about where you are in that moment,

1457
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: it's about how you're turning that moment into where you

1458
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: want to be. Terry Morin is going to be coaching

1459
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 2: Indiana women's basketball tip off three point thirty against Nebraska

1460
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: at Gamebridge, but we're going to talk to her next

1461
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 2: Women's Big Ten tournament getting underway Gamebridge Field House. Matter

1462
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: of fact, Indiana taking on Nebraska coming up just after

1463
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 2: we are off the air today and Squeeze I got sandwich.

1464
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: I very much appreciate because they're getting ready to get underway.

1465
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: She is the women's basketball coach at Indiana, of course,

1466
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: a former National Coach of the Year and a native

1467
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: of Seymour, Indiana. Terry Moore and joining us on the

1468
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: Java House Cold Brew Coffee Gas line. First off, coach,

1469
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: thanks so much.

1470
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: How are you?

1471
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm great, Thanks for having me.

1472
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: Hey this time of year, I'm always curious about this

1473
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: from a coaching standpoint, because you know, I love it,

1474
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: and I know that basketball junkies love the tournament aspect

1475
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 2: of it, but just the boom boom nature of it.

1476
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: How is it different preparing for this than the regular season?

1477
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, just you hit it on the head.

1478
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 6: It's just a turnaround time. But you know, you're you're

1479
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 6: looking ahead at the bracket and so you know, you

1480
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 6: get a couple of days prior to us, you know,

1481
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 6: leaving that you know, and you're you're trying to prepare

1482
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 6: for a couple teams, right, you know we know this

1483
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 6: obviously you get to prepare for Nebraska. But should we win,

1484
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 6: you know we're probably going to see a really good

1485
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 6: have a state team that loves to press. So you

1486
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 6: try to put some things into practice that you know

1487
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 6: that you're going to get past that first round. Our folks,

1488
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 6: total focus is on Nebraska, but you have to also

1489
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 6: be thinking about down the road, you know what, perhaps

1490
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 6: other things you may have to you know, see, and

1491
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 6: you're not going to have a lot of prep time

1492
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 6: in between and you're at home and you got your

1493
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 6: practice squad and they can simulate a lot of you know,

1494
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 6: the things we're going to have to uh, you know,

1495
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 6: play again. So you know, those are the things. You know.

1496
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 6: As a coach, you just you're always thinking ahead of Okay,

1497
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 6: what else? What are the things do we need to

1498
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 6: be thinking about outside of ore in addition to the

1499
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 6: team that we're going to play uh uh in Nebraska?

1500
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1501
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: One of the things one of the things coach that

1502
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: to me is interesting Terry Moore and is my guest,

1503
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: the Indiana women's basketball coach.

1504
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: I think those of us.

1505
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: In the media or fans in general look at coaches

1506
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: and we look at what the coach would deem as

1507
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: a successful season, and we judge it just based on

1508
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 2: the wins in life, and we don't finite the things

1509
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: that a team has to go.

1510
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 3: Through over the course of a season.

1511
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 2: You have a group that lost a really good player

1512
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: due to injury, and Saviahsoka and Gooman that gets hurt,

1513
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: goes down. You've got to kind of reinvent in a

1514
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: couple of ways. You have a long January where you

1515
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 2: go through and now all of a sudden. You come

1516
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: out of that situation, You've won three straight and you

1517
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: have other players that have stepped up a little bit.

1518
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: Are you proud of this group?

1519
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 5: Oh?

1520
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 6: No, no question, you know. And again we had you

1521
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 6: know Z for most of non conference, and then you know,

1522
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 6: she she gets hurt, uh, you know twice. Uh, and

1523
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 6: then you don't have her at all, and then, uh,

1524
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 6: you know, we have a little bit of a setback.

1525
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 6: You know, Shae Chesky, who by all the means is

1526
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 6: you know, had an unbelievable year. Uh, you know, tweets

1527
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 6: your anchor at Ankle at USC and we don't have her,

1528
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 6: you know, out in California. So this team has been,

1529
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 6: you know, through a lot of adversity, and adversity to

1530
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 6: your point that you know, the outside world pundons they

1531
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 6: don't even know. And you know, the one thing that

1532
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 6: has been consistent about this group is that they've stuck together.

1533
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 6: But they've also also continued to show up every day

1534
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 6: for practice and and and and have tried to do

1535
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 6: what we've asked them to do. I think they have

1536
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 6: gotten better, they've improved. I think they feel like they're

1537
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 6: playing some of their best basketball right now. And you know,

1538
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 6: it's it's it's just one of those things that I

1539
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 6: think happens in the nature of what we do. I mean,

1540
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 6: you know every year, you know what you talk about.

1541
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 6: You know, if we can get through this season without injuries,

1542
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 6: we have a shot, right, And you know, it was

1543
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 6: one of those years where we were a young team. Also,

1544
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 6: you know, we start two freshmen, three freshmen if you

1545
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 6: want to count Lene Beaumont, who's really a sophomore, but

1546
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 6: hadn't played any significant minutes. Neither had Ze. So this

1547
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 6: is a very very young basketball team. You know that

1548
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 6: we were you know, they were playing a lot of

1549
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 6: minutes and and then we had to do we endure

1550
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 6: some of those injuries, which was unfortunate. But yeah, it's uh,

1551
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 6: I'm really really proud of this group. And you know,

1552
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 6: those of us that sit in that fime room every

1553
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 6: day that are in that circle, Uh, you know, we

1554
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 6: we know what we've had to endure. Uh, And I

1555
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 6: think because of that, you know, uh, that's what's made

1556
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,520
Speaker 6: this group so connected, which.

1557
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: Is a bigger challenge as a coach. When you have

1558
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 2: let's say attrition, okay, and you've got to retweak a lineup,

1559
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: is it more difficult to change schematically based on the

1560
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 2: personnel now available to you, or is it a bigger

1561
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: challenge to get the to look at it and say, Okay,

1562
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: I've got a scheme. I've got to find the players

1563
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: to fit that scheme. Is it easier to get players

1564
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: to conform for the coach to conformer?

1565
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I think it's easier for me to

1566
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 6: have to, you know, tweak what our personnel looks like, right,

1567
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 6: And one of the things that I can run inside

1568
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 6: of what that personnel looks like, that's what That's what

1569
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 6: I'm referring to. So you know, certainly when I had

1570
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 6: z U, there were actions that I thought were really

1571
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 6: good for her, right that we could use. Because I'm

1572
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 6: a big believer in this. You have to have low presence,

1573
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 6: a low post presence for you to have an efficient offense, right,

1574
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 6: And so the one thing that d did give us

1575
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 6: was that low post or presence. The thing that's been

1576
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 6: unique about Odessa moving her into that starting position is

1577
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 6: that she's not really a low block back to the

1578
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 6: basket kind of player. She is more face up, she's

1579
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 6: more finess, and so because of that, I've had to

1580
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 6: sort of eliminate or readjust my my, my offensive place sheet,

1581
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 6: you know, to make sure that if there's any actions,

1582
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 6: it's not it's going to be what what what are

1583
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 6: what are Odessa's strengths? How can I set her up

1584
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 6: for success? And so yeah, we'd had a tweak quite

1585
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 6: a bit of things offense sively, and and so I

1586
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 6: think it's if anybody's had to adjust to it, it's

1587
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 6: been our staff and that and that's fine. I mean,

1588
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 6: we've we've found different ways to score the ball. And

1589
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 6: like you said, I feel like here is up late

1590
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 6: you know, Maya Muskolevski and they a cafe. I mean,

1591
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 6: they've really done a nice job as freshmen of really

1592
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 6: finding their niche for us and where they can help

1593
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 6: us score the ball. And so you know, you know,

1594
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 6: when you do it, as long as I've done it,

1595
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 6: it's a freshmen are going to continue to get better,

1596
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 6: right and and and even you know early on, maybe

1597
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 6: when they weren't in this, you know, scoring the points,

1598
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 6: you just knew it as a matter of time before

1599
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 6: they were going to find their way and find those

1600
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 6: spots where they could help us. And you know, here

1601
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 6: in the last probably two or three weeks, two of

1602
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 6: the both of them have have been unbelievably helpful in

1603
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 6: taking a lot of a lot of that pressure off

1604
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 6: of Shad because they're now looking to score the ball,

1605
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 6: you know, in in ways that you know suit them, right,

1606
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 6: They're not forcing anything. They're just kind of a let

1607
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 6: allow them the game to come to them. But they're

1608
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,879
Speaker 6: also scoring force, which is an added bonus.

