WEBVTT - Episode 4689: Tony Katz Today Hour 2 - 08/24/26

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<v Speaker 1>Live from Vaal, Heartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Katz today.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Welcome everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You can probably tell this is Tony, this is Kia Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>He needed somebody to step in really quick while he

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<v Speaker 2>ran out to take care of some other commitments. But

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<v Speaker 2>luckily he's always got me in the pocket. Kia Davis

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<v Speaker 2>coming to you live from southern California. It's always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know me by now. It's always a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>to be here. But in case your new year, let

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<v Speaker 2>me just tell you want to know a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about who I am. Best place to go two places

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<v Speaker 2>actually acts at Kia Davis ki r A Davis or

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<v Speaker 2>hit up my website at Justkiadavis dot com and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see all the stories I'm working on, all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I do, and I fill in for radio across

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<v Speaker 2>the entire country. But TKT is one of my favorite shows,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not quite sure what you guys have been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about in the first hour. I was busy quickly

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<v Speaker 2>prepping for the last two hours. But luckily for us,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no shortage of things to talk about. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>definitely going to start with Indiana, though you guys know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm from well, my family and I are from Gary, Indiana.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in California. Now I'm not from there, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a native Indiana and but I'm married into Gary

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<v Speaker 2>and we lived there for ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband was born and raised. Their family still.

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<v Speaker 2>There and that's where we moved to California from. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you guys know, they're in Indianapolis and Indiana and

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<v Speaker 2>probably by now across the rest of these United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary's been without power for two weeks after an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>storm hit northwest Indiana area, and just too quickly. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure Tony's been talking about this a bit at least,

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<v Speaker 2>but just to quickly get you up to date on

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on there, it's everybody else is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>restored around there, but Gary, and I think parts of

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<v Speaker 2>Hammond and Munster are still without power. We talked to

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle through a third family member who's a senior citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>My aunt and uncle lived there and we have they're seniors.

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<v Speaker 2>Were like, how are you guys doing? And my uncle said,

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<v Speaker 2>we have no intention of leaving or stuff. It's summertime.

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<v Speaker 3>There, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no ac no fans. You know, it's miserable. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, we're not leaving because if we leave, there's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be nothing to come back to because the

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<v Speaker 2>roving gangs of home invaders and thieves and gang members

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<v Speaker 2>are going to come into this house. And believe me,

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle is strapped. He's like old school Gary. He

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<v Speaker 2>is strapped. So he is like, I'm not leave this because.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to come in. They're going to take everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's part of what's going on in Gary, and

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<v Speaker 2>per usual, the leadership of Gary is blaming everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>but themselves. Now, I'm not saying that that NIPSCO doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the power company. If you're listening outside of Gary

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<v Speaker 2>or outside of Indiana, I'm not saying NIPSCO has no culpability.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, I'm in California and we we can share

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<v Speaker 2>our own horror stories about the power companies, the things

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<v Speaker 2>that they get away with, and they're twisted relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>local government. I'm more than one hundred percent sure Nipscoe

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of culpability here. But some things are

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<v Speaker 2>outside your control, especially as a mayor or if you

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<v Speaker 2>are a local elected. Some things are outside of your control,

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<v Speaker 2>and but some things are inside of your control. And

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<v Speaker 2>one thing you can do is make sure that your

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<v Speaker 2>city is prepared for emergency. You have the proper emergency

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<v Speaker 2>response set up. Cities, larger cities and cities that are

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<v Speaker 2>well run, although I'm not quite sure where those cities

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<v Speaker 2>are anymore, but well run towns and cities, they have contingencies,

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<v Speaker 2>just like our nation has contingency plans. There's an entire

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<v Speaker 2>group of people whose job it is in the American

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<v Speaker 2>government to just game out every contingency plan, alien invasion,

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<v Speaker 2>tsunami that engulfs the entire continental United States, rain that

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<v Speaker 2>never stops, massifire, coups, corruption.

