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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of The Fame Second Podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember the evening. My name is Mike, next me. I

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<v Speaker 2>have Spikes, Spike, I have Ken, can have Rock.

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<v Speaker 3>We row down your review immediately. You know we're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to get through this.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are reviewing the movie Slanted. I would admit

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<v Speaker 2>this was my suggestion because there really wasn't any movies

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<v Speaker 2>that were coming out this week. I saw the trailer

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<v Speaker 2>for this, and I was like, Okay, that could be

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting conversation. We're gonna quickly go around the room. Spike,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think of Slanted?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>It was fine, no surprises, Like it was very predictable.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my biggest takeaway. Like, the whole time I

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<v Speaker 4>was sitting there, I knew what was gonna happen next.

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<v Speaker 2>So damn psychic in this, Ken, you trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>like right a little bit X men in training? Okay, Ken?

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<v Speaker 2>I had two responses, don't you do no racist ship, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not like.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole face saw When I got one response, respond.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I'm not, you know, I'm not. What's what's the

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<v Speaker 5>Tim McGraw, I'm not a racist?

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<v Speaker 3>Tira was lying too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when it was.

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<v Speaker 5>Over with, I think there's a predictability of it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it's fairly obviously. You don't have to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a genius to figure it out. I love the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that we get to see them tell their story from

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<v Speaker 5>another perspective. I think so when I got home, and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I always think about, like, what was the.

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<v Speaker 1>Question that was asked?

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, oh, yeah, that was cool, and that was

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<v Speaker 5>the thing I said. It was good to see like

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<v Speaker 5>another side of the story. It's often I'm often watching

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<v Speaker 5>them through mod lens of the story about what it's

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<v Speaker 5>like to be black. So I thought that was cool.

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<v Speaker 5>The lady when the movie was over said, this ship

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<v Speaker 5>was stupid as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>That was sitting over there for.

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<v Speaker 5>Me and like that and she sounded of black. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>she was like, this is stupidest. I guess it was

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<v Speaker 5>the ending that kind of threw off. There wasn't a real,

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<v Speaker 5>like firm resolution to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, man, I had to go see that

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<v Speaker 5>stupid ass movie because I had to cram it in.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was more the frustration of acting a lot

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<v Speaker 5>and my weekend and less about.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie being stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>But Uh, but it was interesting watching their their story

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<v Speaker 5>being told, but it wasn't really a lot there and

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<v Speaker 5>all lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Stupid me Rob, what do you think of slanting?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm kind of like where Mike Spike is like, it

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<v Speaker 6>was fine, It looked like it was fine, but you

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<v Speaker 6>had to suspen a lot of belief, like just something

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<v Speaker 6>the stuff that was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Changed it to a white lady? Were talking about fucking happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson did?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, yeah, but but that's not even the same.

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<v Speaker 6>It's what we do person shade. I thought, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I just looked at it. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why I didn't look at that and suspending

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<v Speaker 5>the belief. It's just like watching any type of fantasies

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<v Speaker 5>of my movie about weird ship happened. That isn't really possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were talking about something outside of.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, that's other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say that particularly. I just say you had

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<v Speaker 3>to suspend This is like a generic version of that

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<v Speaker 3>other movie that we saw.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like substance meets something else or whatever, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because Asian company? Oh I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I really didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I God, damn it.

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to God, I didn't know that. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>Tino was Africans up. Oh no, look you didn't know,

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<v Speaker 3>so that where you didn't I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew that. I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>My God, that would have been I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop laughing, y'all, please listening to this. I promise you.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that team it was Agent. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was an African company for some reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn well that's great.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I was thinking like reverse get out to

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, get on?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, how was that racist?

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<v Speaker 3>All?

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<v Speaker 2>I said on? I didn't have no agent, So y'all, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're starting over. We're starting over, y'all. I said get on.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say get on, come on. That didn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense. That doesn't even make any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all are terrible. Stop by Jesus man. That is not

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<v Speaker 3>what I wanted this to be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, every instance of racism so far my account

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<v Speaker 2>has been completely unintentional. I swear to God on my

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<v Speaker 2>life and my Cat's Life. I did not know that

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<v Speaker 2>Tebu was an Asian compo. I swear on my life,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus, I feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you done? Rod?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry? I think so god feel terrible. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the major film directorial debut from Amy Wang.

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<v Speaker 2>She'd previously done a show called The Birch, but I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't I haven't seen it, so this was her first

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<v Speaker 2>foray into being a movie director. All right, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>jump in this movie. So we meet young Joan Wong,

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<v Speaker 2>her and her family not Wong, is it Wog? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, right, Oh, I didn't even say did I

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<v Speaker 2>my bad? I thought it was barely okay. I do

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<v Speaker 2>agree with this suspending disbelief part, which I was actually

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<v Speaker 2>completely fine with suspending disbelief, but there were certain things

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll get into, where it was like, okay, even

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm suspending disbelief, that doesn't make any sense. I

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<v Speaker 2>but I one hundred percent think that this was a

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<v Speaker 2>a goodwill version of the substance like they they damn

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<v Speaker 2>near followed the substance beat for beat. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>looked at this movie like it was extremely uncreative. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a bummer because I think this story could

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<v Speaker 2>have been cool. But bring up get Out is good.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, it was like get Out mixed with the substance.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the directing was okay, So maybe she'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a better job in the next movie. But she wrote, directed,

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<v Speaker 2>and produced this, and maybe that's the problem. Just like

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<v Speaker 2>we always say, well kritneys again on other people's production,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not J Cole.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's the issue here.

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<v Speaker 2>She she tried to wear too many hats and them

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<v Speaker 2>shits waved her head down and broke her neck.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what it was. It was substance meets Mean Girls.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you ever seen Mean Girls. No,

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<v Speaker 6>but I know what I know the premise. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 6>what that's what I saw. But yeah I wasn't. I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't feel like I was robbed, but I definitely felt

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<v Speaker 6>like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to see this shit in the theater, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So I apologize for making us go.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw it for a screen I scene oh really, yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have been annoyed, feels the screen, and I wasn't. Actually,

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh shit, this is the movie we

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<v Speaker 6>gonna review, so I ain't have to go on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm saying, if we weren't reviewing it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to a screen unseen and it was this.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, yeah, so a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 3>there were shot.

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<v Speaker 6>Like, like I said, I was sitting next to like

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<v Speaker 6>two white chicks.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so happened. It was two white chickens.

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<v Speaker 3>This is fucked up? Why they like this?

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<v Speaker 6>It was murmurs like I was just I was trying

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<v Speaker 6>to hear, hustled to see what they were saying so

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<v Speaker 6>bad because I wanted to know what they were saying

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<v Speaker 6>so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost did. I was talking to another black dude

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<v Speaker 3>that after we.

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<v Speaker 1>Left would have good market research.

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<v Speaker 3>But boy, yeah, yeah, I agree. I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>know to know how white women thought about this. I

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<v Speaker 3>really wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because it's not black people this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't blame must for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all realize y'all pissing everybody, right, It's not just us?

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we meet Joan Wong I think was her last name.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna look it up while we're talking. Her and

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<v Speaker 2>her family moved to the US from China, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>struggling as a child to connect to her white peers,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a youth, she sees a white woman whin

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<v Speaker 2>prom queen and seems to be enamored by that. But

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<v Speaker 2>we fast forward to her as a young adult and

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<v Speaker 2>we see her obsessed with a white woman named Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>Hammond while using this app that makes her.

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<v Speaker 3>Appear as a white woman.

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<v Speaker 2>But what were y'all's initial impressions of her as well

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<v Speaker 2>as her mom and dad spike.

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<v Speaker 3>Initial impressions.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt the mom and dad wanted a better life

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<v Speaker 4>for her, so they of course moved here to America,

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<v Speaker 4>but they were still traditionalists as far as their culture,

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<v Speaker 4>and they didn't want her to lose that, and she

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<v Speaker 4>felt like she had to lose it because of the

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<v Speaker 4>people that she was around in school. I think she

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<v Speaker 4>was using Instagram, but it was a filter on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>You said it was an app. It was Instagram, and

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<v Speaker 4>she was supposed to app. But the filter is what

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<v Speaker 4>made her white.

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<v Speaker 7>Not that just's technic just well, actually, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 7>they would have said about they, Yeah, I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 4>The notes have been played in this the Stinky Lunch,

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<v Speaker 4>like all the stuff like I've seen before, So it

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<v Speaker 4>was playing the typical.

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<v Speaker 2>Notes what about y'all, What did y'all think of Joan

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<v Speaker 2>and her family anything.

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<v Speaker 6>I can just tell that she was she was, she was,

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<v Speaker 6>She's clearly Asian. But but nah, I can tell that

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<v Speaker 6>she was like enamored by like American culture. So that

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<v Speaker 6>and I thought, the uh, the filter thing was interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>So they basically you know, I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people do that, not just you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 6>just these filters, and you know that these filters have

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<v Speaker 6>to come from from somewhere, and not understanding that they

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<v Speaker 6>might be market research happening behind these are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>you're using this and you're using that, So just being

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<v Speaker 6>careful with the stuff that you be using.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes Wait, so there are filters that will make you

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<v Speaker 2>into a white person.

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<v Speaker 4>Enhancements and stuff like that, you'll look different.

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<v Speaker 2>But this literally made her into a white woman. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the whole point, because.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably one out there like that. I wouldn't be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't either. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're selling it off, rip.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess there's well, it was an hour thirty some

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<v Speaker 5>minute maybe movie or whatever, so you're jumping into it

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<v Speaker 5>as like she's just upset with being white. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>there's no real like, what was the trigger. You're constantly

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<v Speaker 5>being like embarrass picked on, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just you're just throwing into her.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's this girl, she's obsessed with being white, even doing

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<v Speaker 5>the filter, so you know, and we just have to

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<v Speaker 5>go with that and run with that for the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she grew into it though, Oh it's obsessed.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when she originally got that, she was cool

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<v Speaker 4>with who she was, but it's just being around all

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<v Speaker 4>those white people, and she felt like she had to

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<v Speaker 4>be white to be accepted.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what I got from.