1609
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: You just mentioned Maya Mikaeleski, which is you know from

1610
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 2: Hale and Southeastern. She of course a young player for

1611
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: you and has gotten some conference honors of late. What

1612
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 2: has facilitated I thought that really her growth here coach

1613
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 2: in the last month or so has been so big

1614
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 2: for you.

1615
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: What has facilitated that growth for her?

1616
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I think one of the things that

1617
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 6: you know, you have to remind your freshman is that

1618
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 6: it is a process, right, and there's a lot of

1619
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 6: things that they're going to get wrong before they get right.

1620
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 6: And so I think she's been one of those kids

1621
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 6: that has continued in the vey of both Right, you

1622
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 6: have to be coachable, you have to be willing to

1623
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 6: be coached, and you know, both of them have a

1624
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 6: great temperament. I mean I can coach them hard. Our

1625
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 6: staff can coach them hard, and I think that's really

1626
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 6: good because you know, if you can't, then it's really

1627
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 6: hard for those kids to to you know, you see

1628
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 6: any growth or to improve. And so you know, we

1629
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 6: got two freshmen, but Maya has really I think we're

1630
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 6: her biggest growth. We all know this, right, she could

1631
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 6: shoot it, but I think her biggest growth has come

1632
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 6: on the defensive side of the ball. Uh. And uh,

1633
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 6: you know that was one of the things early on

1634
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 6: that probably you know she wasn't in the lineup early

1635
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 6: for us. It was it was really just because of

1636
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 6: you know, she had to she had to improve defensively

1637
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 6: for us. And it's never on the ball. It's always

1638
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 6: away from the ball where the freshmen seem to have

1639
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 6: the biggest learning curve because at this level, you know,

1640
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 6: there's so many things that happened away from the ball

1641
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 6: that if you're not in rotation, you're not where you

1642
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 6: need to be. You get punished really fast. And and

1643
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: so what I'm proud of Maya is that she recognized

1644
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 6: that she was that was the one area that she

1645
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 6: had to improve on in order to get herself on

1646
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 6: the on the floor. And you know, throughout the last

1647
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 6: you know, two or three months, she's really improved in

1648
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 6: that area, which again has been another thing that's been

1649
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 6: very helpful to our team. And so I'm proud of

1650
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 6: her because you said, we coach your heart. She she

1651
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 6: you know, we love her up too, but we coach

1652
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 6: your heart. And she's really accepted the coaching piece of

1653
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 6: it and has tried really hard to improve and get

1654
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 6: better for us. But I mean, you know the ward,

1655
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 6: you know that she just got, you know, to be

1656
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 6: be named on the All Freshmen That says a lot

1657
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 6: about you know, her and what kind of a player

1658
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 6: and what kind of a bright future you know she

1659
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 6: has here in.

1660
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: The Bloomington Terry Morrien's group of seventeen and thirteen winners

1661
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 2: of three straight Coach, did you ever watch ted Lasso?

1662
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 3: By chance?

1663
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 10: Oh?

1664
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1665
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 6: I love Ted Laso? Yeah? Another yeah, yeah? What sees another? Uh?

1666
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 6: Whatever's coming out? Right? Another one?

1667
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 5: I know?

1668
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I feel like it's going to

1669
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 2: be three years now. Supposedly it's upcoming, but I'm just hoping.

1670
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll forget all the storylines by the

1671
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: time it airs, But maybe we'll have to just rewatch

1672
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: it right in order.

1673
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 3: To get ready for it.

1674
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: But the famous line in it is you got to

1675
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: have the memory of a goldfish. And I would imagine

1676
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: this time of year that's as important as any because

1677
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 2: if you survive in advance, but a player makes mistakes,

1678
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 2: you got a quick turnaround on it, and you've got

1679
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 2: to be able to just put that in the rear

1680
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: view mirror. I guess you got to kind of emphasize

1681
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: that to your.

1682
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 6: Players, right Yeah, Yeah, there's no doubt that you do.

1683
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 6: You know, we we've talked about that quite a bit,

1684
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 6: especially early on when we started our training, right, you know,

1685
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 6: talking about the mistakes are going to be made. It's

1686
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 6: not a perfect game, but making mistakes going as hard

1687
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 6: as you can. But I think also at this time

1688
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 6: of the year, you know, you have to have that

1689
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 6: yellow sign of you know, above, whether it's invisible or not,

1690
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 6: you got to believe right that you can, you know,

1691
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 6: come into this tournament and you know you've always got

1692
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 6: to you know, get past the first one to get

1693
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 6: to the next round. But you I like how we're

1694
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 6: playing right now. I like I think, like I said,

1695
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 6: I feel like our kids have a lot of confidence,

1696
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 6: which is good good, And I do think they have

1697
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 6: a belief that they are. You know, this is a

1698
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 6: new season, and I think they're looking at that, looking

1699
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 6: at it as an awesome opportunity, you know, for us

1700
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 6: to you know, win some games here in the next

1701
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 6: you know, several.

1702
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: Days again, coming up later this afternoon, Indiana, Nebraska to

1703
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: start things out big Big ten Women's Tournament Gamebridge Field House. Coach,

1704
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: we have tickets to give away for someone to be

1705
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 2: able to go and watch the Big Ten Women's Tournament,

1706
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: hopefully watch your ladies in person this weekend. We're gonna

1707
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: do it by giving it to a caller number. So

1708
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: i'd like to know coach Terry Moore, and will let

1709
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: you pick number one through ten. Give me your favorite

1710
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 2: number one through ten.

1711
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 6: My favorite number, it'll be caller number.

1712
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 2: Four, Caller number four. All right, there we go, caller

1713
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 2: number four, two, nine, ten, seventy. You are on your

1714
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: way to the Big Ten Women's Tournament. Coach, best of luck.

1715
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 2: Certainly appreciate it on kind of short notice here, but

1716
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: we wish you the best and look forward talking to

1717
01:30:58,800 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: you again.

1718
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 6: Thank you. I appreciate it again.

1719
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 2: Terry Moore and head basketball coach for the women's team

1720
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: Indiana University. All right, we played it for you earlier,

1721
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: jol Erickson joining us coming up, and that's the big

1722
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 2: news about Alec Pierce. He said some things of note,

1723
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 2: Just what was that yesterday or.

1724
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,759
Speaker 1: Today, Eddie. Today doesn't look good for the colts.

1725
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 3: We'll explain next. You may want to turn the mic on, Jake,

1726
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 3: I did. Your mic was not on.

