WEBVTT - 2026 BAFTA Controversy 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.680 It was good, y'all, welcome to another frames per Second episode. Man, 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.760 today we're having a conversation. This came out like a 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.520 little bit after we recorded last week. I feel like 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.120 somebody brought it up though before we left. Right right 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.560 said other day we're finished recording, wrapping up. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.800 Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. But yeah, man, 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:29.319 I'm your host. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.080 Rod to the right of mean of the voice you 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.120 heard just now was Kenneth Bing's what's something? One start 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:39.080 up across from him, he got Spike Man with Navana shirt. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.160 Y'all Patroon supporters, you know what I'm saying. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:42.600 See the rock boys. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:49.240 Over there next to him down with the discipline shirt. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:51.240 I like the shirt, Okay, I just don't like the 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.400 smells like smells like teen spirits. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.480 He looked up before he came in. You know, we 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:00.520 got start trap. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:08.240 Look up his shirt bumping some smells like right to 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.039 the essential skin. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:11.160 Hey what you gotta do? 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.880 Man? But yeah, man, we're here to talk about this 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:15.720 the controversy. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:15.920 Man. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.320 Like I said, it happened like right after our recording, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.720 like it happened a day up. So you know we're 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.800 we're we like we're we are we like on this 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.520 but it's still going on though. It's still yeah yeah, yeah, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.240 because they just did something of the na A A 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.959 CP and it's been addressed there. But we'll go through 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.600 all of that. But yeah, just to kind of give 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.600 it a little background on what happened. So yeah, at 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:45.720 the Bafter Bafter Film Awards, John Davidson, he actually was 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.320 being awarded there by a BIB pic called I Swear, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:53.160 but he involuntarily shot a slurred doing Michael B. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:58.560 Jordan and Delroy's Lindo speech. He said, he said, it 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.360 was like, was it just nigger? I thought it was more? 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:03.320 He said what else? 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.000 He said, I don't know, you hosted, can't it's just 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.239 racial slur. Everything says it's just racial slur. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:18.760 I think he said nigga bitch. Didn't he thought nigga nigga. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.480 But anyway, he had he suffers with Rett syndrome. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.440 Uh, and that's what the movie was, you know, essentially 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.519 about that's a that's based on his life or whatever. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.840 But yeah, man, it stirred up. I didn't. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.360 I didn't realize it was going to be going on 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:37.160 as long, but it stirred up a bit of a 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.720 fuss and in like not only in the movie industry, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:46.000 but just around just in general. Can't like what what 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.400 was your what did. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:47.880 You hear about it? 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:52.480 Like what was your thoughts on I know, just the 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:53.480 way he was looking at. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:03.960 Uh yeah, okay, okay, try to get me. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.040 Can't read up on the fee you try to be PC. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.280 No, I'm not. But what when I first saw it? 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.639 I think the first question that came to mind for 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.680 me is where in the hell are you saying that? 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:20.320 And why? 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.720 Like how is that part of your your vernacular? Like 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:28.120 you know what, like you're running around the house. Was 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.520 it part of the script where you recently auditioned for 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:32.520 a Tarantino films? 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:33.880 Like what the hell happened? 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.720 Like how did this become part of one of the 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.040 things that you just randomly just blurt out? I think 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.840 that's part of the condition, though, what that you just 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.840 see something that you just call it what it is? 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:46.680 Like that's what I'm saying. It's like if some things 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:47.160 triggered it. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.160 So seeing black people was a trigger for him to 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.640 say nigger, Like. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.720 I see black people and that's the word. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.440 The first thing to come to mind is joking around, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.000 like but let can't cook for a bit. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.839 So I was trying to say, no, no, he don't 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:04.880 need I. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.360 Keep telling y'all, I keep telling y'all, holes don't need 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:09.120 to be saved. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:09.280 Bro. 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:10.400 Let them do what they do. 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:17.000 Get back on the pole, kids, nous. So you don't 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:18.880 know what No, I know what is? 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.320 You just say random ship, but nigger is part of it. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:23.279 It's not always random. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.320 Yeah, it's so there's a filter in your brain that 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.160 they don't have. The stuff that keep the filter is 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.840 not to say nigger. Well, any word that you genuinally, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.040 genuinely wouldn't say. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.719 It's an unacceptable word, like you know how we you 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.360 might see a gay person and you know that if 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.200 this person over here yells the f slur, that's fucked up, 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.719 you might think that right, Whereas with tourett's. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.160 A social filter basically, but. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.760 Only a certain percent of people with touretts, like the 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.320 people like when you're talking about the guy in your 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.919 movie theater, I forgot what you said. You're just yelling 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.120 sh That's one form of turets. But there's another form 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:08.480 of turets, where if there is a socially unacceptable word, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:12.919 they will say it, not voluntarily it just happens. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.520 Like if they see a woman, they might be like. