WEBVTT - Patreon Voted: The Hateful Eight (10th Anniversary)

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five was loaded with ups and downs in

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<v Speaker 1>both film and television.

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<v Speaker 2>On January eleventh, at.

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<v Speaker 1>Two pm the FPS Cast, we'll reveal their top ten

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<v Speaker 1>films and TV shows of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Live on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Patreons within the Director's Cut tier will also have the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to provide their top fives to be played live

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Be sure to come and check us

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<v Speaker 1>out and share your commentary asks, the CRUL questions, and

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<v Speaker 2>In the show again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's January eleventh at two pm Eastern Standard Time on

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<v Speaker 1>our YouTube channel YouTube dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast. Thank you

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<v Speaker 4>guys for joining us for an anniversary review of The

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<v Speaker 4>Hateful Eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Quin Tarantino film. This is a ten year tenure. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's ten ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me make sure. I'll double check while you open up.

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<v Speaker 4>While you're checking, I am joined by the voice you

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<v Speaker 4>just heard.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Ron? What up?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Ken?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Mike?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So' Quin Tarantino film, You're right, came out in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 4>said a few years after the Civil War, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>about a bounty hunter named John Hayman. Ruth rod Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think about Hateful Late?

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<v Speaker 5>It's good. I'm a Quentin Tarantino fan. There's no surprise here.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I'm one of the few, if not only,

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<v Speaker 5>Quentin Tarantino fans on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I like the way he produces his films, like like,

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<v Speaker 5>I like his storytelling ability.

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<v Speaker 2>Just yeah, the way he directs, I really like his style.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken a filmmaker, Kim, what do you think about this film?

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<v Speaker 3>I hate this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Really why?

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<v Speaker 3>I hated every single minute I spent watching this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, hateful hate, hated hate for eight What do you

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<v Speaker 4>hate about it? Do you like Tarantino with all?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, Tarantino. This is a guy that writes and

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<v Speaker 3>makes movies so he can just have the in word

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<v Speaker 3>in it. Throught the whole movie and that's all they

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<v Speaker 3>spent this whole movie doing. It was one scene where

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<v Speaker 3>they said the N word twelve times. It was I counted,

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<v Speaker 3>that's no, I counted, And that was That was in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the film. That was in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>when uh not ob what Mannets went to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>the old man because they probably didn't say it that much,

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<v Speaker 3>he said I And he said, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>in word. All I know is he's an in word

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<v Speaker 3>and that's and that's why I hate him, or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I'm like, bro, get this fuck, bro, I

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<v Speaker 3>hate I was like, I hate this.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie, Mike, what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Late?

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<v Speaker 1>I rarely agree with Kim this much. This movie is

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<v Speaker 1>fucking garbage, and I definitely do not like Quentin Tarantino

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<v Speaker 1>as a filmmaker, as a director, or as a human.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a fucking piece of shit. Jesus, and

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<v Speaker 1>this movie just reinforces everything I've ever felt about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen this movie, but I am saying right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not watching any more Quentin Tarantino films period.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing it. This is your first time see

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<v Speaker 1>this is my first time seeing this garbage ass film.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen you know Inglorious Bastards and pulp fiction and

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<v Speaker 1>Foxy Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I stopped. I was just like, this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>After Django, I'm good, I'm not watching any more.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie felt like he just wanted to say nigger.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie did not have to have nigger this much.

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<v Speaker 1>And the scene that Kim was talking about, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>exact scene where I was like, I'm fucking done. This

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<v Speaker 1>is pissing me off. They I don't know that nigger,

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<v Speaker 1>but all I know is he's a nigger.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, all right, man, come on, bro, all I'm done?

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<v Speaker 2>How fuck is this? What is this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all think it's like some like lust of his Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Quentin Tarantino gets a boner from saying nigger

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<v Speaker 1>or or having it in his films. He loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>He fucking loves it. And I will never understand black

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<v Speaker 1>folks obsession with this fucking asshole. I will never understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>You put a black man by himself in this fucking

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<v Speaker 1>faux western and you say nigger one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>times over the course of a two hour long, boring

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<v Speaker 1>ass nothing burger ass movie. Fuck this movie, and fuck

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<v Speaker 1>Quentin Tarantino.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I liked him more than I liked him, kid.

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<v Speaker 4>I will ride on this like it's one of my

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<v Speaker 4>favorite Taranty.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it is. I've never actually but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like jingle. I feel the same way with

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<v Speaker 2>you about jangle. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>This one I feel like, but because of the who

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<v Speaker 4>done an aspect of it, that's why I like the film.

