1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Why From Vaul Heartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today. 3 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 2: I've never seen so many people angry about a peace deal. 4 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: Do I think peace is possible? No, because if a 5 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: MAAS is involved, it's impossible. AMASA is a terrorist organization. 6 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: The Palestidians voted for a terrorist organization. No, the Palestidians 7 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: are not innocent people. That's different than whether or not 8 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: innocent people got killed in this war. 9 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Of course, that happened. 10 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Innocent people got killed on October seventh, twenty twenty three. 11 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: But if you were to talk to. 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: The college and the pseudo intellectuals on social media, they 13 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: don't care. That part doesn't matter. Remember, they're not unhappy 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: with peace. They're unhappy with the peace deal because the 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: objective is not peace. The objective is destruction. Tony Cants, 16 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. I find 17 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: everything I do over at Tony kats dot com. Smoking 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: from Asylum. This is the Asylum thirteen Madula oblongata. Yes, 19 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: I do smoke when I do the show. This from Clee. 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Find a bit of cigar making right over here, simple, easy, 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: easy smoke. Enjoy it quite a bit they're angry that 22 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: there's a peace deal, and when they can't, when they 23 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: find themselves unable to control their rational mind, they get 24 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: into the idea of well, you know, the hossages they 25 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: had it better than the people of Goza themselves. 26 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: People who start to talk to the hostages who have 27 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 4: only just been released will find that it will take 28 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: a long long time for them to recover physically, but 29 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: also mentally. It's been a terrible, terrible two years for 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 4: them because. 31 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: Not only are they there, you know. 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: They're probably been treated better than the average gasen because 33 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: they are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had. 34 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: Now Hamas has given. 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: Up all its leverage, by the way, by giving them 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: all up. 37 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: So that is a victory for. 38 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: This is Christian lam on poor CNN who actually said 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: that those who were told to dig their own graves 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: had it better. She has come out to apologize, and 41 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: if you believe that apology, you're more than welcome to 42 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: I can't tell you what to believe, but so were 43 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: all perfectly clear. She was ordered to apologize, she followed 44 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: the order. 45 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: No one believes her, but the. 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: Commentary, well, that is what is permeating these people. Who 47 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: are like, why is it when CNN reports? Because CNN reported, 48 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: CNN reported that hostages were being released by Hamas and 49 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: prisoners were being released by Israel, and this deal was 50 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: going down. The question that he asked is why do 51 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 2: they refer to the Israelis as hostages but the Palestinians 52 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: as prisoners? Because the Israelis were held hostage by Hamas 53 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: and the Palestinians are prisoners who were engaged in vicious, 54 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: blood filled attacks against Israelis. 55 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: And were in jail. Why would you argue such a thing? 56 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Will you argue it when you do something as reprehensible 57 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: as Dave Smith and you say, I'm glad there's this 58 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: hostage swamp going on. The Israelis didn't have Palestinian hostages. 59 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: That's not the case. Now, one could argue, in a 60 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: matter of policy, you don't like how Israel handles things, 61 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: for example in the West Bank. However, I consider the 62 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: West Bank Jerusalem neither here nor there. You can make 63 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: that argument. That would be a policy conversation. The idea 64 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: that the Israelis took these people, held them against their will, 65 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: kidnapped them from their homes or music festival is laughable, 66 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: as It is ignorant, as it is pathetic, as it 67 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: is the continued hate of Israel, because the desire is 68 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: not peace. 69 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: It is Israel's destruction. 70 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: If the United States did not give Israel a dime, 71 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: these people Dave Smith included, in my view, would still 72 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: be engaged. 73 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: In well, you know what Israel's doing. 74 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: This is not obsession that is healthy, to the extent 75 00:04:51,000 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: that any obsession is healthy. This is obscene. But this 76 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: is who they are. They cannot find themselves having any 77 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: type of joy whatsoever. They can't look at what has 78 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: taken place and say. 79 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: This is good. Hey, nice work. 80 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: Even Joe Biden, we're talking about the former president, a 81 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 2: guy who didn't know where he was half the time. 82 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: He came out to say great work. He put out 83 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: the post right here, let me bring it to you. 84 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: He puts out the post that says, I am deeply 85 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: grateful that's I had to find it for a second, 86 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: that I couldn't find it. I am deeply grateful and 87 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: relieved that this day has come for the last living 88 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: twenty hostages who have been through unimaginable hell and are 89 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: finally reunited with their families and loved ones, and for 90 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: the civilians and gods who have experienced a measurable. 91 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 3: Loss and will finally get the chance to rebuild their lives. 92 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: The road to this deal was not easy. 93 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: My administration worked relentlessly to bring hostages home, get relieved 94 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: to Palistinian civilians, and end the war. I commend President 95 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Trump and his team for their work to get a 96 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: renewed cease fire deal over the finish line, he continues. Now, 97 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: with the backing of the United States in the world, 98 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: the Middle East is on a path to piece that 99 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: I hope in doors at a future for Israelis and 100 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: Palestinians alike with equal measures of peace, dignity, and safety. 101 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: Now did he write it. I very much doubt that 102 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: he wrote it. I would have no reason to think 103 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: that he wrote it. However, as a matter of sentiment, 104 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: he says President Trump's name, he congratulates him for the 105 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: job done. Okay, and guys, you've seen people say, yeah, sure, 106 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 2: Joe Biden can talk about work done to get hostages back. 107 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 2: Of course, it would be a weird thing to say 108 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: he didn't. But Biden got back this many and Trump 109 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: only got back this many. Trum Biden wins. I swear 110 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: to you that's out there. Do you know how depraved 111 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: you have to be to do that. What's different about 112 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: what Trump has done is that Trump has created a 113 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: new paradigm. 114 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: What Trump has. 115 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: Done it said, hey, we got a better way to 116 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: arrange this deal. What we can do is we can 117 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: put together a situation by which everybody's got a little 118 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: skin in the game. Now, it's weird, it's awkward, it's 119 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: a thing. I get that. I wholeheartedly agree with that. 120 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: It's not the every day and it's not for everybody. 121 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: But what if everybody had a little bit of skinning 122 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: the game, everybody had a little money in the game, 123 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: everybody made a couple bucks off the game. 124 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: Couldn't we have peace? Oh, there's no room for Hamas 125 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: in there. 126 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: There's no room for Iran in there, to which these countries, 127 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 2: Muslim countries or otherwise are very very fine with because 128 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: they hate Iran. So the fundamental shift in so much 129 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: of this is to say Iran is out. They are 130 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: marginalized as opposed to what Barack Obama was trying to do, 131 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: which is mainstream them. I mean, that's a huge difference 132 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: in the thought process. The thought process must involve the 133 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: idea that one cannot coexist with the Islamist. 134 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 3: That is going to get emails sent my way. What 135 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: I just said was. 136 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Western civilization, which is to say, any civilization that wants 137 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 2: to thrive cannot, on any place on the globe, coexist 138 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: with the Islamist. My last name is spelled Katz. Quote me, 139 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: what did I say? That's wrong? What did I say 140 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: that isn't completely on point? 141 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: Can't be done? 142 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: So no one could coexist with Iran, No one could 143 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: coexist with these terror groups. Hamas has blow the Hooti rebels. 144 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: It cannot be done. And you'll notice that there are 145 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: a lot of these nations that aren't interested in doing that, 146 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: and a lot of nations that still have to learn. 147 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: This is the headline from the Washington Times. The Washington 148 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: Times as the story wave of knife attacks underscores germany 149 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: struggle to assimilate refugees. Do you know why that is Germany? 150 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: Because you cannot assimilate an Islamist can't happen. They don't 151 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: want to assimilate. They have no interest in the assimilating. 152 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: They want you to lose. They want you to live 153 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: under the caliphate. That's what they want. 154 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: Germany is learning what it is that the UK has 155 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: already seen very close and up front, and still does 156 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: nothing about If you make a joke on social media, 157 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: you go to jail. If they stab. 158 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: Somebody, well, we really have to understand the underlying cause 159 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: of why you made them so angry. Everybody sees this. 160 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: Everybody is getting on board. The Egyptian president I'lsisi, who 161 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: was there and hosted this event in charlel Sheik in Egypt, 162 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: has said, you know, playing up to President Trump in 163 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: the way people do, only you can bring peace to 164 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: the region. And that's really this is our last shot. 165 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: That was the commentary, This is our last shot. Now, 166 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: not everybody is on board. You had a whole bunch 167 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: of leaders there. You heard the Benjamin et Yahu, the 168 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Israel, was going to be there. Then 169 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: you heard because of the Jewish holiday, he's not going 170 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: to be there. No, No, this was the Turks. Turks 171 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: didn't want Israel there, and Airdiwan didn't want to be there, 172 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: and they worked to prevent him from being there, and 173 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: other countries are like, yeah, he shouldn't be there, so okay, 174 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: he's not there. I think the Israelis have the exact 175 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: right approach here, You guys, you spend your money and 176 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: you do the thing, and you rebuild Gaza and we'll 177 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: live in peace and everything will be great. Who knows, 178 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: maybe we'll go vacation there. But a masque can't exist. 179 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: And if a mass exists, we're gonna kill them wherever 180 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: they are. We don't deals. We're gonna kill these terrorists 181 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: who are trying to kill us wherever they are, no 182 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: question asked. 183 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: So if you want to be able to create. 184 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: Something better, you better take care of those people, to 185 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: which yes, they want to, even the Turks, who may 186 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: have all the issues with the Israelis in the world, 187 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: whether they be founded or not. And I would argue 188 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: more not. The Turks don't want to Ran. You think 189 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: that this is about hegemonic power. There is so much 190 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: at play here, dear Lord. The Turks understand. 191 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: That you don't want to Ran having the power. You 192 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: want to have the power. 193 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: This is going to be a fight. The Saudis have 194 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: been fighting Iran for this power. The Turks would rather 195 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: engage that fight. So you take a look at what 196 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: they're thinking of with Gaza, and you're like, Okay, everybody's 197 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: trying to get there a little bit of a peace, 198 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: get their little bit of investment. 199 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: Everyone's got skin in the game. 200 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: It's what Steve Bannon said, this is very bad for 201 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: Netan Yahoo because it's a two state solution. I think 202 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: Steve Bennon's just playing into a caricature at that moment, 203 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: but you know, engaged in his best Tecker Carlson impression. 204 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: He's just wrong there. But one could see it as 205 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: is this a two state solution because Palacidians get to stay, 206 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: they just don't get the hamas leadership. Well, once you 207 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: don't have the hamas leadership, now you have to be 208 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: able to keep people from going out there and trying 209 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 2: to kill Jews because they've been told they have to 210 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: kill Jews their whole lives. But if there's an investment 211 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: in an area, maybe that takes place. No, I don't 212 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: think a peace can hold, but yes, I'm willing to 213 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: let them see what they can do. 214 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: I'm willing to try a whole new look at the thing. 215 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: But you'll notice that the political left doesn't want to 216 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: discuss it, doesn't want to see it, doesn't want to 217 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: think about it. Rather, they think of Palestidian prisoners as hostages. 218 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: They want to make the claim that the hostages were 219 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: in the Israeli hostages weren't treated so badly. Oh yes, 220 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: you take off your ribbon, Cornell West excoriating Scott Jennings 221 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: on CNN. You take off your ribbon for the Israeli hostages. 