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<v Speaker 3>They have game plans for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's their job, and that's what a city needs to

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<v Speaker 2>do as well, especially a city that is on Lake Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>one of our great lakes. That is the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>that is so sad to me about Gary. Gary has

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<v Speaker 2>no excuse to be the way that it is. It

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<v Speaker 2>has every resource available to it. It is thirty miles

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<v Speaker 2>from one of our major cities, Chicago, it sits directly

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<v Speaker 2>on Lake Michigan. It has access to all of the

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<v Speaker 2>resources of that area. The steel mills closed many years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but some are still operating, so it has access to

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<v Speaker 2>some work, but it has access to Chicago, where there's

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<v Speaker 2>tons of work. The architecture is amazing. I wouldn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>suggest you take a stroll through Gary, but if you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be riding through Gary, stay in your car,

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<v Speaker 2>but also take a look at the crumbling architecture. My

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<v Speaker 2>husband and I bought our first home there and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful home, nineteen twenties brick corner lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a gorgeous home, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Sat right in the middle of the hood and so

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't count as a gorgeous home and wasn't classified as

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<v Speaker 2>a gorgeous home, not tax wise. I'm saying that Gary

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<v Speaker 2>has everything it needs to be successful. What it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have is good leadership. And I've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the leadership in Gary and in other places on the

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<v Speaker 2>left talking about how, oh, isn't it a coincidence that

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<v Speaker 2>Gary is one hundred percent black. The mayor's black, every

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<v Speaker 2>single person in government, every single person in government is black.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I ever met a white person

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<v Speaker 2>working in Gary government. And I worked with alongside the

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<v Speaker 2>Gary government when I lived there because I ran an

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<v Speaker 2>after school program. That's what made me a conservative, y'all. Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana is the place that made me a conservative. I

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<v Speaker 2>was a mindless liberal when I got married and went

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've always been community oriented.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been you know, my that's my faith right

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<v Speaker 2>says you served your community.

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<v Speaker 3>So I immediately jumped in to community.

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<v Speaker 2>Service when I got there, and when I got to

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<v Speaker 2>see how all of the things that I was voting

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<v Speaker 2>for all these years, I mean I was very young,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't that many years.

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<v Speaker 3>I was twenty four when I got married.

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<v Speaker 2>But I saw all of the things that I had

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<v Speaker 2>been voting for, and I got to see how those

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<v Speaker 2>policies work up close and in real time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>realized they don't work. And it started making me look

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<v Speaker 2>at things differently. I realized I was wrong. Education is

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<v Speaker 2>where it started, because that's what I was doing. And

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<v Speaker 2>what I realized every way, all the ways we were

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<v Speaker 2>approaching education was actually hobbling these kids, hobbling our black children,

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<v Speaker 2>and Gary hobbling them. I realized, oh, I've been wrong

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<v Speaker 2>about this, and it started me thinking about, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>else was I wrong about this? Is why people This

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<v Speaker 2>is why a paradigm shift is so rare for people

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<v Speaker 2>because of most I'm going to venture to say, most

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<v Speaker 2>people do not have the capacity to retroactively catch their

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<v Speaker 2>morals up or values up if they have a paradigm shift.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why the brain fights so hard against absorbing

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<v Speaker 2>new information, conflicting information, information that might change how things look.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why, because it's a domino of right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you allow it to happen, then you start thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about all of the other day. That's why during COVID

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't let us even whisper the idea of natural immunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you start talking about natural immunity, then you start

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<v Speaker 2>talking about vitamin C, vitamin D, how you can protect yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you start thinking about all of the different ways

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<v Speaker 2>the government says they are protecting you or can protect you,

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<v Speaker 2>but really doesn't they actually prevent you from protecting, from

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<v Speaker 2>being protected and protecting yourself. So it just starts this

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<v Speaker 2>cascade that of knowledge or revelation that a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people can't handle. So Gary, really, Gary Indiana, is why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting on this mic today.

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<v Speaker 3>That is no lie.

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<v Speaker 2>If not for Gary Indiana, I probably would not be

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<v Speaker 2>filling in for Tony Katz today. But Gary, Indiana made

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<v Speaker 2>me into a conservative. And what they do is every

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<v Speaker 2>election cycle the same, the usual suspects come out. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually wrote about this on Acts go to my ex

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<v Speaker 2>out the same, the usual suspects come out. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary's almost one hundred percent black on paper, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like seven or eight percent Lutino and a few

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<v Speaker 2>white people. The white people live in Miller, everybody. If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to see what Gary's real problem is, go

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<v Speaker 2>and look at the beachside enclave of Miller, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a cute, cool little town. I think it's it's having

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<v Speaker 2>trouble as always with the leadership, but that's where the

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<v Speaker 2>white folks live, or people who have some kind of money.

