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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It was good, y'all, welcome to another frames per Second episode. Man,

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Speaker 2: today we're having a conversation. This came out like a

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Speaker 2: little bit after we recorded last week. I feel like

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Speaker 2: somebody brought it up though before we left. Right right

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Speaker 2: said other day we're finished recording, wrapping up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm your host.

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Speaker 2: Rod to the right of mean of the voice you

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Speaker 2: heard just now was Kenneth Bing's what's something? One start

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Speaker 2: up across from him, he got Spike Man with Navana shirt.

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Speaker 2: Y'all Patroon supporters, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: See the rock boys.

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Speaker 1: Over there next to him down with the discipline shirt.

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Speaker 4: I like the shirt, Okay, I just don't like the

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Speaker 4: smells like smells like teen spirits.

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Speaker 1: He looked up before he came in. You know, we

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Speaker 1: got start trap.

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Speaker 3: Look up his shirt bumping some smells like right to

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Speaker 3: the essential skin.

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Speaker 1: Hey what you gotta do?

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Speaker 3: Man? But yeah, man, we're here to talk about this

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Speaker 3: the controversy.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it happened like right after our recording,

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Speaker 2: like it happened a day up. So you know we're

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Speaker 2: we're we like we're we are we like on this

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Speaker 2: but it's still going on though. It's still yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because they just did something of the na A A

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Speaker 2: CP and it's been addressed there. But we'll go through

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Speaker 2: all of that. But yeah, just to kind of give

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Speaker 2: it a little background on what happened. So yeah, at

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Speaker 2: the Bafter Bafter Film Awards, John Davidson, he actually was

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Speaker 2: being awarded there by a BIB pic called I Swear,

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Speaker 2: but he involuntarily shot a slurred doing Michael B.

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Speaker 3: Jordan and Delroy's Lindo speech. He said, he said, it

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Speaker 3: was like, was it just nigger? I thought it was more?

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Speaker 3: He said what else?

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Speaker 1: He said, I don't know, you hosted, can't it's just

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Speaker 1: racial slur. Everything says it's just racial slur.

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Speaker 4: I think he said nigga bitch. Didn't he thought nigga nigga.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, he had he suffers with Rett syndrome.

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Speaker 2: Uh, and that's what the movie was, you know, essentially

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Speaker 2: about that's a that's based on his life or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it stirred up. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was going to be going on

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Speaker 2: as long, but it stirred up a bit of a

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Speaker 2: fuss and in like not only in the movie industry,

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Speaker 2: but just around just in general. Can't like what what

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Speaker 2: was your what did.

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Speaker 3: You hear about it?

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Speaker 1: Like what was your thoughts on I know, just the

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Speaker 1: way he was looking at.

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Speaker 6: Uh yeah, okay, okay, try to get me.

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Speaker 4: Can't read up on the fee you try to be PC.

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not. But what when I first saw it?

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Speaker 6: I think the first question that came to mind for

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Speaker 6: me is where in the hell are you saying that?

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Speaker 1: And why?

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Speaker 6: Like how is that part of your your vernacular? Like

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Speaker 6: you know what, like you're running around the house. Was

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Speaker 6: it part of the script where you recently auditioned for

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Speaker 6: a Tarantino films?

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Speaker 1: Like what the hell happened?

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Speaker 6: Like how did this become part of one of the

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Speaker 6: things that you just randomly just blurt out? I think

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Speaker 6: that's part of the condition, though, what that you just

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Speaker 6: see something that you just call it what it is?

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Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm saying. It's like if some things

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Speaker 1: triggered it.

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Speaker 6: So seeing black people was a trigger for him to

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Speaker 6: say nigger, Like.

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Speaker 1: I see black people and that's the word.

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Speaker 4: The first thing to come to mind is joking around,

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Speaker 4: like but let can't cook for a bit.

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Speaker 1: So I was trying to say, no, no, he don't

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Speaker 1: need I.

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Speaker 4: Keep telling y'all, I keep telling y'all, holes don't need

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Speaker 4: to be saved.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Let them do what they do.

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Speaker 2: Get back on the pole, kids, nous. So you don't

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Speaker 2: know what No, I know what is?

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Speaker 1: You just say random ship, but nigger is part of it.

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Speaker 1: It's not always random.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so there's a filter in your brain that

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Speaker 4: they don't have. The stuff that keep the filter is

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Speaker 4: not to say nigger. Well, any word that you genuinally,

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Speaker 7: It's an unacceptable word, like you know how we you

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Speaker 7: might see a gay person and you know that if

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Speaker 7: you might think that right, Whereas with tourett's.