1727
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

1728
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that your mic was not on.

1729
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 8: There.

1730
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: We could go back.

1731
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 3: We could pull the tape of me leaning over and

1732
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: pushing the button. We can pull the tape.

1733
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 8: I'm just telling you.

1734
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 2: But what I was saying wash. We ran a little

1735
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: long there, and I apologize. Usually we're pretty audit when

1736
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 2: it comes to the clock at the top of the hour,

1737
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 2: and so my and then I felt bad because I

1738
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: realized Erickson because he's you know, this guy's a pros pro.

1739
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 2: And my understanding is he was inside of he was

1740
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 2: enjoying himself some lunch at a Chuck E Cheese and

1741
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: it was very loud, so he stepped outside so that

1742
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 2: things would be clear for the phone call. And he's

1743
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 2: been waiting outside of the cold now for seven minutes

1744
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 2: for me to bring him on because he didn't want

1745
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: the mayhem at the Chuck E Cheese taking place inside,

1746
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 2: but he loves the pizza there. But then I thought

1747
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 2: about the fact that he's a Wisconsin I so this

1748
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 2: is basically, you know, this is Jamaica to him outside.

1749
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,559
Speaker 1: I mean, he's used to this crap, right.

1750
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 2: He joins us now from the Indianapolis Star on the

1751
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 2: Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line, Joel A. Ericsson, Joel

1752
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 2: you warming up? Okay outside the Chuck E Cheese.

1753
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 10: I'm I'm in the middle of this.

1754
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 8: Will this will interest you.

1755
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 10: I'm in the middle of changing the beer out from

1756
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 10: one beer fridge to a new beer fridge.

1757
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well, speaking of Wisconsin things, so wait, this

1758
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: is now in most places this means a little micro

1759
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: dorm fridge. In Wisconsin, it actually means one of those

1760
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 2: basically Woodman's size freezers that you put your beer in.

1761
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1762
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, we replaced.

1763
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 10: We replaced our actual fridge, and then the one that

1764
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,600
Speaker 10: we had is just going into the garage.

1765
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: Because who needs food?

1766
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 10: Right yeah, exactly exactly, Like it's a little bit upsetting

1767
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 10: whenever there's water in the beer fridge. You don't you

1768
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 10: don't even want that, Like it. It's supposed to be

1769
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 10: a sacred place.

1770
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: May I guess the two beers that you're putting inside

1771
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 2: the beer fridge?

1772
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 8: Absolutely?

1773
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: Are these both beers that are made in your home state?

1774
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 8: They are?

1775
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 1: This it's easier. Are both of them available only in

1776
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: your home state?

1777
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 7: They are.

1778
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm going with spotted cow, right, yep. And then I'm

1779
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 2: going to go with a variation here and say it's

1780
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 2: that one squirrel one.

1781
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 8: It's the squirrel one?

1782
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 6: Is it?

1783
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 7: Really?

1784
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 1: It is? You nailed it, Joel.

1785
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. This makes me a

1786
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 2: little uncomfortable speaking about comfortable. The Colts might be in

1787
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: an uncomfortable situation because Eddie, please, if you could queue

1788
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 2: it up Alec Pierce earlier today going on with upping

1789
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: Adams with k Adams, and I want you to hear this, Joel.

1790
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: I know you already have, but listen to what Alec

1791
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: Pierce had to say now about the upcoming free agency

1792
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 2: and potentially entering it.

1793
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 3: I love Indy.

1794
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 4: I've loved playing there, great organization, great people in the city,

1795
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 4: you know, just a lot a ton of support. I

1796
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 4: know we haven't been as good as we could be,

1797
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 4: and I know we can be but yeah, not at

1798
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:35,799
Speaker 4: this point kind of earned the right to explore free agency,

1799
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 4: see what's out there, make a decision that's best for

1800
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 4: my career and for my family.

1801
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 2: So, Joe, your thoughts on that. That sounds to me

1802
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 2: like a guy that even if the Colts make an offer,

1803
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 2: he's going to sit there and wait to see what's

1804
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 2: out there.

1805
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: Right.

1806
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that was really interesting because that's different from

1807
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 10: what the position that Alec Pierce has has traditionally taken.

1808
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 10: You know, most of his times here he has been Honestly,

1809
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 10: he's probably he's probably had stuff that he could say

1810
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 10: that he has decided not to just in terms of

1811
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 10: early in his career, guys not getting him the ball

1812
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 10: when he was open deep. He could have begged for it.

1813
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 10: He could have done some of that.

1814
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 8: And he didn't do it.

1815
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 10: But today today that sounds a lot more like a

1816
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 10: player who is finally, I guess deciding that you know,

1817
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 10: I've got some you know, this is my chance to

1818
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,520
Speaker 10: kind of have my individual look at things.

1819
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:37,719
Speaker 2: But Joel, it's in his best interest at this point,

1820
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 2: is it not, the reality is that Alec Pierce, as

1821
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: a free agent, seemingly his value has gone up each

1822
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 2: and every month because he is the pre eminent free

1823
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 2: agent at his position that's going to be in the market.

1824
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: And so if you're his agent, you're saying to him,

1825
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: absolutely create a bidding war here. Do not make it

1826
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 2: sound like team should not pick up the phone and call.

1827
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, everybody's ears per a cup

1828
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: and they're interested. What a do I guess do you

1829
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 2: agree with that? And b what do you think the

1830
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: number is that it's going to take to keep him?

1831
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 8: Well?

1832
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 10: You know, I I know from talking to people last

1833
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,839
Speaker 10: week in Indy just that there are lots of teams

1834
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 10: that kind of look at Alec Pierce and see somebody,

1835
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 10: you know that they want to have. You know, I

1836
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 10: had somebody from Kansas City said to me, you know

1837
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 10: that we've drafted like three guys trying to get somebody

1838
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 10: who can do what he does. New England is another

1839
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 10: one that I know is has been kind of sniffing around.

1840
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 10: There's there's other there's there's he's the number one receiver

1841
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 10: on the market. Dallas placed the franchise tag on George Pickens.

1842
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 10: So there's not even a question of which flavor do

1843
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 10: you like, It's it's it's just Pierce in terms of

1844
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 10: the top receiver on the market. And you know, I

1845
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 10: know Colts fans, there's there's sticker shocking free agency every

1846
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 10: year where I think for all of us we go, wait,

1847
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 10: we forgot the cap went up and that everything else

1848
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 10: is going up. But you know, there's there's a there's

1849
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 10: a chance that if you if he's on the open market,

1850
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 10: that he's pushing into that thirty million dollars a year range.

1851
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: How bad did the Colt screw this up?

1852
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got you couldn't get Jones inked, so

1853
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 2: you had to use the tag on him, which means

1854
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 2: you can't tag Pierce. Now, Pierce may I'm not saying

1855
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 2: he will, but he may leave and then Jones, if

1856
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: somebody else comes along to make an offer, then we'll

1857
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 2: see what happens with that. But this seems as though Joel,

1858
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to go this way, but

1859
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 2: it is. They have not eliminated the possibility of the

1860
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 2: worst case scenario.

1861
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, Ultimately, I think if you if you get to

1862
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 10: the end of this thing and you don't have either,

1863
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 10: like just pick one of them if you don't have

1864
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 10: and realistically You're not getting Pierce unless you get Jones.

1865
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 8: That's like, that's not gonna happen.

