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Speaker 1: and then you know, everybody's sitting here and they're trying

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Speaker 1: And you know, there were a number of things that

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Speaker 1: and respect why we are on Eddie. Am I correct

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Speaker 1: and saying that I'm on the YouTube page, but also

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well hold on, hold on, let me scoot up

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Speaker 1: and do this right now. Now, this sound, this sound

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Speaker 1: our female YouTube listenership skyrocketing from two to four just

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that that I'm here, right here,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of laid out actually everything that took

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Speaker 1: Like what we saw good rhythm, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: Which is hard to believe, Alec Pierce, that this is

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Speaker 4: That's it, right, stuff like that, run, run deep, run fast,

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Speaker 3: think we very much at all do that.

433
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Speaker 4: I feel like there's some teams you watch and they

434
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Speaker 4: might they might, like you said, it might be more

435
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Speaker 4: of a when you get a little bit more connected,

436
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 4: or or it might just be different philosophies with different coaches.

437
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: But for us, I feel like it's pretty detailed. We

438
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 4: do have some like some stuff, you know, where it

439
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 4: does get a little bit more you know, option based

440
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 4: and kind of more like feel and you can go

441
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Speaker 4: kind of either way with it. But it's all pretty scripted.

442
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Speaker 1: It's not really What is the difference between catching a

443
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Speaker 1: pass from Anthony Richardson and catching a pass from Daniel Jones,

444
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Speaker 1: just in terms of release point, the break point when

445
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: they hit you. Yeah, tell me the difference of the two.

446
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't say. Honestly, I don't know if I

447
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,959
Speaker 4: really feel much of a difference, Like I I almost

448
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 4: have to consciously like, look, look before the player after

449
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Speaker 4: the play, be like, because I honestly won't even really

450
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 4: notice the difference because right now Rvier is, you know,

451
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 4: and and team are out there rotating. Obviously Team, I

452
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 4: hear it in the huddles. I know who's talking then,

453
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 4: and I see who it is. But if you're out there,

454
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 4: Rva is like, you might catch a ball and I

455
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 4: have to look back, Okay, who threw that one there?

456
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: Because I think they throw pretty similar balls, you know,

457
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 4: and and that's a compliment to both of them.

458
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Speaker 1: Alex Peerce is our guest. Colts camp getting underway today.

459
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Speaker 1: We're at Grand Park up here in Westfield. A big

460
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Speaker 1: year for you obviously, from let's be real a financial

461
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 1: standpoint here, right when you're when you're in a contract year.

462
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Speaker 1: The mindset of that as a professional as what.

463
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Speaker 4: I mean, for me, everything's always been just taking things

464
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 4: day by day. Yeah, that's kind of just the way

465
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Speaker 4: I live life. And yeah, so I just try to

466
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: focus on camp, you know, focus on coming out here,

467
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 4: seeing what I can do every day, you know, continue

468
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: to prove to the coaches, prove to the quarterbacks, proved

469
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 4: to myself, you know, just earn more reps, earn more

470
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 4: balls in the game, and stuff like that.

471
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Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of how I attack things.

472
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Speaker 1: But if you look at it, so you've started forty

473
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Speaker 1: one to forty nine games right in three years and

474
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Speaker 1: a year ago, I think you took a big step

475
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: eight hundred and twenty four yards, you know, seven touchdowns. Clearly,

476
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Speaker 1: I think at that point it's like, Okay, Alec Pierce

477
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: is a part of this offense and a part of

478
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Speaker 1: what you want to go towards moving forward. So based

479
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Speaker 1: on that, isn't there a part of you that says,

480
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: what's the hesitation, Let's get this done.

481
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think there's a lot of a

482
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Speaker 4: lot of complications that goes into things, you know. I mean,

483
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Speaker 4: I think it's like that's up to the front office

484
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 4: and all those guys.

485
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Speaker 1: But yeah, but at the same time, I'm not trying

486
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Speaker 1: to do double band coverage here, right, I'm not trying

487
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Speaker 1: to impress coverage. But from your standpoint, wouldn't it be

488
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: would there be a piece with it of knowing you know,

489
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: I know that, look, you got to be confident what

490
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Speaker 1: you can do. But at the same time, there would

491
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Speaker 1: I would think that there would have to be some

492
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Speaker 1: sort of a pressure that comes off if you know

493
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Speaker 1: that you're locked in going into the year as opposed

494
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Speaker 1: to again still playing for that for another season.

495
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm sure that would that would

496
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Speaker 4: be a pressure is taking off.

497
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Speaker 3: But I don't know. To me, I look at things.

498
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: You earn your keep, You earn your way every single day,

499
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: so I don't view it as like any more extra pressure.

500
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: I think it's just like every day, here's a blessing

501
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 4: and you got to just keep on working on that.

502
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Speaker 1: By the way, you look like you've been running like

503
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: ten miles a day and lifting weights regularly and you're

504
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: a little bit tan. I want to know what the

505
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: off season regiment is here?

506
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I'm I'm outside all the time, so that

507
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 4: that helps with the ten But you know, just work out.

508
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 4: Usually would hit the field first and then go lift

509
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: some weights, and then afternoon probably go play golf or

510
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: something if if I got people around there wanted to play.

511
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Speaker 1: What is the in all honesty, Alec Pierce, what is

512
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Speaker 1: the off season regiment, especially for a receiver, because I mean,

513
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: conditioning for everybody is a big deal, but for you,

514
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: obviously speed all of that that goes into it when

515
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: the season is over with, You've got to let your

516
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: body rest. Then you got to keep your body in shape.

517
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of a balancing act there. Can you

518
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of walk me through what life is an NFL

519
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: player is like in non NFL season?

520
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, for me, I feel like I usually

521
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: right after the season, I've gone on like a big

522
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 4: trip the past two years, so kind of get away,

523
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 4: probably give myself about a month of not doing like

524
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 4: not even thinking about football in terms of like working out,

525
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 4: and you know, I might go I might go hit

526
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 4: some like yoga or something pretty light like pilates, but yeah,

527
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not really even like lifting weights at

528
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Speaker 4: And then probably once once like February comes along, or however,

529
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Speaker 4: like you know, a few four weeks after the season,

530
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Speaker 4: I'll probably start doing some like weightlifting, but depending on

531
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Speaker 4: how the body's feeling, just more so just attack, like

532
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 4: just making sure my body's feeling good. So probably more

533
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 4: like weightlifting and less like like cutting and stuff like that.

534
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: And you know how long into that month vacation is

535
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: it before you feel normal?

536
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: Uh? Honestly, I feel like I've learned.

537
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: I learned this year, Like I think the time off

538
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 4: is not the not the best thing for you. I

539
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: think it's like I think it would be better to

540
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: stay active and are like just go like light light activity,

541
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Speaker 4: and I I do because I was like I went

542
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Speaker 4: on vacation.

543
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Speaker 3: I was very like active as you know. Where'd I

544
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Speaker 3: went out to.

545
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Speaker 4: I went out to Japan and then Thailand and Singapore,

546
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Speaker 4: so I was all over.

547
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of flights.

548
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, like we out there in Thailand were like

549
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: hiking through the jungle basically, like so we're moving around,

550
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: We're at the beach, we you know where.

551
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: So this humidity is nothing for you, right right.

552
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 4: It was like this every day there. So yeah, that

553
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: was that was a good time. I actually wanted with

554
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Speaker 4: a couple of teammates.

555
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: So Daniel Jones was talking Alec Pierce just a couple

556
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: of minutes ago as a matter of fact about kind

557
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: of getting to know this roster and talked about you

558
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: guys getting together I think in California and just the

559
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: importance of acclimating to one another aside from the field.

560
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: Your takeaway from that.

561
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: Was what, Oh, it's huge.

562
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: I mean I'm such a firm believer in that. I

563
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: even going back to college. I just know, like my

564
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: college team was so tight. Everyone was such good friends

565
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: with each other and just like such such great cambaraderie

566
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: between the team. So I think what we did this

567
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: year this offseason, just even though it was a pretty

568
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: quick trip, you know, able to get in some work,

569
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: but then just really kind of connect with each other

570
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 4: outside of football, outside of you know, the building, because

571
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 4: I noticed a lot of guys I got a lot

572
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: closer with on that trip who might be a little

573
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: bit more closed off on the building because they might

574
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 4: just not feel comfortable outn't know, such as like like

575
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 4: a big one was Tyler Warren. Like I didn't get

576
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: a word out of him during OTAs I introduced myself,

577
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 4: and I think he was just very much like focus.

578
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: You know, he's probably stressed trying to figure out the

579
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: offense stuff like that. But once once we went out

580
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Speaker 4: to Cali's, he's a good time.

581
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Speaker 1: How big does he become though offensively for you guys,

582
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: because he can kind of get that middle area of

583
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: the field where defenses have to be honest about that, right, yeah,

584
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: and that kind of theoretically that brings you up right.

585
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: For sure for sure.

586
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 4: No, I think having you know, tight ends are such

587
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: valuable pieces of offense as you know, you you look

588
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: at across the league, like a lot of teams you know,

589
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: just do such great things with the tight ends. So

590
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: I think it'll just only make our better offense better.

591
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: What was your favorite sport growing up?

592
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: Football?

593
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: What's your best sport?

594
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: Football? That's a I mean, it's I was very I.

595
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: Was it's coming out here.

596
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: There's another one that I was good at volleyball, and

597
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: I was good.

598
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: I was good at track too, but.

599
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: I would think track could be really good.

600
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: Now.

601
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: Volleyball is interesting because men's volleyballs. I mean, that's that's

602
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: NonStop action man for sure. You know what I mean.

603
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: Like that the athleticism that goes into that. You also

604
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: went to Wrigley recently, right, Yeah, so tell me about

605
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: the Wriggley experience because was awesome.

606
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

607
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 4: I grew up a grew up a die hard Clubs fan,

608
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: so probably was my favorite, you know, professional sports team

609
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: out of any team. So I went out there. I

610
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: got the opportunity for the first pitch back in April.

611
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 4: It's actually really fun. I brought a bunch of teammates

612
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 4: up there because we had it was kind of like

613
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: the same thing as going out to Cali as like

614
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: good little weekend tripped OTAs you know early OTA's it's

615
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: like everyone's back. I'm like, hey, guys, you know I'm

616
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: I'm I'm from around there, so I kind of know

617
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 4: the city. So I was like, let's go up here.

618
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: Let's grab an airbnb and just have a you know,

619
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: fun weekend there. We can go to nice dinner. You

620
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: got to do Wriggleyvill right, yeah, we got We got

621
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: there Wriggleville. After there were so many people there's a

622
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: good times.

623
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: How many people realized when you were out in wrigleyvill

624
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: just too exactly.

625
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: They were in Wrigleyville with uh, I do I do

626
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: a pretty good job of blending in, but they did.

627
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 4: They gave me, uh, they gave me a jersey that

628
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: said fourteen Piers on it. So I think, uh, I

629
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: think when people saw that like that, you know, it

630
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: blends in because everyone's got the the white and blue

631
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: pinstripes on. But I think if people really really looked

632
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: at it, they might have noticed.

633
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: The Now, most importantly, on the first pitch, did you

634
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: go for a legit first pitch or just do a

635
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: toss because people get in trouble with this.

636
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 4: So I I I kind of got in trouble, I

637
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: think because I I was gonna go with the heater

638
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 4: and I was further than you think. Yeah, I was

639
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: working on the heater, and but they brought out the

640
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: mascot and he had just like a he had like

641
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: a cartoon glove. It is like a four foot glove

642
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: on and he's got the the thing on his head,

643
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: yeah Clark. So he's got the he's got the head on.

644
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 4: So like I'm like, can you really see? And he's

645
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: got that huge glove. So I kind of I kind

646
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: of lobbed it a little bit more, and I think

647
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 4: I mean Kanti said a Clark. Clark stepped back. He

648
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: gave me a bad he got it. He's got to

649
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: get glove on. I think he backed up. He kind

650
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Speaker 4: of like, let it. Let it one hot. But I

651
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Speaker 4: think he could have got the glove to it. Okay,

652
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Speaker 4: so you little low, it's a ball Low.

653
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Speaker 1: You threw out the first pitch. Josh Downs, your teammate

654
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: did say on this radio station that you are the

655
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Speaker 1: best player on the roster in one particular sport. What

656
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Speaker 1: sport was it?

657
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: He probably said golf.

658
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: He said golf.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I much just I mean, it's your your

660
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Speaker 4: Haniel Jones would like to argue with that handicap is

661
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Speaker 4: what six?

662
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Speaker 1: Solid?

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00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Solid? Right?

665
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't we don't have the we don't have

666
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: the best golfers here were working on it.

667
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Speaker 1: So you're the best golfer by default? Is that what

668
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Speaker 1: you're saying?

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Speaker 4: I think, I mean, I don't know, and I've gotten

670
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: a lot better this year, but I just say I

671
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: was probably about a ten handicap last year, and maybe the.

672
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Speaker 1: Best ball players have no excuse. You got that, like

673
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: you got it so much time, correct right it greatly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. You can't.

675
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Speaker 4: The thing about football, that's like talking to my brothers

676
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: a basketball player. I talk about this all the times,

677
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: like I can't run routes for for five hours a day,

678
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: every single day. It'll be like, I don't, I don't

679
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: even know what would happen with your body at that point.

680
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: You you're gonna you're gonna hurt yourself. So it's like

681
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: you go out there and you're if you're hitting the

682
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Speaker 4: field right and doing like a receiver work like you

683
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Speaker 4: don't need you can't ever be out there for.

684
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Speaker 3: One, like an hour, hour and a half, like you're

685
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Speaker 3: gonna your body's gonna be done.

686
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Speaker 1: You can wear it down?

687
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: Can you can wear something about that?

688
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: Honestly? Like, like you look at the NBA and the

689
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: number of and obviously in this town, I mean achilles injuries.

690
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: I hate saying it, but there is discussion that perhaps

691
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 1: that's coming from over use in the off season. Now,

692
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Speaker 1: is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard? Or do

693
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Speaker 1: you think there could be some legitimacy to that? Oh man,

694
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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor.

695
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: Doctor, I mean you got I think you got to

696
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Speaker 4: look at like the the past and maybe you know,

697
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: like how how that injury has increased or if it's

698
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 4: kind of stayed the same over these years, because I mean,

699
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Speaker 4: and and then just compare it to like how much

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Speaker 4: they practice and do offseason stuff compared to the in

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Speaker 4: the past.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It's probably hard to to kind of correlate those two.

704
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Speaker 1: Your brothers a basketball player last year. Did you at

705
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: least become a Pacer fan in the last couple of months?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm fully on the Pacers bend wagon. Yeah,

707
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Speaker 4: I'd say I'm definitely a Paciers fan man. These past

708
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: two years have been super fun. Got an opportunity to

709
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: go to a bunch of games, especially those playoffs games.

710
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Speaker 1: So you know those guys at all.

711
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Speaker 4: I don't know them a ton I've met. I met

712
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Speaker 4: Obi and James Johnson out on the golf course one time.

713
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Speaker 4: That was, uh, those are the only guys I think

714
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: I've ever Oh, and I met I've seen Ben Sheppard

715
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: around a few.

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Speaker 1: Times, better golfer of those two, which one I don't know.

717
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Speaker 3: I wasn't playing with them, but I've I've heard that. Uh.

718
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Speaker 3: I heard James Johnson is really good.

719
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Speaker 1: Really you have had a partial artist, you know that?

720
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. He sounds like he's like you know,

721
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: jack Aw Trades. I was like, you do everything.