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.279 Bitch, cunt, But it's not because they want to call 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:19.279 her a bitch or a cunt. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:20.600 It's just that's what happens. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.320 They just don't have the filter in their brain to 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.080 tell them not to say it, so it just automatically 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:26.400 comes out. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:27.840 Yeah. I don't think he's running around the house just 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:28.960 saying that ship ship. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.400 I don't think so. I really know, I don't think 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:32.360 so so. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:37.120 But when he don't see exactly, that's what I think 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:37.880 that happens. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.840 But if you if black people around the funk out, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:42.920 is that what we're saying. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.039 Yep, that's how it works. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.040 That's really how it works. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:46.839 That's the disease. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.400 So I think that's part of the backlass in the 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.120 conversation where people would giving him bail and they was, 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:53.840 excuse me, disorder. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.920 I'm sorry, yeah, but that's how it works. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.760 So I don't think you can catch it like a white 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.680 person can be like nigger. Should I call a little 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.040 bit of the right. You can't funk me up for that. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.320 You're right, good point, disorder exactly me be very clear. 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.440 But I think that's why they give him the graces 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:08.320 they give them because. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:14.760 That's just I'm education on social turetts. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.400 I didn't there are varying versions of it, yeah, you know, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:25.080 like you know, you know so, but nevertheless. 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.200 Some black people don't care about all that ship I'm 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:31.600 one of them, so I'm just damn that's kind of yeah, 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.200 you know, never mind. 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.880 But that's a part of trip. I don't understand what 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.320 you mean when you say you want of them, like 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:42.360 you don't give him. I blame more so the people who, yeah, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.480 like it was a two hour delay they have and 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.120 they didn't cut that out, and it was other stuff 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.520 that they cut out, but they felt like it was 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.120 acceptable to have Nigga Yield in the background with Michael B. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:07:00.280 Jordan's and what's his name? Also Palestine. 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:05.440 You can cut out Oconola, you're right, well sorry since 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:06.599 I'm mispronouncing your name. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.040 But they took her saying free Palestine out. You couldn't 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.480 take out buddy saying nigger bitch or nigger whatever the. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.920 Yo like a quick little't you that's quick? Right? Yeah, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.360 they could have did that because it. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.240 Wasn't even like it was super loud, like you could 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.240 have easily. I mean, I don't even do audio or 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.440 I could have fucking did that ship? 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:26.360 They didn't care. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.239 Yeah that's the part to me. No, no, no, for sure. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.760 But yeah, so that's your what's your stance on it 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:37.240 right now? 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.600 I just think they should have cut it out. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.400 I can't blame him for his just his disorder, and 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.760 they prefaced it over. I think the loud speakers that 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:47.080 you know, he would he would be here because they 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.360 were celebrating this movie and they let people know that 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.280 they may be outburst throughout the night. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.400 They did. And I think that Michael. 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.280 Be Jordan, it could be. It could be either. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.080 It was both, you know so and they I think 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:00.960 that they were very perfect as they were presenting the 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.080 award to not let it, you know, wave them off 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:04.920 of what they were doing. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:06.840 So couldn't be me. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.960 Here who said it first? Who said that ship? I 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.640 saw that they were, they were ready. I would have 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:17.360 broke I'd. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.480 Be like what I guess My thing too, is that, like, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.640 why did he only say when they were up there? 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.240 If it was, that's that's part of it. That's part 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:25.880 of the disorder. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.000 No, no, no, what I'm saying. But so what it 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:33.040 is about about del Roy and Michael B. That made 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.480 him say versus somebody else blame again, but it was 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:37.920 other black people presenting. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.120 Right, I don't know, but I know he definitely yelled 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.120 shut the fuck up to some other people like. 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:44.079 Particular. 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.280 Yeah, but I mean there was other niggas up there. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:47.000 Why ain't saying that? 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.400 I don't know, well, because I you know, I think 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.120 it's so randomized. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:52.480 Not that I I haven't understand. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:57.400 I get that it's so randomized that that it may 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.439 not have triggered for the other people. Maybe they were 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:06.640 just so black for him, there's no doubt. Maybe a 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.040 paper back brown spike. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.120 You'd have just put saying in front of it. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.760 So that yeah, that that, but that does question bring 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.000 me questions and like, yeah, why. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.440 Did he say when other niggas presented? So so. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.280 Myself also is that we're there because I was waiting 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.440 for like, I know you mentioned to shut the funk 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.520 up thing? But where the other to your question? Where 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.600 there other instances throughout the evening of him saying it 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.520 to other black people we haven't had. 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:43.640 But that could happen. 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.760 But it could also be that because I mean, they're 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.719 uncontrollable tics. So it could just be that the tick 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.920 just didn't happen with certain black people. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.160 It just happened to happen when those. 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:53.680 Two were up there. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.600 I don't The thing about it is, I don't see 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.280 any benefit for him doing this. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.440 He's absolutely he's up there to to accept an award 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.240 for a film to teach people about tourettes, which I 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:06.920 haven't seen the film. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:08.480 I'm sure it's you've learned a lot. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.080 They just don't give a sucks. But I don't. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.040 And and the whole thing is, I think him being 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.720 there was was supposed to push the narrative that people 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.760 with tourettes deserve to be in spaces and we just 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.719 have to give them some grace. I don't see how 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.880 this would be any benefit for him proving that point, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.320 if we should be in spaces, him purposely yelling out 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.760 the N word to Michael B. Jordan Delroy Lindo does 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:35.960 not benefit him. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.440 So he uh So, to move on from that part, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:45.600 he did later come out with a not necessarily an apology, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.359 but a statement. A lot of people saying they don't 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.240 do it. Was a lot of people saying that they 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.400 didn't see apology in it. It was just a statement 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.120 saying that you know, uh. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.720 He said, this is not a word that I would 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.600 ever normally say, and I didn't mean to offend anybody. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.199 What did they want him to say, like, this is 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.079 what the disorder is essentially? 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.560 Yeah, he was just explaining that it was more so 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.160 just an explanation as to why it happened and not 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.280 an actual apology. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.480 Are you talking that's what people? People having a talk? 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.800 Are you talking about what he said or what they 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.679 said after what he said? Not not the not the Bathta. 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.880 Some were offended, they were they were apologetic. 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:31.040 They're saying that, uh, Davison wasn't No, BBC was. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:35.520 Not apologetic, was not apology. They say sorry for I 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.480 thought that was way later. They're the ones we should 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.200 be mad at. That's the way I'm looking at it. 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.480 We I don't really think that I forget the guy's name, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:43.920 but he wanted to say Jonathan Davies. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.880 John John Davidavison. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.559 Yeah, I don't. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.360 I don't personally, and I'm not telling any other black 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.400 person what to do. I don't personally have any smoke 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.280 for him. All of my smoke is BBC and BAFTA, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:58.440 all of it. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.920 I don't think that he has to apologize on the statement, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.600 because that's the disorder. I can't apologize for having the disorder. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.640 He still could apologies. He can apologize for the for 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:11.040 the for it. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.600 He can apologize for the harm that he caused, whether 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:14.400 it's intention. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.839 Yeah, I'm trying to find his apology because I did. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.120 Did you just put yeah? 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.240 Yeah this yeah? 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.400 So yeah, he was just like see he's deeply mortified. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:31.199 Uh the third paper, I was hard hardened. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:46.400 I was hardened. I was. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.160 What we talked about, right. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.720 I was in the tendance to celebrate the film of 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.240 my life, I Swear, which more than any film or 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.520 TV documentary, explains the origins, conditions, traits, and manifestations of 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.640 Tourette syndrome. I've spent my life trying to support and 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.520 power to rest community, and to teach empathy, kindness, and 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.280 understanding from others, and I will continue to do so. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.400 I chose to leave the auditorium early to uh the 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.360 ceremony as as I was aware of the distress my 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.720 tics were causing. So again, I think he's explaining what 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.520 he did, but he didn't. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.839 He didn't apologize for the slur. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.199 I'm with you, Yeah, and that's what people have I 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.200 see a lot of people having a problem with that part. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.120 It's like, dog, all you could have just said, that's cool. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:27.800 All you have to do. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.440 I don't know what you'll want from me. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:39.719 Don't bring your black around me, around me. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.120 For reason, my world just censored. If you watch my 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:49.200 goddamn movie, you know how this goal. Yeah, he kind 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:49.880 of said that too. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.520 He's just like, yo, that's why the movie is so 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.679 important that this was promo. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:58.920 I saw people saying that. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.360 Yeah, I saw people saying like, I can't win. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:03.520 You know. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.400 He's like, but really, though, just just apologize for it, bro, 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:08.920 Just just say, look, I'm sorry. Like at the end 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.160 of the day, I'm just sorry. I know it caused 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:12.280 a lot of horm and I'm sorry. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.640 I do agree with you guys, Like the more information 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.920 came out. The glaring part about all of this, where 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.400 no one really would have known it would have been 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:29.800 something we have heard about was the BBC, Like, how do. 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.720 You just not cut this out? It just makes absolutely 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:33.440 no sense. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.960 And why wouldn't you cut it out? It just makes 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:35.880 no sense at all. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.480 Yeah, yeah, you know, it ultimately falls on them. I 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.560 agree with y'all, it does. It ultimately falls on them. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.680 But yeah, yeah, man, it's it's really caused a bit 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.200 of a stir so. Recently there was an na A 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:53.680 CP Awards, which obviously is a black event, and people 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.720 there started addressing him. Had a comedian what's his name, 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.760 He made light of the situation. If there's any white 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.760 men in the room, just read the room. You can't 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.400 do that. Ship here, take your medication, leave or whatever. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.480 So you know, he made he made it light of 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.560 the situation. The actress from Sinners, I can't, I don't. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.760 I don't know her actual name, but she made what's 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.640 her name, Jamie Lawson. She made a statement as well, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.360 saying that it was, you know, basically irresponsible of BBC 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.359 back to saying that he was basically exploited. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.600 So she said they had all every. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.720 Opportunity to make this not happen, and they chose to Eric. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.040 So I thought that was a good statement. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:40.120 And then Derl Roy Lindo and Ryan Coogler addressed it 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.120 as well when they were stepped. I think I can't 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.160 remember presenting or accepting the award, but he was just 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.840 saying there were just saying he appreciated all the support 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:52.200 that he that they've been receiving for you know, what 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.520 happened to them, because you could just tell on their faces. Man, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.440 if y'all haven't seen it, like they were just like 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:57.360 I could be joining. 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:02.040 Her to clinch his job, get on the stay because 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:03.920 they probably didn't know, right, they didn't. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.520 Know it all night, doing it all night. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.240 He just yeah, so they probably did assume it was him. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.200 See, I didn't watch the whole thing, So when I 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.160 saw it, I was like, I wouldn't have known who 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:14.360 did it. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:16.080 You did assume it was him because he had been 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.200 doing it. That wouldn't the first outbreak of the mind. Yeah, okay, 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:19.240 I mean so. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:25.040 If and I don't know, if they have an understanding 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:30.760 of what it is, do they have a right to 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:31.360 be upset? 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.600 Of course every black persons be upset. Yeah, I mean 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.120 you hear it. You're still gonna Yeah, it's still gonna 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.640 affect you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.200 If you dim I again, direct my anger at BBC 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:44.680 and Bathtub because. 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.280 You're talking about it. 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:52.360 That's the pubbling talking about them when what happened to them, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.360 Like say, for instand it never got out. They know 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.000 he's there, he's been doing this the whole damn night. 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.360 You know something they're probably tired of hearing the ship 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.080 by now. But then you get up there and then 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.000 you're called this slurb by somebody who has this uncontrollable 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:08.760 thing because of his disorder. You know, if you if 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.840 you know, understand that, can you be like, well, you know, 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.000 that's just that's just that's just John Davidson. Yeah, I 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:16.960 think I think it was just the timing of it 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:21.679 was just so it's just the way it happened, I 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.600 think is what really caught them off guard. So even 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.800 if you're hearing that all night, his outbursts, but then 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.840 you're in the moment of Sinners, which has so much 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.400 meaning to it, and he says that, it's like. 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.240 Wait a minute, what the hell? 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:36.959 You know what I'm saying, especially if you got other 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.479 black people that was that was presenting before them. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.520 And you also have to consider den Roy Lindo is 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.119 much older than us. So the fact that Ken didn't 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.160 even know exactly how this goes. 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:56.440 God damn well, del del Roy bought that ship. Michael B. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:02.520 Jordan probably body Delroy is still mad. Delay said about 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:09.960 about none of that couple your mouth. Don't you know 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:10.880 how they doing church? 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.119 You gotta walk out there's definitely a lot of you know, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.399 you know that that's that's you know, and I feel them. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:18.720 You know, you know how many times have been called 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.600 niggas facts a lot. That's why the n W A 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:21.919 c P. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.679 They don't care about whatever it is, you know, like 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.080 you know, you know, that's why. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.840 They say, that's why the monkeys. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.919 What what you said was anything about it monkeys? 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.560 Well, what you're about to say, that's why them what No, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.880 I want to know what you was he gonna say, right, yeah, 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:41.639 I don't know that. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:42.960 I don't know that time. 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.359 What I was gonna say is there's a reason why 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.720 we keep them in the back room, Spike. We keep 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.640 them away from the public because we don't know how 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:57.520 they's gonna act when they get around other folks. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:00.520 What I'm. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.720 But this this, but this is Sunday when you got 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:07.160 That's why I was like, why are you gonna start 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:08.639 with me Sunday? That was one of the things that 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.840 I was that I was saying. I granted, understand he's 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.920 at the public man, blah blah blah, But because Merrily like, hey, look, 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.520 we're gonna keep you back here because when you get 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.119 around folks, they don't know how you are, how you behave, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:21.600 or how they deal with it. They might not have 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.119 to say some sort of tolerance. That's how we grew up, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:25.119 that's how we grew up. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:28.560 Yeah, you know. 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.679 But the host came out and said, like, look, we 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:36.800