1866
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 10: He he, he is very not only is he close

1867
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 10: to Jones, but he's very aware of what having the

1868
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 10: wrong quarterback can do to him in his career because

1869
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 10: it's happened before. And so if if you don't get Jones,

1870
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 10: you don't get pierced. But if you only get one

1871
01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 10: of them, like, it's a mistake, Ballard, it's a huge mistake.

1872
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 10: Ballard said it outright last week. Daniel and Aleck are

1873
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 10: such big pieces and we move and fit from there.

1874
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 10: If you think about Shane Stiken's offense, like replacing Alec Pierce,

1875
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 10: it's not as simple as just going out and getting

1876
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 10: somebody else who can get deep, because not everyone can

1877
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 10: get deep like that. Think about all, like I said,

1878
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 10: just think about all the guys the Chiefs have drafted

1879
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 10: thinking they were going to have someone who could make

1880
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 10: explosive plays, even in an NFL that's geared to take

1881
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 10: those away. Like there's been dozens and dozens of draft

1882
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 10: picks by lots of teams and no one has really unearthed.

1883
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 10: And Alec Pierce, who because he's the only one who's

1884
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 10: averaged twenty plus yards per catch on a significant amount

1885
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 10: of catches over the last two seasons. He's the only

1886
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 10: one since twenty eleven. You take him out of this offense, well,

1887
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 10: then teams can play up on Tyler Warren.

1888
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 8: They can play up with Michael Pittman, they can play

1889
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:09,480
Speaker 8: up on Josh Downs.

1890
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 10: Even if you get Jones back, things get a lot

1891
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 10: more difficult. And you know, okay, you want to go

1892
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 10: draft one, that's great, But what if that guy takes

1893
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 10: a couple of years to develop.

1894
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 2: Let's look at what this means the transition tag. We

1895
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: went over this earlier today, but Joel, I want to

1896
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: clarify a couple of things with you. Okay, let me

1897
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 2: tell you my understanding of it, and then you, Joel Ericson,

1898
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: tell me if my understanding is accurate.

1899
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

1900
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 2: By placing the transition tag on Daniel Jones, what that

1901
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 2: means is that teams have up until July twenty second

1902
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: to make him an offer July fifteenth. Excuse me, I've

1903
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 2: read both actually, but it looks like it's the fifteenth.

1904
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 2: But they have until the fifteenth to make Daniel Jones

1905
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 2: an offer that he then takes to the Colts and

1906
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: says match it or I'm gone correct, Yes, okay, yes, and.

1907
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 10: The reality is the reality is if that offers coming,

1908
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 10: it will most likely happen early next week. Well the

1909
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 10: legal tampering windows open.

1910
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Okay.

1911
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 2: Secondly, if, for example, the Arizona Cardinals send an offer

1912
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,440
Speaker 2: sheet to Daniel Jones, let me give you a hypothetical.

1913
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 2: Arizona comes to Daniel Jones and says, we're willing to

1914
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 2: pay you fifty million dollars a year just because we're

1915
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: bored and we want to make headlines. So they offer

1916
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: him a three year, fifty million dollars per year contract.

1917
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 2: Does Daniel Jones still have the right to say, I

1918
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 2: don't like SPF forty five and I thought Raising Arizona

1919
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: sucked as a movie, so I'm not going to take it.

1920
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: Or is he bound to have to take the highest offer.

1921
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 10: I don't think that the offer goes to the Colts

1922
01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 10: unless it's agreed to, unless Jones and Grease Gotchakes less

1923
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 10: Jones says, hey, I this is the offer I want.

1924
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 8: Can you know the.

1925
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 2: Cults are made The cults are totally unaware of any

1926
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 2: offer that comes Daniel Jones's way unless it is one

1927
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 2: that he has agreed to.

1928
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 10: In principle, I would guess that there's probably some communication.

1929
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: But well, but you get what I'm saying. I'm saying

1930
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: for the sake of.

1931
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 10: They don't have to make a they don't have to

1932
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 10: make a choice until he decides, Hey, this looks pretty good.

1933
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 3: Okay.

1934
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: So then.

1935
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 2: Let's just say, for the sake of the discussion, that

1936
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 2: he does come to an agreement that he likes with

1937
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: another franchise. The Colts have until when to match that

1938
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 2: offer the fifteenth of July.

1939
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 3: Correct.

1940
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 10: I believe I can't remember with the exact how long

1941
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 10: they have the match it is.

1942
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: But or is it forty eight hours from the time

1943
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 1: that it's presented?

1944
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can't remember. I think it's fairly quick, actually, Okay.

1945
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 1: So and then the reality of.

1946
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 10: The situation is they'd have to decide really quick because

1947
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,799
Speaker 10: if not, who knows.

1948
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:04,839
Speaker 8: Who's going to be playing quarterbacks.

1949
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 10: You have to make a decision on it, you have

1950
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 10: to go after If you're not going to match it,

1951
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 10: you have to go find somebody else.

1952
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 2: Well, and that's why that's why this has potential to

1953
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 2: be literally like nuclear food bar seven days. They have

1954
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 2: to want so let's back this up. A team makes

1955
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 2: an offer to Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones likes that offer

1956
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 2: and agrees to it. He then has to go to

1957
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 2: the Colts and say, just so you know, I have

1958
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 2: somebody that matched with me on tender. And so they

1959
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 2: then say, okay, they have seven days to determine whether

1960
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 2: or not they are going to allow that match to

1961
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 2: happen or step in and match the offer. Now, the

1962
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 2: other question is this, do the Colts simply match the

1963
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 2: offer that comes the way to Daniel Jones and that

1964
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 2: is their right or do they still go into the

1965
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 2: open negotiation and try to add another year to it

1966
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 2: or whatever it may be. Or is that the deal

1967
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,520
Speaker 2: that is in place it was just written by another team.

1968
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 8: I believe they have to match. Yeah, I believe they

1969
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 8: have to take that deal.

1970
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:11,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So.

1971
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 2: Then this comes into play. The Colts in that situation

1972
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,520
Speaker 2: would not get compensation. That is part of the transitional

1973
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 2: tag that they did. For those that weren't listening earlier,

1974
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 2: transitional tag is one of three ways that you can

1975
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 2: tag a player. It comes at costing you a little

1976
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 2: bit less in the initial year. It is the top

1977
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 2: It is the average of the top ten players over

1978
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: the last five years at that position. In this case,

1979
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 2: it will pay Daniel Jones roughly thirty seven million dollars.

1980
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 2: That's about ten million dollars less than if they had

1981
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 2: simply franchise tagged them, which means they lock him inside

1982
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 2: of West fifty sixth Street and he cannot go to

1983
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 2: any other franchise. But they do not get any compensation

1984
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 2: with this level of transition tag, meaning there is a

1985
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 2: risk that if he walks out the door, they get

1986
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: nothing back in place. Is there the possibility, Joel, not

1987
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 2: the probability, but the possibility that a team plays chess

1988
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: against the Colts and makes Daniel Jones an offer that

1989
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: they don't necessarily have total interest in paying, but they're

1990
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 2: increasing the price that the Colts have to pay to match,

1991
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 2: so that then a player that franchise has an eye

1992
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:30,520
Speaker 2: on they can sign because they have concern that Indianapolis

1993
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,520
Speaker 2: has the cap space to sign that player away from them.

1994
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's definitely, you know, like that, that is a possible,

1995
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 10: That is possible. The probability of it is that you

1996
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 10: run the risk if you're that team, if you don't

1997
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 10: really want Daniel Jones at quarterback.

1998
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 8: At that price of ending up with them.

