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Speaker 1: Live from Vall, Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to Tony Katz Today. Today is Friday, July

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony is off today, but I am your

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Speaker 2: all the places you can find me. But by now,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kat's listeners are pretty familiar with me. I'm coming

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Speaker 2: to you live from It's still kind of gray California.

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Speaker 2: It's morning here still and as I record this, and

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Speaker 2: we usually start, I live by the beach, so we

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Speaker 2: usually are close to the beach, so we have this

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Speaker 2: gray sort of marine layer that comes in in the morning.

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Speaker 2: It's still gray, but it's going to be a hot,

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Speaker 2: sunny day, perfect weather. Weather barely changes here in California,

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Speaker 2: and it's lovely, but we pay a high price for it,

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Speaker 2: as you guys well know, and we we are in crisis.

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Speaker 2: We're like two years behind the rest of America. America,

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Speaker 2: you voted for Trump in November, voted for change in November.

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Speaker 2: Prices are coming down everywhere, crime is starting to ease up,

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Speaker 2: and it's just the opposite here. We're just going in

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Speaker 2: the wrong direction here. Still we have this Democrat supermajority.

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Speaker 2: It is fighting the really, it's fighting to the nail. California,

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Speaker 2: I believe, is the last real stronghold for the progressive

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Speaker 2: Marxist complex, and so that's why this is ground zero.

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Speaker 2: I think this is Ice has been parked here in

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Speaker 2: California for a couple months now. To me, it's clear

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Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere, and life is already changing here

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Speaker 2: by the way. I mean, it still sucks, but life

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Speaker 2: is already changing here. With the presence of Ice. Is

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Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. I finally said last week a friend and

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Speaker 2: I were talking about traffic, how traffic has changed. It's

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Speaker 2: all relative. California traffic is still going to be worse

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Speaker 2: than any other traffic in the nation. But I have

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Speaker 2: noticed a significant decrease in traffic congestion in the last

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Speaker 2: at least the last month, probably two months though, And

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Speaker 2: normally what happens is you get on the road in California,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter what time of day it is,

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Speaker 2: you are sitting in bumper to bumper traffic everywhere. It

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Speaker 2: went from at rush hour to the two hours before

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Speaker 2: rush hour, and now it's pretty much all day except

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Speaker 2: for after eight pm, and like between eleven and one,

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Speaker 2: it really is mostly you just kind of got used

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Speaker 2: to wherever you're going. It's a couple of hours. And

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds crazy, but this is kind of

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Speaker 2: what I want to talk about. I like to have

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Speaker 2: themes for the show, and this is kind of what

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about on today's show. Just that

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Speaker 2: what have we gotten used to? What have we gotten?

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Speaker 2: What have we decided to accept in America here in California.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was observing as I'm looking at these

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Speaker 2: traffic patterns changing, we just kind of all accepted, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is life in California. It's gonna take you two

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Speaker 2: years two hours feels like two years sometimes to get anywhere.

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Speaker 2: But since Ice has been here, it's not that way.

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Speaker 2: Rush hour yeah, still bad. The four or five yeah,

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Speaker 2: still epically bad, but not as bad as it used

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Speaker 2: to be. And I can get around in the afternoon hours.

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Speaker 2: I can be moving on the freeway. That's a big

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Speaker 2: victory to move at more than thirty miles per hour.

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Speaker 2: We're already seeing the results of their work here and

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Speaker 2: they're just getting started. I don't think Trump has any

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Speaker 2: plans to take ice anywhere, and that is because California

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Speaker 2: is ground zero for the progressive Marxist movement. We're the

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Speaker 2: last stronghold. You may have heard our governor now our governor.

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Speaker 2: We're leaderless. Not only does it suck, I think that's

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Speaker 2: where I started the spot. Not only does it suck,

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Speaker 2: we're leaderless. Our governor is not governing, he's campaigning for president.

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Speaker 2: If you want to be entertained, go sign up for

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Speaker 2: the Governor's office press account, the California governor Office Press

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Speaker 2: account on x He's got some gen Z intern running it.

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Speaker 2: And this kid's trying to replicate what the White House

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Speaker 2: is doing and what Trump is doing. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about this too next hour. My friend Christian Toto,

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Speaker 2: Hollywood movie reviewer, is going to stop by, We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about Colbert, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: all of the catterwauling about that. But all of these

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Speaker 2: people are trying to replicate trump Ism, Trump's victory because

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Speaker 2: they think they don't understand what sold MAGA. They don't

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Speaker 2: get it. And it's hilarious to watch this press account.

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Speaker 2: He's been taking it to Trump the whole time, as

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Speaker 2: if there's nothing happening here in California, or as if

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Speaker 2: we don't still need a governor. Of course, of course

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Speaker 2: we do need a governor, but it would be good

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Speaker 2: of a good one. I don't know what am I

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Speaker 2: complaining about it? Should I be sad that Kevin Newsom

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Speaker 2: isn't in our state right now?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't help things when he's here. When he's here,

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Speaker 2: I guess. But it's just another symptom of what's going

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Speaker 2: wrong in the Democrat Party and what's going wrong and

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Speaker 2: what they're fighting for. You're seeing Newsom respond to Texas

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Speaker 2: Texas is going to redistrict. Yay, Finally, jerrymandering should be illegal.

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Speaker 2: It's to me it seems clearly unconstitutional. But whatever, I

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Speaker 2: can't control that. Well, Democrats have been using jerrymandering for years,

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Speaker 2: and Republicans refuse to use it, at least not in

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Speaker 2: the vast ways Democrats use it. Finally, Republicans are getting

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Speaker 2: on board. They're going to redistrict in Texas, Texas to

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Speaker 2: add some extra seats to the House. Gavin Newsom's response is, well,

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Speaker 2: we're going to read district here so that we can

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Speaker 2: carve out an extra five Democrat seats and get rid

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Speaker 2: of five Republican seats. It'll be a tit for tat.

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Speaker 2: We'll match it. Think about what they're saying there for

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Speaker 2: new for Newsom to say, I'm read districting specifically as

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Speaker 2: a response to Texas. It's not about the people here

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Speaker 2: in California or who's represented. We don't count in this

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Speaker 2: equation for any of these elitists. That's what the Democrats

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Speaker 2: don't understand. Even as they're floundering and throwing things against

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Speaker 2: the wall and electing socialists in New York City, even

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Speaker 2: as they're doing all of that, they still they still

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Speaker 2: don't get it. That's all surface level work. They don't

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Speaker 2: care about it. The problem is they don't care about us.

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Speaker 2: They don't think about us. Even now as they're doing

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Speaker 2: all of these things to try to get back to

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Speaker 2: some kind of normal or some kind of position of strength.

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Speaker 2: It's all surface work. Has nothing to do with you,

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Speaker 2: the voter, has nothing to do with how you feel

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Speaker 2: about how things are going around you. From my advantage point,

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Speaker 2: the midterms are in no danger, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: oriant on California to start out the show. As I

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Speaker 2: was prepping for the show, I was looking on X

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Speaker 2: and a lot of people are talking about sharing photos

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Speaker 2: of Obama's presidential library going up in somewhere in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: And I have never seen this thing. I haven't I

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Speaker 2: bect I had heard it wasn't even being built for so,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's twenty twenty five. I don't understand what

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Speaker 2: takes a library so long to complete. Well, let me

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Speaker 2: encourage you right now to go to my timeline and

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Speaker 2: on X a real curate Davids. That's Kira, And the

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Speaker 2: top tweet is I just retweeted this Obama presidential library

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Speaker 2: and it is something straight out of a James Bond movie.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's worse than James Bond. It's what's the

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Speaker 2: the Mike Myers, Austin Powers or with the Evil Guy.

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Speaker 2: It's like that. It is this giant. I'll try to

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Speaker 2: describe it to you. It's a giant cement block, got

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Speaker 2: to be about ten stories, twelve stories maybe more, with

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Speaker 2: dedicated to windows. There's nothing on the bottom. I think

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Speaker 2: I see a few little cutouts for windows. It looks

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Speaker 2: like a prison. It looks like something a Disney villain

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Speaker 2: would build. It's hideous, and it's taken. Don't get to

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Speaker 2: you math two decades basically to build this. So far,

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Speaker 2: it's still being built. It's so insane. But guess and

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of people are sharing it and they're

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Speaker 2: and they're sharing my sentiments. They're going, this is a

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Speaker 2: this is a villainous creation. But I challenge you go

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Speaker 2: look at the If you've never been to the African

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Speaker 2: Go take a look at that building. Just type it

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Speaker 2: into Google, do an image search. Look at that building

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Speaker 2: in comparison to Obama's building. Now, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it was the same designer. It could be, but that

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Speaker 2: building is hideous. That building that's supposed to celebrate Black

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Speaker 2: American culture, arguably one of the most creative subcultures within

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Speaker 2: American culture. We are basically responsible for pop culture. Think

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Speaker 2: of all the black artists that have changed music and

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Speaker 2: we have no shortage, Dewey, We have no shortage. You

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Speaker 2: can point to anything. We all enjoy Black American culture

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Speaker 2: but we're talking about our cultural contributions. It's a it's artistic,

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Speaker 2: it's creative. This building, the African American Museum, is a

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Speaker 2: slab of some men. It is this hideous creation built

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Speaker 2: is going on? Why aren't why aren't we building beautiful things? Furthermore,

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Speaker 2: why are these villains building villainous temples to themselves? I

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Speaker 2: think that's a good question to ask. There's no self

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to They don't even try to hide the

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Speaker 2: reflect that. Honestly, this building looks like a temple. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Katz, and you

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Speaker 2: are listening to Tony Katz today. Welcome back, everybody to

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. I'm Kia Davis filling in for the

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Speaker 2: Great Tony Katz. We were discussing Obama's hideous Presidential Library

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Speaker 2: and the African American Museum. Again. I should have looked

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Speaker 2: this up. We'll look at it. It might be the

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Speaker 2: same designer, but it's reflective of the rot, the coldness

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Speaker 2: and uncaringness I think of the modern Democrat Party and

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama. He's in a lot of trouble. I don't

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Speaker 2: think this whole thing is going away. This Russia Russia