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<v Speaker 4>So we open with John Ruth riding in a stage

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<v Speaker 4>coach with Daisy Dumark.

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<v Speaker 2>She's chained to his side.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you guys think about this open scene John

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<v Speaker 4>Ruth and Daisy and him being about one hundred anything

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<v Speaker 4>step out, jump out to y'all on this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as soon as he interested what he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>hold on, stop there, blackfellow, I'm like, bro, what why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's the time.

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<v Speaker 3>No see, y'all give me this every time I y'all

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<v Speaker 3>say that and bring up this the time thing. Bro,

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<v Speaker 3>this was excessive.

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<v Speaker 2>This was excessive.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think it was accessive?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it always in his movies?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the question I have for y'all everyone that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to defend this bullshit? Why is it always in his movies?

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<v Speaker 1>No matter if it's the old time, no matter if

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<v Speaker 1>it's nineteen seventy, no matter if it's nineteen ninety, it's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but nigger?

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<v Speaker 3>Why And as soon as the lady she was like, hi, nigger,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was like, oh, she's a whatever whatever fella like,

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<v Speaker 3>and she just kept doing it over and off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bruh.

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<v Speaker 3>And then on top of that, I can even take

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<v Speaker 3>and you can also say it's abusive to woman. He

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<v Speaker 3>kept beating the shit out of her over and over again,

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<v Speaker 3>like what the fuck? I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Agree with you guys?

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<v Speaker 4>In his obsession for the word I do one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 4>I think he hides behind the guise of I'm an artist,

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<v Speaker 4>so this is it's free for me to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to do this. I'm I'm just expressing my artistic you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying. I feel like that's how he

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<v Speaker 4>is with it, but I do I.

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<v Speaker 5>Guess my thing, Go ahead, I guess my thing is

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<v Speaker 5>is like the people that worked out, the black people

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<v Speaker 5>that work directly with him say this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even just him saying it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's what they're saying when they're questioned about it, like

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<v Speaker 5>how do you guys feel being in these movies that

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<v Speaker 5>where it's happening, And they're the ones that's like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>this is what they they understand the reasoning behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is coming directly from the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the filmmaking.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't think they're getting paid. You think they're

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<v Speaker 1>being paid to say that, period of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Against him. If he's giving him the biggest check he

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly get.

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<v Speaker 5>They could after they get the check, they can say

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<v Speaker 5>it afterwards. I mean, if after they get the check.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would they do that, because then they won't get

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<v Speaker 2>another film of his movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's most of them there you go, So how

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<v Speaker 5>many other black people are Again, we're talking about Samuel L.

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<v Speaker 5>Jackson for as I know, I feel like he stands

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<v Speaker 5>for things like work for Spike too.

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<v Speaker 3>We were Spike too, so.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't want to get into that conversation. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's just a different conversation. It was just you

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<v Speaker 5>always thought the conversation. That's why I said, let me

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<v Speaker 5>just pull it back, because we've had this conversation so

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<v Speaker 5>many times, and I know we're talking about this movie,

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<v Speaker 5>but I feel like that's always you'll criticism is just

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<v Speaker 5>the Nigga Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, I said, very clearly and very plainly. The

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<v Speaker 1>ship is boring and long, and it's a nothing burger film.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not just a lot of three hours of like

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<v Speaker 5>thing man a lot dollar his movies, some of the

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<v Speaker 5>most of his movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Are dialogue heavy, trash dialog, all of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the new sheriff in town. And you know, even

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<v Speaker 3>though there's his lack of believing. Man, it's was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But they just spent a lot of time just going back.

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<v Speaker 2>The setup is great, like like especially for like a

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<v Speaker 2>who Done It film? The set up was great.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking to the setup and the black character, y'all talking

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<v Speaker 4>about it's Major Marcus Warren, He joins the rite. First

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<v Speaker 4>impressions of Major Marcus, warning we all impressed his resume.

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<v Speaker 2>Samuel Jackson, who he said he was, I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was great in this.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought sam did a great job, and especially with

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<v Speaker 5>the way he did handle the word nigga, I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like he balanced it out calling them crackers and all

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<v Speaker 5>this other type of stuff, and just, uh, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Are y'all do y'all, we ain't gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as I heard, we ain't gonna be a counter.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a counter, Oh my god, dude, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a counter.

