1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: I never said you couldn't say what you want to say. 4 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: You could say anything you choose to say. There are 5 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: consequences for your actions. You've got an employer and you're 6 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: taking talking about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and you're saying, yeah, yeah, 7 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: you might lose your job. Like let's say you're a 8 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: member of the Secret Service and you think the assassination 9 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk was nothing more than karma. You might 10 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: lose your job. That happened. By the way, the left 11 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: is in levels of outrage, firing people. This is what 12 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: the Nazis did. They're always calling you a Nazi. So 13 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: good job in bringing down the rhetoric. Now, I should 14 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: be clear that it is not every single Democrat, every 15 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: single leftist, every single progressive who is ratcheting things up, 16 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: cheering the murder, the assassination of Charlie Kirk and saying 17 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: we want more of this. It isn't. But it's enough 18 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: to make you take notice. It's enough to make you say, 19 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: isn't the real story here that Charlie Kirk was assassinated 20 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: by a guy who got radicalized at the age of 21 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: twenty two, who lived with a man who claimed to 22 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: be a woman, and they were both into the idea 23 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: of dressing up as annamimals. Furries kids, they're called furries 24 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: tony kats, tony kats today. Good to be with you. 25 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: And while we may joke about some things like furries 26 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: in and of itself, in every instance, take out that 27 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: and replace it with what it is, which is mental illness. Now, 28 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I don't mind people having a fetish. Everybody's got a fetish. 29 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: Everybody has the thing that they're into. Some are acceptable 30 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: and some are not, and some are dangerous and some 31 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: are not. But if you are involved with someone who 32 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: thinks that they are another gender, that person's mentally ill. 33 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: And it is clear that the suspect in this case, 34 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: again I do not use names, this twenty two year 35 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: old who grew up in a life that would, to 36 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people seem standard and normal and run 37 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: of the mill and very very suburban white. He was radicalized, 38 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: absolutely radicalized by whom? By what? By how many? These 39 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: are all questions, But is there any real difference to 40 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: the idea of I came from a normal home and 41 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 2: now I want to kill Charlie Kirk. Two. I came 42 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: from a normal home, and now I want to kill 43 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: all Western civilization because I'm in Islamist. The answer is no, 44 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: radicals exist everywhere. People can give me radicalized from any spot, 45 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: brainwashed from any spot. They were just normal young girls 46 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: until they met Charlie Manson. If you want to think 47 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: that somehow this is new, well this is far from new. 48 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: If you want to ask how these things happen, how 49 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: can somebody lead to go down this road of becoming 50 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: so radicalized? They say the only thing I can do 51 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: is murder, assassinate Charlie Kirk. Well, that's a worthy question. 52 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: And when I see as I see people commenting on 53 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: the live stream as we are there on YouTube, YouTube, 54 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: dot com, slash, Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony Kats Radio, Twitter 55 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: x Tony Katz, it's radicals and extremists on both sides. 56 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: Allow me to push back on that, just for a moment. No, 57 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: it's not no, it's not no, it isn't no, it's not. 58 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: It's not. 59 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: No, it's not even if you wanted to take a 60 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: look at January sixth, you are more than welcome to 61 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: do so. A riot, indeed a riot, indeed an insurrection. 62 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, if only so far as no one has 63 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: been charged with insurrection. And considering half the people you 64 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: threw in jail were invited into the Capitol, I don't 65 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 2: know the direct numbers have, but you get my point. 66 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: People engage in violence should be in jail. But none 67 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: of them said I'm going to go after a person 68 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: X like the Bernie bru went after Steve Scalise, like 69 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: this guy assassinated Charlie Kirk, like Butler Pennsylvania, and he 70 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: tried to assassinate then presidential candidate and now President of 71 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: the United States Donald Trump. No, no, no, no, it is 72 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: not both sides, and we are not going to somehow 73 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: pretend that we can have this conversation without addressing the 74 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: thing as it is. When Ilhan Omar was shown to 75 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: be the Jew hating bigot that she is, and it 76 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: was Republicans that wanted to censure her, Democrats forced the 77 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: hand to say that we oppose all this type of hate. 78 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: That wasn't the conversation. No one wants to hear about 79 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: your Islamophobia, nonsense talk, fear of Muslims, fear of Islamists. 