1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from Vall, Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: host Kira Davis, filling it for my friend Tony, guiding 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: you into the Thanksgiving holiday. It's a great time to 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: be an American. It's a great time to be alive. 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: I love that America has a Thanksgiving and that it's 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: so American. There's other Thingsgivings. I'm Canadian and Canada has 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: a Thanksgiving. They have it in October sometimes things like 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: the second Monday in October or the third Monday. I 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: don't know who cares. It's not the real Thanksgiving. I 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: didn't even like it when I was a Canadian, so 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: who cares? But the American Thanksgiving always feels so very American. 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: And that's because it is a very American concept to 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: have a nationally recognized day where we all pause as 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: a nation and recognize the principle of gratefulness and the 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: creator of gratefulness. Even though all of you out there 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: not all of you recognize a creator, there's still value 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: incorporately saying we're grateful, and we've gotten away from that 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: as we've turned Thanksgiving. You know, the Libs couldn't get 21 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving off of the books because now it's a federal holiday. 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: So what they did is they did they did what 23 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: they always do. They perverted it. They changed the language 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: around it, they decolonized it as it were, and they 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: made it into Native American Day or Indigenous People's Day 26 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: or you know whatever they made this day into that 27 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: wasn't Thanksgiving. And that matters too, because when you remove 28 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: the core principle of the holiday, then you remove the 29 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: value of it and you remove the consequences of it. 30 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: So the consequences of a nation pausing for just a 31 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: moment on one day a year to say thank you 32 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: to Creator, to the universe, to each other, to their 33 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: own internal feelings, whoever, to say thank you. The consequences 34 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: of that is more gratefulness. That's science, right, you can 35 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: you'll you'll see a dozen reports this week about the 36 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: science of gratefulness. It's not but it's not just science. 37 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: It also has it also has consequences for your personal 38 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: well being, your faith and how but it also views 39 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: helps how you view the people around you and your circumstances. 40 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: So you know, when we do that, that has consequences, 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: and so it has consequences when we stop doing it, 42 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: when we stop looking at things giving day as a 43 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: day to be grateful, and then we start looking at 44 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: it as a day to hate, right, to hate the pilgrims, 45 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: to hate the settlers, to hate the colonists, to hate 46 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: the white people, to hate smallpox, to hate you know, 47 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: straight white Christian men. You know that's what it's become. 48 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: You don't think that has an effect. Again, I want 49 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: to go back to the Duffy rule of travel. Dress 50 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: it up to travel. You don't think that all of 51 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: these things work together to create a society which people 52 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: view each other suspiciously and poorly. It does. It matters 53 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: that we we envelop ourselves in gratefulness, so we don't 54 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: treat each other ungratefully. And it matters that we dress 55 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: with some measure of respect for ourselves so that other 56 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: people don't treat us as though we have disrespect for ourselves. 57 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: You know that happens anyway, But you know what I mean. 58 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: You create a buffer there, you give yourself a running 59 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: start on kindness. It all matters. It all works together 60 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: to shape a high trust society. So I want to 61 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: I want you to stop out. Whenever you see the 62 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: president or the vice president or your favorite talking head 63 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,119 Speaker 2: whoever going talking about something like Secretary Duffy talking about 64 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: dressing up to travel, don't go. I don't know why 65 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: he's talking about that when we don't have enough air 66 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: traffic controllers. Worry about that. He can walk in chew 67 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: gum at the same time. And by the way, he 68 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: is worrying about that, right, the dressing up to travel 69 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: thing is also worrying about the air traffic controller thing. 70 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: Because if you elevate the concept, if you elevate the 71 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: experience of travel, and hopefully maybe fingers crossed, you inspire 72 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: the airlines to elevate their customer service, and then you 73 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: just elevate the entire concept of traveling. You also elevate 74 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: the position of air traffic controller and you get better candidates. 