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Speaker 2: These were the weapons. Was he lawfully carrying the weapons?

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Speaker 3: I don't have that information, and I don't have any

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Speaker 4: Was he dressed at all in.

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Speaker 3: Any it appeared he had there's some black clothing on

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Speaker 2: I guess you could interpret that as you know, however.

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Speaker 5: You like ladies and gentle. So this is happening helping us.

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Speaker 6: A shooting at a minnieap Minneapolis school and church, a

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Speaker 6: These are children, I believe, between kindergarten and eighth grade.

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Speaker 5: Tony cats Katz today, how good to be with you.

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Speaker 6: There was a shooting yesterday that took place outside the CHRISTA.

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Speaker 6: Ray Jesuit High School. This press conference now ending. Six

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Speaker 6: people were shot, one people were one person was killed,

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Speaker 6: which was the question that was being asked about are

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Speaker 5: Tony Kats, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 6: Eight three three four six eight eight six six 's

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Speaker 6: to bring you the very latest on this That was

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Speaker 6: the end of the press conference right there. I will

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Speaker 6: try and re queue that for you and get you

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Speaker 6: the latest that comes from the local Minneapolis police.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 6: This story just breaking. In all of these situations, and

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Speaker 6: by the way, it's not your radio, it's my voice.

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Speaker 6: all of these situations, the initial reporting is not always accurate.

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Speaker 5: More often than not it is inaccurate.

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Speaker 6: I bring it to you as I have the information,

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Speaker 6: desperation to be first. I have none of that desperation.

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Speaker 5: That is not the focus. That's not at all what

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Speaker 6: So here's what we know the basis of what we

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Speaker 5: We have a Minneapolis Catholic.

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Speaker 6: This was the mayor, Jacob Fray, showing up to the

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Speaker 5: To speak about what it is that took place.

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Speaker 7: There are no words that can capture the horror and

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Speaker 7: the evil of this unspeakable act. Children are dead. They

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Speaker 5: Think of this as if it were your own.

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Speaker 6: They're looking to understand what happened, what took place, possibly

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Speaker 6: These people are the ugliest. Why are they like this?

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Speaker 3: My name is Brian O'Hara, b rn o apostrophe haar A.

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Speaker 3: Shooting through the windows, he struck children and worshipers that

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Speaker 3: Seventeen other people were injured, fourteen of them being children.

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Speaker 3: We will stand together to protect our children, our schools,

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm happy to hear that that you're going to

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Speaker 5: It is simply unsafe.

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Speaker 8: Whenever whenever that type of a page goes out again,

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Speaker 2: Did you talk about if the injuries at all or

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Speaker 6: I've been fully briefed on the tragic shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: The FBI quickly respond and they are on the scene.

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Speaker 5: I will have more on this as.

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Speaker 6: I get more information that is indeed verifiable.

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Speaker 5: I am fully aware.

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Speaker 6: That there are people making all sorts of accusations, fully

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Speaker 5: This and who the shooter is and everything else.

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Speaker 6: Until I can verify, I'm not bringing it into the show.

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Speaker 6: I just just won't do it.

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Speaker 5: Keep it here.

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Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. So President

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Speaker 6: And I don't mean that in the majority. I don't

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Speaker 6: I'll more updates to what's going on in Minneapolis. Some

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Speaker 6: I've got more information, of course, the insanity of progressives,

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Speaker 6: all communists lie all the time, all the time, every day, everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 6: If they think of engaging a hypersonic Let's pick Saint

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Speaker 6: So Cracker Barrel decides, you know what, our logo is

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Speaker 6: They're going back to the old logo. Can I be

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Speaker 6: But the ongoing, oh, you're woke because of the logo.

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Speaker 6: Tony Cats Radio. It was a much ado about nothing.

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Speaker 6: By the way, the new logo easier to read. Do

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Speaker 6: You you want to say, this is the worst thing ever, ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: It's just how dare you? And how dare they? And

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Speaker 5: No one ever cared. You cared that when you were.

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Speaker 5: Well, how would I? How would I how would I

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Speaker 6: If the CEO is woke, the CEO is not helpful

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Speaker 5: This is our new logo, that's our direction. Follow me.

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Speaker 6: The CEO is a woman in this case, she didn't

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Speaker 5: What are you doing?

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Speaker 6: You made a change to the identity because you thought

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Speaker 6: That's your customer base. You should have been fired on

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Speaker 5: The logo right, that was just a marketing concept.

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Speaker 6: You changed the identity of the company.

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Speaker 5: And then you said, oops are bad.

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Speaker 5: No, they just brought back regular coke. They branded a

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Speaker 6: That's everything you should not want in a leader, and

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Speaker 6: You go about making that change, and you stick to it,

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Speaker 5: This is the future, this is the direction we're going.

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Speaker 5: Now, that is a garbage rebrand.

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Speaker 6: Cracker Barrel didn't stop serving biscuits and gravy. Cracker Barrel

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Speaker 5: Jaguar is about sophistication.

