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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of The Fame Second Podcast. I

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Speaker 2: remember the evening. My name is Mike, next me. I

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Speaker 2: have Spikes, Spike, I have Ken, can have Rock.

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Speaker 3: We row down your review immediately. You know we're trying

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Speaker 3: to get through this.

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Speaker 2: Today we are reviewing the movie Slanted. I would admit

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Speaker 2: this was my suggestion because there really wasn't any movies

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Speaker 2: that were coming out this week. I saw the trailer

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Speaker 2: for this, and I was like, Okay, that could be

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Speaker 2: an interesting conversation. We're gonna quickly go around the room. Spike,

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Speaker 2: what did you think of Slanted?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: It was fine, no surprises, Like it was very predictable.

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Speaker 4: That was my biggest takeaway. Like, the whole time I

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Speaker 4: was sitting there, I knew what was gonna happen next.

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Speaker 2: So damn psychic in this, Ken, you trying to get

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Speaker 2: like right a little bit X men in training? Okay, Ken?

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Speaker 2: I had two responses, don't you do no racist ship, bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like.

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Speaker 1: This whole face saw When I got one response, respond.

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Speaker 5: Man, I'm not, you know, I'm not. What's what's the

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Speaker 5: Tim McGraw, I'm not a racist?

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Speaker 3: Tira was lying too.

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Speaker 1: I think when it was.

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Speaker 5: Over with, I think there's a predictability of it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's fairly obviously. You don't have to be, you know,

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Speaker 5: a genius to figure it out. I love the fact

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Speaker 5: that we get to see them tell their story from

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Speaker 5: another perspective. I think so when I got home, and

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Speaker 5: you know, I always think about, like, what was the.

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Speaker 1: Question that was asked?

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Speaker 5: They're like, oh, yeah, that was cool, and that was

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Speaker 5: the thing I said. It was good to see like

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Speaker 5: another side of the story. It's often I'm often watching

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Speaker 5: them through mod lens of the story about what it's

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Speaker 5: like to be black. So I thought that was cool.

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Speaker 5: The lady when the movie was over said, this ship

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Speaker 5: was stupid as fuck.

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Speaker 1: That was sitting over there for.

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Speaker 5: Me and like that and she sounded of black. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: she was like, this is stupidest. I guess it was

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Speaker 5: the ending that kind of threw off. There wasn't a real,

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Speaker 5: like firm resolution to it.

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Speaker 1: And I said the same thing.

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Speaker 5: I was like, man, I had to go see that

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Speaker 5: stupid ass movie because I had to cram it in.

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Speaker 5: But it was more the frustration of acting a lot

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Speaker 5: and my weekend and less about.

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Speaker 1: The movie being stupid.

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Speaker 5: But Uh, but it was interesting watching their their story

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Speaker 5: being told, but it wasn't really a lot there and

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Speaker 5: all lot of.

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Speaker 3: Stupid me Rob, what do you think of slanting?

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Speaker 6: I'm kind of like where Mike Spike is like, it

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Speaker 6: was fine, It looked like it was fine, but you

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Speaker 6: had to suspen a lot of belief, like just something

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Speaker 6: the stuff that was happening.

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Speaker 3: Do you mean.

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Speaker 1: Changed it to a white lady? Were talking about fucking happened?

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Speaker 3: Michael Jackson did?

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, but but that's not even the same.

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Speaker 6: It's what we do person shade. I thought, I'm not,

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Speaker 6: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I guess I just looked at it. I thought that

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Speaker 1: was the movie.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I didn't look at that and suspending

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Speaker 5: the belief. It's just like watching any type of fantasies

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Speaker 5: of my movie about weird ship happened. That isn't really possible.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about something outside of.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's other stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say that particularly. I just say you had

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Speaker 3: to suspend This is like a generic version of that

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Speaker 3: other movie that we saw.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like substance meets something else or whatever, like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Why because Asian company? Oh I know that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I really didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I God, damn it.

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Speaker 3: I swear to God, I didn't know that. I thought

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Speaker 3: Tino was Africans up. Oh no, look you didn't know,

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Speaker 3: so that where you didn't I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: We knew that. I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: My God, that would have been I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Stop laughing, y'all, please listening to this. I promise you.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that team it was Agent. I

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Speaker 2: thought it was an African company for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Damn well that's great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I was thinking like reverse get out to

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, get on?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, how was that racist?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 2: I said on? I didn't have no agent, So y'all, okay,

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Speaker 2: we're starting over. We're starting over, y'all. I said get on.

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Speaker 2: I didn't say get on, come on. That didn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense. That doesn't even make any sense.

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Speaker 3: Y'all are terrible. Stop by Jesus man. That is not

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Speaker 3: what I wanted this to be.

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Speaker 2: No, no, every instance of racism so far my account

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Speaker 2: has been completely unintentional. I swear to God on my

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Speaker 2: life and my Cat's Life. I did not know that

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Speaker 2: Tebu was an Asian compo. I swear on my life,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, I feel so bad.

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Speaker 1: Are you done? Rod?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry? I think so god feel terrible. Okay.

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Speaker 2: This was the major film directorial debut from Amy Wang.

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Speaker 2: She'd previously done a show called The Birch, but I

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Speaker 2: haven't I haven't seen it, so this was her first

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Speaker 2: foray into being a movie director. All right, so let's

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Speaker 2: jump in this movie. So we meet young Joan Wong,

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Speaker 2: her and her family not Wong, is it Wog? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, right, Oh, I didn't even say did I

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Speaker 2: my bad? I thought it was barely okay. I do

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Speaker 2: agree with this suspending disbelief part, which I was actually

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Speaker 2: completely fine with suspending disbelief, but there were certain things

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Speaker 2: which we'll get into, where it was like, okay, even

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Speaker 2: if I'm suspending disbelief, that doesn't make any sense. I

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Speaker 2: but I one hundred percent think that this was a

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Speaker 2: a goodwill version of the substance like they they damn

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Speaker 2: near followed the substance beat for beat. So I just

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Speaker 2: looked at this movie like it was extremely uncreative. So

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Speaker 2: that was a bummer because I think this story could

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Speaker 2: have been cool. But bring up get Out is good.

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Speaker 2: So yes, it was like get Out mixed with the substance.

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Speaker 2: So I think the directing was okay, So maybe she'll

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Speaker 2: do a better job in the next movie. But she wrote, directed,

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Speaker 2: and produced this, and maybe that's the problem. Just like

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Speaker 2: we always say, well kritneys again on other people's production,

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Speaker 2: Maybe not J Cole.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's the issue here.

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Speaker 2: She she tried to wear too many hats and them

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Speaker 2: shits waved her head down and broke her neck.

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Speaker 6: That's what it was. It was substance meets Mean Girls.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you ever seen Mean Girls. No,

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Speaker 6: but I know what I know the premise. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 6: what that's what I saw. But yeah I wasn't. I

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Speaker 6: didn't feel like I was robbed, but I definitely felt

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Speaker 2: Need to see this shit in the theater, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: So I apologize for making us go.

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Speaker 6: I saw it for a screen I scene oh really, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 6: I would have been annoyed, feels the screen, and I wasn't. Actually,

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh shit, this is the movie we

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Speaker 6: gonna review, so I ain't have to go on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: So I'm saying, if we weren't reviewing it, and I

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, so a lot of people in

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Speaker 3: there were shot.

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Speaker 6: Like, like I said, I was sitting next to like

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Speaker 6: two white chicks.

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Speaker 1: Just so happened. It was two white chickens.

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Speaker 3: This is fucked up? Why they like this?

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Speaker 6: It was murmurs like I was just I was trying

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Speaker 3: I almost did. I was talking to another black dude

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Speaker 3: that after we.

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Speaker 1: Left would have good market research.

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Speaker 3: But boy, yeah, yeah, I agree. I really wanted to

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Speaker 3: know to know how white women thought about this. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not black people this time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't blame must for this.

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Speaker 2: Y'all realize y'all pissing everybody, right, It's not just us?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we meet Joan Wong I think was her last name.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna look it up while we're talking. Her and

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Speaker 2: her family moved to the US from China, and she's

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Speaker 2: struggling as a child to connect to her white peers,

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Speaker 2: we fast forward to her as a young adult and

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Speaker 2: we see her obsessed with a white woman named Olivia

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Speaker 2: Hammond while using this app that makes her.

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Speaker 3: Appear as a white woman.

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Speaker 2: But what were y'all's initial impressions of her as well

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Speaker 2: as her mom and dad spike.

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Speaker 3: Initial impressions.

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Speaker 4: I felt the mom and dad wanted a better life

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Speaker 4: but they were still traditionalists as far as their culture,

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Speaker 4: people that she was around in school. I think she

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Speaker 4: was using Instagram, but it was a filter on Instagram.

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Speaker 4: You said it was an app. It was Instagram, and

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Speaker 4: she was supposed to app. But the filter is what

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Speaker 7: Not that just's technic just well, actually, I'm just saying

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Speaker 7: they would have said about they, Yeah, I thought it was.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was.

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Speaker 4: The notes have been played in this the Stinky Lunch,

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Speaker 4: like all the stuff like I've seen before, So it

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Speaker 2: Notes what about y'all, What did y'all think of Joan

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Speaker 6: I can just tell that she was she was, she was,

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Speaker 6: She's clearly Asian. But but nah, I can tell that

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Speaker 6: she was like enamored by like American culture. So that

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Speaker 6: and I thought, the uh, the filter thing was interesting.