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Speaker 2: Democrats suddenly care about Jeffrey Epstein and Trump is right

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Speaker 2: about that. As much as you and I want people

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Speaker 2: to be brought to justice for that horror. He's right,

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Speaker 2: it is a distraction, It really is at this point

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Speaker 2: because there is something really big happening right now. This

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Speaker 2: Russia hoax is finally being exposed. It is the story

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Speaker 2: of the century, it really is, and a Barack Obama,

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Speaker 2: the Messiah, is at the center of it. And I want,

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Speaker 2: I just want people to think about why this is

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Speaker 2: such a big deal. It's not just because it's possibly

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Speaker 2: treasonous or traitorous. I don't want to get into the

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Speaker 2: weeds and the definition of those words, but you take

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Speaker 2: my meaning. This is a bad thing. Not only is

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Speaker 2: a bad thing for president of the United States to

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Speaker 2: be involved in weighing elections and doing so by falsifying

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Speaker 2: we can see all of the ways we're different. And

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Speaker 2: social media or media in general, as we've just been

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Speaker 2: talking about those Russia Gate hoax, it amplifies it. It

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Speaker 2: amplifies those differences. Then we codify those differences. Right, it's

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Speaker 2: not enough for our constitution to say all men are

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Speaker 2: created equal. Then we need a Civil Rights Act, Then

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Speaker 2: we need a Women's Rights Act, and then we need

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Speaker 2: special legislation for gay people, or trans people, or black

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Speaker 2: people or Asian people. And we have all We're no

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Speaker 2: longer Americans. Now we're Asian Americans, or Black Americans, or

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Speaker 2: African Americans, or Iranian Americans, you know whatever, Polish American

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Speaker 2: we never had. White people don't get to have those designations.

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Speaker 2: This is only for people of color instead of being Americans.

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Speaker 2: Were all of these other kinds of groups. And it

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Speaker 2: actually gets codified. And now we have entire departments in

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Speaker 2: companies that are dedicated to educating you about your divisions,

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Speaker 2: about your differences. Then we lose people like Hulk Hogan,

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Speaker 2: Ozzy Osbourne, Malcolm Jamal Warner, we use these lose these

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Speaker 2: icons of a time when everyone had to sit down

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Speaker 2: and watch the same same TV shows and we had

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Speaker 2: the same celebrities. Even the celebrity world is divided up right.

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Speaker 2: You have your TikTok celebrities. You have WhatsApp celebrity, WhatsApp shows,

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Speaker 2: you can go WhatsApp. They have their own shows. You're

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Speaker 2: on your own celebrities on WhatsApp, YouTube celebrities, regular TV celebrities,

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Speaker 2: movie celebrities. Everything's divided. And then we want and we

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Speaker 2: look around, we go, gosh, America is so divided. It's

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Speaker 2: never been more divided. Why is it so divided? It

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Speaker 2: must be Trump's fault. No, Trump is a symptom. He

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Speaker 2: is not the cause.

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Speaker 3: We have been.

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Speaker 2: We are being purposefully divided because no one can defeat

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Speaker 2: us militarily. The only way to defeat us is with ideas.

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Speaker 2: Because Americans are We're a nation of ideas. We're based

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Speaker 2: on the ultimate earthly idea, which is that all men

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Speaker 2: are created equal and that our rights come from a creator,

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Speaker 2: not each other. We can only be defeated by an idea,

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Speaker 2: and we are being defeated. And that's why I really

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Speaker 2: think it is it's time to take this seriously. It's

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Speaker 2: not Hulk. Hogan's passing isn't just it's tragic. He was

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Speaker 2: seventy one. His body took I don't know what happened,

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Speaker 2: but it's fair to say his body took a huge

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Speaker 2: beating over the years, and you know he wasn't in

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Speaker 2: good health. But it isn't just a tragedy. It's also

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Speaker 2: the death of a point of commonality. If we want

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Speaker 2: to save this country, we need to revive commonality. We

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Speaker 2: need to revive the notion that America is worthy of

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Speaker 2: enjoying and it's worthy of our love, because even though

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Speaker 2: we have different political views, I should be able to

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Speaker 2: go to CNN and MSNBC and hear totally different stories

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Speaker 2: from a different point of view from Fox News or

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Speaker 2: Newsmax or any conservative outlet. I should be able to

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Speaker 2: do that. That's fine. They have a point of view,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. They like to pretend they don't, but they do.

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Speaker 2: Of course, that's not the problem. But the problem is

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Speaker 2: when you have an information complex that's set up to

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Speaker 2: purposefully divide you, that is treasonous. I know people are

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Speaker 2: a lot of you know, there's always the conservative I

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Speaker 2: call him a conservative contrarian crowd. They always if Trump

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Speaker 2: says something, then then they like to say, well, I'm

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Speaker 2: not that kind of conservative. And so the contrarians are saying, well,

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Speaker 2: Trump shouldn't say call Obama's actions treason is because treason

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Speaker 2: is a specific word, and it's a distraction. And I

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Speaker 2: what I have observed about Trump over the years, going

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Speaker 2: from someone who did not want him to be president

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Speaker 2: in twenty six seemed to someone who is excited to

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Speaker 2: vote for him in twenty twenty four. I will say

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Speaker 2: that Trump doesn't say things he doesn't mean. Sometimes he

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Speaker 2: say things, says things to elicit a reaction, or sometimes

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Speaker 2: he's saying things that he doesn't mean. Literally. He means seriously,

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Speaker 2: but not literally. Right, He's a New Yorker. He talks,

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Speaker 2: he's big, he talks like a New Yorker, but he

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Speaker 2: doesn't say things he doesn't mean. The Canada top Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's he's he was. At first it was a joke

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Speaker 2: and then you realize, no, he's serious about maybe annexing

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Speaker 2: somewhere all of Canada. We have these ideas that this

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Speaker 2: is what we again the theme of the show, or

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Speaker 2: we have just gotten used to ideas. We think that

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Speaker 2: nothing can change. Yeah, we can buy another country. It

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Speaker 2: happens happen all the time. And the map, the world map,

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Speaker 2: the way it is today, it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 2: that way tomorrow. It can change. Yeah, the United States

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Speaker 2: could continue conquering other countries, either financially or militarily or otherwise.

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Speaker 2: We're like, there are things that we can do that

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Speaker 2: we should consider normal options. And we've just allowed ourselves

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Speaker 2: to be educated out of the idea of America as

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Speaker 2: a powerhouse by the media elites and their allies in

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Speaker 2: the Democrat progressive complex. And then they have spent the

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Speaker 2: last twenty years working to divide us. So we've got

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Speaker 2: to put it back together, all right. We've got more,

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Speaker 2: including Christian Toto talking about Colbert at the top of

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Speaker 2: the next hour. Don't go anywhere. I'm Kira Davis filling

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Speaker 2: in for Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartband and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody to Tony Kats Today. Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: is out today, Friday, July twenty fifth. No worries, though,

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Speaker 2: I am with you. I'm Kira Davis feeling in for

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Speaker 2: my good friend Tony coming to you life from Southern California.

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Speaker 2: You can find out more about me on x formerly

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Speaker 2: known as Twitter at Real Kira Davis. We've been talking

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Speaker 2: about the division. The theme of this show has been

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Speaker 2: the division sewn by the left in every aspect of society. Really,

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Speaker 2: as I think about it, we're going to move into

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Speaker 2: the entertainment culture in a minute here, and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about hulk Ogan. The thing I didn't have time to

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Speaker 2: mention at the bottom of the last hour was the

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Speaker 2: importance to hul Cogin has in the media sphere. His

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Speaker 2: cultural significance is not just about what he did in

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Speaker 2: the entertainment field or wrestling, or even what he did

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Speaker 2: to help, you know, push Trump forward in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: the whole Cogan is really one of the first people

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Speaker 2: who exposed on a national level the depth of corruption

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Speaker 2: in the media complex. He's the reason why Gawker, which

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Speaker 2: was a media giant in the early two thousands, why

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Speaker 2: they don't exist anymore. And he's the reason why a

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Speaker 2: lot of salacious stories about celebrities began to disappear or

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Speaker 2: not disappear, but they had a lot more fact checking

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Speaker 2: behind it, and it launched a new era, although there's

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Speaker 2: still flouting the rules. That launched a new era of

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Speaker 2: accountability for media, and we're seeing that the echoes of

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Speaker 2: that with how Trump is treating the media now too,

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Speaker 2: in the lawsuits that he's filing, and I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of us are gonna have to go that way.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be law fair to wrestle back

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Speaker 2: the corruption of the media complex. But to talk more

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Speaker 2: about that, we're gonna talk about whole Cogan. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about Stephen Colbert. Please welcome my good friend,

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Speaker 2: movie reviewer, founder of the website Hollywood in Toto. He's

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Speaker 2: got bylines at Breitbart and Daily Wire. He's been on

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Speaker 2: the Megan Kelly Show. Christian Toto. Welcome to Tony Kass today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 3: Oh My Pleasure.

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Speaker 2: You can find Christian on X by the way at

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Speaker 2: Hollywood in Toto like the Dog Toto. Before I want

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Speaker 2: to talk of you wrote a great article at your website,

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Speaker 2: in fact, at Hollywood intoto dot com about the Colbert

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Speaker 2: dust up. But I want to start before we move

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Speaker 2: on to that. I want to talk about hul Cogan.

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Speaker 2: We lost him, we lost Ozzy Osbourne. But I've been

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Speaker 2: talking about how losing icons like them and Malcolm Jamal Warner,

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Speaker 2: it's not just the death of these old celebrity icons,

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Speaker 2: but it's sort of the death of commonality. That these

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Speaker 2: were stars we all knew back from a day when

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Speaker 2: entertainment was more conglomerated, when entertainment there was only a

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Speaker 2: few sources for it, and so we all shared these

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Speaker 2: ideas of these cultural icons. And hul Cogan was like that,

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Speaker 2: and I was wondering if you could speak to that

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a great point. I mean, even Betty

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Speaker 3: White and I think we have to go bubble wrap

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Speaker 3: Dolly Parton at this point. We can't lose her. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: this was a different era. I mean, we didn't politicize everything.