80 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: You bet fear of jihadis absolutely islama phobia. 81 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: Stop talking. 82 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: It was about something specific with ilhan Omar, and then 83 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: it got clouded by saying, well, you see here's it's 84 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 2: all these things. This is not all of these things. 85 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: This is about people being radicalized to a level of progressiveness, 86 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: from a level of progressiveness that leads them to the 87 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: place that the only answer is to kill the people 88 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: they disagree with. This is indeed what happened. The shooter 89 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: is not cooperating with police. The boyfriend, from everything I 90 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: am reading, is cooperation rating with police. 91 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: That's where this stands. That's where we are here. 92 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: But even to the more of this, and we've had 93 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: word from Cashtel, the FBI director, that fingerprints on the towel, 94 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: fingerprints on this absolutely connect this person, this this killer, 95 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: with what happened. So they feel, at least to the 96 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: public pronouncements, that they're confident that they have the right 97 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: person that this is going to happen to. This person 98 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: is going to be found guilty. And as Senator Senator sorry, 99 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: Governor Spencer Cox from Utah explains, Utah has the death penalty. 100 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: I do not know what they're going to do in 101 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 2: this case. But we've seen a lot of people cheer. 102 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: They're singing songs things I can't play for you on radio. 103 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Come now. They're excited, they're thrilled, they're overjoyed. Ha ha, 104 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: you got shot in the neck. Ain't that great? It's 105 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: it's a lot of cheering of death. It lets you 106 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: know who they are, and it lets you know exactly 107 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: what time it is, how serious the situation is. I 108 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: said this last week. I have said this to everyone 109 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: I know. I'm saying it now. This will not end. 110 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: It won't end. The only way out is through. The 111 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: only way out is through. We have to get through this, 112 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: and that is going to take time, a lot of time. 113 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: Do you think that magically, somehow, these people, these hateful, 114 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: vile people, are going to stop. 115 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna stop, but they're gonna stop calling you Nazis. 116 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: And bigots and fascists whatever other name they can come 117 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: up with because they disagree with you or you disagree 118 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: with them. No, no, they're not going to stomp like 119 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: Jews wandering the desert for forty years. Why do you 120 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: think it took forty years? They were that bad directions, 121 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: Nobody had a map or a compass, which that Wait 122 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: a second, Wait a second, I remember that tree. We 123 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: should turn left, not right. No one stop it. You 124 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: wandered forty years in the desert to get rid of 125 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: the slave mentality of being a slave to Pharaoh. That's 126 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: why you did it. Does anybody question if Hamas was 127 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: destroyed today you think the Palestindians could self govern. You're 128 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: gonna need two generations to get the hate out of 129 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: their heads. What makes you think that a political left 130 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: ideology that for ten years has been told that Trump 131 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: is the threat. And then, of course you have the 132 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Dobbs decision in the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which 133 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: for fifty years the left was taught was their religion. 134 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: Religion was terrible, but abortion was a religion. That's what 135 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: they were taught, That's what they were shown. You think 136 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: that you're gonna get now all of a sudden, these 137 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: people say, Okay, we were not going to be so 138 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: hateful now. There is no one who disagrees with the 139 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: reality that there will be other attacks. I'm certainly hoping 140 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: that it's not on me, and I'm hoping it is 141 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: not on anyone, but we should be clear they are 142 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: going to be further attacks. Just take a look at 143 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: the reactions, take a look at the pronouncements, take a 144 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: look at how people are engaged and what excites them. 145 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: This was Jamel Hill, who can't help bigotry. 146 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: Suspect has been identified as Tyler Robinson, twenty two years old, 147 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 4: And of course, as you all know, in the wake 148 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: of Charlie's murder, there was an incredible amount of angry 149 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:27,119 Speaker 4: discourse from the right, blaming the Democrats, blaming liberals, saying. 