1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so all the people of Indiana hate Braun, but 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: those big businesses they're still dolling out the dollars. Casey. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so his post election fundraising continues to receive some 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: strong backing from business, doesn't it. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: This is the thing we have said for years on 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: this program, when it was me and the previous blonde lady, 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: and now me and the current blonde the current blond lady, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: that no matter what happens in our state. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: The name's Casey. 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Well, sorry for parking. The reality is this Indiana is 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: totally beholding and in bed with big business, and they 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: don't care if you suffer. What they do care about 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: is if their big business buddies suffer. And when you 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: look at how unpopular Braun is on just about everything, 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: the legislature doesn't respect him at all. He got bullied 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: around on property taxes, he totally caved. He's about to 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: get bullied around. It looks like I'm redistricting. And yet 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: the money from these big business and big business people 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: kept flowing in. And then you look at like, let's 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: take the iedc Audit for example, in which there is 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: what appears to be just mass corruption and conflict of 22 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: interest to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: of taxpayer money going places that are questionable at best, 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: to the point it's so bad it's prompting some inspector 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: general investigation. And what does Braun do nothing to see here? 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: We're moving on right, And and then you go, well, 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: it's probably not a coincidence. Then when you get that 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: type of quote unquote support from the governor boy and 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: that in that isn't that interesting that the big business dollars, 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: despite the state being a dumpster fire, keep rolling in 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: in support of Mike Braun. 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: So he received four hundred and thirty two five hundred 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: dollars in total contributions so far in twenty five all 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: from individual donors, and in September with seventy seven nine 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: hundred and forty three dollars cash on hand, no debt, 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: and he disbursed three hundred and fifty one ninety nine 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: dollars in transfers to different committees. So is what you're 38 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: telling me, he's getting this money and then he's pushing 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: it out to his friend Republican. 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, he's got a wide By the way, Capitol 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: Chronicle depends in Indiana Capitol Chronicle have a phenomenal breakdown 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: of this. If your nerds like us and you enjoy 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: reading where our politicians are being well bought is a 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: strong word, are being supported, You can read something by this. Yeah. So, 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and six thousand dollars to Mike Brown for Indiana, 46 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: sixty tred and thirty two to the Freedom and Opportunity 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: find Out. That was the people, Remember them. Those are 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: the people that they told me when they were begging 49 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: for my support last year. Don't worry, Rob, We've got 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: this this pack and we're going to spend all this 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: money pressuring these senators who aren't going to get on 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: board with the property taxes. Remember they ran one day's 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: worth of ads and then they basically pulled the ads 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: and then sent out a bunch of ads telling everybody 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: to thank them for screwing humanity. Remember that. Yeah, that 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: was the Freedom and Opportunity Group, sixty two thousand to 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: the Indiana Republican State Committee's federal account, four thousand, nine 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty dollars to the state level Indiana Republican 59 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: State Committee, and nine hundred and sixty dollars to the 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: Hoosiers for Opportunity, Prosperity and enterprise victory funds. So there's 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: where some of the money ended up going. But you 62 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, why would someone give And you're 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: talking a lot of these donations twelve thousand, five hundred dollars, 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: twel thousand, five hundreds, ten thousand dollars, seventy five hundred dollars, 65 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, fives like, all of these donations. These 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: people are doing this because they're wowed by bronze, charm 67 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: and charisma. Why would these people be giving this money. 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: The answer in many cases is there's either something they 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: want now or something they're going to want in the future. 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the donors, they'll write one check and then 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: it gets split among all the multiple Republican committees. Now, 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: can he give that money to a different candidate or 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: does it all have to stay within his. 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: No, I think state. So state and federal campaign laws 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: are very different. There are limits on federal contributions that 76 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: don't exist with the state. It's my understanding. For the 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: most part, he can pretty much divvy this up however 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: he wants. 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 2: So, if he wanted to give a sprinkle a little 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: over here to the Attorney General Todd Roketo, so a 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: little over here to the Secretary of State Diego Morales, 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: he could do that. 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: Well. A great example of that would be when most 84 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: of the state is screaming about Todd Roketa to look 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: into Diego Morales. We said, that's never going to happen 86 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: because Todd Roketa gave Diego Morales five thousand dollars, so 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: you can. You can do that. But what this really reinforces. 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I'm I'm torn 89 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: on this about whether we should basically eliminate money out 90 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: of campaigns, because, on one hand, money is a freedom 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: of expression. You earned the money, it's your your first 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: Amendment right to spend a how you see feel. I 93 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: get that. However, when you've got a guy like this 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: giving fifty thousand dollars, you can't do that. So now 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: he's bought better access to his government than you ever could. Well, 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: who do you think Braun is going to listen to 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: when it comes down to if you're in conflict with 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the guy who gave fifty thousand, or you're the guy 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: you're up against ay who gave twenty thousand, who do 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you think is gonna get nine point nine times out 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: of ten the you know, the coin flipped in their direction. 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the person who gives all the money, 103 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: which means you don't have the same access to the 104 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: government that other people do. So don't we need to 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: do something about that? 106 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: Almost seems like maybe there should be a limit, like 107 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: this is the limit you get, let's see what you 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: do with it. Well, then whoever does the best with 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: the money they have? Yeah, and the messaging they can 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: get out. 111 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, like, think about if Braun and I had 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: the same amount of money. They think if we had 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: to run a campaign with the same amount of money. Right, 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: But the reality is these guys can raise infinite dollars 115 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: by legally essentially selling the government, which is what they do. 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: They can legally look at who gets all the stuff, 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: look at who gets all the favors. How is it 118 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: possible that you have an audit of the IEDC that 119 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: shows hundreds of millions of dollars of at best conflicts 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: of interest, at worst blatant corruption and could be potential 121 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: criminal behavior and the governor rushes out before the Inspector 122 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: General has issued any recommendation to law enforcement goes no 123 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: criminal charges, totally tainting the entire investigation. How does that happen? 124 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: Why would that happen? Why would he do that? And 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: then you look at these you know, these sort of 126 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: moneies that are flowing in and you go, oh, now 127 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: I get it. We talked about, we talked about last 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: week the Elevate Ventures, that nonprofit that is tied into 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: the IDC, and that board member who gave all that 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: money to Braun and these other Republicans and who got 131 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: the free pass out of the IDC audit Elevate Ventures, 132 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: despite having all this money that hasn't been repaid yet 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: back to the state. Somehow magically they got a free pass. 134 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: Why would that happen. You can either be the biggest 135 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: believer in coincidences or go wow, maybe there's something going 136 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: on here.