722
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: But uh, I think he said he's j T or rookie.

723
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: I said, he's like like cousins or second cousins or something.

724
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: So you have to ask him about it if if

725
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: you get him, because I he told me that James.

726
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Speaker 1: James Johnson's in the same situation as you. Right, there's

727
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: there's question contract, not not that, there's a question if

728
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: you'll be back.

729
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so is he a free agent right now?

730
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: He is, Well, he's got to bring the rosters full

731
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: and so then they've got to create some space there.

732
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's tough.

733
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Speaker 1: But so I guess actually the last thing would be this,

734
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Speaker 1: James Johnson is a blue guy for the Pacers. He's

735
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Speaker 1: one of those guys that he doesn't have to be

736
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Speaker 1: on the floor to make his impact. Yeah, that player

737
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Speaker 1: for the Colts is who.

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Speaker 4: Taekwon Lewis, Maybe Taekwon Lewis or I'm trying to think

739
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 4: of a guy. That guy just like great locker room presence,

740
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Speaker 4: Taekwan's probably a good a good pick, uh, I would say,

741
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: would say Ashton doing But I mean I think ashes

742
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: is very important to our team and and a lot

743
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: of aspects. Also a jack of all trades guy, right, yeah, yeah, exactly,

744
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: So there you could be could be Ashton Dolon kind

745
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: of you know, kind of the thankless jobs and stuff.

746
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, I know that's a guy that if you

747
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: really really know football and you really watch the tape,

748
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: he's one of the best at what he does in

749
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: the NFL.

750
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: So a year ago, three hundred or excuse me, eight

751
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four yards thirty seven catches over the

752
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: course of the year seven touchdowns and again entering year

753
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Speaker 1: number four her to believe that for Alec Pierce, alex

754
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: appreciate the time, certainly, wish you the best of luck

755
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: in camp and most importantly good health to you. And

756
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: then the contract status as well, that's luck on how

757
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: that plays out. We'd love to have you stick around.

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00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Alec Pierce here on the program coming up,

760
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: may try to check in with check in with our

761
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Speaker 1: buddy Zach Ostraban Osterman to find out yesterday some of

762
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Speaker 1: the things that Kurt Signetti had to say from an

763
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Speaker 1: Indiana football standpoint. Adam Alexander is going to be on

764
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Speaker 1: the television call for the Brickyard four hundred coming up

765
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Speaker 1: on Sunday. He's going to join us two o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: as well as we roll along here from Grand Park

767
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Speaker 1: in Westfield, Colts Competition Quarying Company here on the fan. Okay,

768
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: let's get you caught up on what has been taking

769
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Speaker 1: place here over the course of today at colds Camp.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ostram and Oscherman going to join us coming up

771
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes from now. Indiana Football yesterday, Ur Signetti

772
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Speaker 1: once again as he does, making some interesting comments, in particular,

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Speaker 1: how does Indiana football compare and fit in as a

774
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: member of the SEC. Well, we'll tell you about that

775
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: coming up when Zach joins us in about fifteen minutes.

776
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: But here is the nuts and bolts, if you will,

777
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: the who, what, where, why, and when of Colts Camp.

778
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Grand Park in Westfield is where I'm broadcasting live currently.

779
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Practice resumed for the Colts after the long layoff with

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Speaker 1: this practice number one and the newest and first installment

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Speaker 1: of practice for the twenty five season here at Grand Park.

782
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: It got done about eleven, just shortly after eleven o'clock today,

783
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: and there were highs and lows at the quarterback position.

784
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: You can't read too much into it after one practice, obviously.

785
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen said afterwards that, in particular with Anthony Richardson,

786
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Speaker 1: that he saw some things from Anthony Richardson that he

787
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: considered to be very positive. Take that for what it's worth. Obviously,

788
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as well. Jones did throw an interception today. Again,

789
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: read into that as you may, whatever that may mean.

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that you can overly evaluate or assess

791
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: anything through one practice, but you can at least get

792
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: some feel for what takes place from a personnel standpoint.

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00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: When the Colts first went out on the field, the

794
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: quarterback under center was Daniel Jones, but that alternated with

795
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: pretty severe regularity. Severe is the wrong word. That alternated

796
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: with regularity, and so essentially, when it comes to the

797
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: starting reps, Daniel Jones Anthony Richardson kind of a wash

798
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: if you were trying to figure that out. And in

799
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: addition to that, in terms of the consistency, the same

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00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Jones through an interception, had a couple of throws he

801
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: probably would like to have back, had a couple where

802
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. The same with Anthony Richardson. He

803
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 1: had one throw which probably will be posted on social media,

804
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: where he overthrew Moiley Cox, but he also had several

805
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: where he hit receivers in stride. The significant thing about

806
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback battle would probably be the fact that both

807
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks when they were going out were taking their snaps

808
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: from Taylor Bordolini, who I think we can say is

809
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: going to be the starting center. I thought personally Bordolini

810
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: did a really nice job a year ago when he

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Speaker 1: was put in the center position. Danny Pinzer would be

812
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: the other one vying for that spot, but Bordolini was

813
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: handling the center duties today almost exclusively. There were a

814
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: couple of arrant snaps and handoffs, you know, that kind

815
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: of thing, but that comes with timing and over the

816
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: course of time. Chris Ballard, for as much as he

817
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: has been criticized in the past, notably you know, I've

818
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: been critical of Chris Ballard at times, in particular with

819
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: some of his drafting and reaching on drafts and things

820
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: like that. But if there's an area where he does

821
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit, I think one of them

822
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: is in in every general manager since the beginning of

823
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: time touts themselves as being somebody that knows and understands

824
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: the trenches and is good at building in the trenches

825
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: and believes in the trenches. And that is an area

826
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Speaker 1: where Chris Ballard truthfully has been pretty solid and been

827
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: pretty strong. I think that he has built nice depth

828
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: in their offensive line, in particular over the course of years.

829
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Speaker 1: I mean, Bernard Ryman was a bit Yeah. Has he

830
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: had some swings and misses, of course everybody does, but

831
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: he has had a few picks that at the time

832
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: were eyebrow raising and they panned out for him. Bernard

833
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Rayman would certainly be one of them who I think

834
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: may be joining the show this week. We'll see on that,

835
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: but he has certainly become what we expect to be

836
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: a long term pillar at the left tackle position on

837
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: the left side of the line. And Bordolini is one

838
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: that I think is going to be a good player

839
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: for them, and with obviously moving on from Ryan Kelly,

840
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: gives you some stability and they saw that today. The

841
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: other thing that happened today of note, and again one

842
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: practice does not a season make. Obviously are aware of

843
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: and know that. But one thing that did happen today

844
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: was the fact that at the cornerback position their draft pick,

845
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: and we had him on the show, Eddie, if I'm

846
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: not mistaken, we had Justin Wally on the show very

847
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: shortly after he was drafted. Correct, maybe within the week

848
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: of the draft. We did a really likable personality, right.

849
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very energetic and you can see why, you know,

850
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Chris Baller called him a pit bull, I think yesterday

851
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: when he met with the two days ago or whatever

852
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: it was, when he met with the media at the

853
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: started training camp, and they're very excited and with the

854
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: next pick or whatever they call Behind the Colts or

855
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: whatever they call that YouTube series that they've got going,

856
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: and you could tell that how much they really like him,

857
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: and it just sounds like and feels like he's a

858
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: lou An Arumo type corner. Jake and I know we

859
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: were talking about position battles and whatnot, and it felt

860
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: like Jalen Jones had the head start on that starting

861
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: outside cornerback spot next to Travarious Ward. But Stephen Holder

862
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: pointed this out that you have to remember that this

863
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: is a different region, it's a different defensive coordinator, and

864
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: you don't know what he's going to want from his cornerbacks.

865
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: And he went out and they went and got Javarious

866
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Ward for lou Ana Rumo. And then they go into

867
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: the draft and they take Justin Wally, they trade up

868
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: for him, and they find the guy that they really like.

869
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: And now there seems to be a quarterback competition between

870
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Jones, Justin Wally, and Juju Brandts for that second

871
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: outside corner spot.

872
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: And right now, Justin Wally is the guy that, again,

873
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: one practice does not a preseason nor even a season make,

874
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: but Justin Wally is the guy that was getting the

875
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: majority of those reps today, So he started out did

876
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: the young rookie corner. He started out as the guy

877
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: that they turned to right away and was working with

878
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: the first unit. So that is something certainly to watch.

879
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: And as Eddie just mentioned there, Jalen Jones the other

880
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: one that was rotating in with him, but Wally was

881
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: getting the majority of those snaps, and Chris Ballard spoke

882
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: very favorably of him yesterday and talked up just how

883
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: much he likes that young player and believes in what

884
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: he might be able to do for them. Tyler Warren

885
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: is a guy that you know we're going to see

886
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: a lot of no question about it. You just start

887
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: Alex Pierce talking about him. I think Warren is starting

888
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: to kind of introduce himself, if you will, to the offense.

889
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: And afterwards, when I was able to listen in on

890
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: and sit in on the press conference, you know, we

891
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: were getting ready to talk to Alec Pierce, so I

892
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: couldn't necessarily get a complete ear on everything that Shane

893
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: Steikin was saying. But Shane Steikin's takeaways from today, Number one,

894
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: he was at least publicly positive about what they were

895
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: trying to do. He did say that one of the

896
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: things that they really want to work on this year

897
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: is they went back and in the offseason in particular,

898
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: they realized that the percentage of NFL games that are

899
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: now being decided within the final two to three drives

900
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: are increasing year by year, and Shane Steikin felt like

901
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: this Colts team was not where they needed to be

902
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: in terms of that precision late in games and handling

903
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: kind of frantic moments, and so they're trying to create

904
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: throughout this camp those hurry up moments. Those moments were

905
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: quick decisions have to be made and you've got to

906
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: immediately be reactive. That's something that they want to work

907
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: on more now than perhaps they did a year ago.

908
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: And he did say with lou Anarumo, one of the

909
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: things that he liked was that defensively, he feels like

910
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Ana Arumo in particular, is going to put a lot

911
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: of pressure on, for lack of a better phrase, the

912
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: back half of the defense, so the defensive backs and

913
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: the back area of the defense, that he is going

914
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: to create different looks for that group and have them

915
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: move around a little bit based on what they are

916
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: seeing offensively and what they're hearing from the linebackers, and

917
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: that is going to create a learning curve for the lingo.

918
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: The sets, the positioning of where they need to be.

919
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Those are some of the things after just one practice

920
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: that were discussed today after the Colts were on the

921
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: practice field. Outside of that, there really was not a

922
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: whole lot that jumped out as water cooler conversation. But

923
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: that's kind of a starting point on what we're going

924
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: to be watching here over the course of this camp

925
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: and what we will talk about over the course of

926
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: today as well. Yesterday, Kurtzignette, he made some interesting comments

927
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: about Indiana football and the SEC. What's the connection our

928
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: buddy from the Indianapolis Star, Zach Asterman, thank you, Eddie

929
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: joins us. Next, it is not the Eagles that were flying,

930
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: but rather the Colts, because what do they say after

931
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: every single practice in the NFL, guys were just flying

932
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: around Megan Plays, flying around Megan Plays. Although I didn't

933
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: hear that so much today. It was just practice number

934
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: one for the Colts. Grand Park up in Westfield. The

935
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: location here on a very warm but admittedly pleasant day,

936
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: nice little breeze coming through, a little bit quiet. Now

937
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: it will pick back up tomorrow at ten o'clock in

938
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: the morning, joining us now on the always busy and

939
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: once again available to be sponsored guest line. He is

940
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: our friend for the Indianapolis Star. He is the athletic

941
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: beat writer for IDIAA University. Talking about Zach Osterman. Osterman

942
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: that joins us, although we now know it's Osterman because

943
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: we have the recording of it. That's correct, right, Eddie,

944
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: if you hit that aster, that is correct. Yeah, Zach

945
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: joining us now. Before we get to Zach, Kurt Signetti

946
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: and his comments yesterday and how it relates to the

947
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: SEC for Indiana Football. So terically speaking, I will simply

948
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: say I did not know until recently that Liverpool, England

949
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: is amongst your favorite cities in the world, And after

950
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: having visited there, I concur entirely it is really nice

951
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: and I was surprised. I don't know that I mentioned

952
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: this when I came back. But the stereotype, like from

953
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: the Beatles era of Liverpool, and certainly this might have

954
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: been the case in the early sixties, was that it's

955
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: like this gritty, bloody knuckled, blue collar shipping yard town

956
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: and yet a lot of the neighborhoods of it to

957
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: me reminded me of the near north side of like Meridian,

958
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: Kessler or even Lockerby area of Indianapolis. I thought it

959
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: was extremely quaint, friendly and it was a day like

960
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: today when I was there, so it was very very pretty.

961
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: I thought, really really a cool town.

962
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah I don't. I mean, and people I think will

963
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: know I'm a fan of Liverpool Football Club and that's

964
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: obviously kind of how I found the city. But I

965
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 5: get a lot more excited now when people tell me

966
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 5: they're visiting Liverpool than when they want to talk about

967
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 5: the club, because I mean, a lot of what you

968
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: said there is at least sort of broad strokes.

969
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 6: True.

970
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: It was a very blue collar town. Obviously, was a

971
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: very sort of shipping heavy town for a lot of

972
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 5: its modern history. But even then, you know, a lot

973
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 5: of that wealth was kind of centered in a small class,

974
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: and so it's always had a real sort of working

975
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: class part, very defiant, very outward looking, which is kind

976
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: of unusual for the country of England. You know, for

977
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 5: a long time, English policy was to make the world England.

978
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 5: Liverpool has never really never really felt that way. It's

979
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 5: always reflected the world much more so than its own country,

980
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: and you get that from just the wonderful blend of cultures.

981
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 5: There's incredible food, incredible nightlife, incredible architecture. Right there on

982
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: the river you have you know, just right there, well

983
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: not just on the river, but if you go just

984
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 5: a little bit north on the sea as well. And

985
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: it's not too big, so it's very walkable. People are

986
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: very friendly. It's very easy to have a great night

987
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: out in Liverpool. It's I mean, I went over for

988
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: a match in twenty seventeen and I always tell people

989
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 5: I went over for a football match and I came

990
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 5: back in love with the city. So anybody who needs it,

991
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 5: I know there are Disney planners out there. Anybody who

992
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 5: needs a Liverpool planner, I'm your man. I've already got

993
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 5: a I'm already I'm already formulating for a buddy who's

994
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 5: covering the British Open next year at Robe Birkdale. So

995
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: I'm already the wheels are already in motion for that one.

996
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 5: I'm happy to get anybody else in itiner a.

997
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: If they need it. Yeah, it's cool. It's a very

998
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: cool town. All right. Let's get to what Kurt Signette

999
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: said yesterday. I thought one of the things that was

1000
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: interesting and I wanted you too, and I hope I'm not.

1001
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: You know, we did not pre plan on our conversation here,

1002
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: so but it was via one of your stories. And

1003
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I think that I saw that Kurt Signetti said this.

1004
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: I thought Kurt Signetti had an interesting comparative to Indiana

1005
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: football and the SEC, and by that I mean Zach

1006
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: not necessarily in where they are like competitiveness or whatever else,

1007
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: but rather just in terms of formula and strategy of

1008
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: scheduling and the way that Indiana because there's been a

1009
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: lot of discussion about the drop of Virginia on the schedule,

1010
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: and I thought Kurt Signetti made an interesting point when

1011
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: talking about some of the elite level programs in college football,

1012
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: and notably he pointed out the SEC and the way

1013
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: that they do things and that he liked that blueprint.