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<v Speaker 2>I get your point. There wasn't a lot of backstory

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<v Speaker 2>for her. But I think them dropping in the part

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<v Speaker 2>where she was really young and she had her food

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<v Speaker 2>and all the white girls got up and left, I

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<v Speaker 2>think they thought that would be enough. Yeah, they thought

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<v Speaker 2>that we would just fell in fill in the blanks.

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree, we didn't have enough to make me

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<v Speaker 2>understand why she was so beyond abnormally obsessed with first

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<v Speaker 2>of all being a prom queen and second of all

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<v Speaker 2>being a white woman. It was just it didn't hit

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't hit at all for me.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that stuff is pushed in our society, in society,

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<v Speaker 6>especially American society, even with the Barbie dolls and things

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<v Speaker 6>like that straight hair, it's even pushed to our our

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<v Speaker 6>girls and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I got all that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is for someone to go through this

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<v Speaker 2>type of transformation in this film, you gotta give me

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more than I was upset about Barbie

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<v Speaker 2>dolls or I want to be prom queen like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just there wasn't enough meat on this for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know what, I can take me out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the picture. I didn't even need it though, because

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<v Speaker 3>you're black.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's let's draw a regular ass, boring, unseasoned white

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<v Speaker 2>person into this film who doesn't even have any awareness

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<v Speaker 2>of anything. There's no backstory for this one. There's to

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<v Speaker 2>to to to get to the point where I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to change my race. There's not enough here for me

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<v Speaker 2>to understand.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't need it because I because I live here

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<v Speaker 6>and I see advertisement and I see what's every day

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<v Speaker 6>like what is the mass?

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<v Speaker 5>But you live here, we grow up in it. In

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<v Speaker 5>our community. It's constantly bombarded. We haven't really witness or

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<v Speaker 5>seen it from their perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need to, like just think if I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>So much like, I could just take our experience is

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<v Speaker 5>just layered on top of that and I'll be cool

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<v Speaker 5>with it.

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<v Speaker 6>So so what I'm saying is that, like you said,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm from here, I'm I'm a Black American, right, They're

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<v Speaker 6>coming from another country. She's a little girl growing up

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<v Speaker 6>in a certain neighborhood watching television. That's all she sees

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<v Speaker 6>and all she experiences. She's not around other ages. She's

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<v Speaker 6>not they're not in an Asian community.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't seem like, No, that's that's not we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. It didn't seem like because they're still the

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<v Speaker 2>parents are still very deeply entrenched in their own cult culture.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes in the house, yes, but I don't see it

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<v Speaker 6>on the outside. I didn't see I thought it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was more her idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm greeing with Rodden since I thought her idea of

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<v Speaker 4>beauty beauty right white a white woman, she never seen like.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we don't have that issue as belliding being

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<v Speaker 4>Black America. We know the beautiful black people, so we

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<v Speaker 4>have that ideology in our head to be like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I can be beautiful and still be black. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>she felt like in order to be beautiful, she had

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<v Speaker 4>to be white.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what the movie says to us. Okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like again, I need to.

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<v Speaker 2>See a little bit more of this and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to the transformation, because that was some bullshit to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But also with the company itself, it doesn't make sense

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<v Speaker 2>because the material for the company was like, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>checking out here. If this is supposed to be about beauty,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not checking out. So I had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of issues with the baseline material for this film. Now

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<v Speaker 2>for us to assume she's never seen an attractive Asian woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all gonna have to tell us that because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just I'm not. I don't feel like I should have

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<v Speaker 2>to put this much assumption into a movie that's about

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<v Speaker 2>a culture completely different than mine.

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<v Speaker 5>And I agree with that, like historically based on what

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<v Speaker 5>I read and all the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know it, I know it exists.

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<v Speaker 5>I know they've been experienced sort of racism and prejudice

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<v Speaker 5>as well. But show us and give us just a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more about the nuances, right, you know that

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<v Speaker 5>we don't know, like anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't need that because they talked about it towards

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<v Speaker 6>the end, which I bring remember, try to remember to

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<v Speaker 6>bring that up.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know what part you're talking about. She changed

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<v Speaker 2>her whole race. I feel her entire Like when we

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<v Speaker 2>watched The Substance, they made it very painfully clear why

0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Demi Moore's character was doing what she's doing. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>this movie was missing. It wasn't even just age. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the fact that the dude didn't think she was

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<v Speaker 2>marketable anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, this movie, didn't you look an I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>it's not because she still looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>For her age. It's almost like they wanted to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on her being prom queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why, yes, they made her obsessed with being

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<v Speaker 2>a prom queen. And in order for her to be

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<v Speaker 2>a prom queen, she has to be a white woman.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, wait, so.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe, yeah, huh, I agree on the motive the queen, well,

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<v Speaker 6>that's that's I was more so talking.

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<v Speaker 1>To the background.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't need all the extra background as far to

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<v Speaker 6>what she wanted to change, but the prong queen just

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Motive.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's sounds like you agree with us, but

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<v Speaker 2>you are saying you don't because you agree on the motive.

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<v Speaker 2>The motive to change her race being prom queen doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really make any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I needed more motive than just being prong queen. But

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<v Speaker 3>I all, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't need the extra background and the nuance of

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<v Speaker 6>saying why she would want to be prom queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, that's not no.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just move on, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need the extra But I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I'm enough motive, but I don't need no

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<v Speaker 3>more motive. I'm with y'all on the prom queen shit

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<v Speaker 3>that that ship was weak to me. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>The prom queen motive was weak to me.

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<v Speaker 6>But I also still don't need the back, the extra

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<v Speaker 6>background on how we got there. That like the nuance

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<v Speaker 6>and the story there, I don't need that extra stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>I can I can feel in that. I can feel

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<v Speaker 6>in that part. It still doesn't mean I like the motives,

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<v Speaker 6>but I can feel.

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<v Speaker 3>In the other part. Maybe maybe maybe that's not Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it makes sense to somebody out there, I'm sure it does. Like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it does, even if it's a few people.

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<v Speaker 1>Just gotta reach one minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So after concocting a plan to run for prom queen

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<v Speaker 2>with her friend I think it's pronounced Brenda. What did

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<v Speaker 2>y'all take from the scene in the car with her

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<v Speaker 2>mom where she's playing the Asian music and she keeps

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<v Speaker 2>turning it down?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you laughing? We're gonna start with you, spikes

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<v Speaker 3>that you laughing about? You? Oh the radio?

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<v Speaker 2>She said that, don't nobody touched an Asian woman's radio?

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<v Speaker 1>Did she say that?

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<v Speaker 3>I missed that point?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought about you cutting it down, But it was

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<v Speaker 4>like at that point in time where it was really

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<v Speaker 4>starting to show how irritated she was with her culture,

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<v Speaker 4>with how she'd been raised, and it just she she

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to disconnect herself totally from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Does y'all anything different from that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They so they go to pick up her dad from

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<v Speaker 2>the house that he's cleaning.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think about what happens there? Ken with

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<v Speaker 3>with the white lady?

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<v Speaker 5>This was very like, it felt very over the top

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<v Speaker 5>for me, really, yeah, because it's just like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>make him uh, a person that's gonna like her. The

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<v Speaker 5>way the white person was acting, I got, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>heard him being like a cleaning person, not knowing English.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like we're just gonna make it. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>very obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>That he's he's being you know, discriminated upun or looked

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<v Speaker 5>down upon and stuff like that. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I felt maybe I wanted something a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, okay, did you need something smarter?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I absolutely think that they probably act like

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<v Speaker 6>that and think they're doing such a oh weird adopting

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<v Speaker 6>black children, And like I thought there.

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<v Speaker 5>Was her whole setup was weird, like she had all

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<v Speaker 5>the ship and something like that. Yeah, yeah, I get that,

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<v Speaker 5>but it just felt like we just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>I like that set up because as soon as he

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<v Speaker 6>did something that she didn't approve of, it's like all

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.719
<v Speaker 6>that ship and you had to refrain from being racist.

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.160
<v Speaker 6>At that point, you wanted to be racist so bad,

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<v Speaker 6>but you got all this ship in your home, like

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<v Speaker 6>like you're just down for the call, and then soon

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<v Speaker 6>as something happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, you ready to fucking fire them and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just tear him a new one. Yep, you're a gread

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<v Speaker 3>that spike. You don't care. No, I agree with the Asians.

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<v Speaker 3>I just never see as cleaning man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what That's what you said.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like weird, like we're just gonna give him

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<v Speaker 5>like the bottom of the sort of pole, like this

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<v Speaker 5>the only job he can fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and what year was it that was? So that

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know, its just modern. It was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was We're in a modern world with something that

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<v Speaker 5>seemed like it would have been something in the forties,

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<v Speaker 5>fifties whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>What wait, what would be from the fortes an Asian

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning person?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah or whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I disagree with I think it makes sense, especially

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<v Speaker 2>given what Joan says to him later, him not being

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<v Speaker 2>able to He does speak some English, he understands some English.

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:46.879
<v Speaker 3>But he's an idealist.

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 2>He's just I mean, especially when we get to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the very end with his monologue. But I think

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 2>him coming to the United States and becoming a cleaning person,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't have any problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And as far as I've never seen an Asian cleaning person,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think I haven't seen many cleaning people period.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my family's as bougie as you, Spike, so

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>you never had clean the cleaning people in my house

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<v Speaker 2>with me, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I do got I guess again we're with.