75 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: It all works together. It's the Golden Era everyone, and 76 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: you've got to do your part from top to bottom. Yes, 77 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: go to church. Go to church on Sundays. Even if 78 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: you don't like church, just go. It matters. Yes, ladies, 79 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: put on a dab of lipstick or lip gloss or 80 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: whatever it is that judges up your face when you 81 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: leave the house to go to a meeting or something. 82 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: If you're going to work out, obviously, it all matters. 83 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to Afton Bain in Nashville. 84 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: I want to tell you I want to talk about 85 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: I want to wrap this thought off up before we 86 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: move on for the rest of the episode, because I 87 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: want to talk about some more Thanksgiving stuff. I want 88 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: to do Thanksgiving stories a few up. But here is 89 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: the reason why this is a problem. It is a 90 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: real problem. Mom Donnie in New York. Not that much 91 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: of a surprise, although a little surprised this She's pulling 92 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: close this close in a plus twenty two in a 93 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: district that was plus twenty two for Trump. That's concerning, 94 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: but not totally surprising, because it's Nashville. It's the city, 95 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: and that's what I wanted to talk about. Dave Marcus 96 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 2: over at Fox Digital wrote a great article today about 97 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: how we should not laugh off the Democrat socialist threat 98 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: in red cities. It can come. The Democrat socialism can 99 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: come for the heartland too. And if you're in Indianapolis, 100 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: you already know that's true. Those of us who have 101 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: been living in the Midwest again, I'm in California. But 102 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: we moved here from Gary, Indiana, and I think I 103 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: just have to say the name of the town, and 104 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: you have all kinds of visions about what that was. 105 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: But this has been going on forever in the cities. 106 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: This is not a surprise. Indianapolis, like almost every major 107 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: city in America, has been co opted by the socialists 108 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: and Republicans. Let it happen. We said, well, who's in 109 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: the cities. It's the minorities, as black people. It's they'll 110 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: never vote for us. We've just we've lost the information war, 111 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: we've lost the branding war. They're convinced we're all racists. 112 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: They'll never vote for us. Let's focus on the rural 113 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: areas and suburban areas. Let's focus on where we can win. 114 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: And they seeded the cities. But we have now created 115 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: a society where we have more people living in our 116 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: cities than ever before. And those people are again this 117 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: is this is why it's a holistic thing. Everybody. It's everything, 118 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: not one thing, it's everything. These people have been educated 119 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: in the city public school system for seventy five years, 120 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: and those are the people who have received the majority 121 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: of illegal migrants. So those people have come from communist 122 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: countries and deposited their values there with no pushback, and 123 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: they haven't been required to assimilate because they're here illegally. 124 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: And so we see that the cities and now we've 125 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: got these these socialist meccas, and god forbid, some of 126 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: them actually mecca meccas in urban America in red states. 127 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: That this is a Republican problem. I believe Democrats have 128 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: played this right. We should be worried about this because she, yes, 129 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: she's an idiot, she's an idiot, just like AOC. But 130 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: look at AOC. She's the de facto leader of the 131 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: Democrat Party. Now stop laughing at these people. They're not funny. 132 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: I told you when AOC when she had stopped calling 133 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: her a bartender. Stop stop pretending that what she's doing 134 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: and saying isn't of value to her side of the aisle. 135 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: We can't afford to be flippant about this. Everyone. We 136 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: have lost the cities. Can you imagine losing the Nashville area. 137 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: It's happening, and Nashville has become the conservative influencer mecca 138 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: of America, and even they can't save it. Some of 139 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: the most influential conservatives in this country that you listen 140 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: to are in Nashville and they can't save it. Socialism 141 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: is here, and that's the good news of this. That's 142 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: the good news. I wanted to point out that now 143 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: there's no more guessing. We're not pretending anymore. The Democrats 144 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: aren't looking at us and saying we're not socialists. You 145 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: guys are just paranoid. Remember they always used to do that. 146 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: You can't do that anymore. They're proud socialists and they're 147 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: running on it. The problem is they're winning in the cities. 