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Speaker 6: It's about sexiness, It is about masculinity. It is about

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Speaker 6: What do you think Jaguar like, that's the that's that's

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Speaker 6: Which is really weird because it's cracker Barrel.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of you.

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Speaker 6: Know, it'd be like Apple having its logo be a banana.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't doesn't make sense. It's the apple, right.

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Speaker 5: Go go well, hold on, all right, everybody, go take

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Speaker 5: a look. Go take a look. Called well, look at

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Speaker 5: There it is boom with that. See that fits in

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Speaker 6: you very much, thank you, Cleveland Can I if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 6: you can email me and tell me I am wrong.

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Speaker 5: You can email me.

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Speaker 6: Hugh Hewett at yahoo dot com. I have no idea

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Speaker 6: if Hugh has a Yahoo can, but that should be fascinating.

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Speaker 6: So fire the CEO of Cracker Belt. But if we could, please,

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Speaker 6: if we could please stop talking about this, that would

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Speaker 6: be great.

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Speaker 5: The latest on the shooting in Minneapolis, I've got that

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Speaker 5: for you.

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Speaker 6: And the madness of the political left because they do

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Speaker 6: not waste time, keep it here. I'm Tony Katz and

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Speaker 6: this is Tony Kats. Today the political left has wasted

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Speaker 6: no time. You have this shooting that took place at

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Speaker 6: a Catholic school in Minnesota. You have two children dead,

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Speaker 6: you have seventeen children injured. You have a shooter who

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Speaker 6: killed themselves, and there are stories now about the shooter

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Speaker 6: confirming I'll have everything for you the best I can,

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Speaker 6: knowing I have the data and coming up in the

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Speaker 6: next hour.

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Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 5: But what I have.

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Speaker 6: Is CNN engaged in absolute nonsense.

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Speaker 10: It was really disturbing to hear what the man we

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Speaker 10: heard from from.

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Speaker 5: The affiliate said about how.

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Speaker 10: Long it went on. He said, there were several minutes.

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Speaker 10: Now we don't know if that was just from the shooter,

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Speaker 10: or if law enforcement had arrived by then, or the

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Speaker 10: circumstances around that, but he said it sounded like the

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Speaker 10: gun was reloaded several times. It seemed like a rifle,

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Speaker 10: he said, a semi automatic rifle.

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Speaker 11: And it went on for several minutes, right, And that's

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Speaker 11: not uncommon as well. These things can shoot dozens of bullets,

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Speaker 11: you know, in just one trigger pull, right, And.

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Speaker 6: No they can't, and CNN should start firing people.

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Speaker 5: But they don't care. They don't care that they don't know.

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Speaker 6: A semi automatic weapon can't shoot dozens of bullets in

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Speaker 6: a single trigger pole.

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Speaker 5: That's not how it works. I'm not even a gun guy,

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Speaker 5: the Second Amendment guy.

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Speaker 6: I happen to have a fantastic stick firearms sponsor here

485
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Speaker 6: in Indiana.

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Speaker 5: I know the basics.

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Speaker 6: There are people who know far more than I do

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Speaker 6: who can go down the road of this.

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Speaker 5: This is just nonsense.

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Speaker 6: And in a moment where something's happening, correct data matters,

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Speaker 6: and CNN doesn't give a good Holy damn.

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Speaker 5: If they have the correct data, it's enough, We get it.

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Speaker 5: You think everybody should.

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Speaker 6: Be disarmed, except the bad guy is not gonna be disarmed,

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Speaker 6: and the person who wants to do damage is gonna

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Speaker 6: do damage. I want people to be able to protect

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Speaker 6: and defend themselves. No, I'm not getting ready the Second

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Speaker 6: Amendment for you or for anyone.

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Speaker 5: Not about to. It's an insanity of how they go

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Speaker 5: down this road.

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Speaker 6: But don't worry, CNN was not alone because CNN has

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Speaker 6: Amy Klobachar, the Senator from Minnesota, to back them up.

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Speaker 12: And of course makes you think about guns and all

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Speaker 12: the work we've done to ban these automatic rifles and

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Speaker 12: to do something when it comes to the background checks

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Speaker 12: and everything, and we keep getting thwarted. We were able

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Speaker 12: to path limited a measure on a bipartisan basis, but

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Speaker 12: not enough to stop something like this.

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Speaker 5: And do you think it was the gun or do

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Speaker 5: you think it was something else. You don't know who

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Speaker 5: it was, you don't know a motive. All you can do.

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Speaker 6: Is scream guns, my god, Senator Klobachar, At what moment

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Speaker 6: do you realize you're disgusting, that you're a fraud, that

514
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Speaker 6: you're lying, that you're so desperate for this idea of

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Speaker 6: being disarmed that you haven't asked yourself if that's the value,

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Speaker 6: Because you will not address what is the issue. That's cowardly, Senator,

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Speaker 6: and you're the coward. Just so we understand each other,

518
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Speaker 6: just so we can understand who amongst us is despicable,

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Speaker 6: it's you, Senator Amy Klobachar, for that.