222 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: What about the Palestidian people? What about the Palistiindian people 223 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: who voted for Hamas, who helped with the hiding, who 224 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: engaged roadblocks, human roadblocks of the Red Cross, who were 225 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: trying to get the hostages out. But what are the 226 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Palestinians who are right now being killed by Hamas for 227 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: allegedly collaborating with Israel. You cannot have a rational, free 228 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: society coexist with Islamists. Christians cannot coexist with Islamists. Jews 229 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: cannot coexist with Islamists. Muslims cannot coexist with Islamists. Because 230 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: no one can coexist with the Islamist. You want peace first, 231 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: the Islamist has to be stopped. I mean, if we're 232 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: going to get to the heart of the matter here, 233 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: it is Germany the UK Gaza only have one thing 234 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: in common. Yet the Left finds itself supporting that. Why 235 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: in the world does that happen. Let us discuss it. 236 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony 237 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: Katz today. 238 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: Keep an eye on the two governors races New Jersey Virginia. 239 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: Holy moly, have these things been tight. 240 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I like the idea of 241 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: referring to them as Bellweather Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. 242 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: Good to be with you, Virginia. 243 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:34,359 Speaker 2: You have the lieutenant governor, Republican Winsome Sears. Winsome Earl Sears, 244 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 2: e ar L e Earl Sears is the last name 245 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: she is, and her first name is Winsome wi n somme. 246 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: She's great, she's. 247 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: I believe I have interviewed her before, and she's tough 248 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: as nails and direct and focused and all would be terrific. 249 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: Would be fun to take over in already having really 250 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: the kind of blueprint that Glenn Younkin as governor provided 251 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: one hundred percent, Oh, would be terrific. Going up against 252 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: her is a congresswoman, former congress Woman Democrat, Abigail Spamburger, 253 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: who is defending this guy, Jay Jones, who's running for 254 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: attorney general, who said he wanted to kill the Republican Speaker. 255 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: Of the House and his kids. 256 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: And asked to denounce this, and she won't denounce it, 257 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: and ask what do you think about it? 258 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: She won't say anything. And in the latest debate, winsome. 259 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Earl Sears is saying to her, Abigail, how can you 260 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: be okay with this? 261 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: Talking directly to her. 262 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Let's say they're both facing this way, and so Abigail's 263 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: over here and Winson's over here. 264 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: And looking at her, Abigail, how could you defend this? 265 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: And abigail' Ssamberger chiefs looking straight ahead, never acknowledges that 266 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: win some Earl Sears is there, doesn't acknowledge that she's there. Oh, 267 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: it is brutal, talking about boys and girls bathrooms? How 268 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: can you be okay with it? And there's some very 269 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: interesting data to go along with this? How could you 270 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: be okay with this? What if it was your daughter's? 271 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: What it was your children? Nothing? Abig Elspamberger just looks 272 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: straight ahead, doesn't even notice her, doesn't pay attention to her. 273 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: Really bad stuff. Then there's new Jersey you've got. I 274 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: don't know if she goes by Mikey or Mickey Cheryl 275 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: Democrat representative that House her time in the Navy. She 276 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to walk on graduation because of a cheating scandal. 277 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: She claims she wanted to turn people in and wouldn't 278 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: rat other people out. 279 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: Then you have Jack Chidarelli, the. 280 00:18:50,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: Republican allegations he is complicit with pharmaceutical companies when it 281 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: talks about the death opioid deaths of thousands of New 282 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: Jersey residents. 283 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: These are I don't know the details. 284 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: On that story. I know the little bit of the 285 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: details on the Cheryl case. But these are two very 286 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 2: interesting races and you have to be paying attention to them. 287 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: They're coming up fast. The October surprises are out. Pay 288 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: attention to these two races, specifically Virginia. This is Tony Katx. 289 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: Today. 290 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 5: We beat the left and we beat people like George 291 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: Soros on crime. You have in this country these prosecutors 292 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: that are funded by Soros and other organs of the left, 293 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 5: and they get in and they have an agenda to 294 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 5: simply not prosecute criminals. 295 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: We see it in Philadelphia with this guy. 296 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 5: Krasner has been a total disaster and has harmed a 297 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 5: lot of people because of the dear of duty. Well, 298 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 5: we have had two sorows prosecutors in Florida, one in 299 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: Tampa and one in Orlando, and I removed both of 300 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: them from their posts. And I'm the only governor in 301 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 5: the country to do that. 302 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: Good. Why should you keep the person who is doing 303 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 3: their job? 304 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Why would anybody keep anybody in a position where they 305 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: don't do their job? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good 306 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: to be with you, eight three three got Tony eight 307 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: three three four six eight eight sixty six y nine 308 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: eight three three got Tony. I would make the argument 309 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: that as we talk about the shutdown, and I'll get 310 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: more into that, the Democrats have decided that the the 311 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: not doing the job is the job. But thereafter something 312 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: very very different than the rest of us. We want 313 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: our government to actually work. Maybe we want it smaller, 314 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: that's me. Maybe we want it leaner, that's me. Maybe 315 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: we want it smarter, that's me. But we want it 316 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: to work. I mean, if we're going to have this thing, 317 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: it should at least do the jobs, the basic functions 318 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: the Article one, section eight, and that we want it 319 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: to What Democrats have decided in this shutdown is that 320 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: government working is not the goal. Destroying our political enemies 321 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: is the goal. Destroying the political enemy is everything, which 322 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: brings us to two very unique stories about how they. 323 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: Go about this task. 324 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: In both cases, it's about pretending something is happening that 325 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: is not, or pretending something isn't happening that is. I 326 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: start with Stenny Hoyer, who is still in the House 327 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: of Representatives discussing, well, you guessed. 328 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 6: It, ladies and gentlemen. Every authoritarian leader has had his 329 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 6: grim reaper. 330 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: We are four seconds away from going full Peewee Herman. 331 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 2: And every time they say authoritarian, that's our word of 332 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: the day. You know what, Everyone loses their minds. If 333 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: I could do a Pewee Herman impression, I. 334 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: Would do it. I would do it, but I can't. 335 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: And no, now, Cartman, what are you doing in sadpack? 336 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: Jesus like close, I'm there. I'm almost there with Cartman, 337 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: and I don't know. I get really into the microphone 338 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: when I do an impression. 339 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: I can do better. I can do a better Cartman 340 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: than that. I know I can. I know I can. 341 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: I was discussing this day of my morning show. 342 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: I could do that, and I could do the really 343 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: creepy guy from Family Guy, The creepy neighbor what's his name, 344 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 2: Landon Herbert, right, how the like I could do that? 345 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: And that's a weird. 346 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: Impression to be able to do. I'm not particularly proud 347 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: of myself. 348 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: But that's that's that's where I'm at. But we need 349 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: to get the whole word of the day thing from. 350 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: Peewee's playhouse that every time the left says authoritarian. 351 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, every authoritarian leader has had his grim reaper. 352 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: Every single time. 353 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta play some kind of of weirdos, 354 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: sound effects, something nuts, because it's all they talk about. 355 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: None of it's true. 356 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: Of course, you have the president saying, man, the courts 357 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: better agree with me on tariffs. 358 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: Man, the courts better agree with me on that. 359 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: He knows that the courts don't agree with him, he's 360 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: not gonna be able to do certain things. This is 361 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: not authoritarian, but this is what we're told. This is 362 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: the kind of rhetoric we get. 363 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 6: Russell vote is Donald Trump's grim Reaper. 364 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: Trump. 365 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: Can we just discuss how good of a job the 366 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: Democrat from Maryland, Stenny Hoyer is doing here and bringing down, 367 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: toning down the rhetoric. 368 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: Can we just seriously landed. No one's gonna help me. 369 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: I got you, thank you. Wow. And he's got He's 370 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: got Jamie Raskin behind him. 371 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 6: They even posted a bizarre video describing vote in those terms. 372 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: That's who he wanted. A grim reaper. 373 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 6: Grim is defined in the dictionary as sinister, savage, and ferocious. 374 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 3: A trauma causer reaper is. 375 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 6: To find that which is used. 376 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: To cut down. 377 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's Timmy Hoyterer with the word of 378 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: the day. It's not authoritarian to take the laws that 379 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: are on the books. 380 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: And use them. 381 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: It's not authoritarian to say, if you're in the country illegally, 382 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: you have to go. It's not authoritarian to say you 383 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: Democrats won't vote for continuing resolution, so some people are 384 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: going to lose their jobs. No part of it is 385 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: authoritarian at all. None. There's nothing that Trump is doing 386 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: that isn't within the confines of the law. This authoritarian talk, 387 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: of course, is very much about them when you talk 388 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: about who they want to be able to engage freely. 389 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: If you talk about the political left, they don't believe 390 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: in free speech. More and more of the younger set 391 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: believes violence is okay to prevent people from saying things 392 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: you don't like. 393 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Who exactly are the authoritarians? 394 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: But authoritarian is terminology that is utilized to dehumanize, utilized 395 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: to denigrate, utilized not to bring down or bring down 396 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: the tone or tamp down the rhetoric, but rather gin up. 397 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: This can be seen a different way. 398 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 3: This can be seen. 399 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: With Larry Ellison. I'm sorry, do I say Larry Ellison? 400 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: He runs oracle? I mean Keith Allison, the Attorney General Minnesota, 401 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: Because the Attorney General Minnesota is on television saying he 402 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:07,239 Speaker 2: has never heard of Antifa, the anti fascists. 403 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: But they're actually the fascists. 404 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: But they call himselves the anti fascists, going back to 405 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: nineteen thirties Germany. They even carry the same flag. It's 406 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: a wordplay. It's a manipulation. It's Marxism from beginning to end. 407 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: Of course they are fascists. Oh you don't agree with us, 408 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: we physically attack you. We block you from being able 409 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: to cross the street, We block you from being able 410 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 2: to drive. If you try and move ahead, we physically 411 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: assault you. They're the ones who go after immigrations and 412 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: customs enforcement agents. 413 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: They're the ones who build the. 414 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: Apps to say, hey, track these people and then attack 415 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: these people docks, these people go to their homes, hurt them, 416 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: harm them. And Democrats want to tell us that Antifa 417 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 2: doesn't exist in the same breadth they tell us Trump 418 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: is an authoritarian when Trump clearly, based on every measure, 419 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: is not an authoritarian. There's no use of well, I 420 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: have this authority and isn't following the law. It's always 421 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: about following the law. Look at the lawsuits to take place. 422 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: Things get held up when the lawsuits take place, which 423 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: I think are all slap suits, slapsuits, strategic lawsuit against 424 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: public participation, slapp slapsuit. 425 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: It's in that vein, although it might be called something 426 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: else when it's at that level. But here's Keith Ellison, 427 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: the Attorney General of Minnesota. So the fact that there 428 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: is no I mean is nobody even knows what it is. 429 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 7: The first person I ever heard use the word antifa 430 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 7: was Donald J. Trump when he was going on about 431 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 7: how there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville. 432 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: That's the first time I ever heard anyone use the term. 433 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: So now it's this amorphous thing. 434 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: And if nobody's really antifa, then everybody could be. 435 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: Oh, Keith. 436 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: First to notice how he pushes the live of Charlottesville. 437 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 2: President Trump did not say there are very fine people 438 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: on both sides. He was not referring to those people 439 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: engaged in the violence, who he denounced as clear as day. 440 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: But they still lie about it. They still lie about it, 441 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: a far more authoritarian thing to do. 442 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: But if you're watching the live stream, let me show 443 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: you the video of this, because on the left side 444 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: you'll see. 445 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: Keith Ellison discussing this, and on the right. 446 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: Side you will see a picture he posted of himself 447 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen holding the anti fascist handbook Antifa, the 448 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: anti Fascist Handbook. This is what he said to TV 449 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: cameras yesterday. 