150 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: You're the reason this happened. 151 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: Only to find out, surprise, twenty two year old white 152 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: dude love guns, raised by two parents, lived in a 153 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: good home. Dad as a minister, also a sheriff. Didn't 154 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 4: check it in on boxes, y'all not even checked diddy. 155 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: She's excited that the guy is white, doesn't ask why 156 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: was he radicalized? Doesn't ask why do you do this? Nope, 157 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: that's actually wanting to dig in to understand. 158 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: But Jamel Hill is only surface. 159 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: Jamel Hill's level of depth doesn't get past Melanin, never will. 160 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: This is the only thing she cares about. Why is 161 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: this the only thing you care about? What leads somebody 162 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: to want to do this? That is something we should know, 163 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: so we say civil society can say, hey, here's how 164 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: we thwart these things, to do the best we can 165 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: to help prevent this in the future. She's thrilled that 166 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's assassin was white. I wonder if I took 167 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: a look at Chicago over the weekend and the death count, 168 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: how many of those killers were white? Is she? We 169 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: don't got to talk about it. If you want to 170 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: make it racial. Everything becase comes Rachel. Nothing actually ever 171 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: gets handled, Which is, why are people killing themselves in 172 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: the streets in Chicago or Saint Louis or name your 173 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: big city. And why did this guy assassinate Charlie Kirk? 174 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: How did he get radicalized? What happened? Well, I'm not 175 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: going to blame Jamel Hill, but cheering, Thank goodness, it 176 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: was a white guy. Man. That is that is part 177 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: of the disease culture that's causing the problems. That's part 178 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: of the let's not address the real deep issues, keep 179 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: its surface as long as I can get it off 180 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: my plate. This is on all of our plates. I've 181 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: got a lot to get to. I'm glad you guys 182 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: are here. Stick stick around on Tony Katz. This is 183 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. So once again we are being warned 184 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: about a government shutdown. You'll forgive me. I have absolutely 185 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: no plans whatsoever of concerning myself with this silliness. Tony Katz, 186 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. Find everything 187 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com, Live streaming on the Twitter 188 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: x at Tony Katz YouTube, Tony katzs Facebook, Tony Kats Radio. 189 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: All I ever hear about, all they ever talk about, 190 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: is well, we're gonna have a government shutdown. We have 191 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: to do this. We have to do that. You know, 192 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: people may not get paid. 193 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: Every time, every single time. Figure it out. 194 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: Just go about creating a budget like a bunch of grownups, 195 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: and stop pretending that you could put us through this. 196 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: We're not interested. We don't. Is it just met don't 197 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. I don't. It doesn't matter. Well, Tony, 198 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: the militarys are gonna get paid. Yeah, I know, I 199 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: know this. Now what do you want me to do? 200 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: You're the elected official. Care more, be less political care more. 201 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: Get a budget passed. But that's an impossibility today. This 202 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: is gonna lead to the story about Pete Booter Judges. 203 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Where do I have that. Where do I have? You 204 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: know what? I will lead the next hour with it. 205 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: I'll put it right there. You won't believe your ears. 206 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: You won't believe your ears except you will scream at 207 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: the top of your lungs. I knew it. I knew 208 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: it now, huh. I can go with the comments. I 209 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: can go with the comments, or I can engage. I'm 210 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: gonna stick it. Stick here for a second. There are 211 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: some incredible comments coming in the in the chat room 212 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: for the live stream. I will get to that because 213 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: there's a great example here of being unserious about a position. 214 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: Just because you want something to be true, it doesn't 215 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: make it true. This is true. There's a gas pumping 216 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: defect in the Corvette that is setting them on fire. 217 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: General Motor. By the way, the new Corvette is beautiful. 218 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: It's been around for a couple of years now. It 219 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: is absolutely spectacular. 