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<v Speaker 5>Some with Spike, not that they don't exist, it's that,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I've just always known them to be black people, or.

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 1>The Mexican people or that too.

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<v Speaker 5>So if this is a thing, then getting insight into

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<v Speaker 5>that being the thing, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's wrong with Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I needed insight into our Asian cleaning

0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 2>people a thing. I assume any migrant class would be.

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 3>That's the type of jobs that they could probably.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a usually, But I think i'm speaking to well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking in stereotypes. Usually Asians are more affluent, even

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 4>if they smart, would be the word that I'm smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because he's a cliper, he's not smart.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure he does, but I don't want to step

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<v Speaker 4>on the point that you're gonna make later. But he'd

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<v Speaker 4>been here ten years and didn't bother to learn the

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<v Speaker 4>language to do anything like you usually.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, I'm only saying that because Asians take that stuff seriously?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean agents usually take they have, like you.

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<v Speaker 4>Tech jobs and engineering jobs and things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 4>that that stereotype.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Spike, are you what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing? I was just saying black people

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<v Speaker 3>can play basketball? How Mike, they can't play? To me,

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<v Speaker 3>why you can't play basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you so slow? How come you can't run fast? Mind?

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<v Speaker 1>But you should have been able to play basketball though.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no reason you shouldn't be a play right you're

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<v Speaker 3>black as Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not saying it's just they aim higher than that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll say, you can't. I can't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're being so racist right now, even know you are

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<v Speaker 3>being raed.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know what you say.

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<v Speaker 3>You like, I'm not in this by myself. I'm taking

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<v Speaker 3>you with me right here.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just like I knew what you meant when you

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<v Speaker 3>were saying what you say. I just I just on

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<v Speaker 3>what you just said.

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<v Speaker 2>My team comment and ship compared to what just went out.

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<v Speaker 2>You might say, Look, they're smart. They're all smart, every

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<v Speaker 2>single one. They all got tech jobs, every single one

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<v Speaker 2>of the end. They are higher than cleaning people. I mean, King,

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<v Speaker 2>King who I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Not trying to get people on the You're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get people on the t that's my thought.

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<v Speaker 1>He was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, come on, I was not. I oh,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, I'm not. I don't think we should

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<v Speaker 3>review this movie that I'm thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't said anything that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was fine Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now. I just thought it was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought it was weird because I understand why

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<v Speaker 2>a person moving to this country, especially when I have

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<v Speaker 2>the understanding that this whole facade of opportunity and it's

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<v Speaker 2>all bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not this wealth of opportunity in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>So someone moving here, especially if you don't oh right,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if someone doesn't know the language that well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably a fairly easy job for them to get because

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people will assume that they're not very smart,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not you know, and they'll think they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>steal you know. It's just yeah, I think there's a

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>wealth of understanding of why a migrant would become a

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning person. I thought this scene was cool because, like

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>the woman came off as a very typical standard liberal

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<v Speaker 2>performative liberal the whole like I made you some tea,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, almost like you people like tea, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when she says that shit about oh my god,

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>you're so beautiful, do you know that? It just comes

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<v Speaker 2>off as so condescending and it's triggering because again, this

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.159
<v Speaker 2>is an Asian story, so I don't want to, you know,

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>step on the Asian part of this story. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>as a black person, I've seen that same ship from

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 2>white folks, especially to little black girls.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what was saying earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>He said that black women know, they know they've seen

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<v Speaker 5>beautiful black women.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. I guess he was trying to say he

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>What she did.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on, I've seen white women look at young black

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<v Speaker 2>girls and be like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're pretty, You're just so yeah, your hair

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<v Speaker 3>is so Yeah. That part was very very relatable.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she say something to her hair too?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>That.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that part, did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that before.

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<v Speaker 8>y'all take anything from the dreams you had about winning prom?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna be allies when the shit over?

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>We should be allies now, Well, we're not gonna be

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 2>to meet Spike, that's for sure.

0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 3>Like, why are you working? Why don't you have a

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 3>tech job? Are you one of the are you one

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 3>of the few dumb ones at least at least?

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<v Speaker 1>No wonder over here? You got?

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all? Come on, yeah, y'all going too far now?

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I apologize for these two guys.

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<v Speaker 3>The dream, the dream? Yeah, yeah, what happened?

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>She they she wins prom and she gets up to

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the stage and when she looks at herself in the mirror,

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>she has and she's holding cleaning supplies. Mm hmm, okay,

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>well I thought that seems cool. Guess not all right,

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>So still obsessed with becoming prom queen, she walks down

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the hall showing all the previous prom queens, who were

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 2>all white and blonde. She then decides to dye her

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>hair blonde, and she also blows off plants with her

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>mom to go to the nail salon with Olivia and

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>her friends. I'm afraid to ask Spike anything some starting

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 2>on this side of the room, Rod, what did you

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<v Speaker 2>think about what goes down at the nail salon?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was so fucked up. They were trying to

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 6>get a discount. But I like that the owner stood

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 6>on business though until she didn't.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, we don't know because she said.

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 3>That's true, that's true.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 6>But but now, yeah, that that was a crazy scene

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 6>to watch and just kind of seeing the owner's face

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 6>like I know what you're doing, Like you know, I

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 6>ain't going for it. But yeah, it was kind of

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 6>funked up that they were just using her to to

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.719
<v Speaker 6>try to get a discount on on their nails and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>So no, that was that scene.

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<v Speaker 5>And to assimilate, to fit in, to be part of

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 5>the so called majority, she was willing to be used,

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 5>which is a normal thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, willing to

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 5>circumvent her culture, which I like that. Like, you know,

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 5>the person that owned the place was like, this is

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 5>my this is my shop. This is what we do.

0:29:54.520 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 5>These we reward ourselves, you know, and not others. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is how, you know, we can keep our sense

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.840
<v Speaker 5>of community, our sense of culture, et cetera, et cetera.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 5>And she was really trying to get her to kind

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 5>of stay embedded in that, and you know, to no

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 5>of l you know, I'm assuming that she gave her

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 5>the discount to maybe try to help her out, unless

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 5>she put the foot of the bill, for which I

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 5>doubt she doubted paying, you know, that extra twenty percent. Yeah,

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 5>so I doubt that that would happen because it didn't

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 5>seem like they had a lot of money anyway. So

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.959
<v Speaker 5>but nah, this this was a dope scene seeing her

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:36.959
<v Speaker 5>push for that and just kind of sad seeing them

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 5>kind of use her in that way, and you know, and.

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Didn't really even really care about her at all. It

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>was fucked up.

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought the same thing.

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really get the kind of slight that Olivia

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>said to Joan at the end of the conversation. She

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can see your roots, but the friend

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>next to her had black roots, So like, whoa, what

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>are we talking about?

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I think, oh, yeah, I don't either, because she wasn't

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>white man never.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Mind, Yeah, she wasn't white yet she had just dyed

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>her hair anyway, that was weird.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 6>That was kind of weird because even when she did

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 6>dye her hair, it still had black like streaks in it,

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 6>so it never was just like purely blond.

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that was a little odd.

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 5>Or maybe it was like, no matter what you do,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 5>you won't be one of us, because I could still

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 5>see the roots.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, So yeah, maybe that was it.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, maybe it was like, I don't know, layer,

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 5>like I could still see your roots, and maybe a

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 5>double meeting.

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Maybe the messaging part the message part.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Sure, i'll buy, But in relation to the movie, it

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't really make a lot of sense because it was

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>just like, the girl literally standing right next to you

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 2>has dark roots. So if you're just saying I can

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 2>see it looked like that's.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying. Yeah, it wasn't like blond.

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah she had, yeah her hair, she had layers,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 3>but it doesn't matter.

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she's she being Jon has been getting these

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>messages from the company that does the white face filter.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>They're called Ethnos.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Spike, I'll just throw this to you and hope you

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>don't say anything crazy. What did you think about her

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>visit to the facility.

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<v Speaker 4>The first time she went to go check it out? Yeah, yeah,

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 4>I knew she was going. Like I said, this movie

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 4>was a lot of predict predictable, so I knew she

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 4>was gonna do it, even though she didn't do at

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 4>that time.

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, did.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Y'all think of anything interesting about her first visit to

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 2>the facility?

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was, Yeah, it was.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 6>It was interesting that you have to go through this.

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 6>I guess like looked like it was a closed down shop.

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 6>So it's almost like a speakeasy type of place where

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 6>just very exclusive, if you know, you know, type of thing.

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 6>So it just looked sketchy. Definitely looked sketchy. I did

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 6>not know that they the people that were working there

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 6>were probably of other ethnicities or whatever, so I didn't

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 6>know that until until they said it.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys mentioned the substance.

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.719
<v Speaker 5>The substance kind of did a very similar sort of

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 5>set up when it comes to the facility.

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>This is where it starts to.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 5>Get a little weird for for me, because and correct

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 5>me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to remember, but it

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 5>seemed like it shifted to just the black people getting

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 5>this procedure more than others. Like the guy the doctor

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 5>was black, wasn't either, the secretary was black.

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 3>The secretary was black, the doctor was he was a

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 3>white dude, South Asian.

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I don't think there were actually a lot

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>of examples.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Balance.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it was balanced, all right, Yeah, okay,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 5>maybe maybe my own boys looking at it like, well,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 5>I gotta be now shifting like you're trying to use

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 5>us to tell this story.

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>But okay, cool suit correction.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, nobody called this out.

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>My one of my issues was in this scene, especially

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 2>when I think back on it. Uh, I don't think

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 2>they did a great job of really conveying what you

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>get by becoming white. Uh, because the white specimens in

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>this room they were not top specimens.

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, it was more so about privilege.

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 2>See was that it for Joan? No, for Joan, they

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>were trying to make it seem like it was about beauty, not.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 3>Privilege, See, I thought, and privilege.

