1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five was loaded with ups and downs in 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: both film and television. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: On January eleventh, at. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Two pm the FPS Cast, we'll reveal their top ten 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: films and TV shows of the year. 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Live on YouTube. 7 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Patreons within the Director's Cut tier will also have the 8 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to provide their top fives to be played live 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: on the show. Be sure to come and check us 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: out and share your commentary asks, the CRUL questions, and 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: if you are a Patreon, take part. 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: In the show again. 13 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: That's January eleventh at two pm Eastern Standard Time on 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel YouTube dot com. 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: Forward Slash FPS podcast. 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: The Frames per Second Podcast. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: Okay, welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast. Thank you 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: guys for joining us for an anniversary review of The 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: Hateful Eight. 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: Quin Tarantino film. This is a ten year tenure. I 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: think it's ten ten years. 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 4: Let me make sure. I'll double check while you open up. 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 4: While you're checking, I am joined by the voice you 24 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 4: just heard. 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: What's up? 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: Ron? What up? 27 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Man? Ken? 28 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 29 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: Mike? 30 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: All right? 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: Yeah? 32 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: So' Quin Tarantino film, You're right, came out in twenty fifteen, 33 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 4: said a few years after the Civil War, and it's 34 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 4: about a bounty hunter named John Hayman. Ruth rod Yep, 35 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: what do you think about Hateful Late? 36 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: It's good. I'm a Quentin Tarantino fan. There's no surprise here. 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 5: I don't think I'm one of the few, if not only, 38 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 5: Quentin Tarantino fans on the show. 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah he's yeah. 40 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 5: I like the way he produces his films, like like, 41 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 5: I like his storytelling ability. 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Just yeah, the way he directs, I really like his style. 43 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Ken a filmmaker, Kim, what do you think about this film? 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: I hate this movie? 45 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Really why? 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: I hated every single minute I spent watching this movie. 47 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: Really? 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: Yes, hateful hate, hated hate for eight What do you 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: hate about it? Do you like Tarantino with all? 50 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: No? No, Tarantino. This is a guy that writes and 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: makes movies so he can just have the in word 52 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: in it. Throught the whole movie and that's all they 53 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: spent this whole movie doing. It was one scene where 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: they said the N word twelve times. It was I counted, 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: that's no, I counted, And that was That was in 56 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: the middle of the film. That was in the middle 57 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: when uh not ob what Mannets went to talk to 58 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 3: the old man because they probably didn't say it that much, 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: he said I And he said, I don't know that 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: in word. All I know is he's an in word 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: and that's and that's why I hate him, or something 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: like that. I'm like, bro, get this fuck, bro, I 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: hate I was like, I hate this. 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: Movie, Mike, what do you think about that? 65 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: Late? 66 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I rarely agree with Kim this much. This movie is 67 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: fucking garbage, and I definitely do not like Quentin Tarantino 68 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: as a filmmaker, as a director, or as a human. 69 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a fucking piece of shit. Jesus, and 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: this movie just reinforces everything I've ever felt about him. 71 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: I've never seen this movie, but I am saying right now, 72 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: I am not watching any more Quentin Tarantino films period. 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. This is your first time see 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: this is my first time seeing this garbage ass film. 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: I've seen you know Inglorious Bastards and pulp fiction and 76 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: Foxy Brown. 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: I've seen that stuff. 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: And then I stopped. I was just like, this is ridiculous. 79 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: After Django, I'm good, I'm not watching any more. 80 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Of this shit. 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: This movie felt like he just wanted to say nigger. 82 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: This movie did not have to have nigger this much. 83 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: And the scene that Kim was talking about, he's the 84 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: exact scene where I was like, I'm fucking done. This 85 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: is pissing me off. They I don't know that nigger, 86 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: but all I know is he's a nigger. 87 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: It's like, all right, man, come on, bro, all I'm done? 88 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: How fuck is this? What is this? 89 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: Oh? 90 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Y'all think it's like some like lust of his Yes, 91 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I think Quentin Tarantino gets a boner from saying nigger 92 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: or or having it in his films. He loves it. 93 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: He fucking loves it. And I will never understand black 94 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: folks obsession with this fucking asshole. I will never understand it. 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: You put a black man by himself in this fucking 96 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: faux western and you say nigger one hundred and fifty 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: times over the course of a two hour long, boring 98 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: ass nothing burger ass movie. Fuck this movie, and fuck 99 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Quentin Tarantino. 100 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: All right. I liked him more than I liked him, kid. 101 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: I will ride on this like it's one of my 102 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: favorite Taranty. 