450 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 7: So the fact that there is no one, I mean, 451 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 7: is nobody even knows what it is. First I ever 452 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 7: heard use the word antifa was Donald J. 453 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: Trump. 454 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: He's he's there's literally a photo of him holding the book. 455 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: He posted it and now wants to tell you I 456 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: never heard of it until Trump brought it up. 457 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: The lies, the manipulation and all of it. 458 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,239 Speaker 2: What they say isn't true, and every bit of it 459 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: meant to gaslight. 460 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 3: Trump's an authoritarian. 461 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: No, the people who believe they should be able to 462 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: commit acts of violence to keep others from speaking authoritarians. 463 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: Antifa isn't real, but of course it is, and they 464 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: know it is and they support it, but they tell 465 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: you it's not real. And Jimmy Kimmel lies again after 466 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: lying about the assassination of Charlie Kirk and says Antifa 467 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: isn't real. 468 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: People who have the facts on their. 469 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: Side, I don't think need to lie like this. The 470 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: people who have the people on their side don't need 471 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: to lie like this. They lie about Antifa not being 472 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: real because Antifa is real, and they lie about Trump 473 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: being an authoritarian because Trump isn't an authoritarian. 474 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: And the proof is right in front of your eyes. 475 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 3: You just gotta be willing to see through their lie. 476 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 3: You gotta be willing to call them out on the line. 477 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: And it's not that you have to engage in some way. 478 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: You could just ignore these people, but you gotta remember 479 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: it when you go to vote. Don't let these liars 480 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: who work on gaslighting America get any power ever. 481 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today. 482 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 8: Is all of that is in the bill that you 483 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 8: tried to pass, and it didn't pass. That's in your proposal, 484 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 8: But you started that answer by saying we want to 485 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 8: sit down and talk about it. That suggests that what 486 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 8: you just said is negotiable, is it. 487 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 9: I think we're always ready and willing and able to 488 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 9: have a good faith discussion with our colleagues on the 489 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 9: other side of the aisle. 490 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: That wasn't the question, Akiem Jeffries. That is Dana Bash 491 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: of CNN asking what it is that we've discussed already, 492 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, you keep hearing Hakeem Jeffries. 493 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm wonderful we'll do it here, say that we'll sit 494 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: down anywhere, anytime with anyone. 495 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 9: To entertain any ideas that they may put forth with 496 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 9: respect to both reopening the government and of course, decisively 497 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 9: addressing the Republican healthcare crisis. 498 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: The problem that we confront, Dana. 499 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 9: Is that Republicans have gone radio silent since the shutdown began. 500 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 9: No conversations, no meetings, no discussions. Donald Trump has held 501 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 9: them back from even having a meaningful engagement to try to. 502 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 8: Find You're right down the hall from Mike Johnson's office. 503 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 8: I know exactly where you are. You could probably take 504 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 8: a few steps and go knock on the door and 505 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 8: talk to him. 506 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 9: Have you tried that h sweaka Johnson hasn't been given 507 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 9: permission to have a conversation with me Alita Schumer, and 508 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 9: he said as much earlier today. 509 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: No, he didn't. But it's a great, great. 510 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: Explanation here or example here, and I applaud down to 511 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: basher doing so that the Democrats will sit down anywhere 512 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: in time with anyone to discuss the shutdown. Their philosophy 513 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 2: is do what they want, not to engage in any 514 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: other conversation. Your answer is, well, Mike Johnson won't talk 515 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: to me. Did you try and talk to Mike Johnson? 516 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: Did you make the overture? And again he doesn't even 517 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: answer that one. No, the writing's on the wall here 518 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: that this shutdown is what it is. The Democrats are 519 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: are desperate to try to engage the spin I just 520 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: argue that it's not working. 521 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: Of course, people spin no, no, no, we're right, No, no, no, 522 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 3: we're right. 523 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: I think in the main over the past two weeks, 524 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: no one is paying attention to the shutdown at all. 525 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm really no one is paying attention. We've mentioned it 526 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: like like once a show basically and moved on. I 527 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: think now getting to the place where people aren't gonna 528 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: get pay checks. You can see more people paying attention, 529 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: you can certainly see more news outlets. 530 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: Talking about it. 531 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: But if the argument is will sit down, it doesn't 532 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: matter if you're sit down, are you willing to not 533 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: get everything you want? If the answer is no, the 534 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: shutdown continues. Mike Johnson, the speaker said this could last 535 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 2: a long time. 536 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: My fault. 537 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: Thought that was a good question from Dana Bash. 538 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: For sure. Guys, we have much more show to get 539 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 3: to keep it here, including they're. 540 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: Gonna do one of these no Kings protests again, and 541 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: let us dig into Christianama port that story. Keep it 542 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: here because he's Tony Kats today. 543 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: Line from Ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 544 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, No Kings. 545 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. 546 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: They're going to have a rally this Saturday, and it's 547 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: no Kings. 548 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: And oh well, when. 549 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: You can't win on policy, when you can't actually convince people. 550 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 3: To be on your. 551 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: Side, when you have nothing. 552 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 3: At all. 553 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: That connects you with the American people on any substance, Okay, 554 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: go out there and scream that Trump is an authoritarian. 555 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: We've we've already blown that concept out of the water. 556 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: Trump's a dictator. 557 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: We've already blown that out of the water. 558 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: Don't bring down the rhetoric, build it up because that's 559 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: the only thing you know how to do. Let us 560 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: at least recognize that if the Left has been good 561 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: at one thing over the last year, it's getting people 562 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: to commit acts of violence. 563 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: Too soon. 564 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: Tony Kats Tony Cats today, great to be the eight 565 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: three three got Tony eight three three four six eight 566 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: eight six six' nine eight three three Got. Tony of, 567 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: course the live stream is, happening YouTube dot, com Slash Tony, 568 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 2: kats get in the chat. Room you can email Me 569 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: tony At tony kats dot com And twitter. X Tony, 570 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: katz the organizer of The No kings, protest in his own, words. 571 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 10: It's also funny that they can't actually say No. Kings 572 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 10: they've got to make some other name up. 573 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 3: For, it because they understand. It they say no. 574 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 10: Kings how is that? 575 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 3: Objectionable? 576 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 10: Right how could anybody say that that's anything other than 577 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 10: the Most american things since Apple? Pie BUT i do 578 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 10: think we have to hold two things in our head 579 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 10: at the same. 580 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: Time one can. 581 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: We just stop for a. Moment what do you mean 582 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: they can't say no? Kings i'm assuming you mean me 583 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 2: as you sit there and you talk To Rachel maddow 584 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 2: ON msnbc OR ms now or whatever they're calling, It. 585 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: What do you mean they can't say no? Kings they 586 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 3: called this No king's. 587 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: Rally, Right trump's a, king and we don't believe in, 588 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: kings so therefore no. 589 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: KINGS I i just said. It why in the world 590 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 3: would you. 591 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 2: Say that they Can't what is? That what do you 592 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: mean they can't say? It so, weird but let's let him. 593 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 10: Continue anybody who's been to a protest this year that's 594 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 10: been organized By indivisible where No kings has seen moms 595 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 10: and grandmas and kids and dogs and funny, chants and 596 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 10: it was a feeling of joyous, power. 597 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: Just like the tea, party, Right just like the tea. 598 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: Party it was moms and kids and people who were dressed. 599 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: Up some of them went, very very very. 600 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: Colonial AND i was always, LIKE i don't get, it 601 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: but you, do you boo. 602 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: Boo i'm just glad you're. 603 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: Here so, yeah that's not any, different, right and it 604 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 2: will go like the tea part, party which is? It 605 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: in and of itself didn't actually do the. 606 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 3: Thing. 607 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Well at least The Tea party was built on the 608 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: idea that we have to put an end to the 609 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: insane and. Taxation we shouldn't be engaged in the radicalness of. 610 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 3: Bailouts we should follow the. 611 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: Constitution no kings is predicated on mythology and not anything 612 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 2: of actual. Basis but if you want to say we 613 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: shouldn't have, KINGS i, agree except we don't have kings 614 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 2: out in the. 615 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 10: Streets and on the other, hand we've got an authoritarian 616 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 10: regime who wants to crack down on free. Speech so 617 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 10: we should show up in, force and we should take. 618 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 10: Care we should attend the security training, briefings we should 619 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 10: attend the how to de escalate briefings and. Trainings we 620 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 10: should do that work so that if anything, happens that 621 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 10: these protests. 622 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: Were ready to do. It but. 623 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: If anything happens at these, protests one could assume it's 624 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: going to happen from inside the. House it's going to 625 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: be a leftist who attacks. Others this idea that somehow 626 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: the political right is the are the ones interested in 627 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: curtailing free. Speech it is the left that said you 628 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 2: could not talk about the problems WITH covid. Vaccines it 629 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: is the left that moved heaven and earth to ensure 630 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: you could not talk About Hunter biden's. Laptop it is 631 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,720 Speaker 2: the left in poll after poll after poll that states 632 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: that it is okay to confront people you disagree with 633 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: with the. Violence and it is the left that Assassinated Charlie. 634 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 3: Kirk CAN i help? You you keep saying this? 635 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 2: Thing but is the psychologists of the world would, explain 636 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: this is a concept of. 637 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: Projection you take what it, is. 638 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: You believe what you're, doing and you project it on 639 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: to someone. Else is there anybody in the sound of 640 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: my voice who questions whether that is not the case 641 00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:02,959 Speaker 2: of what the political left is? Doing the authoritarians as 642 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 2: a organized group are the, progressives political, CORRECTNESS dei thought? 643 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: Speech what else is this? Stuff but ways to try 644 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 2: and prevent people from? Engaging and again the polling okay with? 645 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: Violence you chased After Riley gaines because she said men 646 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: are not women and women are not. Men which. 647 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 3: Men are not women and women are not. 648 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 2: Men is such a, basic easy to understand. Thing as 649 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 2: a matter of. Fact anybody who can't say that is 650 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: somebody who needs a. Check oh, no not a physical, 651 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: check a mental, check and we have data to show 652 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 2: exactly where that conversation is going In america with its young. 653 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: People i've got that story coming, up but let him finish. 654 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 10: Up give Your First amendment rights under, attack and you 655 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 10: decline to show up because of those, threats you. 656 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: Don't Have First amendment. 657 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 10: Rights so if anybody is out there, watching that sends, like, 658 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 10: WELL i don't, Know i've never been to a. Protester 659 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 10: i'm hearing a lot of gnarly stuff from this, regime 660 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 10: and MAYBE i won't come. Out let me tell you 661 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 10: it's going to be, funny it's going to be, powerful 662 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 10: and it's going to be part of. 663 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 2: History first Things, first you do not have to show 664 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: up to a protest some of Your First amendment. Rights, 665 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: HOWEVER i do, absolutely wholeheartedly believe that you. 666 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 3: Need to exercise your. 667 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: Rights you need to exercise Your First amendment, rights Your 668 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 2: Second memor, rights all the, rights and one should always be, 669 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: prepared no matter what the, situation to deal with an unruly, 670 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: element to deal with a violent, element which we have 671 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: seen from The left time and again and again and. 672 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: AGAIN i say this about going to your synagogue or your, 673 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 2: church buy, guns biamo and get. Trained you're a soft 674 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,399 Speaker 2: target in your place of, worship and any faith leader 675 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: who says we don't carry firearms, here fire them or 676 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 2: find another place of, worship because that person's going to get. 677 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: Killed we should not be engaged in political. Assassination we 678 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: should not be engaged in political violence. Attack we cannot 679 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 2: be that society and. Thrive have your No king's. Rally 680 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: i'm not telling you not to have Your First amendment. 