1999
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 2: Correct which and I still believe the example I used earlier.

2000
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 2: I totally believe this. When the Pacers made the offer

2001
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 2: to DeAndre Ayton and the Phoenix Suns matched it, the

2002
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Pacers would not have been completely beside themselves if they'd

2003
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 2: ended up with DeAndre Ayton, but their primary goal there

2004
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 2: was to increase the price tag that Phoenix paid for

2005
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 2: Aighton because there was another player in play. The Pacers

2006
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 2: were interested in that. They knew Phoenix was going to

2007
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 2: go after. I will go to my grade believing that.

2008
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 2: But that's the example I'm giving here, right.

2009
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, yeah.

2010
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 10: And the thing is, the thing is like it that

2011
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 10: is that is like, it's absolutely possible. I think it's

2012
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 10: probably easier with the position where, you know, it's probably

2013
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 10: an easier thing to pull off with a position where

2014
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 10: more than one guy plays at a time, you know,

2015
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 10: for a team to kind of kind of do that,

2016
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 10: because if you end up with the player, okay, well

2017
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 10: I can still you know, I still feel good about

2018
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 10: getting him on the field.

2019
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 8: And everything like that.

2020
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 10: But if you have a quarterback, then then it's a

2021
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 10: little bit harder because what if what if Indy doesn't match,

2022
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 10: and then you end up with two quarterbacks that both

2023
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 10: cost money.

2024
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 3: Now, Joel the other element of this too, Like, so

2025
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 3: if a team wanted to do that, for example, they

2026
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 3: would have to have the guaranteed money available at the

2027
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 3: time of the offer that was presented to Daniel Jones. Right,

2028
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 3: so if the Saints or whatever wanted to offer him whatever,

2029
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,919
Speaker 3: forty five million dollars, they would have to shed salary

2030
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 3: by the start of the league year, which is noon

2031
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,720
Speaker 3: from a week from today, so next Wednesday, they have

2032
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 3: to have that available when it turns noon on the

2033
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 3: new league year.

2034
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 10: Correct, Yes, but let me tell you if the Saints

2035
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 10: are the team it'll be available. I covered that team

2036
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 10: for so long and every year they have negative seven

2037
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 10: hundred million dollars at this point, and they always end

2038
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 10: up being able to sign people. They just you know,

2039
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 10: they push money in the future, they put void years

2040
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 10: on it. They find a way to get under it.

2041
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 10: So the Saints are an example of this. But there

2042
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 10: are two, Like there are ways to get under the cap.

2043
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 10: So you know, like you see Minnesota being interested in Jones,

2044
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 10: and everyone goes, well, they're forty five million dollars under

2045
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 10: the cap. How are they going to possibly clear that

2046
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 10: much space? Just it can be done. It can be

2047
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,679
Speaker 10: done by then, And it seems like it's really hard,

2048
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 10: but it's not that hard. You restructure three guys and

2049
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 10: you trade one guy and next thing you know, you

2050
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 10: somehow have forty million in cap space.

2051
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: Joel A.

2052
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: Erickson is the guest Indianapolis Star where you read his work.

2053
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 2: The Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line is where you

2054
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 2: hear him. Joel again, I'm a it wasn't raining when

2055
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 2: Noah built the arc, right, so you always got to

2056
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 2: think ahead. And sometimes I think the Colts, I said earlier,

2057
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 2: seems to me like the Colts have gotten into this

2058
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 2: habit where they're always reactive and never proactive. They just

2059
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: kind of wait for everything will work itself out. And

2060
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's going to be the case, but

2061
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 2: if they were to lose Jones and Pierce, it's defcon

2062
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 2: whatever number that is. That means like everybody's in the streets, like,

2063
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,560
Speaker 2: holy out, what do we just do in that scenario?

2064
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 2: Is there any way possible that Indianapolis goes to Anthony

2065
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 2: Richardson and goes, you know what, let's talk after all.

2066
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 10: I mean if if, if they somehow lose both of

2067
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 10: those guys, I.

2068
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,919
Speaker 8: Think any option is possible.

2069
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 10: Like you look at the options on the market, and

2070
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 10: you know, I think everyone goes well Kyler Murray would

2071
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 10: just would just immediately come here.

2072
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe not, Maybe she's signed somewhere else.

2073
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: Is Kyler Murray just kind of tu Anthony Richardson?

2074
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 10: He might, Honestly, he's probably more of uh like the

2075
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 10: it's just it's just a it's got it's some of

2076
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 10: the same flaws that make him a bad fit for

2077
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 10: I think Shane Steichen in the offense that Shane Styken

2078
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,799
Speaker 10: wants to run, but it comes in a different package.

2079
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 10: Like Kyler generally can run higher completion percentages. He's got

2080
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 10: a lot more production and a lot more experience.

2081
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 2: But did you ever see that movie Honey, I Shrunk

2082
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 2: the Kids I did? Yeah with Rick moranis that he

2083
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 2: used to work with him over at the Star right.

2084
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 10: Right right, yeah, Rick moranis, Yeah, that was that was

2085
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 10: when I was I think that was that when I

2086
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 10: was a kid he did that, or it was well.

2087
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Ten years before I was a kid, whatever, whatever.

2088
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 2: The solution was that that fella drank or poured on

2089
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 2: himself or whatever that that made him shrink. That's basically

2090
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,839
Speaker 2: if Anthony Richardson got into that potion, he becomes Kyler.

2091
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 8: Murray, right, well, except more accurate.

2092
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 1: No, I do like Murray. I think Murray's good player.

2093
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 2: Murray's a good player, But I'm saying some of the

2094
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: same things, right, like, you know, lack of preparation at times,

2095
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: accuracy issues, but but an uber talented and intriguing level

2096
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 2: prospect based on the athleticism kidding aside.

2097
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,759
Speaker 8: Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yep.

2098
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 2: But at any rate, if with Richardson, for example, I

2099
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 2: do believe that Alec Pearce and Jones, that Alec Pierce

2100
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 2: is keeping a very close eye on who it is

2101
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: going to be that throws him the football. If it

2102
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 2: turns out that and I'm only thinking worst case scenario here,

2103
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 2: If it turns out that Jones leaves and Anthony Richardson

2104
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 2: is the guy, is that enough to keep Alec Pearson place.

2105
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 8: No, I think Pierce is gone, So.

2106
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 2: You believe only Jones is the guy unless they go

2107
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 2: out and all of a sudden they're like the Colt's

2108
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 2: just acquired Josh Allen.

2109
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's got to be Daniel Jones, Right.

2110
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, from talking to people, from talking to people around

2111
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 10: Alec Pierce, you know, over the last couple of years,

2112
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 10: Like they're just they're very aware of well, honestly, they're

2113
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 10: very aware of what Pierce's reputation and the criticism he

2114
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 10: got here maybe after his second year with Gardner Minshew

2115
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:56,280
Speaker 10: when I can tell you there were like a dozen

2116
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 10: plays that year where he was open and he just

2117
01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 10: didn't throw it to him, you know, and obviously Alec

2118
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 10: Pierce's you know, people around Alec Pierce notice the same thing,

2119
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 10: and so they think, I think that's definitely high in

2120
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 10: their mind, is that this they know like they need

2121
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 10: to have the right quarterback is Trey hendricks The thing is,

2122
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,599
Speaker 10: the other thing is he's gonna sign this big deal

2123
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,240
Speaker 10: and there's gonna be you know a lot of guaranteed

2124
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 10: money to it. But if he wants to see the

2125
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 10: last couple of years of that deal, he needs to

2126
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 10: be with a good quarterback because guys get cut halfway

2127
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 10: into those deals all the time.