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Speaker 6: So they basically you know, I mean a lot of

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Speaker 6: people do that, not just you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: just these filters, and you know that these filters have

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Speaker 6: to come from from somewhere, and not understanding that they

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Speaker 6: might be market research happening behind these are like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: you're using this and you're using that, So just being

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Speaker 2: Sometimes Wait, so there are filters that will make you

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Speaker 4: Enhancements and stuff like that, you'll look different.

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Speaker 2: But this literally made her into a white woman. That

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Speaker 2: was the whole point, because.

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Speaker 3: That's probably one out there like that. I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't either. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're selling it off, rip.

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Speaker 5: as like she's just upset with being white. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: Here's this girl, she's obsessed with being white, even doing

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Speaker 3: It's what I got from.

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Speaker 6: I think that stuff is pushed in our society, in society,

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Speaker 3: No, I got all that.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is for someone to go through this

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Speaker 2: Just there wasn't enough meat on this for me, and

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Speaker 3: Of the picture. I didn't even need it though, because

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Speaker 2: But let's let's draw a regular ass, boring, unseasoned white

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Speaker 6: I don't need it because I because I live here

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Speaker 5: But you live here, we grow up in it. In

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to, like just think if I'm.

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Speaker 6: So so what I'm saying is that, like you said,

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Speaker 2: It didn't seem like, No, that's that's not we don't

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Speaker 6: Yes in the house, yes, but I don't see it

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Speaker 3: Was more her idea.

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Speaker 4: I'm greeing with Rodden since I thought her idea of

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Speaker 4: I think we don't have that issue as belliding being

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Speaker 4: I can be beautiful and still be black. I thought

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what the movie says to us. Okay, got it.

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Speaker 2: But also with the company itself, it doesn't make sense

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Speaker 3: Y'all gonna have to tell us that because I.

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Speaker 2: Just I'm not. I don't feel like I should have

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Speaker 5: And I agree with that, like historically based on what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it, I know it exists.

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Speaker 5: I know they've been experienced sort of racism and prejudice

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Speaker 6: I didn't need that because they talked about it towards

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Speaker 3: They didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what part you're talking about. She changed

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Speaker 2: watched The Substance, they made it very painfully clear why

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Speaker 2: Demi Moore's character was doing what she's doing. That's what

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Speaker 3: It's like, this movie, didn't you look an I'm saying

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Speaker 1: For her age. It's almost like they wanted to rely

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: The reason why, yes, they made her obsessed with being

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Speaker 3: And it's like, wait, so.

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Speaker 1: To the background.

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Speaker 6: I didn't need all the extra background as far to

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Speaker 1: Motive.

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Speaker 2: For me, it's sounds like you agree with us, but

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Speaker 2: The motive to change her race being prom queen doesn't

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Speaker 3: I needed more motive than just being prong queen. But

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Speaker 6: I don't need the extra background and the nuance of

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Speaker 3: Man, that's not no.

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Speaker 1: I'll just move on, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't need the extra But I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm with y'all.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'm enough motive, but I don't need no

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Speaker 3: that that ship was weak to me. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The prom queen motive was weak to me.

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Speaker 6: But I also still don't need the back, the extra

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Speaker 6: I can I can feel in that. I can feel

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Speaker 3: In the other part. Maybe maybe maybe that's not Maybe

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Speaker 1: Just gotta reach one minute.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: So after concocting a plan to run for prom queen

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Speaker 3: Why are you laughing? We're gonna start with you, spikes

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Speaker 3: that you laughing about? You? Oh the radio?

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Speaker 3: I missed that point?

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: Does y'all anything different from that?

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Speaker 1: That's that's yeah.

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Speaker 2: They so they go to pick up her dad from

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Speaker 3: What did you think about what happens there? Ken with

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Speaker 5: This was very like, it felt very over the top

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Speaker 1: It seemed like we're just gonna make it. I guess

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Speaker 5: That he's he's being you know, discriminated upun or looked

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Speaker 2: Damn, okay, did you need something smarter?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 6: I mean I absolutely think that they probably act like

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Speaker 5: Was her whole setup was weird, like she had all

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Speaker 6: I like that set up because as soon as he

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Speaker 6: At that point, you wanted to be racist so bad,

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Speaker 1: Like that, you ready to fucking fire them and.

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Speaker 3: Just tear him a new one. Yep, you're a gread

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Speaker 3: that spike. You don't care. No, I agree with the Asians.

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Speaker 3: I just never see as cleaning man.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what That's what you said.

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Speaker 5: It was like weird, like we're just gonna give him

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Speaker 1: Well, and what year was it that was? So that

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Speaker 5: It was We're in a modern world with something that

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Speaker 2: What wait, what would be from the fortes an Asian

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Speaker 1: Yeah or whatever?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I disagree with I think it makes sense, especially

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Speaker 3: But he's an idealist.

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Speaker 2: to the very end with his monologue. But I think

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00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: him coming to the United States and becoming a cleaning person,

447
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

448
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 3: I didn't have any problem with that.

449
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: And as far as I've never seen an Asian cleaning person,

450
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think I haven't seen many cleaning people period.

451
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: You know, my family's as bougie as you, Spike, so

452
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: you never had clean the cleaning people in my house

453
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 2: with me, So.

454
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: I do got I guess again we're with.

455
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 5: Some with Spike, not that they don't exist, it's that,

456
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 5: you know, I've just always known them to be black people, or.

457
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: The Mexican people or that too.

458
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 5: So if this is a thing, then getting insight into

459
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 5: that being the thing, I guess.

460
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: It could be interesting.

461
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: Now that's wrong with Rod.

462
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 2: I don't think I needed insight into our Asian cleaning

463
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: people a thing. I assume any migrant class would be.

464
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: That's the type of jobs that they could probably.

465
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: Be a usually, But I think i'm speaking to well,

466
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: I'm thinking in stereotypes. Usually Asians are more affluent, even

467
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: if they smart, would be the word that I'm smarter.

468
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: Just because he's a cliper, he's not smart.

469
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.

470
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure he does, but I don't want to step

471
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: on the point that you're gonna make later. But he'd

472
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 4: been here ten years and didn't bother to learn the

473
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 4: language to do anything like you usually.

474
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that.

475
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 6: Wow, I'm only saying that because Asians take that stuff seriously?

476
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: What do you mean agents usually take they have, like you.

477
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: Tech jobs and engineering jobs and things of that nature,

478
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 4: that that stereotype.

479
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: God, Spike, are you what are you doing?

480
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: What are you doing? I was just saying black people

481
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: can play basketball? How Mike, they can't play? To me,

482
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: why you can't play basketball?

483
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Mike?

484
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: Why are you so slow? How come you can't run fast? Mind?

485
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: But you should have been able to play basketball though.

486
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: There's no reason you shouldn't be a play right you're

487
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: black as Jesus Christ.

488
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying it's just they aim higher than that.

489
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: I'll say, you can't. I can't say that.

490
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: You're being so racist right now, even know you are

491
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: being raed.

492
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: I do know what you say.

493
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: You like, I'm not in this by myself. I'm taking

494
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: you with me right here.

495
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: I didn't say that.

496
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: I just like I knew what you meant when you

497
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: were saying what you say. I just I just on

498
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: what you just said.

499
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: My team comment and ship compared to what just went out.

500
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: You might say, Look, they're smart. They're all smart, every

501
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 2: single one. They all got tech jobs, every single one

502
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: of the end. They are higher than cleaning people. I mean, King,

503
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: King who I did.

504
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 3: Not trying to get people on the You're trying to

505
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: get people on the t that's my thought.

506
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: He was.

507
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: I was like, come on, I was not. I oh,

508
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm not. I don't think we should

509
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: review this movie that I'm thinking about it.

510
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: I haven't said anything that.

511
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: Was fine Jesus Christ.

512
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Right now. I just thought it was weird.

513
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: I never thought it was weird because I understand why

514
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: a person moving to this country, especially when I have

515
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: the understanding that this whole facade of opportunity and it's

516
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: all bullshit.

517
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: There's not this wealth of opportunity in the United States.

518
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: So someone moving here, especially if you don't oh right,

519
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 2: especially if someone doesn't know the language that well, that's

520
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: probably a fairly easy job for them to get because

521
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people will assume that they're not very smart,

522
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: they're not you know, and they'll think they're not gonna

523
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: steal you know. It's just yeah, I think there's a

524
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: wealth of understanding of why a migrant would become a

525
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: cleaning person. I thought this scene was cool because, like

526
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: the woman came off as a very typical standard liberal

527
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: performative liberal the whole like I made you some tea,

528
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: you know, almost like you people like tea, you know.

529
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: And then when she says that shit about oh my god,

530
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: you're so beautiful, do you know that? It just comes

531
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: off as so condescending and it's triggering because again, this

532
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 2: is an Asian story, so I don't want to, you know,

533
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: step on the Asian part of this story. But man,

534
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: as a black person, I've seen that same ship from

535
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: white folks, especially to little black girls.

536
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: That's what was saying earlier.

537
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 5: He said that black women know, they know they've seen

538
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 5: beautiful black women.

539
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: He said. I guess he was trying to say he

540
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: just don't know that.

541
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: What she did.

542
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: Moving on, I've seen white women look at young black

543
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 2: girls and be like.

544
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: You know you're pretty, You're just so yeah, your hair

545
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 3: is so Yeah. That part was very very relatable.

546
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: Did she say something to her hair too?

