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Speaker 1: So it's a new a people, and it shows that

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Speaker 1: his approval of his management of the federal government has dropped.

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Speaker 1: He's now at thirty three percent approval rating. That's down

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Speaker 1: different from his overall approval rating, which is sitting at

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Speaker 1: thirty six percent according to the AP. So just his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what I think with this, what it

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Speaker 2: comes back to is, look, it's all sort of related

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Speaker 2: to the same thing. Like if things were going well

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Speaker 2: in society, people would say, oh, he's managing the federal

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Speaker 2: government great, because let's face it, the average versus has

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Speaker 2: no concept of how you know, many people don't even

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Speaker 2: know who the vice president is, right, they don't. They're

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Speaker 2: just totally out of touch. They judge things based on

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Speaker 2: how they're impacting them on a daily basis, and when

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Speaker 2: you have not done the things necessary to ensure that

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Speaker 2: people are having a Look, it comes back to affordability,

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Speaker 2: the affordability of living. We talked about this yesterday, where

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Speaker 2: you know, between Costco and Walmart, I was like two

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy dollars in and you know, I bought

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Speaker 2: some things that are going to expand over a week,

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Speaker 2: but by and large it was essentially a week two

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Speaker 2: weeks worth of stuff and hey, it's two seventy large

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Speaker 2: out the door. Can I afford it? Sure? I'm also

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Speaker 2: really good with money and very frugal and have no

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Speaker 2: hobbies in my own existence, so you know, like I

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Speaker 2: can absorb it. But does it sting?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: And I think the bigger deal is it's emotionally deflating

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Speaker 2: for people because there's no sign that's getting any better.

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Speaker 1: Is it sustainable?

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do that now, but can you forever

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Speaker 1: when prices continue to rise.

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Speaker 2: It's basically like being stuck in a relationship. Like when

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Speaker 2: like when people get out of you know, relationships, what

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Speaker 2: do they do? They go to the gym, they improve

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Speaker 2: their physics, you know, their face a blow up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? Is that it's called a

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Speaker 2: blow up?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Because like there's now optimism of whatever thing I was

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Speaker 2: unhappy in, Now I have the opportunity to be better.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm optimistic, right Like I'm I'm I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: it's sort of the same thing here where we're just

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Speaker 2: like in the doldrums of this what you send me

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Speaker 2: that tweet from the guy the other day about how

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Speaker 2: it's basically just other than a more secure border, the

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Speaker 2: continuation of the Joe Biden presidency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's Biden's economy with closed borders.

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Speaker 2: You're right, I mean, and the border is markedly better.

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Speaker 2: I think no one would dispute that. And that's wonderful. Right,

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Speaker 2: if you had to tell me, you can have Biden

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take with the secure border. But Trump

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Speaker 2: has failed, and quite frankly, I Trump and the Republicans

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Speaker 2: which is getting the price of stuff under control, which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and when you think about the forty three day

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Speaker 1: government shutdown, disrupted air travel, delayed, food aid, left hundreds

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Speaker 2: What was the big w There wasn't one. Oh, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think one of the major first of all,

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Speaker 2: He's never gone out and sold the big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 2: But the point is, when you're gonna sell stuff, you've

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Speaker 2: talking about specifically here in Indiana, here's what's better. Here

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Speaker 2: And Trump just doesn't do that. And so people just

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Speaker 2: no light at the end of the tunnel of here's

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Speaker 2: the plan to get us out of this?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean there were bad optics as well, because

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Speaker 1: you had during this government shutdown, he was having parties

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Speaker 1: It's not a good look.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ballrooms of it. I get people going, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's private donation, blah blah blah. Okay, nobody gives money

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Speaker 2: for nothing. We know that, right, But the point is

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Speaker 2: at a time where front and center to every American

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Speaker 2: there is a driving issue, and not only is it

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Speaker 2: if he'd come out now, he won't do this, and

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Speaker 2: the Republicans won't do this because it all comes back

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Speaker 2: to the same thing, which is legalized vote buying. We

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Speaker 2: vote buying. They're an addicts at this point. They're addicted

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Speaker 2: to it. They can't remove themselves from it. If he'd

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Speaker 2: come out from day one and said, this economy is

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Speaker 2: it so hard, we're gonna have to have an honest

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Speaker 2: discussion about how it got screwed up, why it's messed up,

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Speaker 2: and what the I believe we're all adults in this room.

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Speaker 2: I believe in you, and you can hear bad news

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Speaker 2: and go with it. And here is my plan over

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Speaker 2: the next year to curtail federal spending, get these programs

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Speaker 2: under control, get money printing under control, and make stuff

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Speaker 2: more affordable. And if we all buy into this, we're

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Speaker 2: going to feel some pain in the beginning, but a

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Speaker 2: year from now we're gonna be through this.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 2: People would have judged it totally different, Yes, totally different.

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Speaker 1: But that didn't happen. No, And it's all about negative

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Speaker 1: impact on perceptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now it doesn't matter whether he's running

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Speaker 2: the federal government. Well not, well, it's chaotic. The doge

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Speaker 2: thing was ridiculous. They didn't sell that properly. They didn't

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Speaker 2: out numbers. But the people would be like, well, that

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Speaker 2: money still goes back to that government agency. It's not

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Speaker 2: being saved, it's just not being spent. And and and

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Speaker 2: then you know that didn't culminate in any anything.

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Speaker 1: We look at Pam Bondi, how long has she been

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Speaker 1: in the position? Who who what major arrest has happened,