103 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: Of course it is. I've never actually but I don't. 104 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't like jingle. I feel the same way with 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: you about jangle. I don't like that. 106 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: This one I feel like, but because of the who 107 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: done an aspect of it, that's why I like the film. 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: So we open with John Ruth riding in a stage 109 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: coach with Daisy Dumark. 110 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: She's chained to his side. 111 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: What do you guys think about this open scene John 112 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: Ruth and Daisy and him being about one hundred anything 113 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: step out, jump out to y'all on this. 114 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: I mean, as soon as he interested what he said, hey, 115 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: hold on, stop there, blackfellow, I'm like, bro, what why? 116 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: Because it's the time. 117 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: No see, y'all give me this every time I y'all 118 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: say that and bring up this the time thing. Bro, 119 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: this was excessive. 120 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: This was excessive. 121 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: You don't think it was accessive? 122 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 5: Then? 123 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: Don't you know what? 124 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: Why is it always in his movies? 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: That's the question I have for y'all everyone that wants 126 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: to defend this bullshit? Why is it always in his movies? 127 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: No matter if it's the old time, no matter if 128 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: it's nineteen seventy, no matter if it's nineteen ninety, it's 129 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: nothing but nigger? 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: Why And as soon as the lady she was like, hi, nigger, 131 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: and he was like, oh, she's a whatever whatever fella like, 132 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: and she just kept doing it over and off. 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, bruh. 134 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: And then on top of that, I can even take 135 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: and you can also say it's abusive to woman. He 136 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: kept beating the shit out of her over and over again, 137 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: like what the fuck? I do? 138 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: Agree with you guys? 139 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 4: In his obsession for the word I do one hundred percent, 140 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: I think he hides behind the guise of I'm an artist, 141 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: so this is it's free for me to be able 142 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: to do this. I'm I'm just expressing my artistic you 143 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I feel like that's how he 144 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: is with it, but I do I. 145 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: Guess my thing, Go ahead, I guess my thing is 146 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 5: is like the people that worked out, the black people 147 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 5: that work directly with him say this. 148 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: It's not even just him saying it. 149 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: It's what they're saying when they're questioned about it, like 150 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 5: how do you guys feel being in these movies that 151 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 5: where it's happening, And they're the ones that's like, well, 152 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 5: this is what they they understand the reasoning behind it. 153 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: So this is coming directly from the people that are 154 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: involved in the filmmaking. 155 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: And you don't think they're getting paid. You think they're 156 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: being paid to say that, period of course. 157 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: Against him. If he's giving him the biggest check he 158 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: could possibly get. 159 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: They could after they get the check, they can say 160 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: it afterwards. I mean, if after they get the check. 161 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: Why would they do that, because then they won't get 162 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: another film of his movie. 163 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's most of them there you go, So how 164 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: many other black people are Again, we're talking about Samuel L. 165 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 5: Jackson for as I know, I feel like he stands 166 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: for things like work for Spike too. 167 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: We were Spike too, so. 168 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 5: So I don't want to get into that conversation. I 169 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 5: think that's just a different conversation. It was just you 170 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: always thought the conversation. That's why I said, let me 171 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: just pull it back, because we've had this conversation so 172 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: many times, and I know we're talking about this movie, 173 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: but I feel like that's always you'll criticism is just 174 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 5: the Nigga Ship. 175 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: It's no, I said, very clearly and very plainly. The 176 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: ship is boring and long, and it's a nothing burger film. 177 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 5: It's not just a lot of three hours of like 178 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: thing man a lot dollar his movies, some of the 179 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 5: most of his movies. 180 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Are dialogue heavy, trash dialog, all of them. Yeah. 181 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, the new sheriff in town. And you know, even 182 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: though there's his lack of believing. Man, it's was cool. 183 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: But they just spent a lot of time just going back. 184 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: The setup is great, like like especially for like a 185 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: who Done It film? The set up was great. 186 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: Speaking to the setup and the black character, y'all talking 187 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: about it's Major Marcus Warren, He joins the rite. First 188 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: impressions of Major Marcus, warning we all impressed his resume. 189 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: Samuel Jackson, who he said he was, I thought he 190 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: was great in this. 191 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: I thought sam did a great job, and especially with 192 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: the way he did handle the word nigga, I feel 193 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 5: like he balanced it out calling them crackers and all 194 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: this other type of stuff, and just, uh, why. 195 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: Are y'all do y'all, we ain't gonna make it. 196 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: As soon as I heard, we ain't gonna be a counter. 197 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: It is a counter, Oh my god, dude, it is 198 00:08:59,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: a counter. 199 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: You never mind, I'm not gonna I know that defending 200 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: on offensive and I don't want to sound offensive. 