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Speaker 1: A social filter basically, but.

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Speaker 7: Only a certain percent of people with touretts, like the

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Speaker 7: people like when you're talking about the guy in your

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Speaker 7: movie theater, I forgot what you said. You're just yelling

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Speaker 7: sh That's one form of turets. But there's another form

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Speaker 7: of turets, where if there is a socially unacceptable word,

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Speaker 7: they will say it, not voluntarily it just happens.

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Speaker 1: Like if they see a woman, they might be like.

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Speaker 7: Bitch, cunt, But it's not because they want to call

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Speaker 7: her a bitch or a cunt.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's what happens.

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Speaker 4: They just don't have the filter in their brain to

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Speaker 4: tell them not to say it, so it just automatically

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think he's running around the house just

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Speaker 1: saying that ship ship.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I really know, I don't think

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Speaker 3: so so.

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Speaker 1: But when he don't see exactly, that's what I think

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Speaker 1: that happens.

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Speaker 6: But if you if black people around the funk out,

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Speaker 6: is that what we're saying.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: That's really how it works.

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Speaker 3: That's the disease.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's part of the backlass in the

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Speaker 4: conversation where people would giving him bail and they was,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, disorder.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, yeah, but that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think you can catch it like a white

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Speaker 1: person can be like nigger. Should I call a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the right. You can't funk me up for that.

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Speaker 4: You're right, good point, disorder exactly me be very clear.

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Speaker 4: But I think that's why they give him the graces

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Speaker 4: they give them because.

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Speaker 1: That's just I'm education on social turetts.

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Speaker 6: I didn't there are varying versions of it, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: like you know, you know so, but nevertheless.

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Speaker 2: Some black people don't care about all that ship I'm

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Speaker 2: one of them, so I'm just damn that's kind of yeah,

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Speaker 4: But that's a part of trip. I don't understand what

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Speaker 4: you mean when you say you want of them, like

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Speaker 4: you don't give him. I blame more so the people who, yeah,

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Speaker 4: like it was a two hour delay they have and

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Speaker 4: they didn't cut that out, and it was other stuff

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Speaker 4: that they cut out, but they felt like it was

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Speaker 4: acceptable to have Nigga Yield in the background with Michael B.

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Speaker 3: Jordan's and what's his name? Also Palestine.

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Speaker 4: You can cut out Oconola, you're right, well sorry since

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Speaker 4: I'm mispronouncing your name.

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Speaker 7: But they took her saying free Palestine out. You couldn't

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Speaker 7: take out buddy saying nigger bitch or nigger whatever the.

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Speaker 3: Yo like a quick little't you that's quick? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they could have did that because it.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't even like it was super loud, like you could

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Speaker 7: have easily. I mean, I don't even do audio or

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Speaker 7: I could have fucking did that ship?

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Speaker 3: They didn't care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's the part to me. No, no, no, for sure.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's your what's your stance on it

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 3: I just think they should have cut it out.

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Speaker 4: I can't blame him for his just his disorder, and

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Speaker 4: they prefaced it over. I think the loud speakers that

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Speaker 4: you know, he would he would be here because they

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Speaker 4: were celebrating this movie and they let people know that

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Speaker 4: they may be outburst throughout the night.

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Speaker 3: They did. And I think that Michael.

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Speaker 1: Be Jordan, it could be. It could be either.

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Speaker 4: It was both, you know so and they I think

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Speaker 4: that they were very perfect as they were presenting the

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Speaker 4: of what they were doing.

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Speaker 3: So couldn't be me.

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Speaker 1: Here who said it first? Who said that ship? I

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Speaker 1: saw that they were, they were ready. I would have

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Speaker 2: Be like what I guess My thing too, is that, like,

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Speaker 2: why did he only say when they were up there?

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Speaker 3: If it was, that's that's part of it. That's part

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, what I'm saying. But so what it

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Speaker 2: is about about del Roy and Michael B. That made

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Speaker 2: other black people presenting.

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Speaker 7: Right, I don't know, but I know he definitely yelled

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Speaker 1: Particular.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean there was other niggas up there.

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Speaker 1: Why ain't saying that?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, well, because I you know, I think

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Speaker 6: it's so randomized.

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Speaker 1: Not that I I haven't understand.