148 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: They're not winning America. They can't win the general elections yet. 149 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: But if we don't address this problem in the cities 150 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: right now, they will win the general elections one day 151 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: and then we won't be America anymore anymore, or it'll 152 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: be civil war. I think it's going to be civil war. 153 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be civil war. And so 154 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: if we want to avoid civil war, then we need 155 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: to wrestle back these cities. So excuse me, Republicans need 156 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: to get serious and stop seeding these places. You know, 157 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: we had this Prop fifty battle here in California, and 158 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: the National Republicans left us alone. They didn't give us 159 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: any money. They didn't send us any help because they 160 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: knew it was a losing battle, and it was, but 161 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: they do it all the time. We're not going to 162 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: waste our money there, and that's fine. I get that 163 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: from a practical standpoint. But then what happens is you've 164 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: lost us. You've lost it and you need it now 165 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: the places that you're going to need to win in 166 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: the future. You gave up because you thought, I'm not 167 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: going to waste my money there. You didn't fight, and 168 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: now is the time for fighters. So now we're going 169 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: to hopen. We're playing cat. We're coming from behind in 170 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: the cities. Republicans have to get very very serious about 171 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: winning back the cities and they need to make very 172 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: real plays for the cities. Need to figure out how 173 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: Trump did it and replicate that. I need to take 174 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: a break. I'm I'm not a Cure Daves. I almost 175 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: said I am a Cure Davis. I am a Cura Davis, 176 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: but I'm also the Cura Davis sitting in for the 177 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: Tony Kats. And this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back, everybody, 178 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Welcome back to Tony Kats today. I'm your 179 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: guest host Kira Davis sitting in for my good friend 180 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: Tony Katz on this pre Thanksgiving Day Thanksgiving Eve, you 181 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: all getting ready for tomorrow, and what's your favorite Thanksgiving dish? 182 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: Your dish at the Thanksgiving table? I love at the 183 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: table when I'm eating at the table, not because my 184 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: favorite is leftover, so I just I don't know why. 185 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of you are like that too, 186 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: But at the table when it's nice and hot and fresh, 187 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: I love mac and cheese and sweet potatoes. I just 188 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: love that com nation looking forward to that. My husband 189 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: also is a two meat kind of guy. He's not 190 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: satisfied with just turkey on the table. He also has 191 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: to have a ham. It's his prerogative as the breadwinner 192 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: and an American. I understand that, but it's a lot 193 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: of meat every year. I still have the meat from 194 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: last year in the freezer, but I'm gonna chop it 195 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: up and make dog food for my dog with the 196 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: leftovers from last year. Anyway, let me know what you're doing. 197 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm really I'm grateful to be in the Golden era. 198 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: I am. Well, let's talk a little bit about let's 199 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: just divert a little bit something a little more lighthearted 200 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: and give up. Let's dole out some Thanksgiving advice. I 201 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: was reading an advice column people asking about this Saturday. 202 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: The other are a lot of family issues. This woman 203 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: writes about being concerned that she's meeting her boyfriend's mom 204 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: for the first time. She's invited to Thanksgiving, and his 205 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: mom always has a big blowout. You know, his mom 206 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: is the Thanksgiving host, everything from scratch ten sides dishes. 207 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: She's very well known the mom and the family's known 208 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: for her Thanksgiving, and the girlfriend is very much looking 209 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: forward to making a good impression on the mom. There's 210 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: only one problem. The girlfriend is a vegetarian. She says, 211 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: I have not eaten meat in nearly a decade, not 212 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: for attention, but because it genuinely makes me feel physically, 213 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: feel better physically, and it aligns with my values. So 214 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: she's saying like it's not for some kind of I'm 215 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: scoring political points, this is just how I choose to live. Fine, 216 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: so she sounds like a normal vegetarian, not like a preacher. 