Speaker 1: Live from Vaal, Heartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody to Tony Katz Today.
Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome everybody.
Speaker 2: You can probably tell this is Tony, this is Kia Davis.
Speaker 2: He needed somebody to step in really quick while he
Speaker 2: ran out to take care of some other commitments. But
Speaker 2: luckily he's always got me in the pocket. Kia Davis
Speaker 2: coming to you live from southern California. It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: You guys know me by now. It's always a pleasure
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Speaker 2: see all the stories I'm working on, all the things
Speaker 2: that I do, and I fill in for radio across
Speaker 2: the entire country. But TKT is one of my favorite shows,
Speaker 2: So I'm not quite sure what you guys have been
Speaker 2: talking about in the first hour. I was busy quickly
Speaker 2: prepping for the last two hours. But luckily for us,
Speaker 2: there is no shortage of things to talk about. I'm
Speaker 2: definitely going to start with Indiana, though you guys know
Speaker 2: that I'm from well, my family and I are from Gary, Indiana.
Speaker 2: We live in California. Now I'm not from there, I'm
Speaker 2: not a native Indiana and but I'm married into Gary
Speaker 2: and we lived there for ten years.
Speaker 3: My husband was born and raised. Their family still.
Speaker 2: There and that's where we moved to California from. And
Speaker 2: as you guys know, they're in Indianapolis and Indiana and
Speaker 2: probably by now across the rest of these United States.
Speaker 2: Gary's been without power for two weeks after an incredible
Speaker 2: storm hit northwest Indiana area, and just too quickly. I'm
Speaker 2: sure Tony's been talking about this a bit at least,
Speaker 2: but just to quickly get you up to date on
Speaker 2: what's going on there, it's everybody else is pretty much
Speaker 2: restored around there, but Gary, and I think parts of
Speaker 2: Hammond and Munster are still without power. We talked to
Speaker 2: my uncle through a third family member who's a senior citizen.
Speaker 2: My aunt and uncle lived there and we have they're seniors.
Speaker 2: Were like, how are you guys doing? And my uncle said,
Speaker 2: we have no intention of leaving or stuff. It's summertime.
Speaker 3: There, y'all.
Speaker 2: There's no ac no fans. You know, it's miserable. And
Speaker 2: he said, we're not leaving because if we leave, there's
Speaker 2: going to be nothing to come back to because the
Speaker 2: roving gangs of home invaders and thieves and gang members
Speaker 2: are going to come into this house. And believe me,
Speaker 2: my uncle is strapped. He's like old school Gary. He
Speaker 2: is strapped. So he is like, I'm not leave this because.
Speaker 3: They're going to come in. They're going to take everything.
Speaker 2: And that's part of what's going on in Gary, and
Speaker 2: per usual, the leadership of Gary is blaming everybody else
Speaker 2: but themselves. Now, I'm not saying that that NIPSCO doesn't have.
Speaker 2: That's the power company. If you're listening outside of Gary
Speaker 2: or outside of Indiana, I'm not saying NIPSCO has no culpability.
Speaker 2: My goodness, I'm in California and we we can share
Speaker 2: our own horror stories about the power companies, the things
Speaker 2: that they get away with, and they're twisted relationship with
Speaker 2: local government. I'm more than one hundred percent sure Nipscoe
Speaker 2: has a lot of culpability here. But some things are
Speaker 2: outside your control, especially as a mayor or if you
Speaker 2: are a local elected. Some things are outside of your control,
Speaker 2: and but some things are inside of your control. And
Speaker 2: one thing you can do is make sure that your
Speaker 2: city is prepared for emergency. You have the proper emergency
Speaker 2: response set up. Cities, larger cities and cities that are
Speaker 2: well run, although I'm not quite sure where those cities
Speaker 2: are anymore, but well run towns and cities, they have contingencies,
Speaker 2: just like our nation has contingency plans. There's an entire
Speaker 2: group of people whose job it is in the American
Speaker 2: government to just game out every contingency plan, alien invasion,
Speaker 2: tsunami that engulfs the entire continental United States, rain that
Speaker 2: never stops, massifire, coups, corruption.
Speaker 3: They have game plans for everything.
