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Speaker 1: want to know what's the Mike still on.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, welcome everybody to a new episode of the

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Speaker 2: It's My Salone Podcast.

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Speaker 3: My name is Kenethy, and join you on the show.

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Speaker 3: I have Rod, Mike, be and Spike. I am Miles Morales.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, not bad.

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Speaker 4: Zero baby, So go see the video.

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Speaker 1: Go watch the video. Predator, I am a predator api. Yes, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, like, yes, yes, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I can't see ship and uh chucky.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want a Halloween costume.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said that. I didn't expect him to have

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Speaker 4: I thought he was ten. He was.

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Speaker 1: I was close. Yeah, you just don't like fun, Spike.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been at least thirty years since I had.

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Speaker 1: Try I'm like, you should try it, not seriously.

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Speaker 3: I used to be like that, just nah no no,

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Speaker 3: a little bit. They get older, Spike pause, I have kids. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 3: but I think these are fun. I think the off

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Speaker 1: But you know, they enjoy it, and you know I

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Speaker 1: get a kick out of it. I'm mister terrific turkeys.

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Speaker 1: So that's what you are. You realize that. Oh No,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the F ten guy or F one,

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Speaker 1: the brother fucking jacket that ship dope. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: ain't see that. You ain't see the He ain't put

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Speaker 1: tea on his face, I would have got it. But no,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was just in my coffee. What's his

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Speaker 1: h go get it bow trying you again, Jaalen.

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Speaker 2: That's a call back to the Patreon and discuss we

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Speaker 2: had about fights.

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Speaker 1: He don't believe in your hands. But I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you God. Damn. It is what son in the

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Speaker 1: jaen right now. Hey ain't gonna get his get back

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Speaker 1: on your fight, he said, I ain't gonna lose. I

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Speaker 1: will not lose.

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Speaker 4: Turn up fun that in.

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Speaker 1: Go sparing spar look at trying to try to trying

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Speaker 1: to sweet it up a little bit after you saw

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Speaker 2: So we appreciate you guys joining us this. By the

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Speaker 2: time you listened this Forbubly Wednesday, so Halloween is on

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Speaker 2: the thirty first.

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Speaker 1: That's a Friday, correct, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fell on the weekend this year, Halloween for a

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Speaker 3: little new weekend.

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Speaker 4: I got that one. He's like, Captain America. What's that?

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Speaker 1: What's that movie?

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Speaker 4: He's like, I got that.

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Speaker 1: I got that.

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Speaker 4: But go check out the frames per Second live.

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Speaker 2: It is on the frames per Second YouTube channel, YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot Com, slash fbs podcast.

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Speaker 3: We did our top five horror movies. So check that

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Speaker 3: out to see what each of us selected as our

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Speaker 3: picks for our top five horror movies. Again, that's on

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Speaker 3: the frames per Second YouTube channel. Uh so you can

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Speaker 2: But let's get in the show, which also just just quick,

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Speaker 2: as we always do, let's start with our fun facts.

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Speaker 3: Just a couple of fun facts based around the Halloween holiday. Mike,

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Speaker 3: did you know the Jason Voorhees from Friday the thirteenth

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Speaker 3: He constructed a Jason Voorhees statue masking all made of plywood,

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Speaker 1: I did not know that. That's just super dope.

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Speaker 3: It's only been able to see you by the most

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Speaker 4: That's what's it, all right, This one probably applies to me.

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Speaker 3: One in five adults. You usually pretend not to be

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Speaker 1: Oh that's okay.

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Speaker 4: I would have thought Valentine's Day. You know they already

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Speaker 3: Somebody on tiktoks like we should just protest the holidays

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Speaker 3: is just protest the holidays. Last one sugar rationing doing

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Speaker 4: Damn sugar shortage. How has that happened?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Oh all right, today is October

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Speaker 1: twenty six. We have some birthdays today. Seth McFarlane, y'all

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Speaker 1: I was saying, said Nick you yeah, Nick be sending

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Speaker 3: Jalen and I have a check where we send each

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Speaker 3: other good music. Yes, it don't have to be good

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Speaker 4: What was it?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 1: Do you know? Who? Klan is? Klon?

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Speaker 3: they got Brandy back out here, and is it good?

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Speaker 1: It's really good Brandy, But.

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Speaker 4: She ain't got a new music. Y'all knew what I meant?

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Speaker 1: See how y'all be? Yeah, it was just important. Where's

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Speaker 1: last time Brandy put an album out? It just sounded

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Speaker 1: But what she's touring, she's not putting out me. See

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Speaker 3: To your point? To your point, she the only one

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Speaker 1: That's all can didn't know. I'm telling y'all, look, Brandy

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Speaker 1: towing away, it's already happened. He's already happy.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people you'll like Brandon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah they're cool. No, they're iconic. Yeah

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't go to him. I would like him.

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Speaker 1: It's odd, Bro. You didn't see were playing talking about them. No,

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Speaker 1: I would love to see New Edition again. So all

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Speaker 6: I don't see no verses between be on stage like,

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Speaker 1: Because Ralph isn't doing it he was He's doing six

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Speaker 1: That song? That was like sex fuck. That's how you remember.

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Speaker 1: I think I really might unless it's crazy expensive. I

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Speaker 1: I might take my mom to that, all right. Another

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Speaker 1: That's right, school Boy, qan Face is a city. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, y'all can't say that.

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Speaker 1: It ain't as good as blank Face. Controls is missed

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't argue it. What's your one?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's differently between blank Face and Section eighty mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Mike saying blank Face is the best

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Speaker 6: Yeah, blank Face. I was listening that ship not too long.

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Speaker 4: And that's what they're saying, like it helped assist because a.

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Speaker 3: But it's a black and vendor.

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Speaker 1: So if she receives, let me sit real quick.

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Speaker 3: She receives, So it's a it's an innovation that he did,

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Speaker 1: It's an innovation challenge they do.

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Speaker 3: It's a President's Innovation Challenge they do at Harvard and

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Speaker 3: So yeah, she got a significant amount of money for

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I still am very against.

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Speaker 3: Robots and certain technology that could take people out of

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Speaker 3: It's a little That's why I want to make sure

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Speaker 3: No, because because I like it, you know how you

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Speaker 1: let no robot fucking my hair. I think it's hard

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Speaker 4: I can change a clipper. They could do it.

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Speaker 4: Ball fade like a like like you're like you father

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Speaker 3: make it sound good. They gotta educate people, and then

441
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: on top of that, they gotta maybe offer some type

442
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 3: of subsidies to offset the increase in a electric and

443
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 3: electricity y'all gonna learn one day. So that's gonna be

444
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 3: a big thing, because yeah, it uses a lot.

445
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: Of power, and they're gonna offer and they're gonna drive

446
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: y'alls bills up, and then y'all fool's gonna be sitting

447
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: back happy.

448
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, what they're gonna do is either offer subsidies and

449
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: then take them away. It's it's still the thing They

450
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: always offer something and then take it away say oh,

451
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this, and then next thing you know,

452
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna make a change thing.

453
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 3: You stuck with it, jumping your little self driving powers man,

454
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: because these things used a lot of power.

455
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's gonna be like even now you

456
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: know with the with the EV cars and stuff like that,

457
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: they're charging for that ship, extra for that ship.

458
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: That ship used to be free. Yeah, Trump got rid

459
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: of that's like some of that ship. Oh you're telling

460
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: me that they made these evs and it wasn't about

461
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: the earth and stuff. I know.

462
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that one it is about the earth.

463
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: To what they've done is that they've they've deed. They

464
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: stalled it long enough to figure out a way to

465
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: make money off of it. The power companies. You know,

466
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: it's is conversations we've been having. So once they figured

467
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: out a way to monetize it, then now the electric

468
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: companies are more on board because sometimes they're offering to

469
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: install these chargers in your home for free and pay

470
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: for it and then charge you on top of that.

471
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 4: They're trying to find ways to convince people to get them.

472
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 3: Because these cars absolutely should be solar powered, like this

473
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: should be no reason why the sun couldn't power our

474
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: power ev cars. And so you're obviously trying to find

475
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: a way to eliminate that and profit off of it.

476
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: And the batteries lasts a super long time too. The

477
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: batteries supposed to last a long time too, so they

478
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: got to find a way. So the companies say that

479
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: charging these vehicles take a lot of power, therefore they

480
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: have to charge for it.

481
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like bullshit to me, but.

482
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 5: It's like those charges us to be at the grocery store,

483
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: parking lots or whatever.

484
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: They used to be free. So now that you got to.

485
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: Pay a certain they're free.

486
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: And then they have those that you have to pay

487
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: extra charge charge. They all think those were free.

488
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 3: I thought that you know, you got to put a

489
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: debit card on file and you in your car system.

490
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: I know what Tesla, right, when you go to those

491
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: charges stations, they charge you for that.

492
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a test.

493
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: The yes's attached to your Tesla acounts. It's just cheaping

494
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: the gas. No, you yelled at me when I did it,

495
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: But Spike do it. It's okay.

496
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: But I thought when they first rolled out they were free.

497
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: People couldn't see. Yeah, they weren't free in the beginning.

498
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: Attach your debit card to it.

499
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: But are they charging?

500
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you go, it'll tell you how much she

501
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: charged you.

502
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: It would be insane if that was free, there'd be motherfuckers,

503
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: bro I thought they were always free, man, No, no, no, no,

504
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: it's attached to it. So the super charges are attached.

505
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know why.

506
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: I thought when when they first gave you, and when

507
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: there's companies like the Walmarts wherever they were putting those

508
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: stations there, I thought in the very beginning, not now,

509
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 2: that they were free.

510
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

511
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 3: So contract contrary to what you just said, like he did,

512
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: like it was a situation where if you bought new

513
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 3: you get lifetime charging or whatever, but you have to

514
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: buy it new.

515
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: So that's the sense of.

516
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: If you buy it, buy it new, you can get

517
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: like a lifetime charge. I don't know if he still

518
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: has that or whatever. But the charger stations themselves is

519
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 3: there's different ones. So there's ones where you it's attached

520
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: to your account. It's not much money, though I saved

521
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: a hell of a lot of now yeah, now I guess, yeah, absolutely,

522
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: I do not like I've saved so.

523
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: Much money, but your dignity, how much have you spend?

524
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Just need to do over you opened it for. But

525
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, I save a lot of money.

526
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: It's very practical card.

527
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't spend, I don't have all

528
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: changes all none of that ship like it's it's I'm

529
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: not I'm not promoting and I'm not telling you you

530
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: do what you want to do.

531
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: But I have saved a lot of money having the

532
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: card that I have. But but uh, I just went

533
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: to one that was free.

534
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 3: I was in Colony Square and I normally see him

535
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: with the card thing, and I was going to expect

536
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: them to pay because because like Tesla has their own ones,

537
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: but then they have some.

538
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: That that's not that but you have to put your

539
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: card up put to it. This one did not have that.

540
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: It was just it was just a station while I

541
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: was shopping around that I was able to just plug

542
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: it in. It doesn't do like the super fast charge,

543
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: but it was a charge enough like so it's not

544
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: just sitting there.

545
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn, okay. I really did not

546
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: realize that they had something that was free. So they

547
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: did have something that was free at Colling the Square

548
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: downtown did have a camera on it, camera on the thing.

549
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: Probably it probably was something around it or because if

550
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: they see that you're black, they charge you. They don't

551
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: want nigga driving those cars, Yeah, they don't.

552
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: I think they're trying to put parameters around it because

553
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: it is a lot of a lot of black folks

554
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: driving them down, especially for like Uber and all that,

555
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: and I think they probably trying.

556
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: To crack down. Really, I could see them not because

557
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: it huh, what makes you say them say what?

558
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: They don't want black people driving those cars?

559
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. I know a lot of them.

560
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: I know you do. Yeah, That's what I'm saying.

561
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: They it's less than the product to them, I think,

562
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: just like the Polo shit, I think it's less.

563
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: Than the brand.

564
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: But by so many black people say that again the

565
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: brand is less then because of what I think, because

566
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: black a lot of black people are purchasing.

567
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 4: I think.

568
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: You really think that. I do think that. I do

569
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: think that Elon do not like the influx of black

570
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: people that have these cars. I do think that.

571
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 4: I think he likes the color green. I do, But

572
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: but it's like the Tommy he'll figure.

573
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Shit, I don't know if I can own ward with it,

574
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: because Tommy came out and said he ain't never say that.

575
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Elon give a damn.

576
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: I thought, now I know when the turn for Elon,

577
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: when he became like a feeling in public eye the

578
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: brand of Tesla. When oh wait, hold on, let me

579
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: back back up, when Elon because I got it wrong,

580
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: when Elon introduced easier, more affordable models, yes, that impacted

581
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: the outlook of Tesla.

582
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: It became less of the iPhone.

583
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: And then when Elon's public enemy changed, image changed, he

584
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: became a villain. People started flocking to Rivian because I

585
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: know somebody that did it. They don't like the fucking Rivian.

586
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: About to get rid of that, go back to the Testament,

587
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: because it's just in their eyes is different. And they've

588
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: they you know what, you know what I'm talking about,

589
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: And they've had the Tesla's from the beginning, like they

590
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: were pre ordered the deliver so they've been on board

591
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: before el.

592
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: Made this android iPhone type thing.

593
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: It was in the beginning, it was definitely an Android

594
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: versus iPhone thing because you know, it was an elite status.

595
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: But then when he started introducing the middle class, and

596
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: then I think it was the one that was even

597
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: more affordable. The person I know about was like, oh, well,

598
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: you've removed the status appeal of it, therefore I.