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Speaker 3: These were larger than life figures. They entertained us, they

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Speaker 3: distracted us. We weren't considering them in anything but just

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Speaker 3: pure entertainment and goes. That's what hul Cocin was all about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, my gosh, you know, I mean just go

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Speaker 3: watch his appearance in Rocky three to get a sense

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Speaker 3: of that and how he was able to kind of

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Speaker 3: cross into different media platforms. But yeah, I agree. We're

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Speaker 3: more cynical now and the culture is just so splintered.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I like golf with a very specific

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Speaker 3: kind of club, I can go probably find a podcast

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Speaker 3: and has that specialty in there. I mean, it just

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Speaker 3: we're just seeking out our little subniches. And this was

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Speaker 3: an era where we didn't need to do that. We

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Speaker 3: didn't have to do that. We all rallied around these

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Speaker 3: figures and we missed that.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the Gawker thing, because

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Speaker 2: this is something, this is a story that sort of

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Speaker 2: disappeared from the public consciousness, and a lot of people

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Speaker 2: don't associate this with Haul Cogan, but really I believe

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Speaker 2: it's the genesis of media accountability. Legally speaking, Hulk Hogan.

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Speaker 2: Gawker was almost like a BuzzFeed site, BuzzFeed type site

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Speaker 2: for people. And I don't know I should I let

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Speaker 2: you explain this is the people. I can do it,

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Speaker 2: but you're our guest. Would you like to kill people

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Speaker 2: in a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit, I'm a little fuzzier on and know the basic beat,

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Speaker 3: so you go ahead and we'll come.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So basic Gawker was like BuzzFeed, but it did news,

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Speaker 2: it did pop culture, news did like bite size, you know,

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Speaker 2: news of the day, listicals, and a lot of celebrity gossip.

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Speaker 2: I used to go there for my celebrity gossip. I

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Speaker 2: missed their gossip pages. But they published a sex tape

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Speaker 2: of Paul Coogan that they got with someone who was

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Speaker 2: not his wife, and it was as weird and creepy

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Speaker 2: as it sounds, but obviously it was not by permission.

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Speaker 2: And they at that time sex tapes were how you

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Speaker 2: became a celebrity, and we were kind of used to

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Speaker 2: seeing them in the public eye and Kim Kardashian at

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Speaker 2: Paris Hilton and I guess they just felt entitled to

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Speaker 2: do it. And Hule Cogan wasn't very pleased with it,

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Speaker 2: but he was broke. He had gone broke, he had

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Speaker 2: made some bad investments. Wwe days were over his broke,

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Speaker 2: so kind of sit and take it. But Peter Teal,

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Speaker 2: the famous investor Peter til They outed Peter Teel as gay,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't want to be outed. And when he

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Speaker 2: saw the whole Cogan story, he funded a lot. So

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Speaker 2: he funded Hull Cogan's libel lawsuits against Gker. They won.

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Speaker 2: Goker had to pay out fifty five million dollars the

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Speaker 2: whole cogo and it broke them. They no longer exist.

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Speaker 2: We don't even remember who they are. You have to

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Speaker 2: explain it. And at the time they were one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest publications online publications in the business. So hul

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Speaker 2: Cogan's legacy isn't just about entertainment, but it really, as

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Speaker 2: I see at Christian is kind of the genesis of

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Speaker 2: this media accountability. And you'll notice that outlets are a

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Speaker 2: lot more careful, at least in the celebrity sphere about

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Speaker 2: what they print.

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Speaker 3: It's so many great points there, and I agree, and

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Speaker 3: I think the accountability is necessary because listen, I'm a journalist.

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Speaker 3: I write stuff online. I try to be as responsible

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Speaker 3: as possible. But you just see more and more websites

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Speaker 3: simply behaving badly. And you can look at BuzzFeed with

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Speaker 3: the Steele dossier as one example. You know, at some

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Speaker 3: point we have to be adults in the room and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is not appropriate. Now. You know, when someond is

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Speaker 3: a public figure or a political figure, you know it

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Speaker 3: becomes more important. But certainly there was no real news

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Speaker 3: value behind that situation. My gosh. So you know, good

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Speaker 3: rittance to Gawker it's a good trend that's going on.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't like lawsuits of plenty. I you know,

647
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Speaker 3: I think that can be abused for sure. But you know,

648
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Speaker 3: I just don't understand how these different media platforms, and

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Speaker 3: I mentioned specifically the View because the View shares crazy

650
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Speaker 3: talk almost every day, and I don't understand how there's

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Speaker 3: no one in that building, in that office, on that

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Speaker 3: set who says, wait a minute, you can't say that

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Speaker 3: that's not anything related to the truth. What are we

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Speaker 3: doing here? And I don't know how many legal notes

655
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Speaker 3: we need to protect ourselves, But that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: It is a huge problem. We've been talking about Russiagate

657
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Speaker 2: and why that is a big story and it shouldn't

658
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Speaker 2: go away, and you're right, and the View has been

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've had to apologize lately because the Trump

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Speaker 2: administration is no longer taking this for just blatantly saying

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Speaker 2: false things, and so we've been talking about how that

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Speaker 2: purposefully divides Americans and so the media does have to

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Speaker 2: be accountable. Speaking of accountability, Christian, you wante a great

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Speaker 2: article on your website today why the Left can't stop

665
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Speaker 2: crying over Colbert's cancelation. You can find that at Hollywood

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Speaker 2: intoto dot com. It's right there on the front page.

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Speaker 2: And you talk a lot about all that, you break

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Speaker 2: down some of the rage at it. But I want

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Speaker 2: to scroll down to the end here because at the

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Speaker 2: end I want to just read this and have you respond.

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Speaker 2: You say, you know, you're talking about complaints about Colbert

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Speaker 2: being canceled, but also some complaints about the rise of

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Speaker 2: conservative entertainment, and you say they're afraid, and they should be,

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Speaker 2: and the worst maybe yet to come. That doesn't hide

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Speaker 2: the fact that the left still controls the levers of

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Speaker 2: pop culture, TV, film, music, theater. We just learned Larry

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Speaker 2: David As joining forces with the Obamas for a historical

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Speaker 2: comedy show on HBO Max Boy. More like minded projects

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Speaker 2: will follow in the weeks and months to come, like

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Speaker 2: a film railing against mass deportations bank on it. What's

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Speaker 2: different now the rebels have reached the gates. They have

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Speaker 2: the technology and distribution channels to compete on a more

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Speaker 2: level playing field. Progressives are losing their monopoly on arts

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Speaker 2: and entertainment and they're not taking it well. And that's

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Speaker 2: really what the Colbert stuff is all about. It's not

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Speaker 2: why is he entitled to a job. All these people

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Speaker 2: feel like they're entitled their jobs. Otterwalling about sedal people

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Speaker 2: being laid off, and you're just entitled to your job.

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Speaker 2: But that's really what it's about, isn't it. They're losing control.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean that show is a messaging machine,

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Speaker 3: five nights a week saying hey, this is how you

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Speaker 3: should think. These are the people that we want you

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Speaker 3: to hate, and these are the jokes that we want

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Speaker 3: to share, and they're very political and it's very one sided,

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Speaker 3: and you know, losing that kind of a megaphone hurts,

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Speaker 3: but it also, like I said, speaks to a larger

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Speaker 3: issue where you know, I could come up with a

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Speaker 3: YouTube video and I can maybe use AI or some

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Speaker 3: other sort of very inexpensive format to get it out there.

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Speaker 3: And if it's clever and funny and interesting and it

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Speaker 3: hits the mark and speaks to something truthful, it can

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Speaker 3: go viral and all of a sudden that's out there

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Speaker 3: competing with a Colbert clip, so to speak. So that's

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Speaker 3: the landscapeer in again. It's it's wildly unbalanced, for sure,

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Speaker 3: but I think there are inroads being made. And I

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Speaker 3: quote in Astoria as a gizmoto. I barely know that site,

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Speaker 3: but they were never We're in on this new studio.

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Speaker 3: It's a fledgling studio. They want to make pro American films.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I mean, talk about a drop in the ocean.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's a pro American film out there amidst the

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Speaker 3: sea of mainstream projects which don't align with those values.

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Speaker 3: So what why would you care? Why would you be angry?

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Speaker 3: But you read the piece and they're furious. And I've

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Speaker 3: seen this again and again. You know, the movie Unplanned

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Speaker 3: came out a few years ago as a very pro

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Speaker 3: life movie and a whole all of the obstacles that

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Speaker 3: movie had to jump through just to get to the theater.

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Speaker 3: Why just one little film. They want the monopoly they

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Speaker 3: want to have. They want to have control over the

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Speaker 3: pop culture landscape and slipping away a little by little. Again,

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Speaker 3: they still have mostly control of it, that's for sure,

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Speaker 3: but when things change, they're upset and they're nervous. They

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Speaker 3: don't want to lose that, and they are losing it

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Speaker 3: to a degree. And if they just entertained, they wouldn't

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Speaker 3: lose it so quickly.

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Speaker 2: Right, it seems so simple, But I don't know. If

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Speaker 2: they don't want to win using simple ideas like that,

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Speaker 2: then more power to them. Mile just watch with my

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Speaker 2: buget a popcorn. But you're absolutely right. We even see

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Speaker 2: that with X. Right, like, if Elon hadn't bought X,

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Speaker 2: things would be a lot different now. But when he

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Speaker 2: was in the process of buying Twitter, all we they

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Speaker 2: the progressives own every other avenue of disseminating information, and

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Speaker 2: this to them was the end of the world. Just

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Speaker 2: one platform in a sea of platforms. It's about monopoly,

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Speaker 2: which you say at length in your in your great

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Speaker 2: article today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they want that control. And you know what was

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Speaker 3: the threat of X. I mean Facebook was leaning left

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Speaker 3: at the time, Instagram, YouTube, all the different warnings on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: You can status, but you can't say that TikTok is

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Speaker 3: certainly not a conservative platform. Uh. You know, the mainstream

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Speaker 3: media has certainly left of center. That's that's being that's

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Speaker 3: being generous. But all of a sudden X comes along

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Speaker 3: and promises more speech, more communication, more viewpoint and there's

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Speaker 3: a hair on fire moment. Why is that? Why are

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Speaker 3: they so afraid? And what we're seeing now is that

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Speaker 3: the left just doesn't debate. They can't really kind of

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Speaker 3: compete in the arena of ideas, and when you challenge them,

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Speaker 3: they call you racist, sexist, homophobic because they can't, because

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Speaker 3: that's the way to shut you down. And so we're

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Speaker 3: seeing that on a cultural level as well.