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Speaker 6: I get that it's so randomized that that it may

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Speaker 6: not have triggered for the other people. Maybe they were

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Speaker 6: just so black for him, there's no doubt. Maybe a

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Speaker 6: paper back brown spike.

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Speaker 3: You'd have just put saying in front of it.

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Speaker 2: So that yeah, that that, but that does question bring

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Speaker 2: me questions and like, yeah, why.

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Speaker 3: Did he say when other niggas presented? So so.

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Speaker 6: Myself also is that we're there because I was waiting

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Speaker 6: for like, I know you mentioned to shut the funk

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Speaker 6: up thing? But where the other to your question? Where

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Speaker 6: there other instances throughout the evening of him saying it

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Speaker 6: to other black people we haven't had.

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Speaker 1: But that could happen.

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Speaker 7: But it could also be that because I mean, they're

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Speaker 7: uncontrollable tics. So it could just be that the tick

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Speaker 7: just didn't happen with certain black people.

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Speaker 1: It just happened to happen when those.

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Speaker 3: Two were up there.

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Speaker 1: I don't The thing about it is, I don't see

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Speaker 1: any benefit for him doing this.

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Speaker 7: He's absolutely he's up there to to accept an award

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Speaker 7: for a film to teach people about tourettes, which I

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Speaker 7: haven't seen the film.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's you've learned a lot.

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Speaker 1: They just don't give a sucks. But I don't.

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Speaker 7: And and the whole thing is, I think him being

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Speaker 7: there was was supposed to push the narrative that people

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Speaker 7: with tourettes deserve to be in spaces and we just

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Speaker 7: have to give them some grace. I don't see how

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Speaker 7: this would be any benefit for him proving that point,

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Speaker 7: if we should be in spaces, him purposely yelling out

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Speaker 7: the N word to Michael B. Jordan Delroy Lindo does

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Speaker 7: not benefit him.

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Speaker 2: So he uh So, to move on from that part,

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Speaker 2: he did later come out with a not necessarily an apology,

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Speaker 4: For reason, my world just censored. If you watch my

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, especially if you got other

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Speaker 7: But the host came out and said, like, look, we

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Speaker 1: But that does not excuse black folks.

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Speaker 7: Being emotionally hurt. Yeah, triggered by somebody yelling out nigger bitch.

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Speaker 4: And there's also you're absolutely right, there's a theory online

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Speaker 4: That could be one of the reasons, because there's no

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Speaker 7: But this is this is pretty I know everybody loves

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Speaker 7: This is not a good look. This is a really

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Speaker 1: I don't know who was in, you know.

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Speaker 6: And one of the judges from the panel he quit.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys saw that, like he

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Speaker 1: There's a black woman that quit too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah she didn't, yeah she was. See.

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Speaker 4: That makes me think even more than this conversations being

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Speaker 6: I think this kind of support with Mike is saying,

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Speaker 6: for them. So why would they go with rage marketing

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Speaker 7: Because Free Palestine would have been in a sense rage

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Speaker 7: marketing because a lot of people don't like that shit neither,

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Speaker 7: But at least honestly, leaving in Free Palestine would have

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Speaker 7: Fuck yeah, I'm gonna go watch bath the next time.

445
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 7: And then you got the other people that the conservatives

446
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 7: that are like, this is bullshit, this is pissed, you

447
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 7: know whatever.

448
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

449
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 7: I believe that they left it in. But also I

450
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 7: don't have any other excuse. Yeah, I got nothing for

451
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 7: why they left it. I have Unless they just don't

452
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Speaker 7: give a fuck about how black feel.

453
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Speaker 6: That's it. It's just yeah, I think it's inconsequential for them.

454
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Speaker 6: I think they just don't give I think they hear that.

455
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Speaker 6: They just really it didn't even.

456
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Speaker 1: Cross their mind.

457
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: That's crazy that.

458
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 6: We need to edit out nigger, bitch. So I'll tell

459
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 6: you some of the which is insane. Even if I'm sorry, right,

460
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 6: even if nigger wasn't the one that got you, bitch,

461
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 6: if he said it should have been the one, I'm

462
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 6: making that up.

463
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not he said, I thought he said.

464
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Speaker 3: To your point, it sounds like.

465
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Speaker 1: So John T.

476
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: Richardson, a producer and editor, resigned from BAP to Emergency

477
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: an Emerging Talent judge and panel. He withdrew his participation

478
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: in response to the organization's handling of the incident during

479
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 2: the during the award. He's an editor, He's a producer

480
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 2: and editor. He could have came from a higher up

481
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: for you not to do it. You see what I'm saying.