599
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Don't even want to have it anymore.

600
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: That was that part that happened to I know it

601
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: sounds crazy about but it's a real thing, bro, It's

602
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: a real thing. They admit that this is just a

603
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: status symbol.

604
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: So it was this terrible thing that is a symbol

605
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: of white supremacy and driving it around town because my

606
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: status needs to.

607
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 4: Be higher than the rest.

608
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: Before Elon was He's always known that, but before the

609
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: massive public known about it.

610
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the thing.

611
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: It's my phone at all. iPhone doesn't have anything that's

612
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: happened in the last five years. Everyone sure, but but

613
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I think people get used to Yeah, people get used

614
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: to how Apple products work.

615
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 4: And Steve Jobs.

616
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: As much of a piece of shit as he was,

617
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't an out and out fucking Nazi. He certainly

618
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the white supremacist.

619
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: But I'm saying it's a status symbol.

620
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: For people to get the newest woman, the newest one.

621
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 3: Sure sure, sure, sure, don't even just have one period,

622
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: like people will add you to group chats if you

623
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: got to.

624
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Like that, be that. That's not you got bad friends,

625
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: but that's universal's universe. I don't have any friends that

626
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: would do that. Like my closest friends don't have iPhones

627
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: and they're all in group chats. But it is like

628
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: you got bad It's a real thing. But I'm saying

629
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: those are shitty people.

630
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 4: I've never had got it. I was gonna say, yeah,

631
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 4: people see that green pop up like we do as

632
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: a joke.

633
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still mad that he's Yeah, I'm still man

634
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 3: bro like I was gonna say, but change though they

635
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: have like like iPhone features, like you can see the

636
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: received ship now they do have the features, but it's

637
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: still probably just like the color green.

638
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was cool that they that they adapted

639
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: to the iPhone.

640
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: Now I don't know what what software they have in

641
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: it now, but yeah, something you think that they have

642
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: an iPhone.

643
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: There's starting to be like this discussion about the green

644
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: versus blue taking place where.

645
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: It is crazy, we are what fucking losers?

646
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so yeah they're trying to there's the whole

647
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: discussion about.

648
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: That about this Why is there a discussion around because

649
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: it was because it was snobbish and.

650
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: And all of those things that humans just naturally do.

651
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: It's weird. I participated in it. I participated in this.

652
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: Be shamed the problems we have. We all have our message.

653
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to not have an iPhone anymore,

654
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: but I've already told y'all I always get like six

655
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: seven generations behind just because it's cheaper.

656
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: But I've just gotten used to how they work.

657
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: I've had an Android. I just do not like how

658
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: I've never had one, but I've been around people that

659
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: have them, and I'm just like, I don't much. It's

660
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: too much.

661
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: It's awful. I know, once you get used to it,

662
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: you get used to it. I have a Android tablet

663
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: and I hate it. I hate it, but it's the

664
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: only one that I can read my comic books on,

665
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: my digital comic books. It's the only one that the

666
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: app will work on that I can read my coma

667
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: books on. So I have to have it because that's OK. Yeah,

668
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't work the app store. They've taken the apps.

669
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: It's not being supported anymore, so they took so I

670
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: have to sideloader or whatever.

671
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 5: So I Samsung table or something like that, the Galaxy.

672
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: T eight or whatever it was, I just found the

673
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: cheapest talking about it, I'm just I have no idea

674
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: that anyway.

675
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, so yeah so but yeah, back to what

676
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: I was saying, But yeah, so when definitely when he so, yeah,

677
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: so they went to Rivan.

678
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm kind of with Rod on this one.

679
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: I do think that even if Elon won't say it

680
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: out loud, I'm with Rod. I bet he does not

681
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: like all these black people driving his cars. He made

682
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: them for an elite type of person, and in the

683
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: white supremacist brain, even though he likes getting those dollars,

684
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: they don't count as the elite type of person. So

685
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: he's never gonna say unless he's stupid enough to slip up.

686
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you he feels the Arabic spiders because

687
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: because we.

688
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: Kind of drive the culture to Like you mentioned Polo,

689
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: you think Polo thinks it too. No, no, no, remember

690
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: there was a there was a you know it was

691
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: a health figure though.

692
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if.

693
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 3: You meant yeah, but but no, that's why, like you see,

694
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: like the cyber tux and is like a hundred some

695
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 3: plus he's creating something that Okay, y'all able to get these,

696
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: but he ain't gonna be to get these. But motherfuckers

697
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: still getting it though, but like breaking the bank to

698
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: try to get them ships see the cyber truck every day.

699
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, everywhere.

700
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I feel like he's trying to take

701
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: steps to to to try to weed some of that out.

702
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: I guess looking at the price point for some of these,

703
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: I could see what you guys are saying. The affordability

704
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: of it would definitely price out demo.

705
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 3: Crazy thing is that make black people wanted more. That's

706
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: like you experience that with like with designer clothes. You

707
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: experienced that with shoes, like a lot of things.

708
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Like I want that because it sad it is the

709
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: motherfucker can be an out and out fucking Nazi say

710
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: I don't even want you in this country, and y'all

711
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: will still run out and buy these motherfucker's products and

712
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: be happy about it.

713
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 4: I look at me, look at me.

714
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: You can't afford this. I don't want that. It's disgusting.

715
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if I ever get one now, Like

716
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: early on before.

717
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: The fact that you don't know if you would get one. Now,

718
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: I think says the pinnacle of the problem. This motherfucker

719
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: does not like you. He wants you a wrap, but

720
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: why give them money?

721
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: But here's well, I guess what I'm saying is that

722
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: when when I first sat in a Tesla, before we

723
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: were years ago, before we were at this point, when

724
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: or Elon became like the massive public figure he was,

725
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: that ship was coole as fuck.

726
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

727
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I'm going to get me one

728
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: of these cars. It was the fucking future.

729
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: Now what I'm looking at, I desire it less than

730
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I once did. I think now I would prefer the

731
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: for lightning, the ev model of that one fifty. Yes,

732
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. It's like, now that there's

733
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: so many different versions of it, for me, I think

734
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: the four f one fifty lightning would be more beneficent.

735
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: It don't stop at ideals for you. It doesn't stop

736
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: at the fact that the owner of this company is

737
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: a white supremacist. That's what bugs me out, Like, why

738
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: does that not stop the desire? I mean, it's almost

739
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: off the desire, but why would that not completely kill

740
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: any idea that I'm ever gonna buy this when the

741
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: owner of the company is a fucking white supremacist. But

742
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: we're still just like, yeah, but the car's.

743
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: Cool because I feel like he's an outright supremacist or whatever.

744
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: So where it's like, am I gonna vet everything that

745
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: I purchased based on that?

746
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I'm not saying that at least as much

747
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: as you can.

748
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I feel you. I feel you.

749
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: But just like Kim was saying, like I didn't, I know,

750
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: You've always been like, Yo, this dude, I'm telling y'all,

751
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: he's this, this and the other. I never thought about

752
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: it that way, and I have my justifications as to

753
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: me the same thing I was about Kanye.

754
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: First of all, already owned the Kanye shoes. Yeah yeah.

755
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: And then with this, like I said, I hadn't said

756
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: outright that I have a Tesla, but at this point,

757
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: y'all know I have a Tesla. I've had it before

758
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: he outright was being who he was. I know Mike

759
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: has always seen it, even though he wasn't being outright

760
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: about it. I had it, And then my justifications that

761
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: I bought it you, So it wasn't direct to him.

762
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: It was through like it's like it's somebody else already

763
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: purchased it, and so I'm just purchasing it from someone else.

764
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: I didn't buy it straight from Tesla. That's always been

765
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: like my justification for even in this state right now.

766
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: The other thing is that.

767
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: He has the best evs.

768
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: It's just that's just what it is, Like like I

769
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: would like to it something else, but he has the

770
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: best product. Is he hands down still has the best

771
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: product when it comes to ev And for me, it's

772
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: been it's been saving me money. It's been it's been

773
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: able to uh help me in different areas with my family.

774
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 3: Like it's the way that I've been able to save.

775
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: It's practical, Like, it's certain things about it that I'm

776
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: still able to get off regardless of who the person is.

777
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: I get all that. The first thing as far as

778
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: buying it us, I'm with you, except you're still a

779
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: driving advertising first part, I got you, So that's the problem.

780
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: The second issue is, yeah, it saves in one area,

781
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: but again it's also like I don't want to sit

782
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: back and everything that we buy is in some way

783
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: going to afstation. It just is, you know, everything we

784
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: spend our money on is going to something that's terrible. Yes,

785
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: but I don't love the idea of just being like, well,

786
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: everything we buy is going to something terrible, so fuck it,

787
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna buy rible ship. When a motherfucker comes

788
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: out and just flat out does a Nazi salute, makes

789
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: so many anti black and racist statements, I'm not buying

790
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: your product. Now, you already had it. You know you

791
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: didn't listen to me, And that's okay. No one knows,

792
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: because I mean, i'd be yelling at me. You know,

793
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: nobody listens to me. I'm talking about now, like after

794
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: all of what happened, right, but after all of this

795
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: stuff has happened, the fact that us as black folks

796
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: are still like I think I might buy one? Why

797
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: because this is this is them looking you in the

798
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: face and being like I don't even want you in

799
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: this country and us being like, okay, but I still

800
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: want to give you money. And my thing is this,

801
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: like those like you said, those trucks away one hundred

802
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: and something thousand dollars or whatever. What do you think

803
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: he's doing with that money. There's no telling. He could

804
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: be taking that money and supporting all kinds of initiatives

805
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: that are further pushing black people into a corner. So

806
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: that's that's my thing. I mean, people can look at

807
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: it as woke or whatever you want to fucking call it,

808
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: but at some point it's common fucking sense. I'm not

809
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: gonna support somebody that wants me eradicated. No I period,

810
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Like like just to.

811
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: Your point, Like, like I once all that stuff started

812
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: coming out about them, I was online looking for something

813
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: to change my car with. I just I just didn't

814
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: feel right driving it. And I was just like, man,

815
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: how can I set up drivers with this man is

816
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: doing all this stuff? So like I started actively looking

817
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: and researching for different what makes the test is one

818
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: of the best.

819
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: Uh just they're just the uh well, their charging system,

820
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: the charging system is the best. Like you can't like

821
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: you have to like people with other evs go to

822
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Tesla stations to charge, like and now they're they're changing

823
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: their cars to be able to fit the Cheslor charging stations.

824
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: But that's newer cars, that's their newer cars or whatever.

825
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: And then like, uh like knowledge he was the first

826
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 3: one to really do it, so he's he's just ahead.

827
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: It's like technology.

828
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: It's like why people feel like iPhones like it's it

829
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: literally feels like when you were sitting in it and

830
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 4: getting in the drive like it's the equivalent of oh,

831
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm used to this iPhone system or whatever it may

832
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: be as to what other one is just like bulkier,

833
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: and it's like too many different controls and like that.

834
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: Everything everybody's trying to get to where he is right now,

835
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: advanced like technology wise, uh and and it just can't

836
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 1: quite quite get it the same. They can't. They can't

837
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: get it the same. Like so, yeah, he's got more money,

838
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: he's got more access, but I mean, just wait, that's

839
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: what I'm doing because I don't have that kind of

840
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: money to spend anyway.

841
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: But even if I did, I just I couldn't do.

842
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of electric vehicle.

843
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, everybody's got an electric Yeah.

844
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: But there's a couple of black companies that are that

845
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 3: are on the rise that that got some really cool

846
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: stuff that I'm that I'm keeping an eye on if it,

847
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: if it gets to the point where it's comparable to it,

848
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 3: I probably will switch over to to some of these places.

849
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: It won't. This pertaining is something you should just a

850
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: second earlier.

851
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: I want to know.

852
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: Just not a gotcha moment, but I want to know,

853
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: so I got It's not because I'm gonna ask me

854
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: the same thing. If if there was a cool, interesting,

855
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: exciting horror movie that came out but it was back

856
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: by Saudi Arabian money, would you go see it?

857
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Still? You know mean enough to know that, No, I'm

858
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: not gonna go see that. Even if you like the

859
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: trailer was exciting, You're just not going to see it.

860
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: I'm surprised you're asking me this.

861
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: You haven't been around. You haven't been around long and

862
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: like that long, but I feel like you'd be around

863
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: long enough to know. I'm not gonna go spend my

864
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: money just so I can see a movie. My thing is.

865
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 1: My thing is this, even if it's performative. My dignity

866
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: is worth more than that. I don't want to Why

867
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: didn't go see that fucking John the major shit?

868
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not doing it.

869
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't need to see a movie that bad or

870
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: I will watch that ship on bootleg. He did a

871
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 1: movie by Naxis.

872
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 3: No no, no, he just all that after stuff came out,

873
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 3: But he probably would be. If the Saudi has brought

874
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: the pistols, which is still support has brought the pistons,

875
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: you wouln't care. Why would they buy the pistons because.

876
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 4: They're trying to They're trying to whitewash thing.

877
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: They want to look like good people opposed to the

878
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: type of country they getting. In sports, It's like they

879
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: bought all them golf players and had them come to

880
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: live and bought a sports.

881
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't even play sports games anymore.

882
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: The worst person. I just wanted to know what be different.

883
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Mike is the main one that stands for things like

884
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: like I do.

885
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 4: Don't.

886
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that, but he openly has like like that,

887
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, like he has super high moral Yeah, yeah,

888
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: yeah I have.