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Speaker 2: What's next for Colbert? He's out, you know, he's got

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Speaker 2: another season these next season is going to be last season.

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Speaker 2: He's got one more. But now he's just basically spent

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Speaker 2: every night insulting CBS. So it seems like he's trying

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Speaker 2: to get let go early and then and then where

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Speaker 2: does he go from there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean he can go almost anywhere in a

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Speaker 3: sense as far as the adulation in the industry for him,

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Speaker 3: and he has some comic chops for sure. I think

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Speaker 3: they've been dulled in recent years. Is it a video podcast?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that seems like the most logical step. The

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Speaker 3: budget for such a production would be significantly lower, so

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Speaker 3: we could basically do what he does and get the

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Speaker 3: same audience or a similar audience and be successful on

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Speaker 3: those terms. It's just that he's in a dying format.

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Speaker 3: The show is bloated, it's losing millions of dollars. There's

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Speaker 3: no reason why it should be on the air as is,

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Speaker 3: because why would you put a show on that loses

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars. So I think he can do whatever

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Speaker 3: he wants, and God bless him. You know, he's got talent,

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Speaker 3: he can he speaks for certain part of the world

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Speaker 3: of the country. He should be able to do whatever

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Speaker 3: he wants to do. It's just this format, this template

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Speaker 3: no longer is feasible, and people are freaking out about

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Speaker 3: that reality.

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Speaker 2: That's That's a great place to end it because I

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Speaker 2: think that sums up the progressive left and as represented

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Speaker 2: by the Democrat Party right now. They're freaking out about reality.

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Speaker 2: Reality is the problem, all right. Christian Toto from Hollywood

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Speaker 2: in Tote, Yeah, Hollywoodtoto dot com. Tell people where they

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Speaker 2: can find you online.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my home base. I have the Hollywood in

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Speaker 3: Total podcast comes out each week and on Twitter or

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Speaker 3: x I'm at Hollywood in Toto tooto.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much, my friend. Enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, Christian Toto, Hollywood Intoto dot Com.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kia Davis filling in for Tony Katz and this

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today. Welcome back to Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats is out. I'm your guest host, Kira Davis.

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Speaker 2: So glad to be sitting in with you today. This Friday,

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Speaker 2: July twenty fifth, couple days after my birthday. Happy birthday

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Speaker 2: to me. We just spoke with Christian Toto of Hollywood,

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Speaker 2: and Toto talked about the Cold Bear meltdown and how

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Speaker 2: everyone is so upset about it, and there's just this

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Speaker 2: idea that again, the ideas entitleman. I love the way

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Speaker 2: Christian ended it, and I think I'm gonna steal this

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Speaker 2: for a maybe a column theme. But what they're protesting

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Speaker 2: against on the left right now is reality. Everything that

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Speaker 2: they are against is reality. They cannot deal with reality,

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Speaker 2: so they have to make things up. Russia, Russia, Russia,

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Speaker 2: very fine people hopes. Everything's the end of democracy. You

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Speaker 2: can go to my substack. I wrote an article about

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Speaker 2: the weird Hunter Biden interview, but you know we're on

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Speaker 2: In that article, I talk about how we're on iteration

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Speaker 2: number thirty three of the end of democracy. Everything's the

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Speaker 2: end of democracy. We defunded NPR and PBS. That's the

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Speaker 2: end of democracy. Imagine the taxpayer just not paying a

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Speaker 2: few million dollars every year for these two quote public

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Speaker 2: broadcasting entities, that's the end of democracy. Do you know

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Speaker 2: the firing access federal workers. We have a federal workforce

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Speaker 2: of over three million people. We don't need them all.

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Speaker 2: Firing them is the end of democracy. Firing kolbet are

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Speaker 2: the end of democracy. You ever noticed how for them

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Speaker 2: the end of democracy always involves them losing jobs. That's

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Speaker 2: when it's the end of democracy. Wasn't the end of

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Speaker 2: democracy when they locked you in your home, or they

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Speaker 2: forced you to get an experimental vaccine just to work,

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Speaker 2: or they locked you away from your dying relatives. My

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00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: uncle had to die alone in a Chicago hospital of

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Speaker 2: cancer because of the COVID restrictions on visitors one per day.

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Speaker 2: And then once that person's gone no more, he had

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Speaker 2: to die. A log I got kicked out of I

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Speaker 2: got kicked out of Cook County Hospital in Chicago for

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Speaker 2: recording an altercation between somebody who was trying to get

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Speaker 2: up to see their dying loved one and the police.

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Speaker 2: And they wanted my phone. They wanted me to delete it,

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Speaker 2: and I wouldn't. And because obviously you can't have my phone. No,

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Speaker 2: absolutely not. Anyways, that's either here nor there. That's not

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Speaker 2: the end of the democracy. That's not the end of democracy.

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Speaker 2: Stand of democracy isn't secretaries of states across the country

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Speaker 2: certifying uncertifiable election mail in voting dead people voting. That's

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Speaker 2: not the end of democracy a boris border. No, the

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Speaker 2: end of democracy is when democrats lose jobs. That's the

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Speaker 2: end of democracy. You can't take them seriously about anything.

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Speaker 2: The way they are screaming about Colbert. He's losing money,

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Speaker 2: and his argument is, well, you know, if you didn't

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Speaker 2: have to, if you didn't chicken out and pay Trump

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Speaker 2: forty million dollars for that lawsuit settlement sixty minutes, maybe

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Speaker 2: we would have that money. When your argument is he's

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Speaker 2: not arguing that he's losing money. He knows he's losing money.

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Speaker 2: He's arguing that, well, you're losing money in other places,

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Speaker 2: so if you just saved that money, then I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have to be canting, you know, Like that's the argument

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Speaker 2: he's making. It's not fair that they're spending money in

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Speaker 2: other places instead of spending it on keeping my loser

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Speaker 2: show afloat. These people don't live in reality. That's why

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Speaker 2: Trump won. They were in that bubble telling us the

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Speaker 2: economy is good, the border's good. Your lives have never

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Speaker 2: been better. You're just too dumb to notice. They've been

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Speaker 2: fighting it ever since. Go to another break. I'm Caura

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Speaker 2: Davis filling in for Tony Katz, and this is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today, Friday,

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Speaker 2: July twenty fifth, Tony Katz is out today. I'm Caara Davis,

856
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Speaker 2: feeling in for my good friend. Coming to you live

857
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Speaker 2: from southern California, behind the Orange Curtain. I'm not in

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Speaker 2: La County. I'm in Orange County, where life is a

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Speaker 2: little more livable. But if you want to know more

860
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Speaker 2: about me and go to my substack, just Kia Davis

861
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Speaker 2: dot substack dot com or just search my name. A

862
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Speaker 2: lot of stuff will come up. I am not the

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Speaker 2: anime voiceover artist Kia Davis. Apparently there is someone out

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Speaker 2: there who does that. I am also not the high

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Speaker 2: school star bowling team athlete in Florida. I'm not that

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Speaker 2: Ciara Davis. Early as well, we're talking about copiert, the

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Speaker 2: collapse of late night TV. By the way, all of

868
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Speaker 2: these I know by now you've seen all of the videos.

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Speaker 2: I mean, John Stewart had a really raunchy video, did

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Speaker 2: a really raunchy sketch the other night where he just

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Speaker 2: sang f you over and over again to CBS. I think, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, you've just seen comedians. The late night comedians

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Speaker 2: showed up to the audience recently to show their support.

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Speaker 2: They're all hopping mad, all spitting that at CBS and Paramount,

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Speaker 2: I guess. But the reason is is because they're next.

876
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Speaker 2: They are on the chopping block and they know it.

877
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: They have been coasting on their elite status. And I

878
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: think as we're going to find out, is this Russiagate

879
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Speaker 2: that stuff goes on, we do more investigating. I think

880
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Speaker 2: we're going to find out that they were kept afloat

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Speaker 2: by things programs like USAID. Guys. I think USAID was

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Speaker 2: keeping some of a lot of this late night afloat,

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Speaker 2: and that's why I think and other government programs, and

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Speaker 2: I think they were getting paid by This is speculation.

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Speaker 2: I have nothing proof wise to back this up. In

886
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Speaker 2: my opinion, I think there is probably evidence out there

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: somewhere that Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen bet get paid by

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Speaker 2: pharmaceutical companies and other entities, even the government maybe in

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Speaker 2: a roundabout way, but all that's dried up, right, USA

890
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: idea is gone, So maybe they've been like just floating

891
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: off the fumes of that. They don't Television is dead

892
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: period again. We've been talking about the loss of the

893
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: death of commonality on this show, and one of the

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Speaker 2: points of commonality throughout modern American culture has been television

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: and movies, and that landscape is changing. People don't sit down.

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Speaker 2: Nobody watch it. Who watches late night TV anymore? Maybe

897
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Speaker 2: your grandmother, maybe some of you who are a little older.

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Speaker 2: Gen X still tune in to watch late night TV.

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Speaker 2: We know what it is, but the reason we know

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Speaker 2: what it is is because it gets clipped up and

901
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: then those clips go around social media. But who's sitting

902
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: down to watch it late You know who? You know

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00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: what late night show people actually sit down to watch?

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Speaker 2: You guessed it? Gutfeld. I'm Fox. My husband, who doesn't

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Speaker 2: watch any of this stuff. He's very a political guy,

906
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: will make it a point to watch Gotfelt every night.

907
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: And we're in California, so it comes on earlier here.

908
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Speaker 2: We can do that because we're gen X. We do

909
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: go to bed early in this house. But he makes

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00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: it a point to watch Gutfelt. He doesn't watch any

911
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: of that stuff. He doesn't even watch me when I'm

912
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: on TV. But Gutfelt has millions of I think he's

913
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Speaker 2: pulling in like three million market share or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Colbert is three hundred thousand on a good night Now.