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>See, they did not do a good job to me

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>with conveying the message of what white privilege even is

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 2>or what you benefit from getting you know, this procedure,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.360
<v Speaker 2>because they're they're showing the woman in the video and

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>she's just like, you know, you have no idea, you

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>know that should I get away with by being a

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>white woman.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was good.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Then they showed the video and this might be where

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking of the black people. They show the video

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of the doctor and he's changing a black man into

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a white man. The black man seemed to be an average,

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>decent looking black man and they changed him to this busted.

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Ass old white dude.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 2>So if the point they're making is even if you

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>are an attractive person of color, you're still better off

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>white no matter what you look like. If that's the

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>point they're trying to make, I'm cool with it. I

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>just feel like they needed to push it a bit

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>more because it wasn't clear.

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 5>No, it wasn't this, Yes, I think that was it.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 5>I think it was the acceptance. It's like you walk

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 5>through and you see just the wall of whites, you

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 5>know that are prom queens, and.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 3>But they're all pretty whites.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But also in there they were also trying to

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 5>convey like the other messaging about just privilege and assets

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 5>and acceptability. Know, this super good looking or whatever he

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 5>is black guy becomes this average looking white man and

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 5>that's susceptible and you will get all these sort of

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 5>privileges as as the other girl said, So I think

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 5>maybe in this part of the movie they were using

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 5>this to kind of convey that part of it in

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 5>addition to her trying to be prom queen and maybe

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 5>her going to the salon of being acceptive. Well, no,

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 5>because she wanted their endorsement for prom Queen, which is

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 5>why she wanted to get in with them.

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, yes, here's why that does not work. Joan

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>was not going there to become white to just be accepted.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>She was going there because she wanted to become prom queen.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 2>To be prom queen, she saw it as you need

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>to be like a top looking white So they weren't.

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 2>They never even gave her the indication that like, yeah,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 2>you'll be a really attractive white woman. You're just gonna

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 2>be You're just gonna be a white person. So I

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>feel like this movie could have worked if you remove

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the whole prom queen shit and just make it that

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Joan is not feeling accepted. So even if I become

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 2>a less attractive white woman, my life is still gonna

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 2>be better off.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 3>But it doesn't.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Vibe with the whole prom queen thing.

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>To me.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 2>It was just like the messaging is all over the

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>place with this movie. It's like they could not figure

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>out what angle we wanted to go with with get Out.

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 3>The angle was so clear with these white people.

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 2>They were like, look, it doesn't matter what you look like,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I just want to be in this body.

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 5>They took a very elementary approach to it, yes, using

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 5>the prom queen as the motive.

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>And then they abandoned the motive when they get to

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>this facility. It's like, wait a minute, and she's only

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 2>going there because she doesn't feel accepted. Fine, but she

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 2>wants to be a beautiful white woman. Just being a

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>basic ass white woman's not gonna get you, prom queen.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 5>And or maybe they were trying to use that to

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 5>also illustrate or sell other reasons why or reasons why

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 5>other people have adopted that surgery so or whatever the

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 5>process is in addition to her having a very simple

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 5>reason for it, you know, so, and that's why they're successful.

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 5>So you just want to be prom queen and beautiful, right,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 5>these other people wanted these other things that would allow

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 5>them to be accepted in society.

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>That's outside of that.

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:33.720
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the doctor never had a conversation with her,

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.280
<v Speaker 2>being like, look, you're going to be a beautiful white woman.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 3>Which again we will get to that part.

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 2>So she has to take over the cleaning job for

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 2>her dad since he's hurt his hand. He cut his hand,

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 2>he broke a vase or something.

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>She finds out the owner of the house is going

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 3>out of town.

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Then, after getting embarrassed by some students, they drew dicks

0:38:56.320 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 2>on her little prom queen flyers tricks her mom and

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the signing the permission slip to get the full race swap.

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 3>What did y'all think of that part?

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>The procedure part, including that good to be Good to

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>be White song?

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>That was that a bop spike good to be White song?

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You remember?

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that ship was so sound like.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>The police are our friends. Man, that was a source

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>of safety. That was funny to me.

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she got designed that the permission sip signed by

0:39:28.600 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 4>her mom because her mom really didn't.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Know what was going on.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 3>She told her it was a field trip. Yeah, they

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 3>was going to a long permissionship.

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I ain't take anything from it in the procedure to

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 4>switch over anything like that.

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:44.479
<v Speaker 5>So so this was the girls drove by and saw

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 5>her with the cleaning stuff, right, yeah, and then she

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.920
<v Speaker 5>went to the school in there with the picture of

0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 5>the Dix and stuff. I thought they were gonna kind

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 5>of make of seeing her with the cleaning supply. So

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 5>that kind of threw me off that it was just

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 5>they were just making doing that yeah sort of thing.

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.439
<v Speaker 5>So I was like, Okay, that's not where it didn't

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 5>go where I thought it was gonna go.

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.719
<v Speaker 1>And that was enough to make you wanna.

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:13.919
<v Speaker 5>Okay again, I think the good to be white, we're

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 5>just like you're selling it. That is a thing that's said.

0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 5>It is a phrase that's said, So we're just gonna

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 5>kind of take that and add it into this sort

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 5>of thing, and maybe you're letting white people know that

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 5>that's the thing.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I wish you would have talked to them,

0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 5>But but they're really hammering down and about this whole

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 5>idea of whiteness and acceptability and the privileges and everything

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 5>that comes with white, white, white white, white, white is

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 5>great to be white, to the point where we got

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 5>a song about it. Now, if that ship turns turns

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 5>into a fucking damn nag of theme song, bro TikTok

0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god.

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 1>That s would be fucking nuts. That's what they're gonna

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>take that ship roight. No.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is the first time I had to suspend

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 6>leaf with the parent signature things.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm like, that's not you.

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Know what I thought that. I thought she probably just

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>couldn't read English.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I took it. She couldn't.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 2>She could, they could both speak basic English, but one

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 2>they had no reason to trust their daughter, and two

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that might have been a lot of English for her

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 2>to read. So she's probably just like and they're watching

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 2>a movie or doing something.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I know how they tried to set it up

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 6>as that she just wasn't like paying attention. But I

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 6>just it just like as a parent that signs permission slips,

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying.

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 5>But but no, no, But so I do understand because

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 5>my wife reads everything. However, we're probably different, you know,

0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 5>because there have been times I could, hey, Mom, I

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 5>need this signa she probably my mom wouldn't read it.

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and my mom.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Was a teacher, so she knew I wasn't gonna lie

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 3>to her.

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Though, right, so I could get why she would just

0:41:58.719 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and just sign it.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>And her daughter had never been in I get what

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you're saying, though, but her daughter had never been in trouble.

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>They had no reason not to believe her. And she says, hey,

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I want to go on a field trip where you

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:09.879
<v Speaker 2>sign this permission slip, and that was.

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Really the starting end of it.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really I get why you'd have a problem

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>with that because of the father you are. But me,

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I was just saying, all right, I had more of

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 2>an issue And this is nothing against McKenna Grace. I

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 2>have more of an issue with that's what they gave you.

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Like if I'm going to a facility and I want

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 2>to be prom queen, I want to be this beautiful

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 2>prom queen. And I'm not trying to be mean. I

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 2>think McKenna Grace is a is a pretty little white girl.

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 2>But it was like, that's it.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.240
<v Speaker 5>I think that works, So I think that I think

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 5>that is enough. I don't think she had to be

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 5>beauty queen or Amazona or whatever. You want to where

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 5>you want to say. I think I think it was

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.959
<v Speaker 5>just enough. You're damn now, you got me saying about

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 5>to say something sounds fucked up.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:07.439
<v Speaker 2>You've been saying that sounds fucked up this whole I'm

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna get you to say something that sounds average average.

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't I don't think. I don't think it

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>needs to be over like.

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it got to be overly. But she, to me,

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 3>she's just like a basic ass white jack. But I

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:22.959
<v Speaker 3>think that was the point.

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that.

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.279
<v Speaker 6>Might have been the point. But because she still needed

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 6>her endorsement.

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Sure.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 6>The other suspended belief was like being able to do

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 6>that procedure without a parent present.

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, yeah, that not yeah, because you're being a

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 2>little picky.

0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 2>You can't even get tattoos without There's no procedure in

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>the world that can turn you into a white person.

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 3>So I know, I mean that that was the obvious.

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 6>I mean, why isn't there a parent in the room?

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's the obvious one. I'm just saying the

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 6>other stuff that I was listening.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>That is a good point, right, But that is also

0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a good point.

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, so, now if you want to

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>really get into suspending this belief, which I this is

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:04.439
<v Speaker 2>where I thought you were going.

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Where did she get the money for this? Oh?

0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>He said, he.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.479
<v Speaker 3>Said she got a discount or something. Na, the hair

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>was free. That's it.

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 4>I thought in the in the DMS, you should one

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 4>time offer whatever it may be, take advantage of this.

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, maybe she did get a discount, but still it didn't.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 2>The movie never came off like she was loaded. Because

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 2>her parents were extremely working class, this procedure had to

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>be a grip. So I was just like, all right,

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 2>what's happening here? Is this a dream sequence? Because how

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 2>was she even getting this procedure done?

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, the procedure time because again with the substance, we

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>had fucking Margaret quality crawling out.

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Of Demi Moore's back.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, you know, but this ship,

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>it was just like y'all didn't think a lot of

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 2>this movie through. It seemed like y'all just threw some

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 2>shit together.

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>It seems like it really on a budget.

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and they wasted most of the budget on

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the actor.

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, So after she shows up at.

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Home as a white woman, her parents stormed down the

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Ethnes to get a reversal, but the doctor says it's permanent,

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and outside, Mom, Dad and Joan have a very hard discussion.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Did y'all take anything interesting from that discussion? Y'all remember it?