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<v Speaker 2>They live in Miller. It's right on the beach. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a little beachside town. It's gorgeous and the people there

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<v Speaker 2>have so far been able to withstand a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure from the Gary government. But the Gary government

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<v Speaker 2>is always punishing Miller because they're the only ones who

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<v Speaker 2>really pay taxes. And it happens to be divided by

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<v Speaker 2>a highway. Now I don't think it always was, but

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<v Speaker 2>a freeway came through there, and it's divided from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of Gary, so it's got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a different vibe, not totally, but a little bit. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what Gary could be, Miller, is what Gary could be.

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<v Speaker 2>But every election cycle, the usual suspects come out, and

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<v Speaker 2>even though everything's all black there and everyone who runs

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<v Speaker 2>everything is black, the usual suspects come out and they say,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to protect Gary from the white man. We

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<v Speaker 2>gotta protect Gary from the Republicans. There's no Republicans in Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, running we got to protect Gary

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<v Speaker 2>from the Republicans. We got to protect Gary from Pick

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<v Speaker 2>your president, pick your governor, pick your local leaders that

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<v Speaker 2>are in the news. The narrative always is the white

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<v Speaker 2>people are coming for our black town and if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't elect us, they're gonna come and change the city.

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<v Speaker 2>And the city needs to be changed, right, But that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they run on. And the few people who vote,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think it's that many. I've never looked

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<v Speaker 2>at their turnout numbers. But the few people that vote,

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<v Speaker 2>they just they fall for the banana and the tailpipe

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<v Speaker 2>every time. They're just electing and re electing the same

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<v Speaker 2>people over and over. Again, Gary's dysfunction is its own issue,

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<v Speaker 2>its own problem. It doesn't have anything to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the governor, the president, or any white people. In my estimation,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to continue this train of thought, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a quick break. I'm Kia Davis filling it for

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Katz. You're listening to Tony Katz Today. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody too, Tony Katz Today, I'm your guest host, Kia Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>stepping in for Tony. I to run out and take

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<v Speaker 2>care of a commitment, but I'll be with you for

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the show. Check me out on x

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<v Speaker 2>at Kira Davis. Go buy my book Drawing Lines, Why

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<v Speaker 2>Conservatives Must begin to battle fiercely in the Arena of Ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote it in twenty twenty two, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's ever been more relevant than it is at

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<v Speaker 2>this very moment, because it is a whole book about

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<v Speaker 2>how you can get engaged right where you are the

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<v Speaker 2>issues that you should be concerned about, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>plethora of them, so you have a lot to choose from.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's really encouraging everybody to become a soldier in

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<v Speaker 2>this war we really are battling.

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<v Speaker 3>For the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing has proven that to mean more than the very

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<v Speaker 2>strange discussion we've been having lately around the Lindsey Clancy

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<v Speaker 2>trial and the murder of our children in postpartum depression.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get to that in the next segment,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do want to finish up my thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>Gary here. I was just talking about how it is

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent black and black leadership and one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent failure all of the time when I lived there,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary public schools almost all of them lost their national accreditation.

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<v Speaker 2>That means they were not accredited schools. They were failing.

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<v Speaker 2>The state tried to take over Gary three different times

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<v Speaker 2>in my time in Gary, but each time.

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<v Speaker 3>The city would pitch a fit.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd start screaming about racism and the state would back off. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing changes for the residents. Everything gets worse. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to so I wrote a little diatribe on x about

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<v Speaker 2>why Gary is falling apart. I said, Gary is our

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<v Speaker 2>former hometown. Let me tell you why they are still

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<v Speaker 2>without power. People keep shooting at the NIPSCO trucks, roving

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<v Speaker 2>gangs of thieves and home invaders, and limited police presence.

