1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: So what is the story of this couple that like 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: when to a restaurant, had sex in the restaurant, then 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: rob the restaurant. I I think that most people listen 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: to that story and and and said, huh, that's ah, 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: that's not I don't know that, that's not dining dash. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to call that. 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: But that needs a name. Sex in the restaurant, then 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: rob the restaurant. That needs a name for sure. Tony Katz, 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good to be with you find everything 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: I do over at Tony kats dot com. Uh, allow 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: me to share the story of Barry Weiss. As we 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: discussed part of this yesterday. It keeps growing? Does this story? 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: The story keeps growing because the move is on to 14 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: readmake sixty minutes to remake CBS News and she's looking 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: to hire. Is Barry Weiss? That's her name, Barry Weiss 16 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: looking to hire Brettbaar and Scott Jennings Brettbeaar, Fox News, 17 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings at CNN. You know the story of Barry Weiss. 18 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: She was reported at The New York Times. The New 19 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: York Times engaged in ideological trafficking that is my term. 20 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I have never heard anybody say that but me, But 21 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is they do. It would much 22 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: more than just engaging in a narrative. It's trafficking. They 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: traffic ideologies, and it should be treated like anybody who 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: does drug trafficking or human trafficking or anything else. It 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: is absolutely abusive stuff and that's what these so called 26 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: reporters do. She saw this and said, I don't want 27 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: to be any part of this. She actually employed a 28 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: concept that David Mammott pushed forward when he wrote the 29 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: book The Secret Knowledge, where it's this idea of progressives 30 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: believe they know something and you can't know it, but 31 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: they know it. What they could do is spoon feed 32 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: it to you a little bit at the time and 33 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: then pat you on the head. But you'll never be 34 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: able to fully understand. Only they can understand it. She 35 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: started the Free Press. People were very interested in actual reporting. 36 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: The success so great that she sold to Paramount Skydounce, 37 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: which purchased a Paramount for one hundred and fifty million dollars, 38 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: and now she runs CBS News. John Dickerson is leaving 39 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: one of the anchors there. John Dickerson is leaving some 40 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: people and on the leftore upset about this. That's how 41 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: I know this is all good. I don't know if 42 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: I would consider John Dickerson the worst offender on the 43 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: idea of ideological tree. But if you want to leave 44 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to fight for your job because there is 45 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: a new sheriff in town who has a different standard, 46 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: one that is actually based on journalism. Now note it's 47 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: not based on conservatism because she's not a conservative. Barry 48 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: Weiss isn't a conservative. Barry Weiss has never been a conservative. 49 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: Barry Weiss is never going to be a conservative as 50 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: far as I know. But she is looking to make changes. 51 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: And one of the places she's looking as the head 52 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: of CBS News she is the news editor in chief 53 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: is sixty minutes. She might very well remove some of 54 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: the Leslie Stall types out of sixty minutes, removing Bill Whittaker, 55 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: removing Scott Pelly and reply, placing them with people who 56 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: are not trafficking ideology but actually engaged in journalism. What's 57 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: wrong with that? By the way, Scott Pelley is sixty eight, 58 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Matt would occur at seventy four. Maybe there's a reason 59 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: one should bring in new people. It's a visual medium. 60 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: Maybe younger would be better, fifty sixties at least. And remember, 61 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Barry White is forty one, Verry forty one. Different view 62 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: of the of the world for sure, different view of 63 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: how people view things, for sure. The left is infuriated 64 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: by this. And once again allow me to tell you 65 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: when the left is infuriated, good because they don't believe 66 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: what we believe. We just said that Barry weiss Ss 67 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: is not a conservative, and you know what we said. 68 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: I'm a conservative. I've never been really anything. But even 69 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: before I understood what I was, as I started to 70 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: understand the things that moved me, I understood that I 71 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: was a conservative, not a Republican. I wasn't a libertarian, 72 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I thought, I you know, I leaned that way for 73 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: a while and said, no, no, no, there are some things 74 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: here that are really truly difference makers. When populism came, 75 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: came a call and came a knock, and I said, 76 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a populist. I'm not. I don't want to 77 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: be angry with these people. I'm gonna need some of 78 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: these people. I just don't agree with a great number 79 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: of things. So I am what I am, and I 80 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: say about Barry Weiss's leading CBS news good because we 81 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: are interested in news, We're interested in the truth, We're 82 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: interested in the stories and being able to rely on 83 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: the data presented to us. So we can then utilize 84 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: that and say, Okay, here's what they said about this. Now, 85 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: why does that compare to this? How does this add 86 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: to this? What about this story over here? We do 87 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: not want to be fed a line of nonsense and 88 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: we never get to what the story is. It's imperative 89 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: that we have people who are not engaged in ideologically trafficking. 