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Speaker 2: It was good, y'all, welcome to another frames per Second episode. Man,
Speaker 2: today we're having a conversation. This came out like a
Speaker 2: little bit after we recorded last week. I feel like
Speaker 2: somebody brought it up though before we left. Right right
Speaker 2: said other day we're finished recording, wrapping up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. But yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I'm your host.
Speaker 2: Rod to the right of mean of the voice you
Speaker 2: heard just now was Kenneth Bing's what's something? One start
Speaker 2: up across from him, he got Spike Man with Navana shirt.
Speaker 2: Y'all Patroon supporters, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: See the rock boys.
Speaker 1: Over there next to him down with the discipline shirt.
Speaker 4: I like the shirt, Okay, I just don't like the
Speaker 4: smells like smells like teen spirits.
Speaker 1: He looked up before he came in. You know, we
Speaker 1: got start trap.
Speaker 3: Look up his shirt bumping some smells like right to
Speaker 3: the essential skin.
Speaker 1: Hey what you gotta do?
Speaker 3: Man? But yeah, man, we're here to talk about this
Speaker 3: the controversy.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it happened like right after our recording,
Speaker 2: like it happened a day up. So you know we're
Speaker 2: we're we like we're we are we like on this
Speaker 2: but it's still going on though. It's still yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because they just did something of the na A A
Speaker 2: CP and it's been addressed there. But we'll go through
Speaker 2: all of that. But yeah, just to kind of give
Speaker 2: it a little background on what happened. So yeah, at
Speaker 2: the Bafter Bafter Film Awards, John Davidson, he actually was
Speaker 2: being awarded there by a BIB pic called I Swear,
Speaker 2: but he involuntarily shot a slurred doing Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan and Delroy's Lindo speech. He said, he said, it
Speaker 3: was like, was it just nigger? I thought it was more?
Speaker 3: He said what else?
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know, you hosted, can't it's just
Speaker 1: racial slur. Everything says it's just racial slur.
Speaker 4: I think he said nigga bitch. Didn't he thought nigga nigga.
Speaker 3: But anyway, he had he suffers with Rett syndrome.
Speaker 2: Uh, and that's what the movie was, you know, essentially
Speaker 2: about that's a that's based on his life or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it stirred up. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was going to be going on
Speaker 2: as long, but it stirred up a bit of a
Speaker 2: fuss and in like not only in the movie industry,
Speaker 2: but just around just in general. Can't like what what
Speaker 2: was your what did.
Speaker 3: You hear about it?
Speaker 1: Like what was your thoughts on I know, just the
Speaker 1: way he was looking at.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, okay, okay, try to get me.
Speaker 4: Can't read up on the fee you try to be PC.
Speaker 6: No, I'm not. But what when I first saw it?
Speaker 6: I think the first question that came to mind for
Speaker 6: me is where in the hell are you saying that?
Speaker 1: And why?
Speaker 6: Like how is that part of your your vernacular? Like
Speaker 6: you know what, like you're running around the house. Was
Speaker 6: it part of the script where you recently auditioned for
Speaker 6: a Tarantino films?
Speaker 1: Like what the hell happened?
Speaker 6: Like how did this become part of one of the
Speaker 6: things that you just randomly just blurt out? I think
Speaker 6: that's part of the condition, though, what that you just
Speaker 6: see something that you just call it what it is?
Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm saying. It's like if some things
Speaker 1: triggered it.
Speaker 6: So seeing black people was a trigger for him to
Speaker 6: say nigger, Like.
Speaker 1: I see black people and that's the word.
Speaker 4: The first thing to come to mind is joking around,
Speaker 4: like but let can't cook for a bit.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to say, no, no, he don't
Speaker 1: need I.
Speaker 4: Keep telling y'all, I keep telling y'all, holes don't need
Speaker 4: to be saved.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: Let them do what they do.
Speaker 2: Get back on the pole, kids, nous. So you don't
Speaker 2: know what No, I know what is?
Speaker 1: You just say random ship, but nigger is part of it.
Speaker 1: It's not always random.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so there's a filter in your brain that
Speaker 4: they don't have. The stuff that keep the filter is
Speaker 4: not to say nigger. Well, any word that you genuinally,
Speaker 4: genuinely wouldn't say.
Speaker 7: It's an unacceptable word, like you know how we you
Speaker 7: might see a gay person and you know that if
Speaker 7: this person over here yells the f slur, that's fucked up,
Speaker 7: you might think that right, Whereas with tourett's.
Speaker 1: A social filter basically, but.
Speaker 7: Only a certain percent of people with touretts, like the
Speaker 7: people like when you're talking about the guy in your
Speaker 7: movie theater, I forgot what you said. You're just yelling
Speaker 7: sh That's one form of turets. But there's another form
Speaker 7: of turets, where if there is a socially unacceptable word,
Speaker 7: they will say it, not voluntarily it just happens.
Speaker 1: Like if they see a woman, they might be like.
Speaker 7: Bitch, cunt, But it's not because they want to call
Speaker 7: her a bitch or a cunt.
Speaker 1: It's just that's what happens.
Speaker 4: They just don't have the filter in their brain to
Speaker 4: tell them not to say it, so it just automatically
Speaker 4: comes out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think he's running around the house just
Speaker 1: saying that ship ship.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I really know, I don't think
Speaker 3: so so.
Speaker 1: But when he don't see exactly, that's what I think
Speaker 1: that happens.
Speaker 6: But if you if black people around the funk out,
Speaker 6: is that what we're saying.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's how it works.
Speaker 1: That's really how it works.
Speaker 3: That's the disease.
Speaker 4: So I think that's part of the backlass in the
Speaker 4: conversation where people would giving him bail and they was,
Speaker 4: excuse me, disorder.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah, but that's how it works.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you can catch it like a white
Speaker 1: person can be like nigger. Should I call a little
Speaker 1: bit of the right. You can't funk me up for that.