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 5>It was just when he told her about you know,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 5>your grandmother and I can see your grandmother and your

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 5>eyes and stuff like that.

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was killed that ship.

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think all of this was good.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 6>I think all of this was a good one because

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 6>I was like, how the fuck they're gonna do this?

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 6>Like she's about to come home as a whole, white,

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 6>different person, and I'm like, how are they going to

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 6>execute this? And I feel like they did this well

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.919
<v Speaker 6>because they did not believe, like, you're not my fucking daughter.

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 6>It took them, It took her everything to try to

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 6>convince them, Like she had to single songs.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 3>He still was like, He's like.

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 5>Nah, I don't know what Like if my kid, you

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 5>take your ass right back out of here, that's gonna happen.

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hell you can.

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 5>I could see the hurt and feel the hurt that

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 5>they had that she just it was legally erased everything

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 5>that they were.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to talk to her no more.

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>No, and basically went on about their lives too.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I like the scene a lot. But the mom says,

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:37.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, being Chinese is what made and she says, no,

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>being Chinese is what made me weak. It's like, god, damn,

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 2>this is a lot butter Again, I didn't really get

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:48.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.439
<v Speaker 6>I think the actor did well to the white girl

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 6>because he made it seem like what's her name, but grace.

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I think she killed scream.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:57.799
<v Speaker 6>I think I think I think credit needs to go

0:46:57.840 --> 0:46:59.919
<v Speaker 6>to her as well, because I mean, I really felt

0:46:59.920 --> 0:47:01.360
<v Speaker 6>like she was the other girl.

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:01.720
<v Speaker 3>In this moment.

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.879
<v Speaker 6>She's right, oh noelt I felt she did a really

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 6>good job here.

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I like when the dad says, I used

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:09.879
<v Speaker 2>to look in your face and see your grandma's eyes,

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.520
<v Speaker 2>and now I don't recognize my daughter anymore.

0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>This, this, this whole scene right here was fucking class.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Is this When she snapped on him?

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 2>When who snapped on whom? And she told him no, no, no,

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that that happens. Oh my god, my mom, Hey, can

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I eat a sweet potatoes?

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Crazy? Anyway? No, that's later.

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 2>So to further fit in, she decides to throw a

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>party at the house that her father cleans at unless

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>she took something interesting from that conversation between her and

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Olivia in that room, which I didn't know. We can

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about the big scene here because Brenda shows up

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>and confirms that White Joe is actually Joan after the

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>race swap, and they share a touching moment where we

0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 2>think that they're gonna reconcile and they're gonna stay best friends.

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 2>But then a turn happens when Olivia is telling Brenda

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and her friends made up of other POC, she tells

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 2>them that.

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 3>They have to leave go. What did you think of that?

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Seeing Spike that was dirty? I didn't think that.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 4>What I know the girl other girl said she had

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.919
<v Speaker 4>to show commitment or show that she was loyal to her,

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:19.120
<v Speaker 4>But I ain't think I thought she was gonna chicken

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:21.400
<v Speaker 4>out and not make her friend leave. I thought that

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 4>she had built a deeper barn with her somebody. They

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:25.840
<v Speaker 4>had been friends for a while, not just high school,

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 4>but like throughout school. So I thought that she had

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 4>a deeper barn with her. So I was surprised. In

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 4>a predictable movie, that was a surprising point right there.

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 5>I think it was cool showing other races, showing them

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 5>all grouped together like ver excluded from like white people.

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 5>You know, again, very messaging in your face, you know,

0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 5>showing that you know, once you was, once you assimilate

0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 5>and adopt, you have to turn your back on your

0:48:55.480 --> 0:49:00.800
<v Speaker 5>own community and you leave them behind, including friendships as well.

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I thought that was was it was good, but I

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 5>knew she was going to say no because she hadn't

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 5>accomplished a mission, and her mission was to become prom

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 5>queen and that came at the expense of friendships and

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 5>and bonds and loyalty that she has she has built

0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 5>over the years in pursuit of whiteness and uh, and

0:49:22.800 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 5>she was willing to sacrifice whatever at the altered to

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 5>accomplish that.

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's just were they the only Asian people in

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that community? Were people there?

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:38.359
<v Speaker 2>There were some black people there, there were there were

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:41.320
<v Speaker 2>it was a nice mix, but it was mostly people

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:41.760
<v Speaker 2>of color.

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, showing certain that's certain allyship. Yeah.

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 2>So I did find that to be kind of interesting.

0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you, Spike, I was like, is she gonna do it?

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Is she going to do it?

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 2>And when she was like, y'all gotta leave, I was.

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Like, Wow, Now I'm surprised. Old girls didn't write her

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:00.799
<v Speaker 1>out because.

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 6>I would have told that she switched by Yeah, mm hmm.

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 3>They thought she was just a new girl.

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.959
<v Speaker 3>Remember they when she came to school, they introduced her.

0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 5>As Joe, and the guy immediately started talking to her.

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, so they already show that there's privileges associated

0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 5>with it.

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought that back up. So that was

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 2>again they were making it seem like because this was

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>like the really good looking guy at the school, and

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 2>basic Joe walks up and he's like, oh cool, Yeah,

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 2>let's date. It's like, wait, what y'all not y'all not dah. Anyway,

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 2>after it's announced that she's up for prom queen, she

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>has an awkward conversation with Brenda. Do you remember this conversation?

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>This is by the lockos. What do you think anything

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 2>of this?

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 4>Not any more than her kicking out of the party,

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 4>just like she was on the same thing, right, Damn?

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Did y'all take anything from this? I don't remember your

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 3>first moment?

0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Shit.

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was an incredible scene. This is where

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Brenda tells her like, look, you changed the entire way

0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:12.600
<v Speaker 2>you looked.

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Because you thought you were ugly.

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>What does that how do you think that makes me Feelah?

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought she killed. This scene was before this party.

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 2>No, it was after the party, because that's why she's

0:51:24.239 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 2>chowing up to her, being like can we talk?

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Can we talk? Can we talk?

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:27.919
<v Speaker 1>That's right? Yeah?

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought this scene was really good.

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>Damn it is. Yeah, it is an ele thing to say.

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.760
<v Speaker 2>And I watched an interview with the actress that plays

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Brenda and she said that was She brought that to

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the director that was not originally in the script. She

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, look, if she's changing herself to be

0:51:44.520 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 2>white me as another person of color, that's obviously going

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 2>to affect me.

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 3>So what if I said this?

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 2>And the director was like, yes, that's awesome. So yeah,

0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I thought that scene was really good. So you about

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to say something? Oh, Joanne's face starts drooping and they

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 2>give her some tape and some cream, which.

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, this part was fine.

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 2>But that night, her mom and dad tell her that

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 2>her dad's been fired due to the party.

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:12.760
<v Speaker 3>But while they're.

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Interrogating her about if she had the party, Joanne or Joan,

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:21.240
<v Speaker 2>blurts out something extremely rude and hurtful to her father.

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.520
<v Speaker 2>She says, take this as a blessing. Maybe now you

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 2>can learn English and get.

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 3>A real job. I said, damn out loud with me too,

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:33.720
<v Speaker 3>me too. I was like, god, damn, oh, oh my god.

0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what did y'all think of this scene?

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 5>She been holding that one in for a minute, you know,

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 5>and and she's blaming to a certain degree of parents,

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, to a certain degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, you have to work at this place. You

0:52:56.080 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 5>never learned English, but also you never fit in, you know,

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 5>with how things are in America. And that hurt his soul,

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:08.720
<v Speaker 5>it did.

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 3>That actor killed it.

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:11.200
<v Speaker 1>He was crushed.

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this could have taught him what English.

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 3>See, that's the thing that's.

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 2>When we when we were going to Spike was like, hell,

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 2>he didn't even bother to learn English.

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't have to.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.439
<v Speaker 2>And he makes that very clear, which in another scene

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.280
<v Speaker 2>that we'll get to in a bit in a few minutes.

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>But I think that it was good that they did

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.399
<v Speaker 2>not have him be, you know, fluent in English. He

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>was happy with the life that he had. He worked

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:44.080
<v Speaker 2>as a janitor and he also cleaned houses. He had

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:48.719
<v Speaker 2>a loving family. He didn't need anything else. He just

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be in America. But again, I can't get

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 2>into that before without giving away a couple other things.

0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Only a few more scenes to this anyway. But while

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 3>that prom which are you talking about this?

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, her face starts drooping again, Olivia comes in the bathroom.

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 2>While helping her, she reveals that she also went through

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the program. I'm not gonna front. This got me.

0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, ship, I said, you knew it.

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I said she wanted them, she gotta be I said

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 3>she gotta be one. I didn't call it.

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 3>She played the white girl so too. Yeah, it was

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 3>like I didn't.

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm with Mike.

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I still didn't.

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 3>That was a shackra for me when I.

0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Didn't think she was all the way white anyway. I

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:36.800
<v Speaker 2>thought she was like Spanish or some ship. It was

0:54:36.840 --> 0:54:37.600
<v Speaker 2>a good twist though.

0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 1>It did good.

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.160
<v Speaker 3>It did well for the movie. It made it a

0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 3>little bit more interesting. I do it.

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 5>It made sense when you start to play back some

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 5>of the things she said, especially when she was.

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 3>At the party, in the party in the rooms, like

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I know your secret.

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. I was like, oh damn, that's what that meant. Yeah,

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. It was good though. That was that was

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:06.520
<v Speaker 1>a good reveal. Unfortunately it didn't work out in the

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 1>way that she said it would.

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:12.760
<v Speaker 5>Uh there was, but yeah it all the body rejects

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 5>it in the first.

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your face fights. No, that was good. They got

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>me too.