90 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: We say good to Barry Weiss. The left says, how 91 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: dare Barry Weiss? And that's the difference. They're not opposed 92 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: to the truth being told. Wait, I take that back. 93 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: They're opposed to the truth being told. We're not. So 94 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: they oppose Barry Weiss and we don't. There is a difference. 95 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Stop telling me about the uniparty and all that crap. 96 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: They are way too way too many people who are 97 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: way too close in all those ways. But it is 98 00:06:55,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: not a uniparty, no doubt. Tony in the chat says 99 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: she is majorly pro Israel. Maybe that's why the Democrats 100 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: and others don't like her. Maybe that's the way she's 101 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: moving the outlet. I don't know. Maybe she's in favor 102 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: of Israel's existence or not thinking that terrorists should be 103 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: able to destroy them. I haven't followed her feed that closely, 104 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: but I would have no doubt. Well, that is certainly 105 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: something I can at least accept. Rather than people who 106 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: are like, hey, you know what we should do. We 107 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: should support terrorists, or we should lie about what's happening 108 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: and support the word of Hamas, which is a lying 109 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: terrorist organization. Maybe we should actually engage the facts that 110 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: present the fact. I think that makes good sense. But 111 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the change up of sixty minutes now you take a 112 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: look at Barry Wis trying to get Scott Jennings over 113 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: from CNN, trying to get Brett Baer or from Fox. 114 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: The Brettbear one is kind of fascinating to me in 115 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: that leaving Fox Man, you got a nice life over there. 116 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: You have built something for yourself over there, and really, 117 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: if you take a look at it, one of the 118 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: reasons you were able to do so is because brit 119 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Hume handed you the keys. This is not a disparagement 120 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: of Brettbear at all. Nice guy. I've never met brit Hume. 121 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: I've met Brett. It's that Brit Hume could have. He 122 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: still could be leading that show Special Report. He decided 123 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: to walk away and just be a special correspondent whatever 124 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: it is he calls himself giving the keys to Brett Baer, 125 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: and he really got that opportunity and solidified it, strengthened it, 126 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: built it. Maybe there's an allure to broadcast news that 127 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't quite understand for the news guy. Maybe a 128 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of Brett Bair would have 129 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: to have in order to take the gig. Scott Jennings 130 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: is different. Scott Jennings is doing commentary, he does a 131 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: radio show, and I'm sure he can do news. At 132 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: least I think he can do news. I don't know 133 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: if he wants to. But Scott Jennings is an interesting, 134 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: interesting play. What makes Scott Jennings work on CNN is 135 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: that he's taking on these leftists who know that he 136 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: is more prepared. He is unyielding in his approach and 137 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: what he has been able to do with that little 138 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: like like side eye to the camera, like I'm live 139 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: streaming right now. So I was him, and I was 140 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: I was talking to to Anna Navarro and Anna Navarro said, 141 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: something is as ridiculous as you know, Anna Navarro would say, 142 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: and then Scott Jennings would just make that little side 143 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: eye to the camera like and then go back into 144 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: the conversation like that's that's what made him. I don't 145 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: know if that's going to translate on CBS. And what 146 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: would you do in increasing a role for him. He 147 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: can't just be somebody who's out there doing just commentary. 148 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: He can't be hired to be like what Chris Christie 149 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: does for ABC, because first of all, Chris Christie at 150 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: this point of the game is basically pretending his way 151 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: through it. You would need to have people on there 152 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: if you want Jennings to be interesting. Who are going 153 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: to go that further left so he can expose the 154 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: insanity or what else is it that you're going to 155 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: have him do? Where do you put him? Where do 156 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: you place him? Do you like the talent? Yes? Do 157 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: you do you value the opportunity that he could bring? Yes? 158 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: But one has to have a plan for Scott Jennings, 159 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure where that plan is and CBS's 160 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: landscape give him a show, But if you give Scott 161 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: Jennings that show, you're now having a show that is 162 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: clearly on the political right. I'm not opposed to such 163 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: a thing. I am saying that if we're talking about 164 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: engaging as news, you can have the commentary guy to 165 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: discuss news stories and what they mean and how they 166 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: affect America and how they're perceived by America. Can't have 167 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: that guy doing news. So I'm not so sure about 168 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: the Scott Jenning thing, Scott Jennings thing, And I'm not 169 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: anti Scott Jennings at all, the Brett Baar thing, he's 170 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: under contract to twenty twenty eight. But changing things at 171 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: CBS good And the more you see people upset about 172 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: the changes, the more you realize they were never interested 173 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: in news in the first place. I'm Tony Katz. This 174 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today.