547
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

548
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 4: That.

549
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that part, did you know?

550
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: I've seen that before.

551
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,600
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561
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Speaker 8: y'all take anything from the dreams you had about winning prom?

562
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: And we're gonna be allies when the shit over?

563
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: We should be allies now, Well, we're not gonna be

564
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: to meet Spike, that's for sure.

565
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: Like, why are you working? Why don't you have a

566
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: tech job? Are you one of the are you one

567
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: of the few dumb ones at least at least?

568
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: No wonder over here? You got?

569
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: All right, y'all? Come on, yeah, y'all going too far now?

570
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: I apologize for these two guys.

571
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: The dream, the dream? Yeah, yeah, what happened?

572
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: She they she wins prom and she gets up to

573
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: the stage and when she looks at herself in the mirror,

574
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: she has and she's holding cleaning supplies. Mm hmm, okay,

575
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: well I thought that seems cool. Guess not all right,

576
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: So still obsessed with becoming prom queen, she walks down

577
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: the hall showing all the previous prom queens, who were

578
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: all white and blonde. She then decides to dye her

579
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: hair blonde, and she also blows off plants with her

580
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: mom to go to the nail salon with Olivia and

581
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: her friends. I'm afraid to ask Spike anything some starting

582
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: on this side of the room, Rod, what did you

583
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: think about what goes down at the nail salon?

584
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: Oh?

585
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was so fucked up. They were trying to

586
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: get a discount. But I like that the owner stood

587
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 6: on business though until she didn't.

588
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Right, we don't know because she said.

589
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true.

590
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 6: But but now, yeah, that that was a crazy scene

591
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 6: to watch and just kind of seeing the owner's face

592
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: like I know what you're doing, Like you know, I

593
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 6: ain't going for it. But yeah, it was kind of

594
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 6: funked up that they were just using her to to

595
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 6: try to get a discount on on their nails and whatnot.

596
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: So no, that was that scene.

597
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 5: And to assimilate, to fit in, to be part of

598
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: the so called majority, she was willing to be used,

599
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: which is a normal thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, willing to

600
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 5: circumvent her culture, which I like that. Like, you know,

601
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: the person that owned the place was like, this is

602
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 5: my this is my shop. This is what we do.

603
00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 5: These we reward ourselves, you know, and not others. You know,

604
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: this is how, you know, we can keep our sense

605
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: of community, our sense of culture, et cetera, et cetera.

606
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: And she was really trying to get her to kind

607
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: of stay embedded in that, and you know, to no

608
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 5: of l you know, I'm assuming that she gave her

609
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: the discount to maybe try to help her out, unless

610
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: she put the foot of the bill, for which I

611
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: doubt she doubted paying, you know, that extra twenty percent. Yeah,

612
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 5: so I doubt that that would happen because it didn't

613
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: seem like they had a lot of money anyway. So

614
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 5: but nah, this this was a dope scene seeing her

615
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 5: push for that and just kind of sad seeing them

616
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 5: kind of use her in that way, and you know, and.

617
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Speaker 1: Didn't really even really care about her at all. It

618
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: was fucked up.

619
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same thing.

620
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: I didn't really get the kind of slight that Olivia

621
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: said to Joan at the end of the conversation. She

622
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: was like, I can see your roots, but the friend

623
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: next to her had black roots, So like, whoa, what

624
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: are we talking about?

625
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: I think, oh, yeah, I don't either, because she wasn't

626
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: white man never.

627
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: Mind, Yeah, she wasn't white yet she had just dyed

628
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: her hair anyway, that was weird.

629
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 6: That was kind of weird because even when she did

630
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 6: dye her hair, it still had black like streaks in it,

631
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 6: so it never was just like purely blond.

632
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was a little odd.

633
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: Or maybe it was like, no matter what you do,

634
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: you won't be one of us, because I could still

635
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: see the roots.

636
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, maybe that was it.

637
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, maybe it was like, I don't know, layer,

638
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: like I could still see your roots, and maybe a

639
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: double meeting.

640
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: Maybe the messaging part the message part.

641
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Sure, i'll buy, But in relation to the movie, it

642
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: didn't really make a lot of sense because it was

643
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: just like, the girl literally standing right next to you

644
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: has dark roots. So if you're just saying I can

645
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: see it looked like that's.

646
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Yeah, it wasn't like blond.

647
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: Well yeah she had, yeah her hair, she had layers,

648
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter.

649
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's she being Jon has been getting these

650
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: messages from the company that does the white face filter.

651
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: They're called Ethnos.

652
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Spike, I'll just throw this to you and hope you

653
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: don't say anything crazy. What did you think about her

654
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: visit to the facility.

655
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: The first time she went to go check it out? Yeah, yeah,

656
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: I knew she was going. Like I said, this movie

657
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: was a lot of predict predictable, so I knew she

658
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 4: was gonna do it, even though she didn't do at

659
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: that time.

660
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, did.

661
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: Y'all think of anything interesting about her first visit to

662
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: the facility?

663
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was, Yeah, it was.

664
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 6: It was interesting that you have to go through this.

665
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 6: I guess like looked like it was a closed down shop.

666
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 6: So it's almost like a speakeasy type of place where

667
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: just very exclusive, if you know, you know, type of thing.

668
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 6: So it just looked sketchy. Definitely looked sketchy. I did

669
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 6: not know that they the people that were working there

670
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 6: were probably of other ethnicities or whatever, so I didn't

671
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 6: know that until until they said it.

672
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys mentioned the substance.

673
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 5: The substance kind of did a very similar sort of

674
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: set up when it comes to the facility.

675
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: This is where it starts to.

676
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 5: Get a little weird for for me, because and correct

677
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: me if I'm wrong. I'm trying to remember, but it

678
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 5: seemed like it shifted to just the black people getting

679
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: this procedure more than others. Like the guy the doctor

680
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 5: was black, wasn't either, the secretary was black.

681
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: The secretary was black, the doctor was he was a

682
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: white dude, South Asian.

683
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I don't think there were actually a lot

684
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: of examples.

685
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: Balance.

686
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was balanced, all right, Yeah, okay,

687
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 5: maybe maybe my own boys looking at it like, well,

688
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 5: I gotta be now shifting like you're trying to use

689
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: us to tell this story.

690
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: But okay, cool suit correction.

691
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 3: Well, nobody called this out.

692
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: My one of my issues was in this scene, especially

693
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: when I think back on it. Uh, I don't think

694
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: they did a great job of really conveying what you

695
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: get by becoming white. Uh, because the white specimens in

696
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: this room they were not top specimens.

697
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: Well, it was more so about privilege.

698
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: See was that it for Joan? No, for Joan, they

699
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: were trying to make it seem like it was about beauty, not.

700
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: Privilege, See, I thought, and privilege.

701
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: See, they did not do a good job to me

702
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: with conveying the message of what white privilege even is

703
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: or what you benefit from getting you know, this procedure,

704
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: because they're they're showing the woman in the video and

705
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: she's just like, you know, you have no idea, you

706
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: know that should I get away with by being a

707
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: white woman.

708
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: I thought that was good.

709
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Then they showed the video and this might be where

710
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: you're thinking of the black people. They show the video

711
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: of the doctor and he's changing a black man into

712
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: a white man. The black man seemed to be an average,

713
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: decent looking black man and they changed him to this busted.

714
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: Ass old white dude.

715
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: So if the point they're making is even if you

716
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 2: are an attractive person of color, you're still better off

717
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: white no matter what you look like. If that's the

718
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: point they're trying to make, I'm cool with it. I

719
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: just feel like they needed to push it a bit

720
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: more because it wasn't clear.

721
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't this, Yes, I think that was it.

722
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 5: I think it was the acceptance. It's like you walk

723
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 5: through and you see just the wall of whites, you

724
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 5: know that are prom queens, and.

725
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: But they're all pretty whites.

726
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, But also in there they were also trying to

727
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 5: convey like the other messaging about just privilege and assets

728
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: and acceptability. Know, this super good looking or whatever he

729
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 5: is black guy becomes this average looking white man and

730
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: that's susceptible and you will get all these sort of

731
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 5: privileges as as the other girl said, So I think

732
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 5: maybe in this part of the movie they were using

733
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: this to kind of convey that part of it in

734
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 5: addition to her trying to be prom queen and maybe

735
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: her going to the salon of being acceptive. Well, no,

736
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: because she wanted their endorsement for prom Queen, which is

737
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: why she wanted to get in with them.

738
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, here's why that does not work. Joan

739
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 2: was not going there to become white to just be accepted.

740
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: She was going there because she wanted to become prom queen.

741
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: To be prom queen, she saw it as you need

742
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: to be like a top looking white So they weren't.

743
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 2: They never even gave her the indication that like, yeah,

744
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: you'll be a really attractive white woman. You're just gonna

745
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: be You're just gonna be a white person. So I

746
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: feel like this movie could have worked if you remove

747
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: the whole prom queen shit and just make it that

748
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: Joan is not feeling accepted. So even if I become

749
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: a less attractive white woman, my life is still gonna

750
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: be better off.

751
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: But it doesn't.

752
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: Vibe with the whole prom queen thing.

753
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: To me.

754
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: It was just like the messaging is all over the

755
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: place with this movie. It's like they could not figure

756
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: out what angle we wanted to go with with get Out.

757
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 3: The angle was so clear with these white people.

758
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: They were like, look, it doesn't matter what you look like,

759
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: I just want to be in this body.