1014
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: Can you elaborate for our listeners on exactly what the

1015
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: strategy is from Indiana's standpoint for scheduling.

1016
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, So rewind back to twenty twenty three. This was

1017
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: when Tom Allen is still the head coach. Indiana bought

1018
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 5: out of the last two years of series with Louisville,

1019
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 5: and its reasoning was will make up the money and

1020
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 5: then some by scheduling home games, winnable home games, you know,

1021
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 5: the games that have turned into scs or maybe you know,

1022
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 5: group of five home games. And at the time, Indiana

1023
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: was pretty open about just saying, of course, you know,

1024
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 5: expectations were different then that it was just trying to

1025
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 5: create a path to being more consistently competitive, basically making

1026
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 5: it easier to get into bowl games and to build

1027
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 5: kind of a firmer foundation underneath the program and recognizing

1028
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 5: that football success is kind of the ultimate form of

1029
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 5: agency in modern college athletics. Scott Dalson knew he needed

1030
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: to make it easier in a nine game Big ten

1031
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 5: schedule world or it said football coach to map out

1032
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 5: a postseason past fast forward to where we are now,

1033
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 5: no one would have seen Indiana become a playoff contender,

1034
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 5: a playoff participant, and therefore, you know, kind of a

1035
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: bit of a I don't know, I guess in some

1036
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 5: places a strong man or a punzie bag. Because of

1037
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 5: Indiana's scheduling philosophy, Kurt Signetti was asked about it, I

1038
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 5: think in a sort of widely public way for the

1039
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 5: first time yesterday because recently Indiana also bought out of

1040
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 5: a two year series with Virginia, which was further on

1041
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 5: the line. Indiana also dropped a trip to Yukon off

1042
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 5: its schedule a few months ago as well, and Signetti

1043
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 5: said that philosophy predated me, but I signed off on

1044
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 5: it when I came in because I think it makes sense.

1045
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: A lot of the criticism has come from our friends

1046
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 5: down south, who have I think been I think probably

1047
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: turned Indiana into a bit of a lightning rod for

1048
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: their complaints about the Big ten of the playoffs. Just

1049
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 5: in general, we don't have to rehash all of the

1050
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 5: nine win Alabama versus eleven win Indiana from last fall

1051
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 5: for everyone to kind of remember that. You know, the

1052
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 5: SEC seemed to sort of chafe at the idea of

1053
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 5: an interloper without as many signature wins, you know, jumping

1054
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: over an Ole Miss team that lost to Kentucky or

1055
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: an Alabama team that lost to Vanderbilt and SEC. You know,

1056
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 5: critics and the SEC and elsewhere have said, you're not

1057
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 5: challenging yourself at all the non conference you know, that's

1058
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: that's that's weak, that's cowardly scheduling. Kurt Signetti's point is

1059
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: the SEC only played the conference games. Now, culturally, the

1060
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: SEC has resistant going to nine in part because there are,

1061
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 5: unlike the Big tents, a lot of historical rivalries that

1062
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 5: are out of conference. Georgia plays Georgia Tech, Florida places

1063
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 5: Florida State. You know, South Carolina plays Clemson, Kentucky, Louisville,

1064
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 5: and so forth. But Signetti's point is that's just a

1065
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 5: ninth Power five game or Power four game on your schedule.

1066
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 5: We already play nine because we play a nine game

1067
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 5: conference schedule. We're already where you're going to just by

1068
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 5: playing these rivalry games or just by setting up you know,

1069
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 5: maybe a non conference game Texas Michigan or something like that.

1070
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 5: And the point he made, excuse me, the point he

1071
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 5: made is if you look at the other three games

1072
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Speaker 5: on the average SEC non conference schedule, they look just

1073
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Speaker 5: like what Indiana's non conference schedule looks like and what

1074
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 5: Indiana's strategy looks like. And he dropped that. Signetti kind

1075
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: of one liner about we thought we'd just go in

1076
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Speaker 5: an SEC scheduling philosophy. I mean, you know that there's

1077
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 5: a little bit of the Steve Spurrier in that we

1078
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 5: know Signetti likes a touch of dry humor. But his

1079
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: point was, we're already playing nine Power five games. You

1080
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: play nine. The average SEC school played nine Power five

1081
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: games too, and then does generally what Indiana does with

1082
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 5: the other three games on its schedule. And really what

1083
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: he was trying to say is, and he articulated it well,

1084
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 5: and of course nobody listened to it, because Twitter grabbed

1085
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 5: one sentence and went nuts, is there is a need

1086
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: for scheduling uniformity across college football. And there are different ways.

1087
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 5: That's all aside from kind of meet in the middle

1088
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 5: on that. But as long as we have some conferences

1089
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: that play eight and some that play nine, and some

1090
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 5: that have you know, this set of priorities, and some

1091
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: that have this set of priorities, and we don't know,

1092
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 5: we don't even have a settled format for the playoffs,

1093
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: everybody's just gonna kind of have to do what they

1094
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: think is best for them. And his point was Indiana's

1095
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 5: schedule in the average year, if you just wipe off

1096
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 5: you know, what games or conference games and what games aren't,

1097
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 5: doesn't look that different to the average SEC.

1098
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 1: Schedule, you know, when you think about it, Zach, let's

1099
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: be real here, if you were going to play an

1100
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: outside like a Power five pre conference opponent, you would

1101
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: almost have to make it. It's difficult to do five

1102
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: to seven years out. I think that's the biggest challenge.

1103
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: But whether you're Predue, Indiana, whoever it may be, wouldn't

1104
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: it be whove you to only schedule an opponent that

1105
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: if you were to lose to them, it would not

1106
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: be a demerit per se and hurt you really in

1107
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: terms of your ball elegis you know, your ball standings

1108
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: or seatings or even playoff contention if you're Indiana or

1109
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: where Purdue ultimately would like to be. But in other words,

1110
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: like a Virginia and I admire it and appreciate it

1111
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: and liked having a Virginia on the schedule. But the

1112
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: reality is if you beat Virginia, people go okay. But

1113
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: if you lose to Virginia, then it's like WHOA Like

1114
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: bad loss for the playoffs or whatever else. But if

1115
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: you go with a Texas A and M or A.

1116
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to think of another school that

1117
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: you know falls into that same level of category. Yeah,

1118
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: give me what you know what I mean? Like, in

1119
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: other words, if you lose to them, it's not a

1120
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: huge demerit.

1121
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 5: Indiana's got a series on the books with Notre Dame

1122
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: for I think it's twenty thirty and twenty thirty one.

1123
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect example. I don't think.

1124
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: Anything's decided that far out for IU yet, but my

1125
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 5: sense from asking around is there's a lot more appetites

1126
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 5: keep that on the schedule, right, I think to the

1127
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 5: point that you're making, which is win or lose, that

1128
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 5: is a game that has value if you are trying

1129
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 5: to build a competitive resume, whether it's to make the playoffs,

1130
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 5: whether it's just to be I mean, frankly just to

1131
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: just to be a serious football team. You know, eight

1132
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: nine wins plus that is a game that has value

1133
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 5: to your point. You know, Virginia maybe would in two

1134
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 5: or three years, maybe it wouldn't you know. In Indiana

1135
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: scheduled that Louisville series, if I'm remember incorrectly, it was

1136
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 5: right around the time Lamar Jackson was at Louisville, so

1137
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: Louisville looked like a really formidable opponent. Then Louisville kind

1138
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 5: of post Lamar Jackson freightered under Bobby Petrino and had

1139
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 5: to recycle some things and then get Jeff brom and

1140
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 5: now Louisville's on the upswing again. And if you know,

1141
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: if Indiana had played like Scott Saderfield Louisville, maybe that

1142
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 5: means something. Maybe it doesn't. On the other hand, if

1143
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 5: Indiana had played and beaten Louisville on the road last season,

1144
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 5: it would have meant something. It would have been something

1145
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 5: very meaningful to their playoff resume. We probably wouldn't be

1146
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 5: having this specific discussion. But that's the difference. That's why

1147
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 5: the series like Notre Dame, I think there's more appetite

1148
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 5: for that then there is Virginia certainly than there is

1149
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: you know, a Yukon on the road something like that. Now,

1150
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 5: to your point, it's hard to make all those pieces

1151
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 5: fit into place because you know, everybody wants to do

1152
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: their schedule six seven, eight years out. Well, what happens

1153
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 5: if you try to play I don't know Ole Miss,

1154
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: And right now ole Miss is a great program. But five, six,

1155
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 5: seven years from now, Lane Kiffen has left for Alabama

1156
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 5: and they've gotten a couple highers wrong and ole Miss

1157
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 5: has winning three games a year in the SEC. Then

1158
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 5: it suddenly doesn't feel quite so impactful. But then to

1159
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 5: your point, you lose that game against the three win

1160
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 5: SEC team, and that really impacts your resume. So I

1161
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 5: mean it's it's again. This is where we get back to.

1162
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: As long as every conference is kind of looking out

1163
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 5: for itself and doing its own thing, and the ACC

1164
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 5: and SEC are at eight, the Big twelve and the

1165
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: Big ten or at nine, we're going to wind up

1166
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: with these conflicting scheduling philosophies. And then and Chris again

1167
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 5: talked about this a little bit too. You're asking the

1168
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 5: selection committee to judge teams from different conferences that have

1169
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 5: been handed, you know, markedly different paths to the college

1170
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 5: football playoffs sort of, let's sing. Hold, you're asking the

1171
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 5: committee to evaluate them the same way. It's a little

1172
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 5: bit more difficult.

1173
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: Zach Osterman is our guest from the Indianapoli Star talking

1174
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: about Indiana football yesterday. Kurt Signette talking to the media.

1175
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm curious of this, Zak. You know, a year ago,

1176
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti was and I understand it. You know, I

1177
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: totally get why Kurt Signette had a bravada about him

1178
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: and a confidence bordering on almost like an arrogance about him.

1179
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Arrogance is probably the wrong word, but uber confident and

1180
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: then everybody loved it because he backed it up. I mean,

1181
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: it was great. He backed it up. He backed it

1182
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: up at JMU, and I think Indiana needed that a

1183
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: year ago. Indiana needed that, And truthfully, I thought that

1184
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: it got them to where they wanted to go. And then,

1185
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: and this is probably just me being over analytical, I

1186
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: thought he went to that well won too many times.

1187
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: I thought the comments on the college football game day,

1188
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: on the field hours before the Indiana Dame game, even

1189
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: though that wouldn't have made its way in the Notre

1190
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: name's locker room, but they didn't need it at that point,

1191
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: and he went to it. He spun that wheel one

1192
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: too many times and it kind of blew up on him.

1193
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: Did he in any way, shape or form, appear to

1194
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: be different this year just because he's done, he's turned

1195
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: the program around. He's got him now, he's got them relevant.

1196
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be that guy per se or

1197
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: is that just his nature?

1198
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 5: No, I mean it's it's a bit of bolla. Clisten

1199
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 5: and I have made this comparison going back, you know,

1200
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 5: twelve months now again, and I don't.

1201
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

1202
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 5: I'm not going to cast myself as the expert on

1203
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 5: all things SEC football. But you know, I grew up

1204
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 5: at the height of Steve Spurrier Florida like that was

1205
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: that was the SEC program. That was the program that

1206
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 5: ran in the SEC when I was ten, eleven, twelve

1207
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 5: years old. And you know that they are different personalities

1208
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: in some ways, but Steve Spurrier Kurt Signetti, their needs

1209
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 5: I think always to be a little bit of that

1210
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: edge and a little bit of that sort of playful

1211
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 5: humor and a little bit of that what we would

1212
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 5: call in more modern parlance trash talking. And obviously the

1213
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 5: Spurrier ones are legendary. You can't spell Citrus Bowl without

1214
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: ut and you know the books that weren't even colored

1215
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 5: in at the Auburn Library when it burned, and all

1216
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 5: these different things that we can go through. I don't

1217
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 5: know Signette's, you know, got quite that catalog of one liners,

1218
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 5: but he does have a part of it will always

1219
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: just be his personality to be a little playful to drop.

1220
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 5: You know that that comment yesterday about we figured we

1221
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 5: just adopt an SEC scheduling philosophy, I think, knowing full

1222
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 5: well before he said it what kind of reaction it

1223
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 5: was going to provoke, but I have said this to

1224
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 5: to other people. I forget who first asked me this,

1225
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 5: but I said this to somebody a couple weeks ago,

1226
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 5: where in general, I don't think Signetti has been quite

1227
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 5: as bullish and quite as quotable this year. And I

1228
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 5: think it is for the reason that you just outlined,

1229
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 5: which is I think a year ago, even if you

1230
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 5: rewind all the way back to the comments that he

1231
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 5: makes the night that he gets hired, produce sucks and

1232
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 5: all this, if I'm allowed to say that on the air,

1233
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: forgive me, he said. He said later that the reason

1234
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 5: he said that, the reason he kind of got fired

1235
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 5: up on the micro front the way he did, was

1236
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 5: because his first day on the job, he was walking

1237
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 5: around meeting different athletics officials, different people run the football program,

1238
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 5: different people in the department in the university, and everybody

1239
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 5: was just talking about we'd love to go six and six,

1240
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 5: we'd love to be produced. And he was thinking, that

1241
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 5: is that is equintly the wrong mentality, and that's not

1242
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 5: how I do things. We're not here to just be

1243
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: all right, We're not here to just sort of like

1244
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 5: meet minimum expectations. I've got to start resetting the way

1245
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 5: these people think about their football program. And from that

1246
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 5: point forward you have the Google Meet comment. There's some

1247
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 5: things that he says that in spring, in the spring season.

1248
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 5: There are a number of different comments from big to

1249
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 5: media days, you know, twenty twenty four, and then through

1250
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: the season, all the way up to and including the

1251
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 5: comment that you talked about on game day at the

1252
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 5: Notre Dame game. I think that reflected Signetti trying to

1253
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 5: in his way again reflecting his personality and what works

1254
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 5: for him, trying to affect the sea change in the

1255
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 5: way that people inside and in the immediate orbit of

1256
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 5: his football program thought about that football program, what to

1257
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 5: expect from it, how to support it, you know what,

1258
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 5: it was capable of all of it.

1259
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 7: And I don't think.

1260
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 5: He's sitting there thinking, oh, and now this year we're

1261
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 5: going to go fifteen to zero and win a national

1262
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: title and everything's fixth But I think he steps back

1263
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 5: now twelve months later, and I think he doesn't feel

1264
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 5: like he needs to be quite so intentional that some

1265
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 5: of that, at least the basics of that culture change

1266
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 5: have kind of taken root because of the success that

1267
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 5: people saw was possible when they sort of bought in essentially,

1268
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 5: and so I think it has been noticeable to me

1269
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: this offseason. It's not like he's been dull and boring,

1270
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 5: but he hasn't had nearly as many of the sort

1271
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 5: of vie le signetti moments that kind of became his

1272
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 5: calling card last season, became so much a part of

1273
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 5: the profile of the twenty twenty four IU football season.

1274
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 5: He hasn't had nearly as many of those, and I

1275
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 5: don't think it's because he felt like he needed to

1276
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 5: tone them back. I think it's because he doesn't see

1277
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 5: the need for them this year in the way that

1278
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 5: he did last year.

1279
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: A pre conference schedule against opponents that went eleven and

1280
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: twenty five last year, Old Dominion, Kannesas State, and Indiana State.