889
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 4: I like to think that I do, but Mike definitely

890
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: has it more than me.

891
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: I never claimed that. Yeah, I like, I know, you know.

892
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying it for you.

893
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: You don't like.

894
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about yourself.

895
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: Acknowledge and people that are listening acknowledges too. I'm just

896
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: I acknowledge it, you know what I'm saying. I like

897
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: to think that I stand for things or whatever, but

898
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 3: Mike is actually in the trenches like with it sometimes

899
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: more than me. But because I like to think that

900
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: I'm righteous or whatever, but I think Mike is way

901
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: more righteous than I am.

902
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: Not contrary you're way more righteous than me. I just yeah,

903
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: we all have. We all have. That's a good way. Yeah,

904
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: none of us are consistent. I feel like being a

905
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: hypocritis being human.

906
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 3: That's that's it, you know what I mean. But I'm

907
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: not driving, and I always try to just I always

908
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: look for justifications.

909
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: I do.

910
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 3: I do, like, damn, why am I doing this? But

911
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: I do ask myself the questions or whatever. But I

912
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 3: don't think I could just go back to a car too.

913
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: That's it's man, it's God, you know what.

914
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: Look, I went to it.

915
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: I went to a talk yesterday by and I wish

916
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I had knew I was gonna talk about this, that

917
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: I would have brought their names. I forgot his damn already.

918
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: But it was a it was a anarchists discussion, and

919
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: it was I was expecting these to be too young

920
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: Jalen's age ass black people, but no, it was two

921
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: seventy something year old ex black Panthers. And when I

922
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: tell y'all, I was like this the whole time. This

923
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: is the best thing I said. And this when it

924
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: came to the Q and a time, this young black

925
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: kid got up there and he said, I have a

926
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: job it's a good job. I don't want to lose

927
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: my job, but they gave me this thing where it's

928
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: like I have to sign it, and by signing it,

929
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: they're basically saying like any kind of you know, activist

930
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: talk or any kind of edgy talk, I could lose

931
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: my job. So he's like, since y'all have been there,

932
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: one of these brothers went to jail for this type

933
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: of shit. It was in jail for years and came

934
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: out and wrote a book about black anarchism. And he

935
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: was like, can you explain to me, like your take

936
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: on this, what would you do? And the guy was like, look,

937
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: you have to consider if this job is worth everything

938
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: that you'd be sacrificing when it comes to your morals.

939
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: And he's like, that's all I can tell you. He's like,

940
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: I can't tell you, as a man that you should

941
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: just lose your life exactly right. I can't tell you that.

942
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: And if that's what you're looking for, you've come to

943
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: the wrong place. But he's like, these are questions you

944
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself. No one can answer that point.

945
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: Is this worth you sacrificing your morals? If the answer

946
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: is no, you gotta cut it. If the answer is yes,

947
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: you stick it out and hope nothing happens. But that's

948
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: really all there is to it. So that's how I

949
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: look at all of this stuff.

950
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: Is it worth it to you?

951
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: Maybe not? Is it worth it to me? Maybe it's

952
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: different people, different standards. I don't I try not to

953
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: judge people, but I'm not gonna lie. I do. If

954
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm in traffic and I'm mother fucking a tesla's trying

955
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: to come out.

956
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: Nope, I speed up.

957
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: I do it all the time. That's fucked up. I'll

958
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: let people out, but no if you a tesla, if

959
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: you're a Tesla or a BMW, I speed up. I

960
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: don't let you. But yeah, I mean, it's just it's

961
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: really a matter of how I think people need to understand,

962
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: like morals are not universal and some of them, you know,

963
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to sus these kind of things out.

964
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: But I do want to close this out with the

965
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: we got off track with what she was bringing up.

966
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: She said that you know, she did it because you know,

967
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: like I was saying that I have hurt women just like,

968
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: oh man, it's like this experience is just it's not

969
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: a fun one. Whatever.

970
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: But there was some pushback on it. Some one person said,

971
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 3: it's not a miserable process. It's part of our culture

972
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 3: and keeps the community going. I don't want a machine

973
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: near my head. Another person said, sad brading was time

974
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: spent with my mother to daughter to build a relationship

975
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: and to communicate with Daughter's just another way to remove

976
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: the process.

977
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: So I'm talking. So that was just Look. There was

978
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: another no, no, you can't know that is right, but

979
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: that's not a shop. Though it's not a shop.

980
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: This machine is going to be in the shop or

981
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: she's selling it would be in a shop, right, So

982
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: what she's talking about this process of her, Oh, it's

983
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: a way for me to bond with my daughters.

984
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: You're doing you're at home doing, yeah.

985
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: But you might be bonding with somebody else in your community.

986
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: Like there was another talk that I would do yesterday

987
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: that was about the importance of physical media and they

988
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: were discussing books and there was a black woman because

989
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: all of them were black, that were on the stage,

990
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: and she was talking about how she will never get

991
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: rid of her bootlegs because even if y'all know, back

992
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: in the day, when you buy bootleg and sometime you

993
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: get a home and ain't not noninally yeah, she was

994
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 1: like she was like, I'm not gonna get rid of those,

995
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: and someone might look at that as being a horder,

996
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: but she looks at it like, no, I'm keeping these

997
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: things because this reminds me of this culture, because bootlegging

998
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: was part of black culture. And the other person was like, yeah,

999
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: and I have all of these home movies that my

1000
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: grandmother filmed and my granddad filmed first when he got

1001
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: a video camera, and then they were like, they were like,

1002
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: we digitized them, but I kept the originals because you

1003
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: could lose the digitals. Or if somebody just send you

1004
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: something digital, you're gonna forget within a year or two

1005
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: who sent that to you. But if someone hands you

1006
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: a record, or hand you a CD, or hand you

1007
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: a VHS tape, you're gonna remember.

1008
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: I remember when I was at.

1009
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: The shoot and B gave me that fucking VHS tape.

1010
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: This is important a CD.

1011
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this beans oh from

1012
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: anti pop consortion. It was it was a white it

1013
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: was in a white co oh yeah yeah yeah a

1014
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 3: EP yeah yeah. I gave me that years ago. I

1015
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember that.

1016
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: I still I remember that, but you you wouldn't remember that. Yeah.

1017
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, I Mike gave it this

1018
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: years ago. That was way before, like he gave me

1019
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: a burnt blue CD.

1020
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: I came in with. But y'all, y'all, y'all proven my point,

1021
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: not your argument.

1022
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 6: You know, my wife still climbing because I still have

1023
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 6: my I have a VCR. She's like, why you still

1024
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 6: got this thing?

1025
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: I have all my.

1026
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: Christmas videos and my dad used to record I got,

1027
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: I got.

1028
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: All my basketball games when I was like ten and

1029
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 6: eleven years old, like on v Like, I still have

1030
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 6: a box with the VHS is labeled and ship on there.

1031
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm keeping these. She was like, get rid

1032
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: of it. I'm not.

1033
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: It's keeping my VCR and I'm keeping my tapes.

1034
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not getting rid of this. We we devalue

1035
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: how important those kinds of things are, and once we

1036
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: get to this all digital space, we're gonna lose all

1037
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: of these memories and all of these connections we had

1038
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 1: to this physical stuff. So yeah, I'm with those people.

1039
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: I've never had to. I mean, I've went and got

1040
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: my hair done a couple of times. I just don't

1041
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: like people touching on my hair, so I just don't

1042
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: do it. So I just come in here looking like shit.

1043
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: But like I get what they're saying. I sit there

1044
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: for eight hours, But that is part of the culture.

1045
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: You go there and you sit there for eight hours,

1046
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: you talk exactly.

1047
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 4: It's like you said, you.

1048
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Gotta look at it like this.

1049
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 6: With some woman, a working woman, that might be the

1050
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 6: only time they can spend with their daughter that part two.

1051
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They might be working two

1052
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: jobs part two.

1053
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 5: And then it's like, Okay, this weekend, I get to

1054
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: brave my daughter for eight hours.

1055
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna talking about We're we're letting AI completely vanity episodes.

1056
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah with Sidney. Yeah see, y'all gonna learn. Man. Yeah,

1057
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: I just want to put one day when the white

1058
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: parients has murdered me, y'all gonna look back at all

1059
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: the stupid ship that I said and be like, man,

1060
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: we laughed at Miket Membory talked about, you know.

1061
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 3: It's one hundred percent something to that what you're saying.

1062
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 3: I grew up around my great grandmother and we used

1063
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: to tease her because every time someone came over, she

1064
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: would break out the photol and just pointing the pictures

1065
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: and telling people.

1066
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 4: Like it would be the insurance man.

1067
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: She's like, look at these pictures.

1068
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: Don't nobody want to see that?

1069
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: And like there usued to be pictures on like on

1070
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: the mantle and stuff like that, but you don't see

1071
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: that them all your pictures on your phone and they

1072
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 3: don't mean as much.

1073
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: And they have the digital photo books.

1074
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just digitize.

1075
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: The most important thing though, you heard her tell them

1076
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: stories and you memorize them. I bet you know those

1077
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: stories word for word now because Grandma told them stories

1078
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: so many times because of.

1079
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: That book and it meant it meant something to her

1080
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 4: to show yes.

1081
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: And then when Grandma is gone, you'll be able to

1082
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 1: recite those stories because you heard them so many times. Yeah, man,

1083
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Hey, I man still get my photo album,

1084
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: get to ship the funk out.

1085
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 4: I still got photos to Yeah, I got two books.

1086
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 6: I got to I got a brown and a red

1087
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 6: one with just all I mean, my mother used to

1088
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 6: be documented like from the day I was born, like

1089
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 6: my picture like she my sister likes this page by page.

1090
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh that was such and such, that was such and

1091
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: such like Yeah, my mom. Still every time I go

1092
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: over the house is a new picture I've never seen before. Really,

1093
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: was your little best friend Keith is Keith? I don't

1094
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: remember Keith, but then you start the picture long enough

1095
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he busted me in the head with

1096
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: a rock and busting my head open. I remember Keith.

1097
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: He didn't mean to man.

1098
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: There were.

1099
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: Speaking I know, we got it, you know, conversations, but

1100
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: uh man, I was. I was going home one day,

1101
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: this remind me about the rock thing, and it was

1102
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: a bunch of like, Okay, so there's a circle and

1103
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: it's one way, so you have to go right to

1104
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 2: go around.

1105
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: So when I got home from what was it soccer

1106
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: practice or whatever, the police were in the front yard.

1107
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: They were in the circle and nope, it was Thursday.

1108
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 3: It was Thursday when I came up here. Yeap, when

1109
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 3: I went back because I had to take Miles to

1110
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: soccer practice. So I got home and the police were

1111
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 3: out there, and I was like, I'm gonna go see

1112
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: what's going on.

1113
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 4: So I walked in because I parked in the back

1114
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: and this.

1115
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: Lady was driving the wrong way.

1116
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: I was the wrong way, wrong way or whatever, but

1117
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: she had to because the police had the had the

1118
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: street block, so everybody that was coming in trying to

1119
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: go right had to turn around and go left.

1120
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: It was a bunch of kids out there. It was

1121
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: like at least seven or eight kids out there. They

1122
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 3: were throwing shit at cars.

1123
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: And I thought over her like vandalism was some shit

1124
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: like that, And me and the boys went out there

1125
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: because my neighborhood, I want to see what the fuck

1126
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: going on. Got to Yeah, so I was like, yeah, so,

1127
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: uh so we all just walked out there and uh

1128
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: and the cops are over there looking at us and

1129
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: this that, and and I was sitting like, first of all,

1130
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm a father here with about two sons, so they

1131
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: can look all they want. They can't say shit because

1132
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: we're in a public soccer field. We're not going over there.

1133
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: But even if we did want to go over there

1134
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: and just stand and watch.

1135
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: We have the right to do that, I said.

1136
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: But but yeah, they were just out there just doing

1137
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: dumb ship. And the cops, it was a mixture of

1138
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: black and white, were just saying, oh, y'all doing this.

1139
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: Was kind of just scolding them. But I don't think

1140
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: they're arresting him anything like that.

1141
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: But I think they were just kind of telling them, like,

1142
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: don't be doing that stupid ass ship because I saw

1143
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 3: a beer bottle busting on the ground and ship like that.

1144
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: Somebody gotta get all that ship.

1145
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 1: Up or whatever.

1146
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 4: But that reminded me of some dumb ship I used

1147
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 4: to do.

1148
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: We did, I did it. I don't know why didn't.

1149
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: That's just what I'm thinking. That is he telling the

1150
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: story like that was so somebody hopped out.

1151
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: On us neighborhood, in your own neighborhood. Yeah, it was,

1152
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: of course.

1153
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 3: You know his kids, you think like there is no

1154
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: red rhyme maroon boy, just like I gonna throw a

1155
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 3: rock at this car, And as an adult, just imagine

1156
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 3: that happened to like you know where she comes from, Spike,

1157
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: Like people daring you to do ship, you know, you

1158
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 3: get caught up in some dumb ship. And so yeah,

1159
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: I think that's what happened. That's the only reason I

1160
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: would have think I would have did that, like like

1161
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 3: throw a rock.

1162
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: Just gone somewhere. Somebody just ships off the street.

1163
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 7: He's gonna tag him on rocks at your car? Bro,

1164
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 7: why do you throwing rocks because your wife friendship like that?

1165
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 7: But but yeah, I was like, so you can knocking

1166
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 7: people dose and run.

1167
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: Less fun fun knocking and running, but knowing you would

1168
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: be as an adul it happened.