760
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

761
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: They took a very elementary approach to it, yes, using

762
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 5: the prom queen as the motive.

763
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: And then they abandoned the motive when they get to

764
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: this facility. It's like, wait a minute, and she's only

765
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: going there because she doesn't feel accepted. Fine, but she

766
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: wants to be a beautiful white woman. Just being a

767
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: basic ass white woman's not gonna get you, prom queen.

768
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 5: And or maybe they were trying to use that to

769
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 5: also illustrate or sell other reasons why or reasons why

770
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: other people have adopted that surgery so or whatever the

771
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 5: process is in addition to her having a very simple

772
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: reason for it, you know, so, and that's why they're successful.

773
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: So you just want to be prom queen and beautiful, right,

774
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: these other people wanted these other things that would allow

775
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 5: them to be accepted in society.

776
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: That's outside of that.

777
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 3: That makes sense.

778
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the doctor never had a conversation with her,

779
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: being like, look, you're going to be a beautiful white woman.

780
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: Which again we will get to that part.

781
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: So she has to take over the cleaning job for

782
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: her dad since he's hurt his hand. He cut his hand,

783
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: he broke a vase or something.

784
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: She finds out the owner of the house is going

785
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: out of town.

786
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: Then, after getting embarrassed by some students, they drew dicks

787
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: on her little prom queen flyers tricks her mom and

788
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: the signing the permission slip to get the full race swap.

789
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: What did y'all think of that part?

790
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: The procedure part, including that good to be Good to

791
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: be White song?

792
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: That was that a bop spike good to be White song?

793
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: You remember?

794
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, that ship was so sound like.

795
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: The police are our friends. Man, that was a source

796
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: of safety. That was funny to me.

797
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

798
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, she got designed that the permission sip signed by

799
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: her mom because her mom really didn't.

800
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: Know what was going on.

801
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: She told her it was a field trip. Yeah, they

802
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: was going to a long permissionship.

803
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 4: I ain't take anything from it in the procedure to

804
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: switch over anything like that.

805
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 5: So so this was the girls drove by and saw

806
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: her with the cleaning stuff, right, yeah, and then she

807
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: went to the school in there with the picture of

808
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: the Dix and stuff. I thought they were gonna kind

809
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 5: of make of seeing her with the cleaning supply. So

810
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: that kind of threw me off that it was just

811
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 5: they were just making doing that yeah sort of thing.

812
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 5: So I was like, Okay, that's not where it didn't

813
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 5: go where I thought it was gonna go.

814
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: And that was enough to make you wanna.

815
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 5: Okay again, I think the good to be white, we're

816
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 5: just like you're selling it. That is a thing that's said.

817
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: It is a phrase that's said, So we're just gonna

818
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: kind of take that and add it into this sort

819
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: of thing, and maybe you're letting white people know that

820
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: that's the thing.

821
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wish you would have talked to them,

822
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: you know.

823
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: But but they're really hammering down and about this whole

824
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: idea of whiteness and acceptability and the privileges and everything

825
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 5: that comes with white, white, white white, white, white is

826
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: great to be white, to the point where we got

827
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 5: a song about it. Now, if that ship turns turns

828
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: into a fucking damn nag of theme song, bro TikTok

829
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

830
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: That s would be fucking nuts. That's what they're gonna

831
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: take that ship roight. No.

832
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the first time I had to suspend

833
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 6: leaf with the parent signature things.

834
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm like, that's not you.

835
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Know what I thought that. I thought she probably just

836
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: couldn't read English.

837
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I took it. She couldn't.

838
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: She could, they could both speak basic English, but one

839
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: they had no reason to trust their daughter, and two

840
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: that might have been a lot of English for her

841
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: to read. So she's probably just like and they're watching

842
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 2: a movie or doing something.

843
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know how they tried to set it up

844
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 6: as that she just wasn't like paying attention. But I

845
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: just it just like as a parent that signs permission slips,

846
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

847
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: But but no, no, But so I do understand because

848
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: my wife reads everything. However, we're probably different, you know,

849
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: because there have been times I could, hey, Mom, I

850
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: need this signa she probably my mom wouldn't read it.

851
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, and my mom.

852
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: Was a teacher, so she knew I wasn't gonna lie

853
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: to her.

854
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: Though, right, so I could get why she would just

855
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: go ahead and just sign it.

856
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: And her daughter had never been in I get what

857
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: you're saying, though, but her daughter had never been in trouble.

858
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: They had no reason not to believe her. And she says, hey,

859
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: I want to go on a field trip where you

860
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: sign this permission slip, and that was.

861
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: Really the starting end of it.

862
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: I didn't really I get why you'd have a problem

863
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: with that because of the father you are. But me,

864
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: I was just saying, all right, I had more of

865
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: an issue And this is nothing against McKenna Grace. I

866
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: have more of an issue with that's what they gave you.

867
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: Like if I'm going to a facility and I want

868
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: to be prom queen, I want to be this beautiful

869
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: prom queen. And I'm not trying to be mean. I

870
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: think McKenna Grace is a is a pretty little white girl.

871
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: But it was like, that's it.

872
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 5: I think that works, So I think that I think

873
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: that is enough. I don't think she had to be

874
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 5: beauty queen or Amazona or whatever. You want to where

875
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 5: you want to say. I think I think it was

876
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 5: just enough. You're damn now, you got me saying about

877
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: to say something sounds fucked up.

878
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: You've been saying that sounds fucked up this whole I'm

879
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna get you to say something that sounds average average.

880
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't think. I don't think it

881
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: needs to be over like.

882
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it got to be overly. But she, to me,

883
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: she's just like a basic ass white jack. But I

884
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 3: think that was the point.

885
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: I think that.

886
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: Might have been the point. But because she still needed

887
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 6: her endorsement.

888
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Sure.

889
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 6: The other suspended belief was like being able to do

890
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 6: that procedure without a parent present.

891
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, yeah, that not yeah, because you're being a

892
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: little picky.

893
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Now.

894
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: You can't even get tattoos without There's no procedure in

895
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: the world that can turn you into a white person.

896
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: So I know, I mean that that was the obvious.

897
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 6: I mean, why isn't there a parent in the room?

898
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 6: I mean, that's the obvious one. I'm just saying the

899
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 6: other stuff that I was listening.

900
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: That is a good point, right, But that is also

901
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: a good point.

902
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so, now if you want to

903
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: really get into suspending this belief, which I this is

904
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 2: where I thought you were going.

905
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: Where did she get the money for this? Oh?

906
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: He said, he.

907
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 3: Said she got a discount or something. Na, the hair

908
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: was free. That's it.

909
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: I thought in the in the DMS, you should one

910
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: time offer whatever it may be, take advantage of this.

911
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Now, maybe she did get a discount, but still it didn't.

912
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: The movie never came off like she was loaded. Because

913
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: her parents were extremely working class, this procedure had to

914
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: be a grip. So I was just like, all right,

915
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: what's happening here? Is this a dream sequence? Because how

916
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: was she even getting this procedure done?

917
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

918
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: Well, the procedure time because again with the substance, we

919
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: had fucking Margaret quality crawling out.

920
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: Of Demi Moore's back.

921
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, you know, but this ship,

922
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: it was just like y'all didn't think a lot of

923
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: this movie through. It seemed like y'all just threw some

924
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: shit together.

925
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: It seems like it really on a budget.

926
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and they wasted most of the budget on

927
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: the actor.

928
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

929
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, So after she shows up at.

930
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: Home as a white woman, her parents stormed down the

931
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: Ethnes to get a reversal, but the doctor says it's permanent,

932
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: and outside, Mom, Dad and Joan have a very hard discussion.

933
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: Did y'all take anything interesting from that discussion? Y'all remember it?

934
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 5: It was just when he told her about you know,

935
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 5: your grandmother and I can see your grandmother and your

936
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: eyes and stuff like that.

937
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was killed that ship.

938
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think all of this was good.

939
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 6: I think all of this was a good one because

940
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 6: I was like, how the fuck they're gonna do this?

941
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 6: Like she's about to come home as a whole, white,

942
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: different person, and I'm like, how are they going to

943
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 6: execute this? And I feel like they did this well

944
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 6: because they did not believe, like, you're not my fucking daughter.

945
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 6: It took them, It took her everything to try to

946
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 6: convince them, Like she had to single songs.

947
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: He still was like, He's like.

948
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 5: Nah, I don't know what Like if my kid, you

949
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 5: take your ass right back out of here, that's gonna happen.

950
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell you can.

951
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: I could see the hurt and feel the hurt that

952
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 5: they had that she just it was legally erased everything

953
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 5: that they were.

954
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want to talk to her no more.

955
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: No, and basically went on about their lives too.

956
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

957
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: I like the scene a lot. But the mom says,

958
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 2: you know, being Chinese is what made and she says, no,

959
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: being Chinese is what made me weak. It's like, god, damn,

960
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: this is a lot butter Again, I didn't really get

961
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: a lot of that.

962
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 6: I think the actor did well to the white girl

963
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 6: because he made it seem like what's her name, but grace.

964
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: I think she killed scream.

965
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 6: I think I think I think credit needs to go

966
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 6: to her as well, because I mean, I really felt

967
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 6: like she was the other girl.

968
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 3: In this moment.

969
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 6: She's right, oh noelt I felt she did a really

970
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 6: good job here.

971
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like when the dad says, I used

972
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: to look in your face and see your grandma's eyes,

973
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: and now I don't recognize my daughter anymore.