201 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like what I'm saying, it's it's a man, y'all, 202 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 5: y'all give y'all give the weirdest ship. 203 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: Grace but not what what? What? 204 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: What? Give me an example I have before? Like I said, 205 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to give me one, Now give one 206 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: rod exactly. Let's move on because you don't have killing 207 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: murders all that ship. That ship could be cool and 208 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: write up your alley. 209 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: But wait, are you serious? See that's what I'm saying 210 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 2: because you. 211 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: Throws out the most ridiculous comparison and then trying to go, 212 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: oh man, you think watching something that is not real? 213 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: Watching a clown kill people is the same as watching 214 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: a film where someone's saying bigger time. You know who 215 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: else says that same exact defense white people. They do 216 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: it all the time. And I'm like, I don't listen 217 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: to racist music. Oh, but you're listening to Slayer talks 218 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: about Satan. 219 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: Come on, bro, because it was like the hanging, you 220 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: already did it. 221 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: You can't say I'm not going through your he did it. 222 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: Is like he respects and myers what Major was able 223 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: to do, but at the same time calls him a 224 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: nigger and refers to a nigga. It's like, bro, which 225 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: one is it? If you have that much respect for 226 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: a guy that you think has a letter from Abraham 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: Lincoln who freed the slaves. Why are you constantly even 228 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 3: said he said, you know, the blackies or darkies. 229 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: He called him dark. 230 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: I get what Mike and Kennison because he's trying to 231 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 4: he's trying to portray it. 232 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: They just talked like that. 233 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: Yes, But even if they don't think they did, Tarantino, 234 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: I think they did. It's satire. I think I think 235 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: they did. You think they talked, yes, But my issue 236 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: is always, why is it in every single one of 237 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: this motherfucker's films, Every single film is the same ship 238 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Niger Niger, nigger, nigg nigger, nigger, niggera every movie. 239 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: We're talking about this movie. No, No, I'm not. 240 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: You might be. 241 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about all of it. I'm talking about right now. 242 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: We're talking about all of his movies, and this plays. 243 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: In but we're not talking about You can't tell me 244 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 5: what I can talk about, and you're you're not to 245 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 5: go to the You made the last one. 246 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: I did this movie, the last one, and I tried. 247 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: Major Marcus warned produces a letter from the President Abraham Lincoln, 248 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: which seemed to soften the white character and made him 249 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: trusting more. 250 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: This went overwhelm for you. 251 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: Up, Yes it did, especially how it came back around later. Yeah, 252 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: let's saying set up was great with this movie. 253 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: Set up was great. 254 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: Did you think about the pulling out. 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 3: To still got it? Yeah? I still got it? Yeah. 256 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: Sam did a good job. Sam did a good job. 257 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. But every time he was called the nigga, he's 258 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: in the smiling anyway. I don't know why the hell Lincoln. 259 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: Will be writing him like pimp pals. Yeah, like pimps 260 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: or whatever. But that's how good he was. He knew 261 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: he heard a major Marquis Warren and didn't do shit 262 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: for you. What about Sheriff Chris mannis when he came around, 263 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: did you like him? 264 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: Like? 265 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: I like none of these fucking people. I don't like 266 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: none of these fucking people. This ship was garbage. 267 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: It sounded like he was on some bullshit Chris Mann. 268 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 4: It's the loud mouthed Southern sheriff, openly disrespectful one, which 269 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: I think about his relationship and how he was looking 270 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 4: at Warren. 271 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: I think they did all of this throughout this whole 272 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 3: movie to get us to them at the end and 273 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: constantly being you know, an inn word hater and hating 274 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: black people all to get to the end. But you know, 275 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: he was an asshole. You know, he kept you know, 276 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: poking and prodding the general. He just didn't like him, 277 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: or the mayor whatever his name was. He didn't like 278 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: him at all, you know. And I didn't think it 279 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: was trustworthy. I didn't think he was like really going 280 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: to be the sheriff either. I thought it was a bullshit. 281 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: I was like John Run or whatever his name. 282 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Was, like how you just kept pressing him, and he said, look, 283 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: it's just politics. He was saying that it was politics 284 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: like that. 285 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: After he got called out, he said, oh, I ain't 286 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: mean to get into politics. 287 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you spit here, you don't call me. 288 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: A nigger five times, and now you don't want to 289 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: get into politics. 290 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: Got a gun in his face. Yeah, all right. 291 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: So the snowstorm gets worse and they gotta go to 292 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: many hair er dashers, the haberdashery whatever her name is. 293 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: They had to go to her house. They get there, 294 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 4: many as gone. So this is the setup for the 295 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 4: whole who done it thing? At this point in time, 296 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: is still nothing better for you much? 297 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: No? 298 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 4: I was just like, all right, you weren't even curious 299 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: about what the fuck was gonna happen. I think that 300 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 4: was the what I like most about this movie. She's like, bro, 301 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: what is happening? 