217 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: My boyfriend mentioned it to his mom and she was polite, 218 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: but I could tell from her tone that she did 219 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: not quite know what to make of it, she said 220 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: something like, oh, she doesn't need turkey, Well, we'll figure 221 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: something out. Now I'm panicking. I don't want to show 222 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: up and seem ungrateful, picky, or worse, judgmental. I want 223 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: his mom to like me, and I know how personal 224 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: cooking can be. I've even thought about just taking a 225 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: small piece of turkey to be polite. But the idea 226 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: of doing what feels wrong, and idea of doing that 227 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: feels wrong and dishonest. On the other hand, I don't 228 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: want to make the whole meal about me or cause 229 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: awkwardness around the dinner table. Should I offer to bring 230 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: a vegetarian dish to share? Should I just quietly fill 231 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: my plate with sides and hope no one notices? Or 232 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: should I explain my choice more directly so it does 233 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: not seem like I am being difficult. I really care 234 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: about this guy, and I would love to start off 235 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: on the right foot with his family. I actually love 236 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: this letter. I love it because she's clearly saying she's 237 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: not trying to be obnoxious about it. She is absolutely 238 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: not expecting anyone to accommodate her. That's the right step, 239 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: and I think that's why letter writer you're going to 240 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: do just fine at Thanksgiving dinner. You're going in with 241 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: the right attitude. I do believe that the right thing 242 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 2: to do here is to bring a vegetarian dish. It's 243 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: something that you can enjoy in case there's nothing on 244 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: the table. Because I don't know how hardcore you are. 245 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: Some vegetarians won't even eat dishes that have been cooked 246 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: in cook where that has also cooked meat. So I 247 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: don't know if you're that hardcore or maybe you're just like, no, 248 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: that's not it. I just don't want to consume the product. 249 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: So if you don't mind, you know the prep work 250 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: for the sides, and you should also but make sure 251 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: you ask what's in the sides, because again I don't 252 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: know what kind of family your boyfriend's in. I'm going 253 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: to guess by the mom's reaction that it's not a 254 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: black family, because that black mom would have just said 255 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: you're getting turkey anyway, she would have just fed. We 256 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: don't believe in vegetarians. But but I don't know what 257 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: kind of family they're in, but they might. You know, 258 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: black people, we cook a lot of Southern people period 259 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: actually just cook our greens in like hamhocks, or whatever, 260 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: so some of the prep work might be done with meat. 261 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: You have to ask otherwise. I think you bring a 262 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: dish that's shareable, but also that you can consume if 263 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: there's nothing else for you to consume on the table, 264 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: and then don't make a big deal out of it. 265 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: And guess what, probably they're not going to either. You 266 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: did when they offer you turkey to say, oh, no, 267 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: thank you. I'm a vegetarian, but I would love some 268 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: of that mac and cheese, Like that's what you do, 269 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: I love it. Go have a great time. I think 270 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: you sound like a lovely young lady, and I think 271 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: that the mom is going to I think she'll be pleased, 272 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: because the whole point is your attitude, isn't it. That's 273 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: the whole point about Thanksgiving. I was reading advice columns. 274 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to do my own little advice column for Thanksgiving, 275 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: and I was reading some and it's just it's column 276 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: after column of like, how do I deal with my family? 277 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: How do I get through this Thanksgiving? It's all family 278 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: coat and I have the same kind of family, not 279 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: my immediate family, but my extended family, and so I 280 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: totally get that. But I thought to myself, God, all 281 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: of these columns are from people who are dreading being 282 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: with their family. It's just so much coke. And I 283 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: just wondered, is anyone having a good Thanksgiving out there? 284 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: Are there people who look forward to their family meetings. 285 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: I actually put a call out on X for some 286 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 2: positive stories, and I got a number. I got a 287 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: number back, a number of positive responses, people who said, 288 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: we look forward to it. You know, our family doesn't 289 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: agree on politics, but there's other things to talk about. 290 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: I agree with that. You know, my liberal friend is 291 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: coming over for Thanksgiving tomorrow and he's bringing his liberal 292 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: friends and it'll be fine. We'll be fine because you 293 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: can still have those types of relationships in modern America. 