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<v Speaker 1>You never mind, I'm not gonna I know that defending

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<v Speaker 1>on offensive and I don't want to sound offensive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's like what I'm saying, it's it's a man, y'all,

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<v Speaker 5>y'all give y'all give the weirdest ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Grace but not what what? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Give me an example I have before? Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give me one, Now give one

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<v Speaker 1>rod exactly. Let's move on because you don't have killing

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<v Speaker 1>murders all that ship. That ship could be cool and

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<v Speaker 1>write up your alley.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, are you serious? See that's what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Throws out the most ridiculous comparison and then trying to go,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, you think watching something that is not real?

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<v Speaker 1>Watching a clown kill people is the same as watching

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<v Speaker 1>a film where someone's saying bigger time. You know who

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<v Speaker 1>else says that same exact defense white people. They do

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time. And I'm like, I don't listen

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<v Speaker 1>to racist music. Oh, but you're listening to Slayer talks

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<v Speaker 1>about Satan.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, bro, because it was like the hanging, you

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<v Speaker 3>already did it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't say I'm not going through your he did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like he respects and myers what Major was able

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<v Speaker 3>to do, but at the same time calls him a

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<v Speaker 3>nigger and refers to a nigga. It's like, bro, which

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<v Speaker 3>one is it? If you have that much respect for

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<v Speaker 3>a guy that you think has a letter from Abraham

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<v Speaker 3>Lincoln who freed the slaves. Why are you constantly even

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<v Speaker 3>said he said, you know, the blackies or darkies.

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<v Speaker 2>He called him dark.

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<v Speaker 4>I get what Mike and Kennison because he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>he's trying to portray it.

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<v Speaker 2>They just talked like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But even if they don't think they did, Tarantino,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did. It's satire. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>they did. You think they talked, yes, But my issue

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<v Speaker 1>is always, why is it in every single one of

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<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker's films, Every single film is the same ship

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<v Speaker 1>Niger Niger, nigger, nigg nigger, nigger, niggera every movie.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about this movie. No, No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>You might be.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about all of it. I'm talking about right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about all of his movies, and this plays.

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<v Speaker 5>In but we're not talking about You can't tell me

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<v Speaker 5>what I can talk about, and you're you're not to

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<v Speaker 5>go to the You made the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>I did this movie, the last one, and I tried.

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<v Speaker 4>Major Marcus warned produces a letter from the President Abraham Lincoln,

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<v Speaker 4>which seemed to soften the white character and made him

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<v Speaker 4>trusting more.

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<v Speaker 2>This went overwhelm for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Up, Yes it did, especially how it came back around later. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>let's saying set up was great with this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Set up was great.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think about the pulling out.

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<v Speaker 3>To still got it? Yeah? I still got it? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam did a good job. Sam did a good job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But every time he was called the nigga, he's

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<v Speaker 3>in the smiling anyway. I don't know why the hell Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be writing him like pimp pals. Yeah, like pimps

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But that's how good he was. He knew

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<v Speaker 2>he heard a major Marquis Warren and didn't do shit

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<v Speaker 2>for you. What about Sheriff Chris mannis when he came around,

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<v Speaker 2>did you like him?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I like none of these fucking people. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>none of these fucking people. This ship was garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like he was on some bullshit Chris Mann.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the loud mouthed Southern sheriff, openly disrespectful one, which

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<v Speaker 4>I think about his relationship and how he was looking

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<v Speaker 4>at Warren.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they did all of this throughout this whole

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<v Speaker 3>movie to get us to them at the end and

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<v Speaker 3>constantly being you know, an inn word hater and hating

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<v Speaker 3>black people all to get to the end. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he was an asshole. You know, he kept you know,

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<v Speaker 3>poking and prodding the general. He just didn't like him,

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<v Speaker 3>or the mayor whatever his name was. He didn't like

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<v Speaker 3>him at all, you know. And I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 3>was trustworthy. I didn't think he was like really going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the sheriff either. I thought it was a bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like John Run or whatever his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Was, like how you just kept pressing him, and he said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just politics. He was saying that it was politics

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>After he got called out, he said, oh, I ain't

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<v Speaker 3>mean to get into politics.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, you spit here, you don't call me.

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<v Speaker 3>A nigger five times, and now you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>get into politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a gun in his face. Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So the snowstorm gets worse and they gotta go to

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<v Speaker 4>many hair er dashers, the haberdashery whatever her name is.