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Speaker 5: You didn't pull the trigger, You didn't kill any kids.

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Speaker 5: If we're going to.

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Speaker 6: Rank despicable, the shooter is at the top, screaming about guns.

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Speaker 6: I put forth to you, of anybody in that school,

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Speaker 6: any adults had a firearm, this could have been stopped.

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Speaker 5: You would have had the opportunity.

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Speaker 6: But no, no, everybody who believes in a gun free

527
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Speaker 6: zone is simply saying we're here to be a target.

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Speaker 6: They are all wrong, And to immediately jump into this

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Speaker 6: without a single fact at your disposal, allow me these

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Speaker 6: people think that these shootings take place because there are

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Speaker 6: too many guns.

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Speaker 5: I think it happens.

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Speaker 6: For a whole host of reasons, but I think it

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Speaker 6: is allowed to continue because not enough people with firearms

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Speaker 6: are there to stop them. The problem is not enough

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Speaker 6: people are armed and trained and prepared to stop the

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Speaker 6: bad person when they engage the bad thing, and that

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Speaker 6: is not something you can stop. You cannot social engineer

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Speaker 6: that a way.

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Speaker 5: You took the guns away in the UK, they've got knives.

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Speaker 5: You want to meet a.

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Speaker 6: Fourteen year old Scottish girl who was simply trying to

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Speaker 6: protect herself from a migrant who wanted to assault her.

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Speaker 6: Fourteen year olds that have to carry knives in Scotland,

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Speaker 6: or should she have just.

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Speaker 5: Been a victim? Would it have been better?

547
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Speaker 6: Maybe we should discuss how we create less victims.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we should take a look at underlying causes.

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Speaker 6: Maybe we shouldn't be afraid to discuss the issue because

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Speaker 6: the millions and millions of lawful gun owners in America

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Speaker 6: are the problem and they should not be abused because

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Speaker 6: of your lack of sensing of.

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Speaker 2: The charm.

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Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony kats today.

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Speaker 11: It sure is. Senator you mentioned that.

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Speaker 13: I know that you want to let lie enforcement take

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Speaker 13: the lead here, but you just mentioned that you believe

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Speaker 13: that this individual had some kind of grievance not even

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Speaker 13: related to the school.

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Speaker 11: Is there anything else you can share? Not really.

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Speaker 5: I just think that they have to get to the

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Speaker 5: bottom of this.

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Speaker 12: As you know, with these scenes from covering so many

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Speaker 12: of them, that they'll be rumors and then they're not

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Speaker 12: true and then you figure it out. But I think

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Speaker 12: this image of this gunman shooting through these windows, picking

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Speaker 12: off these kids while they're praying is something that's going

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Speaker 12: to be with people for a long time when you

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Speaker 12: think about guns and you think about as the mayor said,

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Speaker 12: thoughts and prayers just aren't enough here right now because

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Speaker 12: these kids were actually praying.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I do want to listen to that.

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Speaker 5: I want to share with you how twisted that is.

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Speaker 5: This is what that was? His name, Brad Krassenstein? Is

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Speaker 5: that his name? Brad? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: His name might as well be scumbag McGhee Brian Krassenstein,

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Speaker 6: who put out immediately after this the church just got

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Speaker 6: shot up. A praying isn't working. Tony Katz Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 6: allow me for a moment to share a story. First,

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Speaker 6: some background. The background is that there was a shooting

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Speaker 6: that took place at a Catholic school in Minneapolis. This

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Speaker 6: is the Annunciation Catholic School. It was during mass Seventeen

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Speaker 6: children shot. Two have been killed. Seven at last counts

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Speaker 6: were in serious condition at local area hospitals.

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Speaker 5: The shooter took their own life.

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Speaker 6: There is a tremendous amount of information about the shooter

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Speaker 6: that's out there on social media, some from sources I

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Speaker 6: very much trust, including.

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Speaker 5: People who are former law enforcement. When I say I

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Speaker 5: trust them, I do, But holding to my own.

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Speaker 6: Standard, I'm waiting for some other confirmations before i start

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Speaker 6: getting into who I believe this shooter is. The Senator

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Speaker 6: that you just heard there, Amy Klobuchar, who has already

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Speaker 6: come out and said, well, this is about guns. She

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Speaker 6: doesn't know what this is about. But when you are

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Speaker 6: a progressive and you are so twisted, you'll say anything

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Speaker 6: which leads us to again what it is she just

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Speaker 6: said here with the question being asked by CNN anchored Nanabash,

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Speaker 6: it sure.

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Speaker 11: Is, Senator.

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Speaker 13: You mentioned that I know that you want to let

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Speaker 13: law enforcement take the lead here. But you just mentioned

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Speaker 13: that you believe that this individual had some kind of

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Speaker 13: grievance not even related to the school.