681 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 2: Rights knock it out of the. Park the problem, is 682 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: what is it that you're exactly trying to knock out 683 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: of the. 684 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 3: Park it's predicated on a. 685 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 2: LIE i didn't say you couldn't have a gathering based 686 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: on a. 687 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 3: Lie Lewis farrakhan has gatherings all the. 688 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 2: Time i'm, saying could you find something better to have 689 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 2: a gathering about the political right Or trump specifically as 690 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: an authoritarian is. Myth there's nothing real, Here there's nothing honest. 691 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 2: Here there is nothing in any way correct about. 692 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: That it's a. 693 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 2: Fraud you are having this rally because you have no 694 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 2: way of connecting with the people on. Policy you have. 695 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 2: NOTHING i think the guy's name Is. Ezra you've got. 696 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: Nothing what possibly are you going to reach people on the. 697 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 2: ECONOMY i argue the economy as. ISSUES i can't stand the. 698 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 2: Tariffs what's your plan more? Taxes, okay we're done. Here 699 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: are you gonna connect with us on the southern? Border 700 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: you kept it, open you cost people. Lives trump utilized 701 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: the laws on the, books and now we have zero. 702 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 2: Crossings Tom holman is doing the yeoman's. Work Christinom, OKAY 703 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 2: i don't need you being at sites of raids in any. 704 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 3: Bit of uniform or in. Gear we don't need. That 705 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: we're good. 706 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 2: Without that secretary, now but doing the. Work didn't have 707 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: to change the, law just had to use. Them you're 708 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: not connecting with anybody on the, border which is far 709 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: better than it has ever. 710 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: Been you're not connecting with anybody on the. Shutdown. LISTEN 711 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 3: i just brought up three, subjects. 712 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: And you're the side that has to either begrudgingly say 713 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: well Done President trump or not even recognize him in 714 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: regards to getting the twenty hostages returned from the terrorist Organization. 715 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 3: Hamas name me another, subject, guys let's go through, it. 716 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 3: RIGHT i just named for. NOW i want you to do. 717 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: IT i want you to give me a subject where 718 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 2: the political left. 719 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 3: Is somehow connected with The american. People name the. Subject 720 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 3: that's the. Point they don't have. 721 00:45:53,320 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 2: Anything they had to invent a topic predicated on a 722 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 2: lie to get their people, out to satisfy their emotional, 723 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: incapacity incapability of dealing with the fact that they have 724 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 2: a party that is. Rudderless they have a party that is. 725 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: Leaderless no one wants this, Mantle no one could take the. 726 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 3: Mantle what do they stand? 727 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 2: For If democrats are serious about not just twenty twenty, 728 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: six but twenty twenty, eight they're going. 729 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 3: To have to say this is what we stand. 730 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: For and right, now the only Two democrats who are 731 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 2: actually willing to say this is WHAT i stand for 732 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: in a way that might attract really misguided. People but 733 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 2: still Are Bernie sanders And Acosio. Quetez which would be 734 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: The Democratic party admitting that they are the socialist, party 735 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: which they. 736 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: Are they just don't want to have to admit. It 737 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 3: there's the. 738 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: Issue The Republican party has plenty of, issues and plenty of, 739 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: problems and plenty of Stupid but that's enough About Marjorie Taylor. 740 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 2: Green they can be the party of The, border they 741 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: can be a party of the. Economy they can be 742 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 2: a party of, peace they can be a party of 743 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: the common. Man they could be the party of The american. 744 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 2: Dream that was just off the top of my. Head 745 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 2: and you can't do it with The. Democrats so they invent. 746 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 2: It and sure people will come, out because you, know 747 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: people who are emotional need some kind of emotional. Outlet 748 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: i'm not saying, no they'll come, out but the people 749 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: coming out are already the people coming. Out do you 750 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: attract anybody? New, nope. 751 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: You. 752 00:47:53,960 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 2: Can't you can't attract anyone, new not with this because 753 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 2: this is not. Inspiring this is just, anger and you 754 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 2: already have people who are. ANGRY i don't, disagree but 755 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 2: it doesn't win. Elections, now you tell, Me, tony if 756 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 2: you make people angry, enough and that you make people fearful, 757 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: enough they'll vote for. Anything, OKAY i get your historical. 758 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 2: Point my point to you is that the people aren't that. 759 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 3: Angry they don't agree with, everything but things are better 760 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 3: than With biden and With. 761 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 2: Harris things are. Better the border is, better the peace 762 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 2: deals are. Better it's. Better it's a hard thing to, 763 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 2: deny but they'll have their. Protesting hopefully it'll go safe and, 764 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 2: well and then they'll still. Lose I'm Tony. Katz this 765 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 2: Is Tony katz, today. 766 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 11: SO i will close with a brief discussion of the 767 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 11: economy and the outlook for monetary. Policy although some important 768 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 11: government data have been delayed due to the, shutdown we 769 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 11: routinely review a wide variety of public and private sycer 770 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 11: data that have remained. Available we also maintain a nationwide 771 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 11: network of contacts through The Reserve, banks who provide valuable, 772 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 11: insights which will be summarized in tomorrow's page. Book based 773 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 11: on the data we do, have it's fair to say 774 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 11: that the outlook for employment and inflation does not appear 775 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 11: to have changed much since Our september meeting four weeks. 776 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: Ago so what does that? 777 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 2: Mean That's Jerome powell speaking right, There chairman of The Federal, 778 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 2: Reserve so. 779 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 3: What does that mean to the rest OF? 780 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 11: Us data available prior to the, shutdown, however show that 781 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 11: growth and economic activity maybe on a somewhat firmer trajectory than. 782 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 3: Expected while the. 783 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 11: Unemployment rate remained low Through, august payroll gains have slowed, 784 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 11: sharply likely in part due to a decline in labor 785 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 11: force growth due to lower immigration and lower labor force. 786 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 11: Participation in this less dynamic and somewhat softer labor, market the, 787 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 11: downside risks to employment appear to have. Risen while official 788 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 11: employment data For september are, delayed available evidence suggests that 789 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 11: both layoffs and hiring remain, low and that both households 790 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 11: perceptions of job availability and firms perceptions of hiring difficulty 791 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 11: continue their downward. 792 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 2: Trajectories so this economy is. STABILIZING i, MEAN i think 793 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 2: that's the Way i'm supposed to. Read Jerome powell, there 794 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: Doctor Matt, well economist at The university Of, indianapolis to 795 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 2: be with me a little bit later as we walk 796 00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: through how things are. Happening because gold prices. 797 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 3: Are through the. 798 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 2: Roof we're over forty one hundred on gold, prownce we're 799 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: over fifty. Dollars we had a high of fifty three 800 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: dollars on, Silver we're over fifty one. 801 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: Dollars, now those are, things those are. 802 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 2: Hedges so we will we will get in to. It 803 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 2: we will kind of break that. Down but there was a. 804 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 2: Story where is my story About? UKRAINE i have it 805 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 2: on the show sheet if you need to search for. 806 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: It trump is now very focused On. Ukraine he's, LIKE 807 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 2: i got victory in The Middle. East i'm moving on 808 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 2: to the next. Thing and there was a story about 809 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 2: HOW Us intel is Helping ukraine Target russian energy. Infrastructure 810 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: this according to a report from The Financial, Times trump 811 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: sits With putin And anchorage, says let's get to a. 812 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 2: Deal putin's, like oh, man that sounds that sounds. Peachy 813 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: and Then trump meets with these world leaders and they're, 814 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 2: like we don't know if there's anything. Here and Then 815 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 2: putin goes back to Being putin and doesn't. Care we 816 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 2: were caught. Up The ukrainians have had incredible good fortune 817 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: with being able to Hit russian energy And russian energy. 818 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 2: Supplies russia has been able to bomb at will on The, 819 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 2: ukrainians trying to keep them in the, dark especially as 820 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: they head into, winter where In ukraine and In russia 821 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: it gets. 822 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 3: Cold but this is. 823 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 2: The FIRST i had heard ABOUT Us intel giving information 824 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: To ukraine to help them specifically with, infrastructure because there 825 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 2: was a time there where The trump administruction was holding 826 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 2: up in the sharing of information because this was to 827 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: try and Get zelenski to the. Table realizing That zelenski 828 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: isn't so much the, issue not That zelenski should so 829 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 2: much be, trusted but That putin is clearly the. Issue 830 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 2: now you're going in a different. Direction The russians have 831 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 2: only come out to say that if you Give ukraine, 832 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 2: tomahawks the missile system the ability to reach places Like, moscow, 833 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 2: well then the relationship with Between moscow and THE us 834 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: is is. Done it's clear That trump wants. This he 835 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 2: wants this, done he wants this finish because it's a 836 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 2: promise that he, made and he considers making these deals 837 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 2: among some of the most important things he's ever. 838 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 3: Accomplished it matters. 839 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 2: To, him whether it matters to his, ego however you 840 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 2: want to call, it it matters to him. Greatly, meanwhile In, 841 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: poland they're gearing up for the. Fight you already had 842 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 2: The russian incursion involving, drones which based on a lot of. 843 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 2: Conversation this was about The russians having no idea how 844 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 2: to work their. Hardware they're, incompetent that's their. Problem so 845 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 2: the fact that they flew themselves Over polish airspace wasn't 846 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: about trying to say BORATOS i first. Thought it was 847 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 2: on analysis looking at, it talking to. People So russians are, 848 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 2: incompetent but the aggression of The russians to try and 849 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,800 Speaker 2: still get the better deal moving a little bit, westward 850 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 2: which means Towards poland and, others. 851 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,959 Speaker 3: And The poles are, saying we're ready for the. Fight 852 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 3: we'll see IF nato Is this Is Tony katz. 853 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 2: Today so there is a musical artist from back in. 854 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 3: The day known as D'Angelo r AND B Neo, Soul Tony. 855 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,959 Speaker 2: Katz Tony katz today passed away today at the age 856 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 2: of fifty. One and my, producer producer land and sent 857 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 2: it to, me And, sarah who runs All Things digital 858 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,800 Speaker 2: sent it to. Me and in both CASES i, said 859 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 2: all due, respect who is? D'Angelo And sarah is screaming at. 860 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 2: Me how do you not know? 861 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 3: THIS i don't know the. 862 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 2: NAME i guess he had been battling cancer for a while. 863 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 3: AND i don't know what he was doing. 864 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 2: Now signed in ninety three to Em i'm reading the 865 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 2: report From. 866 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 3: Variety he wrote the hit you will, know any may. 867 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 2: Know the SONG i don't debut album is Called Brown. 868 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 2: Sugar july of nineteen ninety, five sixty five weeks of 869 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 2: The billboard two. 870 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 3: Hundred oh that's, well done. 871 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 2: And was part of the neo soul, movement FUSING r 872 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 2: AND ba the sixties and the seventies with contemporary hip 873 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: hop informed. Styles he's featured On Lauren hill's Album The 874 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 2: Miseducational Lauren Hill Lauren, HILL i, know singing playing, piano 875 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 2: and then he did his work With questlove of The. 876 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: Roots i'm trying to remember and the ANSWERS i. Don't 877 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 2: he's got a, story he's got a. 878 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 3: HISTORY i just. DON'T i just don't recall the. 879 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 2: Work so if you, do send me songs THAT i 880 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 2: should listen to and WILL i will give. 881 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 3: Them A i will give them a. Go then there's. 882 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: This this is a piece of. Data this piece of 883 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 2: data is a discussion of who identifies. 