Speaker 2: That's their job, and that's what a city needs to
Speaker 2: do as well, especially a city that is on Lake Michigan,
Speaker 2: one of our great lakes. That is the other thing
Speaker 2: that is so sad to me about Gary. Gary has
Speaker 2: no excuse to be the way that it is. It
Speaker 2: has every resource available to it. It is thirty miles
Speaker 2: from one of our major cities, Chicago, it sits directly
Speaker 2: on Lake Michigan. It has access to all of the
Speaker 2: resources of that area. The steel mills closed many years ago,
Speaker 2: but some are still operating, so it has access to
Speaker 2: some work, but it has access to Chicago, where there's
Speaker 2: tons of work. The architecture is amazing. I wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 2: suggest you take a stroll through Gary, but if you
Speaker 2: happen to be riding through Gary, stay in your car,
Speaker 2: but also take a look at the crumbling architecture. My
Speaker 2: husband and I bought our first home there and it's
Speaker 2: a beautiful home, nineteen twenties brick corner lot.
Speaker 3: Just a gorgeous home, but.
Speaker 2: Sat right in the middle of the hood and so
Speaker 2: wouldn't count as a gorgeous home and wasn't classified as
Speaker 2: a gorgeous home, not tax wise. I'm saying that Gary
Speaker 2: has everything it needs to be successful. What it doesn't
Speaker 2: have is good leadership. And I've seen a lot of
Speaker 2: the leadership in Gary and in other places on the
Speaker 2: left talking about how, oh, isn't it a coincidence that
Speaker 2: Gary is one hundred percent black. The mayor's black, every
Speaker 2: single person in government, every single person in government is black.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever met a white person
Speaker 2: working in Gary government. And I worked with alongside the
Speaker 2: Gary government when I lived there because I ran an
Speaker 2: after school program. That's what made me a conservative, y'all. Gary,
Speaker 2: Indiana is the place that made me a conservative. I
Speaker 2: was a mindless liberal when I got married and went
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 3: But I've always been community oriented.
Speaker 2: I've always been you know, my that's my faith right
Speaker 2: says you served your community.
Speaker 3: So I immediately jumped in to community.
Speaker 2: Service when I got there, and when I got to
Speaker 2: see how all of the things that I was voting
Speaker 2: for all these years, I mean I was very young,
Speaker 2: it wasn't that many years.
Speaker 3: I was twenty four when I got married.
Speaker 2: But I saw all of the things that I had
Speaker 2: been voting for, and I got to see how those
Speaker 2: policies work up close and in real time, and I
Speaker 2: realized they don't work. And it started making me look
Speaker 2: at things differently. I realized I was wrong. Education is
Speaker 2: where it started, because that's what I was doing. And
Speaker 2: what I realized every way, all the ways we were
Speaker 2: approaching education was actually hobbling these kids, hobbling our black children,
Speaker 2: and Gary hobbling them. I realized, oh, I've been wrong
Speaker 2: about this, and it started me thinking about, well, what
Speaker 2: else was I wrong about this? Is why people This
Speaker 2: is why a paradigm shift is so rare for people
Speaker 2: because of most I'm going to venture to say, most
Speaker 2: people do not have the capacity to retroactively catch their
Speaker 2: morals up or values up if they have a paradigm shift.
Speaker 2: And that's why the brain fights so hard against absorbing
Speaker 2: new information, conflicting information, information that might change how things look.
Speaker 3: That's why, because it's a domino of right.
Speaker 2: If you allow it to happen, then you start thinking
Speaker 2: about all of the other day. That's why during COVID
Speaker 2: they wouldn't let us even whisper the idea of natural immunity.
Speaker 2: Once you start talking about natural immunity, then you start
Speaker 2: talking about vitamin C, vitamin D, how you can protect yourself.
Speaker 2: Then you start thinking about all of the different ways
Speaker 2: the government says they are protecting you or can protect you,
Speaker 2: but really doesn't they actually prevent you from protecting, from
Speaker 2: being protected and protecting yourself. So it just starts this
Speaker 2: cascade that of knowledge or revelation that a lot of
Speaker 2: people can't handle. So Gary, really, Gary Indiana, is why
Speaker 2: I'm sitting on this mic today.
Speaker 3: That is no lie.
Speaker 2: If not for Gary Indiana, I probably would not be
Speaker 2: filling in for Tony Katz today. But Gary, Indiana made
Speaker 2: me into a conservative. And what they do is every
Speaker 2: election cycle the same, the usual suspects come out. I
Speaker 2: actually wrote about this on Acts go to my ex
Speaker 2: out the same, the usual suspects come out. Now again,
Speaker 2: Gary's almost one hundred percent black on paper, I think
Speaker 2: it's like seven or eight percent Lutino and a few
Speaker 2: white people. The white people live in Miller, everybody. If
Speaker 2: you want to see what Gary's real problem is, go
Speaker 2: and look at the beachside enclave of Miller, which is
Speaker 2: a cute, cool little town. I think it's it's having
Speaker 2: trouble as always with the leadership, but that's where the
Speaker 2: white folks live, or people who have some kind of money.