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Speaker 11: Is there anything else you can share?

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Speaker 5: Not really. I just think that they have to get

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Speaker 5: to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 12: As you know, with these scenes from covering so many

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Speaker 12: of them, that they'll be rumors and then they're not

611
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Speaker 12: true and then you figure it out. But I think

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Speaker 12: this image of this gunman shooting through these windows, picking

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Speaker 12: off these kids while they're praying is something that's going

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Speaker 12: to be with people for a long time when you

615
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Speaker 12: think about guns and you think about as the mayor said,

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Speaker 12: thoughts and prayers just aren't enough here right now because

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Speaker 12: these kids were actually praying.

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Speaker 6: The level of evil in that statement, the level of

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Speaker 6: wrong in that statement, the level of a total lack

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Speaker 6: of soul in that statement. Just like Brian Krassenstein, Senator

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Speaker 6: of klub Achar there's that leaves you a very special

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Speaker 6: place in hell. Doesn't leave you the same place as

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Speaker 6: this shooter. Probably not, but it's just pure evil. Prayer

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Speaker 6: doesn't work. I tell you now the following story, the

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Speaker 6: extent to which I'm not even sure if I'm allowed

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Speaker 6: to tell, but this happened here locally. It's involved a

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Speaker 6: friend of mine. The story goes that a young girl

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Speaker 6: the age of five is driving with her grandmother, who

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Speaker 6: who has been in care of the girl since the

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Speaker 6: girl's mother was killed, and the grandmother gets into an

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Speaker 6: accident and dies. This has been a reported story. I'm

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Speaker 6: not sharing any information there that I can't share. Was

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Speaker 6: it a medical issue or something else, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: But the force of the accident was so great that

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Speaker 6: the vehicle itself was absolutely unrecognizable. A local er doctor,

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Speaker 6: a friend of mine, happened to be driving by and

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Speaker 6: with the help of somebody else, pulled this girl, amazingly

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Speaker 6: alive in her car seat out of the backseat. We're

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Speaker 6: talking about a car that was so absolutely devastated, so

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Speaker 6: completely torn apart, that the literal front of the.

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Speaker 5: Car was touching.

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Speaker 6: This girl in her car seat in the backseat. Because

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Speaker 6: my friend is an er doctor, he understood that getting

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Speaker 6: this girl out of the car was not only necessary

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Speaker 6: to be able to check on her. But Lord only

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Speaker 6: knows the level of impact here and what issues there.

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Speaker 5: May be to the neck, to the spine, etc.

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Speaker 6: And through his training and through his knowledge and through

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Speaker 6: his years was able to pull this girl out in

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Speaker 6: such a way that today was some weeks later, She's alive,

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Speaker 6: has the use of her extremities, eating on her own,

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Speaker 6: fully cognizant, cogent, and the last I knew, neurologically intact.

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Speaker 6: When I dict us this story with my rabbi, as

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Speaker 6: this was somebody who belonged to my synagogue, a conversation

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Speaker 6: came up that I will divulge, and I assume my

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Speaker 6: Rabbi won't mind where the line that was used by

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Speaker 6: God put this doctor, this er doctor, this friend of

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Speaker 6: mine in the right place at the right times, which

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Speaker 6: I responded, I'm not quite sure how you do that,

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Speaker 6: because where was God? Because this would be the question

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Speaker 6: for the accident. My Rabbi responded by saying nature could

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Speaker 6: cause a health condition that could lead to an accident.

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Speaker 6: One cannot stop nature, but God can put people there

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Speaker 6: to help when the moment is necessary. I'm telling you

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Speaker 6: that is a level of heavy and a thought process

666
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Speaker 6: of which.

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Speaker 5: Has stuck.

668
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 6: This has been weeks, and I don't think that there

669
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 6: is a day that has gone by that I have

670
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 6: not thought of that, you know, I find myself thinking

671
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: of Christopher Hitchins often in his level of intellect and

672
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 6: his level of not only well read but being able

673
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 6: to have a remarkable recall of the data, and his

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00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 6: commentaries on God and how religion makes otherwise good people

675
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 6: do absolutely horrific things. And I have seen that happen,

676
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 6: and I have now seen certainly I shouldn't say now,

677
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 6: but I've seen over the years, and certainly this commentary.

678
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 5: The idea of faith in general.

679
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 6: How is it possible that the guy perfectly trained for

680
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 6: the moment was in the place in the time.

681
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 5: Well, it's coincidence.

682
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe maybe. What I found myself saying about Christopher

683
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 6: Hitchens is that I do not know if he is

684
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: right in his conversations about religion. But he ain't wrong

685
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 6: in engaging the conversation so openly and so directly, and

686
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 6: so clearly, and with such focus, and with such historical

687
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 6: perspective and accuracy, the likes of which that the counter

688
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 6: so absolutely pales in comparison. But I do not know

689
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 6: if my Rabbi is so wrong that there is a

690
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Speaker 6: difference between the two things. That accidents do indeed happen

691
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 6: and was And by the way, that is a speculation

692
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 6: on a health episode.