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<v Speaker 2>Infrastructure is poorly maintained, untrimmed trees are making access to

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<v Speaker 2>power lines difficult, Damaged streets and sidewalks, abandoned buildings everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>City leadership has been hopelessly lazy and corrupt for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Many like the new mirror, but he has clearly not

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<v Speaker 2>prepared the city for emergency. Our senior citizen uncle is

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<v Speaker 2>there and refuses to leave his home because he knows

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<v Speaker 2>if he leaves there will be nothing to come back to.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone there is at the mercy of criminals, the weather,

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<v Speaker 2>and a chronically incompetent local government. It may also interest

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<v Speaker 2>you to know that Gary is considered the bluest city

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<v Speaker 2>in America. Yes, it's actually a title that the News

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<v Speaker 2>gives Gary during each election cycle when they're waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana returns to come in next time, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>notice them say it. They just watch MSNBC or something

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever or MS SNOW whatever they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Now watch them.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll tell you, Oh, we're waiting. They're always waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>the Gary returns. Right, of course, they're always That's always

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<v Speaker 2>the last place to return because they need to know

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<v Speaker 2>how many, how much numbers they need to make up

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<v Speaker 2>When the rest of Indiana has weighed in, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>always the last to return. And then you'll always hear

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<v Speaker 2>some talking heads say, oh, it's the bluest city in America.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something like one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, ninety nine percent Democrat registration is just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>They have nearly total Democrat support. I'm not one to

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<v Speaker 2>defend the power companies. Nipskoe has their own issues, but

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<v Speaker 2>the reason Gary is still offline is because most of

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<v Speaker 2>the people there keep voting for more of the same

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<v Speaker 2>at every turn. The city has everything it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be a great city. It's on Lake Michigan, has incredible architecture,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just thirty miles from Chicago. It lost a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of revenue on the steel mills closed, but there has

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<v Speaker 2>never been a good reason for its failure decade after decade.

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<v Speaker 2>It's poor leadership and a disengaged population. It's not racism,

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<v Speaker 2>it's apathy and thievery. We literally have no one to

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<v Speaker 2>blame for Gary's condition except ourselves black people. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the truth that I saw with my own eyes that

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<v Speaker 2>my husband's family lived their entire lives. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>went into leadership there, when I went into community service there,

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked at the amount of people who really

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<v Speaker 2>did worked in government, who really didn't care if the

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<v Speaker 2>city got better. They really did not want to help

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<v Speaker 2>anyone help the city. For them, it was a power trip.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you this is how dysfunctional government, period is.

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<v Speaker 2>I always use this story a lot when I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about dysfunctional government, why everything costs so much in government.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is Gary at its finest.

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<v Speaker 2>So for a while, for a short while, I did

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<v Speaker 2>some temp work there and I worked in I think

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<v Speaker 2>the unemployment office, one of the government offices downtown, just

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<v Speaker 2>a few days a week. And that office was staffed

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<v Speaker 2>to the max for a city of sixty to seventy

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people. They had way too many employees. Worse, those

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<v Speaker 2>employees did nothing. They were on the internet all day.

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<v Speaker 2>I would sit there and just watch them just surf

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<v Speaker 2>the net all day. And maybe not even because they

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<v Speaker 2>were lazy, they probably literally had nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>They were just hired.

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<v Speaker 2>So one day I was working the front desk and

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<v Speaker 2>I was in charge of ordering supplies and a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the men that worked there, came to me.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I want some headphones, new headphones for my computer.

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<v Speaker 2>And he gave me the office Max catalog. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>order them out of here. He said, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch my videos. That's what we said, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to watch my videos. Well, the cheapest pair of headphones

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<v Speaker 2>in the catalog was one hundred and fifty dollars at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, that's what was. They were professional headphones. So

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<v Speaker 2>I said, this is a lot of money for a

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<v Speaker 2>pair of headphones. Do you want me to just take

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<v Speaker 2>petty cash, run across the street to Family Dollar and get.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a five dollars pair. How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this is taxpayer money. And he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want a cheap pair of headphones. Order the

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<v Speaker 2>ones out of the book. So I wasn't even allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to run directly across the street pick up a pair

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<v Speaker 2>of five dollars headphones.

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<v Speaker 3>So this man could watch his YouTube videos at work.