915
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Speaker 2: Back in the heyday of late night television, that that

916
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Speaker 2: number was fifteen million, twenty million. There's no there there anymore.

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Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily because of the content. Although content

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Speaker 2: doesn't help, It doesn't help if you're in a struggling

919
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Speaker 2: industry like film and television, then maybe what you don't

920
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Speaker 2: do is purposefully alienate half the population and call them

921
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Speaker 2: dumb and stupid Nazis. I don't know a lot about

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Speaker 2: the business of entertainment, but that seems like a no

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Speaker 2: brainer to me. But of course it is the end

924
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Speaker 2: of democracy, Like these are the voices for democracy, but

925
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: of course they don't understand what reality is to them.

926
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Speaker 2: And I wrote this about the Hunter Biden interview. Again,

927
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Speaker 2: go to my substack to look that up. To them,

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Speaker 2: democracy is class is everybody being in their class. So

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Speaker 2: to the Hunter Biden's out there are arguing that you're

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01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: a bigot for opposing illegal immigration because who and it's

931
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Speaker 2: just laden with f bombs. Who's gonna who? Who do

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Speaker 2: you think cleans your efing hotel room? Who do you

933
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Speaker 2: think washes your effing dishes? Now, in his mind, that's

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01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: a really good and reasonable argument like these, But if

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Speaker 2: you step back, you take three feet of distance from

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Speaker 2: that comment. What he's saying is are these people they're

937
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: just workers, They're just manual labors, and they love to work.

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Speaker 2: Their purpose in life, their whole purpose in life is

939
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Speaker 2: to serve the upper class. He doesn't imagine that for

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Speaker 2: most Americans, a night or two in a hotel room

941
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: once a year is a luxury let alone so often

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Speaker 2: that you actually think about hotel staff, right, But to

943
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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, that's a way of life, and to a

944
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Speaker 2: lot of Democrats, especially in the ruling establishment. So that's

945
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Speaker 2: how they look at us. That's how the Colberts of

946
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: the world look at us. They look at us, even

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01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: me and you in this audience. They look at us

948
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Speaker 2: as the people who clean their hotel rooms and scrub

949
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Speaker 2: their toilets. We're always supposed to be in the audience.

950
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Speaker 2: We're never supposed to go anywhere. We're not smart enough

951
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: to go anywhere, and so if we do, it's because

952
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: we're not doing our jobs. That's democracy. Democracy is us

953
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 2: knowing our place and funding their comfort. That's democracy. So

954
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: of course it's the end of democracy because it's the

955
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: end of their free lunch. Now a lot of these

956
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: people are moving over to substack, where I am. Love Substack,

957
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: please go sign up for it. Yeah, I think it's

958
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: the future. I do. I love it. But I'm an

959
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Speaker 2: independent journalist and I'm a small independent journalist. I don't

960
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: have millions of millions of viewers. That's not my niche,

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Speaker 2: that's not what I do. But they have looked down

962
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: on us for so long in independent media. They have

963
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: scoffed at our independent outlets like sub and now that's

964
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: where they're going, right when you get fired off a

965
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: network TV, where you're going you're slumming it with the

966
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: rest of us in independent media. That's what's going on

967
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: out there. But they it's because they have lived in

968
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: their elitist bubble for so long. They think they're entitled

969
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 2: to it, they think they belong there, and they think

970
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: that's the life they're supposed to be living as Americans.

971
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: And as soon as you decide not to honor your

972
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Speaker 2: end of the social contract. You're the enemy. All right,

973
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Speaker 2: let's take a break. I'm Kia Davis filling in for

974
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, and this is Tony Kats Today. Welcome back,

975
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Speaker 2: everybody to Tony Katz Today. I'm your guest host, Kia Davis,

976
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Speaker 2: filling in for my friend Tony Katz, coming to you

977
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: from southern California. We've been talking about the media elites

978
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: and the Colbert cancelations and everything going on. I want

979
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Speaker 2: to read you this report from the New York Times today. Now,

980
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: as you know, the end of Democracy, Part twelve was

981
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: the defunding of PBS and NPR. That was going to

982
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Speaker 2: be the end of democracy to the tune of five

983
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five million dollars a year. I want

984
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Speaker 2: to I want you to understand before I read this article,

985
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: I want you to understand that NPR and PBS, the

986
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 2: funding is a Ponzi scheme. It's not NPR is not

987
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 2: a studio, nor is PBS. They are government agencies. They

988
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 2: don't have any cameras or studios or anything like that.

989
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: Their government agencies they pay They disperse broadcasting grants to

990
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: local stations across the country. And then those local stations

991
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: also purchase content from MPR and PBS that they might

992
01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: produce elsewhere, produce, they might produce, you know, all things considered,

993
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: and then that can be licensed out. They have to

994
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 2: buy that. They have to buy that. Your local PBS

995
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 2: station isn't getting the sesame Street when it was on

996
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 2: there for free. They have to buy it from the

997
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: federal So it's a big, just a big Ponzi scheme.

998
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: It's it's so ridiculous. So anyway, here's the story. Donations

999
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: to NPR and PBS stations surge after funding cuts. The

1000
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: public broadcasting system in the United States suffered a seismic

1001
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: shock last week last week when Congress eliminated roughly five

1002
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five million dollars a year in federal funding,

1003
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: but public radio listeners and TV viewers have been stepping

1004
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 2: in to help fill the gap and delivering a surge

1005
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: of donations over the last three months as the prospect

1006
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: of cuts intensified. Roughly one hundred and twenty thousand new

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 2: donors have contributed to an estimated twenty million dollars in

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01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: annual value value, said Michael Hiplik, the president and chief

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01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: executive of Contributor Development Partnership, a firm that analyzes public

1010
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: media fundraising data. Overall donations committed to public media for

1011
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 2: the year are about seventy million dollars higher than last year.

1012
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: Some stations have report it's only July, everybody. Some stations

1013
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 2: have reported a particularly sharp uptick in donations in the

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Speaker 2: days since Congress approved the cuts. Amanda Mountain, the president

1015
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Speaker 2: and chief executive of Rocky Mountain Public Media, a member network.

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Speaker 2: As I told you, it's not MPR and PBS, they're

1017
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: just government agencies. They distribute money to all these other subsidiaries,

1018
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: which and that becomes a racket. By the way, that

1019
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: becomes a racket, which it has been anyway. Some let's

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Speaker 2: see She's have received six six twenty donations from Friday

1021
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: to Sunday, including one thousand from new contributors contributors. One

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01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: donor gave a five hundred thousand dollars gift. This story

1023
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: is written from the point of view of look at

1024
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: these scrappy little public public broadcast stations. Mean old bad

1025
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: Orange Man took away their money, but the people are

1026
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: uniting to keep them afloat, to stop this end of democracy.

1027
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: And of course they're proving our point for us. They

1028
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: don't need public dollars, they have yours. If you want

1029
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: to support MPR or PBS, then you send them money.

1030
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: If you want the NRA to keep doing what they're doing,

1031
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: If you want to support them, they already they already

1032
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: have your money in the form of tax exempt status.

1033
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 2: Right so as a nonprofit, these organizations are technically getting

1034
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: our money. They're taxis in, so they've already got a

1035
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: win there. But if you want to support NRA, you go.

1036
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: None of us are saying, hey, the NRA should get

1037
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: our automatic tax dollars. We should automatically be funding them.

1038
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: No one is saying we should automatically be funding the

1039
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Speaker 2: pregnancy the pro life pregnancy center down the street with

1040
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 2: tax dollars. We have only ever said tax dollars don't

1041
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: need to fund these things. You can fund it, and

1042
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: they go, oh, but it won't be enough. Then you'll

1043
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: cut programming, right, then you'll slim down, You'll do what

1044
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: the rest of us have to do in normal America

1045
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: when our budgets get tight. Instead, they expect us to

1046
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: keep tightening our belts to buy less bacon, which I

1047
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:01,879
Speaker 2: find extremely offensive. To buy less bacon, to take fewer

1048
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: trips with our families, to invest fewer dollars in our

1049
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: children so that they can continue to vacation in Martha's vineyards,

1050
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: and they can continue to run late night shows that

1051
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: lose forty million dollars a year so that they can

1052
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: continue their vanity projects at NPR and PBS. So stations

1053
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: are nothing, nothing but bias factories right now. I've been

1054
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: on PBS several times over the years. The last time

1055
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. They no longer call me.

1056
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: Actually they do. What happens is they they contact me

1057
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Speaker 2: to come on one of their shows that they news

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Speaker 2: hour shows, and then someone looks up the video from

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Speaker 2: the last time I was on there, and then they go, oh,

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Speaker 2: we don't need you this week. They do that over

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Speaker 2: and over again because the last time I was on

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Speaker 2: there with a panel of women, these are grown women

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Speaker 2: older than me. We're talking about the trans the boys

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01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: and girls sports issue, and I was the only one

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Speaker 2: who refused to say that boys can be girls. And

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 2: when I corrected them on it, no, boys can't be girls,

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Speaker 2: they were appalled and shocked. They couldn't believe, they could

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Speaker 2: not believe it, and it got into a yes they

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01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: can know they can't kind of think I haven't been

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Speaker 2: invited back since Yeah, they're one thousand percent bias, and

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: we just don't want to fund that bias. And to them,

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Speaker 2: it's the end of democracy. When they have the money

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 2: to support these institutions themselves, what they want is for

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: us to support their institutions. So not only are our

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: personal funds being drained, they're going straight into their wallets.

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:57,440
Speaker 2: Our side gets weaker and weaker, has less and less access,

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: and their side gets fatter and fatter and own more

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: and more the information system. Are you seeing how this works?

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: It's usaid. We have been funding our own demands. We

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01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 2: have been funding literally the end of democracy. And that's

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: what they're fighting about. That's why they're so upset. That's

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: why every story is tragic human interest story from these

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: rich people losing their jobs. If you have a government

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01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: job in Washington, d C. Do you have any clue

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01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: the access you have to premium healthcare and premium wages,

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01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: not to mention vacation time. The way they live there

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 2: is nothing close to how the rest of us live.