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<v Speaker 4>They had to go to her house. They get there,

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<v Speaker 4>many as gone. So this is the setup for the

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<v Speaker 4>whole who done it thing? At this point in time,

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<v Speaker 4>is still nothing better for you much?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, all right, you weren't even curious

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<v Speaker 4>about what the fuck was gonna happen. I think that

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<v Speaker 4>was the what I like most about this movie. She's like, bro,

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<v Speaker 4>what is happening?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think, really, no, nothing was happening. I love

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<v Speaker 4>the set up up two people and they were hitting

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<v Speaker 4>in the town, and like, why would just right? Nothing

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<v Speaker 4>was happening. So you look at it like why just

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<v Speaker 4>even a movie? But then you get to the house

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, oh, okay something, so who done?

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<v Speaker 1>After I heard nigger thirty eight times, I didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck about anything else that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely was, was it. It's to the point where

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<v Speaker 3>I was watching it and I was complaining about the

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<v Speaker 3>movie and I was saying the reasons why, and my

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<v Speaker 3>wife was hearing it. She was in the kitchen cooking

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sitting there watching it, and he said, it's

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<v Speaker 3>so many times, so many, so much that she was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I hear exactly what you're saying. What you're talking about, like,

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<v Speaker 3>and she'll give more grace than I am, because maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I could be a little bit, you know, extra over

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<v Speaker 3>the top or whatever. But she was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I what you're saying what I do like about I

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<v Speaker 3>like Sam and Senior Bob's exchange in the thing where

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<v Speaker 3>they were doing the horses, and I liked when he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, are you is not like it? Let me

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<v Speaker 3>a liar? He was like, no, I'm not. He said

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<v Speaker 3>what he said. He said, I'm not calling you a liar,

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<v Speaker 3>say says, I sound like it. But I yet I

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<v Speaker 3>liked that line. I thought that was funny.

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<v Speaker 4>So you mentioned Bob, he was there, Oswaldo was there

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<v Speaker 4>the hang in the Red Rock, Joe was there at

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<v Speaker 4>the Quiet Cowboy in General Sandy Smithers, a former Confederate general.

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<v Speaker 4>None of these characters did anything for you, rod Ken, Mike, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>they a nice collection of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, Like I said, it was the mystique. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 5>You got a guy sitting in the bag, you got

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<v Speaker 5>a general just sitting here at the front in a chair.

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<v Speaker 5>You got the guy who was claiming to be the

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<v Speaker 5>hangman where they're on their way to town. So you

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<v Speaker 5>got all of these interactions, but still old boy was

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<v Speaker 5>still skeptical of like, Okay, well, who are y'all real?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying? So I thought that that

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<v Speaker 5>was good. He see, he seemed very intuitive, and I

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<v Speaker 5>liked that of Kurt Russell, right that. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>like I liked his character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so someone poisons to coffee. Two characters die.

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<v Speaker 3>Damn you jumped all the way.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I feel you know, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 5>was just gonna keep talking about him saying niggas.

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<v Speaker 3>But so I was anything characters because there is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of filler in this part. So I do agree

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<v Speaker 3>with you jumping to the other part. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>entirely disagree because it's like, what are we going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about with him? Just fact finding who all these

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<v Speaker 3>people were? Even the English guy trying to pretend like

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<v Speaker 3>he's a little bit better than everybody. Uh what did

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<v Speaker 3>he call him? He called him another word Nubian.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a levels.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really would have loved to hear like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it would have been interesting, like Sam Jackson's characters

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with the general because they were on opposing sides,

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<v Speaker 3>and how they would have had, like, you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>real dialogue, even though he was very clear that he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't like him because of who he was, but just

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<v Speaker 3>Sam fighting for But even Sam point I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you captured like ten fifteen Color commanders or whatever and

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<v Speaker 3>not on the made it back to camp, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so that could have been something interesting, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>they did with that, but even still kind of showing

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<v Speaker 3>that he had sort of respect for yeah, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>can I say I was on the battlefield with this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I said not have a conversation with him? That

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<v Speaker 3>was all a set up though, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because he wanted to kill him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, self defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Did y'all have any theories about the coffee? They only

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<v Speaker 2>could have been three three people? Who do you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Was Minie Dave and uh, all right, so we get

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<v Speaker 4>to who poisoned the coffee? Warrening mannis realized someone inside

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<v Speaker 4>his line about poisoning the coffee, and then they begin

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<v Speaker 4>executing suspects one by one.

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<v Speaker 2>Did just worked for you, Muny?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, well, the hopefulest means this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is almost fucking over from they're killing people and it

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<v Speaker 1>was not Jesus and I look down like, bro, are

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<v Speaker 1>you serious?

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole fucking hour left.