1281
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: It begins for the Hoosiers August thirtieth against Old Dominion,

1282
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: and we can get between now and then more into

1283
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: some of the new faces you will see from a

1284
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: personnel standpoint with Zach Ostraman, Zach, appreciate the time, the

1285
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: perspective today, and we will talk to you soon.

1286
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 7: All right, absolutely, thanks for having me as always.

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Speaker 1: Zach Ostraman joining us on the guest line here again.

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Speaker 1: We're at Grand Park, up in Westfield to recap for

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Speaker 1: you practice number one for the Colts today and I

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Speaker 1: will reset this for you several times over the course

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Speaker 1: of today, but you know, it was a one hour

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Speaker 1: practic this it concluded just after eleven o'clock. Shane Steiken

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Speaker 1: was optimistic afterwards. I guess you would expect him to be,

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Speaker 1: just in terms of what he saw, the energy that

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Speaker 1: he saw and some of the things that they were

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Speaker 1: working on, and I think what they were working on,

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Speaker 1: and he made very specific mention of this on a

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Speaker 1: number of occasions, and that is they talking about the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken made it clear that the one thing that

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Speaker 1: he wants more than anything else to emphasize for this year,

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Speaker 1: in this camp, for this particular group, is that he

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Speaker 1: thought a year ago they had too many games that

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Speaker 1: they gave away late. And whether that be a focus issue,

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Speaker 1: whether that be a scheme issue, whether that be a

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Speaker 1: timing issue, those are the things that he feels need

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Speaker 1: to be addressed and need to be worked on and

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Speaker 1: fine tuned. And so he made it very clear that

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of their practices in this training camp,

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Speaker 1: what he wants to do is have a little bit

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Speaker 1: more of and I'm going to use my own phrasing here,

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Speaker 1: like an organized field chaos, And by that I mean

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Speaker 1: the situations of late game situations where things are happening,

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Speaker 1: happening quickly, frantically. You got to make quick substitutions. You

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Speaker 1: got to make a quick adjustment in terms of your scheme,

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Speaker 1: be it defensively or offensively, and what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: I think a year ago he felt like they lacked

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Speaker 1: in that area, their focus or their attention to detail.

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Speaker 1: They gave away games late. I think he feels like

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Speaker 1: a year ago, the Colts were the team that was

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Speaker 1: always on the other end of Tyrese Haliburton's heroics, if

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Speaker 1: you will, like just watching and seeing, you know, allowing

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Speaker 1: for defeat to be snatched from the jaws of victory,

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Speaker 1: and that they didn't make the plays down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: So he mentioned today that one of the things he

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Speaker 1: likes about lou Anarrimo's defense, for example, is that there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of changes that can happen for the

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Speaker 1: backside of the defense. In other words, the defensive backfield

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Speaker 1: forward in terms of schemes and different looks to keep

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and those that are running the quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: honest and to keep them kind of guessing as to

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Speaker 1: what's going on and creating, if you will, those situations

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Speaker 1: of having to think quickly, having to make quick decisions,

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Speaker 1: having to have it, having to have alteration to what

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Speaker 1: you're doing, almost become instinctive. And that was the thing

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Speaker 1: that he wants to work on in this camp and

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Speaker 1: he felt like today they showed some moments of that. Now,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was the quarterback that worked with the starting

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Speaker 1: unit as practice began, But you can't read into that

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Speaker 1: a lot because between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, they

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Speaker 1: essentially kind of split time at the starting position, and

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Speaker 1: there was not necessarily one that stood out over the other,

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Speaker 1: both in reps and in precision of reps. And so

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Speaker 1: therefore you can look at the fact that Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: through an interception, you can look at the fact that

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had one ball that grossly oversailed Moile Cocks,

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Speaker 1: but then they also had throws at times that were

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Speaker 1: in rhythm and where they wanted to be. Both of

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Speaker 1: them were taking their snaps underneath Bordolini, who it looks

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Speaker 1: like is going to be the starting center. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's much question about that. Bordolini was the starting

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Speaker 1: center from the get go today and was throughout all

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Speaker 1: of the reps of practice, and both quarterbacks when they

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Speaker 1: were back there were throwing, and we're noticing that from

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Speaker 1: the very get go, the rookie Justin Wally was the

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Speaker 1: one that was getting starting reps at the corner position

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Speaker 1: over Jalen Jones and over Juju Brent's and Wally is

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Speaker 1: somebody that Chris Ballard spoke of yesterday in a very

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Speaker 1: favorable way, and it was very clear that he has

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Speaker 1: been impressed by him. And still it's one practice, but

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Speaker 1: it is interesting that a young player liked that immediately

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Speaker 1: was getting that nod, and so that is something that

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Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. Another thing that was interesting is

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Speaker 1: a guy that I've always liked and I thought was

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Speaker 1: a good player for the Colts, and you know, one

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Speaker 1: of those that unfortunately health became probably an issue just

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Speaker 1: in of overall availability and reliability. Julian Blackman, that looks

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Speaker 1: like now is right on the custom if it hasn't

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: happened yet today apparently is in discussion to signing with

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. I only mention that because he's

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Speaker 1: one of those that you looked at and you go,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, they bolstered that defensive backfield situation

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Speaker 1: and wondered if maybe he wouldn't become like a late

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Speaker 1: camp signing again just as an insurance policy. But it

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Speaker 1: does look like he's going to end up in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans camp tomorrow, getting back underway at ten o'clock. It

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Speaker 1: will run until eleven, same for Friday, but Friday they

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Speaker 1: will go untill eleven fifteen. So Tomorrow and Friday in

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Speaker 1: particular are important. And maybe it's important that they're doing

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Speaker 1: the camp from ten to eleven because it's obviously pretty

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Speaker 1: hot out now. I mean it's the air is pretty

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Speaker 1: thick out here. You know. Cam Blakenship, who's out here

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Speaker 1: with me, just nodded and that's the most movement he's

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Speaker 1: had actually since we've been out here since eleven, because

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Speaker 1: it's a little stifling. It is definitely warm, but we're

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Speaker 1: under shade of a tent, so not all a bad

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Speaker 1: thing now. So far, there have not been any strange

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Speaker 1: things that have happened Holds Camp. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: stranger things happen out here. There are some stranger things

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Speaker 1: that have happened when in relation to the Indiana Fever.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about their loss last night against

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Speaker 1: New York, but rather what you're going to see upcoming.

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Speaker 1: And one of the representatives of the franchise will join

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Speaker 1: us next to talk about exactly that. Adam Alexander, two

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Speaker 1: o'clock and last night, I did something really cool, really

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Speaker 1: cool last night, and a guy came up to me

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, I appreciate that you're doing something really cool,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, it's so cool, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to have you on tomorrow to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: And he said, sounds good to me, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to have that conversation at two thirty. I'll let you

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Speaker 1: know what it is when we come back here to

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Speaker 1: Grand Park Colts Camp in Westfield. Query and Company on

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Speaker 1: the fan. I was mistaken by the way my apologies,

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Speaker 1: our guest from the Fever coming up in about fifteen

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Speaker 1: minutes from now. Last night. Let me tell you something

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Speaker 1: I did that is one of those things that was

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Speaker 1: just you know, you kind of never know what it

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Speaker 1: is going into it. And I felt bad for the

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Speaker 1: planners of it because we've talked a lot about it,

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Speaker 1: and I know that there was an expectation that didn't

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. But I grew up with a good

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Speaker 1: buddy mine from I mean childhood growing up. My buddy

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Speaker 1: Marshall lives in Colorado now and went to IU with us.

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Speaker 1: We grew up together all the way through. And he

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Speaker 1: came back into town along with his dad in order

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Speaker 1: to see the TBT tournament, and he had bought tickets,

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Speaker 1: a big block of tickets for the games at Hinkle.

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Speaker 1: In anticipation is I think a lot of people anticipated

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Speaker 1: that IU and Butler and those alumni teams would be

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Speaker 1: squaring off at Hinkled in the fun of that of

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Speaker 1: watching Yogi Ferrell and watching James Blackman Junior and you know,

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Speaker 1: taking on Shelvin Mack and all of that. And of

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Speaker 1: course Indiana was out immediately. I mean they they literally

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Speaker 1: they looked like the Simpsons gift. It was like walked in,

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Speaker 1: walked right back out. And I think that that did

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Speaker 1: hurt the attendance at Hinkle, but there's still nothing like

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Speaker 1: there's nothing like going to Hinkle Field House at sunset,

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Speaker 1: and it hearkens back to for so many people don't

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Speaker 1: care what age range you are. I mean, whether you

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Speaker 1: are my age or whether you're a younger person, whatever

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Speaker 1: it might be. Hinkel is so magical and is so

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Speaker 1: historical in general. But when the sun comes through the

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Speaker 1: windows there and starts dancing around inside of hinkle Field House,

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Speaker 1: it's just everything about it is awesome. And that's what

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Speaker 1: took place last night as we went to the TBT

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Speaker 1: game between Fail Harder, which is the team that upset

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Speaker 1: Indiana and is made up of players from Central Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Guy is, as they call it, the GM of

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Speaker 1: that team, so he's the one that helps put it together,

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Speaker 1: and then they were playing against I believe Carmon's Crew

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Speaker 1: is the name of the team, but it was essentially

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Speaker 1: players from now One would think Ohio State William Buford

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Speaker 1: was the only former Buckeye on the roster, but it's

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Speaker 1: players that played collegiately throughout the state of Ohio and

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Speaker 1: notably now play at the Shot Center in Columbus, just

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Speaker 1: in terms of like Summer League type stuff. And I

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01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: didn't know a lot about this other than what we've

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Speaker 1: talked about on the air, and we've obviously seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of these games on cable television. It's a perfect summertime,

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Speaker 1: you know, thing to put together. They're smart in that

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01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: regard because of the fact that it does just offer,

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: like Marshall was saying, Marshall's like, yeah, I love it

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01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: because it gives me something to watch in the non

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Speaker 1: NFL season coming off of the NBA, et cetera. And

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Speaker 1: I know that there was obviously the plan and the

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Speaker 1: hope for a bigger crowd or a biggert ticket sale

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Speaker 1: based on those two teams advancing further. But Marshall had

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Speaker 1: bought the tickets for the whole thing. So we went

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Speaker 1: along with my buddy Byron last night and going into

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Speaker 1: Hinkle and being in that environment in itself was cool.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that was cool about it

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Speaker 1: as well is they had up on the video board

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Speaker 1: the game that was taking place in Wichita with the

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Speaker 1: Wichita State alumni, and that crowd looked pretty good with

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Speaker 1: the Wichita State alumni team playing, and that was going

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Speaker 1: to determine where the winner of last night's game went

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Speaker 1: in a advancing through this tournament. And of course the

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Speaker 1: ultimate thing is the winning team gets a million dollars

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: to split amongst the team, you know, the faculty, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it throughout as well. Jared Sollinger,

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Speaker 1: who's been you know, obviously a legend of Ohio State

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Speaker 1: from a basketball standpoint, was involved on the sidelines for

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Speaker 1: the Ohio team that played last night. They do what's

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Speaker 1: called what's it called eddie? Is it called the elam

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Speaker 1: scoring system? I think that's what it's called the elam ending.

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Speaker 1: And we've heard about this, right but to witness it

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Speaker 1: was super cool. And let me explain what happens is

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01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 1: in the final four minutes of the game, they immediately

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Speaker 1: go into the elam ending, so the clock becomes irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: They put a clock up for ninety five minutes, and

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Speaker 1: I thought, my goodness, if this taken, there's no way

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take ninety five minutes for this to happen.

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Speaker 1: What I'm about to explain, but at the time, I

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Speaker 1: believe the score was sixty two to forty six. The

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Speaker 1: fail Harder team, who they have a really good player

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Speaker 1: that played at Marion. They got a little guard that

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Speaker 1: is from the area as well. I mean, most of

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Speaker 1: these guys are all from colleges around central Indiana, and

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Speaker 1: they were they played really, really well, but they were

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Speaker 1: up sixty two forty six with four minutes remaining. So

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 1: what then happens is you add eight to the leading

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Speaker 1: team's score, so the magic number becomes seventy. So with

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Speaker 1: four minutes left, it was okay, first one to seventy wins. Well,

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: you only have to score eight points if you're the

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: team that's leading. But the team from Ohio then had

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Speaker 1: to score twenty four points if they wanted to win

1497
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: at minimum, right, because they needed the first one. Well yeah,

1498
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: not at minimum, that's what they need. The first one

1499
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: to get to seventy would win the game. And it

1500
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: was fascinating because then the defensive intensity completely picked up

1501
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: and the fail harder team had like five or six

1502
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 1: consecutive they got to the point where they had scored

1503
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: their first six points. They hit two threes I think

1504
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: it was, but they so they needed a basket to win.

1505
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: But the defensive intensity completely changed. And there's basically you

1506
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: don't want to foul either because you don't want to

1507
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: put anybody in the free throw line and give them,

1508
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, free minutes. So there's strategy that comes into

1509
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: play with this. And the Ohio team went on this

1510
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: run where all of a sudden, it was sixty eight

1511
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: I think like sixty two or sixty four, and you're like,

1512
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: whoa wait a minute, Like they're within a three here

1513
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: of basically being right on the cusp of then themselves

1514
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: being able to win this game. It was this incredible

1515
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: comeback and the defensive intensity of that last four minutes

1516
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: that alone made it worthwhile. I mean it was. It

1517
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: was super cool. It was great to be with the

1518
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: guys I grew up with. It was great to be

1519
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: at Hankle, and it was great to see guys that

1520
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: were playing really for just this incredible passion and also

1521
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: just for the kind of the thrill of playing the game.

1522
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: Lance Stevenson was there and was going absolutely bonkers on

1523
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: every single play, which is kind of what Lance Stevenson does.

1524
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: Even got some air guitar out of it, which was cool.

1525
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to one of the vice presidents

1526
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 1: of the Indiana Fever, associate vice president of marketing. As

1527
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, but that's because stranger things are

1528
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: happening at Gambridge Field House. We'll explain next. In fact,

1529
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: you just heard that mention of the Fever and stranger

1530
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: things at Gambridge Field House with Las Vegas tomorrow night

1531
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: joining us now in the guest line to talk about

1532
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: that and more. She is the associate vice president of

1533
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: marketing for the Indiana Fever. Shanna Sangster joining us on

1534
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: the program. Shanna, let's begin with this. I'll be honest.

1535
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you look at something and you go, wow,

1536
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: this is super cool, and then you remind yourself, but

1537
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: it feels familiar. What we're going to see tomorrow night

1538
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: took place also in twenty twenty one. But that's not

1539
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: to say that that has denied any sort of the

1540
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: buzz about what's taking place with the Fever, because people

1541
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: are excited about this, right, Yeah.

1542
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 8: Absolutely.

1543
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 9: First off, I just want to say thank you so

1544
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 9: much for having me, and we're so excited. I'm so

1545
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 9: excited to be on with the flagshipt or the are

1546
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 9: broadcast for the Fever, So thank you so much. We

1547
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 9: hear so many fans who just love and enjoy the broadcast,

1548
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 9: so we appreciate you guys. And then second, yes, this

1549
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 9: is the second goal around for these jerseys. We launched

1550
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 9: them originally in twenty twenty one and decided to bring

1551
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 9: them back in celebration of first the finale of the

1552
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 9: series that happens later this year. And then also just

1553
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 9: because the first girl around, we didn't have much in stock,

1554
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 9: We didn't have the inventory available, and we knew our

1555
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 9: fans kept asking for them, Our players were asking for

1556
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 9: a black jersey, and so we just knew like this

1557
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 9: was the right time.

