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Speaker 1: There's nothing happening about it. It just keeps going on

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Speaker 1: It's like a huckster. Fraudsters. They're just not facing any

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Speaker 3: People to cheat these fraud themes.

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Speaker 1: They just the oversight is weak and billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: No it is not.

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Speaker 1: I'm a victim because I'm a taxpayer. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Who's at the offices of the inspectors General. These are

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Speaker 2: Our politicians do keep the inspector generals very busy, not

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Speaker 3: And abuse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got these programs that are meant to help

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is what's so frustrating about this is

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Speaker 2: The government at all levels, local, state, federal, but federal especially,

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Speaker 3: It's so much of your money.

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Speaker 2: That they're literally wasting billions and sometimes, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: You know what, let's have a house hearing about this, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that we can scold these people to their faces

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Senate here and gets so much done. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what Josh Holly from Missouri was trying to do.

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Speaker 1: He exposed a staggering reality. This should really enrage you.

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Speaker 1: Up to one trillion dollars, that's one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 3: Where's this money going?

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Speaker 4: Where's this money going to?

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Speaker 5: It goes to terrorism, it goes to child trafficking, it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and people like me and people like you. Here's

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you got to ask why is this

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Speaker 2: Sure they all benefit from this, they better fit. Plenty

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Speaker 2: The Republicans Democrats both had no interest in cleaning any

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Speaker 1: The US government says foreign aid will now go straight

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Speaker 6: The United States has spent billions of dollars over the

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Speaker 1: In goo industrial complex. That's a new phrase from the

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Speaker 1: Back to Marco Rubio, he had one more thing to

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Speaker 2: to Muskin Doge, is if they if they were so

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Speaker 2: upset about this, that meant it was working. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: meant it was working, and it was diminishing their power

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Speaker 2: and influence. And that's why they wanted all of those,

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Speaker 2: you know, doge attempts to just go away,