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 2: And they're mad that reality is now checking in all right,

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01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: We've got a check in for our own reality break,

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01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 2: but don't go anywhere. There's a lot more on the

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Speaker 2: other side of this hour. I'm Kira Davis filling in

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Speaker 2: for Tony Katz and you're listening to Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Live from Vall, Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Cats Today.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody to Tony Kats Today. Our three Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats is out today Friday, July twenty fifth. I'm Kira

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Speaker 2: Davis sitting over my good friend Tony, coming to you

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: from Orange County, California, and you can follow me on

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01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: x at Real Kira Davis go sign up for My

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: podcast is on hiatus for the summer. Just listen to

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01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: yourself with Kia Davis is the name, though pretty self explanatory.

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: Just listen to yourself. We've been talking about the meltdown

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,919
Speaker 2: in media, coldbet, the loss of some great cultural icons,

1104
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: the Obama Presidential Library, Russiagate. All of it boils down

1105
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: to the same thing. There's been a lot of division

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: created in this country. We need to fix things, we

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01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: need to fix them fast, and there are some very

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01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 2: specific things that have to happen. I open the show

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: by talking about why I think ICE is parked here

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: in California for the foreseeable future. I don't think they're

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: going anywhere. They are showing up across the state in

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01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: places I never would have imagined. Never, Like if they're

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: not just hanging around in La and San Diego, which

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: is like you can they could probably spend the next

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: four years there and still not be done. They're not

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01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: just going to save farms in the inland Inland California

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01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: and picking up migrant workers there. But they're going to

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01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: places like Irvine and Santa Ana. Irvine has a large

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01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: illegal Asian population. They're going there there. There are a lot,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot. The reason why, though, is because if

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01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: California doesn't get cleaned up, we're just going to keep

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01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: exporting this poison to the rest of the country. Case

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Speaker 2: in point, Gavin Newsom, he's still the governor of California,

1124
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,879
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't know it. He's out there running for president.

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01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's governed in any way. He's just

1126
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: been podcasting. I can't think of one governing thing. He

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: doesn't even show up to the sites of disastrous events here.

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 2: You know, when the fires were going on. It took

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01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: him four or five days to get down here. He

1130
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 2: podcasted though, he flew in the pod Save America guys

1131
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: and podcasted with them. So anyway, the demise is coming.

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: Colbert is canceled, Late Night TV is right behind him

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: in general. And then I read this article to you

1134
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: from the New York Times about how donations to NPR

1135
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 2: and PBS are skyrocketing, which is exactly what we said

1136
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: should happen. We don't care that they exist. We just

1137
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: don't want to pay out of our own pockets. If

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: you love it so much, you buy it. Well, here's

1139
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: another story that I found from the New York Times

1140
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: in the break. It looks like Media Matters is the

1141
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: latest left wing publication to be struggling. In a side

1142
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: of what could be in store for other targets of

1143
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: Trump and his allies. Media Matters MMFA on X is

1144
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: struggling to survive. The Demiliine group has racked up fifteen

1145
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: million dollars in legal bills, dialed back, They dialed back

1146
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: their criticism of Trump and Musk, and they have contemplated closing.

1147
01:15:54,920 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: Media Matters for America is the original crap stirs when

1148
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: right wing media came up, and we were all just bloggers.

1149
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 2: In the beginning, we were called bloggers. We're not allowed

1150
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: to use that term anymore. I guess it's very basic,

1151
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: but we're all just bloggers in the days of Andrew

1152
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: Breitbart that those are the days of the tea Party.

1153
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: That's when I meant Tony Katz, that's how we got

1154
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 2: connected and started to become friends. And so back in

1155
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: the day when conservative media was beginning to rise up,

1156
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,799
Speaker 2: it wasn't just Rush Limbon now anymore on the radio.

1157
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: The response from the left was to fund a media

1158
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: organization that just did hit pieces on all the conservative media.

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 2: That's all they did. The whole goal was just to

1160
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: smear and destroy conservative media. They did a good job

1161
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: of it. Back in the day, it was kind of

1162
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: a joke like, oh, this is what I there's just

1163
01:16:53,760 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 2: going to get me on MMFA. I think MMAFE and

1164
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: if I'm not wrong, there may have even been some

1165
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: line items on this from DOGE. But MMFA is a

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: Usaid recipient. They were being funded by tax dollars. But

1167
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, through the Ponzi scheme of Usaid to basically destroy,

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01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: smear and destroy right wing media. That's who MMFA is.

1169
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: They are the mortal enemy of every right wing media

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01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: pundit and have been for ten fifteen years. So to

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01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: see them, to see them say that they can't pay

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: their legal bills of fifteen million dollars. If you're a

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01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 2: major publication like that, legal is like half your budget.

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 2: You you always have to be You're not only are

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01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 2: you defending yourself from libel suits and all kinds of lawsuits,

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01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 2: but you'll also be called on to defend yourself against

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01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:19,799
Speaker 2: copyright claims, photo copyright infringements. You'll have to appeal appeal

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01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: social media suspensions. A lot of major publications have in

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01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 2: house legal teams. All they do is appeal, appeal suspensions

1180
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: or copyright strikes from YouTube and Facebook and all of that.

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01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: That's all they do. So it's just delicious, is what

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's delicious to see media Matters for America

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01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: crying because they can't afford their legal bills, because all

1184
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 2: they do is lie. That is why I started off

1185
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:03,839
Speaker 2: this conversation with Hulk and how what he did at Gawker,

1186
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: his Gawker laws, who's funded by Peter Thiel, how it

1187
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: really changed. It took a decade for it to catch up,

1188
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: but it really changed how we deal with media and

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01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: what media is going to be held accountable for, because

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01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: up until recently, they can say anything and do anything,

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01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 2: and they can memory whole anything, and the avenues of

1192
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: information were so narrow that they could get away with

1193
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 2: it and we just forget about things a memory hole it.

1194
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: But now they're that I think I talked earlier about

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01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: the downside of this smaller culture. You know, all of

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: these avenues of media were further divided. But the upside

1197
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: is there's all these different ways to get a story out,

1198
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 2: to get information out. They don't control the avenues anymore,

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Speaker 2: so things live on, things go on, people still talk

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01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 2: about them. It's really that's what it's really important to

1201
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: keep talking about Obama and Russia Gate and all of that,

1202
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 2: because it isn't just about their treasonous or possibly treasonous actions,

1203
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: but it's also about a media that purposefully lies, and

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01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: they have been in collusion with the left wing Democrat Party,

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01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: I'll say, the progressive left wing of the Democrat Party

1206
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: for so long that they and Democrats lie all the

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01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,440
Speaker 2: time with impunity because they have the media in their pocket.

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 2: Everyone's used to it. They're just used to saying whatever

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: they want and getting away with it. This is why

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01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 2: I tell you all the time, that's why Kamala Harris

1211
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: is so bad. When you see her talking and you're like,

1212
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, how did she get one heartbeat await

1213
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 2: from the Oval Office? Well, it a lot of different reasons,

1214
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 2: but one of the reasons why are California politicians always

1215
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: sounds so stupid when you see them, it's because they

1216
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: don't don't have any pushback here. There's no combative media.

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01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 2: They are not sharpened by anything. There's a super majority

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01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 2: in Sacramento. They don't have to debate ideas, they don't

1219
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: have to justify ideas. They snap their fingers and what

1220
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: they want exists. So they're just not used to defending

1221
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 2: their ideas. And that's why they because they don't have

1222
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: a defense, they don't need to. And so what's happening

1223
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: now is all of these outlets that have just been

1224
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: telling lies for so long now they have to provide

1225
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: a defense. And that's when things get sticky. It turns out,

1226
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: whoop be Goldberg and joy behar you can't just say

1227
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 2: whatever you want and pretend that it's true. See, it's

1228
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: one thing, deposits of the one thing to be in

1229
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: the arena of celebrity gossip or oh I heard this,

1230
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 2: or that's not what we're talking about. When you're sitting

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: on a news program and you're telling people this is

1232
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:59,919
Speaker 2: proof Trump is a Nazi. We have proof Pete Hegseth

1233
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: is an adulterer. Everyone knows it. That you can't that's

1234
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: not okay. You can't say it as everyone knows it.

1235
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 2: Then you're you're shieling it as the truth, not speculation,

1236
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: but the truth. That's the problem. So yeah, we there

1237
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: has to be accountability for these media organizations because they're

1238
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: only going to start printing the truth when it costs

1239
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: them to print the lie. And they got this is

1240
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 2: part of Trump's problem. Through his first term. They got

1241
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: away with lying about so much and they're not going

1242
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: to get away with it now. I know we have

1243
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 2: a lot of complaints about the pace of things Trump.

1244
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,440
Speaker 2: There's a lot of moving pieces in the Trump organization.

1245
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: And believe me, if we have learned anything over the

1246
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: last four years, it is it is that it is

1247
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: important to hold your leaders accountable, even if you like them.

1248
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: So I'm not suggesting that you sell out to the

1249
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: Trump vision or manga. Nothing like that, I promise. But

1250
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: what I am saying is that I don't think we

1251
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: have a proper I don't think that we have a

1252
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,480
Speaker 2: well rounded out viewpoint of exactly what the Trump administration

1253
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: is doing right now, and that is hitting the American

1254
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: the problem of modern America through different angles, and these

1255
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: are going to have repercussions far into the future. The

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 2: elimination of USAID alone is going to change a lot,

1257
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: as we're seeing in the media landscape. Why is the

1258
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: New York Times running articles about how MMFA can't pay

1259
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:54,959
Speaker 2: their legal bills. MMFA is not competition for them, MMFA

1260
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 2: is their callade. Why are they running the story because

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01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: New York Times might be next Trump has no love

1262
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: for them, and a lot of people don't these days.

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01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: You know. Why are these late night hosts all putting

1264
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: out profanity laden sketches and videos supporting Stephen Colbert, acting

1265
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 2: as if Stephen Colbert is some just like poor coal

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Speaker 2: miner who depends on his late night job in television

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01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: to put food on the table for his four disabled kids.

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01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 2: Why because they know their next things are changing, and

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01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: when the media changes, how's that going to change the voting.

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01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: When education changes, how's that going to change the voting.