482
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: He would, he would, he would snitch, he whistle blood.

483
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: But I'm not taking that down, not at all, not

484
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: at all.

485
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

486
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: So that's from BAP to then BBC had some They

487
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: had some resigns too, so Tim Davey and news UH

488
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: CEO Deborah Turns resigned following the intense controversial regarding to

489
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: misleading editing.

490
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: Uh the oh wait, no, this is something else.

491
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 6: This is they may need to go back and be

492
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 6: hard to find some damn get a job.

493
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is job.

494
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 6: Job.

495
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

496
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: So apparently it's been some other incidents too, because there's

497
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: a couple other people left for some different reasons.

498
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: But what had they had to do with editing and stuff?

499
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: So this was just the final straw. Yeah, so they

500
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: got a truck, so they got seem like they got

501
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 3: a track.

502
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: That's that.

503
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because you just I mean, hey, players fuck up, right, Yeah,

504
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 6: they just fucked up, lessons learned, and.

505
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: They're gonna move on to leave because of that.

506
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 6: And maybe the response, you know, it's a lot so

507
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 6: there must be some other ship happening that we don't

508
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 6: know about it.

509
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 7: I mean, this is probably enough, especially if they're black, though.

510
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 7: I think it's enough for them to be like, I'm

511
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 7: not working for this company because the thing that the thing.

512
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: That sucks is.

513
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 7: We got everybody out here analyzing the guy with Terressa's

514
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 7: intent when that is not in my opinion, that's not

515
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 7: even what the discussion should be about. Discussion should be

516
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 7: about the emotional impac act on black people, period, and

517
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 7: I don't think he's responsible to a degree.

518
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: It's like ten percent.

519
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 7: The other ninety is split between Bathto and BBC, and

520
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 7: that's why I think we should be mad at and

521
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 7: unfortunately that's not the discussion. So maybe these black people

522
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 7: were just like, look, I'm pissed off that y'all are

523
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 7: getting away with this. You got it out here looking

524
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 7: like black people don't care about people with disabilities. Got

525
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 7: you got black people out here attacking disabled people when

526
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 7: they should be attacking you, motherfuckers.

527
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm leaving.

528
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 7: And it took y'all damn near a week to respond

529
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 7: and apologize. Fuck out of here, Nope, I quit.

530
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: Just like they're asking black people to take the back

531
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: seat to the disorder.

532
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, and they not doing it.

533
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 7: I just hate that now black folks, even black folks

534
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 7: who were fully aware of what Tourett's is, now black

535
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 7: folks are now being like, well, fuck Tourett's not fuck

536
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 7: that when it should be an understanding and a learning experience.

537
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 7: But that is partly on John Dave Davidson. It's partly

538
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 7: on him, because I'm with Rod he he could have said, Look,

539
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 7: this is my disorder, this is the reason for what happened.

540
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 7: But I am still extremely apologetic for any person that

541
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 7: I heard I thought I had saw that.

542
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, that was part of the part of

543
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: the issue people were having.

544
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 7: So that's the part that because now we're gonna look

545
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 7: at anybody with TRETT to be like you would, I

546
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 7: wish you would. Yeah, you can yell at I don't

547
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 7: give an up. You've been not saying.

548
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: You better not say no, you better not say nothing.

549
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: But sucking up. That's the part that sucks. Yeah.

550
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is interesting because you know we we I

551
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 6: would assume we've all been or been around yes, okay,

552
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 6: so and we've all been like you know turettes. We

553
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 6: understood it and moved, but not to the point where

554
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 6: someone's been called a inward.

555
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's never personalized right at me?

556
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 6: Right, So it really changed everything because we understood the

557
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 6: disorder and what it does and how it works, and

558
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 6: like you said, it has never been sent or personalized

559
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 6: towards someone or used in this manner towards somewhere where

560
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: now the whole conversation has changed. It's like, oh shit,

561
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 6: this dude got called what they got called and then

562
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 6: were on stage in public. That's a public embarrassment. Yes, yes,

563
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 6: yeah it is. And so now everybody's like, what you know, Yeah,

564
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 6: I feel like the conversation has shifted.

565
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 7: It has because I see a lot of people on

566
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 7: Twitter that were like, is not an excuse to be racist?

567
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, you're you're.

568
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 4: Not understanding what Thrett's is then, because it's not an

569
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 4: excuse to be racist.

570
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know that he's actually racist. I don't

571
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know that.