884 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 3: As. 885 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: Trans now we know that everything involving the transgender world 886 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 2: when it comes to children and certainly later it came 887 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 2: to be, adults is social. Contagion you're not really a, 888 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 2: Boy you're a. Girl you know you feel this way 889 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 2: that means we should do. This oh you should take. 890 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 2: That oh you're so, Special oh you matter so. Much 891 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 2: oh you're allowed to be. This you could say that 892 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 2: you're allowed to be in this locker. Room you can 893 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: be in this, bathroom you can be in this. Work social, 894 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 2: contagion look at? Me did it for? Attention did it 895 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 2: because they were? Confused did adults abuse? Them this is 896 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 2: what took. PLACE i don't apologize for noticing such a, 897 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 2: thing AND i either should. You you don't have to 898 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 2: apologize for being. Honest the social contagion, was look. 899 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 3: At how look at all all the benefits these people 900 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 3: are getting. ON i want some of. 901 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: That the social contagion, was, well this is the answer 902 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 2: to all my, confusion as opposed to doing the hard 903 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 2: work to get out of the, confusion to figure yourself 904 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 2: out without puberty, blockers without these things that are create irreversible. Damage, 905 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 2: well you're on a puberty, blocker but you can just 906 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 2: go off the puberty blocker and you're. Fine you have 907 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 2: changed puberty for. Forever it's not just fine. Medically these 908 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 2: people are. Ghouls oh, well if you say you're a, 909 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 2: boy well then we should just remove your perfectly healthy. 910 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 2: Breasts that's. Disgusting and then they have the audacity to tell, 911 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 2: us oh, no, no, no it's gender affirming. Care you're 912 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 2: not supposed to affirm their gender when they claim to 913 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 2: be something they're. Not you're supposed to say. No you're 914 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 2: supposed to love children enough to say. No no you 915 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 2: can't have another. Cookie no you can't jump off the. 916 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 2: Roof no you can't stay up past. Midnight no you 917 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 2: can't go to that kid's house or a party when 918 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 2: his parents are, there aren't? 919 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 3: There and, no you're. 920 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 2: Not allowed to have mutilation surgery because you feel a 921 00:59:58,720 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 2: certain way right. 922 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 3: Now. No. 923 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 2: No and then we saw the kids who, detransitioned and 924 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 2: we saw how they were met with total. Hostility they 925 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 2: were met with. Hatred you don't talk about, them you 926 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 2: don't engage their, stories not even the possibility that someone could, 927 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 2: say you know WHAT i was? 928 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 3: Wrong oh, no, no, no, no. No and this is 929 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 3: at once. 930 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 2: A child decides us they know exactly what they. Want why, 931 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 2: gosh my three year old knows exactly what they. Want, no, no, 932 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 2: no they. Don't your three year old is. Three they 933 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what they. Want they still go to 934 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 2: the bathroom in their. Pants they don't know exactly what they. 935 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 2: Want your three year old is Like Joe. Biden they 936 01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 2: don't know exactly what they. Want social contagion explains much 937 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 2: of what it is that we have seen a tremendous. 938 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 2: Amount Eric kaufman put out a. Post Eric kaufman is 939 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 2: a professor of politics out Of vancouver now lives In, 940 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 2: london and what he posted was a. Graph very. Interesting 941 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 2: the graph tells a story the sheriff students not identifying 942 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 2: as male or, female and it has three different groups. 943 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 3: That are queried. 944 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Here, now when you say to, Me, tony what do 945 01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 2: you mean by not identifying as male or? Female in 946 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 2: the height of the, Insanity, Oh i'm not a. Boy 947 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh i'm not a. Girl Oh i'm non. Binary Oh 948 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 2: i'm gender, Fluid i'm, This i'm. That all that facocta 949 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 2: ridiculousness that was on the ascendancy since twenty, nineteen an 950 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 2: aggressive peaking taking place in nearly ten percent. 951 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 3: Of students by twenty twenty. Three you think. 952 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 2: That's the, case because that's not how science, works certainly 953 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 2: not the science and the data regarding gender dysphoria as 954 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 2: described IN dsm, five the Diagnostic. Manual Diagnostic MANUAL i 955 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 2: apologize from The American Psychiatric. Association from that, peak it 956 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 2: has now come back to between two and four. Percent 957 01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 2: so what? Happened what does the data tell? Us the 958 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 2: data tells us that people tried, this this wasn't. 959 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 3: For, them and they. 960 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Stopped the data also told us that people realized this 961 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 2: is all just ridiculous. 962 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 3: Nonsense what are we doing? 963 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Here this is, Silly this is, silly and this is 964 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 2: ugly and in many cases this is. Gross it tells 965 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 2: me that parents got a hold of things right, quick 966 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 2: and so did. Society this is the portion of non heterosexual. 967 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 3: Which rose in twenty twenty. 968 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 2: Two in twenty twenty, three half Of america is now 969 01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 2: something else And i'm not just talking about gay has 970 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 2: now seen the move. Downward interesting. Numbers if you take 971 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 2: a look at freshmen in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty, 972 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 2: five those numbers are down where they see themselves as. 973 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 3: TRANS i only hope we are in the. 974 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Place where this horror show of abusing children. 975 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 3: Is fizzling, out. 976 01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 2: And for the people who abuse children and still share 977 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 2: this idea that they should still push the idea of 978 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 2: gender affirming, care which is a. 979 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 3: Lie it is child. Abuse any hospital engaging in this 980 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 3: should not have. Funding you are mutilating. Children you're not. Doctors, 981 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 3: no you're not. Smarter no you do not know, More, 982 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 3: no you Don't. 983 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 2: You abuse children and there should be no reason for 984 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 2: you to ever be allowed to hold a scalpel. Again 985 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 2: society should say and decide very, clearly we don't do that. 986 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 3: Here we do not entertain child. 987 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 2: Abusers we do not put them in positions of, Authority 988 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 2: we do not put them on a. 989 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:40,560 Speaker 3: Pedestal we don't call them, doctor and we. 990 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 2: Shouldn't we should not in any, way shape or. Form 991 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 2: so one of the things that they looked at is 992 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 2: the idea of, depression the idea of mental. 993 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 3: ILLNESS i. 994 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 2: Share i'm a, BELIEVER i, SAY i share with, you 995 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 2: But i've shared this with. 996 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,320 Speaker 3: You before THAT i don't actually. 997 01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Believe that mental illness is on the. RISE i believe 998 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 2: in anxiety that's on the. Rise it's anxiety that has 999 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 2: been the. Issue, well the data is showing that the 1000 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 2: numbers of students in twenty twenty three that were anxious 1001 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 2: was almost forty percent and depressed was over fifteen. Percent 1002 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 2: that was in twenty twenty, three and in twenty twenty 1003 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 2: five the amount of anxious is under thirty percent and 1004 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 2: depressed is at ten. Percent numbers that ARE i think 1005 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 2: still frightening in their, height AND i do not know 1006 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 2: how they equate these numbers to numbers going back ten 1007 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 2: years or fifteen. Years but if this is the, case 1008 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 2: our kids are less, anxious our kids are less. Depressed 1009 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 2: Good you, know saying no to a kid is. Valuable 1010 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 2: engaging guidelines with a kid is. Valuable letting a kid 1011 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: know it's okay to be. Confused you have time to 1012 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 2: work it. Out don't look for quick. Fixes take the 1013 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,000 Speaker 2: time to love yourself enough like we love, you to 1014 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 2: figure out your. 1015 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,160 Speaker 3: Way and we're right here if you want to. 1016 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 2: Talk but, no we're not going to let you do 1017 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 2: anything that's permanent because you might change your. 1018 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 3: Mind and that's okay. Too that's what good parents. 1019 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 2: DO i think truly awful people, say, yeah let's go 1020 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 2: cut that, off let's go take these. Pills this is 1021 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 2: extremely good. Data i'm happy to see. It I'm Tony. 1022 01:07:53,720 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 2: Kains the headline over At News Nation israel to Slash 1023 01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 2: gaza's aid over slow return of dead. Hostages it hasn't 1024 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:13,919 Speaker 2: been a day and Already hamas is not doing what 1025 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 2: they agreed, to what they signed. To Tony, katz DID i, say, 1026 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 2: Hello Tony, KATSAY i forget sometimes. 1027 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,600 Speaker 3: They are twenty eight. 1028 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 2: Deceased hostages where the remains are In gaza And hamas 1029 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 2: is handed back the remains of four. 1030 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 3: Where are the other twenty? 1031 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 2: Four israeli saying that the slowness is a violation of the, 1032 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 2: ceasefire calling it a blatant violation or others of the 1033 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 2: agreement By. Hamas So israel's going to slash the number 1034 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 2: of humanitarian aid trucks allowed into the tech. Territory and 1035 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:07,440 Speaker 2: what you're gonna hear from the left is see. Genocide 1036 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 2: hamas has already shown and seen on video Executing palestinians 1037 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 2: they believed worked with collaborated with The. 1038 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 3: Israelis they're doing this all over. 1039 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 2: And not returning these, remains slow rolling it. 1040 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,640 Speaker 3: Now it's very possible they don't have all the. 1041 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Remains it's very possible they ensured that some families will 1042 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 2: never get them because they're. 1043 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,560 Speaker 3: Terrorists and this is who they. Are this is not 1044 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 3: this is not shocking or. Surprised that's who they. Are 1045 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 3: it's how they, work it's how they, act it's how they. 1046 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 3: Think it's the. Everything it's the. 1047 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Everything so maybe that's what we're seeing. Here can't return 1048 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 2: so that you don't, Have but why would you sign 1049 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 2: the deal if you weren't going to be able to do. 1050 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 2: It why would you give up the bargaining, chip the 1051 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 2: assumption that it's all going to work out in your, 1052 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 2: favor the assumption that is you're already, signed so now 1053 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:21,320 Speaker 2: the world will really get aggressive in stopping. Them, guys 1054 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 2: you got back to the people who were. Alive it's enough, 1055 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 2: enough all, right? 1056 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 3: Right one of those nothing THAT i have seen about. 1057 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 2: The israelis says that they're okay with. That nothing at. 1058 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 2: All you would want this to, work and you'd want 1059 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 2: this to. Hold why wouldn't? You why wouldn't any of? 1060 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 2: Us but The israelis expected their people back alive or, 1061 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:53,720 Speaker 2: dead And uma so far is not doing. It who 1062 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 2: could Trust? Himaus it always comes back to. That find 1063 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 2: everything At tony kats dot. Com much more coming. 1064 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 3: Up this Is Tony Katz Today. 1065 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Live from Ball hartbeyer and The crossroads Of. America It's 1066 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. 1067 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 12: Today the appropriations process was envisioned to be an exercise 1068 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 12: in good. Stewardship they wanted the members Of congress to have, open, 1069 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 12: transparent bipartisan line by line debate so that we could 1070 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 12: spend the people's money. Wisely and that's precisely What republicans 1071 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 12: are so eager to return to and what we have. 1072 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 3: Achieved we are pushing that boulder, uphill as up, said 1073 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:41,479 Speaker 3: and for. 1074 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 12: The first time since twenty, nineteen both, Chambers house And 1075 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 12: senate have made real progress towards that stewardship. Goal but 1076 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 12: we just need a little more time to finish. It 1077 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,160 Speaker 12: that's the only thing The HOUSE passcr. Does it's a, 1078 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:58,519 Speaker 12: clean short, term non partisan continuance of funding so that 1079 01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 12: that process can work, out. 1080 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 2: So that right there Is Speaker Mike johnson talking about the, 1081 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 2: shutdown day, fourteen and. 1082 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 3: We're all still. 1083 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 2: Here and While i've been saying for the past two 1084 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 2: weeks nobody, cares you're about to find out that some 1085 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 2: people are going to start, caring or maybe better, said 1086 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 2: it's going to get a whole lot louder people talking 1087 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 2: about this. Shutdown Tony Katz Tony Kats. Today always a, pleasure, 1088 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 2: guys so great to be. Here find EVERYTHING i do 1089 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 2: At tony kats dot com and. Subscribe i'd appreciate it 1090 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 2: if you. 1091 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 3: Would it's. 1092 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,840 Speaker 2: Free you can be a, supporter but it's. Free go 1093 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 2: To tony kats dot com and. Subscribe right, now people 1094 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 2: are going to start not getting, paid and now you're gonna, 1095 01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:40,559 Speaker 2: hear my. 1096 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,639 Speaker 3: Gosh look at What republicans are doing not paying. 1097 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 2: People, this of, course was the plan of The Democratic, 1098 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 2: party exact the pain to try and Get, well what 1099 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 2: really is the? 1100 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 3: Question what is the? 1101 01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,560 Speaker 2: Concession because if it's the expansion of The obamacare subsidies 1102 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 2: That democrats agree to when. 1103 01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 3: They voted for The Inflation Reduction. 1104 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 2: Act knowing it would sunset In december of twenty twenty 1105 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 2: five at the end of the year twenty twenty, five 1106 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 2: the expansion part is Something trump's gonna do and take credit. 1107 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 2: For AND i can accept the argument of, no you 1108 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 2: don't want. THAT i understand that argument all too. Well 1109 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 2: But trump's gonna do it and take credit for, it 1110 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 2: and populas are gonna be, like, oh this is great 1111 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:29,639 Speaker 2: because they're, populists And Marjorie Taylors green And Josh holly 1112 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 2: are out of their. 1113 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 3: Minds out of their minds is the only way to say. 1114 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:41,759 Speaker 2: It so Here's Speaker johnson getting into a conversation about proper. 