294 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: You cannot have those types of relationships in modern America 295 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: with progressives. And those people are the problem. And that's 296 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: why there's so many people this Thanksgiving dinner. I saw 297 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: so this Thanksgiving that year. I saw so many people 298 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: writing ours and posting comments about their no contact Thanksgiving. 299 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: Just so many people have cut their families off. This 300 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: is really this is why I'm bringing it down. This 301 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: is a lighthearted discussion of this radio everybody, but this 302 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: is why I say, I think if we don't wrestle 303 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: back this culture, we're headed for civil war because that's 304 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: the first step in advancement to war is families splitting apart. 305 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: And you can go read our own history here in 306 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: America of how it was even in the revolutionary times 307 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: and in civil war times, where people were really split, 308 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: and that those were big deals. You're talking about things 309 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: that can change the face of your country, like where 310 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: you live. These were in the birth, the nascent days 311 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: of our country. So these were very serious splits. And 312 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: you if you read history, you see family turning on family. 313 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: You can read journal entries about it. Brother leaving system, sure, 314 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: daughters and sons leaving mothers at bothers. That's where we are. 315 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: And so every time you read an article about that 316 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: this Thanksgiving, I want you to think about that and 317 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: think about how that's a precursor to civil war. So 318 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: if we don't wrestle things back now, we might get 319 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: to the point where we can't do it at all. 320 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: What a lovely note to end on. We'll talk about 321 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: something more fun when we come back on the other 322 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: side of the break, I promise. I'm Cura Davis filling 323 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz and This is Tony Kats Today. 324 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Katz today Little Stranger Things 325 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: shout out, It's Stranger Things Day. How many of you 326 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: people out there? Leanna and I were talking in the 327 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: break about our love for Stranger Things, and the final 328 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: season is premiering today. I think it'll be out in 329 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: two parts. I think it's going to take like another 330 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: five years for them to wrap up the show. The 331 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: kids are going to be grand grandparents by the time 332 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: it's wrapped up. It's really weird how they do episodic 333 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: TV these days. But anyways, it's a big deal in 334 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: the Davis household. My daughter's a big Stranger Things fan 335 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: and we have followed these people forever. And if you're 336 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: old like me, you know that song is a hit 337 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: song for the eighties Kate Bush. But if you're if 338 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: you're younger like my daughter, you know that song is 339 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: a hit song from Stranger Things. That song got a 340 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: number one Billboard spot. I think it was sixty years apart. 341 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: Just amazing the power of the Internet, isn't it. Let's 342 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: talk about something that's so amazing. I'd had this clip. 343 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: I've been staring at this clip clip mine I'm gonna 344 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: it's been visited upon me, I shall visit it upon you. 345 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: Right now, everybody's favorite racial justice warrior, Joy Read, joined 346 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: too Bitter White Ladies podcast. I don't think that's the 347 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: name of the podcast, but that's what it is to me. 348 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: It's one of the Bravo chicks. Jennifer somebody Welch. That's 349 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: it because her name sounds even like she's puckering her 350 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 2: lips all the time, like she's sour Jennifer Welch, doesn't 351 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: she She just seems it sounds like a name that 352 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: just got the scolding built into it, and she's a 353 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: horrible person. But Joy Reid joined her and her other 354 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: bitter friend for a podcast and they were talking about 355 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: all kinds of things. But then they talked the topic 356 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: came to Jadie Vance and his wife Usha, who, as 357 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: you know, is Indian American and or of Indian descent, 358 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: and well, I won't explain it. Let's just let Joy read. 359 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: We had to thank you Landa for your hard work 360 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: of bleeping this out because they are vile people. But 361 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: let's let Joy give her comments for herself and then 362 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: I will break it down. 363 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: Motivates them so they can't have the successor to Maga 364 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: be the guy with the brown Hindoo wife. They're also 365 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: Christian nationalists. That ain't gonna work. That's why he's throwing 366 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: his wife under the bus or usha or she's in on. 367 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: It right, and he's playing slap and tackle with Erica 368 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 4: Kirk's aware that I've ever seen. Yeah, she's like in 369 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 4: her Tammy fay era. 370 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: Okay, holding on the back of his head and rubbing 371 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: on his some weird baby. I don't do that today, said, 372 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start thinking something's going on. Why are you 373 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: holding the bigger he's here. 374 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: I'm like, you're not doing that right thing. You're supposed 375 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: to be a widow. You in leather pants, that's not aware. 