572
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 7: I'm willing to do the emotional labor to figure it out,

573
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 7: but I don't know if he's racist.

574
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: I have no idea.

575
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: And if he is racist, does that change it? Yes? Absolutely.

576
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: If I hear him and he's just talking normal conversation,

577
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: he's just like, Yeah, these fucking niggas out here. But

578
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: then it's different. You like me, you ain't taking right

579
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 4: now normal conversation flow.

580
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 6: He can't watch Centers boys in the hood, min it's

581
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 6: a society's snowfall.

582
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: I guess to your point too, can most of the

583
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: people with that I've been around in our community, even black,

584
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 4: So that wouldn't that word wouldn't pop out.

585
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 7: That also isolates them too, because now they're looking at

586
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 7: all these black people attacking people with tourettes and they're like, Okay,

587
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 7: I'm black and I had to and I.

588
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Understand how this works.

589
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 7: But if I tried to go and explain this to

590
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 7: my friends who are pissed off, they're going to attack me.

591
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's kind of like the whole conversation.

592
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 7: That was happening with Black Lives Matter, where black lives

593
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 7: Black people were very much in support of other black

594
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 7: people until they found out that they're gay or something,

595
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 7: and then it's, oh, wait, nah, Black Lives Matter, except

596
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 7: you guys, we're not We're not We're not including y'all

597
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 7: in the conversation. But yeah, black people with tourett's, Like,

598
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 7: where do they even fit in with this conversation?

599
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: You know?

600
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 6: When somebody asked them, you know, we are, so we

601
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 6: asking how that shit works because because Ron, we want

602
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 6: to know it.

603
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: We want to understand how should we look at him?

604
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: You got it?

605
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 6: You break that ship down to me, So I need

606
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 6: to know how the process will happened with him.

607
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: That would be a good interview. I would want to

608
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: hear that has this happened to him before? Happened to

609
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 4: who to guy John Davidson. I have no idea.

610
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: I've never heard.

611
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: Sure, I'm sure it has. You.

612
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 3: Sure he's called somebody in a nigga before?

613
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: I would be I'd be willing to bet he has.

614
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: That's what I need to know.

615
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: I need to know have you ever done this before?

616
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: This is your first time doing it?

617
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 7: I'm sure he has because because the the like I said,

618
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 7: the probably that he has it's like I don't know

619
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 7: what it's called, but it's like a completely like isolated

620
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 7: part of turets. It's only like ten or twenty percent

621
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 7: of people trets have that type of tourette.

622
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: But how was he not able to say it anymore?

623
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: In any other interviews? We just didn't get.

624
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: I feel like that would have came out somewhere. I

625
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: feel like somebody would would have. I'm with you, I

626
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: feel like we.

627
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Would have heard. I feel like famous, though, like nobody will.

628
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Be in No, No, he's talking about that of him

629
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: calling other people.

630
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 7: But here again, the conversation is still black people versus

631
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 7: John Davidson. Yeah, the conversation is still that, And in

632
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 7: my opinion, I just don't know why we're still like,

633
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 7: do we really think that he did it on purpose?

634
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 7: If we don't think he did it on purpose, and

635
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 7: why are we still talking about this aspect?

636
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: Because it is it is. It is.

637
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: Peculiar that it hasn't happened. It only happened at one time.

638
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 4: It was the whole night.

639
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 7: I get you, but we're also dealing with with two

640
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 7: things that cannot always be explained logically, disabilities and people's

641
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 7: emotional responses to anything. You can never say, oh well,

642
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 7: in this aspect and in this context, this will always happen.

643
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: This might be the first time, it might be, and

644
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: I think that.

645
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: I think that's enough to bother people this one time,

646
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: in this one particular.

647
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 7: You know why it would make sense to me because

648
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 7: in that moment, his brain knows the.

649
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 8: Worst thing that can happen right now is you yelled

650
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 8: nigger at these two black people on stage, And because

651
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 8: like Spike said earlier, that filter is not there, that's

652
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 8: the first thing that comes out.

653
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: And it's probably his first time in a room like that,

654
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: getting an award being celebrated, so I could see he

655
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: ain't been around.

656
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 7: Him.

657
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I tell you, it was first hold that ship back.

658
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: He's been charging up like a anime character.

659
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: Bro was of purple out there.

660
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: But you know what, y'all making jokes, But I'm actually

661
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: kind of with y'all. It could have been that he's

662
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: been holding that back all the fighting the ticks all night,

663
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 4: and in that particular moment he lost the battle, had.