1169
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: Laugh.

1170
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 1: I get mad, but then I laugh at all unless

1171
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: it's late night. If it's late at night, I might

1172
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: get nobody can't spy. Somebody came and not my real

1173
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: over bro, and took the off. Bro.

1174
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: When I tell you, I walked outside and I was

1175
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: just yelling. I was like, I gotta gun bring you.

1176
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: As I hopped in my fucking car. Bro, Nah, stay

1177
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: the funk away from my fucking house. I want to

1178
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 3: be We always had that neighbor right, Get off my lawn.

1179
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: You don't know that's mister Johnson house. Don't go to

1180
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: mister Johnson.

1181
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: Everybody's mister Johnson in the neighborhood.

1182
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: Get off.

1183
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: I want to be that house. Do not go to

1184
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: mister inch house. Go to the nest because he coming out,

1185
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: gonna come out.

1186
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't do it. Pick another one. Hell yeah, real quick.

1187
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: Since I I had forgotten their names, I wouldn't found

1188
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: it real quick. It's Janina and Lorenzo Irvin, and they

1189
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: both wrote books on uh their time as black panthers.

1190
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: One of their time in jail learning about what black

1191
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: anarchism is. So y'all should definitely go check them out,

1192
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: especially they're and they're in Atlanta. They're in Atlanta.

1193
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 3: I think it's unfortunate that we don't really have those

1194
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: groups anymore. Groups like the Black Panthers.

1195
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: There's still Black Panthers, but no, I'm with can. It's

1196
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: kind of a it's changed something else, especially because the

1197
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: Black Panthers had such a bad connotation for people that

1198
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: didn't understand what the Black Panthers were about. So, but

1199
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: they've they've they've transitioned, there's other groups, it's new forms.

1200
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I feel yeah. I thought it was something

1201
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: that showed up the Stile Mountain. Are those people with

1202
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 3: the no response to.

1203
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: The cat the name black Panther. It wasn't Black Panthers,

1204
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: but they were basically black. Yeah, they showed up with guns.

1205
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: They're like, look, y'all can do this ship, We can

1206
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: do And the whole point was to see if the

1207
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: cops show up and tell them to leave, because then

1208
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: it would be like, well, you didn't make the white

1209
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: people leave and they're in fucking clan roads, so why

1210
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: how come we can't. I was so happy and see

1211
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: that ship. I don't like guns and all that, but

1212
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I like the message y'all said, we

1213
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: can do what y'all can do.

1214
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we just got to remember that ship.

1215
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 2: Like this ship ain't one side that they may make

1216
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: it seem that way.

1217
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: It's not. But let's talk about one side. In the NBA.

1218
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 3: Bro huge NBA gambling sting hit the NBA got players, coaches,

1219
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: Uh talk about tim Yeah. Yeah, it was very intentional. Yeah,

1220
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: they definitely plans all this. Yeah, because they wanted the

1221
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: biggest story. They wanted to hit the air waves, et cetera,

1222
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: et cetera.

1223
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

1224
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, connected to legal better rooms. You got Chauncey

1225
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: Billups who was involved in uh car art. Well, they're

1226
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: playing poker something like the cards from Marked. He had

1227
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 3: glasses that could see the market X ray table. Terry

1228
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: Roger was accused of.

1229
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 1: As well.

1230
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 4: No, Terry wasn't in the car game, not the card game.

1231
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, he peddled information, him and Damon Jones, repelling information,

1232
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: letting people know like inside of trading that like Terroy

1233
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: was for example, said he was going to go out

1234
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 4: earlier with an injury.

1235
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: Then he let anybody else know.

1236
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: And what's interesting that now that people are putting connected

1237
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: to some dots is that he didn't play another game

1238
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 2: that season.

1239
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: Didn't think. Yeah, so I read that he faked the injury.

1240
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: Is that not true? Yeah? Yeah he did. Oh he

1241
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: faked did fake the injury? Wow, he let him know that,

1242
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: He let somebody know that he was going to do that.

1243
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, its going to fake an injury.

1244
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: That's you know what's stupid about this is that that

1245
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: ship Prince And what I mean by that is that

1246
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: and that's how they got busted. When you're Terry Roger

1247
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: and you go out and say I'm gonna, you know,

1248
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 3: fake it injury and you tell people and all of

1249
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: the money shifts to this one thing. It's printing PNT. Yes,

1250
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: it's a clear sign that something is a miss something.

1251
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: And they can pick up on it and they shut

1252
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: it down.

1253
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: Like I think they shut that beat down because they've

1254
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: seen all the money coming in on it was like

1255
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 3: nah something right, yeah.

1256
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1257
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 3: In the market, like you can see every single transaction,

1258
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: everything is tracked.

1259
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 4: You know, you're seeing it. They call it volume.

1260
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: So if you see a massive spike in volume, it's like, oh,

1261
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: something one way or the other. Whereas it is buying

1262
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: or selling, somebody knows something that got some type of

1263
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: insider trading information and people are trading on that activity.

1264
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: It's the same thing that happens here. Every single thing

1265
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: is tracked. So you cannot get away with that, especially

1266
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: if Terry fucking wrote here, is.

1267
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: He like really really popular? Oh he's not.

1268
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: He could play but in mid level with yeah, and

1269
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: he was on the decline. So if if all the

1270
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: money starts leaning towards.

1271
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: Him, oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, it's like

1272
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: stupid as hell. What makes you think you're going to

1273
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: get away with that dumb ass ship?

1274
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: So so so it's bad.

1275
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: I think the thing we you know, you guys are

1276
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: mentioned in the in the group chat sports group chat,

1277
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: and I was actually having a conversation with my wife

1278
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: about this too, is that it's.

1279
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: All about the NBA player. That's what I don't like,

1280
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 3: and then it's less about the mod bro. I didn't

1281
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: even know what it was still around.

1282
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: It was thirty people that got arrested was still around never.

1283
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: Ever, I know that.

1284
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 4: But it's because they never get coverage.

1285
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: That is crazy. That ship is just assumed that exactly

1286
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: that I was.

1287
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like right, I sold. The five families are

1288
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: still and they just transitioned. Like, Bro, we've been like chilling,

1289
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: and now y'all go out and do this second.

1290
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: We get you all negroes involved. Look what happens and

1291
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: should have stayed betting on hockey. Yeah, Like.

1292
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: Whatever happened was definitely some Sopranos ship. Spike, Yeah, I remember,

1293
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: like so they had an example of it on the Sopranos.

1294
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember when they had their

1295
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: card game and Lawrence Taylor was there and I haven't

1296
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 2: made it that far yet, it's not a spoiling Lawrence

1297
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: Taylor was there and what's the.

1298
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: Junior?

1299
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the dude dropped yea that that that

1300
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 4: whole thing. Taylor was at the table.

1301
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: I even knew him. I remember the one Frank Sinatra junior. Yeah,

1302
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: if shows up on Sopranos, you should assume that somebody

1303
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: important to go look him up.

1304
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 4: It's probably a famous person.

1305
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: That's Mike.

1306
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 3: I watched the one with the Counselman when they came

1307
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: in and with the projects and ship the houses.

1308
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: Bro, Mike, I'm like you, Bro, this ship is infuriated

1309
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: that that The Sopranos is a very racius show. God,

1310
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: black people like it so much because it's mafia. You know,

1311
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: black people love mafia shows. Oh my god.

1312
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: Anyway, but to that that to the point, and they

1313
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 3: made that point in the show, like the head was, Oh,

1314
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 3: Frank Snatcha Jr. Is going to be there and Lawrence

1315
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 3: Taylor's gonna be there. So that's what they did with

1316
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: Chouncey Billips and the chance of getting people there that

1317
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 3: were riching success. Hey, Chouncey Billups gonna be at the game.

1318
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: And then that's how they use him as marks. And

1319
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 3: they were saying that that Chouncey Billins wasn't well. His

1320
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: wife said that I don't know, she know, but she

1321
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 3: said that he wasn't involved in that he's a man of.

1322
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Entergy, etcetera, etcetera.

1323
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: I think there were other people kind of saying that

1324
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: they were surprised that he was involved. But I think,

1325
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: who is that that's doing all the snitching? Give a renas?

1326
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: Is that true or y'all just kind of he just

1327
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: he trolled, he just because he had got I think

1328
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: he had got like him.

1329
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 6: The next day, but he was out celebrating talking about

1330
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 6: some and he was saying on social media like if

1331
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 6: they if they tell me this, he sitch telling everybody

1332
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 6: to be clear.

1333
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah he said it. He was like like,

1334
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: I got this finance wife at home. Hell am stitching.

1335
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody I love this.

1336
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: Agree with wife. He can be high integrity. He may

1337
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: not have known what was going on. They could have

1338
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: just used him if he wearing the glasses. You know,

1339
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: did they say he was wearing the glasses?

1340
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 4: I think I thought they said that.

1341
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: I thought that those were used in the game. My

1342
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 3: my thought process is they just used his name to

1343
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: get the people in the door. And I ain't if

1344
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm ching bills, I don't know. Y'all laughing, y'all got

1345
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 3: going on cheating people out of their money.

1346
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: Well cash for tells involve they're gonna get away, He's yeah,

1347
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: the MAM's gonna make a call or something.

1348
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: Bro Like.

1349
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 4: To me, that was the most fascinating part about this story.

1350
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: The fucking mafia. Bro, we ever heard the moms got

1351
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: real change moving silence, like the working behind the.

1352
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 5: Scenes Maia since Gotti. Bro, Yeah, I knew they were

1353
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: still around.

1354
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: They still got shipped like they got websites and ship

1355
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: dedicated to like letting you know who runs all the

1356
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: five families and stuff. Absolutely, it's people just into that ship,

1357
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: like like real deal with Pablo Toire type ship. Like

1358
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: they got the websites, have to tell you this guy

1359
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: is the captain of this family. They investigation is like

1360
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: up to date, like for.

1361
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: So, why isn't this covered? And okay, I guess there.

1362
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 4: It's popular in the mainstream no moment. It's the mafia.

1363
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 4: It's crime, it's white crime, it's organized crime. What you're

1364
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: talking about.

1365
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: They got ties and so much ship. Bro, they kill

1366
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: you And how many people that Tony Man don't killed.

1367
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: He never went to jail killing.

1368
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 4: Black He went to pay black people to do it.

1369
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: Now you got a couple people on his own. Motherfucker.

1370
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait to get this ship over it.

1371
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: Bro.

1372
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so irritating anyway, But yeah, I

1373
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: thought this was kind of crazy. So but the thing

1374
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 3: about it is that this is gonna happen, Like you're

1375
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: introducing gambling to sports and all of these idiots are

1376
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,439
Speaker 3: getting said getting their careers taken away from a couple

1377
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars. You're making so much money theoretically

1378
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: because the taxes eat into it, like whatever the contract is,

1379
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: they get happening the taxes. But still, but it's kind

1380
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 3: of it's kind of crazy. Here's the part that I

1381
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: saw online that I thought was interesting, And this was

1382
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: always kind of suspected, And said, Jordan, what about.

1383
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 4: They made him take those years off of baseball because

1384
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 4: he was gambling.

1385
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, was like, yeah, just go ahead and just lay

1386
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 6: loaf for a couple of years ago, go play baseball

1387
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 6: because we know that's your second love.

1388
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 4: What was it two years? Yeah, it was suspended for

1389
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 4: two years for gambling.

1390
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that.

1391
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that's the that's the conspiracy behind it.

1392
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 5: That conspiracy about that's why his dad got.

1393
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 4: Killed because I heard about that.

1394
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that was all around the same time frame, right, Yes,

1395
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 2: I thought those things were separate. Those are tidy and

1396
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: and if you look at what happened with Terry Roseier,

1397
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: he never played another game.

1398
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: They pulled him from the rest of the season.

1399
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan's exactly, Yeah, just go ahead and take a

1400
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 5: couple of years off.

1401
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1402
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 5: We're just we'll cover it up this way. We'll say

1403
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 5: this and whatever whatever.

1404
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's saying the NBA knew about it, about

1405
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 2: that ship too. Yeah, so I think it gives cretis.

1406
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: And then the other added part and I read this

1407
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: book to remember the referee that wrote that book.

1408
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Donnege, Yeah, yeah, yep, yes, he said that ship

1409
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 4: was happening.

1410
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: He everybody.

1411
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 4: I heard him on the podcast. You go into detail.

1412
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: He was like, like the little tic tac files and

1413
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 3: things that nature like that, that's the referee trying to

1414
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: swing in the game.

1415
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: Like a free throw.

1416
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 3: Hell free throw there don't seem like much, but then

1417
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: you get to the end of it and they've done

1418
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: this so much and yeah, you could sway the game.

1419
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: And Rashie Wallace said he called him out on it.

1420
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: Roshie Wallace was like, I used to tell him. He's like,

1421
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 3: you ain't got to make it so blatant, bro, you

1422
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: know what you're doing out here. So it made you

1423
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 3: think all this ship is fake.

1424
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Like I said that. I said that. I said that

1425
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: in the chail like man, sport is sportsh it is fake.

1426
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: But to that point, I don't disagree with you, but

1427
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna make people start watching wrestling

1428
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 3: more popular than it ever being. You know, it's not

1429
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 3: gonna know, I'm just saying, but that's known to be

1430
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: over the years that it wasn't you know, fake.

1431
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: They're still doing the stuff. I mean, so it's fake

1432
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: to a degree, but it was more outcome. It's determined.

1433
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like determined, like okay, underscripted being pretty much scripted.