974
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: Man.

975
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: This, this, this whole scene right here was fucking class.

976
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: Is this When she snapped on him?

977
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: When who snapped on whom? And she told him no, no, no,

978
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: that that happens. Oh my god, my mom, Hey, can

979
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: I eat a sweet potatoes?

980
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: Crazy? Anyway? No, that's later.

981
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: So to further fit in, she decides to throw a

982
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: party at the house that her father cleans at unless

983
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: she took something interesting from that conversation between her and

984
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: Olivia in that room, which I didn't know. We can

985
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: talk about the big scene here because Brenda shows up

986
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: and confirms that White Joe is actually Joan after the

987
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: race swap, and they share a touching moment where we

988
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: think that they're gonna reconcile and they're gonna stay best friends.

989
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: But then a turn happens when Olivia is telling Brenda

990
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: and her friends made up of other POC, she tells

991
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: them that.

992
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: They have to leave go. What did you think of that?

993
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: Seeing Spike that was dirty? I didn't think that.

994
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 4: What I know the girl other girl said she had

995
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 4: to show commitment or show that she was loyal to her,

996
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 4: But I ain't think I thought she was gonna chicken

997
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: out and not make her friend leave. I thought that

998
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 4: she had built a deeper barn with her somebody. They

999
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 4: had been friends for a while, not just high school,

1000
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: but like throughout school. So I thought that she had

1001
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: a deeper barn with her. So I was surprised. In

1002
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: a predictable movie, that was a surprising point right there.

1003
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: I think it was cool showing other races, showing them

1004
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: all grouped together like ver excluded from like white people.

1005
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 5: You know, again, very messaging in your face, you know,

1006
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: showing that you know, once you was, once you assimilate

1007
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 5: and adopt, you have to turn your back on your

1008
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 5: own community and you leave them behind, including friendships as well.

1009
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1010
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 5: I thought that was was it was good, but I

1011
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 5: knew she was going to say no because she hadn't

1012
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 5: accomplished a mission, and her mission was to become prom

1013
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 5: queen and that came at the expense of friendships and

1014
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: and bonds and loyalty that she has she has built

1015
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 5: over the years in pursuit of whiteness and uh, and

1016
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: she was willing to sacrifice whatever at the altered to

1017
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 5: accomplish that.

1018
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: So it's just were they the only Asian people in

1019
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: that community? Were people there?

1020
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: There were some black people there, there were there were

1021
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 2: it was a nice mix, but it was mostly people

1022
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: of color.

1023
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, showing certain that's certain allyship. Yeah.

1024
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: So I did find that to be kind of interesting.

1025
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: Like you, Spike, I was like, is she gonna do it?

1026
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: Is she going to do it?

1027
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: And when she was like, y'all gotta leave, I was.

1028
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: Like, Wow, Now I'm surprised. Old girls didn't write her

1029
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: out because.

1030
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 6: I would have told that she switched by Yeah, mm hmm.

1031
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: They thought she was just a new girl.

1032
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1033
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 3: Remember they when she came to school, they introduced her.

1034
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 5: As Joe, and the guy immediately started talking to her.

1035
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 5: You know, so they already show that there's privileges associated

1036
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 5: with it.

1037
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that back up. So that was

1038
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: again they were making it seem like because this was

1039
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: like the really good looking guy at the school, and

1040
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: basic Joe walks up and he's like, oh cool, Yeah,

1041
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: let's date. It's like, wait, what y'all not y'all not dah. Anyway,

1042
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: after it's announced that she's up for prom queen, she

1043
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: has an awkward conversation with Brenda. Do you remember this conversation?

1044
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: This is by the lockos. What do you think anything

1045
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: of this?

1046
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 4: Not any more than her kicking out of the party,

1047
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 4: just like she was on the same thing, right, Damn?

1048
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: Did y'all take anything from this? I don't remember your

1049
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: first moment?

1050
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: Shit.

1051
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: I thought this was an incredible scene. This is where

1052
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Brenda tells her like, look, you changed the entire way

1053
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: you looked.

1054
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: Because you thought you were ugly.

1055
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: What does that how do you think that makes me Feelah?

1056
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: I thought she killed. This scene was before this party.

1057
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: No, it was after the party, because that's why she's

1058
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: chowing up to her, being like can we talk?

1059
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: Can we talk? Can we talk?

1060
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: That's right? Yeah?

1061
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought this scene was really good.

1062
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Damn it is. Yeah, it is an ele thing to say.

1063
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: And I watched an interview with the actress that plays

1064
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Brenda and she said that was She brought that to

1065
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: the director that was not originally in the script. She

1066
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: was like, well, look, if she's changing herself to be

1067
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: white me as another person of color, that's obviously going

1068
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: to affect me.

1069
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: So what if I said this?

1070
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: And the director was like, yes, that's awesome. So yeah,

1071
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: I thought that scene was really good. So you about

1072
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: to say something? Oh, Joanne's face starts drooping and they

1073
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: give her some tape and some cream, which.

1074
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: You know, this part was fine.

1075
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: But that night, her mom and dad tell her that

1076
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: her dad's been fired due to the party.

1077
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: But while they're.

1078
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: Interrogating her about if she had the party, Joanne or Joan,

1079
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 2: blurts out something extremely rude and hurtful to her father.

1080
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: She says, take this as a blessing. Maybe now you

1081
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: can learn English and get.

1082
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: A real job. I said, damn out loud with me too,

1083
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 3: me too. I was like, god, damn, oh, oh my god.

1084
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did y'all think of this scene?

1085
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 5: She been holding that one in for a minute, you know,

1086
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 5: and and she's blaming to a certain degree of parents,

1087
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 5: you know, to a certain degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like

1088
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 5: you know, you have to work at this place. You

1089
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 5: never learned English, but also you never fit in, you know,

1090
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 5: with how things are in America. And that hurt his soul,

1091
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 5: it did.

1092
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: That actor killed it.

1093
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: He was crushed.

1094
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1095
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, this could have taught him what English.

1096
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: See, that's the thing that's.

1097
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: When we when we were going to Spike was like, hell,

1098
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: he didn't even bother to learn English.

1099
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to.

1100
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 2: And he makes that very clear, which in another scene

1101
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: that we'll get to in a bit in a few minutes.

1102
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: But I think that it was good that they did

1103
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: not have him be, you know, fluent in English. He

1104
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: was happy with the life that he had. He worked

1105
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: as a janitor and he also cleaned houses. He had

1106
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: a loving family. He didn't need anything else. He just

1107
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: wanted to be in America. But again, I can't get

1108
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: into that before without giving away a couple other things.

1109
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: Only a few more scenes to this anyway. But while

1110
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: that prom which are you talking about this?

1111
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, her face starts drooping again, Olivia comes in the bathroom.

1112
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: While helping her, she reveals that she also went through

1113
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: the program. I'm not gonna front. This got me.

1114
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, ship, I said, you knew it.

1115
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: I said she wanted them, she gotta be I said

1116
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: she gotta be one. I didn't call it.

1117
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Damn.

1118
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: She played the white girl so too. Yeah, it was

1119
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: like I didn't.

1120
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm with Mike.

1121
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: I still didn't.

1122
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

1123
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: That was a shackra for me when I.

1124
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: Didn't think she was all the way white anyway. I

1125
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 2: thought she was like Spanish or some ship. It was

1126
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: a good twist though.

1127
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: It did good.

1128
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: It did well for the movie. It made it a

1129
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: little bit more interesting. I do it.

1130
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 5: It made sense when you start to play back some

1131
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 5: of the things she said, especially when she was.

1132
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: At the party, in the party in the rooms, like

1133
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 3: I know your secret.

1134
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. I was like, oh damn, that's what that meant. Yeah,

1135
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm not. It was good though. That was that was

1136
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: a good reveal. Unfortunately it didn't work out in the

1137
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: way that she said it would.

1138
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 5: Uh there was, but yeah it all the body rejects

1139
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 5: it in the first.

1140
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, your face fights. No, that was good. They got

1141
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: me too.

1142
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 6: That what's fucked up about that is that at the party,

1143
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 6: like you knew her secret, that you still had her

1144
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 6: do that ship with her kicking out her friends.

1145
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 5: Are you one of us now still one of them?

1146
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: Are you holding on to you know, to your past?

1147
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1148
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 2: So Jonahs elected prom queen, but while on stage accepting

1149
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 2: the award, her face melts and all her classmates freak out,

1150
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: and then she passes out.

1151
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: She wakes up at Olivia's.

1152
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: Place, where she finds out that her and her father

1153
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 2: are actually Cuban but they changed.

1154
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: Did y'all take anything.

1155
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: From this scene because there was quite a few things

1156
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: where I was like, this is this is actually kind

1157
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: of fucked up.

1158
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: I didn't I think I missed that was her dad.

1159
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: I thought they should They left their families. All did

1160
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: unseasoned food. How you have an all white plate?

1161
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: They had undercooked chicken.

1162
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the boiled chicken coliflour and mashed potatoes.

1163
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: Everything in the house was white.

1164
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy.

1165
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: So his biggest thing to look out the drinking milk.

1166
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 4: And then some of the conversation that they were having,

1167
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 4: like like, we don't talk about race.

1168
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: Did he say that we don't even say that word here?