302 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: What's going on? 303 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: I didn't think, really, no, nothing was happening. I love 304 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: the set up up two people and they were hitting 305 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: in the town, and like, why would just right? Nothing 306 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 4: was happening. So you look at it like why just 307 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: even a movie? But then you get to the house 308 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, okay something, so who done? 309 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: After I heard nigger thirty eight times, I didn't give 310 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: a fuck about anything else that happen. 311 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: It definitely was, was it. It's to the point where 312 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: I was watching it and I was complaining about the 313 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: movie and I was saying the reasons why, and my 314 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: wife was hearing it. She was in the kitchen cooking 315 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there watching it, and he said, it's 316 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: so many times, so many, so much that she was like, oh, yeah, yeah, 317 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: I hear exactly what you're saying. What you're talking about, like, 318 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: and she'll give more grace than I am, because maybe 319 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: I could be a little bit, you know, extra over 320 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: the top or whatever. But she was like, oh, yeah, 321 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: I what you're saying what I do like about I 322 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: like Sam and Senior Bob's exchange in the thing where 323 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: they were doing the horses, and I liked when he 324 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: was like, are you is not like it? Let me 325 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: a liar? He was like, no, I'm not. He said 326 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: what he said. He said, I'm not calling you a liar, 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: say says, I sound like it. But I yet I 328 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: liked that line. I thought that was funny. 329 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: So you mentioned Bob, he was there, Oswaldo was there 330 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: the hang in the Red Rock, Joe was there at 331 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: the Quiet Cowboy in General Sandy Smithers, a former Confederate general. 332 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 4: None of these characters did anything for you, rod Ken, Mike, Yes, yeah, 333 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 4: they a nice collection of people. 334 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like I said, it was the mystique. It's like, okay, 335 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: what's going on here? 336 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: You got a guy sitting in the bag, you got 337 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: a general just sitting here at the front in a chair. 338 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: You got the guy who was claiming to be the 339 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: hangman where they're on their way to town. So you 340 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: got all of these interactions, but still old boy was 341 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 5: still skeptical of like, Okay, well, who are y'all real? 342 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying? So I thought that that 343 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: was good. He see, he seemed very intuitive, and I 344 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 5: liked that of Kurt Russell, right that. Yeah, yeah, I 345 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: like I liked his character. 346 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so someone poisons to coffee. Two characters die. 347 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: Damn you jumped all the way. 348 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 5: I mean, I feel you know, I felt like I 349 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 5: was just gonna keep talking about him saying niggas. 350 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: But so I was anything characters because there is a 351 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: lot of filler in this part. So I do agree 352 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: with you jumping to the other part. So I don't 353 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: entirely disagree because it's like, what are we going to 354 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: talk about with him? Just fact finding who all these 355 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 3: people were? Even the English guy trying to pretend like 356 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: he's a little bit better than everybody. Uh what did 357 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: he call him? He called him another word Nubian. 358 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: Was a levels. 359 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: But I really would have loved to hear like I 360 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: thought it would have been interesting, like Sam Jackson's characters 361 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: conversation with the general because they were on opposing sides, 362 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: and how they would have had, like, you know, a 363 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: real dialogue, even though he was very clear that he 364 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: didn't like him because of who he was, but just 365 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: Sam fighting for But even Sam point I was like, yeah, 366 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: you captured like ten fifteen Color commanders or whatever and 367 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: not on the made it back to camp, you know, 368 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: so that could have been something interesting, you know that 369 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: they did with that, but even still kind of showing 370 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: that he had sort of respect for yeah, you know, yeah, 371 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: can I say I was on the battlefield with this guy? 372 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: Can I said not have a conversation with him? That 373 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: was all a set up though, Yeah, it was. 374 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: It was because he wanted to kill him. 375 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, self defense. 376 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: You would love to have more content from frames per second. 377 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 378 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: review and discuss. Our patreon gives the listeners the power 379 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: to nominate and vote a monthly discussion in film review, 380 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from 381 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: each cast member. You also get the opportunity to vote 382 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: on the publicly released anniversary film, all exclusive to our Patreon. 383 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: So become a patron at patreon dot com frames per second, 384 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: where there are two tiers you can choose from. That's 385 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: patreon dot com forward slash frames per second. 386 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: Did y'all have any theories about the coffee? They only 387 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 2: could have been three three people? Who do you think. 388 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: Was Minie Dave and uh, all right, so we get 389 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: to who poisoned the coffee? Warrening mannis realized someone inside 390 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 4: his line about poisoning the coffee, and then they begin 391 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: executing suspects one by one. 392 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: Did just worked for you, Muny? 393 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,959 Speaker 1: I was just like, well, the hopefulest means this movie 394 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: is almost fucking over from they're killing people and it 395 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: was not Jesus and I look down like, bro, are 396 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: you serious? 