1558
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this in terms of the design,

1559
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going to sound and I apologize for asking

1560
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: us and showing my Naivita here because I can't recall.

1561
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 1: These are the exact same, basically my design of what

1562
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: we saw in twenty twenty one or new because the

1563
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: color aspect of it, you know, obviously you tie in

1564
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: with Stranger Things, and we'll get to how that came about,

1565
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: but the look of it itself is super cool.

1566
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, they are the exact from twenty twenty one. Actually,

1567
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 9: when we decided to do this about a year ago,

1568
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 9: they went directly to print. There was no time to

1569
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 9: make changes. We had to kind of roll with it,

1570
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 9: and so Nike took it and started creating the jerseys immediately.

1571
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 9: They have their black jerseys with red particles. If you've

1572
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 9: seen the show, you know that there's these particles that

1573
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 9: float in the air, and so that's representative of that,

1574
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,879
Speaker 9: and then the main character from the show is named eleven.

1575
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,480
Speaker 9: She's a female lead, She's powerful. She kind of resembles,

1576
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 9: you know what we think of our players on the court.

1577
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 9: And there's a number eleven on the bell fuckle and

1578
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 9: then on the back there's Fever turned upside down and

1579
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 9: representations of the upside down, which is also from the show.

1580
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: Now, obviously the show itself, Shana takes place fictionally in

1581
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. Thus the tie in, I get

1582
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: it with Stranger Things and the Fever, But where was

1583
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: the first outreach? I guess so the first connection made

1584
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: in being able to put this partnership together with something

1585
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: that is a Netflix property.

1586
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was back in twenty one.

1587
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 10: At that point in time, the league launched league wide,

1588
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 10: all the teams got new jerseys, three new jerseys, and

1589
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 10: Nike came to us with the idea of partnering with

1590
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 10: Strangers Thinks for this, and me, being a fan of the.

1591
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 9: Show was I was just so excited because it was

1592
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 9: an opportunity to kind of mesh to worlds and I

1593
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 9: think it also allows us to tap into pop culture

1594
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 9: in a way that we don't always get a chance

1595
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 9: to do. And so it started there. Nike brought the

1596
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 9: idea and then we collaborated on the uniform design and

1597
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 9: then brought Netflix into it and they were excited.

1598
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 7: So it's been a partnership ever since.

1599
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: Shanna, how have you had to as the associate vice

1600
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: president of marketing for the Indiana Fever and you know

1601
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: with that this is a good challenge to have. But

1602
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: has it been somewhat of a challenge to the fact

1603
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: that you now have the most marketable player in arguably

1604
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: all of women's sports in the United States as part

1605
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: of your brand, But at the same time she is

1606
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: part of the bigger picture and totality of the team itself.

1607
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: Has it been a challenge to kind of balance the

1608
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: marketing of individual and team.

1609
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 9: You know, for sure we are all about team here.

1610
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 9: We think it obviously takes all twelve players to make

1611
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 9: up this team or eleven players as we have our twelve.

1612
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 9: We just actually signed someone to a Tenney contract this week.

1613
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 9: But there's going to be a star and this is

1614
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 9: I mean, if there's a problem, it's a good problem

1615
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 9: to have.

1616
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 7: She is a.

1617
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 9: Phenomenal player, a phenomenal human being, and she makes me

1618
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 9: look good because my marketing has never looked better honestly,

1619
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 9: and it's not anything that I'm doing differently. It's because

1620
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 9: we have a rock star player and front office and

1621
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 9: starters on this team that really go out there and

1622
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 9: give it their role and make us at the office

1623
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 9: look great.

1624
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: And in terms of that, you know, one of the

1625
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: things that I think is so interesting and we knew this,

1626
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: we anticipated this going into it, Shana Sangster. But you

1627
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: know when I walk around downtown. You know, our building

1628
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: is right on Monument Circle, and a lot of times

1629
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: on a game day I'll walk around. Well, just for example,

1630
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: I'll give you a good example, Shana. A couple of

1631
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I'm out on Monument Circle and I see

1632
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: this young family and you know, you always do the

1633
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: thing where you're like they were trying to take a picture,

1634
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, hey, do you guys want me

1635
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: to take the photo of all of you?

1636
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 4: Oh?

1637
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, great? So then I ask, so you know where

1638
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: you guys from? What brings you to town? And the

1639
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: dad says to me, well, our daughter here, it's her

1640
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: tenth birthday. We're from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but we always do

1641
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: a trip for each of our kids birthday, and her

1642
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: trip this year which she wanted to come see Caitlyn

1643
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: Clark play. So you have this aspect of it is

1644
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: a national brand, right, It's a national brand, and you

1645
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: understand that, but at the same time you're wanting them

1646
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: to know that it's the Indiana Fever. And to me,

1647
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 1: that dichotomy, if you will, I would think it be challenging.

1648
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 9: It certainly is, but honestly it's a good thing.

1649
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 4: Right.

1650
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 9: They come here for Caitlin, but we have seen so

1651
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 9: many of them say they stay here for Kelsey Mitchell,

1652
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 9: they stay for Leah Boston. They get to love the

1653
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 9: equity of, or get to love every single player on

1654
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 9: the roster, and that has been a phenomenal spillover. And

1655
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 9: so you know, as the lead for marketing, what I

1656
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 9: really try and do is make sure that when I'm

1657
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 9: putting Caitlin on a billboard or on a piece of signage,

1658
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 9: that we're partnering her with a lesser known player so

1659
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 9: we can kind of allow her equity to spill over

1660
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 9: into everyone else. And she's not only raised that for

1661
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 9: the other players on the team, but also for the

1662
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 9: Fever brand itself. Our awareness of this team and of

1663
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 9: this brand has never been higher and so I appreciate it.

1664
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 9: I don't mind when they come for her because they

1665
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 9: leave knowing everybody else.

1666
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 1: Now you are. Now here's what's interesting. So the fever.

1667
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: Obviously we know that you know Stephanie White, great player

1668
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: at Purdue, Kaitlyn Clark, great player at Iowa. You're a spartan.

1669
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: Is that correct? If we're staying within the Big ten team?

1670
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 9: Actually, everyone thinks I'm as spartan because I grew up

1671
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 9: in Lansing, Michigan. I'm a huge Michigan State fan because

1672
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 9: you can't grow up next to campus and not be.

1673
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 9: But I actually went to Western Michigan.

1674
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm a bronche.

1675
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're a Bronco. You rode the boat with PJ. Flack,

1676
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: all right, that's cool when he was back there. Okay,

1677
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: and Joe Writes was a Bronco as well. Okay, so

1678
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: you are you are at heart of spartan. But my

1679
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: understanding is this, Okay, Now, it's very important chan. As

1680
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: you know, you're the associate vice president of marketing, right

1681
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: and I'm I have no title whatsoever. As a matter

1682
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: of fact, I'm not really sure that I have a job.

1683
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: But my job is to be the Associate director of research.

1684
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: When I'm doing conducting an interview, my research tells me

1685
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: that you were born inside of a Michigan hospital that

1686
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: has produced four Michigan legends, and you're one of them.

1687
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: Who are the other three?

1688
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 9: Well, that would be in Saginaw, Michigan, and the others

1689
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 9: are Draymond Green, Okay, Stevie Wonder, and Stevie.

1690
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: Wonder was nice. So Serena Williams, that's the one that

1691
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: would be the curve ball. Most people would have guessed.

1692
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: I would think that Serena was born in southern California,

1693
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: because didn't they move there shortly thereafter?

1694
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, I believe.

1695
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 9: So, I know she definitely grew up in Compton, but

1696
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 9: was born in Shagonaw, Missian. Missigan is kind of randomly.

1697
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 9: So I always like to claim that's my claim to faint.

1698
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: Now, let me give you this, let me throw this

1699
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: one at you. So Stevie Wonder was born in Saginaw

1700
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: as a young you know, obviously, once it was obvious

1701
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: he was going to be a prolific musician, he moved

1702
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: to Detroit and got involved in Motown. When I was

1703
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: in Detroit about three or four years ago, I went

1704
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: to go see Stevie Wonder's childhood home. I thought, well,

1705
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: it'd be cool to see Stevie Wonders childhood home not

1706
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: far from Motown where the Motown you know studio is.

1707
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: So I go there and I'm looking at his childhood

1708
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: home and the guy next door, super nice dude, came

1709
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: out and he's like, yeah, I actually grew up in

1710
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 1: this house. This was my mom's house. Unfortunately my mom passed,

1711
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: but I now have the house. Okay, that's cool. And

1712
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: he was about the same age as Stevie Wonder. Now

1713
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 1: he told me, he swears to me, swears to me

1714
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: that when he was like take years old, before he moved,

1715
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: he saw Stevie Wonder riding a bike around the neighborhood. Now,

1716
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: either that's factor or fiction. If we're doing stranger things,

1717
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder riding his bike after being born in Saginaw

1718
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,719
Speaker 1: factor fiction? What do you think?

1719
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1720
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 9: I feel like that might be fiction. I actually this

1721
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 9: is Many people don't know this, but my mom went

1722
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 9: on a blind date. And I don't mean this as

1723
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 9: a joke. It was literally a blind date with Stevie

1724
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 9: Wonder when she was living in Michigan. And he definitely

1725
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 9: was blind, so I don't know if he was riding

1726
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 9: a bike, I.

1727
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: Just can't Was he cool? Did he serenade her? Do

1728
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: we know? So?

1729
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 9: I I've never asked that, you know, I will definitely

1730
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 9: ask that when we get off the call.

1731
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Do you know if he's ever called just to say

1732
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 1: he loves her? I mean, you know, you're curious, right,

1733
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: and what it's worth? I would put you listen, Shane,

1734
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 1: let me tell you that. Well, Shana Sangster, now here's

1735
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: the thing. As the associate vice president of marketing, I

1736
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: will tell you this, Okay, Stevie Wonder pretty darn cool,

1737
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: no question about it. Serena Williams arguably the greatest female

1738
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: athlete of all time, no question. I slaught you in

1739
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,719
Speaker 1: front of Raymond Green. You are number three of the four.

1740
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: For what that's worth, that's cool? Yeah, yeah, no problem.

1741
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: You know all right, Stranger three stranger things jerseys for

1742
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: the Fever coming up against the Las Vegas Aces. There

1743
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: are going to be other games as well as a

1744
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 1: matter of fact where these are going to be seen.

1745
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: But it all gets underway again tomorrow night against the Aces.

1746
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: You can hear that game right here on this radio

1747
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: station Eddie Garrison, you will hear on the pre and

1748
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,799
Speaker 1: post game Shane, I appreciate it as always, and go Broncos.

1749
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 7: Okay, awesome, thank.

1750
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 9: You, I appreciate it.

1751
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: Have a good one, all right.

1752
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: The Pride of Saginaw Shana Sangster joining us on the

1753
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: guest line. All right, A lot to get to still.

1754
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: Adam Alexander will be on the television call for the

1755
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: Brickyard four hundred coming up on Sunday. He also a

1756
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: product here of Indianapolis, and we will talk to Adam

1757
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: coming up two o'clock just about a couple of minutes

1758
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: from now. Cam Blakenship is the on site engineer. We

1759
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: are here at Colts Camp, Grand Park and Westfield where

1760
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: the Colts wrapped up practice number one just after eleven

1761
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: o'clock today. Now the only activity on the field is

1762
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: that of a John Deere that's running around and getting

1763
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: everything ready for tomorrow. You might hear that just off

1764
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: in the distance. We are just off to the sidelines

1765
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: here on a very warm day in central Indiana. It

1766
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: will be a warm day, one would assume, with track

1767
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: activity coming up this weekend at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Sunday,

1768
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: the running of the Brickyard four hundred and that from

1769
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: a television standpoint will be anchored by Adam Alexander, who

1770
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: has done the Brickyard before from a radio standpoint, joins

1771
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: us now on the guest line and Adam, I actually

1772
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: had Eddie Garrison play Prey by mc hammer coming Back.

1773
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: Because you probably don't remember this, but I think we

1774
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 1: were juniors in high school when I gave you the

1775
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 1: mc hammer tape and you broke into a spontaneous version

1776
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: of that song with your excitement and giddiness over me

1777
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: giving you an mc hammer cassette tape, and so I thought,

1778
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, what, can you do a little mc hammer

1779
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 1: pray for me real quick?

1780
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, there's a zero percent chance that's

1781
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 6: going to happen today.

1782
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,919
Speaker 7: JA. I would also say I'm highly offended.

1783
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 6: I would say I'm highly offended that you come on

1784
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 6: the air and you say, hey, we're over here on

1785
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 6: the sidelines. I thought maybe that was a shot at

1786
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 6: me because that's where I spent most of my time

1787
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 6: playing high school football at North Central.

1788
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 7: You know, on the sidelines.

1789
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: Hey, Adam, here's the thing. So for those that don't

1790
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 1: know Adam Alexander and I were we met. If you

1791
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 1: can remember this, Adam, I'll give you a shiny, brand

1792
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: new fifty dollars bill, just like Bozo the Clown used

1793
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: to give out. Do you know what class we were

1794
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: in when we first met, by.

1795
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 7: The way, it was English, right, like freshman year English,

1796
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 7: is that right?

1797
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: Sophomore year English? Miss Martin, she was like twenty four.

1798
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: She was hot. Do you remember miss Martin? By chance?

1799
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 7: I have no comments on that.

1800
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: I do. So you were wearing a Purdue shirt and

1801
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: I was like, well, who's this guy? You know, this

1802
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: loud mouth, the Purdue fan, and I was an IU fan,

1803
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: and we both knew that we wanted to get into broadcasting.

1804
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 1: And then, as fate would have it, junior year at

1805
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 1: wj EL at North Central. We were very fortunate, Adam,

1806
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: that they had a radio television program, and you and

1807
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: I were in that, and mac Ingall was in there

1808
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: with us as well, Chris Love, you know, David Woods

1809
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: who I work with now, a lot of folks, but

1810
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 1: we were very very fortunate, and you know, without getting

1811
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: to you know, boring people, with us being the two

1812
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: old guys from the Muppets here, it truly was a

1813
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: special time because you and I immediately just hooked up

1814
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: and said you know what, and we were the best

1815
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: of buds from the get go, and that continues to today.

1816
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: But man, it was a special time, a lot of

1817
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: fun back then.

1818
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 6: It really is amazing that it all worked out like

1819
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 6: it did. And I was talking to some folks yesterday

1820
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 6: about coming back to Indy and do a brickyard four

1821
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 6: hundred and they asked, you know, what's it like to

1822
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 6: do that race in your hometownd And I said, this

1823
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 6: is truly full circle because our broadcasting careers began, you know,

1824
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 6: right there at North Central and Jaylorrettlight, Chris Center and

1825
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 6: WJ E. L. So to be able to start there

1826
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 6: and do all the things that we were able to

1827
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 6: do at such a young age and now to be

1828
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 6: back is cool. And obviously you're a part of the

1829
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 6: sports landscape every day in Indianapolis and all you do

1830
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 6: for the communities amazing. And I know for you, the

1831
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 6: foundation laid right there, and so it's got to be

1832
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 6: great for you to be able to be around like

1833
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 6: you are and share so many great moments with the

1834
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,919
Speaker 6: city of Indianapolis in the sports community.