Speaker 4: You're right, good point, disorder exactly me be very clear.
Speaker 4: But I think that's why they give him the graces
Speaker 4: they give them because.
Speaker 1: That's just I'm education on social turetts.
Speaker 6: I didn't there are varying versions of it, yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: like you know, you know so, but nevertheless.
Speaker 2: Some black people don't care about all that ship I'm
Speaker 2: one of them, so I'm just damn that's kind of yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, never mind.
Speaker 4: But that's a part of trip. I don't understand what
Speaker 4: you mean when you say you want of them, like
Speaker 4: you don't give him. I blame more so the people who, yeah,
Speaker 4: like it was a two hour delay they have and
Speaker 4: they didn't cut that out, and it was other stuff
Speaker 4: that they cut out, but they felt like it was
Speaker 4: acceptable to have Nigga Yield in the background with Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan's and what's his name? Also Palestine.
Speaker 4: You can cut out Oconola, you're right, well sorry since
Speaker 4: I'm mispronouncing your name.
Speaker 7: But they took her saying free Palestine out. You couldn't
Speaker 7: take out buddy saying nigger bitch or nigger whatever the.
Speaker 3: Yo like a quick little't you that's quick? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 3: they could have did that because it.
Speaker 7: Wasn't even like it was super loud, like you could
Speaker 7: have easily. I mean, I don't even do audio or
Speaker 7: I could have fucking did that ship?
Speaker 3: They didn't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's the part to me. No, no, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's your what's your stance on it
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: I just think they should have cut it out.
Speaker 4: I can't blame him for his just his disorder, and
Speaker 4: they prefaced it over. I think the loud speakers that
Speaker 4: you know, he would he would be here because they
Speaker 4: were celebrating this movie and they let people know that
Speaker 4: they may be outburst throughout the night.
Speaker 3: They did. And I think that Michael.
Speaker 1: Be Jordan, it could be. It could be either.
Speaker 4: It was both, you know so and they I think
Speaker 4: that they were very perfect as they were presenting the
Speaker 4: award to not let it, you know, wave them off
Speaker 4: of what they were doing.
Speaker 3: So couldn't be me.
Speaker 1: Here who said it first? Who said that ship? I
Speaker 1: saw that they were, they were ready. I would have
Speaker 1: broke I'd.
Speaker 2: Be like what I guess My thing too, is that, like,
Speaker 2: why did he only say when they were up there?
Speaker 3: If it was, that's that's part of it. That's part
Speaker 3: of the disorder.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, what I'm saying. But so what it
Speaker 2: is about about del Roy and Michael B. That made
Speaker 2: him say versus somebody else blame again, but it was
Speaker 2: other black people presenting.
Speaker 7: Right, I don't know, but I know he definitely yelled
Speaker 7: shut the fuck up to some other people like.
Speaker 1: Particular.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean there was other niggas up there.
Speaker 1: Why ain't saying that?
Speaker 6: I don't know, well, because I you know, I think
Speaker 6: it's so randomized.
Speaker 1: Not that I I haven't understand.
Speaker 6: I get that it's so randomized that that it may
Speaker 6: not have triggered for the other people. Maybe they were
Speaker 6: just so black for him, there's no doubt. Maybe a
Speaker 6: paper back brown spike.
Speaker 3: You'd have just put saying in front of it.
Speaker 2: So that yeah, that that, but that does question bring
Speaker 2: me questions and like, yeah, why.
Speaker 3: Did he say when other niggas presented? So so.
Speaker 6: Myself also is that we're there because I was waiting
Speaker 6: for like, I know you mentioned to shut the funk
Speaker 6: up thing? But where the other to your question? Where
Speaker 6: there other instances throughout the evening of him saying it
Speaker 6: to other black people we haven't had.
Speaker 1: But that could happen.
Speaker 7: But it could also be that because I mean, they're
Speaker 7: uncontrollable tics. So it could just be that the tick
Speaker 7: just didn't happen with certain black people.
Speaker 1: It just happened to happen when those.
Speaker 3: Two were up there.
Speaker 1: I don't The thing about it is, I don't see
Speaker 1: any benefit for him doing this.
Speaker 7: He's absolutely he's up there to to accept an award
Speaker 7: for a film to teach people about tourettes, which I
Speaker 7: haven't seen the film.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's you've learned a lot.
Speaker 1: They just don't give a sucks. But I don't.
Speaker 7: And and the whole thing is, I think him being
Speaker 7: there was was supposed to push the narrative that people
Speaker 7: with tourettes deserve to be in spaces and we just
Speaker 7: have to give them some grace. I don't see how
Speaker 7: this would be any benefit for him proving that point,
Speaker 7: if we should be in spaces, him purposely yelling out
Speaker 7: the N word to Michael B. Jordan Delroy Lindo does
Speaker 7: not benefit him.
Speaker 2: So he uh So, to move on from that part,
Speaker 2: he did later come out with a not necessarily an apology,
Speaker 2: but a statement. A lot of people saying they don't
Speaker 2: do it. Was a lot of people saying that they
Speaker 2: didn't see apology in it. It was just a statement
Speaker 2: saying that you know, uh.
Speaker 7: He said, this is not a word that I would
Speaker 7: ever normally say, and I didn't mean to offend anybody.
Speaker 7: What did they want him to say, like, this is
Speaker 7: what the disorder is essentially?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just explaining that it was more so
Speaker 2: just an explanation as to why it happened and not
Speaker 2: an actual apology.
Speaker 3: Are you talking that's what people? People having a talk?
Speaker 6: Are you talking about what he said or what they
Speaker 6: said after what he said? Not not the not the Bathta.
Speaker 6: Some were offended, they were they were apologetic.