Speaker 2: They live in Miller. It's right on the beach. It's
Speaker 2: a little beachside town. It's gorgeous and the people there
Speaker 2: have so far been able to withstand a lot of
Speaker 2: the pressure from the Gary government. But the Gary government
Speaker 2: is always punishing Miller because they're the only ones who
Speaker 2: really pay taxes. And it happens to be divided by
Speaker 2: a highway. Now I don't think it always was, but
Speaker 2: a freeway came through there, and it's divided from the
Speaker 2: rest of Gary, so it's got a little bit of
Speaker 2: a different vibe, not totally, but a little bit. And
Speaker 2: that's what Gary could be, Miller, is what Gary could be.
Speaker 2: But every election cycle, the usual suspects come out, and
Speaker 2: even though everything's all black there and everyone who runs
Speaker 2: everything is black, the usual suspects come out and they say,
Speaker 2: we got to protect Gary from the white man. We
Speaker 2: gotta protect Gary from the Republicans. There's no Republicans in Gary,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, running we got to protect Gary
Speaker 2: from the Republicans. We got to protect Gary from Pick
Speaker 2: your president, pick your governor, pick your local leaders that
Speaker 2: are in the news. The narrative always is the white
Speaker 2: people are coming for our black town and if you
Speaker 2: don't elect us, they're gonna come and change the city.
Speaker 2: And the city needs to be changed, right, But that's
Speaker 2: what they run on. And the few people who vote,
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's that many. I've never looked
Speaker 2: at their turnout numbers. But the few people that vote,
Speaker 2: they just they fall for the banana and the tailpipe
Speaker 2: every time. They're just electing and re electing the same
Speaker 2: people over and over. Again, Gary's dysfunction is its own issue,
Speaker 2: its own problem. It doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 2: the governor, the president, or any white people. In my estimation,
Speaker 2: I'm going to continue this train of thought, but let's
Speaker 2: take a quick break. I'm Kia Davis filling it for
Speaker 2: Tony Katz. You're listening to Tony Katz Today. Welcome back,
Speaker 2: everybody too, Tony Katz Today, I'm your guest host, Kia Davis,
Speaker 2: stepping in for Tony. I to run out and take
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Speaker 2: But it's really encouraging everybody to become a soldier in
Speaker 2: this war we really are battling.
Speaker 3: For the culture.
Speaker 2: Nothing has proven that to mean more than the very
Speaker 2: strange discussion we've been having lately around the Lindsey Clancy
Speaker 2: trial and the murder of our children in postpartum depression.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get to that in the next segment,
Speaker 2: but I do want to finish up my thoughts on
Speaker 2: Gary here. I was just talking about how it is
Speaker 2: one hundred percent black and black leadership and one hundred
Speaker 2: percent failure all of the time when I lived there,
Speaker 2: Gary public schools almost all of them lost their national accreditation.
Speaker 2: That means they were not accredited schools. They were failing.
Speaker 2: The state tried to take over Gary three different times
Speaker 2: in my time in Gary, but each time.
Speaker 3: The city would pitch a fit.
Speaker 2: We'd start screaming about racism and the state would back off. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: nothing changes for the residents. Everything gets worse. I wanted
Speaker 2: to so I wrote a little diatribe on x about
Speaker 2: why Gary is falling apart. I said, Gary is our
Speaker 2: former hometown. Let me tell you why they are still
Speaker 2: without power. People keep shooting at the NIPSCO trucks, roving
Speaker 2: gangs of thieves and home invaders, and limited police presence.
Speaker 2: Infrastructure is poorly maintained, untrimmed trees are making access to
Speaker 2: power lines difficult, Damaged streets and sidewalks, abandoned buildings everywhere.
Speaker 2: City leadership has been hopelessly lazy and corrupt for decades.
Speaker 2: Many like the new mirror, but he has clearly not
Speaker 2: prepared the city for emergency. Our senior citizen uncle is
Speaker 2: there and refuses to leave his home because he knows
Speaker 2: if he leaves there will be nothing to come back to.
Speaker 2: Everyone there is at the mercy of criminals, the weather,
Speaker 2: and a chronically incompetent local government. It may also interest
Speaker 2: you to know that Gary is considered the bluest city
Speaker 2: in America. Yes, it's actually a title that the News
Speaker 2: gives Gary during each election cycle when they're waiting for
Speaker 2: Indiana returns to come in next time, you're going to
Speaker 2: notice them say it. They just watch MSNBC or something
Speaker 2: or whatever or MS SNOW whatever they are.
Speaker 3: Now watch them.