220 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: Love it. 221 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: I have not driven one yet. I am not so 222 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: sure if if I got in it, if I could 223 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: get out of it, I'm unsure. I'm a big guy. 224 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about it at all. But I do 225 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: have a nineteen ninety nine Miata got for my kids 226 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: so they could learn about cars and learn stick and 227 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: we can do an oil change easily, and a bunch 228 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: of other stuff like it goes car you could work on. 229 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: And I've been driving it because my kids not great 230 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: at stick yet. Me like the wind and I love it. 231 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: I look I think I look ridiculous in it, but 232 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: I love it anyway. The story here is that this 233 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: guy is refueling his car. His twenty twenty four Corvette 234 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: Z six catches fire. I mean just ruined, destroyed, Thank goodness, 235 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: everybody's alive. 236 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: So posts a photo. 237 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: He's like, does this ever happen to anybody before? Has 238 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: anybody heard about this? GM starts digging into the problem 239 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: because other social media people are like, oh yeah, oh yeah, 240 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: I've heard this. Yeah, this is happening. GM digs in 241 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: and they decide, you know what, recall recall. That means 242 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: the cost of the recall is less than whatever the 243 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: issue is. So what's happening is a cooling fan that 244 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: runs even after the car has been shut off could 245 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: blow spilled gas on the engine and it could catch fire. 246 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: So if you have a filling station pump that doesn't 247 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: automatically stop and gas trickles out, the fan can blow 248 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: it over and the next thing you know is a boom. 249 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: That's crazy, What a weird thing? I mean, I wonder 250 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: if you're even angry at them for not thinking about it. 251 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: Three call effects more than twenty three thousand Corvettes that 252 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: started over one hundred thousand dollars. I was almost going 253 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: to say, I do not know if it's worth it, 254 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: but I would be wrong. Who am I to decide 255 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: what's worth it. I can decide it's not worth it 256 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: for me, and even I am like, well, maybe if 257 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 2: I didn't just make radio money, i'd find that interesting. 258 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: By the way, Corvette, Mustang or Porsche, which is really 259 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: an unfair way to look at it because you're talking 260 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: about very different things. But if you're doing the supercar 261 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: which one or Miata the check. By the way, in 262 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: the chat room, they're like, that's a hairdresser's car. That 263 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: is cold. 264 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 3: That is cold, although the person. 265 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: Does who cuts my hair probably could afford me out 266 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 2: at this stage of the game. The story I'll have 267 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: over at tonycats dot com. Keep it here. This is 268 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today smoking the Trace Compadres from christof Cigars, 269 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: excellent cigar for the midday, Nice and easy, Tony Kats, 270 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. 271 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I do smoke cigars during the show. 272 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: I don't know other people do other things. 273 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: Me. 274 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: I have myself a cigar. Will we see sanctions taking 275 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: place against the Russians. Well, President Trump wants it, says 276 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: that he wants it, is arguing for it. We need 277 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: these sanctions right away. 278 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 5: I can thank you good fuck. 279 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: That have had to do it. 280 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: But well, them, they're not doing the jump. 281 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: NATO has to get together, Europe has to get together 282 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 6: and do Look Europe is that, my friends, But they're 283 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 6: buying oil from Russia, so we can't be expected to 284 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 6: be the only ones that are full four. 285 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 3: But Europe is buying oil from Russia. 286 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 6: I don't want them to buy oil. And these sanctions 287 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 6: that are putting that they're putting on are not tough enough. 288 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: And I'm willing to do sanctions, but they're going to have. 289 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 6: To tough enough their sanctions to mensure it with. 290 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: What I'm doing. 291 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 2: Punt clarify. 292 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 6: You want to move ahead and to NATO, well, I'm 293 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 6: ready to move ahead, but they have to do it. 294 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 6: I think they will, But right now they're talking and 295 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 6: they're not doing they look, they're buying oil from Russia. 296 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 6: We're not buying from Russia. They're buying a lot of 297 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 6: oil from Russia. 298 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: That's not the deal. 299 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 3: Buying oil from Russia is of course crazed. 