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<v Speaker 1>That means there's at least three hundred more niggers to

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<v Speaker 1>come out of these fucking people's mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>So they go us to the basement and they see

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<v Speaker 4>that Jody de Margret is down there. Who is Daisy's

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<v Speaker 4>brother hiding in the basement? Everything I said, I was

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<v Speaker 4>just like this here a shootout breaks out and more

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<v Speaker 4>desk Still nothing for you guys, can Mike when you

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<v Speaker 4>shot him in the nuts when they was a shootout.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we just shot him in the nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was a shot in the nuts hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I do like how Sam Jackson's character throughout the movie,

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<v Speaker 3>he just kept kind of poking and prodding see girl Bob,

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<v Speaker 3>And he was just kind of slowly gathering information and

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<v Speaker 3>putting stuff together. And then in this particular scene when

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<v Speaker 3>he got everybody together and lined them up against the wall,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he had to work with Mannuts because at

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<v Speaker 3>this point Run and the other guy dead from the coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>and Manuts was about to drink. He threw the shit

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<v Speaker 3>away or whatever, and then he just kind of walks

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<v Speaker 3>in your bob down and then he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>she was so fucked up. He said, many had a

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<v Speaker 3>sign that was missing. I guess that's what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was looking for, like a jar. He

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<v Speaker 3>pick up all the poisons covered. He was like, but

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<v Speaker 3>that sign's missing. No dolls and Mexicans allowed. And then

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<v Speaker 3>she took the sign down because she let dogs bro

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<v Speaker 3>that ship was so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we found out it wasn't true. We found

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<v Speaker 2>out it wasn't true, which what.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll we'll we'll get to it. But yeah, she still

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<v Speaker 3>let the Mexican in the out in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's true, Mike, anything for you, honest, no

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<v Speaker 2>know what you want to make the.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, before that part when the showdown between the General

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<v Speaker 5>and the and Samuel, I did like that part because

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<v Speaker 5>I think you just skipped over there, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that was an important part. How he went through He

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<v Speaker 5>had his son going through the snow all that ship.

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<v Speaker 5>That ship was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was. It was dramatic as hell.

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<v Speaker 5>But I thought it was a very intriguing story that

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<v Speaker 5>led to somebody poisoning in the coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so in the middle of the middle of that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>You think the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>It just seemed it seemed a little embellished or whatever

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<v Speaker 5>and whatever. So I wasn't sure if that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Wor he was true.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think he really shot the general's son.

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<v Speaker 5>I do think he shot the general's son. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if like he put his johnson down his throat.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, this ship was crazy. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if that part was true.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering if he started to make all that

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<v Speaker 3>up because he wanted to kill him as revenge.

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<v Speaker 2>For what he did to the troops or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he heard about the son came up here

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<v Speaker 3>and died. But because where did that gun come from?

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't the son's gun was itself?

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<v Speaker 5>Because the hangman wouldn't allow Well, if it was truly

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<v Speaker 5>the hang man, he wouldn't allow him just to shoot

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<v Speaker 5>him cold blood.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have had to have been defending himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever. Oh, even when when the guy walked in, when

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.399
<v Speaker 3>Manness walked in, was like, hey, you know who that is,

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, yeah, that's the that's the hang man.

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<v Speaker 3>You the sheriff. You don't even you know, So it

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, he's supposed to know, but he wouldn't

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:54.880
<v Speaker 3>knew it because he's the new sheriff. He never would

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 3>have met the hang man, so he never would have

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 3>really known him.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Where do we go from here? What about as

0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Ball or Marbury revealed to also be part of the game.

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Do y'all care about that?

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<v Speaker 1>By this point I already assumed they're all part of them,

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:15.119
<v Speaker 1>all right, they're all on the gang. Shan Tatum, I

0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>think by this point is he he's already got his

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 1>head shot off.

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, Okay, they're all in the game. Cool,

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 2>let's wrap this shit up.

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Be so the Yeah, because he held Shanon Tatum as

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.919
<v Speaker 3>long as he for a long time, about two hours,

0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:39.439
<v Speaker 3>them going back and showing how he uh, how they

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 3>went into this whole place with many who just happened

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 3>to be black and then another black woman worked there,

0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:48.119
<v Speaker 3>and then there was other two white people and then

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 3>sweet Dave for Again, that's what I'm saying, like, I

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.520
<v Speaker 3>don't know if Sam made that up to get Senor

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Bob to confess, because Senor Bob walked in and she

0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 3>could probably clearly tell he was Mexican and she was

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 3>just sweet, loving and adore everybody. But his face was covered.

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 3>He took it off though.