Speaker 2: They'll tell you, Oh, we're waiting. They're always waiting for
Speaker 2: the Gary returns. Right, of course, they're always That's always
Speaker 2: the last place to return because they need to know
Speaker 2: how many, how much numbers they need to make up
Speaker 2: When the rest of Indiana has weighed in, so they're
Speaker 2: always the last to return. And then you'll always hear
Speaker 2: some talking heads say, oh, it's the bluest city in America.
Speaker 3: It's something like one.
Speaker 2: You know, ninety nine percent Democrat registration is just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: They have nearly total Democrat support. I'm not one to
Speaker 2: defend the power companies. Nipskoe has their own issues, but
Speaker 2: the reason Gary is still offline is because most of
Speaker 2: the people there keep voting for more of the same
Speaker 2: at every turn. The city has everything it needs to
Speaker 2: be a great city. It's on Lake Michigan, has incredible architecture,
Speaker 2: it's just thirty miles from Chicago. It lost a lot
Speaker 2: of revenue on the steel mills closed, but there has
Speaker 2: never been a good reason for its failure decade after decade.
Speaker 2: It's poor leadership and a disengaged population. It's not racism,
Speaker 2: it's apathy and thievery. We literally have no one to
Speaker 2: blame for Gary's condition except ourselves black people. That is
Speaker 2: the truth that I saw with my own eyes that
Speaker 2: my husband's family lived their entire lives. And when I
Speaker 2: went into leadership there, when I went into community service there,
Speaker 2: I was shocked at the amount of people who really
Speaker 2: did worked in government, who really didn't care if the
Speaker 2: city got better. They really did not want to help
Speaker 2: anyone help the city. For them, it was a power trip.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you this is how dysfunctional government, period is.
Speaker 2: I always use this story a lot when I talk
Speaker 2: about dysfunctional government, why everything costs so much in government.
Speaker 3: But this is Gary at its finest.
Speaker 2: So for a while, for a short while, I did
Speaker 2: some temp work there and I worked in I think
Speaker 2: the unemployment office, one of the government offices downtown, just
Speaker 2: a few days a week. And that office was staffed
Speaker 2: to the max for a city of sixty to seventy
Speaker 2: thousand people. They had way too many employees. Worse, those
Speaker 2: employees did nothing. They were on the internet all day.
Speaker 2: I would sit there and just watch them just surf
Speaker 2: the net all day. And maybe not even because they
Speaker 2: were lazy, they probably literally had nothing to do.
Speaker 3: They were just hired.
Speaker 2: So one day I was working the front desk and
Speaker 2: I was in charge of ordering supplies and a guy,
Speaker 2: one of the men that worked there, came to me.
Speaker 2: He said, I want some headphones, new headphones for my computer.
Speaker 2: And he gave me the office Max catalog. He's like,
Speaker 2: order them out of here. He said, I just want
Speaker 2: to watch my videos. That's what we said, I want
Speaker 2: to watch my videos. Well, the cheapest pair of headphones
Speaker 2: in the catalog was one hundred and fifty dollars at
Speaker 2: the time, that's what was. They were professional headphones. So
Speaker 2: I said, this is a lot of money for a
Speaker 2: pair of headphones. Do you want me to just take
Speaker 2: petty cash, run across the street to Family Dollar and get.
Speaker 3: Like a five dollars pair. How about that?
Speaker 2: Because this is taxpayer money. And he was like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't want a cheap pair of headphones. Order the
Speaker 2: ones out of the book. So I wasn't even allowed
Speaker 2: to run directly across the street pick up a pair
Speaker 2: of five dollars headphones.
Speaker 3: So this man could watch his YouTube videos at work.
Speaker 2: The taxpayers had to pay one hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 2: for him to have headphones to watch YouTube at work.
Speaker 2: That's the extent of the corruption in a place like Gary,
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's not the only place, but it
Speaker 2: really opened my eyes to a lot And even when
Speaker 2: my husband and I were doing charity work there and
Speaker 2: we were trying to set up a charity.
Speaker 3: We're trying to set.
Speaker 2: Up an after school program, and we were trying to
Speaker 2: set up like scholarships for kids to go to some
Speaker 2: of the private schools there.
Speaker 3: We did a lot of work there. We're trying to
Speaker 3: do like reinvestment and development work there. While we were there,
Speaker 3: we hit a blockade at every corner. There was always
Speaker 3: some that won there to block us.
Speaker 2: Even the former mayor Richard Hatcher of Indiana, of.
Speaker 3: Gary, Indiana, got in our business. At one point. It
Speaker 3: was crazy.