300 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly how much oil they're buying 301 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: from Russia right now. But the very idea of sanctions, well, 302 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: they'll do it, I'll do it is pretty interesting because 303 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: usually you would just go forward. And you have Mike Johnson, 304 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House, saying that he absolutely. 305 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely favors the idea of sanctions. 306 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 5: When Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, says, as he 307 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 5: did this weekend, now is the time for Russia sanctions. 308 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 5: President Trump opened the door on terrace against India and 309 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 5: China as a way to create economic leverage to end 310 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 5: the war in Ukraine. Where do you stand on all. 311 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 7: That, Well, listen, I do believe that desperate times called 312 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 7: for desperate measures, and I think or for overdue I mean, 313 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 7: I think there's a big appetite for that in Congress. 314 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 7: So we're willing to work with the White House and 315 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 7: our Senate colleagues in the House to get that done. 316 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 7: And I'm anxious to do it personally, are. 317 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: You waiting for the present? You should? 318 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: You should do it, You should go about doing it. 319 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: Why would you. 320 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: Have to wait for NATO? 321 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: Though? 322 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: Is kind of interesting. And then if there are more sanctions, 323 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: if it wouldn't that stop the Europeans from buying any 324 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Russian oil to the extent that they are. India is 325 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: buying Russian oil and these sanctions aren't going to necessarily 326 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: effect there unless the plan is, can I get Europe 327 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: involved so we have a more united front, so we 328 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: can get India to stop with this madness of buying 329 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: Russian oil. But India is going to say, we've got 330 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: ourselves a Thursday nation that would like to get out 331 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 2: of poverty and they need energy, and we're not going 332 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: to be told no. Leave that to the side from it, 333 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: let's go back to the to the baseline question here, 334 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: which is about sanctions, which is really about what is 335 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 2: it that we're seeing regardless Russia in Ukraine and is 336 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: this something that can be ended? Ukrainian drones hit an 337 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: oil refinery. The Ukrainians have been going after Russian energy 338 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: since really since the beginning, but certainly a lot recently. 339 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: Right the oil funds the war effort, and the oil 340 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: and the funding for the war effort, you save Ukrainian lives. 341 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: This is the theory of the Ukrainians. I think that when 342 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: you see this though, just like you saw Russia with 343 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: the drone attack and the next thing you know, they've 344 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 2: got what is its seventeen drones that are entering a 345 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: Polish airspace. The Poles have to take it down. You 346 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: see that, You see this from Ukraine. This really does 347 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: give the the the our people reason to say, you 348 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: know what, forget it. Trump met with them, Trump tried 349 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: Trump at the summit. We did everything, and nothing's changed. 350 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: Putin hasn't stopped, Zelenski hasn't stopped. No one's coming to 351 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: the table. No one's gonna be pushed to the table. 352 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: All right, it's over. 353 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: Let them kill each other. Who actually cares. I am 354 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 2: not a believer in this. I am saying that it 355 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: is clear to understand where some people are like I 356 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: didn't want to be involved anyway. These guys won't stop 357 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: killing each other. Let them kill each other to the 358 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 2: last man. We can move on with our lives. I 359 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: don't have to pay attention to that. I'm not gonna 360 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: pay attention to that. I'm not giving up any blood. 361 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up any treasure for people who simply 362 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: won't stop. They've got a real argument, they really do, 363 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: they have a real argument. I don't think it's the 364 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: best argument. I don't think you allow unfettered Russian aggression, Tony. 365 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you understand what a bad guy vladimir's 366 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: Lenski he is. And the latest one was, you know, 367 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: he's a coke fiend. Maybe maybe, but Robert Downey Jr. 368 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: Was a coke fiend that we let him make movies. Again, 369 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: by the way, was it coke? What were the drugs 370 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: he was on. I don't want to disparage the guy. 371 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: The point is there was a time he was doing 372 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: bad things and now he's not. And what in the 373 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: world does anything z Lenski's doing have to do with 374 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: the fact that these people are getting killed and didn't 375 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: do anything wrong, they were attacked. Do we stand by 376 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: and allow the attack? Well, we don't have a treaty 377 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: with Ukraine. We don't have this. We don't have that. 378 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: We certainly gave them a lot of lip service and 379 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: did not deliver in the past, that much happened do 380 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: we have to be a. 381 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: Part of this part of our world strategy. 