1169
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm thinking about like how to a certain degree society. Well,

1170
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 5: it's like you're saying, we don't talk about race, all

1171
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: this other things, but you want the standard to be white,

1172
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 5: you know, because that is in this world America, in

1173
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 5: the world period, the acceptable version, the acceptable race, and

1174
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 5: you want every thing to be that, which is why

1175
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 5: there's this fear of minority births and all this other

1176
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 5: stuff that's happening even right now, the whole white supremacy.

1177
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 5: Then preserving whiteness, you know, ship that we're seeing right now.

1178
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 5: So you're trying to say that we're doing this for

1179
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 5: the betterment of man kind of whatever the speech was,

1180
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 5: and he's getting rid of the idea of the construct

1181
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 5: the race, and we're just gonna be just one big

1182
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 5: whole society. But what is it is whiteness. So yeah,

1183
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 5: and everything is going to be white. So I think

1184
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 5: the interesting thing is you take like what they call

1185
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: them the model, the model minority or something like that

1186
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 5: model minority like the Asians and how they're perceived in America.

1187
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: The Yeah, and.

1188
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 5: So I thought that's why this movie was interesting seeing

1189
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 5: them know this story when when they when they were

1190
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: first here, they were looked upon and shun and and

1191
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 5: hate it. But later on adapted because they were contributing positively,

1192
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: you know, to America. But the elimination of race, trying

1193
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 5: to say we're gonna eliminate race and it's just gonna

1194
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 5: be white.

1195
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: Was it was very interesting?

1196
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I thought some of the things that

1197
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: the dad was saying, like when he says, eventually people

1198
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: who don't share the same ideology fade away.

1199
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: So I thought that was interesting.

1200
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: This this kind of nazi ish uh commentary on assimilation.

1201
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.

1202
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, the unseasoned, half cooked chicken and the drinking

1203
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: of just plain milk, I was like, this is disgusting, disgusting.

1204
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: Collie flower and ships, I'm just saying it was just.

1205
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: It does not expect you had a mash cauliflower.

1206
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just tight.

1207
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: It's just good. All right, they get some ship work,

1208
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: they get some ship white.

1209
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 5: Right, I did say, got me bro Jesus Christ.

1210
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: Cauliflower.

1211
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: Rice is just.

1212
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 2: Funks off with that ship. That's definitely some white folks

1213
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: made that ship up.

1214
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1215
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: So she leaves.

1216
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: She returns home where she reconciles with her family, face off,

1217
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: fucked up.

1218
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: This part I think.

1219
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: Was very strong. The monologue from her father, whoever wants

1220
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: to go can jump in. What did y'all think of

1221
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 2: this part? All right, Spike, what did you think of

1222
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: this part? I didn't want to go far because you

1223
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: weren't paying attention, so I figured to get you out, Puck.

1224
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was fine.

1225
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't as moved by it, but I do think

1226
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 4: that it showed great parenting and accepting their daughter. U oh,

1227
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 4: you're a great parent, and for what he had to say,

1228
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 4: and accepting her back after she had done that all

1229
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 4: that stuff.

1230
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: So I liked it.

1231
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,479
Speaker 6: You know, this is the part I was talking about

1232
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 6: earlier with her and saying like why. This is where

1233
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: she's explained why you know you brought me to this country?

1234
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: What are you?

1235
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 3: Almost like kind of like what do you expect?

1236
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 6: I can't remember that came later, but this is where

1237
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 6: they kind of apologized for it.

1238
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: Right now.

1239
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: The mom says, we came here and we were already

1240
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: Asian or Chinese or whatever. Yeah, And she almost seemed

1241
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: like she was saying that she didn't really think through

1242
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: how she would feel, how it would feel growing up here.

1243
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's what I was saying, like when I

1244
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 6: didn't need the context because of this part, So I

1245
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 6: assume that you know, she's had this whole life of

1246
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 6: I mean cause even you look at the wall, like

1247
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 6: it's all white, white people, like all these white artists

1248
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 6: and things like that. So it's kind of the also

1249
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 6: made me think too, like, as a parent, how why

1250
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: aren't you a little bit more tapped in as to

1251
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 6: like what's going on.

1252
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: With your daughter?

1253
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: You mean, because of all the pictures and stuff on

1254
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: the wall.

1255
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 6: All the pictures she clearly I mean even when she

1256
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 6: dyed her hair, She's like, what.

1257
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: Did you do to your hair?

1258
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: I can see that because you kind of just think

1259
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: teens are being teens.

1260
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: Yes, but this was a string though.

1261
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 2: I didn't have a problem with this part, probably because

1262
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean I grew up that way. You know, My

1263
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: walls were covered in skateboarders and the majority of them

1264
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: were white because back then there weren't that many black skateboarders.

1265
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: I dyed my hair maroon, I dyed my hair green.

1266
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: My mom just looked at it as, oh, he's different,

1267
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 2: he's an artist.

1268
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: It's fine.

1269
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 2: She never at any point was like, well, are you

1270
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: wanting to be white? Because that never entered, you know,

1271
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: the conversation ever with her. That conversation, of course, would

1272
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: happened at high school because they would look at you

1273
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, skateboarding, you wearing those big old

1274
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: baggy pants and whatever, you know, dyeing your hair, wearing

1275
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: these weird shirts.

1276
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: You want to be white? You know I don't, So

1277
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 3: I don't think that. Again.

1278
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: I think that you're probably looking at this from the

1279
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: lens of the type of father you are. But I

1280
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: don't think that this was a weird scene to me,

1281
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: like them just being like, well her, well.

1282
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: That's not true. It is weird. But I could also.

1283
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: See why a migrant family, first gen would not have

1284
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: a big issue with it because they.

1285
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 3: Wanted her to be American.

1286
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: And I don't want to say too much for y'all

1287
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: say everything that y'all want to say about said pretty

1288
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: much what I was saying. Did you have anything to

1289
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: add to this?

1290
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: Ken?

1291
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: You know, you don't think about the potential repercussions of decisions.

1292
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 5: You want to do the best thing that you that's

1293
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 5: for your kids, and for them, it was the land

1294
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 5: of opportunity here in America. To get them over here

1295
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 5: and to grow up in America to benefit from that.

1296
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 5: You know, we don't know what they were running into, what,

1297
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 5: you know, their positions were.

1298
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: All they knew is that.

1299
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 5: America was supposed to be better, yes, and they came

1300
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 5: over here, and to them, they thought that the cultural

1301
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 5: identity of who she is would remain intact a lot

1302
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 5: because of how they maintained their household and stuff like that,

1303
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 5: singing of songs, you know, and stuff like that, speaking

1304
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: the language and stuff. So there was definitely a blind

1305
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 5: spot to what rob was saying, was what is her

1306
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 5: life saying? Just visually, like all the posters of white

1307
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 5: people on the wall and the dying of the hair.

1308
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: The music to muse it.

1309
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 5: But again, you're in America, so it's a lot of

1310
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 5: that ship, you know. So you know, it's just it's

1311
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 5: white artists and she's at a white school, so you

1312
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 5: kind of start to adopt some of those things based

1313
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 5: on her peers. So it kind of made sense for

1314
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 5: her to kind of also ignore that, you know.

1315
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: Peer pressure and stuff like that.

1316
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 5: So but I love the conversation and just really saying

1317
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 5: that you know, to hold on to who you are,

1318
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: your identity and all the other stuff, and really basically

1319
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 5: accepting and taking her back.

1320
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: I think that was.

1321
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 5: Big of them, not me, You're not my daughter, face

1322
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 5: off up to look like damn Martin and ship you

1323
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: got that's funny.

1324
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 3: She actually does look like that's hilarious.

1325
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 1: All right.

1326
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: Well, so nobody touched on the dad's speech, which I'm

1327
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: a little disappointed in all three of you, because I

1328
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: thought the dad's speech was beautiful. I'm I'm really shocked. Well,

1329
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm not shocked to Spike. The Spike didn't give a

1330
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 2: fuck about this movie at all.

1331
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't remember what the dad oh man, So I wrote.

1332
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: I wrote it down in the theater he said, uh,

1333
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: he said being, He said, when I came here, I

1334
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: wanted to be American. But like he said, being American

1335
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: is not the goal. The goal is the opposite.

1336
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: He said.

1337
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: I stopped following other people and I became my own American.

1338
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: And you will find your own American too. That ship

1339
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: in the theater swear to guy gave me goosebumps.

1340
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 3: I was like, that's.

1341
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: Fucking beautiful, ye because to a cowboy had Yeah. But

1342
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: the whole I became my own American, And eventually you'll

1343
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: find your own American. It will happen because you have

1344
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: to understand what what actually not what Maga says American is,

1345
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 2: but what American actually is. It's anything, It's supposed to

1346
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: be anything. Being Americans should have nothing to do with

1347
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: white skin, ethnicity, nothing like that. It should be about

1348
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: having the freedom to do anything you want. This was

1349
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 2: the only time where I was like, damn, the movie

1350
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: is bringing it home, and especially coming from the father.

1351
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: So when you talk about he.

1352
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: Didn't bother to learn the English.

1353
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: He didn't have to because he was trying to find

1354
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: his own version of what an American was.

1355
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: And to him, it was just being here and being free, being.

1356
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: You know, having the ability to do what he wanted,

1357
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: you know, provide for his family and just be here.

1358
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 2: That's what he saw as being an American. It wasn't

1359
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 2: speaking English, it was what'd you saying?

1360
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: Or a software engineer working in.

1361
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yes, it wasn't you know, having higher aspirations.

1362
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: He was a great father, and his daughter loved him.