664
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Lost the war.

665
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 4: He's been holding it back all night.

666
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: It was just like, I'm fighting this and then in that.

667
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: Moment, that's why he didn't call anybody else in because

668
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 6: you know, he was like, I got this, I got it,

669
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 6: I got it. Probably he probably pitching himself. You're probably

670
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 6: doing all kind of ship. But its just like he

671
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 6: got to that moment like, nah, this this it's arrassed.

672
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Man. He just he got the about

673
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: it there, because that was a smart thing. Was he got.

674
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 6: Oh no, I got try to hear that ship. Once

675
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 6: the dam was burst, Bro, everybody was gonna get it.

676
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 6: It was to be all counselor all that.

677
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it sucked. Man.

678
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: It was an unfortunate moment on both sides. And I

679
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: think that's the thing that that that needs to be acknowledged.

680
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: It's unfortunately on both sides to the rex community Black community,

681
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: like might keep expressing like it's it's the network's fault

682
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 2: and it's the awards UH Association's fault for not protecting

683
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: these two groups in this moment.

684
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, damn this to MAJO. They really didn't handle

685
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: in class.

686
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 7: I don't have that in me, even if you got trust.

687
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: Laugh. That's that's my problem.

688
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: Because if I knew it was him, and I knew

689
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: he couldn't control it, laughed, and that would have been terrible.

690
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: Would my career would have been done?

691
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: They had to write two people on stage because if

692
00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: anybody else had been.

693
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: I was just.

694
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: In another way of.

695
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: That man.

696
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah he was man pissed. Yeah I can't I saw it,

697
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: but I can't remember he's yeah, he knew he was

698
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: saying like something you knew what he's saying or something

699
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: like that.

700
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

701
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: It's it's people out there like nah, I mean.

702
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: You know, disorder work, but it is kind of weird.

703
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 6: It ain't been around a lot of black people like

704
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 6: you don't you know, So it's just like I don't.

705
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: Know, So I'm gonna let go something I probably shouldn't

706
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: let go.

707
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: But there have been conversations that we've been talking about

708
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: where it it references a certain community, and I will

709
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: think about slurs and be like, man, it's really fucked

710
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: up that they get called this or they get called that.

711
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: And I've almost had for it slips a few times,

712
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 4: but I've caught myself.

713
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: And it hasn't come out.

714
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 7: And I always think about how fucked up would it

715
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 7: be if we're talking about any community and I'm like, yeah,

716
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 7: this is fucked up how.

717
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: They're how they're.

718
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 7: Done, and then that slur slips out, and it's like, well, fuck,

719
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 7: I didn't mean to call them that.

720
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 4: It was in my head because I think it's fucked

721
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 4: up that they are called that. That could be how

722
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: to a degree, the Tourettes works, but my brain has

723
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 4: the filter to say, look, that's fucked up.

724
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: That word should never come out.

725
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: Their brain doesn't.

726
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Have that filter.

727
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: I get it, but it's just not enough.

728
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: I feel you. I'm not blaming no black person for

729
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: being upset. Yeah, we'll just come over here and us

730
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: go ahead. I mean we're talking about.

731
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 7: I guess I was gonna say with what you just said.

732
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 7: I feel the same way about the B word, like

733
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 7: I stop using it. But since I'm around people who

734
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 7: say it so much, like I'd be afraid, like dang,

735
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 7: I'm gonna slip up and say it again.

736
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying my best not to.

737
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 7: Even the music I listen to when I'm rapping, I'm

738
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 7: like I'm filtering myself.

739
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's like I know I'm

740
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: probably gonna slip.

741
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 7: I really hope it never happens, but it's probably gonna

742
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 7: happen again. So I feel sometimes, no, well, basically what

743
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 7: you're saying right now, I'm think about somebody who's probably

744
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 7: surrounded who's trying not to be racist in a racist family,

745
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 7: and it's hearing that word all the time, And if

746
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 7: they slip up and say it, should I give them grace?

747
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: No?

748
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: No, oh no, if you ain't got to rent, I

749
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: don't give fuck what you hear you been, That's right.

750
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the B word is.

751
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 7: I don't like to say it, but it does come

752
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 7: out from me like bitch, ass, motherfucker. But I will say,

753
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 7: and this is not better. I could not take the

754
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 7: lot time I called a woman a bitch. But that's

755
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 7: not better. It's not better. I should just not use

756
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 7: the word period. But Jalen's right.