1434
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 3: Like they don't put it out that sports like football

1435
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: and basketball are scripted.

1436
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 4: Point it's always been suspected, and then you you now make.

1437
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: It like more widely known that we're just gonna be

1438
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: partnering with these these organizations. And the suspicions and accusations

1439
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: that people have had over the years, now you're getting

1440
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: more evidence to support your theories.

1441
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1442
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: So it's easy when Tim Dona, who writes a book

1443
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: and and you know, they can come out with this

1444
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: massive pr campaign and squash it.

1445
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: Right.

1446
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 3: People can have their theories about what happened to Michael Jordan,

1447
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 3: and then you have this happen.

1448
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 4: Now you can start really connect put some dots and

1449
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: start looking back.

1450
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: So moving forward, what that what what I was thinking

1451
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 3: about is you people will now question every fucking thing.

1452
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, football everything. It ain't just gonna be basketball.

1453
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: Now.

1454
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 3: I want to see how Adam Silver was gonna have

1455
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: to speak in front of Congress before the thirty first yep.

1456
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: I want to see how hard they go on him

1457
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 3: with the question how do you ref a game now

1458
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 3: without without you know, people thinking that it's fake? Yes,

1459
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 3: same thing with football. We Cavin Ridley and some other guys. Yeah,

1460
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 3: what happened when a kicker misses a chip chop chip

1461
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 3: shot field goal? A receiver that's known to catch football

1462
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 3: really really well just happen to make a drop. Every

1463
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 3: single thing. And then if you look at the betting

1464
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 3: line and the betting line starts, Bro, you're gonna question

1465
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 3: every thing.

1466
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: Bro.

1467
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: The integrity I think of sports is up for grabs here.

1468
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1469
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know that is that is. But

1470
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 4: I've always suspected.

1471
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: Some shit, like some shit that was going down, and

1472
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck is they finish?

1473
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 3: To help circumvent that, They're gonna stop those player prop bits.

1474
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna cut that, Like you're not gonna

1475
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,839
Speaker 3: be able to bet on a player like Terry Rozier

1476
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 3: scoring under fifteen points in the game, like they're only

1477
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: gonna focus on the stars now, I believe. I think

1478
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 3: that's how they're gonna circumvent it, Like because people pay

1479
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: so much attention now team like football. You used to

1480
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: pay attention with fantasy, but now you've got apps like

1481
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: Draftking a fan due. It's like such and such gets

1482
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 3: forty two point five yards and then you looking at

1483
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: it and you want him to get the ball.

1484
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 4: He don't get the ball for two quarters. It's like, Bro,

1485
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: that don't usually happen.

1486
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: Now, now that I'm betting on him and took the

1487
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 3: underheat on, like people pay so much attention to it,

1488
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 3: I think they're just gonna cut that shit out.

1489
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1490
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 4: Is that in line with what un A B were

1491
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 4: talking about last night?

1492
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1493
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, Like you ain't gonna be able bet on

1494
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 3: like the dude that got put out of the league

1495
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 3: for Michael Porter, whether John Tey Porter, Like they were

1496
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 3: saying like most unders saying like why why would he

1497
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: even be on the betting line, Like why can't I

1498
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: bet that John Tey Porter is gonna score six points?

1499
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 1: That shouldn't even be a thing, Like no one knows.

1500
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: He said, we should only be popular.

1501
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 3: Popular people like Steph Curry that there's no incentate for

1502
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: Steph Curry to do this, so yeah, throw him on

1503
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 3: that there's no one centate for Lebron James to do

1504
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 3: this because they they their brand is bigger than this.

1505
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 3: They don't want to be tied to any scandal like that.

1506
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 3: But you John little two tier two like you somebody

1507
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 3: like that.

1508
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 4: You can make an extra hundred thousand, or you can

1509
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 4: make your homework fifty sixty grand.

1510
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: Y'all do it.

1511
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 4: That's wow, Mike's board. Let's move on.

1512
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: Uh nah, yeah, yeah, we're good.

1513
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: Uh, because we have some more stuff to discuss before

1514
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 3: we have to wrap up. Anyway, we were just talking.

1515
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 3: We were talking about fights and stuff earlier in the

1516
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: Patreon episode and apparently, uh, this is a crazy story.

1517
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: Uh, somebody got shot overholding a door.

1518
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 3: A woman in Dallas was shot and killed after a

1519
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 3: minor argument in the store, reportedly overholding a door. Police

1520
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 3: said the dispute escalated quickly, showing how small acts disrespect

1521
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 3: to turning fatal.

1522
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: And I from what I was reading, she kind of

1523
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 1: followed around in the store and.

1524
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: Then they took it outside to the parking lot and

1525
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 3: then this moment Winter came and and and shot her

1526
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: and killed her, which was unfortunate. That's kind of crazy

1527
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: to be that angry to come back and kill somebody.

1528
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, it happens, It wouldn't clear

1529
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 3: to me. I don't know if y'all seen it. So

1530
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 3: the lady held the door for another woman and her daughter. Yes,

1531
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: and the lady that held the door got mad because

1532
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 3: they didn't say sorry. That's what I got up from it. Yes,

1533
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: And then the lady that held the door continued to

1534
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 3: fall and rate them. They fought, and the lady held

1535
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: the door shot the other lady.

1536
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's that's because I read the opposite the

1537
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: first time, But then every other story read it that.

1538
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: Way, right, she's the one that kill them.

1539
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: Yes, she said you're not gonna say thank you or whatever,

1540
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: and the other dad they didn't say thank you. She

1541
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: followed them into Pet Smart, yelled at them in Pet Smart.

1542
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: They came outside, and I guess one of them got

1543
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: in the car and was trying to leave, But then

1544
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 1: the one that held the door was like trying to

1545
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: fuck the mother in the car. She got out of

1546
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: the car for whatever fucking reason, and they fought Rod

1547
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: don't get out of the car. I know, And yeah,

1548
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: because I don't want to hear no story about none

1549
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: of y'all going out like this. This just fucking walk away.

1550
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,640
Speaker 1: It's hard when you're there, it's not hard for me, dog,

1551
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: because I don't know what people got.

1552
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 3: You would stop yourself from you would stop yourself from

1553
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 3: getting there.

1554
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: I think is different. No, you know that's one thing.

1555
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: Y'all know me well enough to know I'm ana yell.

1556
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm a yelling scream and mad.

1557
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: But you you would, you would, but you would talk

1558
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: sense or to yourself. I guess maybe it's what I'm saying.

1559
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: I would probably be able to calm myself down, because,

1560
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: especially depending on what you look like, certain people just

1561
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: look like they carrying some ship, you know what I mean. Like,

1562
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: if I'm look at her photo, she's you know, which

1563
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have clocked it with her. I

1564
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: would have got fooled. But when I look at certain people,

1565
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm just like, nah, you look you look a little

1566
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: too confident to be your size. Here's the thing.

1567
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: If somebody's following you around Mike for a couple of stores,

1568
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: I would assume you got something you gotta be like,

1569
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: all right, you know what you got it exactly. You're

1570
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 3: that angry that you're trailing me, fussing at me, cussing

1571
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 3: me out. So yes, I don't owe you no thank you,

1572
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: like I understand that party is because that's who I am,

1573
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 3: but I don't owe you no thank you, especially for

1574
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 3: you to follow me. Right.

1575
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 4: If I was a district attorney, I would charge her.

1576
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: She's gonna get charged, you know what I'm saying. You know,

1577
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: they might try to say old self defense because they

1578
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: fault or whatever. It may be, like, nah, that was

1579
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: third degree murderers at the best, you might get mass definitely.

1580
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 4: If that person follows you out of the store and

1581
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 4: it's just smart.

1582
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 3: I'm petty king. That may make me not say sorry

1583
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: even more like I owe you no fucking sorry for

1584
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 3: people do it to me, like I ain't gonna chase

1585
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 3: you around so you can't do like now you don't

1586
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 3: think that person is crazy, but I'm.

1587
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: Not submitting to your crazy. Now you want to get crazy,

1588
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: like I'm not worrying for crazy.

1589
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 4: I ain't doing for crazy either. I'm being exaggeratory, but.

1590
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh you know, sorry, somebody follow you out out of

1591
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: talk you know you won't be a target out of

1592
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: costco into game stop because you just say thank you.

1593
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 4: At what point do you disengage? But like, you know

1594
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: what this sums off with this bub right.

1595
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got it, you wit king, like you

1596
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: should do it to deep escalate the situation, but premise

1597
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: of it, it's like, come on, bro, like people rude

1598
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 3: all day every day, Like, get over it.

1599
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: You talking.

1600
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's logical. I agree with everything you're saying

1601
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 1: on a logical level, but just on a practical reality.

1602
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 4: Level, y'all.

1603
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely, this isn't a logical situation, like we're trying to

1604
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: help you. I would really hate to see anybody go

1605
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: out like this over thank you. I dated anything like this,

1606
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, you really stop? Yes, because I

1607
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: used to always tell her you're not gonna get your

1608
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: ass whooped. I am so knock this ship off. She

1609
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: would do this ship with grown men, and I get it,

1610
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it would be stupid pilly ship.

1611
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: Like we're walking on the sidewalking. Granted this is a

1612
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: pet peeve of mine too. If it's two, the sidewalk

1613
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: is big enough for two people and you see two

1614
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: people coming towards you.

1615
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 4: And y'all are coming.

1616
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 1: Y'all got a single file and so we can both pass.

1617
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: She would get mad if the other couple doesn't do that,

1618
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, let it go. It's not that

1619
01:17:55,320 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 1: it's not Yes, there are some fuck asses, sure, but

1620
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: it's not worth me. How did you get in the

1621
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: fight over this? They're not gonna pop you in the face.

1622
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to fight, so just stop. Who cares? Ken?

1623
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 1: Ken cannot saying it because he do the same ship.

1624
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 4: No, I don't know. I'm thinking about the jal story.

1625
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. Oh, Patre Patriot was the first thing

1626
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: I thought about what he's saying that. I'm just thinking.

1627
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: I got about twelve jokes. But I can't do it

1628
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: if he's not here, you know, right, If I can't,

1629
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, I can be able to look him in

1630
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: the face tell these jokes.

1631
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 4: Aron, and somebody was following you around. I can't see

1632
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 4: Rock going out like this.

1633
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no no.

1634
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 4: Robin just said thank you. Yeah, but if he just

1635
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 4: was he just happened to not say it, they start

1636
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: bugging out on you.

1637
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine myself in that situation because

1638
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: I will just say think. I'm like, I'm sorry, Like

1639
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: what I mean, what do you want me to do?

1640
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 4: But what if they said, you're not gonna what the fuck?

1641
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: They say that that's a good point.

1642
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. That made me thank you even more that

1643
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 3: that damn you ain't gonna say thank you? That it

1644
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 3: was probably really aggressive. I ain't gonna say thank you.

1645
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: You acknowledge it.

1646
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 1: I would have. I would have still just been like,

1647
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: oh my bad, I'm sorry after somebody say damn.

1648
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 4: Because they say that that you hear how many times

1649
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 4: you heard that?

1650
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: That's a lot.

1651
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say a lot.

1652
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: Thank you? Always aggressive aggressive, you owe me gratitude. Yeah.

1653
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: I stopped for a minute and think, oh ship, I

1654
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: didn't say thank you. They held the door for me.

1655
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: That was really kind of them. I'm gonna say thank you.

1656
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: The reason I think that way is because I get

1657
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: mad as fuck when I hold the door for somebody

1658
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: and they don't say thank you, or if i'm really

1659
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: that infuriates me, or if I'm at a at a

1660
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: clothing store but I don't, I just let it go.

1661
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm under my breath like act like I didn't do it.

1662
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 1: It's funny like I was in a similar situation before.

1663
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: It was Dom's party. When he came to Don's party,

1664
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:07,719
Speaker 1: you just bought the toys.

1665
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 4: He's probably probably doing something.

1666
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you were there.

1667
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 4: You found that little raggy ass toy.

1668
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't think you came. The toy was actually fired.

1669
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: It took better of being a fire toys to get

1670
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: the toys I already do. He was thoughtful with the toys.

1671
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Say thank you. I like, damn, you

1672
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say thank you.

1673
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 4: Take the take then that wasn't beat me up to

1674
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 4: take a dog man was crazy.

1675
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it was at the It was this last

1676
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: party was at uh at the cv BS.

1677
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 3: You knew where it was, Yeah, Stevie Bees, like and

1678
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 3: we had you know, we got a little section and

1679
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 3: Stevie Bee's or whatever. And I had put his cake

1680
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 3: on a table that you know, had like the receipt

1681
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 3: or whatever still on the TABN like, okay, that person left.

1682
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: The person was still there. And I was just like, oh,

1683
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: so she came up to you. She was like she's like, damn,

1684
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: you just gonna move my ship or whatever. Oh wow,

1685
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: oh wow.

1686
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,879
Speaker 3: And I was just like, oh my said I immediately

1687
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 3: without hesitation. I was just like, oh, I'm so sorry.

1688
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 3: I didn't realize. I thought I thought this was an

1689
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 3: empty table because you know, you lead it, you know,

1690
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: you leave the paper and stuff on the I was like,

1691
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: I thought I didn't know that that you because the

1692
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 3: way Stevie Bee's worth for anybody that had never been there,

1693
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: you get you get your receipt, I mean, and you

1694
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 3: they give you like a tray, and then you you

1695
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: basically help yourself.

1696
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:41,959
Speaker 1: So I didn't see.