693
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Speaker 5: Did that happen because they do happen. I only look

694
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Speaker 5: at that.

695
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 6: That story from my rabbi and say to myself, that

696
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 6: is an interesting way to look at it and has

697
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 6: given me pause.

698
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 5: As I said every day since.

699
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Speaker 6: What I absolutely know is that the commentary of Amy

700
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 6: Klobuchar is not that of the intellectual. It is that

701
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 6: of the person devoid of any level of decency.

702
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: Prayer doesn't work.

703
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 6: That has nothing to do with the situation here, nothing

704
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 6: to do with the situation.

705
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: You know, it could have worked.

706
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 6: Armed guards, maybe armed guards on the campus in that spot,

707
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 6: could have stopped a shooter from shooting. Are we going

708
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 6: to find that there was no security at this church?

709
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 6: We're gonna find that nobody in the church was carrying

710
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 6: a firearm. Maybe that could have worked. Are we going

711
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 6: to find that the shooter stole the weapon? Are we

712
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 6: going to find that the shooter lied like Hunter Biden

713
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: did to obtain the weapon?

714
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 5: In this case, three weapons a rifle, shotgun, and.

715
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Speaker 6: A pistol, all of which were used, according to the

716
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Speaker 6: police reporter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't have an answer for you yet.

719
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Speaker 6: But the idea that because this happened during mass prayer

720
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 6: doesn't work is so criminally insane, is so diseased, and

721
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 6: so twisted, and so lost and so broken of a thought,

722
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 6: wonders how somebody could put it.

723
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Speaker 5: Out there when I can point you to.

724
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 6: Person after person after person who will tell you that

725
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Speaker 6: the prayer works.

726
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 5: They believe it, They believe it.

727
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: They will tell you that people who have been sick

728
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 6: were now not sick, that prayers from one side of

729
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 6: the world are felt by people on the other side

730
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Speaker 6: of the world. This isn't based on anything what Amy

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Speaker 6: Klobuchar the Center is saying other than how can I

732
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 6: most effectively turn a screw? How can I most effectively

733
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 6: be dismissive? These people deserve to lose every election. These

734
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 6: are not good people. Whether it's Amy Klobuchar or Brian Krassenseen,

735
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 6: this is diseased. I have sources that I know, like

736
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: and trust that are explaining to me who this shooter is.

737
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Speaker 5: But I'm still waiting.

738
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Speaker 6: I won't share it on my own show where my

739
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 6: name sits on the shingle, because my responsibility to you,

740
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 6: I believe, is so great that while it would be

741
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 6: easy to do, I'll let other people decide to be first.

742
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Speaker 6: I will make sure, I'm right. Amy Klobachar doesn't hold

743
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Speaker 6: the same standard. Thank god. I am not like Amy Klobachar.

744
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Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So

745
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: there's talk of putting the first Lady, Milania Trump, on

746
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 6: the cover of Vanity Fair, and the people over there

747
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 6: at Vanity Fair are saying, I will walk out the

748
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 6: mother blanking door and half my staff will follow me. Well,

749
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 6: all right, if you want to walk out the door

750
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 6: and half your staff is going to follow you, because

751
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 6: you might put the first lady on the cover like

752
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 6: you've done with Joe Biden, like you've done with Michelle Obama. Bye,

753
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 6: what is it? What does it matter to us if

754
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Speaker 6: you walk out the door or not. What kind of

755
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 6: person at this stage of the game is thinking that

756
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 6: there's an issue here? Trump's popular, Milaney is popular. She's

757
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 6: also fashion and in a lot of ways to a

758
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 6: lot of people, and has been involved for years. She

759
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 6: is perfect for Vanity Fair. Why won't you put her

760
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Speaker 6: on the cover? Because Trump is a death spot. We

761
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Speaker 6: are not going to normalize this death spot and his wife.

762
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Speaker 6: We're just not going to do it. We're going to

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Speaker 6: stand for what's right. Oh, well, that's weird. Tony Kats,

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 5: They will sell a tremendous amount.

766
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Speaker 6: Of of magazines and everybody knows it. What they will

767
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Speaker 6: do is somehow upset the left because the left wants to.

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Speaker 5: Deny what is happening.

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Speaker 6: Isn't that exactly the story here that they don't want

770
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 6: to put Malania Trump on a cover because it might

771
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 6: make Donald Trump look normal or human. And when the

772
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 6: goal is to dehumanized, so bad things happen. You got

773
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 6: to say that he's a threat to democracy. You gotta

774
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: say he's a threat to women. You got to say

775
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 6: he's a threat to this, he's a threat to that.

776
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 6: And that way, this call for the lone wolf leads

777
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Speaker 6: somebody to shoot. Don't thank goodness only in the ear.