2128
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: Is Trey Hendrickson an option for the Colts?

2129
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 8: Yes?

2130
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:32,879
Speaker 1: Do you believe a strong candidate?

2131
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 10: I I yes, I would think so. Yes, that they

2132
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 10: were interested last year My understanding is that there's they're

2133
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 10: interested this year. There's gonna be there's gonna.

2134
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 1: Be a lot of people.

2135
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 8: I know they I know that.

2136
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 10: The defensive end, it's is, you know, if this team

2137
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 10: is going to get better, assuming that they get those

2138
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 10: other two back that we've been talking about, if this

2139
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 10: team is going to get better, the obvious place that

2140
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,440
Speaker 10: they have to get better is the pass rush, specifically

2141
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 10: the edge USh. And you know, Hendrickson would be kind

2142
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 10: of in that justin Houston vein of signing where you're

2143
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 10: getting a guy who's a little bit older, has had

2144
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 10: some injury concerns but also has a ton of production.

2145
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:17,799
Speaker 10: Bradley Chubb to me is like he's he's maybe the.

2146
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 8: The next what's the next level?

2147
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 6: That?

2148
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 8: Like Target?

2149
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 10: I don't know what the what's the whenever we make

2150
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 10: the store thing, it's hard to know what's what's the

2151
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 10: standard store?

2152
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 8: Like what's the best one?

2153
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're you're saying and versus what's the other

2154
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 3: word there?

2155
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 10: You know, like we always say this guy is the

2156
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 10: Walmart version, Well, what's what's the the standard bearer?

2157
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 8: What's that store?

2158
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: That's Target? I think Target? Right, No, it's Target.

2159
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 10: Okay, So so Bradley Chubb is like Walmart's He's like

2160
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 10: the Walmart version of Hedrickson because like he's just been

2161
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 10: hurt a lot more. When he plays he gets at

2162
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 10: least eight sacks, but he's been I think he's had

2163
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:53,759
Speaker 10: three seasons.

2164
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 2: So you're saying, Bradley Chubb's locker's got socks and sweatshirts

2165
01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 2: just all over the place in no particular orders.

2166
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, in an insanely long line.

2167
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Speaker 2: And he's number ninety six. Yeah that's right. Yeah, yeah,

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01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb. The thing about Bradley Chubb's past rush is

2169
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 2: there's ninety eight lanes that he could go through, but

2170
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 2: only one of them is actually open. So yes, this

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01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 2: is the perfect store for him. Yes, right, exactly, Yes,

2172
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 2: I think don't you think most people see Target? Nothing

2173
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 2: against Walmart, but isn't Target scene. It's just like a

2174
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 2: slightly tick higher. Oh yeah, it's like the jank, that's right,

2175
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just a little bit

2176
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: chi t is more than the target audience. Right yeah, Okay,

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01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 2: last question, Joel, what did you learn, if anything when

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01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 2: you left the combine after your experience there? What was

2179
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 2: the storyline that entered your radar or came on your

2180
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:49,640
Speaker 2: radar that you did not think was going to be

2181
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 2: one going into it.

2182
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 8: Well, I don't know that.

2183
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:00,640
Speaker 10: I I don't know that I heard a hun on

2184
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 10: the cult side that hadn't been mentioned or telegraphed. But

2185
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 10: you know this, uh, maybe I'm a prisoner of the moment.

2186
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 10: This this Alec Pierce interview with Kay Adams and and

2187
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,040
Speaker 10: all the stuff he said, and that that to me

2188
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 10: is maybe the thing that I didn't see coming just

2189
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 10: because he's he's never he's never really been the I'm gonna,

2190
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 10: you know, take take my own side in something. He's

2191
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 10: he's always taken the team side.

2192
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: So that's got a smart agent.

2193
01:54:31,120 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 8: Surprises me.

2194
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't it appear he has a smart agent?

2195
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 4: Right?

2196
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 1: And go on there and say, hey.

2197
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Listen, I you had your chance and now I'm going

2198
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 2: to see other people, right yep?

2199
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 10: No, yeah, yeah. Well that's the thing is, you know,

2200
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 10: it's if if someone gets We say this all the time,

2201
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 10: but it's very true when someone gets within the range

2202
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 10: of free agency, they get a lot less likely like

2203
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 10: in in you know, in baseball for example. In baseball,

2204
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,200
Speaker 10: for example, we talk lot in the NFL about like, well,

2205
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 10: this guy's got one year left.

2206
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 8: He's going to sign.

2207
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 10: If you let a guy in baseball get within one

2208
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 10: year of free agency, they will not resign under any

2209
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 10: circumstances because they know if they get to the open market,

2210
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 10: they're going to get a bigger offer.

2211
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 3: Oh, especially if they're a Scott Bors client. Like, there

2212
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 3: is no way a chance in hell a Scott Bors'

2213
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 3: client is signing any deal in the final year of

2214
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 3: a contract in the MLB. Uh, Joel, is there a

2215
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 3: number that's too high that the Colts won't match with

2216
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones.

2217
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 8: It's a great question. I Like, here's the thing.

2218
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 10: The Jones injury concerns are real and absolutely understandable, Like

2219
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 10: he has only played one full season of the NFL,

2220
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 10: and and that would make me back at giving, you know,

2221
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 10: an enormous amount of money. I thought that it was

2222
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 10: going to end up somewhere in If you look at

2223
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 10: Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield's contracts, they're almost exactly the same.

2224
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 10: And I thought that that's where we were headed. But

2225
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones, you know, speaking of the agents, it seems

2226
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 10: like he's pushing it further than that, and already he's

2227
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 10: higher average anal value by.

2228
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 8: Getting transitioned tagged.

2229
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 10: So that's kind of where I thought we were headed.

2230
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 10: The thing is, if they don't bring Jones back, it's

2231
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 10: just I think the question then is what's.

2232
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 8: The direction here? Because our whole, this whole off.

2233
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 10: Season has been framed by you know, we thought we

2234
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 10: were really good for the first ten games last year

2235
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 10: with that group of people in that offense, And if

2236
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 10: you don't get Jones and Pierced back, what are we doing?

2237
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 8: Like, what's going on? What's the plan?

2238
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 10: Because it to me, it invalidates what we thought the

2239
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 10: plan was going to be if you don't have those

2240
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Speaker 10: guys back.

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01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 8: You know, so.

2242
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 10: In a world where there's no Jones, I think I

2243
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 10: have a lot of questions that probably don't have good answers.

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01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, let me Joel. I'll wrap with this.

2245
01:56:55,800 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 2: You ready, If Alec Pierce is to sign, what's somebody else?

2246
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 5: Now?

2247
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 2: Who does your headlines over there at the Star? This

2248
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 2: is a little hidden talent that I've had for years.

2249
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 2: Who does your headlines?

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01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 8: Matt Newell? My editor usually handles mine? Yeah, because I'm

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01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 8: terrible out of it?

2252
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:10,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't it?

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01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Rick moranis at one time did he do them?

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01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:17,160
Speaker 10: No, no, no, it's always that's always been the Cold Sky.

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01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 2: So if Alec Pierce is to leave the headline simply

2256
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 2: would say piercing blow correct.