1697
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: Any of that right there, and she was just like

1698
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 3: and she saw my party. It was just like right

1699
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 3: the table was here, and the party tables right there.

1700
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know why she even sat there, because

1701
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: you was gonna be in a way anyway. So I

1702
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 3: put my put the cake there, and she was just like, damn,

1703
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 3: he's gonna move my ship or whatever. And that's when

1704
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 3: she said moved my ship.

1705
01:21:59,200 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1706
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just you just gonna move my ship like that.

1707
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I was just like, oh, I said,

1708
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, I did not realize, like seriously, and then

1709
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 3: she kind of like as I was talking, she walked away. No, no, yeah, yeah,

1710
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 3: So she was just like as I was talking, and

1711
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 3: so she said she she came back like, no, seriously,

1712
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I mean I could give you, I mean,

1713
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: whatever whatever you want. Just I really honestly did not

1714
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: realize you were there. She's like it's all right or whatever,

1715
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: but she it took a minute for me to convince her,

1716
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 3: like to be like she had to get over the

1717
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 3: frustration of me moving her stuff, and I was just like,

1718
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: or not moving her stuff, just putting my stuff where

1719
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 3: she was gonna sit.

1720
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: I just literally did not know that that was her.

1721
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 3: She probably had in her mind were like they better

1722
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 3: not move my stuff, may not take up this spot back.

1723
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 4: And then you actually did it the triggered it.

1724
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: So I was just like, you know what, I get it.

1725
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: Just I said, I'm sorry, I understand not my attention,

1726
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: but it's not about my attention. It's about how you felt.

1727
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 1: It's the impact. So so I'm like okay, And I

1728
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: immediately responded that way.

1729
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 3: So I think in this situation, that's how I respond, like,

1730
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 3: oh I I genuinely just didn't think about it, you

1731
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 3: know what i mean, I'm sorry, Like thank you.

1732
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 4: For holding the door, Like it ain't even that deep,

1733
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's not that deep to me anyway, Like

1734
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 4: I could easily just move I don't have to put

1735
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 4: the cake here.

1736
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: I could move it over here. Like It's just it

1737
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: was just more convenient for my party that it was

1738
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 3: right here. So so yeah, that was a situation where

1739
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 3: it could have got bad. It could have got bad

1740
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 3: if I didn't respond the way that I spawned. Going

1741
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 3: back to your point, and Will Roder said to Ken,

1742
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 3: you do have to be weary of people to come

1743
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: off like super aggressive like that, and like.

1744
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 4: Just the setting, like if they like what she did,

1745
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 4: like something going on with her, and like her like, yes,

1746
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 4: she got something going on? You could tell you right,

1747
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 4: my bad, I'm sorry.

1748
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say she was on the phone,

1749
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: like could tell like maybe she was already frustrated with

1750
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 3: somebody or whatever. So I'm just like, all right, let

1751
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: me let me just you should offer some cake. I

1752
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 3: did I get a whole I gave the whole. I

1753
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 3: gave the whole store cake.

1754
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: That was sweet.

1755
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because we had a big cake and so yeah,

1756
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: I just we started slicing the cake. Everybody, literally everybody,

1757
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 3: the workers, everybody got a slice.

1758
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: Did she take the cake? I can't remember she did

1759
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: or not. I can't remember. Probably she probably yeah, she

1760
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: probably your cake, your son, the whole birthday, but nobody,

1761
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: don't your friend that didn't show up? Yeah, I quickly, man,

1762
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: because I felt bad. I was like, man, I promise,

1763
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: I deny.

1764
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 4: I would not do that.

1765
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: That is not me. I would not. I do not

1766
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: I have.

1767
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 4: I think I had that type of privilege, Like, look,

1768
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 4: they had said that she was right there with you.

1769
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Up, I don't know if they would have had the

1770
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 3: same response like, yeah, they would have had the same

1771
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1772
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 4: I don't even see your ship.

1773
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you would have been something like that.

1774
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, you know, while we own a conversation with violence, uh,

1775
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: Texas Representative July.

1776
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: Went on CNN and uh, I said, when when they

1777
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 4: go low, we go to the gutter.

1778
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1779
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: And they're calling her out for what they call violent remarks,

1780
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: which is like, are you all serious? During the CNN appearance,

1781
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: she's you know, saying, uh, just things that they didn't

1782
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: feel more appropriate.

1783
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 4: But y'all, y'all think she went too farther.

1784
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: Do you need to say what she said? Ken?

1785
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: Okay, let me do it because I remember what she said. Okay,

1786
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 3: go ahead. I had to pull up my notes.

1787
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: She was saying, Oh it is okay, go ahead, go ahead,

1788
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Have you got it? If you hit me in my face?

1789
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: Is this it?

1790
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not going to punch you back in your face.

1791
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to go across your neck.

1792
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: And went like this, oh good, And what else?

1793
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: We need to make sure they don't come back.

1794
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: I know you yeah, yeah she she she went off.

1795
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: She was saying, you know if yeah, like like Ken

1796
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: just said, they pushed me in the face, I'm not

1797
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 1: gonna punch you back. I'm gonna go across your neck.

1798
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, basically, we need to make sure,

1799
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: you know, if they come to us, that they don't

1800
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: come back, and she was being metaphorical. It was still

1801
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: fucking stupid. It was stupid. This part was stupid. All

1802
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: of this was stupid. I felter, and I was like, yes, sis,

1803
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: go but as a politician that's trying to gain office,

1804
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: democrats don't work that way. That ship to work for

1805
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: Republicans because they're stupid. Democrats don't work that way. So

1806
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that wasn't the.

1807
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 4: Throat slashing thing.

1808
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: I think went a little too that that was her

1809
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: saying what she's saying. He was cool with that.

1810
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 2: I think you got to match energy with energy, and

1811
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 2: I think they need need to do it to a

1812
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 2: certain degree. I don't know if we should.

1813
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 3: You know, black people cater how they act to fit

1814
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 3: in with what white people view as their standards. I

1815
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 3: don't think anybody's saying that, yeah, no, yeah, but you know,

1816
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, I know, I know. But it's like so,

1817
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 3: But at the same time, when she says stuff like that,

1818
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: the stereo type will be thrown immediately on her.

1819
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: That ain't fair because why y'all get to egg dumb.

1820
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 3: We know she's not not y'all, but people get to

1821
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,760
Speaker 3: egg dumb like she was talking about killing somebody for

1822
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 3: the metaphor but.

1823
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 4: Did but yeah, but she did throw we couldn't.

1824
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 3: I think, like what you said, she didn't mean it

1825
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 3: like in a sense of oh, we're killing them. It

1826
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 3: meant from like a political standpoint, if you go low,

1827
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 3: then I can go lower. And I think there's two

1828
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 3: things though, to use my words out of context, but

1829
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's necessarily out of context. But

1830
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 3: black women and black people are not allowed that. So

1831
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 3: even if you removed the right even if you removed

1832
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: the throat slashing thing, and Democrats I want that was

1833
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: the third one. I left out Democrats to Mike's point,

1834
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 3: that's why Democrats are where they are.

1835
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 2: But they get labeled as violent etcetera, etcetera, all the

1836
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: things that aren't happening. Look at the ship that they

1837
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: get labeled as violent, et cetera, cetera. So they get

1838
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: these labels put on them. Where the Republicans, for whatever reason,

1839
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 2: you can do the same shit. If, yeah, if a

1840
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: white guy went on, a white woman went on and

1841
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: did the same thing. M Marjorie Taylor Green, Laura Lumer

1842
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 2: or whatever her name is, did the same thing, throat slashing,

1843
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: everything else, there would be a full throated Republican response

1844
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: about y'all know exactly what she means.

1845
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah, So stop taking this out

1846
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,560
Speaker 3: of contest. The Democrats are doing what they are and

1847
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,879
Speaker 3: they will flip this motherfucker masterively. But in this particular

1848
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 3: situation she's she won't be afforded that same sort of nuance.

1849
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: Dems won't have her back. That's why I think this

1850
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: was stupid. I know exactly what she meant. I'm one

1851
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: hundred percent with her, and I don't give a fuck

1852
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: cause I'm not running for office. Y'all can suck by dick.

1853
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 1: Y'all can't ruin me. But I get what she meant.

1854
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm with her, But for someone that's running for office,

1855
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't think this was a smart message for her.

1856
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 4: I just don't or not.

1857
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: Sorry it was a smart message, it wasn't a smart

1858
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: conveying execution. Think I was trying to find the word.

1859
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just wasn't.

1860
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: It just wasn't smart because Dems don't get away with

1861
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: stuff like this. Republicans do. And if Republicans did this,

1862
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: guaranteed there'd be a whole bunch of pearl clutching liberals

1863
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: that would be doing the same shit. Oh my god,

1864
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I cannot believe Laura Lumer just said that she was

1865
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna cut people's heads off. But the reason is different

1866
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: is because.

1867
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 4: Republicans do that.

1868
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: Ship y'all be killing people. Dams don't really kill anybody.

1869
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: So when y'all say it, we believe you. That's why

1870
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: it's different.

1871
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: And the Democrats do call them out for their language,

1872
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 2: except they just like Mike said, they're backed by.

1873
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 1: Their party and their but their language is dangerous because

1874
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: their party does the murdering. If Dems were doing this,

1875
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: I would understand the pearl clutching. Dams don't fucking kill people.

1876
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 1: Dems don't have the fucking balls to do anything. Dims

1877
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: get spin on and they're just like, uh, I'm gonna

1878
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: turn the other cheek and I'm gonna wipe this spin away.

1879
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 4: That's it. Republicans get spit on.

1880
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: They fucking kill you, or they'll kill you before you

1881
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: even have a chance to spit all day.

1882
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 3: Look, they've convinced a lot of people that the Democrats

1883
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 3: the left are more violent than the right.

1884
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Data.

1885
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 5: It's crazy's mastery, ain't it.

1886
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 1: And they erased the data that says this, even though

1887
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: it's a fucking Verify Bible age long fact. Regardless of

1888
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: what the dumb fuck on Reddit that was trying to

1889
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: call Ken out for saying this was, it is a

1890
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: verifiable fact that the right is way more violent than

1891
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: the left, way more violent. So hearing it from this woman,

1892
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: and Ken's right, a black woman at that, they're automatically

1893
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: going to jump in because they don't like smart black women.

1894
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: They certainly don't like brave black women. They certainly don't

1895
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: like outspoken black women. So she's all of these things.

1896
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: They're automatically gonna say she's violent.

1897
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 4: Do you think that there's a side of people on

1898
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 4: the Democratic Party that appreciate this, Yes, but it's not

1899
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 4: enough of them like on the Republican Party that appreciate it,

1900
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 4: is what you're saying.

1901
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is the Dems are cowards and

1902
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 1: they're not going to back her.

1903
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 4: But the Republicans will come out and be like, yeah, exactly, Okay.

1904
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: If somebody if I mean, look a look at the

1905
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: hoops they're jumping through to defend Charlie Kirks blatant racist statements.

1906
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 4: You're taking him out of context.

1907
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: What context do you need for you to be able

1908
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: to say, if I see a black person that's a pilot,

1909
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wonder to disqualified, what context do you need?

1910
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 4: But that's okay.

1911
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: They will jump through spend their own Dems will not

1912
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: do that. They will I'm not even saying that that's wrong,

1913
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying Dems will not come to her

1914
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: defense and be like, Nope, we're standing behind her.

1915
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: And even if they don't agree with the comments, what

1916
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 2: they would say is that they're just being all extra

1917
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 2: and sensitive. They know exactly what she meant and they're

1918
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: just taking the words out of country. That's the type

1919
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 2: of sort of response that some of them would do

1920
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 2: when they don't agree with it.

1921
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,440
Speaker 4: They would just blame the Dems for being sensitive.

1922
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's how they would spin it, even though

1923
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 3: they would think what was said was fucked up, but

1924
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 3: they would just push.

1925
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 4: Put it back on them. It's it's it's insane, but your.

1926
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 1: Right, spike, it's not fair. But nothing that's happening right

1927
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: now or that's happened ever in this country is fair.

1928
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 4: Targets massive layoffs. I'm sorry, it's fife, but we gotta

1929
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 4: move on. Uh yeah, they.

1930
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: Cannot juicy statement the comment yet so we even got

1931
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: into the juicy discussion yet.

1932
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, eighteen hundred corporate

1933
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: employees are being let go.

1934
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: Corporate employees, what does that mean? Corporate office?

1935
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, corporate offices and stuff like that doing a restructure

1936
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 2: and they're lagging sales over the last four years. Uh,

1937
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 2: compounded with with the boycott that's been happening. I was

1938
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 2: supposed to be forty days it's still ongoing and they

1939
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,600
Speaker 2: just can't get right, so now they're trying to do

1940
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: whatever they can in order to get people back in

1941
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: the door.

1942
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: I think how you feel about this, Mike.

1943
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 4: My point, and it was your point. Absolutely.

1944
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: You were about putting a time limit on the boycott

1945
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: and I said, no, make it ongoing. Who sent time?

1946
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: And I said, I don't remember this name. I remember

1947
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: the conversation days thirty days? What do you mean that

1948
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Speaker 1: was the original?

1949
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Speaker 3: You guys were going over the effectiveness, but I could

1950
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Speaker 3: have I was just saying, well, go ahead, go ahead.

1951
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 4: I was just saying that I think it's a effect

1952
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 4: like you.

1953
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 3: I thought you were saying that they'll do it for

1954
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 3: a certain amount of time and then people will forget it.