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Remember I still did think he was Mexican. Yeah, I

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 2>thought Sam made the story up.

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't think it was I.

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't think he was Mexican because then he didn't look

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>any kind of Mexican.

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.359
<v Speaker 2>He he had a bad accent. It seemed fake, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Sam made the story up.

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<v Speaker 4>Roger, you think the story he said was real? Which

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 4>one the story that he made about him coming in

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.400
<v Speaker 4>dogt in the Mexican.

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<v Speaker 5>M I don't know, because I had that same thought, like, well,

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 5>watch she let him in in the first place, and

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't think we ever saw the sign unless she

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 5>took the sign down before she said.

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It sounded like he.

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Knew many, really knew many, because remember he talked about

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 3>the stupid Yeah yeah, yeah, So I don't know why

0:23:58.200 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 3>he would make that one up and not.

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<v Speaker 2>The other stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>What do y'all think about Joe Gage being revealed as

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 4>as an outlaw? Was that surprising that all?

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Joe Gage?

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Not really. That was the one that that remember when

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:14.679
<v Speaker 3>he walked up and he was like, look, I got

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:19.359
<v Speaker 3>this person that I'm taking in. She's worth ten thousand dollars.

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yea, I gotta take the guns. And he walked

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 3>up to Joe Gauge to get the gun and Sam

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.439
<v Speaker 3>Jackson was behind him. What about him?

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Was I surprised he was an outlaw?

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:33.439
<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't surprised.

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 5>He was always just like one of the most mysterious ones,

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 5>like yeah, yeah, nah, It just surprised that he was

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 5>part of the Only.

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 2>One that was surprising was probably the hangman that he

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 2>was watered the game.

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, because he had to like the little British

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 5>accent and stuff, and I don't know, he just didn't

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:54.440
<v Speaker 5>seem like an outlaw, okay, he seemed like an authority.

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 2>What are y'all surprised about the letter?

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 3>No, you thought that it was fake? Yeah?

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew it was fake from the second the movie started.

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Second I had play I was like, oh, he's bullshitting.

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>He's using that letter to again after you hear thirteen niggers,

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, he's using that letter. So people actually

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>treat him like he's a human. So no, it wasn't

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.679
<v Speaker 1>surprising to me that he was lying about the letter and.

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Even said it. He said the only way white people

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 3>feel safe is if you disarmed, you know, so he

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 3>even said it. I was surprised he confessed that it

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 3>wasn't because it was like, it's not like Manet's had proof.

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, he was dying, so it was like didn't matter

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 2>at that point.

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 3>No, no, No, I was talking about earlier because I

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 3>remember he admitted the letter was fake earlier. Yeah, he

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 3>sold he went back because remember they were they were eating, uh,

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 3>they were eating the stew and stuff like that. And

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 3>then then Mannus was like, uh, what do you say,

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 3>black major or something like that, some other shit or whatever.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Then it was like yeah, it was it's just so stupid.

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, trying to stay focused. He was like, man,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:01.920
<v Speaker 3>I ain't got time for your shit, man, And then

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 3>he kept questioning about the letters, like yeah, I heard

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 3>you got a letter from Abe Lincoln, bah blah, blah

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 3>nah man. It was like, yeah, ain't nowhere in hell

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 3>he gonna be writing you a pen passed with Abraham Lincoln.

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 3>And then John Rouhone was like, wait, is that true?

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 3>Are you lying? And then he was like, yeah, I

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 3>was lying. I'm surprised if you confessed that easy though.

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 3>You put yourself at risk.

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>And then I feel like you feel like he ain't

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:23.120
<v Speaker 2>have nothing to lose.

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 3>At that point, I thought, I guess, but you you

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 3>you had a trust in a relationship that was built

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 3>with this guy that respected you on the battlefield, and

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 3>you completely wiped that away with admitting that the letter

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 3>was faith even though I think they still continued to

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.200
<v Speaker 3>work together, but still it was just kind of weird

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't even He had Shannon Tatum come up

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 3>and was like, uh oh win, he threatened the old

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 3>guy because it was like, how's the white guy? But

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 3>they needed to wipe the old general to decorate to

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 3>make it a little less suspicious. And it was like, yeah,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 3>so I gotta what he said. I got a pile of.

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 4>All right, so we'll wrap this, get to the wrap

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 4>up part of this. Well, you got surprised at the

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 4>end when it was just Mannix Warren and Daisy Left.