376 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: Could you imagine if wouldn't it be the most perfect 377 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 4: fairy tale, Maga fairytale if he finally sees the light 378 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: that he needs a white queen instead of this brown hindu. 379 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying that's happening, right, or maybe 380 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: that's just not even in on it. Maybe she's like whatever. 381 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: But that's that's one entrant. Another entrant is Frankly Donald 382 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: Trump Junior. If he can you know, you know, together. 383 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: I don't want to be silent because this is radio. 384 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: But what I want to do is just sit here 385 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: and stare for a minute, because it's you know, you're 386 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: almost at a loss for words, at the vile, at 387 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: the pure, vile hatred of these women. But this is 388 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about when I say there are some 389 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: people in this country we're not going to reconcile with. 390 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Your liberal friends and family, you 391 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: can do it. The progressives they're lost. They're lost, and 392 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: maybe something will come along to show them the way. 393 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: And maybe your calling is to talk to those people. 394 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: But for me, I'm done. They're lost. They have nothing 395 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: of value to offer. Joy Read is a vile, horrible person. 396 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: It's November. Erica Kirk's husband got shot in the neck 397 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: in front of the entire world in September. It's no member. 398 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: Excuse you for talking about her wardrobe choices, the leather pants. 399 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 2: What's the proper widow attire? Joy? Tell me that was she? 400 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: Is there a department store that you go to when 401 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: your husband gets murdered? Give me the widow where I'm 402 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: not allowed to wear wet leather? I guess I'm not 403 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: allowed to wear my regular typical wardrobe that I wore 404 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: every day before I lost my husband. What's the widow dress? 405 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: Joy Oh, America. Jd Vance has a problem with a 406 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: brown wife. That's all made up. It's all projection. It's 407 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: them that has the problem with the brown wife. It's 408 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: joy Read that has the problem with the brown wife. 409 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Do you understand me? Everything they say is projection. They 410 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: framed January sixth as an insurrection, and then they spent 411 00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: four years lecturing us and repeating the Mantra insurrection, insurrection, insurrection, 412 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: and of course it wasn't and that's being proven. So 413 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: now who's the one launching an insurrection? It's the Democrats 414 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: making a video encouraging members of the military, of the 415 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: military to disobey direct orders, to disobey their chain of 416 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: command and their commander in cheap that's insurrectionist. That's an insurrection. 417 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: They're project they're projecting with this too. You don't care 418 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: what color jd Vance's wife is. She does. She doesn't 419 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: like that the white man is married to the brown woman. 420 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: That's a problem for her. And I'm not going to 421 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: break down her psyche to tell you why. It could 422 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: be all kinds of reasons. Maybe she really is a racist, 423 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: or maybe she's jealous. Maybe she's actually a sellout and 424 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: she wants the white man to pick her. I actually 425 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: think that's what it is. I actually do. I think 426 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: that's what the problem is of women like Joe Read. 427 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: She looks at women like me and she goes, You're 428 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: a sellout, Kiara, You're selling out the black community just 429 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: so you can get some of that Republican love. Those 430 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: lucrative Republican jobs look lucrative. I'm a guest host on radio. 