757
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: You know, you hear it the video games, the music,

758
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: the movies.

759
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: You know it affects me. It's an effect in him.

760
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, hopefully that doesn't take away from people checking

761
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 7: out his film.

762
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it. Maybe it's in the movie. Maybe

763
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: he's calling people niggers in the movie. If it's in

764
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: the movie where that makes you feel better, well, it's well,

765
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: it's not a it's not a feel better situation for me.

766
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm just it's just I'm just.

767
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: Wondering, like if if he has, like I'm sure, why,

768
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: why do you guys.

769
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 6: Think is this conversation has lingered as long as it does.

770
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 7: It's the N word, and it's and it's and it's

771
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 7: it's a context that we're not familiar with. This has

772
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 7: never happened in a public setting where a motherfucker was

773
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 7: called nigger but actually had.

774
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: It's like you got the it's not brought the car and.

775
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 4: Figured it out, like, motherfucker, we got ya. I think

776
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: that's all it is.

777
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Many the black is pushing back on that ship like no,

778
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: I don't don't think y'all got passes, But that's what that.

779
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: Is, right, So it is I get it and it's weird.

780
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 6: And again I was like, I don't. I mean, I

781
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 6: don't know. I don't know. Like I saw it. I

782
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 6: was like, Tourette's okay, makes sense, got it. But I'm

783
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 6: still at the same time, they gotta figure out a

784
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 6: way to kind of control, like what are the controls

785
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 6: in place to protect them from somebody with Trette? And

786
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 6: they were not protected.

787
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, but that's what he John was saying, was that,

788
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: like he was, he found it weird that there was

789
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: a microphone near him.

790
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 7: But they also said that I don't know if I

791
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 7: believe it, but they also said it was a microphone

792
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 7: that was that wasn't well to catch the roof like

793
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: the clapping and all that.

794
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe him. You would know

795
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: better than me.

796
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: So it's not like bath never dealt with somebody that

797
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: rets before what to do that part exactly.

798
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 7: So they should have been they should have been more

799
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 7: prepared when when people are on stage talking, turn his mic.

800
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Off, get him.

801
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 4: It's funny that you say about the microphone, because if

802
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: you think to the Chris Rock and Will Smith ship

803
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: like we didn't hear what Will Smith said?

804
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: If you picked it. We heard all we mouthed. We

805
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: heard what I'm thinking back. Okay, maybe it was on

806
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: Chris Rocks. He was so loud.

807
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: So it is a mic to pick.

808
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: Up the room.

809
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mighty to pick up the ru But

810
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: they should have turned his off when people were presenting,

811
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: that's all.

812
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: And again, like they had two hours to fix this problem.

813
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: That's the greatious spoil right to.

814
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: Two hours to fix this problem. And they fixed it.

815
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: For others, but not this one.

816
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 7: And you know what, even if they turned his mind off,

817
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 7: it would have still picked up another mic.

818
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: So wouldn't That wouldn't fixed anything.

819
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I really want to know why they just didn't do it.

820
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the question.

821
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: Like it has to be that nobody nobody asked them.

822
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I think it's have been given a good

823
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: response that that just makes no sense.

824
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, basically mm hmmm, because they're probably sitting back being like,

825
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 7: well ship, this is niggers fighting the people with turrets.

826
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: We're good. We haven't let them fight it out. He

827
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: did it.

828
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: Until it really comes back on us, we ain't got

829
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: to worry about it.

830
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds like y'all be careful out there because

831
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 6: It sounds like if black folks are not letting this

832
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 6: ship go, they freached the tolerance at that point, like, man,

833
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: we don't give a fuck, what's wrong with you?

834
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Stop this ship?

835
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm trying to see if they said, yeah.

836
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, motherfucker get his asship doing some ship like this.

837
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: Oh, that's what it was real quick. And this is

838
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: the last part. They said that they didn't hear hear it.

839
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: During the BBC producers say they didn't hear the N

840
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: words slur as working in a truck following second Baptist,

841
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 4: they should all be fired.

842
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

843
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm one hundred yes, Because how did you pick

844
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 6: up because you probably have somebody around taking notes?

845
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you think?

846
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: What did you think? What did you think?

847
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: Like the faces said, somebody said something fucked up?

848
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Nah?

849
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, And again I think if if they didn't hear it,

850
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 6: somebody around should have been taking notes because they had.

851
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: They heard free Palestine, right, they heard that very well.

852
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: It's not an excuse. That's a terrible excuse because they

853
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: edited something out. They gotta die. That's not gonna work.