Speaker 2: You couldn't if you wanted to do something good, there
Speaker 2: was somebody there to tell you around every corner why
Speaker 2: you couldn't do it and why the city did not
Speaker 2: want to participate in it. And every election cycle they
Speaker 2: came out and they say, oh, white people are they
Speaker 2: They're going to ruin this city. Gary's a black city.
Speaker 2: The politicians say that so proudly, and it's failing, and
Speaker 2: it's failing at.
Speaker 3: Citizens right now.
Speaker 2: There's no reason why people should be hungry, hot and
Speaker 2: at risk sitting in this town that is on Lake Michigan,
Speaker 2: thirty miles from Chicago.
Speaker 3: You should have.
Speaker 2: Resources there immediately. The National Guard has been deployed.
Speaker 3: It is. I think only about seventy guardsmen right now.
Speaker 2: What they really need is for a full accouterment of
Speaker 2: the National Guard to be there, to start studying the streets,
Speaker 2: making sure people can move about freely.
Speaker 3: Because people can't even leave their homes to go get gas.
Speaker 2: You've got to go outside the city to get it.
Speaker 2: They can't even leave their homes to get gas because
Speaker 2: if you leave for too long, someone's coming in and
Speaker 2: taking your stuff. It's crazy, man, But it's not the
Speaker 2: white man's fault. Gary is responsible for its own problems.
Speaker 2: I got more coming up. We got to take a break.
Speaker 2: I'm Kira Davis filling in for Tony Kats today. Welcome
Speaker 2: back everybody to Tony Katz today. Tira Davis here filling
Speaker 2: in for my friend Tony Katz, coming to you live
Speaker 2: from southern California.
Speaker 3: So glad to be in the mic with you. Tony
Speaker 3: just had to scoot out.
Speaker 2: Don't worry, I got you as always well. I was
Speaker 2: just sharing a little bit of my Gary experience and
Speaker 2: why the city of Gary, it has only has itself
Speaker 2: to blame. You can't blame the power company, I mean
Speaker 2: you excuse me. You can blame the power company to
Speaker 2: some extent, they have a monopoly it. Yeah, they they're
Speaker 2: not the greatest. But that being said, any functioning American
Speaker 2: city should be able to withstand a period of emergency. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: what is the point of your government? What is the
Speaker 2: point the city should be able to rally make sure
Speaker 2: everybody's got gas generators. You know, for all the taxes
Speaker 2: that people pay in that town, and the taxes are
Speaker 2: are not commiserate with the income level.
Speaker 3: I'll say that.
Speaker 2: The former mayor or the mayor who is the mayor
Speaker 2: when I was.
Speaker 3: When I was leaving Gary.
Speaker 2: Was Rudy Clay, and Rudy in a city that was
Speaker 2: so poor it it couldn't afford to fix potholes. A
Speaker 2: city of sixty thousand, sixty to seventy thousand people like,
Speaker 2: it's a really empty town. Mayor Clay had a detail
Speaker 2: of three navigate Lincoln navigator SUVs and six personal bodyguards
Speaker 2: six on the city for the mayor of Gary.
Speaker 3: Six. So that money is the money is there, it's
Speaker 3: being sucked up by the political class.
Speaker 2: And yes, they can't go and build a transformer, which
Speaker 2: apparently is what Nipsko is needing to do, rebuild transformers
Speaker 2: and that takes a while. Yes, I understand they cannot
Speaker 2: go build the transformers, but they can make sure their
Speaker 2: city is safe for Nipsko workers to come into. If
Speaker 2: you go to my ex feed and you read the
Speaker 2: post I made about Gary, you're gonna see dozens of
Speaker 2: comments underneath saying, yeah, I used to work for Nipscoe,
Speaker 2: or I used to work in repair and Gary, or
Speaker 2: I used to drive through Gary on my way to work.
Speaker 2: And you know when I worked at Nipscoe, no one wants.
Speaker 2: No one wanted to be on the crew to go
Speaker 2: into Gary for decades. These people are saying this one
Speaker 2: he said from the sixties, this was going on. If
Speaker 2: no one ever wanted to go into Gary, that's a
Speaker 2: complete failure of leadership.
Speaker 3: Right, that's a leadership problem.
Speaker 2: You can at least make your streets safe to get
Speaker 2: people in there to help, so this is not And
Speaker 2: then and then just now, as I was on X
Speaker 2: I was reading a post from Justin Pearson, who is
Speaker 2: the weird cause player black power kid from Memphis.
Speaker 3: You've seen him.
Speaker 2: He's got the he's got the afro, and he was
Speaker 2: doing the black power thing when they were redistricting, and
Speaker 2: just a skinny little nerd you know, who grew an
Speaker 2: afro and then suddenly became mister Black Power.