1835
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Do you remember Adam before we get to the Brickyard,

1836
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: because there is some there are some storylines to talk

1837
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: about with that. But do you remember, And I think

1838
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: it's hard for people now to understand what a thrill

1839
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: this was for us then, but you and I when

1840
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: we were juniors, and I take a lot of pride

1841
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: in this, Adam, honestly. And I know your career has

1842
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: gone on two great things. I mean, you're the television

1843
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: voice and NASCAR for the Brickyard four hundred upcoming on

1844
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: T and T, also on those races that take place

1845
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: on Prime and you know you have done a number

1846
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: of different broadcasts in college football as well. But I

1847
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 1: don't know, Adam, that anything cany clips the moment of

1848
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: joy and pride that I had in the excitement, maybe

1849
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: even the nervousness of the fact that I believe that

1850
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: you and I, if I can pat ourselves on the back,

1851
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: I guess, but we I think we were the first

1852
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: two students ever from a high school broadcast standpoint to

1853
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: be granted credentials to broadcast live the Indiana Kentucky Basketball

1854
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: All Star Game back when it was a sellout at

1855
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: Market Square. Eric Montrosse was and Damon Bailey were the

1856
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: top two players. Dwayne Morton was for Kentucky, but we

1857
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 1: just took it upon ourselves to apply for a credential

1858
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: and it was kind of a waiting process of whether

1859
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: or not they were going to let these two knuckleheads

1860
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: from North Central do it. But do you remember, Adam,

1861
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 1: what a thrill that was for us and just how

1862
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: at the time, how honored we were to be able

1863
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 1: to do that broadcast at what it meant for our

1864
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: level of excitement to broadcast that game.

1865
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 6: Well, I think Jacob just speaks to the passion that

1866
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 6: we have for what we do. And that's why you're

1867
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 6: still doing it today and I'm still doing it today,

1868
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 6: and that is we just love showing up and going

1869
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 6: to work and you know, being in the moment when

1870
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 6: it comes to live sports, whether you know, radio, TV,

1871
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 6: whatever it is. And you know, back then, our energy

1872
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 6: level was so high, for high for it, you couldn't

1873
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 6: hold us back, and we just wanted more and more.

1874
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 6: And so after getting to spend you know, an entire

1875
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 6: season doing North Central basketball, which in and of itself

1876
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 6: was a great honor because of the schedule we played

1877
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 6: and the great gyms we got to go to, across

1878
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,879
Speaker 6: the entire state of Indiana.

1879
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 7: That just wasn't enough for us.

1880
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 6: And so when it rolled around in June it was

1881
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 6: time for the Indiana Kentucky All Star Game, we wanted

1882
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 6: to be a part of that.

1883
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 7: So, you know, I just think it speaks to the

1884
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 7: passion that you and I both have for this.

1885
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 6: We had it then at sixteen seventeen years old, and

1886
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,959
Speaker 6: we still have it today now to run our fifties.

1887
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this race coming up this weekend, Adam, and

1888
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: I know that you know what it will mean for

1889
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: you to be back home and be it, in my opinion,

1890
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,839
Speaker 1: the greatest race track in the world, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

1891
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: But let's get into some of the storylines because you know,

1892
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: with this particular race and the fact that it was

1893
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: moved obviously to the road course for a number of

1894
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: years there now back on the oval that obviously a

1895
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: year ago was the return. But this particular track and

1896
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: the challenges that it presents to these drivers, what makes

1897
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: aside from the history Indianapolis different.

1898
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 6: I would just say the nostalgia, you know, and you

1899
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 6: mentioned history, but for me, you know, and I was

1900
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 6: talking to Dale Junior about this yesterday he'll be a

1901
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 6: part of our coverage Sunday on T and T. You know,

1902
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 6: outside of Daytona, this is one I think a lot

1903
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 6: of drivers. Circle is a place you want to win,

1904
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,640
Speaker 6: just because you know how winners at Indianapolis are celebrated,

1905
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 6: and it really you know, the Indy five hundred is

1906
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 6: the Indy five hundred, but it really you know, if

1907
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 6: you're a racer, you want to win there. And I

1908
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 6: think about those that did it in Formula one and

1909
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 6: now Michael Schumacher is still celebrated today having won it,

1910
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 6: you know, five times. And what Jeff Gordon, you know

1911
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 6: what his name means, not just because of what he's

1912
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 6: done in the history of NASCAR and the championships and

1913
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 6: all that he's accomplished, but the five wins at Indianapolis

1914
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 6: are something that is right there at the top of

1915
01:30:58,800 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 6: his resume, just.

1916
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 7: Because of the magneting at that place.

1917
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 6: And I know a lot of drivers were disappointed, you know,

1918
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 6: when it went to the road course. They understood that

1919
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 6: move and the timing of it and all of that,

1920
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 6: but it took away an opportunity for them to win

1921
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 6: one of the crown jewels in NASCAR because the Brickyard

1922
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 6: four hundred was not on the schedule. And I know

1923
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 6: Danny Hamlin for one, you know, he won last week.

1924
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 6: He's on a roll right now. He's been close to Indy,

1925
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 6: he's never won, and I know he feels like, at

1926
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 6: forty four years old, how many more opportunities am I

1927
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 6: going to have? I had three opportunities that went away

1928
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 6: when we were on a road course. I feel like

1929
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 6: I need to go get it done right now. And

1930
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 6: so there's a lot of drivers that fill that urgency

1931
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 6: that are on the back side of their career. If

1932
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 6: they haven't wanted, they want to get it done to

1933
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 6: say they won at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway on the oval, you.

1934
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Know, Adam on Sunday, I don't think and I don't

1935
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: want to mention, you know, weatherwise, if the forecast doesn't

1936
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: look great, it doesn't look terrible. I think it's a

1937
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: small chance of some precipitation. But I do think the airs,

1938
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: even if it doesn't rain, it's going to be it's

1939
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: going to be thick. How does that impact? I know

1940
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: from from an IndyCar standpoint, you know, a thick air

1941
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,600
Speaker 1: like that can kind of slow those engines down to

1942
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: kind of slog through that thick air, the grip can

1943
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: become challenged. I think it's too hot on the track,

1944
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: But what about from a cup standpoint? How does it

1945
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: impact the cars themselves and maybe even the strategy of

1946
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: a long race like that.

1947
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 7: Well, strategy is going to be a big part of

1948
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 7: the equation.

1949
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 6: And if any way, shape or form, you know, the

1950
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 6: weather impacts the handling of the cars, whether that be

1951
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 6: the you know, the track conditions themselves, or just what

1952
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 6: it does to.

1953
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 7: You know, to bog down the engine or change the

1954
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 7: way you race.

1955
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 6: You know, if it has an impact on strategy, that's

1956
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 6: a big deal because this is a strategy race and

1957
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 6: we see that, you know, in the Indy five hundred

1958
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 6: and two, but in NASCAR, you know, it's so challenging

1959
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 6: to pass here. You know, you get the restarts and

1960
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 6: that's where there's a lot of excitement. But then once

1961
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 6: you find yourself in position, it comes down to when

1962
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 6: are you going to pit? How many stops are you

1963
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 6: going to make? How can you minimize your time on

1964
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 6: tit road? And is it better to pit three times

1965
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 6: but have to wait on fuel or is it better

1966
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 6: to pit four times and have quicker stops and then

1967
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 6: when you know when are these cautions going to come out.

1968
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 6: We know when we'll get two of them at the

1969
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 6: end of the stages, but when will there be other cautions?

1970
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 6: And so it's a lot to manage for these teams.

1971
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 6: And you know, you talk about weather, We're coming off

1972
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 6: one of our hottest races. It was it was not good,

1973
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 6: you know, Sunday in Dover. It was hot and humid

1974
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 6: and very hard on these drivers. And I would anticipate

1975
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 6: it will be more of the same Sunday in Indy,

1976
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 6: for sure.

1977
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, Dover was one. Adam Alexander is our guest.

1978
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,799
Speaker 1: You can see them and hear them Sunday on TNT

1979
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: for the coverage of the Brick Card four hundred. In

1980
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: terms of that race in Dover, nobody, I guess, if

1981
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: you were to look at it coming off of that

1982
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: would be hotter than Denny Hamlin because he won that

1983
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: race and he's put together a couple of wins this year.

1984
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Do you believe Adam in momentum when it comes to

1985
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: racing or are the tracks so different one to the

1986
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:58,280
Speaker 1: next that it's kind of hard to judge.

1987
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 6: No, I do than momentum, and I think it's top

1988
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 6: to bottom within the team. You know, certainly a driver

1989
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 6: maybe has a little bit more, you know, swagger about

1990
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 6: themselves if they've won. And I saw that in Denny Hamlin.

1991
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 6: I felt like after he won it dover in the

1992
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 6: way he won.

1993
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 7: He was energized. But I also feel like that, you know,

1994
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 7: that crew plays.

1995
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 6: Such a big role and they filled the momentum and

1996
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 6: the expectations of winning. And you know, from from a

1997
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 6: cruchie standpoint, as you align strategy, you know, when you've

1998
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,719
Speaker 6: won races, it builds a little bit of an insurance

1999
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 6: policy once you get to the playoffs, and that opens

2000
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 6: the door, you know, for the risks you can take

2001
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 6: once you're in a race, especially when you're going to

2002
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 6: a venue. Whereas we said, strategy is going to be

2003
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 6: a big deal. So I I feel like, you know,

2004
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 6: momentum is something that is real and that could play

2005
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 6: a factor. It's different than other sports, but certainly it's

2006
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 6: something that's a part of the equation.

2007
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,759
Speaker 1: By the way, Adam, speaking of swagger, we double dated

2008
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: for grad dance and we took our dates for pizza.

2009
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: Do you remember that. I mean, that's some swagger, isn't it.

2010
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 7: I guess it is.

2011
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 6: I'm sure I wasn't thinking that at the time. It

2012
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 6: was probably more.

2013
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 7: Of a budget decision. But fifty two, now, let's just

2014
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 7: go with swagger. You know that much?

2015
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah listen, listen. A lot of people don't realize this,

2016
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: and maybe you don't want me. I mean, I'll say

2017
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: it like on the air here speaking of swagger. So

2018
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't have it in high school, but by

2019
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: the time you were, you know, early to mid twenties,

2020
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: you had some swagger. Because I was there the night

2021
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: that you and aud were your wife met, so like

2022
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: you had natural slagger, right, I mean I wasn't even

2023
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 1: a white man, right.

2024
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 6: Well that was like, you know, thirty years ago or

2025
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 6: whatever that was, you know, over thirty years ago. So

2026
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 6: it's all worked out. We're still together. I don't know

2027
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 6: what that says about her.

2028
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: You know you had some swagger though, man.

2029
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I guess so, I guess down.

2030
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 1: Down in Evansville, all right, right, I want to get

2031
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,759
Speaker 1: I want to go back to just in talking about

2032
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: this race in general, and you know, we talked about

2033
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 1: Denny Hamlin. Obviously Kyle Larson knows his way around this

2034
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: track as well. But is there somebody that you look

2035
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: at and you think to yourself, you know what, I

2036
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 1: feel like this driver might be just kind of like

2037
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: that caged animal that's about to break out. Things haven't

2038
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: gone their way, but just with the right break here there,

2039
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: their year could look totally different. Who jumps out at

2040
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: you in that capacity or description and.

2041
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 7: That category, it's Tyler Reddick.

2042
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 6: You know, he started on the poll last year in

2043
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 6: this race, he ended up finishing second, and he was

2044
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 6: the regular season champion last year. They haven't won this year.

2045
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 6: They're pretty much a lot for the playoffs. He's got

2046
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 6: an enormous advantage over the cut line that's not going

2047
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 6: to deteriorate.

2048
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 7: I don't think we're going.

2049
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 6: To get, you know, five more winners before the end

2050
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 6: of the regular season. So he's going to be a

2051
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 6: part of the playoffs.

2052
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 7: But they haven't won.

2053
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 6: And when you haven't won, it eats at you. And

2054
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 6: we know what he's capable of as a driver. He

2055
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 6: actually won one of those races on the road course

2056
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 6: in Indianapolis when we were racing there. But he's not

2057
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 6: done it in the Brickyard. His two starts there on

2058
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 6: the oval top ten and that runner up finish I

2059
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 6: mentioned a year ago, that's a team that I feel like,

2060
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,759
Speaker 6: if they could get it going, could make it happen.

2061
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 6: And you know, and his teammate Bubba Wallace is another

2062
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 6: driver to watch. Bubb has had, you know, sneaky good

2063
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 6: numbers at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and I feel like that,

2064
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 6: you know, they could have cars this weekend that could compete.

2065
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 6: Qualifying is going to be big because that pit road's

2066
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 6: tough and you want track position and then you also

2067
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 6: want a good pit stall selection.

2068
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 7: So that'll be big for those two drivers. But those

2069
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 7: are two to watch for sure.

2070
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 6: And when you talk about drivers that haven't won yet

2071
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 6: that need to get something going and could you know,

2072
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 6: jumpstart their season on Sunday, you know, and.

2073
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 1: With that when you talk about just track position in general.

2074
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:40,759
Speaker 1: Adam Adam Alexander our guest here joining US Colts Campus

2075
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: where I'm located here in Grand Park and Westfield, and

2076
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: Adam will be on the call for the brick card

2077
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: four hundred coming up Sunday. You know, there's always that narrative,

2078
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 1: Adam that the track the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, that the

2079
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: width of those cars, it's a difficult passing track. Do

2080
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 1: you buy into that, and you know, is there a

2081
01:37:57,640 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: particular driver that you look at and you go, you

2082
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 1: know what, you could say that, but that driver's figured

2083
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: out where to kind of cut those corners and make

2084
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: areas passing zones that others may not want to go into.

2085
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 7: Well, there's no.

2086
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 6: Doubt that that is a big deal at Indian It's

2087
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 6: very challenging for the drivers to pass there. And that's

2088
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 6: been a topic of conversation really since we went there

2089
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 6: for the first time, you know.

2090
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 7: Way back in the mid nineties.

2091
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 6: But I would say that you know, a couple of

2092
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,479
Speaker 6: drivers that I was put on that list. Kyle Larson

2093
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 6: has won and you know, he won this race last

2094
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 6: year and he just seems to it dapt and they

2095
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 6: had been on a little bit of a summertime slump,

2096
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 6: but he seemed to come out of that last week

2097
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 6: at Dover. Didn't win, but did some very Kyle Larson

2098
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 6: like things last week, and so my expectations for him

2099
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 6: or high this weekend. He's running the Saturday race and

2100
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 6: the Sunday race, so that extra track time probably.

2101
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 7: Will help him as well.

2102
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,799
Speaker 6: And someone else I think we need to be talking

2103
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 6: about is Chase Frisco. We know Indiana drivers have had

2104
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 6: success in the brickyard four hundred. We talk about Jeff Gordon,

2105
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 6: Tony Stewart, Ryan Newman. Chase Frisco won at Pocono. If

2106
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 6: you were to say what track on the schedule is

2107
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 6: like Indy, the one that is closest is Pocono, And

2108
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 6: it just feels like a lot.

2109
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 7: Is aligning right now. That team is running.

2110
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 6: Well second the last two weeks. I would keep my

2111
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 6: eye on Chase Frisco this weekend?

2112
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: Does it Pocono? Adam? And I might be thinking of

2113
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: Ontario back when it was still around, but I think

2114
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was Pocono that when it was designed,

2115
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 1: has one corner like one is exactly as Trenton was one?

2116
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: Is I think Ontario? And doesn't it have I think

2117
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 1: it's turned three in Pocono, is nine degrees twelve minutes

2118
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: and is specified to resemble the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Did

2119
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: I just make that up? Or am I remembering now correctly?

2120
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 6: No, you're right, and it's it's Trenton, which how you

2121
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 6: pulled Trenton, New Jersey out is amazing.