1955
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 3: But it's like, nah, I think this one is more serious.

1956
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 3: I think they actually are are are this is a

1957
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 3: serious boycott? Yeah, cross the type of I'm.

1958
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Sorry, I understanding.

1959
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 3: You got all type of groups that are advocating for

1960
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:25,360
Speaker 3: different type of movements against target from the religious groups

1961
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 3: to just everyday black folks or whatever.

1962
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: And I said, I think this one is different. I've

1963
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: always said that, sure, And I think that I'm usually

1964
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 1: terrible at conveying what's in my brain.

1965
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Speaker 4: But I'm almost positive.

1966
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: The crux of my issue with this whole thing was

1967
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: they were saying it was a thirty day boycott, and

1968
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: I was saying, do not tell forty Do not tell

1969
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: them that it's a forty day boy So when you say,

1970
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: what do you think about this one, Mike, I'm the

1971
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 1: one who says boycott's work, But I don't think that

1972
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: time limited Boycott's work. I agree because they will just

1973
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh, all we gotta do is wait forty days.

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01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I disagree with that point because I know, like, okay,

1975
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 1: that was the debate.

1976
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 3: Let's reach, but that was the difference. Y'all were arguing

1977
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 3: about the length of the boycott.

1978
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you were like, as long as they're doing

1979
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 2: something in forty days and forty days, and Mike be like,

1980
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: it should be longer, and it's been longer, so here

1981
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: we are.

1982
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I should be the one being like.

1983
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:18,639
Speaker 6: The fuck.

1984
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 4: You were just like at least they're doing something.

1985
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, no, no, no, because it typically

1987
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 3: does go like what Mike's saying, they'll they'll do it

1988
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 3: for a certain amount of time and people forget about it.

1989
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: I'm with them, on that, So I don't see why

1990
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 3: I would be against that. I was just saying that

1991
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 3: this one was a little different. It felt a little different.

1992
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 3: It seemed like as long as it needs to last,

1993
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 3: it would last.

1994
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: They were they were arguing, or they were saying that

1995
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: it was going to be a forty day boycott. And

1996
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: that was the only issue I have with the whole thing.

1997
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: I think boycotts are great. I think boycotts when it

1998
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: comes to monetary that's the only way to strike back

1999
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: at these motherfuckers because they don't care about your feelings.

2000
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: They care about their money. And so if you're just like, well,

2001
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: fuck you, we're not gonna come in there and shop,

2002
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt them and they'll change their ways. Yeah.

2003
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 3: And the crazy thing is, and you know we don't

2004
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 3: have to spend a lot of time here unless people

2005
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 3: really got more thoughts, is that they don't know what

2006
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 3: to do because they did this move. First of all,

2007
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 3: when you when you back down and make changes. I

2008
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys.

2009
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 4: Saw the story by Crocker Barrel too, that's crazy.

2010
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 3: Uh, going back to the logo again, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2011
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 3: when you when you have comply to what these massive.

2012
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 3: People are saying, you lose leverage and power, you give

2013
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 3: them power, and that's what they did, and now they

2014
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 3: can't do it. And it became because when they got

2015
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 3: rid of the d I stuff, when the whole thing

2016
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 3: with bud Light and all the other stuff happened with

2017
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 3: the LGBTQ play plus people can, they lost leverage and

2018
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 3: now you're gonna sway back and forth with whatever makes you,

2019
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 3: you know, in favor of whatever the popular being is.

2020
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 3: But the people that they that they were trying to

2021
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 3: gain back never went back and started shopping with them,

2022
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 3: so it didn't fucking work.

2023
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 1: They were counting on black people not doing this very long,

2024
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: and that is the difference. Black people were like, no,

2025
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 1: we still with you. Some black people were going there,

2026
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: but it's not enough.

2027
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 4: Yes enough.

2028
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say I'm proud of them. I didn't

2029
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 2: think they were going to last stay long too. I

2030
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 2: thought they were women really standing on this.

2031
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: I joy and saw you going in Target last week.

2032
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't like Target.

2033
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm just joking hating Target, bro.

2034
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: I've never been a big Target fan either. But but

2035
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 1: the women that I know, it's just like yo, they

2036
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: really are.

2037
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 4: She won't shop, she would she would not shot there.

2038
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 4: She's mad about it. Yeah, she's mad she can't go there.

2039
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Bro, she's still mad. A lot of people love, Yeah,

2040
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,759
Speaker 1: she loves. But I thought at this point people wouldn't

2041
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: mad anymore.

2042
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 4: They kind of figured out that what they no, no, no, what.

2043
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying is that she wants to shop there, shop there,

2044
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 2: but she's mad she can't shop there because of the boycott.

2045
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying, like you say,

2046
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 3: your wife the same way. I thought people were over that.

2047
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 4: Now No, they want to go with Triget store that

2048
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 4: she replaced. I don't know online problem. Yeah, but whatever

2049
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 4: story it is, that's the story.

2050
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 1: She don't want to damn. I think. I think this

2051
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: is dope, and this is what you should do to

2052
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: every company. Starve them out, you can. I cannot believe

2053
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: they're trying to hold this. They've been trying. They are

2054
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 1: so fucking stubborn that they don't want to back down off.

2055
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: They don't know what. I'm surprised. I'm surprised to billions

2056
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: a dollar money and y'all still don't want to comply.

2057
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

2058
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 2: If you crazy, well you have to the corporate strategy.

2059
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: The pluses and minus is a swat like Anawly's of

2060
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 2: this whole.

2061
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 3: Well not maybe not necessarily a swat, but you have

2062
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 3: to go through the scenarios if we bring d E

2063
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 3: I back and the other thing that they got, the

2064
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 3: the other stuff they got in trouble for, which was

2065
01:38:55,280 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 3: that it was the the lgbt q I A plus stuff.

2066
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: Oh, they were putting up signs and stuff, and the

2067
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: right was making a big bad out of them supporting lgbt.

2068
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: Those are two things that got them in this situation. Yes,

2069
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: if you reverse course, you have to bank on one

2070
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 2: that audience coming back flooding your store. And two you

2071
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 2: have to look at it and ask yourself, will we

2072
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 2: lose uh the other people that are here, like the right,

2073
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 2: and will the people that's returning be enough to offset

2074
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 2: those losses?

2075
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: They're in a predicament and there's no clear answer to that.

2076
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the black dollar is powerful, the white dollars

2077
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 1: more powerful, but but.

2078
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 3: It is the white dollar shopping that target like that,

2079
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:49,600
Speaker 3: because if they were it wouldn't they wouldn't be.

2080
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 1: In a position that they're in now. Right, It's not

2081
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: just the black dollar that left a lot of the

2082
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 1: white dollar left too in solid a, which is dope

2083
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: and that's what should happen.

2084
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 4: But I'm with you, I didn't know.

2085
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: The one thing I did say that was super incorrect

2086
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: during that episode is I didn't know black women loved Target.

2087
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know that.

2088
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 1: And then they have businesses in Target. Well I knew

2089
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: that part, so like shave.

2090
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 3: That.

2091
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2092
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, people that they're trying to keep chopping Walmart. So

2093
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 4: that's why they that's why it's going down. Like and

2094
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 4: Walmart didn't get rid of d I yet, did they.

2095
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 2: I could be there's a list of companies that didn't,

2096
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: but and they haven't been attacked. They're moving forward because

2097
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 2: this is this is what we do. This We're gonna

2098
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: stand behind our missions. Going back to what you say,

2099
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 2: ear Costco is flourishing. Yeah, they had the NB A

2100
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 2: C walk it.

2101
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah it.

2102
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 3: Target has to stand for something and then you know,

2103
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 3: if people come back, then everything right.

2104
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 4: This is this is what this is what a A like.

2105
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: When you look at activism, this is the easiest activism

2106
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: you can do, but it working works Like you don't

2107
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: have to go, you can go if you want to.

2108
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to go to no King's rally. You

2109
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 1: don't have to go hold signs and protests. Do this pockets,

2110
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 1: protest with your dollars and just make it known. And

2111
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: if you tell everybody this is what we're doing and

2112
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: they follow suit, this is the best course. Target sum

2113
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: this up.

2114
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 3: By pissed off black woman, Bro, you get them up.

2115
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I didn't realize.

2116
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 4: Going back.

2117
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: Hair products and ship how much women like about their

2118
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: hair party like, no fun that.

2119
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 4: And they don't let the men right.

2120
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Jame said, did mm hmm, Tyler, Damn Tyler? What you do, bro?

2121
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 3: Is that the juice when you sawing it was man,

2122
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 3: bro like this this this is crazy. So I saw

2123
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,520
Speaker 3: this last week and I hate I missed like the responses.

2124
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 3: But Tyler the creators and a bit of a U

2125
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 3: what is it? That's what I said, No.

2126
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: Bro, So he put up a tribute post to D'Angelo.

2127
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Is from what I saw in Red white fans were

2128
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 2: basically being dismissive of him and.

2129
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 4: And he didn't react very well to that. And black people.

2130
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 3: There are is a group of black people not to

2131
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 3: use all of us, uh, that are basically saying to Tyler, well,

2132
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 3: this is the fan base that you cultivated. This is

2133
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 3: the fan base that and that you also have had

2134
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 3: anti black statements and you didn't care. I think he

2135
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 3: was talking about Black.

2136
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 2: History Month and stuff like that, and uh, they basically saying,

2137
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 2: this is what you deserve, like, this is the audience

2138
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 2: that you created.

2139
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 1: So if they don't appreciate it, then what do you expect?

2140
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: And you never really.

2141
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 3: Well I won't say never really, but yeah, this this

2142
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 3: that's really been the whole discussion. What do y'all think

2143
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 3: about what's going on with Tyler? Because they're digging up

2144
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 3: all kind of tweets and stuff like that. They're accusing

2145
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 3: him of fake appreciation because I think they said they

2146
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 3: found something where he said that he didn't even like Dangelo.

2147
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I didn't see it. I couldn't find

2148
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 3: confirmation of that as being true. But nevertheless, is Tyler

2149
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 3: not allowed to.

2150
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: Grow and mature? He is allowed to grow, ma sure, So.

2151
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 3: Why is he being penalized for growing immature tweets? Why

2152
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 3: is he being I mean, I don't know how to

2153
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 3: answer that, honestly, I don't. I mean, because Tyler said

2154
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 3: a lot of wild ship. Yeah, some people look at

2155
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 3: his trolling because he talked about like homosexuality, but then

2156
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 3: he actually is in that I don't know how to

2157
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 3: say it, Like he himself is yeah about black history,

2158
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 3: George Floyd, Like it was a lot of like yeah,

2159
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 3: he said a lot of wild ship over the years,

2160
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 3: Like but that's how we looked at that, Like we

2161
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 3: just oh, yeah, that's that's our future. They fucking you know,

2162
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 3: they're on that crazy ship or whatever. But so yeah,

2163
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 3: I think essentially he has grown and matured, and which

2164
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 3: we all do in some sort of capacity.

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Speaker 1: So I just give him grace for that. So if

2166
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: he said something back in the day, it's just like,

2167
01:44:58,439 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: does he seem like he's still on that ship?

2168
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 6: So my thing, I think the thing I was confused about.

2169
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:08,280
Speaker 6: Y'all helped me out. So what him tributing to DiAngelo

2170
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 6: have to do with.

2171
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: All the old tweets and stuff? I mean, because those

2172
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:17,720
Speaker 1: people were leaving gross, disrespectful and racist comments under the

2173
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: post about Deana. Oh and then he posted a picture

2174
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: and they were like, who the fuck is this guy?

2175
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 4: Is that Tyler's dad? Just you know, trolling?

2176
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so the conversation has become because somebody else posted

2177
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: a tweets. I don't know if you read it or not.

2178
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: But somebody else posted the tweet saying, uh, you know,

2179
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 1: Tyler's fans have this is paraphrasing, have no real respect

2180
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: for black art, even though Tyler has a very deep

2181
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 1: connection to black art, and he liked that tweet. So

2182
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:53,799
Speaker 1: people are like, wait, time out. You cultivated this audience.

2183
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: You tweeted about how Black History Month is stupid, You

2184
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: made jokes about Mike Brown and his murder, You made

2185
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: these disparaging comments. So how are you surprised that your

2186
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: fans are.

2187
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 4: Acting this way?

2188
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 1: Oh so he's reaction, Yeah, because he liked the twee

2189
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: where the person was like, they don't care about black art.

2190
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you kind of fostered a crowd that

2191
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: shouldn't care about black art, Like most of your fans

2192
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: are trully white kids that think it's cute to be.

2193
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 3: Racist, especially now because the Twitter has changed so much. Yeah,

2194
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 3: and I think this was even taking place on Instagram too, right.

2195
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: Well, the post was on Instagram, but they went back

2196
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: and dug up tweets from like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

2197
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: and then.

2198
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 4: You know, then the discussion becomes well he was a

2199
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 4: young kid, then.

2200
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: What fuck it?

2201
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 4: Was twenty three, twenty adult. You were grown enough to

2202
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 4: know the weight of your words.

2203
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 1: Yep. But I'm with Rod. You are allowed to grow

2204
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: and change. I mean the same discussions had about Cambino

2205
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 1: because he was doing the same type shit.

2206
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 4: Has he grown and changed though, It's just because I'm

2207
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 4: exposed to a larger artists and want more fans that

2208
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 4: now have to act like I've changed.

2209
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but I don't get that era.

2210
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:16,120
Speaker 1: I get the area of know.