382 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: And I think the thing that the people in Magaville 383 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: most don't want, the thing that they object to, which 384 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: they would then say, see, this is the Neo conway. 385 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: Is we put ourselves in these places to stop these 386 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: conflicts from happening, and by doing so, that is an 387 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: assertion of American soft power, and that keeps these allies 388 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: in line and therefore keeps the Russians at bay. Right. 389 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: I think I'm approaching that well. By the way, I'm 390 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: not disparaging Robert Downey Jr. Who has made a heck 391 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: of a life for himself as a world class actor, 392 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: and good for him, and I don't think he would 393 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: believe I was. 394 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: I could have used any other examp. Hunter was too easy. 395 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: I need to talk about somebody who came back and 396 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: did good things, right. I have no idea if Hunter 397 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: has come back from anything at this point. If the 398 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: plan is hey, it's two nations having nothing to do 399 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: with us, to let him fight it out, I don't 400 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 2: think that's valuable. As we should be asking how does 401 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: the result affect us, and the result of Russia owning 402 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: Ukraine affects US because we're a NATO ally and they'll 403 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: come after these nations next. You want the buffer. This 404 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: is good, this is better. It's bad enough we've got 405 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: to deal with the Baltics in other places. You want 406 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: the buffer, you want the thing, and you don't think 407 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: that people should simply be invaded. Now, maybe you could 408 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: argue that this is the idea of not having entanglements 409 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: with other nations. Can't you have to protect you which 410 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: is why I have said, for example of South American countries, 411 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: and I believe this, we should not allow a single 412 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: able bodied man from a South American es Central American 413 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: country into the US to enter. No that you have 414 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: a country, you have to go fight for it. I 415 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: see single able bodied Chinese men coming to the net 416 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: in States as what refugees. No back you go, No no, no, no, no, no, no, 417 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: no no way. Anybody who trusts that is out of 418 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: their mind. You have to go fight for your nation. 419 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: Now the question is should we assist at any level 420 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: of a fight. 421 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: And that's where it has always been for me with Ukraine, 422 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 2: and I said, I will give them bullets, I will 423 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: give them guns, I will give them tanks. But I'm 424 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: not giving them any people. And even when we've discussed 425 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: the idea of patriot systems and misdefense systems, that's going 426 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: to require Americans on the ground to work these systems. 427 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: I have real issue with that. But this started with 428 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: the conversation of when you see the Ukrainians going after 429 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Russian energy assets and you see the Russians continuing to 430 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: engage drone attacks against key cities and key areas. These 431 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: guys don't want to stop. So why is Trump in 432 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: the middle of this whole thing. He can't get them 433 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: to stop. Now, Trump may his bones by saying he 434 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: can get them to stop, So in his head he 435 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: has to get them to stop. He has to at 436 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: least get him to stop for an hour, and then 437 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: if they start again, he can say, well, I tried 438 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: to get them to stop, but these crazy people won't listen, 439 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: which I think is the place he's heading. As for 440 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: why I won't put out a sanction till they put 441 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: out a sanction, I wonder how much of that is 442 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: particular to the idea of Russia or really sending a 443 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 2: message elsewhere about if any nation should buy Russian energy. 