2122
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 7: That speaks to your weird brain.

2123
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 6: But yes, it's it's Trenton, it's Indianapolis and turn two

2124
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 6: the tunnel turn and then turn three model after the

2125
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 6: Milwaukee Mile. But yeah, there are characteristics that pass over

2126
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 6: for sure.

2127
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of my weird brain, before we let you go,

2128
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: Adam Alexander, you know, I have to play this. I've

2129
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 1: done it with Mac as well. So I remember, I

2130
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: still have like two tapes of when we did the

2131
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: short lived Jake and Adams show on w j Yell

2132
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: in high school. Now, I got fired from that show. Remember,

2133
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: I got in trouble and got suspended, And I know

2134
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 1: that's shocking to people that then you had to do

2135
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Speaker 1: the rest of the year by yourself, right, and that

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01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: how that worked out?

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01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 7: I feel like that jot was yeah, yeah.

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01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: So one night though, we're doing this show, and you know,

2139
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 1: I mean we had done like three of them, and

2140
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: we already had run out of stuff to talk about,

2141
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: so we didn't know what to do. And our buddy

2142
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Jason Venturi, who's dad Rick Venturi of course part of

2143
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: the Colts family. And Jason Ventury had a new keyboard.

2144
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: He was a musician, and his keyboard had some sound

2145
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: effect that sounded kind of like race cars. So we

2146
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: decided one night on the Jake and Adams Show that

2147
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: instead of the show itself, we would just do a

2148
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 1: two hour ad lib totally fake, made up off the

2149
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 1: top of our head. Indy five hundred. We had a

2150
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: crash on lap five with somebody that I think ended

2151
01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: up actually coming back and finishing third, which was, you know, miraculous.

2152
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: So Eddie's got it cued up. Here Here is Adam

2153
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: the last I think lap and a half for the

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01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: last lap of the always exciting nineteen ninety or nineteen

2155
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:14,479
Speaker 1: ninety one thereabout Fantasy Indy five hundred. This is Adam Alexander, myself,

2156
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: Mac Ingele, Chris Love is on the broadcast as well.

2157
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 1: Jason McCurry on the keyboards. Here we go trying to

2158
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: make his move.

2159
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 7: It's Bears, you can't do it.

2160
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: Got it up room.

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01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 7: Michael E.

2162
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 11: Treddy is working hard on Rick Bears right now. He

2163
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 11: is working hard. As Bear's engine begins to smoke. Michael

2164
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 11: and Reddy has says Rick Bears per session. Eddie cheever,

2165
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 11: now he's taken over two guys. He has got passport.

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01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:37,839
Speaker 1: That's sullivant.

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01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 11: I mean, ja'ms looking us moved up and now it's

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01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 11: in fish position as a sow Senior Michael Andreuddy Rick

2169
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 11: beerd Ban guy said, then Eddie Cheever, just de Scheever

2170
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 11: takes Sullivant, Sullivan takes Chieva right back, Daddy Sullivan, the

2171
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 11: great driver at the beautiful red white size shots.

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01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Stop back in the eighth place. Fack, you've got the race.

2173
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 7: Coming up, Holy Go.

2174
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:03,879
Speaker 3: Chamber all the way.

2175
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: Coming into dark Tree. Now. Needless to say, Adam Matt

2176
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: got overly excited.

2177
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 7: Right he did. He was in his moment there.

2178
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Now you were able to call in the Danny Sullivan

2179
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: red and white beautiful car, which is also a pretty

2180
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: good recall.

2181
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 6: Right there you go. I I didn't remember that, I

2182
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 6: remember doing that. And I got to say, like, when

2183
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 6: you think about, and I said earlier, the passion we

2184
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 6: have for this, that right there illustrates what it meant

2185
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 6: to us.

2186
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 7: We just couldn't get enough.

2187
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 6: And you know, to come in that night and do that,

2188
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 6: and that's pretty cool to pull that tape.

2189
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 7: Up when you think about where we are and what

2190
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 7: we're doing now.

2191
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 1: Well and in particular how bad we were. But it

2192
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: was fun, and you know, I think it also I

2193
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 1: think it also speaks to our swagger at him because

2194
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: needless to say me, you and Mack were just absolutely

2195
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: lady killers back then by broadcasting cord dout fake any

2196
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 1: five hundred right, that's.

2197
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, yeah, when you do that with your evenings,

2198
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 6: it speaks to.

2199
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 7: What your social life is all about in high school.

2200
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,120
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. We had a ton of fun, though,

2201
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: I will say that Mac. The schedule of events in

2202
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: terms of everything taking place at IMS this weekend, and

2203
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: in particular your coverage and when it all gets underway.

2204
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we'll have practice on Friday for both the

2205
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 6: Infinity and Cup Series, and on the Cup side that'll.

2206
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 7: Be on True TV.

2207
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 6: I think we're on the air at one o'clock Eastern

2208
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 6: time there at the track on Friday, and then on

2209
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 6: Saturday we've got qualifying for the Brickyard four hundred. We'll

2210
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 6: have to c W coverage for the NASCAR Exfinity race.

2211
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 6: I think we're on the air four o'clock Eastern time

2212
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 6: with that event late Saturday afternoon, and then Sunday NASCAR

2213
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 6: on TNT NASCAR Nation on the air at one o'clock

2214
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 6: getting you ready for the Brickyard four hundred, and we'll

2215
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 6: be green shortly after two from the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,

2216
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 6: and I'm hoping, I'm hoping that the rain stays away

2217
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 6: because I'm going to hang a day and come out

2218
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 6: the Colts camp on Monday.

2219
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 7: That's my plan anyway, So I'm.

2220
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 1: Hoping it all is out. Bring your speedo. It's warm here,

2221
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: not that it's not North Carolina, but it's warm here,

2222
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: you know. So there you go, all right, Adam, Hey,

2223
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 1: obviously say hello to your dad, say hello to Audit

2224
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: for me as well, and hopefully we'll see you this weekend.

2225
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing IndyCar in Monterey, but also we'll be around

2226
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: Monday as well, so probably we'll see you over the

2227
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: course of the weekend. But I appreciate the time. All right,

2228
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: travel safe, Thanks so much.

2229
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 7: Shake you guys.

2230
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 3: Have a good one, all right.

2231
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 1: Adam Alexander joining us on the program again. T and

2232
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: T coming up on Sunday, and then as he mentioned,

2233
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 1: c W for the Exfinity race as well, the pins

2234
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: Oil two fifty. I mentioned last night that I was

2235
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: out at Hinkle and you know, Adam and I actually

2236
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 1: some of those games we had a lot of fun.

2237
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 1: And I remember when North Central got beat in ninety one,

2238
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 1: we were doing you know, radio for North Central. They

2239
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 1: got beat by Southport and I can still recall, and

2240
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: my memory is weird. I mean, I admit it's kind

2241
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: of bizarre, but and I always felt bad about this.

2242
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 1: There was a kid for Southport I believe his name

2243
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,120
Speaker 1: was Dan von Dilligan, and we called him Dan On

2244
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 1: von Dealini. For some reason, we had his name, we

2245
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: just didn't know the correct pronunciation of his name. So

2246
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: if anybody out there is from Southport and knows Dan

2247
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: von Diligan, if he's still in the area, please apologize

2248
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 1: that we called him Dan von Delini for like two

2249
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: years in basketball, but they had I could still remember

2250
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: that team from Southport. William Moore was on that team

2251
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: that William Moore actually was when I was a junior.

2252
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 1: My senior year, it would have been George hamp Hill

2253
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: was a really good player. Shaka Lands was a really

2254
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: good player. Dan von Deligan was good, Brad Courtney was

2255
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 1: a big man that was a good player, and their

2256
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 1: anchor that was really good. And I thought one of

2257
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: the most underappreciated high school basketball players in the area

2258
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: was Marlon Fleming and he was like six' four two thirty,

2259
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: five lightning quick on his. Feet but those games At

2260
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: hinkle were so much fun and so much magic for,

2261
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 1: us and it was such a, thrill which is why

2262
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: last night WHEN i was At hinkle, nostalgically as it

2263
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 1: is any time you walk into that, venue it is

2264
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: super cool AND i was thrilled to be. There and

2265
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 1: the guy that helped put it all together last night

2266
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 1: and made it possible for me and others to be

2267
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: able to watch basketball At hinkle In july came up

2268
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: to say, hi AND i, said you know, What i'd

2269
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: love to get you on the show BECAUSE i love

2270
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 1: the brainstorm of this idea from twelve years ago in

2271
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,480
Speaker 1: what it's turned into. Today he put together THE. Tbt

2272
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 1: it came Through hinkle last night And danfield joins us.

2273
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: NEXT i mentioned last, night and by the, way we

2274
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: will get you caught up to speed on everything that

2275
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: took place this. Morning it's been some three hours since

2276
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 1: practice wrapped up here for The. Colts there were two

2277
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: items of note in terms of players that were getting

2278
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 1: reps at the starting position and reps throughout the course

2279
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: of this the first practice for twenty twenty. FIVE i

2280
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 1: will let you know what that is coming up about

2281
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes from, now BUT i wanted to revisit WHAT

2282
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 1: i was talking about from last. Night my Buddy marshall

2283
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:56,600
Speaker 1: lives In colorado and just started following THE tbt basketball

2284
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 1: tournament because he loved the fact that it gave him

2285
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: sports viewing option in the. Summertime so he got really into,

2286
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 1: it started watching. It was excited about the fact That

2287
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:09,719
Speaker 1: indiana And butler both had teams in, it and bought

2288
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 1: tickets for the activity At Hincklefield. House and last night

2289
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: we went and watched, it and even though it was

2290
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: not the teams of our rooting interest per, se it

2291
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 1: was a super fun game and a lot of that

2292
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: because of the elam, ending which we will talk about

2293
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,760
Speaker 1: with a gentleman, who AS i was sitting watching the

2294
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: game last, night came up and was nice enough to

2295
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: make his, introduction AND i, said you know, WHAT i

2296
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: totally appreciate you coming up and saying, hi And i'd

2297
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 1: like to know more about the development of this. League

2298
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 1: in this, tournament we'll call it a tournament for more

2299
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,600
Speaker 1: so than a. League dan fille joins me now on the.

2300
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 1: Program he is In New. Orleans he is a co

2301
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:45,280
Speaker 1: founder AND i BELIEVE. Ceo now you tell Me dan

2302
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 1: IF i have that title correct intern of in terms

2303
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: of THE. Tbt but if, not Then i'm giving it to.

2304
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: YOU ceo and co founder of the. Leagues that sound, Good.

2305
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,519
Speaker 8: I'll take co FOUNDER ceo is probably my Buddy, john

2306
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 8: but you, know co founder general COUNSEL i probably won't

2307
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 8: every hat that we have at some point over the

2308
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 8: twelve years that we've been doing, This, jake BUT i

2309
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 8: really appreciate you having me on and TALKING tbt for.

2310
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: Sure, WELL i want to go back to this because you,

2311
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 1: know just in talking to you last, NIGHT i could

2312
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: tell right Away i'm, Like i'd like to know more about,

2313
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: this and that, is you, know this, tournament WHICH i

2314
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: think people are becoming more and more familiar with, it

2315
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: partially because of the advantage of it taking place in the.

2316
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: SUMMERTIME i think that's very smart, strategically and obviously schedule

2317
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 1: wise works out for the. Athletes but take me through the,

2318
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: genesis you, know a decade plus two ago of how

2319
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: this all came, about and whether or not you ever

2320
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 1: envisioned it being at the level it is.

2321
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 8: Today, HONESTLY i think we knew it would be, popular

2322
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 8: But it wasn't like we were trying to create a business, Idea.

2323
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 7: Jake it was just two buddies that you.

2324
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 8: Know i've Known john since we were, Twelve John, ugar

2325
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 8: and it was sort of like the modern day equivalent

2326
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 8: of two guys sitting around a bar and talking about

2327
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 8: sports and what you would do differently if you could

2328
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 8: start it from. Scratch and it just started over text an,

2329
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 8: email and that kind of continued for about a year

2330
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 8: and a. Half we were both working and from totally different,

2331
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 8: careers not working in sports at, all but we were

2332
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 8: huge sports fans and former college, athletes and we definitely

2333
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,600
Speaker 8: knew sports pretty, well we. Thought and the more we

2334
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 8: started emailing and texting and kind of coming up with this,

2335
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 8: idea but the more we honed in on the concept

2336
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 8: OF tvt and it has, become you, know kind of

2337
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 8: hopefully a staple in the summer that you, know certainly

2338
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 8: hardcore basketball fans know, about they, watch they really, enjoy

2339
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 8: AND i think we're really starting to break through with

2340
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 8: sort of just casual fans as. Well it's an event

2341
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 8: that has some unique elements to. It it's got a

2342
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 8: lot of ashion and you're, probably as you saw last,

2343
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 8: night it's got their most unique ENDING i think in

2344
01:49:36,040 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 8: all the sports with the elam, ending.

2345
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Well the elam ending is fascinating because and for those

2346
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 1: that are, unfamiliar what that means is this last, night

2347
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: with four minutes to go in the, game it was

2348
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 1: a sixty two to forty six score and Fail, harder

2349
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: which is a team of Predominantly indiana based, players was

2350
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: up sixteen on a team from Predominantly ohio based. Players

2351
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: but the magic number with the elam ending becomes eight

2352
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 1: points higher than whatever the lead score. Is so with

2353
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 1: four minutes, left you kind of reset everything and it's.

2354
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 1: Okay first to seventy wins the. Game what was fascinating

2355
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: about it to Me dan was the defensive intensity and

2356
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,919
Speaker 1: somewhat the strategy that then, changed and the Way ohio

2357
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: was able to then go on a little mini run

2358
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden they've made a run

2359
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: where it's like sixty six sixty, two and you know

2360
01:50:23,479 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: that you know the one team needs four more, points

2361
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: but the other is is on a serious push, here

2362
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: and then it becomes really kind of, tense, RIGHT i,

2363
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: mean it was like everybody's kind of clutching their knuckles

2364
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 1: As fail harder is trying to get that last elusive

2365
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: last two, baskets which they ended up getting in. Advancing

2366
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 1: but that strategy of, it to, me completely changed the

2367
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: tone of that game in the last four, minutes which was.

2368
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 8: Cool, YEAH i, mean that's a game last, night the

2369
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 8: one that you saw that if it's a it's a

2370
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 8: standard ending to a basketball. Game it's just at the

2371
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 8: best case scenario is that it becomes a free throw

2372
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 8: fest and then That Carmen's Crew ohio team has an

2373
01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,240
Speaker 8: opportunity to get it within a few points, maybe but

2374
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 8: realistically it's probably just going to get played out and

2375
01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:10,879
Speaker 8: the game is. Over but because the elam ending requires

2376
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 8: you to play to that target, score which last night was,

2377
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 8: seventy both of those teams have a. Chance it's sort

2378
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 8: of like baseball where you have and you're. Not As

2379
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 8: Yogi berra, said it ain't over till it's. Over that's

2380
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 8: definitely true with the elam. Ending so That Carmen's crew,

2381
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 8: team the team From, ohio they basically just got about

2382
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 8: five to, six, seven eight stops in a row, defensively

2383
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 8: and then every time that they came down the, court they,

2384
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 8: scored so they got the game close like you, said

2385
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 8: sixty six sixty, TWO i think was where it got

2386
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 8: at its closest, point and you could feel the. Intensity

2387
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 8: everybody's on their feet anticipating that final. Basket everybody in

2388
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 8: the stands was excited about, it And carmen's crew made

2389
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 8: it interesting towards the. End now, obviously like there's sometimes

2390
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 8: where that team that's behind has a chance to actually win,

2391
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 8: it and they do win, it and when that, happens

2392
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 8: it's just. Pandemonium and that, happens you, know more often

2393
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 8: than it would. Otherwise for.