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<v Speaker 2>The taxpayers had to pay one hundred and fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for him to have headphones to watch YouTube at work.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the extent of the corruption in a place like Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that's not the only place, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really opened my eyes to a lot And even when

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<v Speaker 2>my husband and I were doing charity work there and

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<v Speaker 2>we were trying to set up a charity.

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<v Speaker 3>We're trying to set.

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<v Speaker 2>Up an after school program, and we were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>set up like scholarships for kids to go to some

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<v Speaker 2>of the private schools there.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a lot of work there. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do like reinvestment and development work there. While we were there,

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<v Speaker 3>we hit a blockade at every corner. There was always

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<v Speaker 3>some that won there to block us.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the former mayor Richard Hatcher of Indiana, of.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary, Indiana, got in our business. At one point. It

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<v Speaker 3>was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't if you wanted to do something good, there

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<v Speaker 2>was somebody there to tell you around every corner why

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't do it and why the city did not

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<v Speaker 2>want to participate in it. And every election cycle they

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<v Speaker 2>came out and they say, oh, white people are they

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to ruin this city. Gary's a black city.

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<v Speaker 2>The politicians say that so proudly, and it's failing, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's failing at.

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<v Speaker 3>Citizens right now.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason why people should be hungry, hot and

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<v Speaker 2>at risk sitting in this town that is on Lake Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty miles from Chicago.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Resources there immediately. The National Guard has been deployed.

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<v Speaker 3>It is. I think only about seventy guardsmen right now.

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<v Speaker 2>What they really need is for a full accouterment of

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<v Speaker 2>the National Guard to be there, to start studying the streets,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure people can move about freely.

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<v Speaker 3>Because people can't even leave their homes to go get gas.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to go outside the city to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't even leave their homes to get gas because

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<v Speaker 2>if you leave for too long, someone's coming in and

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<v Speaker 2>taking your stuff. It's crazy, man, But it's not the

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<v Speaker 2>white man's fault. Gary is responsible for its own problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I got more coming up. We got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kira Davis filling in for Tony Kats today. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back everybody to Tony Katz today. Tira Davis here filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for my friend Tony Katz, coming to you live

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<v Speaker 2>from southern California.

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<v Speaker 3>So glad to be in the mic with you. Tony

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<v Speaker 3>just had to scoot out.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry, I got you as always well. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just sharing a little bit of my Gary experience and

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<v Speaker 2>why the city of Gary, it has only has itself

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<v Speaker 2>to blame. You can't blame the power company, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you excuse me. You can blame the power company to

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<v Speaker 2>some extent, they have a monopoly it. Yeah, they they're

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<v Speaker 2>not the greatest. But that being said, any functioning American

0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.399
<v Speaker 2>city should be able to withstand a period of emergency. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>what is the point of your government? What is the

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<v Speaker 2>point the city should be able to rally make sure

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's got gas generators. You know, for all the taxes

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<v Speaker 2>that people pay in that town, and the taxes are

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<v Speaker 2>are not commiserate with the income level.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say that.

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<v Speaker 2>The former mayor or the mayor who is the mayor

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<v Speaker 2>when I was.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was leaving Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Rudy Clay, and Rudy in a city that was

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<v Speaker 2>so poor it it couldn't afford to fix potholes. A

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<v Speaker 2>city of sixty thousand, sixty to seventy thousand people like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a really empty town. Mayor Clay had a detail

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<v Speaker 2>of three navigate Lincoln navigator SUVs and six personal bodyguards

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<v Speaker 2>six on the city for the mayor of Gary.

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<v Speaker 3>Six. So that money is the money is there, it's

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<v Speaker 3>being sucked up by the political class.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, they can't go and build a transformer, which

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<v Speaker 2>apparently is what Nipsko is needing to do, rebuild transformers

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<v Speaker 2>and that takes a while. Yes, I understand they cannot

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<v Speaker 2>go build the transformers, but they can make sure their

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<v Speaker 2>city is safe for Nipsko workers to come into. If

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<v Speaker 2>you go to my ex feed and you read the

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<v Speaker 2>post I made about Gary, you're gonna see dozens of

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<v Speaker 2>comments underneath saying, yeah, I used to work for Nipscoe,

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<v Speaker 2>or I used to work in repair and Gary, or

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I used to drive through Gary on my way to work.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know when I worked at Nipscoe, no one wants.