Speaker 3: They're saying that, uh, Davison wasn't No, BBC was.
Speaker 4: Not apologetic, was not apology. They say sorry for I
Speaker 4: thought that was way later. They're the ones we should
Speaker 4: be mad at. That's the way I'm looking at it.
Speaker 7: We I don't really think that I forget the guy's name,
Speaker 7: but he wanted to say Jonathan Davies.
Speaker 3: John John Davidavison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't personally, and I'm not telling any other black
Speaker 7: person what to do. I don't personally have any smoke
Speaker 7: for him. All of my smoke is BBC and BAFTA,
Speaker 7: all of it.
Speaker 4: I don't think that he has to apologize on the statement,
Speaker 4: because that's the disorder. I can't apologize for having the disorder.
Speaker 2: He still could apologies. He can apologize for the for
Speaker 2: the for it.
Speaker 1: He can apologize for the harm that he caused, whether
Speaker 1: it's intention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to find his apology because I did.
Speaker 3: Did you just put yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah this yeah?
Speaker 2: So yeah, he was just like see he's deeply mortified.
Speaker 2: Uh the third paper, I was hard hardened.
Speaker 3: I was hardened. I was.
Speaker 1: What we talked about, right.
Speaker 2: I was in the tendance to celebrate the film of
Speaker 2: my life, I Swear, which more than any film or
Speaker 2: TV documentary, explains the origins, conditions, traits, and manifestations of
Speaker 2: Tourette syndrome. I've spent my life trying to support and
Speaker 2: power to rest community, and to teach empathy, kindness, and
Speaker 2: understanding from others, and I will continue to do so.
Speaker 2: I chose to leave the auditorium early to uh the
Speaker 2: ceremony as as I was aware of the distress my
Speaker 2: tics were causing. So again, I think he's explaining what
Speaker 2: he did, but he didn't.
Speaker 3: He didn't apologize for the slur.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Yeah, and that's what people have I
Speaker 2: see a lot of people having a problem with that part.
Speaker 3: It's like, dog, all you could have just said, that's cool.
Speaker 3: All you have to do.
Speaker 6: I don't know what you'll want from me.
Speaker 1: Don't bring your black around me, around me.
Speaker 4: For reason, my world just censored. If you watch my
Speaker 4: goddamn movie, you know how this goal. Yeah, he kind
Speaker 4: of said that too.
Speaker 2: He's just like, yo, that's why the movie is so
Speaker 2: important that this was promo.
Speaker 4: I saw people saying that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw people saying like, I can't win.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: He's like, but really, though, just just apologize for it, bro,
Speaker 2: Just just say, look, I'm sorry. Like at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, I'm just sorry. I know it caused
Speaker 2: a lot of horm and I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: I do agree with you guys, Like the more information
Speaker 6: came out. The glaring part about all of this, where
Speaker 6: no one really would have known it would have been
Speaker 6: something we have heard about was the BBC, Like, how do.
Speaker 1: You just not cut this out? It just makes absolutely
Speaker 1: no sense.
Speaker 3: And why wouldn't you cut it out? It just makes
Speaker 3: no sense at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, it ultimately falls on them. I
Speaker 2: agree with y'all, it does. It ultimately falls on them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, man, it's it's really caused a bit
Speaker 2: of a stir so. Recently there was an na A
Speaker 2: CP Awards, which obviously is a black event, and people
Speaker 2: there started addressing him. Had a comedian what's his name,
Speaker 2: He made light of the situation. If there's any white
Speaker 2: men in the room, just read the room. You can't
Speaker 2: do that. Ship here, take your medication, leave or whatever.
Speaker 2: So you know, he made he made it light of
Speaker 2: the situation. The actress from Sinners, I can't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know her actual name, but she made what's
Speaker 2: her name, Jamie Lawson. She made a statement as well,
Speaker 2: saying that it was, you know, basically irresponsible of BBC
Speaker 2: back to saying that he was basically exploited.
Speaker 3: So she said they had all every.
Speaker 4: Opportunity to make this not happen, and they chose to Eric.
Speaker 3: So I thought that was a good statement.
Speaker 2: And then Derl Roy Lindo and Ryan Coogler addressed it
Speaker 2: as well when they were stepped. I think I can't
Speaker 2: remember presenting or accepting the award, but he was just
Speaker 2: saying there were just saying he appreciated all the support
Speaker 2: that he that they've been receiving for you know, what
Speaker 2: happened to them, because you could just tell on their faces. Man,
Speaker 2: if y'all haven't seen it, like they were just like
Speaker 2: I could be joining.
Speaker 6: Her to clinch his job, get on the stay because
Speaker 6: they probably didn't know, right, they didn't.
Speaker 3: Know it all night, doing it all night.
Speaker 1: He just yeah, so they probably did assume it was him.
Speaker 7: See, I didn't watch the whole thing, So when I
Speaker 7: saw it, I was like, I wouldn't have known who
Speaker 7: did it.
Speaker 4: You did assume it was him because he had been
Speaker 4: doing it. That wouldn't the first outbreak of the mind. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: I mean so.
Speaker 6: If and I don't know, if they have an understanding
Speaker 6: of what it is, do they have a right to
Speaker 6: be upset?
Speaker 3: Of course every black persons be upset. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: you hear it. You're still gonna Yeah, it's still gonna
Speaker 3: affect you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If you dim I again, direct my anger at BBC
Speaker 4: and Bathtub because.
Speaker 1: You're talking about it.
Speaker 6: That's the pubbling talking about them when what happened to them,
Speaker 6: Like say, for instand it never got out. They know
Speaker 6: he's there, he's been doing this the whole damn night.