0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 6>That what's fucked up about that is that at the party,

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 6>like you knew her secret, that you still had her

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:29.800
<v Speaker 6>do that ship with her kicking out her friends.

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 5>Are you one of us now still one of them?

0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 5>Are you holding on to you know, to your past?

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>So Jonahs elected prom queen, but while on stage accepting

0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:43.479
<v Speaker 2>the award, her face melts and all her classmates freak out,

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:44.719
<v Speaker 2>and then she passes out.

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 3>She wakes up at Olivia's.

0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Place, where she finds out that her and her father

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:51.280
<v Speaker 2>are actually Cuban but they changed.

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:53.919
<v Speaker 3>Did y'all take anything.

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.680
<v Speaker 2>From this scene because there was quite a few things

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:57.839
<v Speaker 2>where I was like, this is this is actually kind

0:55:57.840 --> 0:55:58.399
<v Speaker 2>of fucked up.

0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I didn't I think I missed that was her dad.

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:08.000
<v Speaker 4>I thought they should They left their families. All did

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 4>unseasoned food. How you have an all white plate?

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 3>They had undercooked chicken.

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:19.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the boiled chicken coliflour and mashed potatoes.

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Everything in the house was white.

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was crazy.

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.360
<v Speaker 3>So his biggest thing to look out the drinking milk.

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.800
<v Speaker 4>And then some of the conversation that they were having,

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:29.439
<v Speaker 4>like like, we don't talk about race.

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Did he say that we don't even say that word here?

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm thinking about like how to a certain degree society. Well,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:44.399
<v Speaker 5>it's like you're saying, we don't talk about race, all

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 5>this other things, but you want the standard to be white,

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, because that is in this world America, in

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:59.279
<v Speaker 5>the world period, the acceptable version, the acceptable race, and

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:01.439
<v Speaker 5>you want every thing to be that, which is why

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:05.319
<v Speaker 5>there's this fear of minority births and all this other

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:10.320
<v Speaker 5>stuff that's happening even right now, the whole white supremacy.

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:13.800
<v Speaker 5>Then preserving whiteness, you know, ship that we're seeing right now.

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:16.600
<v Speaker 5>So you're trying to say that we're doing this for

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 5>the betterment of man kind of whatever the speech was,

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 5>and he's getting rid of the idea of the construct

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.280
<v Speaker 5>the race, and we're just gonna be just one big

0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:32.720
<v Speaker 5>whole society. But what is it is whiteness. So yeah,

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 5>and everything is going to be white. So I think

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 5>the interesting thing is you take like what they call

0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 5>them the model, the model minority or something like that

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:52.120
<v Speaker 5>model minority like the Asians and how they're perceived in America.

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 1>The Yeah, and.

0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 5>So I thought that's why this movie was interesting seeing

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 5>them know this story when when they when they were

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 5>first here, they were looked upon and shun and and

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 5>hate it. But later on adapted because they were contributing positively,

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, to America. But the elimination of race, trying

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 5>to say we're gonna eliminate race and it's just gonna

0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:22.080
<v Speaker 5>be white.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it was very interesting?

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I I thought some of the things that

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the dad was saying, like when he says, eventually people

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 2>who don't share the same ideology fade away.

0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 3>So I thought that was interesting.

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 2>This this kind of nazi ish uh commentary on assimilation.

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was cool.

0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the unseasoned, half cooked chicken and the drinking

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:53.240
<v Speaker 2>of just plain milk, I was like, this is disgusting, disgusting.

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 3>Collie flower and ships, I'm just saying it was just.

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 2>It does not expect you had a mash cauliflower.

0:59:01.800 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just tight.

0:59:04.840 --> 0:59:08.120
<v Speaker 2>It's just good. All right, they get some ship work,

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 2>they get some ship white.

0:59:10.480 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 5>Right, I did say, got me bro Jesus Christ.

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Cauliflower.

0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Rice is just.

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Funks off with that ship. That's definitely some white folks

0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:24.640
<v Speaker 2>made that ship up.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 3>So she leaves.

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>She returns home where she reconciles with her family, face off,

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>fucked up.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 3>This part I think.

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Was very strong. The monologue from her father, whoever wants

0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>to go can jump in. What did y'all think of

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 2>this part? All right, Spike, what did you think of

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 2>this part? I didn't want to go far because you

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 2>weren't paying attention, so I figured to get you out, Puck.

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was it was fine.

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't as moved by it, but I do think

0:59:55.880 --> 1:00:00.160
<v Speaker 4>that it showed great parenting and accepting their daughter. U oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're a great parent, and for what he had to say,

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<v Speaker 4>and accepting her back after she had done that all

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<v Speaker 4>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I liked it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, this is the part I was talking about

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<v Speaker 6>earlier with her and saying like why. This is where

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<v Speaker 6>she's explained why you know you brought me to this country?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Almost like kind of like what do you expect?

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<v Speaker 6>I can't remember that came later, but this is where

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<v Speaker 6>they kind of apologized for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The mom says, we came here and we were already

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<v Speaker 2>Asian or Chinese or whatever. Yeah, And she almost seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like she was saying that she didn't really think through

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<v Speaker 2>how she would feel, how it would feel growing up here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so that's what I was saying, like when I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't need the context because of this part, So I

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<v Speaker 6>assume that you know, she's had this whole life of

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<v Speaker 6>I mean cause even you look at the wall, like

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<v Speaker 6>it's all white, white people, like all these white artists

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<v Speaker 6>and things like that. So it's kind of the also

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<v Speaker 6>made me think too, like, as a parent, how why

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<v Speaker 6>aren't you a little bit more tapped in as to

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<v Speaker 6>like what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>With your daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>You mean, because of all the pictures and stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>the wall.

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<v Speaker 6>All the pictures she clearly I mean even when she

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<v Speaker 6>dyed her hair, She's like, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you do to your hair?

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that because you kind of just think

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<v Speaker 1>teens are being teens.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but this was a string though.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a problem with this part, probably because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I grew up that way. You know, My

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<v Speaker 2>walls were covered in skateboarders and the majority of them

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<v Speaker 2>were white because back then there weren't that many black skateboarders.

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<v Speaker 2>I dyed my hair maroon, I dyed my hair green.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom just looked at it as, oh, he's different,

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<v Speaker 2>he's an artist.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>She never at any point was like, well, are you

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to be white? Because that never entered, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation ever with her. That conversation, of course, would

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<v Speaker 2>happened at high school because they would look at you

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, yeah, skateboarding, you wearing those big old

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<v Speaker 2>baggy pants and whatever, you know, dyeing your hair, wearing

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<v Speaker 2>these weird shirts.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to be white? You know I don't, So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you're probably looking at this from the

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<v Speaker 2>lens of the type of father you are. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that this was a weird scene to me,

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<v Speaker 2>like them just being like, well her, well.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not true. It is weird. But I could also.

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<v Speaker 2>See why a migrant family, first gen would not have

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<v Speaker 2>a big issue with it because they.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted her to be American.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to say too much for y'all

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<v Speaker 2>say everything that y'all want to say about said pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much what I was saying. Did you have anything to

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<v Speaker 2>add to this?

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<v Speaker 3>Ken?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you don't think about the potential repercussions of decisions.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to do the best thing that you that's

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<v Speaker 5>for your kids, and for them, it was the land

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<v Speaker 5>of opportunity here in America. To get them over here

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<v Speaker 5>and to grow up in America to benefit from that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we don't know what they were running into, what,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, their positions were.

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<v Speaker 1>All they knew is that.

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<v Speaker 5>America was supposed to be better, yes, and they came

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<v Speaker 5>over here, and to them, they thought that the cultural

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<v Speaker 5>identity of who she is would remain intact a lot

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<v Speaker 5>because of how they maintained their household and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 5>singing of songs, you know, and stuff like that, speaking

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<v Speaker 5>the language and stuff. So there was definitely a blind

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<v Speaker 5>spot to what rob was saying, was what is her

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<v Speaker 5>life saying? Just visually, like all the posters of white

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<v Speaker 5>people on the wall and the dying of the hair.

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<v Speaker 1>The music to muse it.

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<v Speaker 5>But again, you're in America, so it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>that ship, you know. So you know, it's just it's

1:04:13.120 --> 1:04:16.040
<v Speaker 5>white artists and she's at a white school, so you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of start to adopt some of those things based

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<v Speaker 5>on her peers. So it kind of made sense for

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<v Speaker 5>her to kind of also ignore that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Peer pressure and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So but I love the conversation and just really saying

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<v Speaker 5>that you know, to hold on to who you are,

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<v Speaker 5>your identity and all the other stuff, and really basically

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<v Speaker 5>accepting and taking her back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was.

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<v Speaker 5>Big of them, not me, You're not my daughter, face

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<v Speaker 5>off up to look like damn Martin and ship you

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<v Speaker 5>got that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>She actually does look like that's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so nobody touched on the dad's speech, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little disappointed in all three of you, because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought the dad's speech was beautiful. I'm I'm really shocked. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not shocked to Spike. The Spike didn't give a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck about this movie at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what the dad oh man, So I wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote it down in the theater he said, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he said being, He said, when I came here, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be American. But like he said, being American

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<v Speaker 2>is not the goal. The goal is the opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>He said.

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped following other people and I became my own American.

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<v Speaker 2>And you will find your own American too. That ship

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<v Speaker 2>in the theater swear to guy gave me goosebumps.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking beautiful, ye because to a cowboy had Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 2>the whole I became my own American, And eventually you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find your own American. It will happen because you have

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<v Speaker 2>to understand what what actually not what Maga says American is,

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<v Speaker 2>but what American actually is. It's anything, It's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be anything. Being Americans should have nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>white skin, ethnicity, nothing like that. It should be about

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<v Speaker 2>having the freedom to do anything you want. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the only time where I was like, damn, the movie

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<v Speaker 2>is bringing it home, and especially coming from the father.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you talk about he.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't bother to learn the English.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to because he was trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>his own version of what an American was.