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<v Speaker 2>No one wanted to be on the crew to go

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<v Speaker 2>into Gary for decades. These people are saying this one

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:03.080
<v Speaker 2>he said from the sixties, this was going on. If

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<v Speaker 2>no one ever wanted to go into Gary, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>complete failure of leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's a leadership problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You can at least make your streets safe to get

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<v Speaker 2>people in there to help, so this is not And

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<v Speaker 2>then and then just now, as I was on X

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading a post from Justin Pearson, who is

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<v Speaker 2>the weird cause player black power kid from Memphis.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the he's got the afro, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing the black power thing when they were redistricting, and

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<v Speaker 2>just a skinny little nerd you know, who grew an

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<v Speaker 2>afro and then suddenly became mister Black Power.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's still out there talking, even.

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<v Speaker 2>Though he got redistricted out, He's still out there talking.

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<v Speaker 3>He says.

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<v Speaker 2>After a thunderstorm last night, one hundred thousand households and

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis are without power, possibly until Thursday. It's ninety degrees outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Another majority black, working class city left in the dark. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's almost there, right, He's almost got it. Yeah, Why

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<v Speaker 2>do Why isn't the majority black cities that are without power,

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<v Speaker 2>that are failing, that can't seem to rebound quickly from emergencies.

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Is it that there isn't the mysterious force.

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<v Speaker 2>Of racism from outside the boundaries of these of these cities,

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<v Speaker 2>or could it possibly have anything to do with the

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<v Speaker 2>leadership of these cities. I don't know how controversial I

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 2>can get on Tony Show. I don't want to drive

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<v Speaker 2>people away, but I do think we I do think

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<v Speaker 2>we have an issue black people with governance.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I always point people back to this little I saw

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<v Speaker 2>this little video when I was in college. I was

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<v Speaker 2>doing a report and I was still liberal by the

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<v Speaker 2>way at this time, I was doing a report on

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<v Speaker 2>civil rights movement and I was going back through the

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<v Speaker 2>archives in my university of civil rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Recordings and videos, and I saw this report. Ever seen

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<v Speaker 3>it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it was tucked into, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was Stokely Carmichael, who was one of the leaders of

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<v Speaker 2>the founding leaders of the student led civil rights movement,

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<v Speaker 2>went on to be he changed his name to an

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>African name, moved to Liberia or something. He got really

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>radical towards the end, but in the beginning he actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Made a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a clip of him saying, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that we should rush into running for office.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we have just secured these voting protections, we've just

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<v Speaker 2>secured equal protection, all of this stuff, but we have

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<v Speaker 2>not been trained in the proper way to interact with

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<v Speaker 2>government or like we haven't been allowed to and so

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>we need to train ourselves properly so that when we

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<v Speaker 2>get in there, we can be effective and not just

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<v Speaker 2>become a part of the organism. But no one heeded

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>his warning, and that's what happened. We have the Black

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Congressional Caucus. What the hell do they do?

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<v Speaker 3>What do they do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Has advanced black rights, black awareness, black success, prosperity.

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<v Speaker 3>What have they done for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I talk to a black person about being Republican,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, what has the Republican Party done for you? Okay,

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess I could say the same thing because Gary

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<v Speaker 2>votes one hundred percent Democrat, Memphis votes one hundred percent Democrat.

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<v Speaker 3>What have they done for you? What have Democrats done

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<v Speaker 3>for you?

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>They've done nothing but just trade on our fears and

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>our insecurities and our desperation, and they have brought nothing

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<v Speaker 2>in return. I don't want the Republican Party to do

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<v Speaker 2>anything for me. I want I want them to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of my way. That's what I want. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to elect government officials who will get out of my

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<v Speaker 2>way and leave me the hell alone.

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't want a party to do anything for me.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's another part of the problem we have here

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, in the black community, because every bad

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 2>idea starts there, Every bad experiment goes there where the

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<v Speaker 2>canary and the coal mine. Always every bad experiment starts there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's expanding out, just like I told you it would.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't pay attention to what was happening to us

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<v Speaker 3>in our.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Cities Republican Party, and you didn't fight for those cities.