431 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: You know, I haven't exactly had the most lucrative career 432 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 2: as a black Republican. It's not very lucrative unless you're 433 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: candas OANs, it's not very lucrative. So and it's not 434 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: lucrative because I don't sell out. Right, you know what 435 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: would would make me rich if I sat on this 436 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 2: microphone right now, you know what, Republicans really are racist 437 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 2: and I really made a mistake becoming conservative, and I'm 438 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: leaving the Republican Party and I'm going to spill all 439 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: the beans, all the dirt that I know that would 440 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: make me rich. That's what made Joy Read rich, and 441 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: it just got she got over her skis and the 442 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: landscape change and they had to let her go. But 443 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: the only reason she got the job in the first place, 444 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: this is because she talked trash about white people, literally 445 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: her own. The only reason she's not smart. What analysis 446 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: has she given you that is really opening up or 447 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: illuminating a topic for you or anybody. Nothing. She doesn't 448 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: add anything to the conversation. Her only job there is 449 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 2: to hate white people. But I think she does that 450 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: job because it's how she gets white people to love her. 451 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: And I so that's why I always think these black 452 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: commentators on the left are the real sellouts because they 453 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: want to be in the rooms with those white people. 454 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: They want to be at the cocktail parties with those 455 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: white people, and so that's why they go. And every 456 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: time they do, like here's joy Read. That's the other thing, 457 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: it's it's such as I can't think of another word 458 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: to you, So I'm sorry, but it is such a 459 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: vile specter. If you watch this video to see joy 460 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: Read sitting there with these two blond women at the table. 461 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: The two blonde women are looking at her like they 462 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: just adore her, right, Like this is a black woman 463 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: who's talking to them like she like they're one of 464 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: her community. And that's what every awful wants, right, affluent white, 465 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: urban liberal woman, that's what every awful wants, to be 466 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: the best friend to the black woman. So they're eating 467 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 2: it up. They're lapping it up because Joy is accepting 468 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 2: them and she's paling around with them. And then Joy's 469 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: eating it up because she's in an elevated status, right, 470 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: these upper class white women who otherwise she would not 471 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 2: belong in their circle of friends. Otherwise they would never 472 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: have time for a person like Joy. The angri or 473 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: she gets, the more they clap, the rooter she gets, 474 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: the more validation they give. That's what it is. That's 475 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: what you're looking at. That's their ecosystem. On the left, 476 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: Joy Read is an awful person because she hates herself, health, 477 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: and she wants the white people to love her. I 478 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: said it, I said it. I'll say it again. That's 479 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: why she's so mean about everything, and that's why she 480 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: looks That's why this is the other thing I want 481 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: to think about too. I'm actually gonna write about this 482 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: or maybe i'll podcast about it because I need to 483 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: talk it out. But the other there's something going on 484 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: on the left where they sexualize everything. They sexualize everything. 485 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: You see it in your entertainment, like even your kids 486 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: entertainment like Stranger Things, We're gonna that's gonna premiere tonight 487 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: for the final season, and even in that show, you 488 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: watch that show and you don't know, you can't. No 489 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: relationship is safe. This is one I'm saying, No same 490 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: sex relationship is safe because everything is sexualized, and so 491 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: you're never sure if you're watching kids that are just 492 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: kids and enjoying each other as kids, or if you're 493 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: watching something that's gonna morph into a romantic relationship. To 494 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: teach you the viewer a lesson there, it's not. They're 495 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: not safe, and so they sexualize everything because they've taken 496 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: the guard rails off of relationships. Right, Family is who 497 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: you make it, Love is love, gay marriage, thrupples, polyamory. Right, 498 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: they've taken the guardrails off of everything, and it makes 499 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: everything permissible. And then you do and then you have 500 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: no no tradition, and no traditional relationships, and so they 501 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: cannot caught conceive of a platonic relationship opposite sex or 502 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: even same sex. Everything is sexualized, and that's why fan 503 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: fiction is really popular, right, Now, if you never heard 504 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: of fan fiction, that's where you take whatever TV show 505 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: or thing that you like. Let's say Twilight, which started 506 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 2: out as fan fiction. Do you take that? And then 507 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: you have a bunch of people who just write their 508 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: own sort of stories like what they wish would happen. 