Speaker 6: You know something they're probably tired of hearing the ship
Speaker 6: by now. But then you get up there and then
Speaker 6: you're called this slurb by somebody who has this uncontrollable
Speaker 6: thing because of his disorder. You know, if you if
Speaker 6: you know, understand that, can you be like, well, you know,
Speaker 6: that's just that's just that's just John Davidson. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: think I think it was just the timing of it
Speaker 6: was just so it's just the way it happened, I
Speaker 6: think is what really caught them off guard. So even
Speaker 6: if you're hearing that all night, his outbursts, but then
Speaker 6: you're in the moment of Sinners, which has so much
Speaker 6: meaning to it, and he says that, it's like.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, what the hell?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, especially if you got other
Speaker 2: black people that was that was presenting before them.
Speaker 7: And you also have to consider den Roy Lindo is
Speaker 7: much older than us. So the fact that Ken didn't
Speaker 7: even know exactly how this goes.
Speaker 1: God damn well, del del Roy bought that ship. Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan probably body Delroy is still mad. Delay said about
Speaker 1: about none of that couple your mouth. Don't you know
Speaker 1: how they doing church?
Speaker 6: You gotta walk out there's definitely a lot of you know,
Speaker 6: you know that that's that's you know, and I feel them.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how many times have been called
Speaker 1: niggas facts a lot. That's why the n W A
Speaker 1: c P.
Speaker 6: They don't care about whatever it is, you know, like
Speaker 6: you know, you know, that's why.
Speaker 3: They say, that's why the monkeys.
Speaker 1: What what you said was anything about it monkeys?
Speaker 7: Well, what you're about to say, that's why them what No,
Speaker 7: I want to know what you was he gonna say, right, yeah,
Speaker 7: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know that time.
Speaker 6: What I was gonna say is there's a reason why
Speaker 6: we keep them in the back room, Spike. We keep
Speaker 6: them away from the public because we don't know how
Speaker 6: they's gonna act when they get around other folks.
Speaker 1: What I'm.
Speaker 6: But this this, but this is Sunday when you got
Speaker 6: That's why I was like, why are you gonna start
Speaker 6: with me Sunday? That was one of the things that
Speaker 6: I was that I was saying. I granted, understand he's
Speaker 6: at the public man, blah blah blah, But because Merrily like, hey, look,
Speaker 6: we're gonna keep you back here because when you get
Speaker 6: around folks, they don't know how you are, how you behave,
Speaker 6: or how they deal with it. They might not have
Speaker 6: to say some sort of tolerance. That's how we grew up,
Speaker 6: that's how we grew up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: But the host came out and said, like, look, we
Speaker 7: have him here and this is going to happen. I
Speaker 7: believe he said that before any of this happened, so
Speaker 7: they they should have expected something.
Speaker 1: But that does not excuse black folks.
Speaker 7: Being emotionally hurt. Yeah, triggered by somebody yelling out nigger bitch.
Speaker 4: And there's also you're absolutely right, there's a theory online
Speaker 4: as well that this is like a rage marketing campagn
Speaker 4: because when was the last time anybody talked about.
Speaker 3: Best I don't you wanted reasons? You don't even know
Speaker 3: what it is they were saying.
Speaker 4: That could be one of the reasons, because there's no
Speaker 4: reason that BBC wouldn't cut it out. But now we've
Speaker 4: been talking about this award show for the last two
Speaker 4: weeks that no one's ever mentioned.
Speaker 7: But this is this is pretty I know everybody loves
Speaker 7: to say, oh, you know, even negative, the negative, which
Speaker 7: is not really true. I don't know what you're saying
Speaker 7: makes sense, but I don't know if if BAFTA would
Speaker 7: This is not a good look. This is a really
Speaker 7: bad look for BAFTA unless BAFTA didn't have any control
Speaker 7: of the editing, if it was more BBC versus BAFTA.
Speaker 1: I don't know who was in, you know.
Speaker 6: And one of the judges from the panel he quit.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys saw that, like he
Speaker 6: resigned from uh the border.
Speaker 1: There's a black woman that quit too.
Speaker 3: Yeah she didn't, yeah she was. See.
Speaker 4: That makes me think even more than this conversations being
Speaker 4: held like we've this because.
Speaker 3: She was just like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's supported. But the theory is,
Speaker 6: I think this kind of support with Mike is saying,
Speaker 6: and I'm in agreement, like this isn't a good look
Speaker 6: for them. So why would they go with rage marketing
Speaker 6: when there's such a negative response. You got people quitting,
Speaker 6: you got all these like it's not good for them.
Speaker 7: Because Free Palestine would have been in a sense rage
Speaker 7: marketing because a lot of people don't like that shit neither,
Speaker 7: But at least honestly, leaving in Free Palestine would have
Speaker 7: been better for them with marketing because you would have
Speaker 7: gotten the people that are pissed off about it. But
Speaker 7: you would have also gotten the people that are like, oh,
Speaker 7: fuck yeah, they aired a black woman saying free Palestine.
Speaker 7: Fuck yeah, I'm gonna go watch bath the next time.
Speaker 7: And then you got the other people that the conservatives
Speaker 7: that are like, this is bullshit, this is pissed, you
Speaker 7: know whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 7: I believe that they left it in. But also I
Speaker 7: don't have any other excuse. Yeah, I got nothing for
Speaker 7: why they left it. I have Unless they just don't
Speaker 7: give a fuck about how black feel.
Speaker 6: That's it. It's just yeah, I think it's inconsequential for them.
Speaker 6: I think they just don't give I think they hear that.
Speaker 6: They just really it didn't even.
Speaker 1: Cross their mind.
Speaker 3: That's crazy that.
Speaker 6: We need to edit out nigger, bitch. So I'll tell
Speaker 6: you some of the which is insane. Even if I'm sorry, right,
Speaker 6: even if nigger wasn't the one that got you, bitch,
Speaker 6: if he said it should have been the one, I'm
Speaker 6: making that up.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not he said, I thought he said.