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Mike rot Were we surprised that they were the only

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>ones left? No, they shot everybody else. But you did

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>you expect them to be the last two standing? Probably

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>because they were the first two you introduced to. No,

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>not really, because the first we were first who were

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 1>introduced to was Kurt Russell and Jennifer Jason Lee whatever

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>her name was. But no, it was just like, all right,

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just glad this is over. I'm sorry. I know

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I sound like a wet blanket this. I really fucking

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>hated this. Every single minute that this was on my television.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 2>I was angry. What's a was surprised they were the

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 2>last two standing? It made sense that they were. They

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 2>were the last two standing, And I like how we

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 2>got here. Yeah, I'll say that.

0:27:58.359 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 3>What you mean?

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 5>So? I like that, you know, you start off like

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.399
<v Speaker 5>kind of what Kim was saying, you start off at

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 5>the beginning was a setup for the end or whatever.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 5>So I liked that you had this sheriff that had

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 5>hate for this black man and then you end up

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 5>having to side with him and be in cohoots with

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 5>him in order for you know, for survival, right, So

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 5>I like how that ended that you could be on

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 5>two sides of the coin, but still if there's one

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 5>common evil, that's where you can relate, you know what

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. And so yeah, and I just like how

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 5>this whole the intensity of all of this played out,

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Like I like how all of this from like him,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 5>like I want I'm interested, I'm interested in what she

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 5>got to sell, you know what I'm saying, Like like,

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 5>I feel like he did a really good job.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>That dude's a really good activis I And I really

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 2>liked liked him here and I always liked Sam Yale

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>for the most part in the movie. He's like you

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>believe that bitch, you know what?

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 5>But nah, man, I thought like everything about it, the intensity,

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 5>the way they told it, Like I just I like

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 5>how we got to this point or whatever.

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was very satisfying on how how it ended came.

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 3>So so the ending was interesting, and I'm wondering if

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Quinn Tarantino was trying to make like this larger point

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of what I was saying, It's like, here's this

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 3>guy these here's this racist guy who's been at odds

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>with the general this whole time, and now they had

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 3>to come together to work together. The thing about it

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 3>is it didn't really make any fucking sense managed decision

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 3>because because he expressed his dislike for black people, so

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 3>and and it in the end when uh, what's the name, Jeane,

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>what's calling him out? She was like, are you really

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 3>going to side with this guy? Like all of a sudden,

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 3>now you are an inWORD lover like it, which he has,

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 3>like he's hated and expressed like clear hatred for this guy.

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 3>So is Quinn trying to be deep and trying to

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 3>make a point like, oh, look, these two game together

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 3>to work for like the common good or for peace

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 3>or whatever or justice.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 4>Think that's what he was going for, like in his

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 4>brain from how especially how y'all are explain to him,

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that that's I did a good thing here,

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 4>look what I did.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>No, it fell flat. I'm sure if we're talking about

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 3>this period right after the Civil War where black people

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 3>are still hated and he hates black people, and you

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 3>got a chance to turn all these bodies in to

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 3>get this reward, and you don't like black people. Kill

0:30:58.400 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 3>the fucking black guy.

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>You think it was a coincidence that the only black

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>person or only black man in this film was shot in.

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>The dick.

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I will never, in my entire existence on this planet

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>understand black folks obsession with this motherfucking guy.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 2>This feels like black magas to me. I don't get it.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Black people loves Guarantino. I don't get it.

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>This motherfucker spits his eye every time he makes a movie,

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and y'all like spitting the other one.

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Please. You didn't like Jackie Barine. I don't like Ship

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 2>from this motherfucker man. Have you seen Jackie Bine? You

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>like it? No? I like Pam Grier. I don't like

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 2>anything that was.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.959
<v Speaker 1>That was probably the closest I came to liking one

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of his fucking movies. It was Jackie, but it seemed

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like that one. He was just like, okay, I think, no,

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I think. After that, he's like, you know what, let

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>me turn the nigger meter up to like bick and

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>let me say nigger as many times I can do

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it in a film and to see what people say.

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, oh, Ship, black folks ain't doing nothing

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>to me. I can get away with this. Matter of fact,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>he said, some of y'all like it. He said in

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>an interview Nigger Niger nigga, he said word of interviews,

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>big fucking man quin Tarantino. Really, I'm not a fan

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 2>of him. I like some of his movies. You like

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 2>all his movies?

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I thought you said you were.

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 2>He did has a Tarantino tramp stamp trying to lie. Now.

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I like pop fiction. I like Jackie Brown. I like this,

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't like to Kill Bill series?

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>There's not any fucking nigger yelling in that. He does say, nigger,

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>what'successive things?