509 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: And what fan fiction does is it ships people. That's 510 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: what the kids call making relationships. It ships people and 511 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: ships the characters that they kind of wish would have 512 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: gone together in the story but for whatever reason didn't. 513 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: It feeds this fantasy. But shipping culture is fantasy culture 514 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: on the left, and they're always trying to ship people 515 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: because everything's sexualized. So they're shipping JD. Van's and Erica 516 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: Kirk because they're weird. There's something wrong on that side, 517 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: and they sexualize everything. And so Joy Reid and her 518 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: two white, weird friends can't understand that these are two 519 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: people who know each other and who have just lost 520 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: to someone very special to them both. She has to 521 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: sexualize it because she is a pervert, just like the 522 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: two women she was talking to. This is why we 523 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: can't work with these people. We can't compromise with these people, 524 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: and we can never persuade these people. We just have 525 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: to defeat them because they're dangerous and they cannot be 526 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: convinced and they cannot be persuaded. They have all the 527 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: wrong ideas, and worse, they think they have right ideas. 528 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: We got to take a break. I'm here Davis filling 529 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: in for Tony Kats, and this is Tony Kats Today. 530 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest host, 531 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: Kira Davis filling in for Tony Kats. You can find 532 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: me on x at Kira Davia's ki r A Davis 533 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: or on Instagram at just Kia Davis jus t kurrat Davis, 534 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: or go find my substack just here davis dot com 535 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: and you'll my podcast is over there. I just do 536 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: a I don't have a daily podcast or a weekly 537 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: podcast anymore. I've shelved just Listen to Yourself, which is 538 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: it's been my main brand for five or six years. 539 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: I've shelved it because it's a persuasion podcast. It's a 540 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: critical thinking podcast, and you know what, after Charlie just 541 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: sort of done with it, I just I don't feel 542 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: very persuasive anymore. I just kind of want to win, 543 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: so I shelved it, and now I'm just sort of 544 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: giving random talks whenever I feel like it. So substack's 545 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: the best place just to catch all that stuff. I 546 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: got nothing regular going on, but whatever I have going 547 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: on goes over there all right. While we've been going 548 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: through some Thanksgiving advice, and I found another little advice 549 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: column that I want to share with you. Let's problem 550 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: solve here. This woman says, I am dreading Thanksgiving because 551 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: my sister and her husband are coming with their toddler, 552 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 2: whom they refuse to supervise. Every time they bring him somewhere, 553 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: the host always ends up having to make sure he 554 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: doesn't wreck something or kill himself while his parents gab 555 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: away or play on their phones. My husband and I 556 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: will be hosting twelve other people besides them, and we 557 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: have no desire to play babysitters while trying to pull 558 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: off making serving two turkeys plus sides. The kicker is 559 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: that if I tell my sister she can't come, she'll 560 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: stir the pot with our parents since she's the precious 561 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: golden child, or she'll claim that she and my brother 562 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: in law will watch my nephew, only to go back 563 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 2: on their word. Any ideas other than tying him to something. Okay, well, 564 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 2: I don't think tying to something is such a bad idea, 565 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: but maybe it's not, honestly, but let's think about it here. 566 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: Because I don't think you're out of line. I do 567 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: think it's out of line to consider disinviting your sister. 568 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: That's family, family's family. However, this is sort of what 569 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: I was talking about about, a return to the golden era. 570 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: A return to a high trust society requires the big 571 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: things and the little things. So the big things like 572 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: cutting red tape for travel to make it easier to 573 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: serve the customer, and the little things like dressing up 574 00:34:53,520 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 2: for travel to make the whole experience more respectable. All right, well, 575 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: you know what we're getting on the music. I didn't 576 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: realize time is going so fast. This is what I 577 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: want to say about this. You can have the toddler over, 578 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: but you have to keep making the parents responsible for 579 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: the toddlers. So every single time he does something, you 580 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: make it at the parent's problem, and that's how they'll learn. 581 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, I'll learn how to read a clock after this. 582 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm Kira Davis, and this is Tony Katz today