Speaker 3: To your point, it sounds like.
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Speaker 1: So John T.
Speaker 2: Richardson, a producer and editor, resigned from BAP to Emergency
Speaker 2: an Emerging Talent judge and panel. He withdrew his participation
Speaker 2: in response to the organization's handling of the incident during
Speaker 2: the during the award. He's an editor, He's a producer
Speaker 2: and editor. He could have came from a higher up
Speaker 2: for you not to do it. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He would, he would, he would snitch, he whistle blood.
Speaker 2: But I'm not taking that down, not at all, not
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's from BAP to then BBC had some They
Speaker 2: had some resigns too, so Tim Davey and news UH
Speaker 2: CEO Deborah Turns resigned following the intense controversial regarding to
Speaker 2: misleading editing.
Speaker 3: Uh the oh wait, no, this is something else.
Speaker 6: This is they may need to go back and be
Speaker 6: hard to find some damn get a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is job.
Speaker 6: Job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: So apparently it's been some other incidents too, because there's
Speaker 2: a couple other people left for some different reasons.
Speaker 3: But what had they had to do with editing and stuff?
Speaker 3: So this was just the final straw. Yeah, so they
Speaker 3: got a truck, so they got seem like they got
Speaker 3: a track.
Speaker 1: That's that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because you just I mean, hey, players fuck up, right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: they just fucked up, lessons learned, and.
Speaker 1: They're gonna move on to leave because of that.
Speaker 6: And maybe the response, you know, it's a lot so
Speaker 6: there must be some other ship happening that we don't
Speaker 6: know about it.
Speaker 7: I mean, this is probably enough, especially if they're black, though.
Speaker 7: I think it's enough for them to be like, I'm
Speaker 7: not working for this company because the thing that the thing.
Speaker 3: That sucks is.
Speaker 7: We got everybody out here analyzing the guy with Terressa's
Speaker 7: intent when that is not in my opinion, that's not
Speaker 7: even what the discussion should be about. Discussion should be
Speaker 7: about the emotional impac act on black people, period, and
Speaker 7: I don't think he's responsible to a degree.
Speaker 1: It's like ten percent.
Speaker 7: The other ninety is split between Bathto and BBC, and
Speaker 7: that's why I think we should be mad at and
Speaker 7: unfortunately that's not the discussion. So maybe these black people
Speaker 7: were just like, look, I'm pissed off that y'all are
Speaker 7: getting away with this. You got it out here looking
Speaker 7: like black people don't care about people with disabilities. Got
Speaker 7: you got black people out here attacking disabled people when
Speaker 7: they should be attacking you, motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm leaving.
Speaker 7: And it took y'all damn near a week to respond
Speaker 7: and apologize. Fuck out of here, Nope, I quit.
Speaker 4: Just like they're asking black people to take the back
Speaker 4: seat to the disorder.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, and they not doing it.
Speaker 7: I just hate that now black folks, even black folks
Speaker 7: who were fully aware of what Tourett's is, now black
Speaker 7: folks are now being like, well, fuck Tourett's not fuck
Speaker 7: that when it should be an understanding and a learning experience.
Speaker 7: But that is partly on John Dave Davidson. It's partly
Speaker 7: on him, because I'm with Rod he he could have said, Look,
Speaker 7: this is my disorder, this is the reason for what happened.
Speaker 7: But I am still extremely apologetic for any person that
Speaker 7: I heard I thought I had saw that.
Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, that was part of the part of
Speaker 3: the issue people were having.
Speaker 7: So that's the part that because now we're gonna look
Speaker 7: at anybody with TRETT to be like you would, I
Speaker 7: wish you would. Yeah, you can yell at I don't
Speaker 7: give an up. You've been not saying.
Speaker 1: You better not say no, you better not say nothing.
Speaker 1: But sucking up. That's the part that sucks. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is interesting because you know we we I
Speaker 6: would assume we've all been or been around yes, okay,
Speaker 6: so and we've all been like you know turettes. We
Speaker 6: understood it and moved, but not to the point where
Speaker 6: someone's been called a inward.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's never personalized right at me?
Speaker 6: Right, So it really changed everything because we understood the
Speaker 6: disorder and what it does and how it works, and
Speaker 6: like you said, it has never been sent or personalized
Speaker 6: towards someone or used in this manner towards somewhere where
Speaker 6: now the whole conversation has changed. It's like, oh shit,
Speaker 6: this dude got called what they got called and then
Speaker 6: were on stage in public. That's a public embarrassment. Yes, yes,
Speaker 6: yeah it is. And so now everybody's like, what you know, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I feel like the conversation has shifted.
Speaker 7: It has because I see a lot of people on
Speaker 7: Twitter that were like, is not an excuse to be racist?
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, you're you're.
Speaker 4: Not understanding what Thrett's is then, because it's not an
Speaker 4: excuse to be racist.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that he's actually racist. I don't
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know that.
Speaker 7: I'm willing to do the emotional labor to figure it out,
Speaker 7: but I don't know if he's racist.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: And if he is racist, does that change it? Yes? Absolutely.
Speaker 4: If I hear him and he's just talking normal conversation,
Speaker 4: he's just like, Yeah, these fucking niggas out here. But
Speaker 4: then it's different. You like me, you ain't taking right
Speaker 4: now normal conversation flow.
Speaker 6: He can't watch Centers boys in the hood, min it's
Speaker 6: a society's snowfall.
Speaker 4: I guess to your point too, can most of the
Speaker 4: people with that I've been around in our community, even black,
Speaker 4: So that wouldn't that word wouldn't pop out.
Speaker 7: That also isolates them too, because now they're looking at
Speaker 7: all these black people attacking people with tourettes and they're like, Okay,
Speaker 7: I'm black and I had to and I.