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<v Speaker 3>And to him, it was just being here and being free, being.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, having the ability to do what he wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, provide for his family and just be here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he saw as being an American. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>speaking English, it was what'd you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Or a software engineer working in.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, yes, it wasn't you know, having higher aspirations.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a great father, and his daughter loved him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why this monologue was so good to me coming

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<v Speaker 2>from him, because you can see how much his daughter

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<v Speaker 2>adored him. The daughter didn't really fuck with the mom

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but when the dad was leaving to go

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<v Speaker 2>to work, by dad so long they had this beautiful relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so disappointed in her because he wanted her

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<v Speaker 2>to have her own version of what an American is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not a white person, right, So I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's what he thought.

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<v Speaker 6>She was doing this whole time, trying to find what

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<v Speaker 6>her American is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but he was fine because she was still speaking

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese and the house, you know, she was still helping

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<v Speaker 2>her mom with the food.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, for whatever, he's not long gone hit that. That

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<v Speaker 6>part didn't hit me like that, damn. And I guess

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<v Speaker 6>like because I'm not like patriotic. So it's just like

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<v Speaker 6>when he said that, it was kind of cringey. Actually,

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<v Speaker 6>oh wow, when he said that an American Like, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think I've ever said that, But why would you

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<v Speaker 6>You're not an immigrant, You're an American period, you were

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<v Speaker 6>born here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think an immigrant saying that because there's

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<v Speaker 2>been propaganda probably from day one about how great America

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<v Speaker 2>is and how America is the land of the free.

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<v Speaker 2>You get here and you realize that's not really the case.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he says being American is not the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if any mind my friends like that

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<v Speaker 6>would say that, though.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't got no friends like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I don't know what you ask them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's a crazy question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're black. I'm sure they've asked you about

1:09:02.160 --> 1:09:03.680
<v Speaker 2>being a black American. I don't think I got to

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<v Speaker 2>ask you. I've never heard them say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to my African friends like that all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean to do too, But have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 3>them say anything like that?

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<v Speaker 6>Not not Dick, I have other Africans.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus, really good. This scene really.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit from me. It did.

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<v Speaker 6>I like, I like some of the dog loog It

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<v Speaker 6>was just that specific thing I did hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Roight.

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<v Speaker 1>What I am bro Americans? It's like some.

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<v Speaker 3>Bullshit, that's his point.

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<v Speaker 1>But why why why I say fine, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say real quick.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm just kind of reiterating, like why say, find

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<v Speaker 6>my my own American.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he's finding his own version of what that means

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<v Speaker 2>to him. Being American is not the goal. The goal

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<v Speaker 2>is the opposite. Y'all motherfuckers wasn't paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I thought this was the dopest fucking monologue

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<v Speaker 2>in the whole movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I liked what he said before about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when he was disappointed and stuff. I like that, But

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I remember that you brought it

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<v Speaker 6>up about the Grid and that I thought that was

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<v Speaker 6>really stronge.

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<v Speaker 3>That was good. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was But

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this was way better.

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<v Speaker 2>Being American is not the goal, it's the opposite. I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped following other people and became my own Americans.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounded like it was supposed to be a bar.

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<v Speaker 6>It was, and it wasn't patriotic. I'm surprised y'all read

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<v Speaker 6>it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have been patriotic if he said the opposite,

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<v Speaker 2>being American is the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not what he said. He said, it's not the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to find my own American.

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<v Speaker 2>He's I stopped following other people and became my own

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<v Speaker 2>American anyway because the opportunity was still better than where

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<v Speaker 2>he was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when you look at when you look at people

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<v Speaker 2>like Mexican folks, they're just like speaking Spanish and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, why can't you learn English?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't fucking have to because English is not the

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<v Speaker 2>the official language of America.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me an example to find your own American.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, No, that is real life, like when you see

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<v Speaker 2>someone that, like you ever go up to.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Beutford Highway doesn't mean yeeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautford Highway for those listening is an area that is

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<v Speaker 2>very predominantly Asian and Mexican. There are certain places in

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<v Speaker 2>Beauford Highway.

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<v Speaker 3>You not gonna hear a look at English.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I Guerican.

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<v Speaker 2>That is their own American. They have they have found

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<v Speaker 2>their own American. They've become their own American when they

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<v Speaker 2>when they're from somewhere else and they're they're moving here,

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<v Speaker 2>their idea of what being American is like, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>cowboy hat, American flag T shirt, I'm proud being an American.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm free. But then they realized, well, no, that's

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<v Speaker 3>some bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>I can keep all of my own culture and still

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<v Speaker 2>be here because there's no official ethnicity, language, nothing for America.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we are our own version of American.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't you think that I was sorry? I would I

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't say it that way, That's all I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't say why not.

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<v Speaker 2>You're an American and you're not just an African American.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a different thinking. We don't fucking we don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about racist, asshole COVID here resting piss.

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<v Speaker 3>But don't you look at all of us like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because think about it, if if if you took the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of what an American is from MAGA. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>none of us are that, None of us are that.

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<v Speaker 3>We have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have found our own version of what an American is.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all Americans.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an American, but I fucking hate this country, but

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<v Speaker 3>I still live here. Right, You're an.

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<v Speaker 2>American, but you're positive about you know plenty of shit,

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<v Speaker 2>but you understand how fuckive American is, but you're still

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<v Speaker 2>an American. We've all become our own version of what

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<v Speaker 2>an American.

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<v Speaker 6>And I feel that I just wouldn't say that out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I gotta ask, he says Corny it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like, no, it's not about it being corny.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just not patriotic, and it sounds very It sounds

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<v Speaker 6>that way to me because.

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<v Speaker 3>You're from here.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about this from the eyes of an immigrant. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know I keep interrupting you, Spike, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the guy to come over here, and let's

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<v Speaker 4>say he knows landscape and he works as a landscape

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<v Speaker 4>at a company for two three years, save his money

1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:49.879
<v Speaker 4>of you by a truck, you're doing his own landscaping,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he hires a crew of people that look

1:13:51.880 --> 1:13:53.599
<v Speaker 4>like him, and like Mike said, it's his culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's his version of American.

1:13:56.400 --> 1:13:58.720
<v Speaker 4>Like it don't got to be I came over here,

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<v Speaker 4>learn the language, know the whatever test you gotta pay.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's I came over here, I worked my ass off,

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<v Speaker 4>I built something up a company. I employed people that

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<v Speaker 4>look like me. We get to be each other around

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<v Speaker 4>each other, Like that's an American American dream.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but we're quick.

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<v Speaker 6>We got a rebuttal so so sure, like he's found

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<v Speaker 6>his own American, but he's still not accepted that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Though I think it matters, doesn't because we're going that

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<v Speaker 4>were not accepted.

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<v Speaker 3>We're Americans and we're not so.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the point. It doesn't matter what't say it

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<v Speaker 2>that way, but their acceptance doesn't matter. Once again, being

1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:44.200
<v Speaker 2>American is not the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>The goal is the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I'm not I'm not caring about what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck y'all want.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as I got.

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<v Speaker 2>My household, my family, and my culture is still intact.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't give a fuck. Acceptotic it was, it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 6>It was the opposite of a patriotic statement. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 6>might he had to say American to make her understand

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<v Speaker 6>maybe we've been brainwashing the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything like that sounds patriotic.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but you know, to a certain degree, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's just like, uh, just listening to them talk, there's

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of countries where that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Spike was describing can go to and do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And do that, and that's an American thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's kind of what.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an American thing, like, you know, even if we

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<v Speaker 4>go other places when we're talking about learning language, of

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<v Speaker 4>course I was joking. But if you go other places

1:15:36.240 --> 1:15:38.599
<v Speaker 4>and you don't bother to learn language, they don't they're

1:15:38.600 --> 1:15:39.000
<v Speaker 4>not going to.

1:15:39.000 --> 1:15:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Look at you.

1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:43.200
<v Speaker 4>You can't build up I think anything reputable somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 4>not speaking the language there.

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<v Speaker 3>You think you can disagree, Yeah you can't. Yeah, I

1:15:48.439 --> 1:15:49.000
<v Speaker 3>think you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are places, especially if we're talking about well,

1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:55.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously they speak English in the UK, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>were moving to like France or someplace like that, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it would not be super hard to accomplish that buthole. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing France for example. I'm probably you're You're

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<v Speaker 2>probably right for correcting me. You're probably right, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think there are other places that you could go and

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<v Speaker 2>build up a business.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, maybe it's a little bit easier.

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<v Speaker 1>You point.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that goes to your point though, that's what

1:16:22.200 --> 1:16:26.000
<v Speaker 4>American is easier to do here because there is no

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<v Speaker 4>like monolith of what an American.

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<v Speaker 3>Is supposed to be the.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes image.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, That's why I think that this scene fucking hit

1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:42.439
<v Speaker 2>because it was like, man that I love that it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's to me, it's the exact opposite of patriotic, because

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<v Speaker 2>a patriotic motherfucker would say, well, being an American means

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<v Speaker 2>you love America most of the time. You're white, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you love fucking God and country. That's not these people

1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:02.479
<v Speaker 2>and my pistol. Oh yes, you love guns, you love God,

1:17:02.720 --> 1:17:04.919
<v Speaker 2>you love beef, those are your things.

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<v Speaker 3>These people aren't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But they are still Americans, at least in this idealistic

1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:14.240
<v Speaker 2>world of what America is. They are still Americans.