1115 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 2: Stewardship but that's not the conversation that is going to move. 1116 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,160 Speaker 2: People when we, discuss, oh you're being in. Transigent, no 1117 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 2: what's going to move people is declaring exactly what's. Happening 1118 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Chuck schumer is the. Problem and here's. 1119 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,120 Speaker 12: Why now you've all Heard Chuck schumer demand That republicans 1120 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 12: have to come to the negotiate table well. Before this 1121 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,040 Speaker 12: is an important answer to some of the questions that 1122 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 12: you anticipate you last later because it comes up in 1123 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 12: every press. Conference WHY i want you to. 1124 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:09,479 Speaker 3: Negotiate here's the. 1125 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 13: Point we were. 1126 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,080 Speaker 12: Already doing that before The democrats recklessly shut down the 1127 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 12: government for their own political. Purposes republicans And democrats were 1128 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 12: already engaged and responsibill open bipartisan processes to find answers 1129 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 12: to these. Problems and What Chuck schumer means when he 1130 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 12: says that he wants us to negotiate is that he 1131 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,439 Speaker 12: is demanded and he said it. PUBLICLY i can't believe 1132 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 12: he says the quiet part's out loud. Sometimes but he 1133 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 12: wants a backroom. Deal he wants a backroom deal that 1134 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 12: The american people will never. See he literally has, said 1135 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 12: we need the top four leaders to go into a 1136 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 12: room and work this. Out why Does Chuck schumer say, 1137 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 12: that because that's how he's operated for. Decades he's been 1138 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,599 Speaker 12: In congress since nineteen. EIGHTY i was nine years old 1139 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 12: in the third grade When Chuck schummer got. Here, okay 1140 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 12: he is the broken status. Quo we are trying to 1141 01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 12: break the status quo so government works better for the. 1142 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,840 Speaker 12: People And chuck Sh number is resistant to that because 1143 01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,479 Speaker 12: he can't even imagine the. 1144 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 3: Way the founders intended for this to. 1145 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 12: Work he doesn't want this, open everybody, involved all, members 1146 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,600 Speaker 12: bottom up. Process he wants four people to go in 1147 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 12: a back room and just make this deal and hoist 1148 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 12: it down upon everybody. 1149 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 3: Else i'm not participating in. 1150 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 2: That this IS i think an effective approach From Speaker. Johnson. 1151 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 2: Twofold first, Things, first do you know how Old Chuck schumer. 1152 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:31,599 Speaker 2: IS i was in the third grade when he got 1153 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:37,639 Speaker 2: to The. Senate that's that's a statement and a half 1154 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 2: that there is no comeback for. That there's no pushback on. 1155 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,560 Speaker 2: That but then you engage the he's too old conversation 1156 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 2: by discussing the back. 1157 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 3: Room, NOW i would love it if it was a 1158 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,480 Speaker 3: cigar filled, backroom cigar smoke filled, backroom but It's Chuck schumer. 1159 01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 2: And he doesn't have that kind of you, know decency 1160 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 2: about him To Smoka. Cigar so all you're gonna have 1161 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 2: is the raw cheeseburger back, room and nobody wants to 1162 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 2: be in the raw cheeseburger back. Room i'm telling the 1163 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,839 Speaker 2: raw cheeseburger backroom is like the opposite of the champagne, 1164 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 2: room because while there's no sex in the champagne, room 1165 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,880 Speaker 2: in the raw cheeseburger, backroom guaranteed you're getting. Screwed i'm 1166 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 2: not apologizing for. That tell my stations right. Now set 1167 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 2: it meant. It it was, comedic and it was and 1168 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,799 Speaker 2: it was. Pointed it had all the elements you write 1169 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,719 Speaker 2: that Down. Marconi, HERE i. Come it's a really good 1170 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 2: approach From Mike, johnson AND i like. 1171 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 3: That it's got some. 1172 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 2: PUNCH i like, it it's got some, bite AND i 1173 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 2: like that it does add on to the idea of 1174 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 2: we're not doing that stuff. Anymore those are the days 1175 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 2: of yesteryear of Backwards. Democrats we're not doing that. Now 1176 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 2: you could argue a little bit that this kind of 1177 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 2: plays in the weeds of how these things are. 1178 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 3: Done but we're talking about how you are now putting 1179 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 3: the onus back On, schumer back on The Democratic, party fighting. 1180 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:13,240 Speaker 2: Back and this is something that's. WORTHWHILE i like seeing 1181 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,639 Speaker 2: it take. Place he then hands the microphone To Virginia, 1182 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,719 Speaker 2: fox who Is she's. 1183 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,800 Speaker 3: Delightful she is. 1184 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 2: Delightful and if you don't Know Virginia, fox that woman can. 1185 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 14: Punch i've listened to the arguments The democrats have been 1186 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,520 Speaker 14: making since they shut down the, government AND i cannot 1187 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 14: help shake my head in utter disgust every time they 1188 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 14: continue to lie like a. Rug they're trying desperately to 1189 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 14: change the conversation and defledged because they know they're in the, 1190 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 14: wrong and they've dug themselves into a, deep deep. Hole 1191 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 14: we've now entered day fourteen of their government, shutdown and 1192 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,000 Speaker 14: as the days go, on More americans are feeling the. 1193 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 14: Pain make no mistake about, it this is real pain 1194 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 14: being inflicted upon real. People, today four hundred thousand federal 1195 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 14: workers will receive partial. 1196 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 3: Paychecks the speaker called attention to this last. Week this 1197 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 3: will be. 1198 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 14: The last paycheck that these federal workers receive Until democrats 1199 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 14: grow a spine and reopen the federal. Government, meanwhile you 1200 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 14: Have Chuck schumer in The senate who, said in a 1201 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 14: recent interview quote every day gets better. 1202 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 3: For us end. 1203 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 14: Quote his statement is as callous as it is tone, 1204 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 14: deaf and it reveals to everyone how The democrats continue 1205 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:53,639 Speaker 14: to use Hardworking americans as pawns in their own grotesque political. 1206 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 14: Gain i'll close with a quick. Observation as the speaker said, 1207 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 14: previously there's a real split screen here In washington that 1208 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 14: The american people are watching While republicans are the ones 1209 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,720 Speaker 14: who have voted and are continuing to vote to reopen the. 1210 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:18,880 Speaker 14: Government democrats have treated their own shutdown as one big 1211 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 14: attention getting. Activity they've taken shutdown, selfies posted weird videos 1212 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:33,679 Speaker 14: of themselves doing everything except, working and they even hosted 1213 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 14: a live stream that failed to gain any traction. Whatsoever how. 1214 01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 14: Embarrassing these are not serious. People they continue to play 1215 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:52,560 Speaker 14: a dangerous game with the livelihoods Of, americans and contrary 1216 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 14: to What democrats, believe every day of this shutdown does 1217 01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 14: not get any better for The american. People that's a 1218 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,599 Speaker 14: stone cold, fact thank, you mister. 1219 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 3: Speaker stone cold gotta got a love. 1220 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,439 Speaker 2: It but in the, end, well, WELL i like the, 1221 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 2: talk AND i like the, DIRECTION i like the, focus 1222 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 2: AND i like the the unwillingness to to play the 1223 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 2: game with with these. People the the the shutdown is 1224 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 2: the fault of The. Democrats and one of the things 1225 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 2: that you're Seeing democrats do is, say, well you can 1226 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 2: just you, know go out there and uh and you, 1227 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 2: know you can get rid of the filibuster right and and, 1228 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 2: now and then you can vote for. 1229 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 3: It so why why why why don't You IT'S i. 1230 01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 2: Think this is a question of, politics which is to, say, 1231 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 2: well you're saying that you don't want to be participatory 1232 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 2: in government at. All that's your argument. Here you don't 1233 01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 2: want to be participatory at. All you think that this 1234 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 2: obfuscation is good and valuable and what people voted. For 1235 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 2: and it very much seems that the left is on 1236 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,759 Speaker 2: board with this. Idea it doesn't matter running the, country doesn't, 1237 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Matter Stopping, trump Stopping, republicans, obfuscating, attacking, destroying, dehumanizing. Denigrating 1238 01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:23,640 Speaker 2: those are the only things that. Matter nothing having to 1239 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:28,599 Speaker 2: do at all with things that would actually provide, value create. 1240 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,759 Speaker 2: Value nothing having to do with actually doing your job. 1241 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 2: Matters that's what we're. Seeing that's where we're. At and you, 1242 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:46,879 Speaker 2: know going back To Speaker, johnson let's remember Where Chuck schumer, 1243 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Was as he reminds, us let's remember Where Chuck schumer 1244 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 2: is on these continuing resolutions throughout. 1245 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,799 Speaker 12: History YESTERDAY i read you an exerpt For President obama's 1246 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 12: speech during the twenty thirteen shutdown when he advocated for 1247 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,799 Speaker 12: a clean saor to reopen the government and resume. 1248 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,680 Speaker 3: Negotiations it sounded very. 1249 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,799 Speaker 12: Familiar democrats cheered him on back, then Including Chuck. Schumer 1250 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 12: he himself said Some republicans' refusal to support a clean 1251 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,600 Speaker 12: cr back then was quote the politics of. 1252 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 3: Idiocy take him at his. 1253 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,600 Speaker 12: Work so yesterday he, decided we, decided we decided to 1254 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 12: do a little count of the number of times That 1255 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 12: Chuck schumer has supported continuing resolutions just since he became 1256 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 12: the leader of The democrats And senate in twenty. Seventeen 1257 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 12: that number came out to twenty nine out of thirty continued. 1258 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:41,280 Speaker 12: Resolutions how many times he wholeheartedly enthusiastically supported crs enacted 1259 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 12: in the. Law that's a ninety seven percent support. Rate what's, changed, 1260 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 12: well this time his job. 1261 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:48,680 Speaker 6: Is on the. 1262 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 12: Line and we've explained this very, clearly because everybody can 1263 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 12: see the obvious political motivation here behind his decision to 1264 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 12: shut the government. Down right, now he helped us a 1265 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:02,080 Speaker 12: shutdown In, march doing the right thing and supporting virtually 1266 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 12: the identically same continuing cr they were offering, today and 1267 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 12: his radical base went, crazy and they haven't forgiven him for. 1268 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,960 Speaker 3: It that's Why Chuck schumer is opposed to it. Today 1269 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 3: that's what. 1270 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 12: Changed it's very obvious this government shutdown is plainly and 1271 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 12: simply an exercise in image. Rehabilitation this is an attempt 1272 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:28,439 Speaker 12: at image rehabilitation For Chuck schumer so selfishly completely about. 1273 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,559 Speaker 12: Himself he is shutting the government down to hurt other. 1274 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,400 Speaker 12: People he needs to show a fight Against President trump 1275 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,519 Speaker 12: so he can keep his base happy through the next election. 1276 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 12: Cycle how do we know, That, well his record shows 1277 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 12: the obvious truth about. 1278 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:41,560 Speaker 3: It, again look at the. 1279 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 12: Numbers Chuck schumer supported crs to help avert a government 1280 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 12: shut down twenty nine out of thirty times as leader 1281 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 12: of his, party and he emphatically supported every SINGLE cr 1282 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:55,640 Speaker 12: enacted into the law since twenty seventeen except for. One of, 1283 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,599 Speaker 12: course you won't have to do much research to figure 1284 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 12: out who was in The. 1285 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 3: White house during that. Time if you Said Donald, trump 1286 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 3: you'd be. Right and it doesn't take a. 1287 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,599 Speaker 12: Genius to see that's exactly the same reason why he's 1288 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 12: doing this causing these antics. 1289 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 2: Today so we clearly say that what we were just 1290 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:18,080 Speaker 2: discussing about Why democrats engage in this is absolutely. Accurate 1291 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:24,799 Speaker 2: anything for the, obfuscation anything to, denigrate anything to destroy 1292 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 2: the political, opponent anything that is Anti trump is. Good 1293 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 2: how many more ways must they show you? THIS i 1294 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 2: don't even know if it's possible to show you this 1295 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:38,720 Speaker 2: in any more. 1296 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Ways i'd be. 1297 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,599 Speaker 2: Stunned if it. Is they're telling you that they don't. 1298 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 2: Care they're telling you that the workings of the government 1299 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 2: is completely and totally, inconsequential, meaningless letting you know they 1300 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:05,559 Speaker 2: want to, hurt they want, pain they want. Destruction that 1301 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 2: to them is victory Utilizing Chuck schumer's own words against, 1302 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 2: him showing what kind offfeckless leader he is showing, that you, 1303 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,760 Speaker 2: know just like we're talking about with this town hall 1304 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 2: they're going to do ON cnn announcing that On, friday 1305 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 2: you knew that the shutdown was going to extend five more. 1306 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 3: Days, well of course you. Did you want, it you 1307 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 3: want the. Pain so now that we know, that what 1308 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 3: is our? Plan so let me give three things. Here, 1309 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 3: first absolute support to the idea of The house not 1310 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,400 Speaker 3: returning until The senators vote for on this continuing. 1311 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 2: Resolution Number, two an absolute willingness to call if your 1312 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,280 Speaker 2: senator is A, democrat saying what are you? Doing go 1313 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 2: vote for this continuing, resolution then go fight for what 1314 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 2: it is that you. Want you might, get it might, 1315 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,719 Speaker 2: not but people are suffering because of your power. 1316 01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:09,479 Speaker 3: Play that's being a proactive voter is extremely. Important Number. 