854
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 7: This sounds that excuse Y'll be giving me when y'll

855
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 7: be leaving my ship. In the videos and not just

856
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 7: saying it sounds like.

857
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: That excuse, don't just don't say it's don't say you're

858
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: gonna blame me.

859
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I ain't hear it. Maybe they they got a point

860
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: there was bad. Yeah, you do the micras.

861
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go check out his film this week. I'm

862
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 7: gonna watch it because I don't know much about Tourette's.

863
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: I had to google all that stuff because I had

864
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: I had literally had to google.

865
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad, will you can you be racist with Terrett?

866
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Something like that?

867
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 7: I had to google because I wanted to see, like, well,

868
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 7: I think I google can Turetts make you say racist?

869
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: Ship?

870
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 7: Because I've been around people with Thurets and they've never

871
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 7: said anything racist. But I've definitely heard him be like,

872
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 7: fucking cut bitch. I've heard that before, you fucking dick sucker.

873
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: I've heard that, But I've never heard any of them

874
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 7: say anything racist.

875
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: They said he shouted a number of phrases ding the

876
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: first twenty minutes of awards, including boring, bullshit, crazy, boring.

877
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: No, I'm not lying.

878
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 6: I wish I would have been dead for that, brod.

879
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: They ed, you don't watch the whole ship you know it.

880
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: I didn't watch that.

881
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't remember what I'm saying, like

882
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: the ship was boring. They probably, I'm saying I should

883
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: have edited it out. They don't want nobody up. Damn,

884
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

885
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: Him his award to.

886
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 7: Wait wait also, that might that makes it make more sense.

887
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 7: That makes it make more sense.

888
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know that his award was his movie, and

889
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: that makes it make more sense to wow up.

890
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: They should have known. Not the bad black people get

891
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: up there to get out award. Another point, No, I'm

892
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: kind of with kN on that I'm kind of with n.

893
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: Probably should have been somebody he was familiar.

894
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 7: With, yes, because because no, I'm with Ken on this one.

895
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 7: Why would you put two black people up there with

896
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 7: the fear that he might say a certain thing?

897
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: You set them up.

898
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: It's not out the realm of possibility that happens.

899
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: Right, But what could he possibly say to a white man?

900
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 7: You put a regular ass, fucking the no lip dude

901
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 7: that we talked about last week, put him up there

902
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 7: to present this award.

903
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: What could he say to him that's going to be offensive? Cracker, Like,

904
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: come on, what could he say to him?

905
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: Hackerwood ship. Right, you know what I'm saying, Office Fly.

906
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: I'm with Ken on this one. This sounds like they

907
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: kind of set them up.

908
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 7: For failure because somebody in the room should have thought,

909
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 7: maybe this might be not be a good idea. Let's

910
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 7: put a regular ass, straight white dude up there, because

911
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 7: what could he possibly say about him?

912
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: And then it goes back to the theory about this

913
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 3: being raised. Baby.

914
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm just would they be up and present

915
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: him with the award ship.

916
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm not really against your theory, Spike, I'm not.

917
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm not. They threw a bar. Don want to see

918
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: if you're blow up? Definitely blew up? All right, man,

919
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna wrap this up.

920
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 5: Man.

921
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that this was this was wild. I did

922
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: not expect this to.

923
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: Be still going on by the recording again, but yeah,

924
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: here we go ahead. Hey, I guess it's good that

925
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 2: we waited because it's been you know, stuff to come

926
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: out since then.

927
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, there you haven't once you got your

928
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: thoughts on it. Man, leave you what you chicked? That

929
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 4: said fart nigger. She should have said she had trads.

930
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: Damn she could have got away.

931
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying a little, a little, but

932
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: now she knows that they know, they're gonna say, now,

933
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: I got I got a slight.

934
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: Spectrum.

935
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: I'm on the spectrum because it does sound like it

936
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: was a tick.

937
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: She sucked up. Happened a week prior.

938
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: I know she's like, Damn's like, nobody tell me, goddamn

939
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: window broke the cud.

940
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: Yees listening to God.

941
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, so yeah that's that man. We hope

942
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: you guys enjoyed that. Let us know your thoughts on

943
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: the situation. Where is this posed is posted on our

944
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Patreon and on YouTube or yeah, so yeah, make sure

945
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: you check that out, leave your comments. But yeah, man,

946
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: Until next time, we'll catch all on another conversation review

947
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: we got peace, Peace