Speaker 3: And he's still out there talking, even.
Speaker 2: Though he got redistricted out, He's still out there talking.
Speaker 3: He says.
Speaker 2: After a thunderstorm last night, one hundred thousand households and
Speaker 2: Memphis are without power, possibly until Thursday. It's ninety degrees outside.
Speaker 2: Another majority black, working class city left in the dark. Well,
Speaker 2: he's almost there, right, He's almost got it. Yeah, Why
Speaker 2: do Why isn't the majority black cities that are without power,
Speaker 2: that are failing, that can't seem to rebound quickly from emergencies.
Speaker 3: Is it that there isn't the mysterious force.
Speaker 2: Of racism from outside the boundaries of these of these cities,
Speaker 2: or could it possibly have anything to do with the
Speaker 2: leadership of these cities. I don't know how controversial I
Speaker 2: can get on Tony Show. I don't want to drive
Speaker 2: people away, but I do think we I do think
Speaker 2: we have an issue black people with governance.
Speaker 3: And I always say that.
Speaker 2: I always point people back to this little I saw
Speaker 2: this little video when I was in college. I was
Speaker 2: doing a report and I was still liberal by the
Speaker 2: way at this time, I was doing a report on
Speaker 2: civil rights movement and I was going back through the
Speaker 2: archives in my university of civil rights.
Speaker 3: Recordings and videos, and I saw this report. Ever seen
Speaker 3: it again.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was tucked into, but it
Speaker 2: was Stokely Carmichael, who was one of the leaders of
Speaker 2: the founding leaders of the student led civil rights movement,
Speaker 2: went on to be he changed his name to an
Speaker 2: African name, moved to Liberia or something. He got really
Speaker 2: radical towards the end, but in the beginning he actually.
Speaker 3: Made a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: And there was a clip of him saying, look, I
Speaker 2: don't think that we should rush into running for office.
Speaker 2: Like we have just secured these voting protections, we've just
Speaker 2: secured equal protection, all of this stuff, but we have
Speaker 2: not been trained in the proper way to interact with
Speaker 2: government or like we haven't been allowed to and so
Speaker 2: we need to train ourselves properly so that when we
Speaker 2: get in there, we can be effective and not just
Speaker 2: become a part of the organism. But no one heeded
Speaker 2: his warning, and that's what happened. We have the Black
Speaker 2: Congressional Caucus. What the hell do they do?
Speaker 3: What do they do that.
Speaker 2: Has advanced black rights, black awareness, black success, prosperity.
Speaker 3: What have they done for us?
Speaker 2: Every time I talk to a black person about being Republican,
Speaker 2: they're like, what has the Republican Party done for you? Okay,
Speaker 2: I guess I could say the same thing because Gary
Speaker 2: votes one hundred percent Democrat, Memphis votes one hundred percent Democrat.
Speaker 3: What have they done for you? What have Democrats done
Speaker 3: for you?
Speaker 2: They've done nothing but just trade on our fears and
Speaker 2: our insecurities and our desperation, and they have brought nothing
Speaker 2: in return. I don't want the Republican Party to do
Speaker 2: anything for me. I want I want them to get
Speaker 2: out of my way. That's what I want. I want
Speaker 2: to elect government officials who will get out of my
Speaker 2: way and leave me the hell alone.
Speaker 3: I don't want a party to do anything for me.
Speaker 2: And that's another part of the problem we have here
Speaker 2: in this country, in the black community, because every bad
Speaker 2: idea starts there, Every bad experiment goes there where the
Speaker 2: canary and the coal mine. Always every bad experiment starts there,
Speaker 2: but it's expanding out, just like I told you it would.
Speaker 3: You didn't pay attention to what was happening to us
Speaker 3: in our.
Speaker 2: Cities Republican Party, and you didn't fight for those cities.
Speaker 2: This was going to spread out to the larger population,
Speaker 2: and now it has. And now we are facing an
Speaker 2: election cycle in which the Democrat Socialists of America are
Speaker 2: actually making a play for real government offices, for real control.
Speaker 2: They're out there saying the most absurd things, the craziest things.
Speaker 2: But that's because we have not fought for people in
Speaker 2: desperate places like Gary. We have just hands off. Oh
Speaker 2: you know what, we can't compete in Gary. We're not
Speaker 2: even going to put any effort or any money in there.
Speaker 2: I talked to a guy in my podcast once, Devin Jones.