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<v Speaker 2>This was going to spread out to the larger population,

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.959
<v Speaker 2>and now it has. And now we are facing an

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<v Speaker 2>election cycle in which the Democrat Socialists of America are

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<v Speaker 2>actually making a play for real government offices, for real control.

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:38.119
<v Speaker 2>They're out there saying the most absurd things, the craziest things.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's because we have not fought for people in

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 2>desperate places like Gary. We have just hands off. Oh

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 2>you know what, we can't compete in Gary. We're not

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>even going to put any effort or any money in there.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I talked to a guy in my podcast once, Devin Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>He runs or did, I don't know if he's still

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<v Speaker 2>there the south Side Chicago Republicans. He applied for a

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<v Speaker 2>national I don't know if you get like accredited or

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>something from the RNC. He applied for that to be

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<v Speaker 2>an official office. They turned him down because they said

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<v Speaker 2>the south Side is not worth our efforts or the

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>money it will cost. So he opened the office himself

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and he started basically just doing community service. Now we

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>look at what's happening to the South Side and all

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 2>of Chicago. They are being overwhelmed by the DSA. Obama

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>came and plopped down a monstrous He calls it a library.

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I call it an idol.

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I think someday we're going to find out way more

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>sinister things about that place. It looks sinister because it

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>is sinister. We should pay attention to how things look

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and what they're called. I think about this a lot.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Should think about what we name things that means something.

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But look at that we and now these people are desperate.

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>These are people who are ripe for political upheaval. They

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 2>are ripe for the picking. Really when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>ideas and values. If someone can come in and offer

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<v Speaker 2>a good solution, they're ripe for it.

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 3>But the GOP is not there.

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Who's there the DSA, and they have nothing but bad intentions.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>But we black people let our cities fall into disrepair.

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.959
<v Speaker 2>We elect people who we elect traders, people who betray

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 2>their own people by stealing from us and not giving

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>what we have asked for. We elect these people, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when the city falls apart, the socialists come in

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and say, oh, this is definitely the white man's fault.

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Probably what you need is free health care. Probably what

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.159
<v Speaker 2>you need is more project housing. Probably what you need

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>is fewer police and more social workers. And even if

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>people don't think that's what they're voting for, because a

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of times these people don't announce themselves, it's what

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>they end up voting for, it's what they end up getting.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 3>We need to be paying attention to both.

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>The degradation and desperation of our inner cities and what

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>the DSA is doing.

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 3>And I dare say say they're connected. And I dare

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 3>say this is all on purpose that the.

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>People who govern our inner cities like Gary, Indiana and

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Memphis are instructed or just culturalized into decline. The idea

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>is that you make people miserable. And I say this

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>all the time on my own show. Go to j

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>just Kira Davis dot com or go look me up

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>on X. I say this all the time on my podcast.

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>The misery is the point. Miserable people are easier to control.

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 2>And look what's going on in Gary. All of those

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 2>people they're they're lining up for services. My uncle and

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>his wife, they're not lining up for services. They are

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>helping their neighbors. They're helping themselves. Other people have come

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 2>in to help them. They have had offers from people

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>outside the city to help them.

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>That's community response. Gary is a broken community.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>And while there are some community leaders who are helping

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and doing their very level best, there aren't enough of them.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>There aren't enough of them, and some of the ones

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>who are helping are not really helping because they're just

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>blaming all outside forces instead of saying, we need to

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 2>fix this within our own boundaries. We can no longer

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>blame other people. But socialism is based on envy. It

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 2>is an envy based system, and Black people we have

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>been socialized into socialism across this country. It's even in

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>our churches. It's even in our worship. The Black church

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>has been infected with the idea of socialism. And socialism

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>is an evil concept and it infantilizes people and it

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>makes us dependent. Think about what they did with Martin

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>during the Alabama bus riots. That's actually a great story

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 2>of how a community can band together for an extended

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>period of time to affect change. Those people couldn't depend

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>on the government, and so you know what they didn't.

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>They boycotted the buses. How did they get around, How

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>did they get to their jobs? People offered their own cars,

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>They started collecting money for gas, they started private taxi services.