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01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: We've been educating Marxist for sixty years. What if we

1272
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: started educating patriots? You see what I mean. School choice

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01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: was in that big, beautiful bill. Legislators across the country

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01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: are passing it. More people are homeschooling more than ever.

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01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: The teachers' unions are dying. They're going to die. Might

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01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 2: take a few years, but they're going to die. They're

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: on the way. Trump is filling all of the vacant

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01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: judge ships across the country and in the lower courts,

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01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 2: and then in Scote is dealing with the chaos of

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01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,799
Speaker 2: the activist judges. That's going to change not only rulings

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01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: that we see now, but rulings that happen long after

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01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: Trump is dead. Things are changing. The progressive left understands

1283
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: it because they play the long game. We're not used

1284
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 2: to playing the long game, so we're not getting it.

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01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm asking people to look further ahead, not ten weeks

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01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: or ten months ahead, look ten years ahead. That's where

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: Trump's looking, and he there's a good chance he won't

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01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: even be alive ten years from now. But that's the

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01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: mark of a leader, someone who can see beyond his lifetime.

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01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, it matters that people like organizations like Media

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01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: Matters are floundering and the late night talk show circuit

1292
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:10,879
Speaker 2: is being punished paying the consequences for their partisanship. It matters.

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 2: It's going to change the future, I think for better.

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01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: We'll need all the help we get with AI on

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Speaker 2: our heels. All right, let's take a break. I'm Cura

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Speaker 2: Davis filing in for Tony Kats and you're listening to

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, and welcome back to Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: I'm Curate Davis filling in for my friend Tony. He

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Speaker 2: is out this Friday. I was just reading in the

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Speaker 2: break this article on handbags for men, the broken bag.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of you maybe don't know or

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01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: care about broken bag, but it's super expensive. Excuse me,

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01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: handbag a beg for rich people. And you've if you

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Speaker 2: watched sports though, you've probably seen some of your favorite

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01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: athletes carrying a broken purse into the locker rooms. It's

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01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: a fad now, men with versus just this is what

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Speaker 2: the Left is doing to our men. Look, I love

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01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,839
Speaker 2: a good fashion statement. I love a wild fashion statement.

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01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm very Southern California, you know what I mean. Like,

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01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm used to the weird stuff. I like it. I'm

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Speaker 2: into it. I get the sort of artistic expression in

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Speaker 2: fashion and art, and I love stuff that looks crazy

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01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 2: to me that I get. You know, I'm not going

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01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 2: to wear it into the office. But I love when

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01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 2: someone with some celebrity status takes some risks and gives

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: me something to look at, because what they're giving me

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 2: on screen isn't interesting these days. So, you know, do

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: your job, sing and dance, tap dance, do a little song,

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01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,440
Speaker 2: do your job. Entertain me. So I love the outfits

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01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But I draw the line at

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01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 2: men carrying purses. There's no reason for it. Men, you

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01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: don't carry a person. Carry a woman. Okay, she has

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01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: the purse, and then you make her carry all your

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 2: extra junk, and then she yells at you about never

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01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 2: being prepared to carry your own things and how her

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01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: bag is heavy and she's not just a carrier for you,

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01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: and around and around you go for the rest of

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01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: your lives, this marriage. Get married. You don't need to

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01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: carry an ef feminine burken bag. No, I don't want

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01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: my I don't want my man to have a purse.

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01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: I love my man looking good. I love him looking fashionable.

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Speaker 2: What do you have to carry men in your purse?

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01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: If you go on old worksite, get your work back.

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01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: If you got some extra stuff to take around, get

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Speaker 2: a backpack. I don't even care. If it's like a

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01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: fancy backpack. You know it's got some bells and whistles.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a Louis Vauton backpack. If something a purse, No,

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01:28:53,439 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: it's just the feminization. If you'll notice what the celebrity

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: classes are you noticing what they're doing. Everything's inverted. That's

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01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: what's happening. And that's why suing the media and all

1341
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 2: of the stuff Trump is doing. It's to set things right.

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01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: Everything's inverted. The left came in and turned dads into

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01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: dumb idiots who are stupid and fat and do nothing

1344
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: but sit around and let their wives and kids insult

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01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: them all day. Right, they got rid of the dads,

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01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: They got rid of the notion of moms at home,

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01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 2: of the of the non working mom or working in

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01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: the home. Told us that you know, you can redefine

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01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: male and female. You can redefine sexuality outside of biblical norms,

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01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 2: it's fine. And then they tell us that men carrying

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01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: purses is normal and women cutting off all their hair,

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01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: and you know the and the body positive movement, where

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01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 2: you know, we're supposed to embrace three hundred pound women,

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01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,560
Speaker 2: that that's attractive, that that's normal femininity. You look in

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01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: the movies these days, you're superhero movies that have women

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01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: in them. Look at all of the pictures of them.

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01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 2: Used to be there was a female superhero. She was sexy.

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01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 2: I think Laura Croft, tomb Raider. You know, there was

1359
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: some sex cells. And now they're just so androgynous. They've

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01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 2: gotten rid of the concept of romance in these movies.

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01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 2: It's an inversion. The men carry purses and the women

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01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: are out being the superheroes. I it's it's a deliberate inversion.

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01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 2: So the more I talk about the bad thing, I

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01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: was just kind of making fun of it when I

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01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,600
Speaker 2: was reading it. But then the more I think about it,

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01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 2: the more I'm like, no, all of this is connected.

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01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 2: We got to start looking at I know, we do

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01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 2: a really good job. It's something that's Tony and I

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01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 2: argue about this too, because we all do this really

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01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 2: good job of going like I don't know why we're

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01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: worrying about this when we have this to worry about.

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01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 2: And my point is, well, every if you're smart, you

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01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 2: can walk and chew them at the same time. But

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01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 2: it's all connected, it's not unconnected. It's not for nothing.

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01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: What happens in this part of the world, in this

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01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 2: part of our country affects that part and vice versa.

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01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: Everything has to be set right if we're going to

1378
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 2: continue on into the Golden Age of America. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's take another break. I'm Kia Davis feeling in for

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz and you are listening to Tony Kats Today.

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01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tony Kats Today. I'm Kiara Davis feeling

1382
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:59,959
Speaker 2: in for Tony. We are pulling into the final moments,

1383
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,839
Speaker 2: the last half hour of the show. Time always flies

1384
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: when you're having fun. I want to pull up this

1385
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 2: clip from Trump yesterday. He was with the FED chairman

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01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 2: Jerome Powell. Now, I have to admit I don't understand

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01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,679
Speaker 2: the FED. I have a lot of libertarian friends. I'm

1388
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 2: very familiar with the phrase and the FED, and I

1389
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: think that's as far as the understanding of most Americans go.

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01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: I have learned more about the FED since President Trump

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01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 2: has become president, because he talks about it a lot.

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01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 2: What I do know about the FED is that it

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01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: has a very weird It is not government, but has

1394
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,919
Speaker 2: a weird relationship to government. The whole thing is shady.

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 2: I don't know why we do it, although I know

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01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: there's reasons underneath the reasons. My point is this Trump

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01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 2: doesn't like the FED, that's clear, and he definitely doesn't

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01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 2: like the head of the FED, Jerome. And the thing

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01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 2: that I have come to love about Trump, I used

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01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 2: to think it was funny and now I just love

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01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: it is that he is not above putting anyone on

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01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 2: the spot, and he learned a really important lesson from

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01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. He did or tried to do a lot

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01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 2: of things behind the scenes because he didn't want to

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01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: disrupt American progress or the American psyche. He didn't want

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01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: to destabilize America. It's why he didn't go after Hillary Trump,

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01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 2: even though he made that epic joke about her being

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01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: in jail. We now know, I think more than we

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01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,799
Speaker 2: ever have before, that he probably does have the goods

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01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 2: on her. She probably could go to jail. He chose

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Speaker 2: not to do it because at the time, I think

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01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 2: he felt it was going to be destabilizing, but he

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01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: learned his lesson and now he understands how to get

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01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 2: the story directly to the American people since the media

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01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 2: is not on his side. And one of the ways

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01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 2: he's doing he is by making the story. May He's

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01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 2: always the story, right. The only thing they will cover

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01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: is him. They're not going to cover his victories. They're

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01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 2: not going to give you the details of the great

1420
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 2: tariff deals he's making or the money that's come in.

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01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: The only time they'll turn their camera on for a

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01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Trump story is if he's standing in front of it.

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01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: So what does he do. He takes advantage of that

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01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 2: and makes himself the story, and then he tells us

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01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 2: what he wants everyone to know. Well, he is no

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01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: friend to Jerome Powell, and he's been advocating for that

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01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 2: guy to beat it for quite some time now. And

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01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 2: Jerome Powell is an elitist establishment progressive puppet in my opinion.

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01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 2: And he's been renovating the Fed offices. Now, the Federal

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01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 2: Reserve is not a government department, and yet somehow the

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01:34:55,080 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: tax payers pay for the building which he's having renovated.

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Speaker 2: And Trump got Winn that these renovations were extensive and expensive.

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01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: And Trump's philosophy is, if you want fancy, and Trump

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01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 2: loves fancy, opulent probably is the best way. If you

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01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: want opulent, you pay for opulent. Have you seen what

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01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,799
Speaker 2: he's done to the Oval Office? But gold, gold, embellishments everywhere,

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01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 2: but he paid for it. Put a giant flagpole in

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01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: front of the White House, but he paid for it.

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01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 2: This thing is like, you pay for it, not the taxpayers,

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01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 2: which I think that that's nice. Well, he decided to

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01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 2: visit the work site, and Palace of course has been saying, oh,

1442
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 2: these are long overdue changes. It's fine. It's not. It's

1443
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: not even an overrun. It's in Trump, who's a builder,

1444
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: is saying, no, you're you're fleecing the American taxpayer at

1445
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 2: the same time you're holding their interest rates hostage, and

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01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. So here Trump is with Powell at the

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01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 2: construction site. I think Powell do just things. They're there

1448
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: for a tour, and then Trump decides to pull out

1449
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 2: the receipts on just how much this endeavor is costing

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01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 2: the American people. Go ahead and play that.