1317 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 3: Three remembering this is who they. 1318 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 2: Are and if you think this ends When trump is 1319 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 2: out of, office with all due, respect that's. Nuts this doesn't. 1320 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:25,839 Speaker 2: End this is who they. Are this is the new status. 1321 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Quo doesn't matter what they said. Yesterday the hardcore left is. 1322 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,720 Speaker 2: Progressive it doesn't matter yesterday what they said, today, right 1323 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,280 Speaker 2: what they said yesterday will have no bearing on what 1324 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 2: they say, today and what they say today. 1325 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 3: Will have no bearing on what they say or. 1326 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Do, tomorrow anything for what they perceive as the victory 1327 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 2: of the. Moment the midterms are twenty twenty, six and 1328 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,080 Speaker 2: none of these people can have. Power you going out to, vote, 1329 01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,759 Speaker 2: you bringing people out to, vote, you convincing people to, vote, 1330 01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 2: you persuading people to, vote and continuing to do. So 1331 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 2: now you say to, Me, tony it seems like the basic. Stuff, 1332 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,120 Speaker 2: yes the problem is we're not always great at executing 1333 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,680 Speaker 2: on the basic. Stuff we've got the right, argument but 1334 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 2: we don't execute on the basic. Stuff we need to do. 1335 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 2: That these people can't have. Power let's make sure they 1336 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: don't have. It that's the lesson. Here I'm Tony. Katz 1337 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 2: this Is Tony katz. 1338 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 3: TODAY i mean discussing the level of people upset with 1339 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,240 Speaker 3: hostages being returned and a potential peace, deal WHICH i. 1340 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,479 Speaker 2: AGREE i don't know how you're gonna make it all. 1341 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 2: WORK i don't know you have how you have peace with, 1342 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 2: terrorists which is to say you, don't and it would 1343 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,759 Speaker 2: be irrational to think. Otherwise Tony, Katz Tony katz, Today 1344 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 2: great to be with. You but There's President trump In 1345 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 2: egypt and all these world leaders are there and everybody's, 1346 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 2: signing and they're gonna be part of this, deal and 1347 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:57,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna put money into Uh, gaza and they're gonna 1348 01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,599 Speaker 2: they're gonna build, it not rebuild, it As trump, said build. 1349 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 3: It AND i know there was The Steve bannon. 1350 01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,200 Speaker 2: Conversation of this is a really bad loss For benjamin 1351 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,680 Speaker 2: Et yahoo because now it's a two state, solution he 1352 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 2: can't do anything about. It and people are, like, dude 1353 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 2: you're being just silly Here Excep gorka and a bunch 1354 01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 2: of other, people and man's, like, nope it is what it. 1355 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,599 Speaker 2: Is the fundamental flaw always with a two state solution 1356 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 2: is that you cannot engage with, terrorists. Right they don't 1357 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 2: want peace at, All they want to destroy. You so 1358 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,720 Speaker 2: this idea of a two state solution is a leftist 1359 01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,600 Speaker 2: fantasy as opposed to anything that is. 1360 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,560 Speaker 3: Reality if you are going. 1361 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 2: To Rebuild gaza utilizing all this international, money you, COULD 1362 01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,880 Speaker 2: i guess if you squint and look at it the right, 1363 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,559 Speaker 2: way think of it as a two state. Solution the 1364 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,560 Speaker 2: point is we haven't figured out whether or Not gaza 1365 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 2: will end up being The, strip will be a state 1366 01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:59,600 Speaker 2: of any, kind because of what it seems to be 1367 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:04,120 Speaker 2: is an international enclave filled with a lot of foreign, 1368 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:10,080 Speaker 2: dollars all predicated on the idea of building financial. 1369 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Opportunities and, oh. 1370 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,520 Speaker 2: By the, way Some palestinians live here and their, value. 1371 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,440 Speaker 3: Their their their the value of their, lives. 1372 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,080 Speaker 2: That the the enjoyment of their lives is going to 1373 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,800 Speaker 2: increase exponentially because we've got so much investment going. 1374 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,080 Speaker 3: On we're not gonna Let hamas do. Anything what he 1375 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:26,519 Speaker 3: out of your. 1376 01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 2: Mind we're gonna crush these. People you think The israelis did, 1377 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,840 Speaker 2: anything watch what we do To. Hamas this is a 1378 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,559 Speaker 2: very very bad move For. Iran one could argue a 1379 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,800 Speaker 2: very interesting move for, capitalism but the idea that it's 1380 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:43,639 Speaker 2: a bad move For Netan. 1381 01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,120 Speaker 3: YAHOO i thought that was A i thought that was 1382 01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,000 Speaker 3: a weird take From Steve. 1383 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,640 Speaker 2: Bennon but it's also one of those takes where you 1384 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 2: have these people who Hate Netan yahoo and really Hate, 1385 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 2: israel and so everything has to be filtered through this 1386 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 2: this tunnel by which they connect with their, base which 1387 01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:04,880 Speaker 2: goes to all these people who are upset that a 1388 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 2: peace deals even. HAPPENED cnn wrote a headline hostages are 1389 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 2: said to be Released, monday with hundreds of Palist indian 1390 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,640 Speaker 2: prisoners also do to be freed As trump departs for 1391 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,679 Speaker 2: The Middle. East and there's a guys that, writing why 1392 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,799 Speaker 2: Are israelis hostages But palstadians are prisoners because The israelis 1393 01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,320 Speaker 2: were taken hostage and the prisoners Are palistenians who. 1394 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:25,639 Speaker 3: Tried to Kill. 1395 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,639 Speaker 2: Israelis it's proper reporting that's the part that preach out 1396 01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 2: FROM cnn that they're unhappy with. 1397 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 3: It they're unhappy with. 1398 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,840 Speaker 2: Peace you know, it you see, it and you know 1399 01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:42,120 Speaker 2: why peace was never the, goal never. Once keep it 1400 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 2: here On Tony. Cats There's Tony cats. Today find everything 1401 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:53,080 Speaker 2: at tonycats dot. Com SO i have got the dow, 1402 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,880 Speaker 2: down But i've got gold, up But i've got oil, 1403 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,639 Speaker 2: down But i've got silver. Up AND i have got 1404 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 2: people make AN ai chain because WITHOUT ai it doesn't 1405 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:06,040 Speaker 2: seem we have an. Economy and with, That i've decided 1406 01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,759 Speaker 2: to drink all of the Bourbon Tony Katz Tony kats. 1407 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,879 Speaker 2: Today good to be with you laughing in the background 1408 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:16,640 Speaker 2: as Doctor Matt, well economist at The university Of. INDIANAPOLIS 1409 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 2: i caught him while he's in between two different. 1410 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 3: Spots BUT i appreciate you taking the, time. 1411 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,559 Speaker 2: Sir i'm trying to do this math where the market 1412 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,240 Speaker 2: is down even though it was up big, yesterday but 1413 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 2: gold is up and oil prices are. Down walk me 1414 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,280 Speaker 2: through what it is that you think we are seeing right. 1415 01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 13: Now it's pretty actually pretty easy to. Explain gold is 1416 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 13: a safe. Haven this is where people go whenever they are. 1417 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 13: Nervous about the, economy and there's a lot of nervousness 1418 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 13: to be done right. Now china just increase their tariff, 1419 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,759 Speaker 13: retaliation so you, Know trump's going to retaliate even. More 1420 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,840 Speaker 13: and the government's still shut. Down so that's causing a 1421 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,800 Speaker 13: problem the. Tariffs you, KNOW i know people can't get 1422 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,160 Speaker 13: mad at me for talking about, this but the tariffs 1423 01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 13: are causing a lot of these problems because the tariffs 1424 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,720 Speaker 13: are causing a weaker, dollar and the gold is not 1425 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,400 Speaker 13: the reserve currency in the, world but it's catching up 1426 01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:14,240 Speaker 13: to the reserve, currency which is the. Dollar because people are, saying, 1427 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 13: oh the dollars a getting, weaker the dollars not as. 1428 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,000 Speaker 13: Strong where DO i? Go so they're going into, gold 1429 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,919 Speaker 13: and this is not a good. Thing it's mostly paraff 1430 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,720 Speaker 13: related and there's some. Shutdowns let's not for. You there's 1431 01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 13: some shutdown ramifications's going on here as. Well and so 1432 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,960 Speaker 13: all of this bad news, says where DO i go 1433 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,680 Speaker 13: to protect myself and be? Safe the answer is? 1434 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 2: Gold so what is it that we are being safe 1435 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,040 Speaker 2: from in this gold? 1436 01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:40,879 Speaker 3: Investment and for the full. 1437 01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:45,080 Speaker 2: DISCLOSURE i may have some, GOLD i don't wrap any gold. 1438 01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 3: COMPANIES i don't have any gold. 1439 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,760 Speaker 2: Connection i've never asked Doctor, willard and if he, Does 1440 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 2: i'm just taking a look at where these numbers are. 1441 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,599 Speaker 2: Going Right at over forty one hundred dollars an ounce on, 1442 01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,559 Speaker 2: gold record, highs wherever fifty dollars an ounce on, silver 1443 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 2: we're in those highs there as. Well that's why the 1444 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,320 Speaker 2: question gets. Asked there is no gold group THAT i 1445 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,759 Speaker 2: work with or anything else That i'm pushing anybody. 1446 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 3: TO i want to be clear about. That you go 1447 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,679 Speaker 3: with your, thoughts, sir well and awfully. 1448 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 13: DISCLOSE i do not have gold stocks, either And i've 1449 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 13: never in my life invested in gold BECAUSE i am 1450 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,519 Speaker 13: always an. OPTIMIST i know it doesn't sound like it's 1451 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,800 Speaker 13: on the phone all the time or on the calls 1452 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,600 Speaker 13: that we, make BUT i am an optimist that the 1453 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,439 Speaker 13: economy is going to grow long, term SO i want 1454 01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,840 Speaker 13: to be in the. Economy gold is where people go 1455 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 13: when they're afraid that the economy is going. South over the, 1456 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 13: centuries And i'm talking, Centuries, tony you know we're talking 1457 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 13: thousands of. Years gold has always held its. Value it's 1458 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,160 Speaker 13: gone up consistently over. Time it is the place that 1459 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,639 Speaker 13: you go to park your money until things get normal 1460 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 13: and things aren't. Normal you know you mentioned the price 1461 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 13: of oil. Dropping, well oil drops for two. Reasons, one 1462 01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,120 Speaker 13: there's a huge, supply which has already happened Under. Trump 1463 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 13: but also there's a smaller, demand and that's we see THE. 1464 01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:06,639 Speaker 13: Imf THE imf today and yesterday started releasing data saying global. 1465 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:11,919 Speaker 13: Recession global recession means less demand for, oil which means prices. 1466 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 13: Drop so oil prices are dropping because of weak. Demand 1467 01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 13: we See china retaliating terrors are slowing down the. Economy 1468 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 13: the government still shut. Down. Crypto crypto started. Falling why 1469 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,320 Speaker 13: because crypto. 1470 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,120 Speaker 2: Is not like, Gold it's not a Safe wait a, 1471 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:32,320 Speaker 2: Second crypto didn't start, Falling crypto crapped the. Bed there's 1472 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:36,639 Speaker 2: a there's a difference between those two things right. There 1473 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:41,639 Speaker 2: that was very rough what took place late last, week 1474 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,920 Speaker 2: and that the reason for that is people were going into. 1475 01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,120 Speaker 2: Gold or did people go into gold because that. 1476 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,400 Speaker 3: Happened, no it's. 1477 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,439 Speaker 13: Not that they went into. Gold they went away from. 1478 01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,320 Speaker 13: Crypto because crypto is not a safe. Haven people in 1479 01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,320 Speaker 13: the crypto industry were trying to convince all of us 1480 01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,679 Speaker 13: that it's the next goal is the next safe. Haven 1481 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,200 Speaker 13: the Opposite crypto is a thing that goes up when 1482 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,080 Speaker 13: we're in boom, times and when we're in bad, times 1483 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 13: you have to run away from it because there's nothing behind. 1484 01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 13: It there's no, income there's no. Assets it's pure. Speculations 1485 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:15,439 Speaker 13: so guess, what when the economy is, tanking people are 1486 01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,479 Speaker 13: going to run away from it because pure. Speculation and 1487 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,080 Speaker 13: that's what you saw. Happening it's an indicator of bad. 1488 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,880 Speaker 13: Things and so when people dumped it and you know 1489 01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,240 Speaker 13: to you to hear a phrase when they crafted this last, 1490 01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 13: week that's just not a good sign of things coming 1491 01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:29,600 Speaker 13: in the. 1492 01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,559 Speaker 2: Future talking to Doctor Matt, will economists at The university Of, 1493 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 2: indianapolis let's dig in a little bit to what we're 1494 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:41,880 Speaker 2: seeing in the market and specifically THESE ai. Investments the 1495 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 2: story today was about, chips specifically that you're seeing. 1496 01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 3: An order OF amd chips. 