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01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 10: Well, See, the thing is that is really good, and

2258
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 10: I think that that's like the print headline. But in

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01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:32,760
Speaker 10: the age of the Internet, we have to have like

2260
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 10: that's to say Alec Pierce, and it has to say

2261
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 10: a bunch of other stuff so that when people search

2262
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 10: it it comes up first.

2263
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 8: It's kind of taking some of the fun out of

2264
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 8: the headline for me.

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01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, it's all about the clicks, man, right, It's

2266
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 2: all about the clicks.

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01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's all about it's all about the search stuff.

2268
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 10: So like some of the stuff, some of those you know,

2269
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 10: like the tabloid headline, like the really fun stuff to

2270
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 10: think about, Like if we if we put him in print,

2271
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 10: that's great, But like what I'm thinking about, trying to

2272
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 10: put one on for the online. We don't get to

2273
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 10: do that any work. It has to be it has

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01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 10: to be the full name.

2275
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 2: I think one of the great headlines I've ever seen

2276
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 2: is when Pat Cash won Wimbledon and he defeated von Lindall.

2277
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, nineteen eighty seven and the headline

2278
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 2: the next day said cash better than a check.

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01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 8: I still think that that's fantastic.

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01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 1: Brilliant, isn't it.

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll let you get back to stocking

2282
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 2: the beer fridge. By the way, I know that that's the thing.

2283
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 2: You know, somebody's from Wisconsin when the beer fridge stocking

2284
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:28,879
Speaker 2: takes two and a half hours, right.

2285
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know it's the labor.

2286
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 8: Of love, is what it is.

2287
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, sure, all right, Well we'll see if the

2288
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 2: beer fery needs to make a visit for you anytime soon.

2289
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: But we appreciate the time as always. Joel, you bet

2290
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:42,600
Speaker 1: we'll see it. Joel A.

2291
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 2: Erickson with the highlight of his day joining us on

2292
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 2: the program in the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line.

2293
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 2: We will come back and an introduction to an old friend.

2294
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 3: Next.

2295
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:59,560
Speaker 2: Okay, college basketball busy night tonight.

2296
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:01,120
Speaker 1: JMV is going to be out at Hinkle.

2297
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 2: He will be there until five point fifteen because the

2298
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 2: dog's in Creighton. Tip off at five thirty Indiana taking

2299
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 2: on Minnesota. That is a six thirty tip. You can

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01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:12,200
Speaker 2: hear the pregame beginning at five thirty on our sister

2301
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: station WIBC and the Boilers taking on Northwestern. That is

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01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 2: an eight thirty tip that is on the Big ten

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01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: network tonight, So a very busy slate of college basketball.

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01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you may have to go to the Bulldog

2305
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 3: or somewhere that's got enough TVs to watch all this time.

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01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Bulldog would be good place anyway, because Butler's playing right,

2307
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 2: and you got Pizza king over there by the way,

2308
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 2: and then all kinds of.

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01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 1: They got a great chili over there that's outstanding.

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01:59:41,120 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 2: Of course, a great option also simply ordering from Chicago's

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01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 2: Pizza mentioned to.

2312
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 3: You, or we could just go to Chicago's and then

2313
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 3: hit up you know wherever you'd like to go to sweep.

2314
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 1: From today Eddie bringing you some in right.

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01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 3: You're welcome.

2316
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, last year you one hour baseball bet?

2317
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, yes, I did. What's going on in the

2318
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,840
Speaker 3: background over there, you got a party going on in

2319
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 3: there with no see this studio is like a sauna

2320
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 3: right now, so I had to prop open the door

2321
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 3: and so you're getting a little bit of an echo

2322
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 3: from the hall.

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02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you won the baseball bet. For those that are unfamiliar,

2324
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 2: here's what we do. The Major League Baseball teams that

2325
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 2: are scheduled or slated or predicted on the gambling apps.

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02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 3: It was you, me and listener Chad last year.

2327
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: That's correct, to tally fewer. Here's how we do it.

2328
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 2: All of the teams that are predicted on the over

2329
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 2: under to have fewer than a five hundred season, fewer

2330
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 2: wins than eighty one. Then you can pick two of them.

2331
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:49,680
Speaker 2: Whoever has the cumulative highest number of wins between those

2332
02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 2: two teams is the winner. A year ago, I had,

2333
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 2: I believe the Athletics and the White Sox. I believe Eddie,

2334
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 2: you went with the Blue Jay and the Braves.

2335
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 1: Is that right?

2336
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:05,400
Speaker 2: No Blue Jays in Marlins? Yes, blue Jays clearly did

2337
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 2: it for you. I mean that was huge. Chad had

2338
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 2: the Reds I believe, right, and then neither the Braves

2339
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 2: of the Marlins. Now do we do a new caveat

2340
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 2: this year where you have to take one team from

2341
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:18,200
Speaker 2: each league?

2342
02:01:20,280 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 8: Well?

2343
02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 2: I did that so well, I know what I'm saying.

2344
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 2: But you weren't required. I know, Okay, we don't change

2345
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 2: the rules. Yeah, I believe if I'm not mistaken, And

2346
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:33,960
Speaker 2: it's harder to find this year than most frankly, which

2347
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 2: is weird, but I believe this year the teams that

2348
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:43,600
Speaker 2: would be candidates to be selected Colorado, Miami, Saint Louis, Washington,

2349
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Pittsburgh, the Athletics, Cleveland. Is it Anaheim or

2350
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 2: Los Angeles or California Angels.

2351
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:54,360
Speaker 3: It's the Angels.

2352
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 2: It's the Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles, Orange County, California. Right,

2353
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 2: and I think the White White Sox also are the candidates.

2354
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:05,400
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the White Sox over under.

2355
02:02:05,440 --> 02:02:08,800
Speaker 3: So funny you got the athletics, because what it's eighty

2356
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 3: one and a half, right, eighty one and a half

2357
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 3: would be over well, that would be the eighty one half.

2358
02:02:16,280 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 1: What's that?

2359
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 3: Eighty one and a half would be the cutoff right

2360
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 3: to anything under to eighty and under eighty and a

2361
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 3: half in under. So then you've got Arizona. Atlanta's eighty seven.

2362
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 3: What's Arizona? Arizona seventy nine and a half.

2363
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So Arizona counts.

2364
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:34,360
Speaker 3: The White Sox.

2365
02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 1: What's the white Sox?

2366
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:39,120
Speaker 3: They sixty seven and a half?

2367
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so white Sox are in there.

2368
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 3: Cincinnati is eighty and a half.

2369
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Cincinnati. Cincinnati is eighty and a half.

2370
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 3: The Guardians, there's seventy eight, and yeah, I'm not going

2371
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 3: to keep going through that, but you get the idea. Colorado.

2372
02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 2: I think we've listed most of them. Cincinnati, Arizona, the

2373
02:02:55,320 --> 02:03:00,120
Speaker 2: White Sox, Angels, Guardians, Athletics, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, Washington in

2374
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 2: Saint Louis, Miami, and Colorado. That's basically the gist of it.

2375
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 2: There are a couple of teams in there that surprised

2376
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 2: me a little bit. You're not used to ever seeing

2377
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 2: Saint Louis be in that mix, right, do you say

2378
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 2: San Francisco? Yes, you're not used to seeing San Francisco

2379
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 2: in the mix either. No, No, I might have to

2380
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 2: go with San Francisco just because of that lou seal.

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Speaker 3: You know, Saint Louis may be in the in the

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Speaker 3: running for the worst season this year's sports record.

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Speaker 2: That would be outstanding. But the thing is, while they

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Speaker 2: they might suck, but they are the smartest fans.