778
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Speaker 6: But if you put her on the cover, someone might think, well,

779
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Speaker 6: she seems lovely enough. I guess he's not the devil.

780
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Speaker 6: That's not good enough. So that's why they don't put

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Speaker 6: him on the cover or her on the cover. But

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Speaker 6: if you're going to discuss who is fashion, Michelle Obama

783
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Speaker 6: has nothing on Malania Trump. Would argue that Michelle Obama's

784
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 6: first lady you could. You could at least say that

785
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Speaker 6: she presented something to a portion of America that.

786
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Speaker 5: They had not seen. You could. You can easily make

787
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Speaker 5: that argument. Yeah, I didn't say you liked her.

788
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Speaker 6: And she has been outside of of of of the

789
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Speaker 6: White House and over the last few years, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Seemingly.

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Speaker 6: Hateful rather hateful of her time in the White House,

792
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Speaker 6: the ability to be in this position.

793
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: And it has.

794
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Speaker 6: Really shown in this podcast of hers that has gone nowhere,

795
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Speaker 6: and it's you would think it would have gone, you know,

796
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 6: in such in such great ways because of her name.

797
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 6: I d she's damaged herself. She was more popular than

798
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 6: Barack Obama, whom, by the way, has damaged himself greatly.

799
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Speaker 6: Malania Trump is popular. It's not really deniable Milania and

800
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 6: Trump is in many ways more popular.

801
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 5: Than Donald Trump. Come on, what are we all pretending?

802
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 5: Of course she is.

803
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 6: She sends a letter along with the President to give

804
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 6: to to Vladimir Putin stop killing the children.

805
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: And it's the view that's excoriating her for it. What

806
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 5: else is?

807
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 6: What else is the first lady going to do? She's

808
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 6: trying to make a personal appeal. She's utilizing her pulpit

809
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 6: to be able to do just that on a human level.

810
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 5: What's the problem, what's the issue? That's right?

811
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Speaker 6: You can't like it or approve of it, or even

812
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 6: appreciate it because you can't view her as human. Because

813
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 6: if she's human, then Donald's human and you can't.

814
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 5: So it goes do I think Benity Fair will do it.

815
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Speaker 6: I think they will because it's going to create controversy.

816
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 6: They're gonna sell magazines. I don't know if they'll lose

817
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 6: a sponsor. They might lose some some subscriptions. But yeah,

818
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 6: even the Washington Post survived it. John Justice is a

819
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 6: radio host out of Minneapolis.

820
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 5: He's got the latest on the shooting there. Keep it here.

821
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Speaker 5: It's Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 6: So we have this shooting in Minneapolis at a Catholic school.

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Speaker 6: Two children dead, seventeen injured. At last report it was

824
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Speaker 6: seven at local hospitals. That number could have gone up.

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 6: John Justice joins me right now, a radio host on

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Speaker 6: Twin Cities news Talk AM eleven thirty FM one oh

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Speaker 6: three point five in Minneapolis, does a morning show there.

829
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Speaker 5: We've known each other coming up in radio.

830
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Speaker 6: For years, and you had just gotten off the air,

831
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 6: heard about this story, and immediately for your local audience,

832
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 6: preempted your programming, got back on the air.

833
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 5: Walk me through it.

834
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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 6: We've heard from your mayor, Jacob Pray, we heard from

836
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Speaker 6: your police chief Brian O'Hara. Give us the latest as

837
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Speaker 6: you know of what's going on there in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you will allow me, we do have a

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Speaker 4: suspect who has been identified according to Alpha News. If

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Speaker 4: you'd like me to share that with your with your audience.

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Speaker 6: We will get to that in one second. I've been

842
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 6: holding off because I wanted the confirmation. I have no

843
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 6: problem with you giving an occene sources I know like

844
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Speaker 6: in trust with this, but I really wanted to make

845
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Speaker 6: sure I had it.

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Speaker 5: So let's start with the what happened as you heard

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Speaker 5: it and what as we know right now.

848
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Speaker 4: So we were in the middle of doing the show,

849
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Speaker 4: and almost instantly, right around eight thirty five, I began

850
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 4: to hear of my listeners, you know, people contacting me

851
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: online through x that they were getting reports of multiple

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00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 4: law enforcement agencies descending on an undisclosed location in South Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: And I want to stress that we had spent the

854
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Speaker 4: show a portion of the show talking about a separate

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00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 4: mass shooting event in which some six or seven people

856
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 4: were shot yesterday in the afternoon. I think that resulted

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Speaker 4: in one depth, but they were calling a mass shooting.