1497 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,640 Speaker 2: And then a number of like fifty thousand That oracle 1498 01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,120 Speaker 2: is going to be releasing out in the. World so 1499 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:05,200 Speaker 2: you've Got nvidia making, Chips you've GOT amd making. Chips 1500 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,800 Speaker 2: it makes one wonder why The United states has any 1501 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 2: investment Into intel. Whatsoever if they can't keep up and 1502 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,960 Speaker 2: make these, deals let them go out of. Business there's 1503 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,639 Speaker 2: no such thing as too big to. Fail but that's 1504 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,600 Speaker 2: the Argument i'm, making or the Point i'm trying to, 1505 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:24,600 Speaker 2: make is that this is again all ABOUT. Ai is 1506 01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,120 Speaker 2: this market that we're seeing a healthy? Market or if 1507 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,400 Speaker 2: ONE ai company goes, bust does everything else go bust 1508 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:31,840 Speaker 2: along with? 1509 01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,920 Speaker 13: It, Okay first of, ALL i don't think ANY ai, 1510 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,479 Speaker 13: company not ANY i don't think THE ai industry is 1511 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 13: going to go. BUST i think it's. Legit it's here to, 1512 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,200 Speaker 13: stay and it's going to get bigger and bigger and. 1513 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,439 Speaker 13: Bigger so people should not worry THAT ai is a. 1514 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:48,120 Speaker 13: Bubble it is not a. Bubble it's actually producing. Profits 1515 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,439 Speaker 13: as far AS ai driving the, economy, yes we've talked 1516 01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 13: about it on your show two years. Ago the mag 1517 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 13: seven accounts for the entire gain of THE s AND 1518 01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,200 Speaker 13: p five. Hundred last, year that grew a little, bit 1519 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,519 Speaker 13: but you're talking, basically the top twenty thirty companies in 1520 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:09,120 Speaker 13: THE smp drove the entire gain in the. Market, yes 1521 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:13,080 Speaker 13: it is AN ai driven. Economy and you, KNOW i 1522 01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,640 Speaker 13: Like trump in many, areas BUT i got to tell 1523 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,200 Speaker 13: you he needs to go and kiss the butt of 1524 01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 13: THE ai industry because his terrorist would be taking this 1525 01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,719 Speaker 13: entire economy if it weren't FOR. AI ai is saving 1526 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,200 Speaker 13: his butt and it's saving all of. 1527 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 2: Us it's saving all of us bothers. ME i see 1528 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 2: that as a massive. Problem is it that no other 1529 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:38,080 Speaker 2: industry is getting the investment BECAUSE ai is sucking all 1530 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 2: the dollars out of the? 1531 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,559 Speaker 3: Room or do all the other businesses just? 1532 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:46,439 Speaker 13: Suck i'm gonna go with the second one IF i can. 1533 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:46,960 Speaker 3: Have one that's not. 1534 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 13: Good suck for two tony that is not a. 1535 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,519 Speaker 3: Good, sign. Sir that's a real. 1536 01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:58,160 Speaker 13: Problem it is a real. Problem but okay, again, No 1537 01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:59,960 Speaker 13: i'm going to take that. Back it's not a real. 1538 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,479 Speaker 13: Problem and you shouldn't be nervous about AN. Ai were 1539 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,280 Speaker 13: we nervous when The internet came into existence back When 1540 01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 13: Al gore invented it in the, Eighties of course we. 1541 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 13: Weren't we knew we were. Nervous but isn't it? Great 1542 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,240 Speaker 13: it created incredible wealth for this. World you, know when 1543 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,799 Speaker 13: the internal combustion engine came around in the beginning of 1544 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,880 Speaker 13: the nineteenth century or the twentieth, century were we nervous about? 1545 01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,240 Speaker 13: That yes we, Were but guess what the horse and 1546 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:27,439 Speaker 13: buggy industry it's. Gone thank, goodness the internal combustion and 1547 01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:32,200 Speaker 13: engen has created tremendous wealth in, planes, automobiles trains you 1548 01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 13: named across the. Board, no don't be worried about. It 1549 01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 13: THIS ai is not a bad. Thing it's a good. 1550 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,600 Speaker 13: Thing and we could spend, HOURS i could give you. 1551 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,120 Speaker 13: EXAMPLES i met with people this week who are USING 1552 01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:47,000 Speaker 13: ai to incredible. Benefit SO i think you should not 1553 01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 13: be worried ABOUT ai driving the. Economy it's. 1554 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 2: Legit talking to Doctor Matt, well economist at The university Of, 1555 01:38:55,200 --> 01:39:01,400 Speaker 2: indianapolis we're seeing oil prices go down in the. 1556 01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:01,920 Speaker 3: Sites THAT i look. 1557 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,479 Speaker 2: AT i see The West texas crud which comes out 1558 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,080 Speaker 2: of the ground that's at fifty eight. 1559 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,760 Speaker 3: Dollars a, barrel, right maybe so a little bit. 1560 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:14,479 Speaker 2: Over and we're Seeing brent crude that's coming in just 1561 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,559 Speaker 2: over sixty two dollars a. 1562 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:20,040 Speaker 3: Barrel in both those, cases that's lower than it has 1563 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:21,960 Speaker 3: been we really have been in the. 1564 01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,759 Speaker 2: Sixties and we settle around that mid sixties, area sixty 1565 01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,599 Speaker 2: three dollars a barrel for The West texas crude sixty 1566 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 2: six sixty, seven sixty eight dollars a barrel on The brent's. 1567 01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 2: Crude this is coming down a. Bit is this a 1568 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,719 Speaker 2: usage conversation or something else going? 1569 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:44,360 Speaker 13: On it's both THE, iea The International Energy, Agency they 1570 01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:50,360 Speaker 13: have forecasted substantial increases in surpluses. GLOBALLY opek is increasing their. 1571 01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:55,720 Speaker 13: Production trump created peace in The Middle. East this is 1572 01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,160 Speaker 13: the opposite of The Gulf. War he created peace in 1573 01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,200 Speaker 13: The Middle. East their right mind would have thought that 1574 01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 13: would have. Happened and guess. What that's going to increase 1575 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:07,080 Speaker 13: the flow of, oil oil. Production Even iran is probably 1576 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,120 Speaker 13: going to get away with producing more. Oil and then 1577 01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,200 Speaker 13: we had weak. Demand like we've been talking, about the, 1578 01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:14,640 Speaker 13: tariffs the wars that he That trump is initiating on 1579 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,919 Speaker 13: the economic. Front these combinations are increasing supply and decreasing. 1580 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 13: Demand that's exactly what you're. Seeing it's basically a geopolitical. 1581 01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:26,439 Speaker 2: Game but we also, see as you mentioned, tariffs which 1582 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 2: is the only thing we haven't gotten. Into you Had 1583 01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,799 Speaker 2: china tightened controls on rarest. Minerals you Had trump, say. 1584 01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 3: Well if you're going to do, that what in the 1585 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,760 Speaker 3: world are we meeting for In. Seoul then you had 1586 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:39,880 Speaker 3: an increase in tariffs by one hundred. 1587 01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,320 Speaker 2: Percent then you Had china, say who in the world 1588 01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,840 Speaker 2: are you and engage some other, maneuvers which Led trump to, say, 1589 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,720 Speaker 2: hey she just made a. Mistake jijenping just made a 1590 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,080 Speaker 2: little boo, boo a little. Error it'll all be, Fine 1591 01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,400 Speaker 2: it'll it'll be. Good and yet here we are with rising. 1592 01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 2: Tariffs you keep arguing that the tariffs are a. MISTAKE 1593 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,960 Speaker 2: i am not a fan of the, tariffs but we 1594 01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,560 Speaker 2: look at the tariffs differently when we're talking about In 1595 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,720 Speaker 2: china than when we're talking about the rest of the. 1596 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,639 Speaker 2: World so break it down into its two component. Parts 1597 01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:16,880 Speaker 2: should we be tariffing In china and as a one 1598 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 2: hundred percent tariff in addition to what we already? 1599 01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,040 Speaker 3: Got is that the? 1600 01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,519 Speaker 13: Answer, Okay i'm going to go back to what you've 1601 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,559 Speaker 13: been saying for years tactic versus, policy, Right AND i 1602 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 13: think That trump is extremely inconsistent in how he's applying 1603 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,240 Speaker 13: tariffs To. China at the, beginning he told us it 1604 01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,639 Speaker 13: was all About, sentinel it was all About South China, 1605 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,439 Speaker 13: sea it was all about national. Security and then it's, like, 1606 01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 13: oh we can make a deal With, china they can 1607 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,519 Speaker 13: be our. Friend, well which is? IT i personally believe 1608 01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,559 Speaker 13: from an economic, standpoint they're, terrible BUT i think from 1609 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,280 Speaker 13: a geopolitical, standpoint they're good For, china AND i think 1610 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,519 Speaker 13: we need to stick with The let's Get china out 1611 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,960 Speaker 13: of the rare earth, Business let's get out of us 1612 01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,080 Speaker 13: being dependent On china for, drones change our approach To. 1613 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 13: China they are the? Enemy why Can't why Does? Trump 1614 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,320 Speaker 13: sometimes they're his friend and sometimes there's. ENEMY i Think 1615 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,800 Speaker 13: paris to use as a weapon Against china is. Appropriate it's. 1616 01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,400 Speaker 13: Bad it will hurt. Us you AND i will. Suffer 1617 01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,479 Speaker 13: but guess what happens in a? War people? 1618 01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:19,720 Speaker 3: Suffer how long does the suffering go? 1619 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:20,040 Speaker 6: On? 1620 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:24,400 Speaker 3: Meaning is there a change in policy that A Scott. 1621 01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 2: Beasts in The Treasury secretary Or kevin hasseen The White 1622 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 2: House Economic council that someone could bring to the table 1623 01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:34,200 Speaker 2: That trump would, engage or is this the new reality 1624 01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,200 Speaker 2: and it's the new reality for at least three more? 1625 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 13: Years, okay it can, End BUT i don't know if 1626 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,800 Speaker 13: we have the political will to do. It of all 1627 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,000 Speaker 13: the people in history who have a political will to do, 1628 01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,960 Speaker 13: It trump probably. Does and here it, is we actually 1629 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,360 Speaker 13: have the ability to produce rare earth minerals in this, 1630 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 13: country but we haven't, done so we haven't mind them 1631 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 13: and produced them Because china has been subsidizing this. Industry 1632 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,280 Speaker 13: they've been undercutting the prices and making it unaffordable for 1633 01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,400 Speaker 13: us to buy and produce our own rare earth. Minerals 1634 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:08,120 Speaker 13: why because of environmental. Restrictions the environmental restrictions in this 1635 01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,840 Speaker 13: country have prevented us from dominating the world in this. 1636 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,840 Speaker 13: Industry trumping to get on this, Issue jump on it 1637 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,680 Speaker 13: immediately and say get rid of THE. Epa relative to 1638 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:20,040 Speaker 13: rare earth, Minerals we're going to be the world. PRODUCER 1639 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 13: i think he can do. It he has a political, 1640 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 13: will but he needs to focus on it and stop 1641 01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:25,360 Speaker 13: trying to cut a deal With. 1642 01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 2: China that's A Lee zelden conversation for. Sure who runs THE, 1643 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 2: Epa Doctor, mattwell economists at The university Of. Indianapolis Dr 1644 01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,600 Speaker 2: matt will on The TWITTER x follow him. THERE i 1645 01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to be with. Us find 1646 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,719 Speaker 2: EVERYTHING i do over at tonykatz dot. Com, subscribe, download 1647 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 2: do all the, things get that done, immediately keep it. 1648 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,479 Speaker 2: Here this Is Tony katz today In. 1649 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:51,880 Speaker 3: Indiana there's a. 1650 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:56,519 Speaker 2: Big conversation about redistricting And republicans here are not one 1651 01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:58,040 Speaker 2: hundred percent sure if they want to do, it And 1652 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:02,479 Speaker 2: republicans here are. Wrong Tony, Katz Tony kats, today great 1653 01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,760 Speaker 2: to be with. You there are Some republicans who have 1654 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:06,600 Speaker 2: come out and, said we're not going to. Redistrict we 1655 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:10,840 Speaker 2: have Seven republican districts out of nine. Possible we're. 1656 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,960 Speaker 3: Good we're not going to do this because of pressure 1657 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:13,479 Speaker 3: from The White. 1658 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 2: House Jd, Vance Vice president has been In indiana twice 1659 01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,479 Speaker 2: to discuss this. Subject and of course the left is 1660 01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,920 Speaker 2: all about you're trying to steal. Elections the left can 1661 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 2: scream all they want and don't. Care redistricting is a 1662 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 2: conversation Because texas decided to do something for the state Of, 1663 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,840 Speaker 2: texas and the people who don't like it In texas 1664 01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:36,599 Speaker 2: can vote out their state. Legislators california responded by, saying 1665 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,400 Speaker 2: we don't like what you, Do, texas so we're now 1666 01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,920 Speaker 2: going to change our congressional districts because of what you. 1667 01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,439 Speaker 3: Did so they're engaged in an act of. 1668 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:52,280 Speaker 2: Retribution and Now Barack obama has come out to, say Redistrict, California. 1669 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,880 Speaker 15: California the whole nation is counting on. You democracy is on. 1670 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 15: Ballot november, Fourth republicans want to steal enough seats In 1671 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:03,080 Speaker 15: congress to rig the next, election and we'll unchecked power. 1672 01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:03,439 Speaker 3: For two more. 1673 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 15: Years With prop, fifty you can Stop republicans in their. 1674 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:11,200 Speaker 15: Tracks prop fifty puts our elections back on a level playing, 1675 01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:15,200 Speaker 15: field preserves independent redistricting over the long, term and lets 1676 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:19,240 Speaker 15: the people decide return your ballot. Today oh, Yes i'm. 1677 01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:23,479 Speaker 3: Fifty and this is Why indiana and needs to. 1678 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,680 Speaker 2: Redistrict what is he talking? About preserves independent? Redistricting you 1679 01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 2: mean those those kind of groups that decide whether or 1680 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,320 Speaker 2: not you can change the. District their job is to 1681 01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:37,800 Speaker 2: draw the. Districts, no the left already redistricted to their 1682 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,400 Speaker 2: benefit and then put these groups in place to keep their. 1683 01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:45,519 Speaker 2: Advantage the left is, saying it's okay when we do. 1684 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,360 Speaker 2: It how dare you do it when you're on the political. 1685 01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:51,200 Speaker 2: Right and the answer Is indiana should redistrict. Now and 1686 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,799 Speaker 2: The republicans in the state Of indiana who don't understand 1687 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 2: this are. 1688 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:59,280 Speaker 3: Wrong listen to, Me you are. Wrong redistrict. Now look 1689 01:45:59,280 --> 01:45:59,959 Speaker 3: What california. 1690 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:04,320 Speaker 2: Doing Other democratic states that have Any republican in The 1691 01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,920 Speaker 2: house are going to do. This and you say to, 1692 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,160 Speaker 2: Me Tony this is pretty ugly. Stuff, first this is 1693 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 2: a political. Process it's all ugly. Stuff another General. Assembly let's, 1694 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,840 Speaker 2: say if you were to have More, democrats it was 1695 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:18,960 Speaker 2: A democrat led general. 1696 01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:20,240 Speaker 3: Assembly picker. 1697 01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:23,960 Speaker 2: State they can redistrict, too because you can redistrict anytime you. 1698 01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:29,040 Speaker 2: Want but it's about winning, elections those elections having consequences 1699 01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:29,519 Speaker 2: and making. 1700 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:34,320 Speaker 3: Changes not BECAUSE i started this. Fight texas did. 1701 01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 2: Something texas engaged in a legal political process Where texans can, 1702 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:45,800 Speaker 2: decide And california decided let's go change our districts to 1703 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,600 Speaker 2: screw them over and to go on the. Attack so 1704 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,759 Speaker 2: now that people are A republican know they're under, attack 1705 01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:57,000 Speaker 2: what's their plan take? It i'm, SORRY i thought this 1706 01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,439 Speaker 2: was the era of fighting. Back because if you're just 1707 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 2: going to sit, BACK i can take. It Bill, Crystal, 1708 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,840 Speaker 2: okay you'll be Like Bill, crystal we need to. Redistrict 1709 01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,280 Speaker 2: now find everything At Tony katz dot. 1710 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,960 Speaker 3: Com your state. Too, tomorrow everyone take ca