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>They started advertising in their own communities. Hey, this person

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 2>can get you to work. This person's going back and

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 2>forth here. And they did it for not months, they

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>did it for almost two years before they got what

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 2>they wanted, that was a black community. They didn't quit work,

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>They still went to work. They didn't quit life. They

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:31.959
<v Speaker 2>still you know, lived life. But they organized to protect

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>themselves and to affect change. What has happened between then

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>and now. Socialism. Socialism, that's what's happened. And Black people

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>in America have become a socialist people and it's literally

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 2>killing us. Now, all right, let's take let's take another break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. I'm Kia David's filling it for

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Kats. You're listening to Tony Kats Today. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest host, Kia Davis,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>filling in for Tony. I know you started the show

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>with him, but you're going to end the show with me,

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>so you're welcome. Now.

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>He'll be back, but he just had to good own,

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 3>so I pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the mic for him real quick. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at X and the break. I don't have this

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 2>clip for you, but maybe you want to go find it.

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>But it is a clip of Joe Biden speaking last night.

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<v Speaker 2>He was somewhere, he was in South Carolina and he

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>let's see this clip says breaking. Joe Biden just tried

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>to tell a crowd that he closed the border, not

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. The room went dead, silent, even a room

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 2>packed with Democrats knows as a flat outlie.

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>You can't make this up.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at the video of Joe talking and he

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>looks as blank faced as you would imagine.

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Why is he still out there?

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>What are they doing? I think it's the money. I

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>think they're broke. We think of these people as wealthy,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>but they're not. They depend on the ever flowing stream

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 2>of tax dollars. But the Biden's left and such grace,

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>they're broke now. So I guess they're just wheeling him out.

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<v Speaker 2>I just and who's going to see him? That's the

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>other thing, not only is why is he talking? Who

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>is going out and spending time, precious time, money and

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>energy to go see him? It's so bizarre. Do we

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have time to play this DSA clip?

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<v Speaker 3>Christian?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play this clip from the DSA Zoom

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<v Speaker 2>because it's very important given what I was just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about about socialism and the DSA coming in and taking

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>advantage of all the desperation in these cities. But there

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<v Speaker 2>is a Zoom meeting the other night, and they really

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>are not secret about what their intentions are for our nation.

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And this is why you really have to take them seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>And I as you listen, I want you to think

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>about all of the incidences of violence you have seen

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>come across your social media feed in the last few months,

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and then listen to what they're saying.

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead and play this.

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<v Speaker 4>We have seen that the Democratic party establishment that we

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 4>have has to be ripped out. We can actually start

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 4>to grab hold of the ship of state and steer

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 4>it in our direction. But it's going to be a

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, violent process.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 5>Our country needs to change and this Democratic Party needs

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<v Speaker 5>to change. I was more than glad to go on

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 5>Hassan's stream. This is we need as democrats, We need

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 5>to go into these spaces.

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Israel has a plan of creating a greater Israel in

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<v Speaker 4>the Middle East, and.

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 6>Eritz Israel would require Israel to expand quad quintuple its

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<v Speaker 6>size by eating up half of Lebanon, parts of Iraq,

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.720
<v Speaker 6>parts of Egypt, most of Jordan, parts of Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not an accident that the same people that will

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<v Speaker 4>take the APAC money take all the other money too,

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 4>you know where they're messaging each other like, oh, there's

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 4>a war over year, won't that be profitable for us?

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<v Speaker 3>What if we started some instability over there?

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<v Speaker 5>IPAC doesn't care about democracy. APAC cares about what APAC

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<v Speaker 5>cares about, which is the corporate interest, the billionaire class,

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:01.480
<v Speaker 5>and perpetuating this US colony in the Middle East that

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 5>is only able to exist with our taxpayer support.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you wonder why anti Semitism is spreading

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 2>so fast in this country, here, it is. And it's

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 2>not just the Democrats socialists, right, it's the Muslims. It's

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Islam that we've been letting, you know, seep into our

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>country for since nine to eleven, really, and that comes

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>with anti Semitism. But also so does the violent So

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:33.040
<v Speaker 2>does the message and the culture of violence. So when

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you look around and you feel like things are deteriorating,

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that's on purpose. The misery is the point. Stay vigilant.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take a break. I'll be back in

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>the next hour with much more. I'll be taking you

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<v Speaker 2>all the way home. I'm Kira Davis filling in for

0:35:49.239 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Tony Kats, and you're listening to Tony Kats today