2211
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: Think I could look looking at some of the sound

2212
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 2: bites I've seen some of his interviews. It definitely seems

2213
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 2: like he's definitely sure grown mature a lot. It does

2214
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 2: seem like he's starting to embrace more of the the

2215
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 2: blackness hide.

2216
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 3: I think it's an act because I think now that

2217
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,280
Speaker 3: he sees he can absolutely. I don't think that stuff

2218
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 3: like goes away in my opinion when you're talking about

2219
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 3: somebody like him, I think that he now sees that

2220
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 3: he can be successful without being that way. I think

2221
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 3: he thought that that was the key to his success,

2222
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 3: and it did curate an audience, as you said, Mike,

2223
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 3: But now you're talking about the Grammys in him being

2224
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 3: nominated for Album of the Year, and he's seeing that, Oh,

2225
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 3: I don't have to do this weird, crazy shit. I

2226
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 3: can actually just make good music.

2227
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 4: So I can't. I'm not saying I agree with Spike,

2228
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 4: but I think Spike.

2229
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: Is completely valid in what he's saying. I don't think

2230
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: I can't do that ship. If I want Grammys, I

2231
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 1: have to play into this role.

2232
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 3: So he's you, you feel like he's still the same guy.

2233
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 3: It's just this is a bigger public, the biggest stage.

2234
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 3: I can't go own the Grammys and say these things and.

2235
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: Be a troll. What about the christuff? What about it? So?

2236
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,600
Speaker 1: So he was he was?

2237
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 3: He was in every other lyric he would say somebody

2238
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 3: about it being an F word or.

2239
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: But that was the bastard. And how many albums was

2240
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 1: it matter?

2241
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 4: It don't matter.

2242
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:46,600
Speaker 1: But that was part of the.

2243
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 4: Trolling Tyler though, But what Yeah, but who's the trolling Tyler?

2244
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 4: Who's the real Tyler?

2245
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,839
Speaker 3: We don't know, but I guess the growth and maturity

2246
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 3: as time went on and he made more albums before

2247
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 3: he won the Grammy. Grant me from wrong because I

2248
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 3: don't really go back and listen to his stuff A

2249
01:49:01,880 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 3: lot like that, didn't that language sort of dissipate over time.

2250
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 3: It did over time, yeah, but it was a very

2251
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 3: prevalent part of his career. Yeah yeah, early yeah, the

2252
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 3: early on setup part about it. But I think as is,

2253
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 3: as he started to make more albums, that stuff started

2254
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 3: to go away. I don't I can't pinpoint which album

2255
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 3: he stopped using that sort of language and stuff.

2256
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I can probably try to find it. I mean,

2257
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 1: I get the point, but I mean I'm looking at

2258
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: it from from a standpoint of I gotta give him grace.

2259
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 1: If from the age of twenty three or twenty four

2260
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 1: to being thirty four, I think that's plenty of time

2261
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 1: for someone to realize that I was saying some foul shit.

2262
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 4: I don't hear that anymore.

2263
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop. I think that's completely valid. I mean,

2264
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 1: all of us here has said some foul shit since

2265
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: we've been on the internet ten plus years. We've been

2266
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: doing this it and have changed right within year time spent.

2267
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 3: But I.

2268
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 1: Think they're looking at it like this, like you've made

2269
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: it very clear. Oh yes, I've changed my opinion on this.

2270
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: I've made it clear. I've changed my opinion on this.

2271
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 1: I think what they're looking at is title hasn't done that.

2272
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:18,120
Speaker 1: Tyler just showed to Connor. To Spike's point, I'm willing

2273
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,720
Speaker 1: to work with prominent black artists like me.

2274
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 4: Having Charlie Wilson on my album doesn't.

2275
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 1: Mean I'm not anti black. It just means I can siphon,

2276
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, sales from this arena of people, or yeah,

2277
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: he now has access. So I mean, I see it

2278
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: both ways, but I would rather look at it from

2279
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 1: the standpoint of he's changed, and until he gives me

2280
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 1: a reason not to believe him, I'm gonna believe him.

2281
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: But I think, if anything, he should have addressed that

2282
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 1: shit instead of just trying to be silent about it,

2283
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 1: like that doesn't fix anything. If you caused real harm,

2284
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 1: which he did. He made raps about rape, about all

2285
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: kinds of shit, and you called all everybody the f slur,

2286
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: you got to reconcile that man. You have to reconcile that.

2287
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 1: Has anybody asked him about it, I don't know. I

2288
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 1: don't watch interviews.

2289
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: I only see clips that flowing on social media, so

2290
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't watch an interview, But I feel like if

2291
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 2: he would have made some sort of public like apology

2292
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 2: or just acknowledgment of what he was saying at the time,

2293
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 2: even if he leaned into I was twenty three, twenty four,

2294
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 2: I was young, or it was just like, look, this

2295
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 2: is what I was doing to try to get on

2296
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, even though that would have been criticized as

2297
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 2: well because of you know, the things you were saying.

2298
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, there may have been some understanding that came

2299
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 4: with that.

2300
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 3: But some type of like Mike said, he's right, some

2301
01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 3: type of acknowledgement that I did cause harm to people.

2302
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,839
Speaker 1: Dude just went ghosts. I googled it. I couldn't find anything.

2303
01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe after this episode goes up, maybe people

2304
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: will find links and correct us. But I didn't see

2305
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: anything where he actively said, like, Yo, all of that

2306
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 1: shit I was saying in the past was foul. I

2307
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 1: don't agree with that. I was fucked up for that

2308
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 1: and I won't do it anymore. Yeah, I didn't see agreed.

2309
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 3: I think if there was some type of reconciliation, then

2310
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 3: I would be more likely to believe that it. Yeah,

2311
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 3: and I do think that he probably he just from

2312
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 3: looking at his personality, I think he likes to those

2313
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 3: type of people that he was appealing to, like him.

2314
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. I don't know if he still likes that,

2315
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: but he definitely liked it when he was doing that.

2316
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 3: Ship, which wasn't what I'm going to ask. Do you

2317
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 3: think he's grown weary of that audience? You know, like

2318
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 3: he's trying to be more quote unquote black, and since

2319
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 3: they're mostly white, they don't like.

2320
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: This is not the Tyler I know. Look, he could,

2321
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:41,240
Speaker 1: he could, He could fix this, and he could have

2322
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: done this a long time ago. As much as people

2323
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 1: clown him, call him corny, call him lame, whatever the

2324
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:47,719
Speaker 1: fuck you want to say, like you never liked his music,

2325
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: he said something. He knew that a large portion of

2326
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 1: his fans were those people. He drew a line in

2327
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:57,400
Speaker 1: the sand and said, I don't want you as fans.

2328
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Tyler could have done the same thing. Granted, Tyler's not

2329
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:04,879
Speaker 1: em but Tyler is fucking incredibly famous, yeah, and popular.

2330
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: He could have said, like, yo, I know I was

2331
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: saying this edgy shit, this trolley shit, I don't believe

2332
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:12,839
Speaker 1: in this anymore.

2333
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 4: And if you, as a fan believe this shit, I

2334
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 4: don't want you as a fan. Fuck off. He could

2335
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 4: have done that.

2336
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: He didn't. Yeah, I'm saying that he hasn't. Yeah, they said, like, no,

2337
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: Tyler critit has not entirely rided himself of his past. Yeah,

2338
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:28,719
Speaker 1: lack of direct apology.

2339
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 3: Critics and commentators frequently point out that Tyler has never

2340
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 3: issued a comprehensive of public apology for his early transgressions. Uh,

2341
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 3: while this art has evolved, Mini feel he has not

2342
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,879
Speaker 3: helped been held accountable before his poor behavior.

2343
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2344
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 3: Usually you want your friends to grow im mature with you.

2345
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 3: You would think that he want those people to grow

2346
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 3: up mature out of those things that they used to

2347
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 3: like about him, But he just hasn't addressed it. You

2348
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 3: hear like, for example, you hear drug Dylan rappers doing

2349
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 3: it all the time. Like I used to say, someone

2350
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 3: like Jeezi would say, like, I've matured so much since

2351
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,840
Speaker 3: my first album. Like if you still have the same

2352
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 3: mindset that I was rapping about it on the first album,

2353
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,839
Speaker 3: you can still listen to the music, but you shouldn't

2354
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 3: have that mindset listening to my music.

2355
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: Now, right.

2356
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 3: That's that's that's a good point because a lot of

2357
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,680
Speaker 3: a lot of artists like that dude, like push your

2358
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 3: tea sto hard.

2359
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: I did it. So you want to go through it. Yeah,

2360
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 1: it's really not hard. It's not it's really not. And

2361
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: it's not like you're having to explain your art away,

2362
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 1: because that will that's what people will try to be like, well,

2363
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: you're you're asking artists to explain their art. No, I'm

2364
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: asking you to one cause less harm and to reconcile

2365
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: the harm you cause already. I don't think it's that

2366
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: hard to just be like, I'm sorry, I fucked up.

2367
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been talking like this. I don't believe

2368
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 1: in that stuff. It was just me trolling and it's over.

2369
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Ye's done that, so I don't. I can't say that

2370
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for him. I can't. Yeah, yeah, you

2371
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 1: should have made it, made it right. You never made

2372
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: it right. So it's coming back. Your past is coming

2373
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: back to Hunch exactly. I mean I always looked at

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Speaker 1: it like I didn't take him seriously when he was

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Speaker 1: rapping that stuff. I looked at it like he's just

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Speaker 1: a younger version of m He's just trying to be shocking.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't excuse the harm. But for me personally one

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Speaker 1: as a fucking hetero man, he's not fucking attacking me.

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Speaker 1: But I can see why queer people will be like,

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Speaker 1: fuck this guy. I can see why women, especially black women,

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01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: would be like fuck this guy. But I think from

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Speaker 1: day one, Tyler's had trauma and there's some kind of

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Speaker 1: something he went through. As far as when he was younger.

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Speaker 1: I feel like maybe there were white kids that made

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Speaker 1: fun of him for being black, and I think that

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Speaker 1: he had that kind of I mean, I have that

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Speaker 1: kind of trauma, but I just didn't express it the

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Speaker 1: way he did, and a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of suppress feelings probably too, from the status that you

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Speaker 4: said he has now from how he used to rupt right,

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Speaker 4: what do you mean isn't he doesn't you identify like

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Speaker 4: you said it's queer?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, when he talking like like he probably it

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01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 3: was probably a suppress feeling. He couldn't feel like he

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01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 3: could openly talk about it. So I won't address it

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Speaker 3: in this way. My music be derogatory towards.

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Speaker 1: It, right, right, I think he has a lot of

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01:55:57,600 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 1: self hate, not not has maybe had because maybe he's

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Speaker 1: grown past it. But when you listen to those old albums,

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Speaker 1: you feel like, damn, bro, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Like you said, yeah, you can listen to those Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know he.

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Speaker 1: Was going through some right, right, and they're men, they're artists.

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Speaker 1: They don't I mean a lot of them don't know

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01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: how to confront these feelings, so they put them in

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01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 1: music and then they expect us to just figure it out.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, well, nah, you just sound like you

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Speaker 1: don't like black people. You know, even though your whole

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Speaker 1: crew is black, you just sound like you don't like

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Speaker 1: black folks. I don't know. Maybe he'll be fine, he'll

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Speaker 1: be fine. He just needs to say something at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he liked a tweet.

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Speaker 3: Where he somebody had tweeted Tyler's fan base hates black music,

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Speaker 3: despite Tyler himself having a very deep love and appreciation

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Speaker 3: for it. Uh, he has Charlie Wilson, Eric would do

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Speaker 3: DJ Drama, et cetera collaboration. They still refuse to engage

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Speaker 3: with black art on any meaningful level.

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Speaker 1: Very accountabalistic. And that was a tweet that Tyler liked.

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Speaker 1: That's the one I was trying to remember, which is

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fair fucking statement. Those I mean

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Speaker 1: I've seen I've been to his shows. Man, those motherfucking kids, bro,

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Speaker 1: they fucking yelled Nigga.

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Speaker 3: Like it is and even criticized him for that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I saw that. Tyler criticized him for even saying that word.

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Speaker 3: Was the lyrics I see the opposite. Oh really, yeah, bro,

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Speaker 3: Tyler was like, I don't care who says nigga.

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Speaker 4: It's just a word. Everyone should be able to say it.

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Speaker 4: That's what I saw.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he said something else after that that you saw,

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Speaker 1: But the ship that I saw, I was like, God,

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01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: damn these folks man, but ship. Some of the TV

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01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: people said the same ship. So they took that he

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01:57:42,240 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 1: started walking that back? Did they? Yea was the one

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Speaker 1: that I didn't want to say nobody's name, but.

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Speaker 4: I was positive I think it did.

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Speaker 1: But I think they know Kendrick was the one that

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Speaker 1: kicked that girl off stage because she said nigga. Remember

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Speaker 1: Kendrick was like, oh no, no, no, But I thought

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Speaker 1: it was school boy. But I wasn't positive school boy

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Speaker 1: school boy. I think if y'all are certain that, I'm

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01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: certain pretty certain that was. But yeah, I thought they

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01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't walk that back. Since then, I mean, people, people

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01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: have the right to say ship, realize they said something

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01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 1: wrong and take it back, but you have to say it.

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01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking it back. If you don't do that, we

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Speaker 1: can't just assume.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so all right, well we'll leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Let let's get ready for this live.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you guys check out frames per second the replay,

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Speaker 3: which should be live right now and hasn't finished up

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Speaker 3: this episode because you got