Speaker 2: He runs or did, I don't know if he's still
Speaker 2: there the south Side Chicago Republicans. He applied for a
Speaker 2: national I don't know if you get like accredited or
Speaker 2: something from the RNC. He applied for that to be
Speaker 2: an official office. They turned him down because they said
Speaker 2: the south Side is not worth our efforts or the
Speaker 2: money it will cost. So he opened the office himself
Speaker 2: and he started basically just doing community service. Now we
Speaker 2: look at what's happening to the South Side and all
Speaker 2: of Chicago. They are being overwhelmed by the DSA. Obama
Speaker 2: came and plopped down a monstrous He calls it a library.
Speaker 3: I call it an idol.
Speaker 2: I think someday we're going to find out way more
Speaker 2: sinister things about that place. It looks sinister because it
Speaker 2: is sinister. We should pay attention to how things look
Speaker 2: and what they're called. I think about this a lot.
Speaker 2: Should think about what we name things that means something.
Speaker 2: But look at that we and now these people are desperate.
Speaker 2: These are people who are ripe for political upheaval. They
Speaker 2: are ripe for the picking. Really when it comes to
Speaker 2: ideas and values. If someone can come in and offer
Speaker 2: a good solution, they're ripe for it.
Speaker 3: But the GOP is not there.
Speaker 2: Who's there the DSA, and they have nothing but bad intentions.
Speaker 2: But we black people let our cities fall into disrepair.
Speaker 2: We elect people who we elect traders, people who betray
Speaker 2: their own people by stealing from us and not giving
Speaker 2: what we have asked for. We elect these people, and
Speaker 2: then when the city falls apart, the socialists come in
Speaker 2: and say, oh, this is definitely the white man's fault.
Speaker 2: Probably what you need is free health care. Probably what
Speaker 2: you need is more project housing. Probably what you need
Speaker 2: is fewer police and more social workers. And even if
Speaker 2: people don't think that's what they're voting for, because a
Speaker 2: lot of times these people don't announce themselves, it's what
Speaker 2: they end up voting for, it's what they end up getting.
Speaker 3: We need to be paying attention to both.
Speaker 2: The degradation and desperation of our inner cities and what
Speaker 2: the DSA is doing.
Speaker 3: And I dare say say they're connected. And I dare
Speaker 3: say this is all on purpose that the.
Speaker 2: People who govern our inner cities like Gary, Indiana and
Speaker 2: Memphis are instructed or just culturalized into decline. The idea
Speaker 2: is that you make people miserable. And I say this
Speaker 2: all the time on my own show. Go to j
Speaker 2: just Kira Davis dot com or go look me up
Speaker 2: on X. I say this all the time on my podcast.
Speaker 2: The misery is the point. Miserable people are easier to control.
Speaker 2: And look what's going on in Gary. All of those
Speaker 2: people they're they're lining up for services. My uncle and
Speaker 2: his wife, they're not lining up for services. They are
Speaker 2: helping their neighbors. They're helping themselves. Other people have come
Speaker 2: in to help them. They have had offers from people
Speaker 2: outside the city to help them.
Speaker 3: That's community response. Gary is a broken community.
Speaker 2: And while there are some community leaders who are helping
Speaker 2: and doing their very level best, there aren't enough of them.
Speaker 2: There aren't enough of them, and some of the ones
Speaker 2: who are helping are not really helping because they're just
Speaker 2: blaming all outside forces instead of saying, we need to
Speaker 2: fix this within our own boundaries. We can no longer
Speaker 2: blame other people. But socialism is based on envy. It
Speaker 2: is an envy based system, and Black people we have
Speaker 2: been socialized into socialism across this country. It's even in
Speaker 2: our churches. It's even in our worship. The Black church
Speaker 2: has been infected with the idea of socialism. And socialism
Speaker 2: is an evil concept and it infantilizes people and it
Speaker 2: makes us dependent. Think about what they did with Martin
Speaker 2: during the Alabama bus riots. That's actually a great story
Speaker 2: of how a community can band together for an extended
Speaker 2: period of time to affect change. Those people couldn't depend
Speaker 2: on the government, and so you know what they didn't.
Speaker 2: They boycotted the buses. How did they get around, How
Speaker 2: did they get to their jobs? People offered their own cars,
Speaker 2: They started collecting money for gas, they started private taxi services.
Speaker 2: They started advertising in their own communities. Hey, this person
Speaker 2: can get you to work. This person's going back and
Speaker 2: forth here. And they did it for not months, they
Speaker 2: did it for almost two years before they got what
Speaker 2: they wanted, that was a black community. They didn't quit work,
Speaker 2: They still went to work. They didn't quit life. They
Speaker 2: still you know, lived life. But they organized to protect
Speaker 2: themselves and to affect change. What has happened between then
Speaker 2: and now. Socialism. Socialism, that's what's happened. And Black people
Speaker 2: in America have become a socialist people and it's literally
Speaker 2: killing us. Now, all right, let's take let's take another break.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. I'm Kia David's filling it for
Speaker 2: Tony Kats. You're listening to Tony Kats Today. Welcome back,
Speaker 2: everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest host, Kia Davis,
Speaker 2: filling in for Tony. I know you started the show
Speaker 2: with him, but you're going to end the show with me,
Speaker 2: so you're welcome. Now.