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Speaker 4: So we had a circumstance already where law enforcement, which

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Speaker 4: is already stretched sin in Minneapols because we don't have

860
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 4: million up cops, were already stretched SIN. So there was

861
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Speaker 4: a lot of sort of confusion when the reports first

862
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: started coming out, because we were already talking about a

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Speaker 4: mass shooting. And then I began getting the reports of

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Speaker 4: what we ended up the gearing, and that was some

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Speaker 4: twenty individuals involved in the shooting. And it was probably

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Speaker 4: shortly after nine o'clock Tony, that we began to really

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Speaker 4: get the details of this taking place at a Catholic

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Speaker 4: school during a mass And you know, since then, you know,

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Speaker 4: as the reports have gone on, we now know that,

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Speaker 4: you know, some twenty children were injured. We know for sure,

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Speaker 4: at least the last that I saw, three individuals were dead,

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Speaker 4: two children, and also the shooter from a self and

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00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 4: inflicted gunshot wound. But there are some eleven to twelve

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Speaker 4: children that have been going through various procedures at two

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Speaker 4: different medical facilities in Minneapolis. It's just, you know, it's

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Speaker 4: one of those situations where you're in the middle of

877
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 4: reporting this stuff and it takes a little bit of

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00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 4: time because you're in the thick of it to really,

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00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 4: you know, allow the gravity of what's transpiring to hit you.

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00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: And that's kind of where I am right now, moving

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Speaker 4: off of the radio broadcasting aspect of it, and now

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Speaker 4: really come into grips with just how horrific this this

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Speaker 4: event event is. It's just an unbelievable tragedy.

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Speaker 6: Talking to John Justice, Minneapolis radio host on Twin Cities

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Speaker 6: News Talk, we had had the number at seven in

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Speaker 6: terms of those in local hospitals.

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Speaker 5: That number has gone up.

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Speaker 6: Was there anything from your chief ohio there regarding security

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Speaker 6: at this church?

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Speaker 5: Did anybody have anything to say? Is there any.

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Speaker 6: Knowledge about whether or not is this a campus that

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Speaker 6: has gates? Was this a campus that had any level

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Speaker 6: of security on it, or was it just a church

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Speaker 6: in a neighborhood that was particularly sought after.

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Speaker 4: My understanding is the latter that just this was an

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Speaker 4: Annunciation Catholic church combination school, and it was what you

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Speaker 4: would typically find of a Catholic school and church. My

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Speaker 4: understanding is that it was wide open, and from what

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Speaker 4: we know the detail so far, this shooter certainly took

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Speaker 4: advantage of that, starting his attack out I shooting through the.

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Speaker 5: Glass stained windows of the.

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Speaker 4: Chapel of the church where the mats was taking place.

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Speaker 4: Before again my understanding this is all fluid, before entering

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Speaker 4: the back of the church and continuing his attack. He

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Speaker 4: had three different weapons on him at the time, and

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Speaker 4: from all the reporting that we've seen, he was unhindered

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Speaker 4: in taking place. As a matter of fact, I just

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Speaker 4: found out that I live about twenty minutes about nineteen

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Speaker 4: miles north of Minneapolis, so I'm kind of in the

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Speaker 4: suburbs of an area called Blaine. I just found out

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Speaker 4: as I got home that we have a young couple

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Speaker 4: across the street that we're friends with. We you know,

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Speaker 4: spend time with them, We go walking with their dogs.

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Speaker 4: The young wife, she worked at this church and school,

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Speaker 4: left Minneapolis a few years ago because of the increase

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Speaker 4: in crime, and her mother still works at this at

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Speaker 4: this location. So I mean, talk about hitting close to home.

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Speaker 4: But my understanding to your initial question there, Tony, was Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it appears from from what I know that this was

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Speaker 4: this was a vulnerable location that didn't have any security.

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Speaker 6: We had already heard from the mayor, Jacob Pray who

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Speaker 6: said prayer doesn't work right, these kids were praying.

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Speaker 5: You had your your Senator Amy.

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Speaker 6: Klobuchar going on CNN saying exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 5: And I will get to that at another.

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Speaker 6: Time with you, uh for for commentary and how and

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Speaker 6: a sotain see that.

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Speaker 5: But you have data on who this suspect is.

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Speaker 6: As I said, I have sources I know I can

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Speaker 6: trust people we both know together. We've been in conferences

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Speaker 6: together and we've spoken to who have been sharing this information. Uh.

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Speaker 6: John Justice, radio host from Minneapolis. There heard every morning

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Speaker 6: on Twin Cities news Talk, what can you tell us

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Speaker 6: about the alleged suspect?

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Speaker 4: So with Colin with without the news, she comes on

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Speaker 4: my she's actually all my show this morning and joined

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Speaker 4: me when I continued the live broadcast with the reporting.

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Speaker 4: She's a fantastic quark. So I trust sharing this. But

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Speaker 4: multiple sources are confirming that this Robin Westman is the

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Speaker 4: gunman in the mass shutting at the Annunciation Catholic School.

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Speaker 4: It appears that Robert has has has changed his name

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Speaker 4: to Robin, his mom was the teacher at the school itself,

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Speaker 4: and he's posted what is being shared wildly online which

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Speaker 4: is implicuately taking down. But there is a manifesto and

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Speaker 4: a video where he lays out his intention with great

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Speaker 4: specificity online for everybody to see. He targeted the school

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Speaker 4: specifically has anti Christian statements based off of the statements.