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Here?

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Three is done? This one is definitely excessive. Three niggers

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>in the movie.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm out, bro, I don't wanna hear this ship no more,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>especially when there's only like one or two people know.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>A fucking movie.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so you're saying his movies. You're not saying a

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 4>movie in general because a movie.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>You watched the movie.

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>If it's a movie in general, I'm probably gonna be

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>okay with it. But if the same director makes two

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>more films after that and it's just as many niggas,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm out.

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm started looking at you like what the fuck is wrong?

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't and a lot of it was just

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 2>just so let me ask you to this well, anyone

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on the movie? No, fuck this movie and fuck

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<v Speaker 2>Quentin Tarantino. That's it for you two.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's this is This is a hard panel

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<v Speaker 2>to have have a serious conversation. So that's it for

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<v Speaker 2>the review.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of well facts, No, man, who's more racist?

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<v Speaker 4>David Chase with quin Garentino. I don't know who David

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<v Speaker 4>Chase is the Sopranos creative. You said this that was

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<v Speaker 4>racist too, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The Sopranos was definitely racist as fuck. Who's more racist?

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<v Speaker 2>But you put them in the same bucket? I should ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, man, I don't know what's worse or cold of

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<v Speaker 1>the flu. It's the same fucking shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think. I think Tarantino doesn't think he's racist.

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<v Speaker 2>He sure David Chase doesn't either.

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<v Speaker 3>David Chase came out of the minute No.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I said, I watched something and that chose me

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<v Speaker 4>that he is like racist leaning racist leaning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, I don't think that he knows.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like he just said about Tarantino. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that David Chase's portrayal of black people in the Sopranos

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<v Speaker 4>is really how he looks at black people, and he

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<v Speaker 4>don't think nothing wrong with it. I think Quentin Tarantino

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<v Speaker 4>just thinks he's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at some point both of them have been

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<v Speaker 1>approached and said, hey, your idea of black people is

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up, and in that moment they have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, damn, you're right. Neither one of them

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<v Speaker 1>did that because they're racist pieces of shit. But Quentin

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<v Speaker 1>Tarantino is never gonna go too far because he makes

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<v Speaker 1>too much money off of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Chase tried to do it in many sciens of k

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<v Speaker 4>new it. I never watched the Sopranos movie he tried to.

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<v Speaker 4>You could tell he was responding the backlash of the

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<v Speaker 4>Sopranos being racist because it's black characters is a whole

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<v Speaker 4>black storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>They did this whole thing and they're just regular ass

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<v Speaker 2>black folks. Yeah, it was about these that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had had a lingerin what you mean by

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<v Speaker 1>regular but exactly, yeah, ID so they're they're they're probably stupid, uneducated,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're violent.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like in the Soprano It was like the sexual

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<v Speaker 4>he's messing with the white girl, the white man white.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>It was about like the sixties riots, in New Jersey

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<v Speaker 4>or some ship and how the correlated.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he definitely tried to and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well last to wrap it up, I'm gonna answer your question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be Tarantino because Tarantino at this

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<v Speaker 1>point has been told multiple times that this is fucking weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have a heart on for the N

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<v Speaker 1>word in every film? And he's still as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, after he was called out, he did it

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<v Speaker 1>more so it's like, why are y'all cool with this

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<v Speaker 1>type of ship?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, I really don't. I want never understand.

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<v Speaker 5>But because he thinks it compromises the honesty of that

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<v Speaker 5>of the historical times every single time period I heard you,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm disagreeing with you again because he said this,

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<v Speaker 5>I know, but every you said this earlier is what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single time period that he has made. When has

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<v Speaker 1>he made a movie where you don't hear nigger at

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<v Speaker 1>least ten times?

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<v Speaker 3>Never? And I think he's saying that to just cover

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<v Speaker 3>up for yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Because every single movie he does it, So that means

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<v Speaker 1>every time period, and Tarantino's dumb ass brain, every single

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<v Speaker 1>time period, nigger is a table time word don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what yes going to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably said it in fucking what was that vampire

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<v Speaker 2>shit he was, and he probably said in that ship too.

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<v Speaker 3>He puts himself in the movies just so.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to drink your blood. Unless you're a nigger.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all right. If there's no more thoughts in our

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<v Speaker 4>hearts and minds, you're clear. That is the review for

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<v Speaker 4>the more an ambursaries.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, put this on the what not?

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't Jalen. You picked it. And then the fans

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<v Speaker 3>and the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did that ship on purpose. They did it

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose. All right, y'all we out peace,