397 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: There's a whole fucking hour left. 398 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: That means there's at least three hundred more niggers to 399 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: come out of these fucking people's mouth. 400 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 401 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: So they go us to the basement and they see 402 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: that Jody de Margret is down there. Who is Daisy's 403 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: brother hiding in the basement? Everything I said, I was 404 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: just like this here a shootout breaks out and more 405 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 4: desk Still nothing for you guys, can Mike when you 406 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: shot him in the nuts when they was a shootout. 407 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just shot him in the nuts. 408 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah that was a shot in the nuts hit. 409 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I do like how Sam Jackson's character throughout the movie, 410 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: he just kept kind of poking and prodding see girl Bob, 411 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 3: And he was just kind of slowly gathering information and 412 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: putting stuff together. And then in this particular scene when 413 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: he got everybody together and lined them up against the wall, 414 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: and then he had to work with Mannuts because at 415 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: this point Run and the other guy dead from the coffee, 416 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: and Manuts was about to drink. He threw the shit 417 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: away or whatever, and then he just kind of walks 418 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: in your bob down and then he was like, well, 419 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: she was so fucked up. He said, many had a 420 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 3: sign that was missing. I guess that's what you're looking for. 421 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 3: I thought he was looking for, like a jar. He 422 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 3: pick up all the poisons covered. He was like, but 423 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: that sign's missing. No dolls and Mexicans allowed. And then 424 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: she took the sign down because she let dogs bro 425 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: that ship was so fun. 426 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: But then we found out it wasn't true. We found 427 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: out it wasn't true, which what. 428 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: We'll we'll we'll get to it. But yeah, she still 429 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: let the Mexican in the out in the building. 430 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's true, Mike, anything for you, honest, no 431 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: know what you want to make the. 432 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, before that part when the showdown between the General 433 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: and the and Samuel, I did like that part because 434 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 5: I think you just skipped over there, and I think 435 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 5: that was an important part. How he went through He 436 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: had his son going through the snow all that ship. 437 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: That ship was crazy. 438 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: It was. It was dramatic as hell. 439 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 5: But I thought it was a very intriguing story that 440 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: led to somebody poisoning in the coffee. 441 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: Like so in the middle of the middle of that, 442 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: that's when somebody. 443 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: You think the truth. 444 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't. 445 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: It just seemed it seemed a little embellished or whatever 446 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 5: and whatever. So I wasn't sure if that's. 447 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Wor he was true. 448 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: Do you think he really shot the general's son. 449 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 5: I do think he shot the general's son. I don't 450 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 5: know if like he put his johnson down his throat. 451 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 5: You know, this ship was crazy. Yeah, I don't know 452 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: if that part was true. 453 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: I was wondering if he started to make all that 454 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: up because he wanted to kill him as revenge. 455 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: For what he did to the troops or whatever. 456 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he heard about the son came up here 457 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: and died. But because where did that gun come from? 458 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: That wasn't the son's gun was itself? 459 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: Because the hangman wouldn't allow Well, if it was truly 460 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: the hang man, he wouldn't allow him just to shoot 461 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: him cold blood. 462 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: He would have had to have been defending himself. 463 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: Whatever. Oh, even when when the guy walked in, when 464 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: Manness walked in, was like, hey, you know who that is, 465 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: he was like, yeah, that's the that's the hang man. 466 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 3: You the sheriff. You don't even you know, So it 467 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, he's supposed to know, but he wouldn't 468 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 3: knew it because he's the new sheriff. He never would 469 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: have met the hang man, so he never would have 470 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: really known him. 471 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, Where do we go from here? What about as 472 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: Ball or Marbury revealed to also be part of the game. 473 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: Do y'all care about that? 474 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: By this point I already assumed they're all part of them, 475 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: all right, they're all on the gang. Shan Tatum, I 476 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: think by this point is he he's already got his 477 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: head shot off. 478 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, they're all in the game. Cool, 479 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: let's wrap this shit up. 480 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: Be so the Yeah, because he held Shanon Tatum as 481 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: long as he for a long time, about two hours, 482 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 3: them going back and showing how he uh, how they 483 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: went into this whole place with many who just happened 484 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: to be black and then another black woman worked there, 485 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: and then there was other two white people and then 486 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: sweet Dave for Again, that's what I'm saying, like, I 487 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: don't know if Sam made that up to get Senor 488 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: Bob to confess, because Senor Bob walked in and she 489 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: could probably clearly tell he was Mexican and she was 490 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: just sweet, loving and adore everybody. But his face was covered. 