1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:18.040
<v Speaker 3>But if it only hit from me, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>One last scene, they try one more time to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Ethnos and they plead for them to fix Joan,

1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:27.240
<v Speaker 2>but doctor Singer repeats that it's impossible because the procedure

1:17:27.320 --> 1:17:31.200
<v Speaker 2>is permanent. This cust to Joan at home, tearing at

1:17:31.200 --> 1:17:34.400
<v Speaker 2>her face, and the movie ends with her ripping out

1:17:34.439 --> 1:17:38.240
<v Speaker 2>a piece around her eye, revealing her Asian eyes under it.

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<v Speaker 3>Their place looked like he got the poppety Yeah.

1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, everybody don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be white now.

1:17:49.640 --> 1:17:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but what did y'all think of this final scene?

1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:56.920
<v Speaker 1>That's the part when she was like, this ship was stupid.

1:17:57.360 --> 1:17:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Terrible for now, Yeah, because how's that underneath this whole

1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:05.519
<v Speaker 6>other person?

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<v Speaker 3>And then why can't they just do wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so y'all did y'all not catch what the doctor

1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:12.920
<v Speaker 2>said when he was.

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<v Speaker 6>He was just saying like you're like a seed and

1:18:15.640 --> 1:18:17.760
<v Speaker 6>it's like peeling back or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're not talking about that part.

1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:22.400
<v Speaker 6>But what he said, what did you say about the seed?

1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Said for a new plant to grow and flourish, the

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<v Speaker 2>seed has to die.

1:18:27.280 --> 1:18:31.759
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the seed is her culture.

1:18:32.479 --> 1:18:36.439
<v Speaker 2>The seed is her She didn't completely abandon her Asian kid,

1:18:37.240 --> 1:18:40.280
<v Speaker 2>so it was still there. That's why this new plant

1:18:40.640 --> 1:18:45.559
<v Speaker 2>could not grow and flourish. It was falling apart. That's

1:18:45.600 --> 1:18:49.000
<v Speaker 2>why earlier Olivia says, your face flight to that first,

1:18:49.000 --> 1:18:51.559
<v Speaker 2>because you're not immediately going to give your culture up.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the scene, I didn't love the ending, but

1:18:56.280 --> 1:18:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I think the ending, combined with what he said, made

1:18:59.520 --> 1:19:00.360
<v Speaker 2>made send no.

1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:02.160
<v Speaker 3>The ending with it. Yeah, I like what he said

1:19:02.200 --> 1:19:03.120
<v Speaker 3>and that made sense.

1:19:03.240 --> 1:19:07.479
<v Speaker 6>Like like said she said it earlier, like as long

1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:09.439
<v Speaker 6>as you fight yet like I think it as like,

1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:11.479
<v Speaker 6>as long as you're fighting, still fighting for your culture,

1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:13.840
<v Speaker 6>it's not gonna you know, it's gonna it's gonna fall off.

1:19:14.360 --> 1:19:16.599
<v Speaker 6>But the part that I had it aesthetically is what

1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:20.439
<v Speaker 6>I had an issue with, Like how how was that

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<v Speaker 6>underneath this new white girl? Like that's the part that

1:19:23.760 --> 1:19:26.280
<v Speaker 6>I had an issue with. Yeah, I stopped caring like

1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:29.840
<v Speaker 6>the visual like logic. When it came to this movie again,

1:19:29.880 --> 1:19:31.400
<v Speaker 6>I had to suspended leak all the way to the

1:19:31.439 --> 1:19:34.000
<v Speaker 6>last scene. Yeah, like that's yeah, that was just too

1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:36.280
<v Speaker 6>much for me. That's too much for me.

1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 3>But I mean it was it was a nice attempt.

1:19:38.560 --> 1:19:40.400
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't terrible a terrible.

1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:42.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it was a nice attempt at a at a

1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:46.759
<v Speaker 6>movie they just needed. They just needed a bigger budget.

1:19:46.760 --> 1:19:49.519
<v Speaker 6>I think to show, like the process, a little bit

1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:52.479
<v Speaker 6>of backstory, like y'all said. I think it just needed

1:19:52.560 --> 1:19:55.559
<v Speaker 6>that because get Out that's what get Out thrived. Yes,

1:19:55.720 --> 1:19:59.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, you knew how they were doing these procedurescause

1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:02.120
<v Speaker 6>they were shown and they were telling you how it

1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:05.320
<v Speaker 6>was happening. They give no fucks about how this happens.

1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:08.640
<v Speaker 6>They didn't give no no, they didn't care about like

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't they didn't try to explain that at all.

1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:13.000
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I had I had a problem with that.

1:20:13.120 --> 1:20:16.240
<v Speaker 2>See so where you have a problem with that, but

1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:21.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have a problem with needing more backstory. I didn't

1:20:21.040 --> 1:20:24.680
<v Speaker 2>care about seeing the procedure. I didn't care about tell

1:20:24.800 --> 1:20:27.519
<v Speaker 2>me I see I did they they they kind of

1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:28.720
<v Speaker 2>showed the little laser thing.

1:20:28.960 --> 1:20:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I just didn't. I didn't care.

1:20:30.960 --> 1:20:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Because I was already like, well, this is ridiculous. This

1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:36.439
<v Speaker 2>is a ridiculous fucking concept that you change an entire race.

1:20:37.080 --> 1:20:39.479
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna ride with it.

1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So that part I didn't really mind. It could have

1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>been cool if you had some money and you showed

1:20:44.439 --> 1:20:49.200
<v Speaker 2>how this happens, but you already have to suspend this

1:20:49.360 --> 1:20:51.800
<v Speaker 2>belief because like, you're not doing all this.

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<v Speaker 3>In an hour or two. Yeah, I would pain free.

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<v Speaker 1>I see.

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<v Speaker 6>For me, I would have believed it more if like

1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:03.200
<v Speaker 6>they took the Asian actor and put like some sort

1:21:03.240 --> 1:21:07.920
<v Speaker 6>of prosthetic on her to make her white, versus just

1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:09.559
<v Speaker 6>getting a whole nother fucking actor.

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<v Speaker 2>But see, if you did that, then I think it

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<v Speaker 2>defeats the purpose of them saying that you're becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>completely different person. You know, if if it was prosthetics

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<v Speaker 2>on an Asian actress, we're still gonna look at her

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<v Speaker 2>and say, oh, well, that's fucking Joan from the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie, But after seeing McKenna grays, you're just like, Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole idea behind it, especially when that whole ethnos

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<v Speaker 5>thing got was going and the lines were crazy. I

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<v Speaker 5>think I was in the in the movie that I

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<v Speaker 5>was about to test. I was like, this damn movie

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<v Speaker 5>is wow? This they really going there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Because but I think they could have gone there and

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't. I think they could have. They could have

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<v Speaker 2>fucked the.

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<v Speaker 1>Idea of turning a person. They could have gone further.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, I do agree with that, even

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<v Speaker 5>just the idea of just like everything is about being

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<v Speaker 5>white and we're gonna turn people into white and we're

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<v Speaker 5>just gonna talk about how great it is to be

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<v Speaker 5>white on Like, Yo, they are here.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me more, give me, give me more of a

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<v Speaker 2>reason to understand the motives. What does she benefit from

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<v Speaker 2>Give me more of that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a little bit smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I needed to be a little bit smarter. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good way to put it. So Yeah, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody got any lost words for slanted?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I want more of these?

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<v Speaker 3>Did black there?

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<v Speaker 1>He did it? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've I think they could have done. You're right, they haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking to get out, but that's not that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the same. It's not the same. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>black person wanted to be white.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see that, but I mean it would need

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<v Speaker 2>to be it can't be no fucking.

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<v Speaker 4>To be movie they like, and they're doing something similar

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<v Speaker 4>with the girl was getting backlash for what's the one

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<v Speaker 4>that play in the movie with Somema Woka the Buddy

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<v Speaker 4>movie what's her name?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's sizzl? She played in the movie with silken

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<v Speaker 3>Kie Palmer. And she doing a movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Where an Asian girl is trying to fit in with

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<v Speaker 4>black people. Did y'all hear about that? Yeah, she's producing

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<v Speaker 4>a movie where an Asian girl goes to an HBCU

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<v Speaker 4>and it's trying to fit in with like the black.

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<v Speaker 2>People, and like, yeah, but I think they're saying that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this have worked if there was a black protagonist, and yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could work, but it would have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a very smart filmmaker.

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<v Speaker 3>It had to be like what y'all are explaining in smartness, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think that it would also matter who you're

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<v Speaker 2>making this for. If you're making this for black folks,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll already understand it. Yeah, we'll already understand it. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're making this for the general audience, then I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this needs to be a two hour movie

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<v Speaker 2>and it needs to have a lot of nuance and

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<v Speaker 2>detail of why a black person would want to go

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>I would watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would definitely watch it, but I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, Well, sound like a Jordan Peel film.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't like a Jordan Peel film. Anyway, Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it, I guess for this review. Apologize for

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<v Speaker 2>the racism here. You know, some of it was unintentional,

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<v Speaker 2>others unintentional lies.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Just learn the goddamn language, man, Like when you come

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<v Speaker 2>over here, learn the fucking language.

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<v Speaker 3>Man speak what some of his daughter said.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't want to speak, why then go back

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<v Speaker 2>where the fuck you came from.

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<v Speaker 4>Those that I didn't right, you disagreed with it because

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<v Speaker 4>you said at the beginning of the review that's why

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<v Speaker 4>I got her f.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't bother to learn the language.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus like exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wait, is Spike leading to a joke,

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<v Speaker 2>But nah, he's kept going.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, na, he really just he really does speaking

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<v Speaker 3>right now? Anyways, the movie's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I would see another movie she does, hopefully she gets

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger budget and another writer. I think that would

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<v Speaker 2>benefit her to get a co writer, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's going to do with this review.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know what you thought, share with a friend

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<v Speaker 2>or two, and we will see y'all next time.

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<v Speaker 1>White people, let us know how you feel about it.