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01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,600
Speaker 5: Clip so well, taking a look and it looks like

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01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 5: it's about three point one billion. It went up a

1453
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 5: little bit or a lot. So the two point seven

1454
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 5: is now three point one and where the Yeah, it

1455
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:26,800
Speaker 5: just came out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't heard that from anybody to fact, just kid.

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01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 2: Our knows that about three point one at twelve three

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01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 2: one three point two.

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01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: This came from us.

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01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know who does that?

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Speaker 2: Are you including the Martin renovation?

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Speaker 6: You just added our retire capital, You just you just

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01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 6: added in the third buildings. When that is that's a

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01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 6: third building.

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01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 5: Well, it's a building that's being built.

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01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: It's been it was built five years ago.

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01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 6: We finished mortin five.

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01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 5: Years it was over as part of the overall. So

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01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 5: so we're gonna take a look. We're going to see

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01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 5: what's happening. And it's got a long way. Do you

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01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 5: expect any more additional bus out runs?

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Speaker 6: Don't expect them. We're ready for him. But we have

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01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 6: a little bit of a reserve that we may use.

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Speaker 6: But no, we don't expect to be finished in twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty seven. We're well along as you can see.

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Speaker 2: Three point one billion. In his Powell's excuse was, oh

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Speaker 2: you added a third building? Trump is it doesn't matter

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01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 2: his excuses. Well, it's not new, it doesn't count. We

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01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 2: still paid for it, dummy, We still paid for it.

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01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 2: He's like, well, it doesn't count because it was built

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01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 2: five years ago. This project is taking ten years. It

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01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 2: does count. Trump is like, it's a building that's been built. Dumh.

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Speaker 2: Just stunning. I find the video so that you can

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01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 2: see also, how stupid, how stupid Jerome Powell looks look stupid.

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01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 2: Can't think of a better word. He looks so stupid,

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01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 2: and you can tell he knows he looks stupid. He

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01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 2: looks embarrassed. He should be three point one billion dollars

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Speaker 2: for what What have you done to deserve this? I

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01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 2: can't even afford a new home, right. My kids are

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01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 2: maybe never gonna be homeowners in this country unless I

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01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: give them something. And you are building three point one

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01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: billion dollar new offices on our backs. Yeah, Trump is

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01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 2: that Absolutely, That's not a story if Trump isn't standing

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01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 2: in front of the camera. Otherwise, the media doesn't care

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01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 2: about how much money Jerome pousmans. They're never even gonna

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01:38:55,920 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 2: know that the Fed is spending this much money. All right,

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Speaker 2: I gotta take a break. We got one more break.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere. We'll bring it home. I'm Cura Davis

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Speaker 2: feeling in for Tony Kats and you're listening to Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats today. Welcome back, everybody to Tony Kats Today. Cura

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Speaker 2: Davis feeling in for Tony Kats. Before I forget, let

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01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 2: me just run down where you can find me my podcast.

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01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Just listen to yourself available wherever you find your podcast.

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01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Excuse me, uh my sub sac just Curadavis dot substack

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01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 2: dot com. You can find me on ags at real

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01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,879
Speaker 2: Kia Davis or on Instagram at just listen to yourself

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01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, those are all the best places to

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01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 2: find me. Just start there and you'll find something. Before

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Speaker 2: we go, though, I wanted to talk a little bit

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01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 2: about this fire aid story here in California. I want

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01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,520
Speaker 2: you to think about the times when disasters hit Americans

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01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 2: and you've donated money. When you give money, what are

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01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 2: are you typically imagining happens to that money. I think

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01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 2: a lot of people, not all of you, but I

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01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 2: think a lot of people think that, especially when these

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01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: are pop up charities, not like the Salvation Army or

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01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 2: the Red Cross or the Red Cross. You know you're

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01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 2: donating to their services, but I think a lot of

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01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: people feel like the money is going directly to the people.

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01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 2: That's what it seemed like fire Aid was doing. Fire

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01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 2: Aid was a celebrity concert to help the victims of

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01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 2: the LA wildfires, and they raised one hundred million dollars.

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01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Now come reports that not a single family has seen

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01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: a single dime of that money. Twelve thousand displaced home owners,

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01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: home owners, twelve thousand displaced homeowners and residents, and they

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01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:03,879
Speaker 2: haven't seen any of the cash. So when people started

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01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 2: inquiring about it, they inquired about it from the governor's office.

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Speaker 2: First thing the governor's office did, by the way, was

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01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,759
Speaker 2: go and delete their charity from the list of charity

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01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: organizations that was getting fire Aid money. Turns out the

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01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 2: money wasn't ever going to go to directly to people.

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01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 2: Instead will be disseminated to organizations which will then provide

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01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 2: community support. Now, I don't think that's what people were

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01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: giving money for, and I bet you that is not

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01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 2: what the celebrities thought they were raising money for. You

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01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 2: want to know that someone can rebuild the house that

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01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 2: got burned down, that's what you're giving. Here's a list

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01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 2: of the organism. Some of the organizations there's a bunch

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01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 2: of them. Keep in mind, not one single victim of

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01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 2: the fire has received cash from this one hundred million

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01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:04,480
Speaker 2: dollar chair. Here are some of the organizations that received

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01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: the money that was donated donated by concerned Americans. The

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01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: Animal Wellness Foundation provides housing, food, and medical assistance for

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01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 2: animals affected by the fires. Okay, fine, but priority No,

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01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: maybe they want homes. Baby to Baby distributing supplies to

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01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 2: people with babies. Boys and Girls Club of Pasadena, and

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01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 2: I love the Boys and Girls Club. Why are they

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01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 2: getting fire aid money? The Childcare Alliance of La County

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01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 2: regranting aid to childcare workers. Homegrown Conducting Cleaning and Sanitation

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01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 2: for early childhood education facilities with acute needs. Yeah, this

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01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 2: is one of the organizations just got millions of dollars

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01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 2: from the fire a fund while people are homeless. I'll

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01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 2: read that again. The organization is called home Grown Conducting

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01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 2: cleaning and Sanitation for early childhood education facilities. They cleaned

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01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 2: school bathrooms. The Pasadena Humane Association, Young and Healthy a

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01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 2: healthcare and medical insurance enrollment support for young children and families.

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01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 2: The YWCA, the Clergy Community Coalition Deliverance, Tablenacker Church a

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01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 2: church for seeing me. A bunch of churches on here.

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01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: Why are churches getting the money? Flint Ridge Center Friends

1560
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 2: indeed providing critical resources, distributing essential goods, and offering community

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01:43:53,600 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 2: support to those of the most vulnerable. Harambe Ministries, the

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01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 2: Benevolence fun NAACP, the NAACP of Pasadena got money. What else?

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01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: Santa Monica College, YMC, Metro, the Brotherhood Crusade, California Conservation Corps,

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01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 2: the Conservation Corps, the Native Vote Project financial assistance for

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01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 2: displaced and affected Native families. That's just a few. That's

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01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 2: just a few. You think your money is going to?

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01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:42,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I'm out of words for it.

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01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 2: They've been stealing our money. They have been stealing our

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01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 2: blood and treasure for decades, and we've just been letting

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01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 2: it happen. And we've just been going, Oh, this is

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01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 2: how it is. There's nothing you can do. Oh, I

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01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:59,560
Speaker 2: guess we can't do anything about it. And it's not true.

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01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 2: We saw that in November. It's not true. We actually

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01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 2: don't have to live like this. We actually can do

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01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 2: something with the political will and the right leaders. And

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Speaker 2: I think that is the hope. I hang on to

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Speaker 2: for California too. We've got a gubernatorial election coming up

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Speaker 2: next year. We've got a couple of great candidates. I'm

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01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: all in for Steve Hilton, and it's going to be

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01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 2: really hard to win in this state. But it can

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01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: be done. There are some things happening right now that

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01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 2: can facilitate that it can be done. But it's going

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01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:38,759
Speaker 2: to take hard work and good leadership and brave people

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01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 2: who are willing to say no, we don't have to

1585
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 2: accept the status quo. It should not be just if

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01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 2: someone raises one hundred million dollars for something that should

1587
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 2: go directly to people. That should be everything. Frankly, when

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01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,839
Speaker 2: the government is saying we're sending you support, we're sending relief.

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01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 2: That money should never go to a agency. It should

1590
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 2: always go back to you, right in your pocket. Trump

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01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: is talking about giving quote rebates to quote low income

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01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: American allow. Some of us don't look low income on

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01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 2: a paper, mister Trump, we'd like our rebates too. Whatever

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01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 2: he's talking about. The tariffs are bringing in so much money,

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01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 2: he's talking about giving that money back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 2: Now, yes, there are other places we could put the

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01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: money and shoot put the money. But wouldn't it be

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01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 2: nice for the American people actually see it. Wouldn't it

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01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 2: be nice for us to normalize the idea of us

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01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 2: actually seeing our money come back to us when the

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01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 2: government does good, not just the money they stole from

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01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 2: us that they deigned to give back to us once

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01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 2: a year. Wouldn't it be nice to have that image,

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01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 2: that idea in our mind that that is a thing

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01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 2: that can happen. It is a thing that can happen, Defunding, PBS, MPR,

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01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 2: planned parenthood. There are things that can happen, and we have,

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01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 2: and we happened to them. We made them happen. We

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01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 2: don't have to settle for the status quo anymore. And

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01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to settle, and I don't want

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01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: anyone to rest in their laurels because we nominate, we

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01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 2: elected Trump, and now he is going through everything guns

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01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 2: of blazing, and none of it's gonna work if you

1614
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,879
Speaker 2: don't get in the game too. Everyone has to do something.

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01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 2: We have four years to turn this ship around, and

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01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: even then, all we're doing is giving ourselves some breathing

1617
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 2: space until the Marxists get it together again, and they

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01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,640
Speaker 2: will because they never stop. That means we have to

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01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 2: never stop too all right, thanks for tuning in everyone.

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Speaker 2: Was my pleasure to be with you today, Tony. We'll

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01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 2: be back with you next week. I'm Kira Davis. I've

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01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 2: been filling in for Tony Katz from California, and you've

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01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 2: been listening to Tony Katz today. Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is a man up.