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Speaker 1: The people are telling the politicians what they want or

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Speaker 1: don't want in this case, and for some reason they

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Speaker 2: They just plow straight ahead.

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Speaker 1: This is a fascinating new poll, by the way, it's

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Speaker 1: Ketil and Casey show and Rob that's Casey. Another poll

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Speaker 1: has come out on redistricting in Indiana and it says

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Speaker 1: basically the exact same thing that every other public poll

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Speaker 1: that has been released on this has shown. And this

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Speaker 1: poll is fascinating because of how weighted it was to

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Speaker 1: the Republicans and even what they heavily weighted Republican poll,

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Speaker 1: which largely reflects I think the makeup of our state

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a second. Overwhelmingly people

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Speaker 1: are against redistricting in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, opposition is stronger than support. Fifty one percent of

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Speaker 3: voters oppose early redistricting, forty five percent are strongly opposed,

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Speaker 3: with only thirty nine in support. The most interesting thing

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Speaker 3: to me in this entire poll was that sixty three

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Speaker 3: pc of voters are following redistricting news very closely, with

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Speaker 3: Democrats being more engaged than Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the stath that's interesting in this and when

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Speaker 1: I kind of look at these polls, what you look

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Speaker 1: at is the strong right, because if people are flimsy,

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we can do this, get away with it,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But forty five percent that are strongly

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Speaker 1: opposed to compared to twenty three percent who are strongly

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Speaker 1: on the side of being against people who would be

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Speaker 1: motivated by the action. Sometimes you can do things and

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, I feel this way, but it's not

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Speaker 1: something that's really going to, you know, trigger me to

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Speaker 1: act one way or another. In this case, you've got

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Speaker 1: people who by a two to one margin feel very

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Speaker 1: with a great level of intensity in the anti camp

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Speaker 1: Mike Braun will not let it go.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting you bring that up because you know,

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Speaker 3: Rob in my throughout my career, I've done some polling.

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Speaker 3: Most of the time it's music based. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: what you look at is the very polar opinions, because

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Speaker 3: if you're in the middle, yeah, you're just kind of whatever, right,

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Speaker 3: But it's the ones that are in the end strongly

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Speaker 3: opposed strongly in favor. That's the one that you pay

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Speaker 3: attention to because those are the people that really have

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Speaker 3: strong opinions and are motivated by it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they went into this by the ways,

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Speaker 1: Bell Weather Research, it's a well known polling firm. The

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Speaker 1: pollster was Christine Matthews. That is not a name that

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Speaker 1: probably means a lot to most people, but that is

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Speaker 1: another known pollster in the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: So I mean these are known now.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it was done for the Indiana Conservation

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Speaker 1: Voters Group. But again, I come back to the waiting

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Speaker 1: of the polling. That's what I always kind of look at.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you get polls where the numbers are skewed. It's

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Speaker 1: forty nine percent Republican, thirty five percent Democrat, sixteen listed

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Speaker 1: as independent, and that I think mostly mirrors the makeup

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Speaker 1: of our state. If you look at our voting results, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's what fifty four to fifty five percent

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Speaker 1: in terms of the makeup, it's pretty accurate. In terms

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Speaker 1: forty five percent of.

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Speaker 2: The people we're Democrats.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's it's a pretty fair makeup of the voting

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Speaker 2: Now, they also asked about the.

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Speaker 1: Political leaders in the state, and I thought that the

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Speaker 1: results of this give credence to the rest of what

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Speaker 1: else they're saying about redistricting, because if you gave me

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Speaker 1: a pull that said, well, people are overwhelmingly against redistricting redistricting,

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Speaker 1: but they've also so got Donald trumpet minus twenty favorability.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna okay, then that's that's this huge sample.

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Speaker 1: But they came out with a fifty percent favorable on

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, forty five percent unfavorable, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: It's interesting that this poll was done after Governor Braun's

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Speaker 3: special session announcement, so this is with you know, wheels

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Speaker 3: less likely to vote for a legislator who supports redistricting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they asked about the some of these other politicians,

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Speaker 1: Thirty two percent favorable, fifty percent unfavorable, And that pretty

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Speaker 1: and that was in the ballpark. And then they did

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Speaker 1: at sixteen percent favorable thirty two percent unfavorable. So basically

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Speaker 1: twice as many people don't like the guy as due.

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Speaker 2: And again I look at this and I say.

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Speaker 1: That's probably pretty spot on on where we're at in

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Speaker 1: So it gives a lot of credence to what they're

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Speaker 3: Yeap, So twenty six percent are unsure despite ninety percent

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Speaker 3: viewing Trump favorable among GOP voters, twenty six percent are

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Speaker 3: still saying, yeah, I don't know about this.

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Speaker 1: And then it comes back to and by the way,

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Speaker 1: WTHR also has results on that. Like many many media

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Speaker 1: something about the poll. As we said, fifty one percent

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Speaker 1: say the state is on the wrong track. That's compared

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Speaker 1: to twenty seven percent saying it's on the right track. Now,

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Speaker 1: this should be a wake up call to the Democrats

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Speaker 1: to the thing that we've been saying, which is, and

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Speaker 1: they should be absolutely just hammering home. If you can

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Speaker 1: reasonable solutions, you got a good chance to win. Now

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Speaker 1: that's a huge ask for the Democrats because they nominate

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Speaker 1: when you've got fifty one percent of the of the

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Speaker 1: that's a do drop in invitation. Because then inside of

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Speaker 1: this poll, seventy two percent of the people said that

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Speaker 1: they would prefer lawmakers spend this session focusing on property

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Speaker 1: So the three big ones or energy costs, property taxes.

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Speaker 2: And safety. And we've been saying that for how long?

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Speaker 2: This whole time.

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Speaker 1: This is why people are outraged. This is a major

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Speaker 1: reason people don't want redistricting. As they look at this

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Speaker 1: and go, my property taxes are out of control. You guys,

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Speaker 1: promise to fix it. You pass to bill. Everyone hates

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Speaker 1: my utility bills are doubling or tripling.

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Speaker 2: You're not doing anything to stop it.

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Speaker 1: We just found out, you know, Duke's coming back for

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Speaker 1: this massive rate increase that's basically been approved. These lawmakers

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Speaker 1: are telling the constituents on things that actually matter, which

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Speaker 1: is the affordability of living, which we just saw on

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Speaker 1: the exit polling of the Virginia, New Jersey, California elections

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Speaker 1: that was the number one issue for people is the

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Speaker 1: affordability of living.

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Speaker 2: And they're not doing anything about that.

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Speaker 3: No, they it's the kitchen table issues that resonate with voters,

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Speaker 3: not redistricting. And there's plenty of argument there that says, hey,

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Speaker 3: lawmakers focus on everyday concerns and you'll win.

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Speaker 2: But they won't do that, no, and that angers people.

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Speaker 1: But then it comes back to the Democrat inability to

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Speaker 1: nominate people, not that.

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Speaker 2: That can connect.

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Speaker 1: They can't even get people that the average person will consider.

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Speaker 1: They're so crazy. And so if you're that grandma that

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Speaker 1: runs the Democrat Party, now what's her face that has

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Speaker 1: Noah Karen? They have a literal Karen running the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: You gotta take the ruler out and start smacking some

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Speaker 1: hands and going, look at this.

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Speaker 2: It's right there to be had. It's right there for

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Speaker 2: us to take.

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Speaker 1: People hate these Republicans, they hate the job they're doing.

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Speaker 1: But we are a non starter. A bunch of merchandidates

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Speaker 1: are total non starters with them to the point they

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Speaker 1: feel like they got to vote for people they don't like.

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Speaker 3: Ye