491 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: He took it off though. 492 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: Remember I still did think he was Mexican. Yeah, I 493 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 2: thought Sam made the story up. 494 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't think it was I. 495 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Don't think he was Mexican because then he didn't look 496 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: any kind of Mexican. 497 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: He he had a bad accent. It seemed fake, And 498 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: I think that Sam made the story up. 499 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 4: Roger, you think the story he said was real? Which 500 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: one the story that he made about him coming in 501 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: dogt in the Mexican. 502 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 5: M I don't know, because I had that same thought, like, well, 503 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: watch she let him in in the first place, and 504 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: I don't think we ever saw the sign unless she 505 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 5: took the sign down before she said. 506 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. It sounded like he. 507 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: Knew many, really knew many, because remember he talked about 508 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: the stupid Yeah yeah, yeah, So I don't know why 509 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: he would make that one up and not. 510 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: The other stuff. 511 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: What do y'all think about Joe Gage being revealed as 512 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: as an outlaw? Was that surprising that all? 513 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: Joe Gage? 514 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: Not really. That was the one that that remember when 515 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 3: he walked up and he was like, look, I got 516 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: this person that I'm taking in. She's worth ten thousand dollars. 517 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: Oh yea, I gotta take the guns. And he walked 518 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: up to Joe Gauge to get the gun and Sam 519 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: Jackson was behind him. What about him? 520 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: Was I surprised he was an outlaw? 521 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 522 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't surprised. 523 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: He was always just like one of the most mysterious ones, 524 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, nah, It just surprised that he was 525 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 5: part of the Only. 526 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: One that was surprising was probably the hangman that he 527 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: was watered the game. 528 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because he had to like the little British 529 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 5: accent and stuff, and I don't know, he just didn't 530 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 5: seem like an outlaw, okay, he seemed like an authority. 531 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: What are y'all surprised about the letter? 532 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: No, you thought that it was fake? Yeah? 533 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: I knew it was fake from the second the movie started. 534 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: Second I had play I was like, oh, he's bullshitting. 535 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: He's using that letter to again after you hear thirteen niggers, 536 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, he's using that letter. So people actually 537 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: treat him like he's a human. So no, it wasn't 538 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: surprising to me that he was lying about the letter and. 539 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: Even said it. He said the only way white people 540 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: feel safe is if you disarmed, you know, so he 541 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: even said it. I was surprised he confessed that it 542 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 3: wasn't because it was like, it's not like Manet's had proof. 543 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: Well, he was dying, so it was like didn't matter 544 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: at that point. 545 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: No, no, No, I was talking about earlier because I 546 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: remember he admitted the letter was fake earlier. Yeah, he 547 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 3: sold he went back because remember they were they were eating, uh, 548 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: they were eating the stew and stuff like that. And 549 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: then then Mannus was like, uh, what do you say, 550 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: black major or something like that, some other shit or whatever. 551 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: Then it was like yeah, it was it's just so stupid. 552 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: But anyway, trying to stay focused. He was like, man, 553 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: I ain't got time for your shit, man, And then 554 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: he kept questioning about the letters, like yeah, I heard 555 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: you got a letter from Abe Lincoln, bah blah, blah 556 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: nah man. It was like, yeah, ain't nowhere in hell 557 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: he gonna be writing you a pen passed with Abraham Lincoln. 558 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: And then John Rouhone was like, wait, is that true? 559 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: Are you lying? And then he was like, yeah, I 560 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: was lying. I'm surprised if you confessed that easy though. 561 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 3: You put yourself at risk. 562 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: And then I feel like you feel like he ain't 563 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: have nothing to lose. 564 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: At that point, I thought, I guess, but you you 565 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: you had a trust in a relationship that was built 566 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: with this guy that respected you on the battlefield, and 567 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: you completely wiped that away with admitting that the letter 568 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: was faith even though I think they still continued to 569 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: work together, but still it was just kind of weird 570 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: and they didn't even He had Shannon Tatum come up 571 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: and was like, uh oh win, he threatened the old 572 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 3: guy because it was like, how's the white guy? But 573 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: they needed to wipe the old general to decorate to 574 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: make it a little less suspicious. And it was like, yeah, 575 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: so I gotta what he said. I got a pile of. 576 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: All right, so we'll wrap this, get to the wrap 577 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: up part of this. Well, you got surprised at the 578 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: end when it was just Mannix Warren and Daisy Left. 579 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: Mike rot Were we surprised that they were the only 580 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: ones left? No, they shot everybody else. But you did 581 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: you expect them to be the last two standing? Probably 582 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: because they were the first two you introduced to. No, 583 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: not really, because the first we were first who were 584 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: introduced to was Kurt Russell and Jennifer Jason Lee whatever 585 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: her name was. But no, it was just like, all right, 586 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm just glad this is over. I'm sorry. I know 587 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: I sound like a wet blanket this. I really fucking 588 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: hated this. Every single minute that this was on my television. 