Speaker 1: Understand how this works.
Speaker 7: But if I tried to go and explain this to
Speaker 7: my friends who are pissed off, they're going to attack me.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like the whole conversation.
Speaker 7: That was happening with Black Lives Matter, where black lives
Speaker 7: Black people were very much in support of other black
Speaker 7: people until they found out that they're gay or something,
Speaker 7: and then it's, oh, wait, nah, Black Lives Matter, except
Speaker 7: you guys, we're not We're not We're not including y'all
Speaker 7: in the conversation. But yeah, black people with tourett's, Like,
Speaker 7: where do they even fit in with this conversation?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: When somebody asked them, you know, we are, so we
Speaker 6: asking how that shit works because because Ron, we want
Speaker 6: to know it.
Speaker 1: We want to understand how should we look at him?
Speaker 1: You got it?
Speaker 6: You break that ship down to me, So I need
Speaker 6: to know how the process will happened with him.
Speaker 4: That would be a good interview. I would want to
Speaker 4: hear that has this happened to him before? Happened to
Speaker 4: who to guy John Davidson. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I've never heard.
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure it has. You.
Speaker 3: Sure he's called somebody in a nigga before?
Speaker 1: I would be I'd be willing to bet he has.
Speaker 1: That's what I need to know.
Speaker 3: I need to know have you ever done this before?
Speaker 3: This is your first time doing it?
Speaker 7: I'm sure he has because because the the like I said,
Speaker 7: the probably that he has it's like I don't know
Speaker 7: what it's called, but it's like a completely like isolated
Speaker 7: part of turets. It's only like ten or twenty percent
Speaker 7: of people trets have that type of tourette.
Speaker 3: But how was he not able to say it anymore?
Speaker 1: In any other interviews? We just didn't get.
Speaker 2: I feel like that would have came out somewhere. I
Speaker 2: feel like somebody would would have. I'm with you, I
Speaker 2: feel like we.
Speaker 3: Would have heard. I feel like famous, though, like nobody will.
Speaker 1: Be in No, No, he's talking about that of him
Speaker 1: calling other people.
Speaker 7: But here again, the conversation is still black people versus
Speaker 7: John Davidson. Yeah, the conversation is still that, And in
Speaker 7: my opinion, I just don't know why we're still like,
Speaker 7: do we really think that he did it on purpose?
Speaker 7: If we don't think he did it on purpose, and
Speaker 7: why are we still talking about this aspect?
Speaker 1: Because it is it is. It is.
Speaker 4: Peculiar that it hasn't happened. It only happened at one time.
Speaker 4: It was the whole night.
Speaker 7: I get you, but we're also dealing with with two
Speaker 7: things that cannot always be explained logically, disabilities and people's
Speaker 7: emotional responses to anything. You can never say, oh well,
Speaker 7: in this aspect and in this context, this will always happen.
Speaker 1: This might be the first time, it might be, and
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 2: I think that's enough to bother people this one time,
Speaker 2: in this one particular.
Speaker 7: You know why it would make sense to me because
Speaker 7: in that moment, his brain knows the.
Speaker 8: Worst thing that can happen right now is you yelled
Speaker 8: nigger at these two black people on stage, And because
Speaker 8: like Spike said earlier, that filter is not there, that's
Speaker 8: the first thing that comes out.
Speaker 4: And it's probably his first time in a room like that,
Speaker 4: getting an award being celebrated, so I could see he
Speaker 4: ain't been around.
Speaker 7: Him.
Speaker 1: I tell you, it was first hold that ship back.
Speaker 1: He's been charging up like a anime character.
Speaker 2: Bro was of purple out there.
Speaker 4: But you know what, y'all making jokes, But I'm actually
Speaker 4: kind of with y'all. It could have been that he's
Speaker 4: been holding that back all the fighting the ticks all night,
Speaker 4: and in that particular moment he lost the battle, had.
Speaker 1: Lost the war.
Speaker 4: He's been holding it back all night.
Speaker 1: It was just like, I'm fighting this and then in that.
Speaker 6: Moment, that's why he didn't call anybody else in because
Speaker 6: you know, he was like, I got this, I got it,
Speaker 6: I got it. Probably he probably pitching himself. You're probably
Speaker 6: doing all kind of ship. But its just like he
Speaker 6: got to that moment like, nah, this this it's arrassed.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Man. He just he got the about
Speaker 1: it there, because that was a smart thing. Was he got.
Speaker 6: Oh no, I got try to hear that ship. Once
Speaker 6: the dam was burst, Bro, everybody was gonna get it.
Speaker 6: It was to be all counselor all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it sucked. Man.
Speaker 2: It was an unfortunate moment on both sides. And I
Speaker 2: think that's the thing that that that needs to be acknowledged.
Speaker 2: It's unfortunately on both sides to the rex community Black community,
Speaker 2: like might keep expressing like it's it's the network's fault
Speaker 2: and it's the awards UH Association's fault for not protecting
Speaker 2: these two groups in this moment.
Speaker 4: So yeah, damn this to MAJO. They really didn't handle
Speaker 4: in class.
Speaker 7: I don't have that in me, even if you got trust.
Speaker 1: Laugh. That's that's my problem.
Speaker 4: Because if I knew it was him, and I knew
Speaker 4: he couldn't control it, laughed, and that would have been terrible.
Speaker 1: Would my career would have been done?
Speaker 4: They had to write two people on stage because if
Speaker 4: anybody else had been.
Speaker 1: I was just.
Speaker 3: In another way of.
Speaker 1: That man.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was man pissed. Yeah I can't I saw it,
Speaker 2: but I can't remember he's yeah, he knew he was
Speaker 2: saying like something you knew what he's saying or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's it's people out there like nah, I mean.