444 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: And I still don't know if that would stop the 445 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: Russians from moving forward as they see it. They believe 446 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: they can win this thing. As they see it. They 447 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: can kill more Ukrainians than Ukrainians can kill Russians. That said, 448 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: Russia has paused gasoline exports, declaring on that there will 449 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: be a full band until September thirtieth, and then a 450 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: partial band affecting traders in intermediaries and October thirty first, 451 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: meaning there are areas in Russia where the gas stations 452 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: have run dry, which means this attack on the energy 453 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: is going to put pressure on Putin through a very 454 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: unhappy populace that can't run their tractors or cars or 455 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: anything else. Maybe it'll have an effect to bring Russia 456 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 2: to the table. I just haven't seen any proof that 457 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: it will. And I have to believe that Trump doesn't 458 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: want to be a guy who says these people are crazy. 459 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: Let him fight it out until it's over. He doesn't 460 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: want it because he made the promise that he could 461 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: stop it. But I think this whole thing with the sanction, 462 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: I'll wait for the let's see if the Europeans do it. 463 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: I think he's wondering whether he's just wasting his time 464 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: at the stage of the game. 465 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: I think that's part at least of the story. 466 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony 467 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Katz today. Interesting story about retirement. As we were just 468 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: chatting in the in the chat room about the idea 469 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: of where does political violence come from? And where is 470 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: it happening? And really this this conversation of if we're 471 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: honestly going to address things, then we have to honestly 472 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: address things. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be 473 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: with you. You cannot murder assassinate Charlie Kirk and then say, well, 474 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: you know there's political violence on both sides. No, you 475 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: have to come out and denounce the assassination. And that 476 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: has not happened. Since he is now the former president, 477 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 2: one could agree that the leader of the Democratic Party 478 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: is still Joe Biden. Would you do me a favorite 479 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: producer landon? Will you check Twitter? X? Will you check Facebook? 480 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: We check any news reports? Has Joe Biden said anything 481 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: about the assassination of Charlie Kirk? The what about ism? 482 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: It happens on both sides is a conversation that could 483 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: happen later, and it's a conversation I don't even mind, 484 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: but to say, well, look at all what the right's doing. No, no, no, no, no. 485 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: It is this murderer, This kid who came from a 486 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: seemingly very normal home, got radicalized, took to a rooftop 487 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 2: and assassinated Charlie Kirk. How does that happen? What was 488 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: the cause of that? And it is obvious from the 489 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: things inscribed. I'm the having of the trans boyfriend, one 490 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: can say there was a radicalization that took place. By 491 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: the way, the boyfriend is the last report being assisting 492 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: the police. The suspect is not in any way, shape 493 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: or form right, the suspect is not by the way, 494 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: President Biden, there is no place in our country for 495 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: this kind of violence. It must end now. Jill and 496 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: I are praying for Charlie Kirk's family and loved ones. Well, 497 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: that's very very sweet to put out on the day 498 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: of What do you mean this kind of violence though, 499 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: And this is exactly the points even he won't say 500 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: violence from the left must end. Maybe it's because you 501 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: said that Donald Trump is the greatest threat to our democracy. 502 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: Maybe it's because you said Donald Trump is a genuine 503 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: threat to this nation. He's a threat to our he's 504 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: a threat to our democracy. He's literally literally a threat 505 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: to everything America stands for. You said that on June 506 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. Maybe it's because in December 507 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three you said Trump poses many threats 508 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: to our country. The right to choose civil rights, voting 509 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: rights in America is standing in the world. But the 510 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: greatest threat he poses is to our democracy. If we 511 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: lose that, we lose everything. You called them a threat 512 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: to the democracy. You said in twenty twenty two that 513 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and Maga Republicans are a threat to the 514 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: very soul of this country. Euginen people up. They then 515 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: internalize it and engage the act of violence. And then 516 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: you go about both sides and it about there's no 517 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 2: place in our country for this kind of violence. Now 518 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: the political left must stop being violent. That would have 519 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: been the answer, President Biden. But you don't do that. 520 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: We see you. We're not buying in. You can't win 521 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: this battle with us. We've seen it too often. Keep 522 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: it here. 523 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.