589 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: I was angry. What's a was surprised they were the 590 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: last two standing? It made sense that they were. They 591 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: were the last two standing, And I like how we 592 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: got here. Yeah, I'll say that. 593 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: What you mean? 594 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: So? I like that, you know, you start off like 595 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: kind of what Kim was saying, you start off at 596 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: the beginning was a setup for the end or whatever. 597 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 5: So I liked that you had this sheriff that had 598 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 5: hate for this black man and then you end up 599 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 5: having to side with him and be in cohoots with 600 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: him in order for you know, for survival, right, So 601 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: I like how that ended that you could be on 602 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: two sides of the coin, but still if there's one 603 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: common evil, that's where you can relate, you know what 604 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: I'm saying. And so yeah, and I just like how 605 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 5: this whole the intensity of all of this played out, 606 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 5: Like I like how all of this from like him, 607 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 5: like I want I'm interested, I'm interested in what she 608 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 5: got to sell, you know what I'm saying, Like like, 609 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: I feel like he did a really good job. 610 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: That dude's a really good activis I And I really 611 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: liked liked him here and I always liked Sam Yale 612 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: for the most part in the movie. He's like you 613 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: believe that bitch, you know what? 614 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: But nah, man, I thought like everything about it, the intensity, 615 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 5: the way they told it, Like I just I like 616 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: how we got to this point or whatever. 617 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: And it was very satisfying on how how it ended came. 618 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: So so the ending was interesting, and I'm wondering if 619 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: Quinn Tarantino was trying to make like this larger point 620 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: kind of what I was saying, It's like, here's this 621 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: guy these here's this racist guy who's been at odds 622 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: with the general this whole time, and now they had 623 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: to come together to work together. The thing about it 624 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: is it didn't really make any fucking sense managed decision 625 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: because because he expressed his dislike for black people, so 626 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: and and it in the end when uh, what's the name, Jeane, 627 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 3: what's calling him out? She was like, are you really 628 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: going to side with this guy? Like all of a sudden, 629 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: now you are an inWORD lover like it, which he has, 630 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: like he's hated and expressed like clear hatred for this guy. 631 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: So is Quinn trying to be deep and trying to 632 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: make a point like, oh, look, these two game together 633 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 3: to work for like the common good or for peace 634 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: or whatever or justice. 635 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 4: Think that's what he was going for, like in his 636 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 4: brain from how especially how y'all are explain to him, 637 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 4: I think that that's I did a good thing here, 638 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: look what I did. 639 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: No, it fell flat. I'm sure if we're talking about 640 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: this period right after the Civil War where black people 641 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: are still hated and he hates black people, and you 642 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: got a chance to turn all these bodies in to 643 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: get this reward, and you don't like black people. Kill 644 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: the fucking black guy. 645 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: You think it was a coincidence that the only black 646 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: person or only black man in this film was shot in. 647 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: The dick. 648 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: Right. 649 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: I will never, in my entire existence on this planet 650 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: understand black folks obsession with this motherfucking guy. 651 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: This feels like black magas to me. I don't get it. 652 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: Black people loves Guarantino. I don't get it. 653 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: This motherfucker spits his eye every time he makes a movie, 654 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: and y'all like spitting the other one. 655 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: Please. You didn't like Jackie Barine. I don't like Ship 656 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: from this motherfucker man. Have you seen Jackie Bine? You 657 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: like it? No? I like Pam Grier. I don't like 658 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: anything that was. 659 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 1: That was probably the closest I came to liking one 660 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: of his fucking movies. It was Jackie, but it seemed 661 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: like that one. He was just like, okay, I think, no, 662 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: I think. After that, he's like, you know what, let 663 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: me turn the nigger meter up to like bick and 664 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: let me say nigger as many times I can do 665 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: it in a film and to see what people say. 666 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, Ship, black folks ain't doing nothing 667 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: to me. I can get away with this. Matter of fact, 668 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: he said, some of y'all like it. He said in 669 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: an interview Nigger Niger nigga, he said word of interviews, 670 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: big fucking man quin Tarantino. Really, I'm not a fan 671 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: of him. I like some of his movies. You like 672 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: all his movies? 673 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: No, no, I thought you said you were. 674 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: He did has a Tarantino tramp stamp trying to lie. Now. 675 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: I like pop fiction. I like Jackie Brown. I like this, 676 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 2: Oh you don't like to Kill Bill series? 677 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: There's not any fucking nigger yelling in that. He does say, nigger, 678 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: what'successive things? 