Speaker 3: He'll be back, but he just had to good own,
Speaker 3: so I pick.
Speaker 2: Up the mic for him real quick. I was just
Speaker 2: looking at X and the break. I don't have this
Speaker 2: clip for you, but maybe you want to go find it.
Speaker 2: But it is a clip of Joe Biden speaking last night.
Speaker 2: He was somewhere, he was in South Carolina and he
Speaker 2: let's see this clip says breaking. Joe Biden just tried
Speaker 2: to tell a crowd that he closed the border, not
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. The room went dead, silent, even a room
Speaker 2: packed with Democrats knows as a flat outlie.
Speaker 3: You can't make this up.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the video of Joe talking and he
Speaker 2: looks as blank faced as you would imagine.
Speaker 3: Why is he still out there?
Speaker 2: What are they doing? I think it's the money. I
Speaker 2: think they're broke. We think of these people as wealthy,
Speaker 2: but they're not. They depend on the ever flowing stream
Speaker 2: of tax dollars. But the Biden's left and such grace,
Speaker 2: they're broke now. So I guess they're just wheeling him out.
Speaker 2: I just and who's going to see him? That's the
Speaker 2: other thing, not only is why is he talking? Who
Speaker 2: is going out and spending time, precious time, money and
Speaker 2: energy to go see him? It's so bizarre. Do we
Speaker 2: have time to play this DSA clip?
Speaker 3: Christian?
Speaker 2: I want to play this clip from the DSA Zoom
Speaker 2: because it's very important given what I was just talking
Speaker 2: about about socialism and the DSA coming in and taking
Speaker 2: advantage of all the desperation in these cities. But there
Speaker 2: is a Zoom meeting the other night, and they really
Speaker 2: are not secret about what their intentions are for our nation.
Speaker 2: And this is why you really have to take them seriously.
Speaker 2: And I as you listen, I want you to think
Speaker 2: about all of the incidences of violence you have seen
Speaker 2: come across your social media feed in the last few months,
Speaker 2: and then listen to what they're saying.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and play this.
Speaker 4: We have seen that the Democratic party establishment that we
Speaker 4: have has to be ripped out. We can actually start
Speaker 4: to grab hold of the ship of state and steer
Speaker 4: it in our direction. But it's going to be a
Speaker 4: you know, violent process.
Speaker 5: Our country needs to change and this Democratic Party needs
Speaker 5: to change. I was more than glad to go on
Speaker 5: Hassan's stream. This is we need as democrats, We need
Speaker 5: to go into these spaces.
Speaker 4: Israel has a plan of creating a greater Israel in
Speaker 4: the Middle East, and.
Speaker 6: Eritz Israel would require Israel to expand quad quintuple its
Speaker 6: size by eating up half of Lebanon, parts of Iraq,
Speaker 6: parts of Egypt, most of Jordan, parts of Iran.
Speaker 4: It's not an accident that the same people that will
Speaker 4: take the APAC money take all the other money too,
Speaker 4: you know where they're messaging each other like, oh, there's
Speaker 4: a war over year, won't that be profitable for us?
Speaker 3: What if we started some instability over there?
Speaker 5: IPAC doesn't care about democracy. APAC cares about what APAC
Speaker 5: cares about, which is the corporate interest, the billionaire class,
Speaker 5: and perpetuating this US colony in the Middle East that
Speaker 5: is only able to exist with our taxpayer support.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you wonder why anti Semitism is spreading
Speaker 2: so fast in this country, here, it is. And it's
Speaker 2: not just the Democrats socialists, right, it's the Muslims. It's
Speaker 2: Islam that we've been letting, you know, seep into our
Speaker 2: country for since nine to eleven, really, and that comes
Speaker 2: with anti Semitism. But also so does the violent So
Speaker 2: does the message and the culture of violence. So when
Speaker 2: you look around and you feel like things are deteriorating,
Speaker 2: that's on purpose. The misery is the point. Stay vigilant.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. I'll be back in
Speaker 2: the next hour with much more. I'll be taking you
Speaker 2: all the way home. I'm Kira Davis filling in for
Speaker 2: Tony Kats, and you're listening to Tony Kats today