Speaker 1: You know, disorder work, but it is kind of weird.
Speaker 6: It ain't been around a lot of black people like
Speaker 6: you don't you know, So it's just like I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, So I'm gonna let go something I probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: let go.
Speaker 4: But there have been conversations that we've been talking about
Speaker 4: where it it references a certain community, and I will
Speaker 4: think about slurs and be like, man, it's really fucked
Speaker 4: up that they get called this or they get called that.
Speaker 4: And I've almost had for it slips a few times,
Speaker 4: but I've caught myself.
Speaker 1: And it hasn't come out.
Speaker 7: And I always think about how fucked up would it
Speaker 7: be if we're talking about any community and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 7: this is fucked up how.
Speaker 1: They're how they're.
Speaker 7: Done, and then that slur slips out, and it's like, well, fuck,
Speaker 7: I didn't mean to call them that.
Speaker 4: It was in my head because I think it's fucked
Speaker 4: up that they are called that. That could be how
Speaker 4: to a degree, the Tourettes works, but my brain has
Speaker 4: the filter to say, look, that's fucked up.
Speaker 1: That word should never come out.
Speaker 3: Their brain doesn't.
Speaker 1: Have that filter.
Speaker 3: I get it, but it's just not enough.
Speaker 1: I feel you. I'm not blaming no black person for
Speaker 1: being upset. Yeah, we'll just come over here and us
Speaker 1: go ahead. I mean we're talking about.
Speaker 7: I guess I was gonna say with what you just said.
Speaker 7: I feel the same way about the B word, like
Speaker 7: I stop using it. But since I'm around people who
Speaker 7: say it so much, like I'd be afraid, like dang,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna slip up and say it again.
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying my best not to.
Speaker 7: Even the music I listen to when I'm rapping, I'm
Speaker 7: like I'm filtering myself.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like I know I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna slip.
Speaker 7: I really hope it never happens, but it's probably gonna
Speaker 7: happen again. So I feel sometimes, no, well, basically what
Speaker 7: you're saying right now, I'm think about somebody who's probably
Speaker 7: surrounded who's trying not to be racist in a racist family,
Speaker 7: and it's hearing that word all the time, And if
Speaker 7: they slip up and say it, should I give them grace?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, oh no, if you ain't got to rent, I
Speaker 4: don't give fuck what you hear you been, That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the B word is.
Speaker 7: I don't like to say it, but it does come
Speaker 7: out from me like bitch, ass, motherfucker. But I will say,
Speaker 7: and this is not better. I could not take the
Speaker 7: lot time I called a woman a bitch. But that's
Speaker 7: not better. It's not better. I should just not use
Speaker 7: the word period. But Jalen's right.
Speaker 4: You know, you hear it the video games, the music,
Speaker 4: the movies.
Speaker 1: You know it affects me. It's an effect in him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, hopefully that doesn't take away from people checking
Speaker 7: out his film.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it. Maybe it's in the movie. Maybe
Speaker 4: he's calling people niggers in the movie. If it's in
Speaker 4: the movie where that makes you feel better, well, it's well,
Speaker 4: it's not a it's not a feel better situation for me.
Speaker 3: I'm just it's just I'm just.
Speaker 4: Wondering, like if if he has, like I'm sure, why,
Speaker 4: why do you guys.
Speaker 6: Think is this conversation has lingered as long as it does.
Speaker 7: It's the N word, and it's and it's and it's
Speaker 7: it's a context that we're not familiar with. This has
Speaker 7: never happened in a public setting where a motherfucker was
Speaker 7: called nigger but actually had.
Speaker 1: It's like you got the it's not brought the car and.
Speaker 4: Figured it out, like, motherfucker, we got ya. I think
Speaker 4: that's all it is.
Speaker 2: Many the black is pushing back on that ship like no,
Speaker 2: I don't don't think y'all got passes, But that's what that.
Speaker 6: Is, right, So it is I get it and it's weird.
Speaker 6: And again I was like, I don't. I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know. Like I saw it. I
Speaker 6: was like, Tourette's okay, makes sense, got it. But I'm
Speaker 6: still at the same time, they gotta figure out a
Speaker 6: way to kind of control, like what are the controls
Speaker 6: in place to protect them from somebody with Trette? And
Speaker 6: they were not protected.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but that's what he John was saying, was that,
Speaker 2: like he was, he found it weird that there was
Speaker 2: a microphone near him.
Speaker 7: But they also said that I don't know if I
Speaker 7: believe it, but they also said it was a microphone
Speaker 7: that was that wasn't well to catch the roof like
Speaker 7: the clapping and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe him. You would know
Speaker 3: better than me.
Speaker 1: So it's not like bath never dealt with somebody that
Speaker 1: rets before what to do that part exactly.
Speaker 7: So they should have been they should have been more
Speaker 7: prepared when when people are on stage talking, turn his mic.
Speaker 3: Off, get him.
Speaker 4: It's funny that you say about the microphone, because if
Speaker 4: you think to the Chris Rock and Will Smith ship
Speaker 4: like we didn't hear what Will Smith said?
Speaker 3: If you picked it. We heard all we mouthed. We
Speaker 3: heard what I'm thinking back. Okay, maybe it was on
Speaker 3: Chris Rocks. He was so loud.
Speaker 1: So it is a mic to pick.
Speaker 3: Up the room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mighty to pick up the ru But
Speaker 2: they should have turned his off when people were presenting,
Speaker 2: that's all.
Speaker 3: And again, like they had two hours to fix this problem.
Speaker 3: That's the greatious spoil right to.
Speaker 1: Two hours to fix this problem. And they fixed it.
Speaker 3: For others, but not this one.
Speaker 7: And you know what, even if they turned his mind off,
Speaker 7: it would have still picked up another mic.
Speaker 3: So wouldn't That wouldn't fixed anything.