679 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: Here? 680 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 2: Three is done? This one is definitely excessive. Three niggers 681 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: in the movie. 682 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm out, bro, I don't wanna hear this ship no more, 683 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: especially when there's only like one or two people know. 684 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 2: A fucking movie. 685 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 4: Okay, so you're saying his movies. You're not saying a 686 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 4: movie in general because a movie. 687 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: You watched the movie. 688 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: If it's a movie in general, I'm probably gonna be 689 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: okay with it. But if the same director makes two 690 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: more films after that and it's just as many niggas, 691 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm out. 692 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm started looking at you like what the fuck is wrong? 693 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: And it doesn't and a lot of it was just 694 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: just so let me ask you to this well, anyone 695 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: thoughts on the movie? No, fuck this movie and fuck 696 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Quentin Tarantino. That's it for you two. 697 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 698 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean it's this is This is a hard panel 699 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: to have have a serious conversation. So that's it for 700 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: the review. 701 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 4: A couple of well facts, No, man, who's more racist? 702 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: David Chase with quin Garentino. I don't know who David 703 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: Chase is the Sopranos creative. You said this that was 704 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: racist too, Yes. 705 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: The Sopranos was definitely racist as fuck. Who's more racist? 706 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: But you put them in the same bucket? I should ask. 707 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: Look, man, I don't know what's worse or cold of 708 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: the flu. It's the same fucking shit. 709 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: I think. I think Tarantino doesn't think he's racist. 710 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: He sure David Chase doesn't either. 711 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: David Chase came out of the minute No. 712 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: No, I said, I watched something and that chose me 713 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 4: that he is like racist leaning racist leaning. 714 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean, well, I don't think that he knows. 715 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: It's just like he just said about Tarantino. I think 716 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: that David Chase's portrayal of black people in the Sopranos 717 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: is really how he looks at black people, and he 718 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 4: don't think nothing wrong with it. I think Quentin Tarantino 719 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 4: just thinks he's cool. 720 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: I think at some point both of them have been 721 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: approached and said, hey, your idea of black people is 722 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: fucked up, and in that moment they have the opportunity 723 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: to be like, damn, you're right. Neither one of them 724 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 1: did that because they're racist pieces of shit. But Quentin 725 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: Tarantino is never gonna go too far because he makes 726 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: too much money off of us. 727 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 4: Chase tried to do it in many sciens of k 728 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: new it. I never watched the Sopranos movie he tried to. 729 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 4: You could tell he was responding the backlash of the 730 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 4: Sopranos being racist because it's black characters is a whole 731 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: black storyline. 732 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 2: They did this whole thing and they're just regular ass 733 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: black folks. Yeah, it was about these that. 734 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had had a lingerin what you mean by 735 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: regular but exactly, yeah, ID so they're they're they're probably stupid, uneducated, 736 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: and they're violent. 737 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 4: Just like in the Soprano It was like the sexual 738 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 4: he's messing with the white girl, the white man white. 739 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 740 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: It was about like the sixties riots, in New Jersey 741 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 4: or some ship and how the correlated. 742 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, he definitely tried to and yeah. 743 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: Well last to wrap it up, I'm gonna answer your question. 744 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: I think it would be Tarantino because Tarantino at this 745 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: point has been told multiple times that this is fucking weird. 746 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: Why do you have a heart on for the N 747 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: word in every film? And he's still as a matter 748 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: of fact, after he was called out, he did it 749 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: more so it's like, why are y'all cool with this 750 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: type of ship? 751 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't get it, I really don't. I want never understand. 752 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 5: But because he thinks it compromises the honesty of that 753 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 5: of the historical times every single time period I heard you, 754 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 5: and I'm disagreeing with you again because he said this, 755 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 5: I know, but every you said this earlier is what 756 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 757 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: Every single time period that he has made. When has 758 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: he made a movie where you don't hear nigger at 759 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: least ten times? 760 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: Never? And I think he's saying that to just cover 761 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 3: up for yes. 762 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: Because every single movie he does it, So that means 763 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: every time period, and Tarantino's dumb ass brain, every single 764 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: time period, nigger is a table time word don't. 765 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: Yes, that's what yes going to say that. 766 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: He probably said it in fucking what was that vampire 767 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: shit he was, and he probably said in that ship too. 768 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: He puts himself in the movies just so. 769 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: I want to drink your blood. Unless you're a nigger. 770 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 4: That's all right. If there's no more thoughts in our 771 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 4: hearts and minds, you're clear. That is the review for 772 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 4: the more an ambursaries. 773 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, put this on the what not? 774 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't Jalen. You picked it. And then the fans 775 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: and the fans. 776 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: And they did that ship on purpose. They did it 777 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 1: on purpose. All right, y'all we out peace,