1363
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: That's why this monologue was so good to me coming

1364
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: from him, because you can see how much his daughter

1365
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: adored him. The daughter didn't really fuck with the mom

1366
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 2: like that, but when the dad was leaving to go

1367
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: to work, by dad so long they had this beautiful relationship.

1368
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: He was so disappointed in her because he wanted her

1369
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: to have her own version of what an American is.

1370
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: But it's not a white person, right, So I love this.

1371
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what he thought.

1372
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 6: She was doing this whole time, trying to find what

1373
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 6: her American is.

1374
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: Yes, but he was fine because she was still speaking

1375
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: Chinese and the house, you know, she was still helping

1376
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: her mom with the food.

1377
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, for whatever, he's not long gone hit that. That

1378
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,439
Speaker 6: part didn't hit me like that, damn. And I guess

1379
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 6: like because I'm not like patriotic. So it's just like

1380
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 6: when he said that, it was kind of cringey. Actually,

1381
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 6: oh wow, when he said that an American Like, I

1382
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 6: don't think I've ever said that, But why would you

1383
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 6: You're not an immigrant, You're an American period, you were

1384
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: born here.

1385
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: I think I think an immigrant saying that because there's

1386
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: been propaganda probably from day one about how great America

1387
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 2: is and how America is the land of the free.

1388
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 2: You get here and you realize that's not really the case.

1389
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: That's why he says being American is not the goal.

1390
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 3: I thought that was beautiful.

1391
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if any mind my friends like that

1392
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 6: would say that, though.

1393
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: You ain't got no friends like that.

1394
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't know what you ask them?

1395
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's a crazy question.

1396
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you're black. I'm sure they've asked you about

1397
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: being a black American. I don't think I got to

1398
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: ask you. I've never heard them say anything.

1399
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: I talked to my African friends like that all the time.

1400
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 3: I mean to do too, But have you ever heard

1401
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 3: them say anything like that?

1402
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 6: Not not Dick, I have other Africans.

1403
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 3: Jesus, really good. This scene really.

1404
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: Hit from me. It did.

1405
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 6: I like, I like some of the dog loog It

1406
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 6: was just that specific thing I did hit.

1407
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 3: Roight.

1408
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: What I am bro Americans? It's like some.

1409
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: Bullshit, that's his point.

1410
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: But why why why I say fine, go ahead, go ahead.

1411
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say real quick.

1412
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 6: And I'm just kind of reiterating, like why say, find

1413
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 6: my my own American.

1414
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Because he's finding his own version of what that means

1415
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: to him. Being American is not the goal. The goal

1416
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: is the opposite. Y'all motherfuckers wasn't paying attention.

1417
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: I thought I was.

1418
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, I thought this was the dopest fucking monologue

1419
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: in the whole movie.

1420
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1421
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 6: I liked what he said before about it, you know,

1422
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 6: when he was disappointed and stuff. I like that, But

1423
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if I remember that you brought it

1424
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 6: up about the Grid and that I thought that was

1425
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 6: really stronge.

1426
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: That was good. Yeah, yeah, I thought that was But

1427
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: I thought this was way better.

1428
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 2: Being American is not the goal, it's the opposite. I

1429
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 2: stopped following other people and became my own Americans.

1430
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 6: It sounded like it was supposed to be a bar.

1431
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 6: It was, and it wasn't patriotic. I'm surprised y'all read

1432
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 6: it that way.

1433
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: I didn't like it.

1434
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 2: It would have been patriotic if he said the opposite,

1435
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: being American is the goal.

1436
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: That's not what he said. He said, it's not the goal.

1437
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: I had to find my own American.

1438
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: He's I stopped following other people and became my own

1439
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: American anyway because the opportunity was still better than where

1440
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: he was.

1441
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 3: It's just like, it's just.

1442
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: Like when you look at when you look at people

1443
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: like Mexican folks, they're just like speaking Spanish and you're.

1444
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 3: Like, why can't you learn English?

1445
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't fucking have to because English is not the

1446
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: the official language of America.

1447
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 3: Give me an example to find your own American.

1448
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: Him, No, that is real life, like when you see

1449
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 2: someone that, like you ever go up to.

1450
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: Like Beutford Highway doesn't mean yeeah.

1451
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 2: Beautford Highway for those listening is an area that is

1452
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 2: very predominantly Asian and Mexican. There are certain places in

1453
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: Beauford Highway.

1454
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 3: You not gonna hear a look at English.

1455
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I Guerican.

1456
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: That is their own American. They have they have found

1457
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 2: their own American. They've become their own American when they

1458
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 2: when they're from somewhere else and they're they're moving here,

1459
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: their idea of what being American is like, he said,

1460
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: cowboy hat, American flag T shirt, I'm proud being an American.

1461
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 3: No, I'm free. But then they realized, well, no, that's

1462
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: some bullshit.

1463
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 2: I can keep all of my own culture and still

1464
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: be here because there's no official ethnicity, language, nothing for America.

1465
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: I don't think we are our own version of American.

1466
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,560
Speaker 6: Don't you think that I was sorry? I would I

1467
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 6: wouldn't say it that way, That's all I'm saying. I

1468
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 6: wouldn't say why not.

1469
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: You're an American and you're not just an African American.

1470
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: You're a different thinking. We don't fucking we don't talk

1471
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: about racist, asshole COVID here resting piss.

1472
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: But don't you look at all of us like that?

1473
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: Because think about it, if if if you took the

1474
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 2: idea of what an American is from MAGA. Right now,

1475
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: none of us are that, None of us are that.

1476
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 3: We have.

1477
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: We have found our own version of what an American is.

1478
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: We're all Americans.

1479
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm an American, but I fucking hate this country, but

1480
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 3: I still live here. Right, You're an.

1481
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: American, but you're positive about you know plenty of shit,

1482
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: but you understand how fuckive American is, but you're still

1483
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: an American. We've all become our own version of what

1484
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: an American.

1485
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 6: And I feel that I just wouldn't say that out loud.

1486
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: Why I gotta ask, he says Corny it's.

1487
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: Just like, no, it's not about it being corny.

1488
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 6: I'm just not patriotic, and it sounds very It sounds

1489
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:34,959
Speaker 6: that way to me because.

1490
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: You're from here.

1491
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: Think about this from the eyes of an immigrant. And

1492
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 2: I know I keep interrupting you, Spike, I'm sorry.

1493
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say.

1494
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 4: It's like the guy to come over here, and let's

1495
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,440
Speaker 4: say he knows landscape and he works as a landscape

1496
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 4: at a company for two three years, save his money

1497
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,879
Speaker 4: of you by a truck, you're doing his own landscaping,

1498
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 4: and then he hires a crew of people that look

1499
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 4: like him, and like Mike said, it's his culture.

1500
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 3: Like that's his version of American.

1501
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 4: Like it don't got to be I came over here,

1502
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 4: learn the language, know the whatever test you gotta pay.

1503
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: It's it's I came over here, I worked my ass off,

1504
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 4: I built something up a company. I employed people that

1505
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 4: look like me. We get to be each other around

1506
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 4: each other, Like that's an American American dream.

1507
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: Yes, but we're quick.

1508
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 6: We got a rebuttal so so sure, like he's found

1509
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 6: his own American, but he's still not accepted that way.

1510
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 4: Though I think it matters, doesn't because we're going that

1511
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: were not accepted.

1512
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 3: We're Americans and we're not so.

1513
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: But that's the point. It doesn't matter what't say it

1514
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: that way, but their acceptance doesn't matter. Once again, being

1515
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: American is not the goal.

1516
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 3: The goal is the opposite.

1517
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm not I'm not caring about what

1518
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 2: the fuck y'all want.

1519
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 3: As long as I got.

1520
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: My household, my family, and my culture is still intact.

1521
01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck. Acceptotic it was, it's the opposite.

1522
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 6: It was the opposite of a patriotic statement. Yeah, it

1523
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,839
Speaker 6: might he had to say American to make her understand

1524
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 6: maybe we've been brainwashing the thing.

1525
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: Anything like that sounds patriotic.

1526
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, to a certain degree, I think

1527
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 5: it's just like, uh, just listening to them talk, there's

1528
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 5: not a lot of countries where that guy.

1529
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: Spike was describing can go to and do that.

1530
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 3: And do that, and that's an American thing.

1531
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of what.

1532
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 4: That's an American thing, like, you know, even if we

1533
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 4: go other places when we're talking about learning language, of

1534
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 4: course I was joking. But if you go other places

1535
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 4: and you don't bother to learn language, they don't they're

1536
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 4: not going to.

1537
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 3: Look at you.

1538
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: You can't build up I think anything reputable somewhere else,

1539
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 4: not speaking the language there.

1540
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: You think you can disagree, Yeah you can't. Yeah, I

1541
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 3: think you can.

1542
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: I think there are places, especially if we're talking about well,

1543
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: obviously they speak English in the UK, but if you

1544
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: were moving to like France or someplace like that, I

1545
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 2: think it would not be super hard to accomplish that buthole. Well,

1546
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing France for example. I'm probably you're You're

1547
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 2: probably right for correcting me. You're probably right, But I

1548
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 2: think there are other places that you could go and

1549
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: build up a business.

1550
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 3: Here, maybe it's a little bit easier.

1551
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: You point.

1552
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 4: I think that goes to your point though, that's what

1553
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 4: American is easier to do here because there is no

1554
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,480
Speaker 4: like monolith of what an American.

1555
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 3: Is supposed to be the.