2394
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: Sure listen the last four minutes of that, Game, DAN i,

2395
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: mean it was like a light switch went off in

2396
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: terms of the intensity of, it, right especially, defensively which was,

2397
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: cool and then you Got Lance stevenson going crazy on every.

2398
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: BASKET i, mean it was. Fun it was a great,

2399
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: environment AND i, thought and this is WHAT i wanted

2400
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 1: to touch, on AND i GUESS i want to thank

2401
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: you for, This and maybe this was by Design you're

2402
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: happy to, have you, know you want obviously anybody to

2403
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: enjoy THE, Tbt BUT i thought it was kind of

2404
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: symbolic of what you walked up, on and that was

2405
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: three guys that grew up together that grew up playing.

2406
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Basketball we played twenty one And knockout and all that

2407
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: in the, driveway and we're at three different, places and you,

2408
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 1: know we're all the same, age but living you, Know

2409
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 1: marshall living elsewhere and coming back and just being able

2410
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 1: to go and sit and tell old war stories and

2411
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,679
Speaker 1: watch basketball and watch guys that are still being able

2412
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: to play at a high level but not doing so

2413
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 1: necessarily for the school that they once played. FOR i

2414
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 1: thought it was perfectly. Symbolic And i'm curious if that

2415
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: was kind of the envision of what you had in

2416
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: mind twelve years.

2417
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 8: Ago, YEAH i, mean, honestly like your, Story jake's real

2418
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 8: similar to mine And. John's you, know we were living

2419
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 8: in two different, states and we've been friends since we were.

2420
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 8: Twelve we grew up playing with football and basketball and you,

2421
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 8: know air hockey and everything else that teenage boys. Do

2422
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 8: AND i think so, often you, know as men like

2423
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 8: we get into adulthood and those opportunities to kind of

2424
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 8: congregate get together have, disappeared you, Know and so what

2425
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 8: we really wanted to do WITH tvt was bringing back

2426
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 8: something that's, enjoyable that's, fun that is, intense you, know

2427
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 8: like when you when you get to a tvt, game

2428
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 8: it's you're seeing the best that the players have in

2429
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 8: terms of stopping the other. Team there's actual defense being.

2430
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 8: Paid the only team that wins the money at the

2431
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 8: end of this tournament is a team that wins. It

2432
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 8: and so the result of that is that you're getting

2433
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 8: to see the type of, basketball the type of sporting

2434
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 8: event that you, remember you, know from the from the

2435
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 8: eighties or the. Nineties you, KNOW i remember watching watching

2436
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 8: The celtics all throughout the. Eighties we grew up In,

2437
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 8: Boston john AND i, did and that what we're trying

2438
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 8: to encourage is that type of. Play you, know every possession.

2439
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 8: Matters AND i think whether you're a casual, fan or

2440
01:53:57,160 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 8: you're somebody like You jake that does as we're, living

2441
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 8: Or Lance stevenson that is AN nba, veteran you can

2442
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 8: go to these, games watch these games ON, tv and

2443
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 8: get excited about what's happening because it's something that is

2444
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 8: so natural to the. Humans eyche they want to experience

2445
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 8: and view people competing at the highest possible intensity that they.

2446
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: Have so you had it At. Hinkle the teams that

2447
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: were coming Into. HINKLE i mean. Obviously you, know we

2448
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: talked about this AND i mentioned it earlier on the.

2449
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 1: SHOW i Mean indiana And butler having alumni teams and

2450
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 1: getting bounced. Early it probably does hurt At gate a little,

2451
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: BIT i, Realize but the travel and the things that

2452
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: go into making it possible for these teams like fail harder.

2453
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 1: NOW i know last time we were talking about where

2454
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: they advance in this, tournament and they were waiting to

2455
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 1: see what happened In wichita last. Night but in terms

2456
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: of the advance of the, tournament you start out with

2457
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: how many teams and who is funding for the travel

2458
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: of these teams throughout the. Tournament that culminates where so three.

2459
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 8: Questions, yeah it's sixty four. Teams you, know it's basically

2460
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 8: like What March madness is set up as a single elimination.

2461
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 8: Tournament sixty four teams had eight locations all around the,

2462
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 8: country and within those eight, locations you've got eight teams

2463
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 8: in each spot and they play down to one sort

2464
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 8: of regional. Champion this, year what we're doing is we

2465
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 8: have essentially home court. Advantage each of the regionals that

2466
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 8: we play in has usually an alumni team that is

2467
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 8: the sort of Anchor, tenant you, know if you're talking

2468
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 8: about what a mall would look. Like so In kentucky

2469
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,879
Speaker 8: In lexington there we had The university Of kentucky alumni.

2470
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 8: Team In, louisville we had a U ofl alumni, team

2471
01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 8: and obviously in The indianapolis we had. Two we were

2472
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 8: blessed to have. Two we had The butler alumni team In.

2473
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 8: Indiana what will happen now is that this Fail harder

2474
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 8: team that is now the regional champion In, indianapolis they're

2475
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 8: going to travel out To. Wichita they're going to play

2476
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 8: the regional champion From, syracuse which will be crowned. Tonight up,

2477
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 8: there we've got A yukon alumni team that advanced to

2478
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 8: the third, round as well as a team that has

2479
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 8: made up exclusively of players that Played division three. Basketball

2480
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 8: they're CALLED vred. Three and so the winner of that

2481
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 8: regional will play Fail harder out In wichita as part

2482
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 8: of a double header out there in front of The,

2483
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 8: aftershocks which is A Wichita state alumni. Team but, yeah

2484
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 8: these teams fund. THEMSELVES i mean they come together every.

2485
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 8: Summer there are dedicated and passionate people behind these teams

2486
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 8: that organize them that recruit the. Players if it's an alumni,

2487
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 8: team you, know they're looking for players that all went

2488
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 8: to the same. School if it's a non alumni team

2489
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 8: Like Fail harder, is they're looking to go get the

2490
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 8: best basketball players that they can, find and so they

2491
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 8: just come together naturally on their. Own they find their funding.

2492
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 8: Sources sometimes they make, money sometimes they, don't but you,

2493
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 8: know for, them it's the. Passion one of the guys

2494
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 8: that's organizing The Fail harder team Is Jake. Mills kyle

2495
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 8: guy as, well But Jake mills has been on site

2496
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:42,080
Speaker 8: AND i Watched jake at courtside and you can tell

2497
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 8: he's got a lot invested in, this not just emotionally but,

2498
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 8: financially you, know and you can see that as he

2499
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 8: goes crazy on the. Sidelines it's an awesome thing to

2500
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 8: see the level of passion and intensity and just fandom

2501
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 8: that even the people organizing these teams have for the begame.

2502
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 1: Itself so moving forward now that the so basically where

2503
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 1: The sweet sixteen the championship will be played, where, well that.

2504
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 8: Depends it really depends on who. Wins so If whichita

2505
01:57:06,960 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 8: continues to, Win Dill host all the way, through there's

2506
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 8: A West virginia alumni team that's playing In, charleston and

2507
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 8: they'll continue to. Host but we've got to see where

2508
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 8: these games shake. Out if we don't have a, host

2509
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 8: team that advances in the championship is going to be

2510
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 8: In louisville At bellamine Or. Bellamino.

2511
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: Okay, now, lastly and again we're talking about THE tvt

2512
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 1: that took place last night At hinkle and Fail, harder

2513
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: the team put together By Kyle guy is the team

2514
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:35,920
Speaker 1: that has advanced out Of. Hinkle will this Return Dan

2515
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: friel FROM? Tvt will this event return To indianapolis next?

2516
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 1: YEAR i. Hope.

2517
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 8: SO i can't say definitively yet where we're going to

2518
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 8: be because every year we kind of assess everything that

2519
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 8: we're doing and figure out where we. Are BUT i

2520
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 8: Love hinkel AND i, think AS i told you last,

2521
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 8: Night hinkle was on our bucket list early early, on

2522
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 8: like before this event even, launched as a place that

2523
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 8: we want to play these. Games this is such a

2524
01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,600
Speaker 8: fantastic facility and such a gift to the city In New,

2525
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 8: orleans the city Of. INDIANAPOLIS i should say That butler

2526
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 8: has maintained that facility as well as it has and

2527
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 8: they keep it in commerce because it's just is an

2528
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 8: absolutely incredible.

2529
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: Facility, WELL i thought it was. GREAT i thought the

2530
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:13,680
Speaker 1: action was. FUN i thought it was, exciting and in

2531
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: addition to, that there was a camaraderie and a respect

2532
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 1: amongst all the. Players you didn't get some of the

2533
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: knuckleheadedness you get, sometimes and fans enjoyed. It everybody was

2534
01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:23,920
Speaker 1: having a good time and reminiscing and watching good basketball as.

2535
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 1: Well SO i wanted to come have you. On thank

2536
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:28,120
Speaker 1: you for, it and hopefully we'll have it out here

2537
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: again next, year but we'll watch to see what happens

2538
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: for the remainder of this tournament in twenty.

2539
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 7: Five that sounds.

2540
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Great thank you so, much appreciate it very much, Again Dan,

2541
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: friel who is one of the co founders for THE Tbt,

2542
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: tournament we'll come. BACK i will recap for you everything

2543
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,480
Speaker 1: that took place At Colts camp in practice number one

2544
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: here as we are underway for training Camp Grand park In.

2545
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: Westfield will hand it off To john as. Well. NEXT

2546
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: a side of my Maturity eddie as a broadcaster is

2547
01:58:57,160 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: the fact that you just played that song AND i

2548
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 1: did not immediately tell you about HOW i had screwed

2549
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 1: up the lyrics to that for the vast majority of

2550
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 1: my life except you just are you proud of? Me,

2551
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: well but it wasn't the first THING i. MENTIONED i

2552
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: rather pointed out the sign of my, maturity, right.

2553
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah what's next to YOUR i don't know your? Humility

2554
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:17,320
Speaker 2: is that what we're going?

2555
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 1: With, WELL i, MEAN i will, say for as sticky

2556
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 1: and thick as the air is, TODAY i was just

2557
01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: looking at a video of my you, KNOW i could

2558
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 1: look over and see the shot of myself here At

2559
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Colts camp And god slightly turned on because this looks.

2560
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:38,720
Speaker 1: Good i'm obviously being. Facetious it is a warm one for,

2561
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: certain which is why The colts probably were done at

2562
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock this morning ten and til eleven was practiced.

2563
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: Today thank you To Alec pierce for his. TIME i

2564
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 1: got to thinking about, this and you, know sometimes when

2565
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 1: you conduct an interview where you talk to, somebody it's

2566
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: after the fact that something hits you and you're like.

2567
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Man AND i would not have asked him, this, obviously

2568
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 1: BUT i think that we automatically assume when a player

2569
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 1: is entering a free agency year that that player wants to.

2570
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 1: Return And Alec pierce did kind of mention early in

2571
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: his career just you, know some of the challenges of

2572
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 1: different head coaches and then you, know obviously different quarterbacks as.

2573
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 1: Well when you look at the fact that he is

2574
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 1: a guy that is entering his fourth, year looks to

2575
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: be in great. Shape last, YEAR i thought really made

2576
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:32,080
Speaker 1: big strides and took a big. Step and then you

2577
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:35,879
Speaker 1: look at the situation with The, colts you ask, yourself

2578
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:41,280
Speaker 1: are we certain that he would want to, return because

2579
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 1: if you are entering into free agency and we just

2580
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: saw it With Miles turner all of a, sudden like it's, like,

2581
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 1: well wait a, MINUTE i had no idea that was

2582
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: going to come out of left. Field but is there

2583
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:57,960
Speaker 1: another team out there that looks At Alec pearson says

2584
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: that guy is the missing piece for our, quarterback and

2585
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: we think he would slot perfectly with what we want to.

2586
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: Do and we have a quarterback that has a lot

2587
02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 1: more consistency and a lot more certainty about who and

2588
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 1: what they are than the situation that is brewing In.

2589
02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:20,360
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and if you are taking passes From Daniel jones

2590
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 1: And Anthony, richardson both of which basically split even today

2591
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 1: fifty to. Fifty the starting reps for The colts had,

2592
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: quarterback But Daniel jones started the practice sessions with the first,

2593
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: unit but they alternated back and. Forth both had good,

2594
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 1: Moments both had moments that you'd like. Back there was

2595
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: not a clear cut definitive leader amongst the. Two both

2596
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 1: were taking snaps From, bordolini WHO i think is very

2597
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 1: safe to say if healthy is going to be their

2598
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,760
Speaker 1: starting center Over Danny, pencer and both of them were

2599
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:55,919
Speaker 1: throwing to an area where they looked. Over they noticed

2600
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 1: the Rookie wally at the quarterback. Position that was THE

2601
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: i pick out Of minnesota Over Jalen jones because he

2602
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: was getting Was wally the starting reps at the corner

2603
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 1: position Over jones And Juju. Brentz that really is kind

2604
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 1: of the overwhelming storyline from. Today but if You're Alec,

2605
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 1: pierce and, yes you can, say, look it doesn't matter to.

2606
02:02:16,160 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 1: Me they look the same whether the ball is coming

2607
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,280
Speaker 1: out of the hands Of Anthony richardson Or Daniel. Jones

2608
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: but what, if just, hypothetically what if A chargers come,

2609
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 1: calling or A bengals come, calling or A texans come.

2610
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 1: Calling do you, say if You're Alec. Pierce look at

2611
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 1: least in those, PLACES i know exactly who's going to

2612
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: be throwing me the, ball AND i know exactly where

2613
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 1: the ball is going to be, coming and it's going

2614
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:46,760
Speaker 1: to be the same guy over and over and, over

2615
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: AND i know the ball is going to be where

2616
02:02:48,240 --> 02:02:50,160
Speaker 1: it needs to. Be it's not going to be over

2617
02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 1: my head and it's not going to be at my.

2618
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 1: FEET i don't, know AND i don't think that's the.

2619
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 1: Case but we automatically assume that players that are free

2620
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:06,200
Speaker 1: agents are going to and want to. Return but did

2621
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:09,720
Speaker 1: we not learn in the last couple of months in

2622
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 1: this town that sometimes free agency can have surprises of their.

2623
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:16,520
Speaker 1: Own NOW i say, that and watch, tomorrow we'll probably

2624
02:03:16,520 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 1: find out That Alec pierce has. Resigned but it was

2625
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 1: a good interview, though AND i Appreciated Alec pierce's. Time

2626
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:24,640
Speaker 1: nearly twenty minutes that will be available in podcast form

2627
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 1: on the. Website also again Reminder fever going to be

2628
02:03:28,200 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 1: wearing The Stranger things jerseys and a good conversation about

2629
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 1: that as. Well out Of alexander joined us Zach. Ostroman

2630
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 1: Eddie garrison was back in. Studio john is up next

2631
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:42,200
Speaker 1: and we'll recap again what happened here in day number,

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02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: one practice number one for The. Colts we'll be back

2633
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:47,320
Speaker 1: with you at noon tomorrow tentatively scheduled right. Now Bernard

2634
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 1: ryman going to join, US i believe, tomorrow but we'll.

2635
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: See but some player in some form or fashion will

2636
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:55,960
Speaker 1: join us tomorrow as. Well stay, cool. Everybody thanks for

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02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 1: listening To query And. Company