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Speaker 3: In base Tampa Bay. You forgot about them?

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Speaker 1: What are they at?

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Speaker 3: The Rays are seventy six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know they might lose a hundred games, But

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you that's the smartest one hundred

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Speaker 2: game loss fan base that you'll find in baseball.

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Speaker 1: They understand what it means.

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Speaker 2: They know when a guy bunts, they know they stand

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Speaker 2: in applaud because they know what that means.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't get tiresome at all.

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Speaker 2: Hearing that in Saint Louis out of their fan base

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Speaker 2: never ever get tiresome.

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Speaker 1: JMB is yet.

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Speaker 2: Hinkle Field House The Crossover brought to you by the

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Speaker 2: good Guys that Love Heating and Air Love dash hbac

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Speaker 2: dot com is the website three one seven, three five

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Speaker 2: three twenty one forty one. Lot to talk about, and

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Speaker 2: I got a feeling in an abbreviated show because they'll

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Speaker 2: be done at five p fifteen because Butler takes over

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02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 2: at five point thirty that John will have opinions and

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Speaker 2: we'll find out what the core of those opinions are about.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it next on the Crossover. Crossover brought to.

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Speaker 2: You by the good Guys that Love Heating and Air Love.

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Speaker 2: Dash HVAC dot com is the website. JMV is at

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Speaker 2: one of the great venues in all of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Hinkle Field House, Dogs and Creighton coming up later tonight

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Speaker 2: and yesterday. Now this is interesting because it sounds like

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02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:47,840
Speaker 2: you're near a vacuum cleaner, John, But Center Grove just

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02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,480
Speaker 2: left you a broom instead of a vacuum, right they did.

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Speaker 11: No, Actually, it's probably the heater. I think we're right

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02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 11: near the vents. It won't sound as loud once people

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02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,360
Speaker 11: start coming in here. But I don't think there's so

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02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 11: much you can do what the the heaters being right there.

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02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 11: But I will say this, Jake, So I got to

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02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 11: come in here tomorrow for some kind of final four

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Speaker 11: media thing where there's a media three point shootout and

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02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,760
Speaker 11: everybody out don't mind coming because these guys are blanked.

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02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:16,600
Speaker 11: I just got about forty five minutes of dead on

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02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 11: straight by myself out there shooting, and those that are

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Speaker 11: coming tomorrow they're blanked.

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Speaker 1: It's over now. Did my invitation get lost in the

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Speaker 1: maund for this deal.

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Speaker 11: I don't know. I just I was told by Ben

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02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 11: upstairs to be over here tomorrow at one o'clock. So

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02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:35,560
Speaker 11: I'm going to be over here tomorrow at one o'clock.

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02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 11: Maybe because you're on the air, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, well count your blessings, buddy.

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02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 11: I thought Jeff Rickerd maybe would ride his bike over here.

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Speaker 11: And shoot, but maybe that won't happen, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I actually I haven't shot in a while. But tell

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Speaker 1: me if this ever happens to you.

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02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 2: Yep, not all the time, but occasionally when I shoot,

2438
02:05:58,160 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 2: I can feel it in my rotator cuff.

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02:06:00,040 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 1: That's probably just old age, right.

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02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:03,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's no doubt.

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02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 5: You know.

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02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 11: I think we all when we get older and of

2443
02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 11: something that we do consistently, kind of if it wears

2444
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 11: you down, makes you tired, you're a little a little

2445
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 11: painful with it, you kind of develop a different way

2446
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 11: of doing it to try to stay away from the pain,

2447
02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:21,040
Speaker 11: and that that screws us over. But I did find

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02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 11: near the free throw line there was a weeper. Because

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02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:27,720
Speaker 11: you're a you're a driver race card, that driver broadcaster

2450
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 11: a weeper. There was a leak in the roof over

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Speaker 11: here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We got water coming in. All right, hey, water coming in?

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Speaker 1: What's your thought on this whole thing?

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Speaker 2: You know, since you were on the air last obviously

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02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 2: when you came on, we knew that Daniel Jones got

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02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 2: the transition tag. Now we know that Alec Pierce is

2457
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:46,440
Speaker 2: basically like, hey, you know what I mean, I owe

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02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 2: it to myself. They couldn't get medial done, So I'm

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Speaker 2: going to see what's out there. Is there a chance

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02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:52,280
Speaker 2: this thing goes food bar all the way around?

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Speaker 11: I think there's always a chance it's the Colts, right,

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02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 11: That's right. So I think you just gonna sit back

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02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 11: and wait for it to happen. I just like I

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Speaker 11: said said yesterday, Jake, without Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce together,

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02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 11: why are any of these people back.

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Speaker 5: By that point in time?

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Speaker 11: If you take that, yeah, you take that aspect away,

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02:07:13,160 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 11: and Carly ERSA. Gordon should have just gone ahead and

2469
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 11: reset absolutely everything. It is a needless thing to have

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Speaker 11: anybody really back. Of consequence, I'm not suggesting that even

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Speaker 11: if you get these two guys together that this is

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Speaker 11: championship level material. But let's just face it, this team

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Speaker 11: offensively from the reason why they're good Jake and the

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Speaker 11: reason why they sold everybody on Daniel Jones coming back

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Speaker 11: from injury and the first you know, eight to ten

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Speaker 11: weeks of the season, that's what they're selling. And if

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Speaker 11: you don't have Alec Pierce, you don't have that. Much

2478
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 11: like if you don't have Daniel Jones, you don't have that.

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02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:51,280
Speaker 11: So to not have this ironed out and understood by now.

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02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 11: They maybe maybe they do. I don't know if they're

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Speaker 11: worthy of the benefit of the doubt though, Jake, on this,

2482
02:07:57,320 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 11: we've been through too much right to just say, oh, yeah,

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02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 11: they're they're too smart to let this happen, right.

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Speaker 2: That's hard to argue that hard to argue it. What's

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Speaker 2: on the big program today?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think I got everybody from Butler over here.

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02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 11: I did see Phil Martelli Fox a little bit earlier.

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02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 11: We may try to get him in here. And obviously

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02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:15,879
Speaker 11: we'll have more on this Colts thing, and Rob Blackman's

2490
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:18,360
Speaker 11: up at Evanston. We'll get set for Northwestern and Purdue

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02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 11: coming up later on tonight with with Rob, and get

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02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 11: everybody set for all that is going on. It is

2493
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 11: a busy time of year and I'm at a great place.

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Speaker 11: I love Hankle, Jake.

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Speaker 2: It is no it's the best, absolute best. All right,

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02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 2: dogs and Creighton coming up five point thirty. John will

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02:08:32,040 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 2: set you up for it. Speaking of Phil Martelli, of course,

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Speaker 2: his coaching career has taken him to Saint Joe's, their

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Speaker 2: former athletic director, is now the commissioner of the Horizon League,

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Speaker 2: which kicks off Championship Week doing so at Carteva Coliseum

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Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis. And the new commissioner of the Horizon

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Speaker 2: League going to join us on the program tomorrow, So

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02:08:52,920 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 2: to Davey Hamilton to preview IndyCar in Phoenix, and of

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02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 2: course we'll recap everything that takes place in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Thanks again, Joela Ericson, Thanks to Ryan Carr and Terry

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02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 2: Mori and the Ryan Carr interview. By the way, if

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02:09:05,160 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 2: you want to know what that job entails, an IU

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02:09:07,240 --> 02:09:10,320
Speaker 2: that will be available on the website. I thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening to Quaring Company. John's up next,