1556
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: Yes image.

1557
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I think that this scene fucking hit

1558
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: because it was like, man that I love that it's

1559
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: it's to me, it's the exact opposite of patriotic, because

1560
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 2: a patriotic motherfucker would say, well, being an American means

1561
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: you love America most of the time. You're white, you know,

1562
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: you love fucking God and country. That's not these people

1563
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: and my pistol. Oh yes, you love guns, you love God,

1564
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,919
Speaker 2: you love beef, those are your things.

1565
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: These people aren't like that.

1566
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,480
Speaker 2: But they are still Americans, at least in this idealistic

1567
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: world of what America is. They are still Americans.

1568
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 3: But if it only hit from me, that's okay.

1569
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: One last scene, they try one more time to go

1570
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: back to Ethnos and they plead for them to fix Joan,

1571
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: but doctor Singer repeats that it's impossible because the procedure

1572
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: is permanent. This cust to Joan at home, tearing at

1573
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: her face, and the movie ends with her ripping out

1574
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 2: a piece around her eye, revealing her Asian eyes under it.

1575
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: Their place looked like he got the poppety Yeah.

1576
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, everybody don't want to

1577
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: be white now.

1578
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what did y'all think of this final scene?

1579
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: That's the part when she was like, this ship was stupid.

1580
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

1581
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 6: Terrible for now, Yeah, because how's that underneath this whole

1582
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 6: other person?

1583
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: And then why can't they just do wait?

1584
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 2: Oh, so y'all did y'all not catch what the doctor

1585
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: said when he was.

1586
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 6: He was just saying like you're like a seed and

1587
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,760
Speaker 6: it's like peeling back or something like that.

1588
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 3: Oh you're not talking about that part.

1589
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 6: But what he said, what did you say about the seed?

1590
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: Said for a new plant to grow and flourish, the

1591
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: seed has to die.

1592
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 3: Yes, the seed is her culture.

1593
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 2: The seed is her She didn't completely abandon her Asian kid,

1594
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 2: so it was still there. That's why this new plant

1595
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:45,559
Speaker 2: could not grow and flourish. It was falling apart. That's

1596
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: why earlier Olivia says, your face flight to that first,

1597
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: because you're not immediately going to give your culture up.

1598
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: I thought the scene, I didn't love the ending, but

1599
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 2: I think the ending, combined with what he said, made

1600
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: made send no.

1601
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: The ending with it. Yeah, I like what he said

1602
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 3: and that made sense.

1603
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 6: Like like said she said it earlier, like as long

1604
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 6: as you fight yet like I think it as like,

1605
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 6: as long as you're fighting, still fighting for your culture,

1606
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 6: it's not gonna you know, it's gonna it's gonna fall off.

1607
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 6: But the part that I had it aesthetically is what

1608
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 6: I had an issue with, Like how how was that

1609
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 6: underneath this new white girl? Like that's the part that

1610
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 6: I had an issue with. Yeah, I stopped caring like

1611
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 6: the visual like logic. When it came to this movie again,

1612
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 6: I had to suspended leak all the way to the

1613
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 6: last scene. Yeah, like that's yeah, that was just too

1614
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 6: much for me. That's too much for me.

1615
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 3: But I mean it was it was a nice attempt.

1616
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 3: It wasn't terrible a terrible.

1617
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a nice attempt at a at a

1618
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 6: movie they just needed. They just needed a bigger budget.

1619
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 6: I think to show, like the process, a little bit

1620
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 6: of backstory, like y'all said. I think it just needed

1621
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 6: that because get Out that's what get Out thrived. Yes,

1622
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 6: you know, you knew how they were doing these procedurescause

1623
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 6: they were shown and they were telling you how it

1624
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 6: was happening. They give no fucks about how this happens.

1625
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 6: They didn't give no no, they didn't care about like

1626
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 6: they didn't they didn't try to explain that at all.

1627
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: And that's why I had I had a problem with that.

1628
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: See so where you have a problem with that, but

1629
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with needing more backstory. I didn't

1630
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 2: care about seeing the procedure. I didn't care about tell

1631
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: me I see I did they they they kind of

1632
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: showed the little laser thing.

1633
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 3: I just didn't. I didn't care.

1634
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: Because I was already like, well, this is ridiculous. This

1635
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: is a ridiculous fucking concept that you change an entire race.

1636
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna ride with it.

1637
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: So that part I didn't really mind. It could have

1638
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: been cool if you had some money and you showed

1639
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: how this happens, but you already have to suspend this

1640
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: belief because like, you're not doing all this.

1641
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,520
Speaker 3: In an hour or two. Yeah, I would pain free.

1642
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: I see.

1643
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 6: For me, I would have believed it more if like

1644
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 6: they took the Asian actor and put like some sort

1645
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 6: of prosthetic on her to make her white, versus just

1646
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 6: getting a whole nother fucking actor.

1647
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: But see, if you did that, then I think it

1648
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: defeats the purpose of them saying that you're becoming a

1649
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: completely different person. You know, if if it was prosthetics

1650
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: on an Asian actress, we're still gonna look at her

1651
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 2: and say, oh, well, that's fucking Joan from the beginning

1652
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: of the movie, But after seeing McKenna grays, you're just like, Okay, no,

1653
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 2: that's Joe.

1654
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1655
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 5: The whole idea behind it, especially when that whole ethnos

1656
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 5: thing got was going and the lines were crazy. I

1657
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,560
Speaker 5: think I was in the in the movie that I

1658
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 5: was about to test. I was like, this damn movie

1659
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 5: is wow? This they really going there?

1660
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 1: You know?

1661
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: Because but I think they could have gone there and

1662
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: they didn't. I think they could have. They could have

1663
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: fucked the.

1664
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: Idea of turning a person. They could have gone further.

1665
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, I do agree with that, even

1666
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 5: just the idea of just like everything is about being

1667
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 5: white and we're gonna turn people into white and we're

1668
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 5: just gonna talk about how great it is to be

1669
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 5: white on Like, Yo, they are here.

1670
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: Give me more, give me, give me more of a

1671
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 2: reason to understand the motives. What does she benefit from

1672
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: Give me more of that?

1673
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit smarter.

1674
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I needed to be a little bit smarter. That's

1675
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: that's a good way to put it. So Yeah, anyway,

1676
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 2: anybody got any lost words for slanted?

1677
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want more of these?

1678
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 3: Did black there?

1679
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: He did it? I don't know.

1680
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: We've I think they could have done. You're right, they haven't.

1681
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: I was thinking to get out, but that's not that's.

1682
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: Not the same. It's not the same. But I guess

1683
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: black person wanted to be white.

1684
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: I can see that, but I mean it would need

1685
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: to be it can't be no fucking.

1686
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 4: To be movie they like, and they're doing something similar

1687
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 4: with the girl was getting backlash for what's the one

1688
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 4: that play in the movie with Somema Woka the Buddy

1689
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 4: movie what's her name?

1690
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's sizzl? She played in the movie with silken

1691
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 3: Kie Palmer. And she doing a movie.

1692
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: Where an Asian girl is trying to fit in with

1693
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 4: black people. Did y'all hear about that? Yeah, she's producing

1694
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 4: a movie where an Asian girl goes to an HBCU

1695
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 4: and it's trying to fit in with like the black.

1696
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: People, and like, yeah, but I think they're saying that, yeah,

1697
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: this have worked if there was a black protagonist, and yeah, yeah,

1698
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: I think it could work, but it would have to

1699
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: be a very smart filmmaker.

1700
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,799
Speaker 3: It had to be like what y'all are explaining in smartness, Yeah.

1701
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: Because I think that it would also matter who you're

1702
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 2: making this for. If you're making this for black folks,

1703
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 2: we'll already understand it. Yeah, we'll already understand it. But

1704
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 2: if you're making this for the general audience, then I

1705
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: feel like this needs to be a two hour movie

1706
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: and it needs to have a lot of nuance and

1707
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: detail of why a black person would want to go

1708
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: all the way through doing this.

1709
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 3: I would watch it.

1710
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: I would definitely watch it, but I don't think it's

1711
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

1712
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: So anyway, Well, sound like a Jordan Peel film.

1713
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: It doesn't like a Jordan Peel film. Anyway, Well that's

1714
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 2: gonna do it, I guess for this review. Apologize for

1715
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: the racism here. You know, some of it was unintentional,

1716
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: others unintentional lies.

1717
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, you the worst.

1718
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 2: Just learn the goddamn language, man, Like when you come

1719
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: over here, learn the fucking language.

1720
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 3: Man speak what some of his daughter said.

1721
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: If you don't want to speak, why then go back

1722
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: where the fuck you came from.

1723
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 4: Those that I didn't right, you disagreed with it because

1724
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 4: you said at the beginning of the review that's why

1725
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 4: I got her f.

1726
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 3: Didn't bother to learn the language.

1727
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Jesus like exactly.

1728
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, is Spike leading to a joke,

1729
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: But nah, he's kept going.

1730
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, na, he really just he really does speaking

1731
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 3: right now? Anyways, the movie's okay.

1732
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 2: I would see another movie she does, hopefully she gets

1733
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,639
Speaker 2: a bigger budget and another writer. I think that would

1734
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 2: benefit her to get a co writer, and we'll see

1735
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: what happens.

1736
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's going to do with this review.

1737
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: Let us know what you thought, share with a friend

1738
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 2: or two, and we will see y'all next time.

1739
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: White people, let us know how you feel about it.