Speaker 1: I really want to know why they just didn't do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the question.
Speaker 1: Like it has to be that nobody nobody asked them.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think it's have been given a good
Speaker 2: response that that just makes no sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, basically mm hmmm, because they're probably sitting back being like,
Speaker 7: well ship, this is niggers fighting the people with turrets.
Speaker 3: We're good. We haven't let them fight it out. He
Speaker 3: did it.
Speaker 1: Until it really comes back on us, we ain't got
Speaker 1: to worry about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like y'all be careful out there because
Speaker 6: It sounds like if black folks are not letting this
Speaker 6: ship go, they freached the tolerance at that point, like, man,
Speaker 6: we don't give a fuck, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 1: Stop this ship?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm trying to see if they said, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, motherfucker get his asship doing some ship like this.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what it was real quick. And this is
Speaker 2: the last part. They said that they didn't hear hear it.
Speaker 4: During the BBC producers say they didn't hear the N
Speaker 4: words slur as working in a truck following second Baptist,
Speaker 4: they should all be fired.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm one hundred yes, Because how did you pick
Speaker 6: up because you probably have somebody around taking notes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you think?
Speaker 1: What did you think? What did you think?
Speaker 4: Like the faces said, somebody said something fucked up?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, And again I think if if they didn't hear it,
Speaker 6: somebody around should have been taking notes because they had.
Speaker 1: They heard free Palestine, right, they heard that very well.
Speaker 1: It's not an excuse. That's a terrible excuse because they
Speaker 1: edited something out. They gotta die. That's not gonna work.
Speaker 7: This sounds that excuse Y'll be giving me when y'll
Speaker 7: be leaving my ship. In the videos and not just
Speaker 7: saying it sounds like.
Speaker 3: That excuse, don't just don't say it's don't say you're
Speaker 3: gonna blame me.
Speaker 1: I ain't hear it. Maybe they they got a point
Speaker 1: there was bad. Yeah, you do the micras.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go check out his film this week. I'm
Speaker 7: gonna watch it because I don't know much about Tourette's.
Speaker 4: I had to google all that stuff because I had
Speaker 4: I had literally had to google.
Speaker 1: I'm glad, will you can you be racist with Terrett?
Speaker 1: Something like that?
Speaker 7: I had to google because I wanted to see, like, well,
Speaker 7: I think I google can Turetts make you say racist?
Speaker 1: Ship?
Speaker 7: Because I've been around people with Thurets and they've never
Speaker 7: said anything racist. But I've definitely heard him be like,
Speaker 7: fucking cut bitch. I've heard that before, you fucking dick sucker.
Speaker 7: I've heard that, But I've never heard any of them
Speaker 7: say anything racist.
Speaker 4: They said he shouted a number of phrases ding the
Speaker 4: first twenty minutes of awards, including boring, bullshit, crazy, boring.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not lying.
Speaker 6: I wish I would have been dead for that, brod.
Speaker 1: They ed, you don't watch the whole ship you know it.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't remember what I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: the ship was boring. They probably, I'm saying I should
Speaker 2: have edited it out. They don't want nobody up. Damn,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Him his award to.
Speaker 7: Wait wait also, that might that makes it make more sense.
Speaker 7: That makes it make more sense.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that his award was his movie, and
Speaker 4: that makes it make more sense to wow up.
Speaker 1: They should have known. Not the bad black people get
Speaker 1: up there to get out award. Another point, No, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of with kN on that I'm kind of with n.
Speaker 3: Probably should have been somebody he was familiar.
Speaker 7: With, yes, because because no, I'm with Ken on this one.
Speaker 7: Why would you put two black people up there with
Speaker 7: the fear that he might say a certain thing?
Speaker 1: You set them up.
Speaker 3: It's not out the realm of possibility that happens.
Speaker 1: Right, But what could he possibly say to a white man?
Speaker 7: You put a regular ass, fucking the no lip dude
Speaker 7: that we talked about last week, put him up there
Speaker 7: to present this award.
Speaker 4: What could he say to him that's going to be offensive? Cracker, Like,
Speaker 4: come on, what could he say to him?
Speaker 1: Hackerwood ship. Right, you know what I'm saying, Office Fly.
Speaker 1: I'm with Ken on this one. This sounds like they
Speaker 1: kind of set them up.
Speaker 7: For failure because somebody in the room should have thought,
Speaker 7: maybe this might be not be a good idea. Let's
Speaker 7: put a regular ass, straight white dude up there, because
Speaker 7: what could he possibly say about him?
Speaker 3: And then it goes back to the theory about this
Speaker 3: being raised. Baby.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm just would they be up and present
Speaker 4: him with the award ship.
Speaker 1: I'm not really against your theory, Spike, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not. They threw a bar. Don want to see
Speaker 3: if you're blow up? Definitely blew up? All right, man,
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna wrap this up.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that this was this was wild. I did
Speaker 3: not expect this to.
Speaker 2: Be still going on by the recording again, but yeah,
Speaker 2: here we go ahead. Hey, I guess it's good that
Speaker 2: we waited because it's been you know, stuff to come
Speaker 2: out since then.
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, there you haven't once you got your
Speaker 4: thoughts on it. Man, leave you what you chicked? That
Speaker 4: said fart nigger. She should have said she had trads.
Speaker 4: Damn she could have got away.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying a little, a little, but
Speaker 2: now she knows that they know, they're gonna say, now,
Speaker 2: I got I got a slight.
Speaker 1: Spectrum.
Speaker 4: I'm on the spectrum because it does sound like it
Speaker 4: was a tick.
Speaker 1: She sucked up. Happened a week prior.
Speaker 4: I know she's like, Damn's like, nobody tell me, goddamn
Speaker 4: window broke the cud.
Speaker 1: Yees listening to God.
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