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Speaker 2: That he made.

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Speaker 4: Assuming this alleged an individual is indeed the shooter. And

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Tony, when I go on the air

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Speaker 4: on my show tomorrow, I'm gonna have a lot to

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Speaker 4: say because there has been a lot of anti Christian

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Speaker 4: sentiment here in Minneapolis, in Minnesota specifically with a lot

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Speaker 4: of pundits that have been attempting to use Vance Velter,

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Speaker 4: who of course was the shuter in the attempted assassination

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Speaker 4: and assassination of the lawmakers here back in June. They

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Speaker 4: have been really writing many anti Christian articles or of

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Speaker 4: the course of the past two weeks trying to you know,

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Speaker 4: you have your anti Semitism, We know about that, but

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Speaker 4: there is a vein of an anti Christian mentality that's

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Speaker 4: been professionally fare in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 5: To you, it is not a vein.

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Speaker 6: It is absolutely something that has mainstreamed and it has

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Speaker 6: existed for four years. Talking to John Justice, radio host

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Speaker 6: out of Minneapolis, people that we know, radio host Rob

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Speaker 6: o'donald out of Pennsylvania who spends his time in New

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Speaker 6: York law enforcement. As a detect of there was not

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Speaker 6: only showing have we seen other people posting this manifesto

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Speaker 6: which is allegedly written in a small red spiral notebook,

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Speaker 6: but photos of the magazines utilized because there was a rifle,

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Speaker 6: there was a shotgun, There was a pistol with notes

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Speaker 6: written on the magazines, allegedly one saying killed Donald Trump,

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Speaker 6: one saying ha ha things like that, and possibly a

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Speaker 6: map of or a drawing of a rendering of the church,

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Speaker 6: the pews, et cetera. Have you seen this as anybody

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Speaker 6: in Minneapolis law enforcement or others have been able to

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Speaker 6: confirm this.

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Speaker 4: It is this manifesto. I'm actually looking at it right

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Speaker 4: now as we speak online. That was the video as

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Speaker 4: rolling as we were as we were talking when I

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Speaker 4: pulled this up from the posting from Liz Collin. Yes,

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Speaker 4: this manifesto is absolutely attached to this Robin Westman and

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Speaker 4: according to Liz Collins sources, and I spoke to her

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Speaker 4: just before I talk to you, because I wanted to

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Speaker 4: make sure as well, just like you, that you know,

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Speaker 4: we're talking about information that's credible. You know, she has

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Speaker 4: had multiple sources inside of the law enforcement. Her husband,

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Speaker 4: Bob Carl used to be a president of the police,

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Speaker 4: the Minneapolis Police Officers Union in Minneapolis. So yes, this

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Speaker 4: has been attached to this particular individual, and it comes

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Speaker 4: on the heels of the commentary from Governor Tim Walls,

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Speaker 4: you know, earlier this week. I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: saw that taking place at this DNC convention in Minneapolis

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Speaker 4: that is still ongoing this week. The level of rhetoric

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Speaker 4: that's out there is stunning, especially in the wake of

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Speaker 4: what we're now what we're now seeing with this potential

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Speaker 4: shooter in this strategy.

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Speaker 6: So the DNC, which has happened their summer conference there,

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Speaker 6: they've been adding rules to their platform. They did end

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Speaker 6: the conference early because of this shooting. But as you

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Speaker 6: give us the information about this alleged shooter, and this

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Speaker 6: is a conversation of a man.

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Speaker 5: Who thought and wanted to describe himself as a woman.

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Speaker 6: Going back to twenty twenty allegations that that's when a

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Speaker 6: name change tried to happen. Here, you have your Senator

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Speaker 6: Amy Klobachar, You've got your mayor, You've got others on

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Speaker 6: the political left who want to immediately talk about guns,

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Speaker 6: only talk about guns. And I'm not going to argue

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Speaker 6: that a gun wasn't used here to do something horrific,

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Speaker 6: but rather, will there be in Minnesota a conversation about

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Speaker 6: the so called trans community, mental health and what's happening,

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Speaker 6: because this isn't the first instance.

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Speaker 4: No, I listen, I certainly will be having that conversation.

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Speaker 4: I do not have much faith in the rest of

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Speaker 4: the medium here in Minneapolis, here in Minnesota to have

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Speaker 4: that conversation beyond those you know, those outlets like myself.

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Speaker 4: But no, this is going to be ignored and it

1018
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Speaker 4: shouldn't be. When you have Governor Tim Walls earlier this week,

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Speaker 4: you know, using dee human eye a language. I'm going

1020
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Speaker 4: to go there on President Donald Trump when he says

1021
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Speaker 4: that thing sitting in the White House, when he continues

1022
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Speaker 4: to call Republicans fascists. And this is an individual who,

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Speaker 4: in the wake of the shouting of Melissa Hortman, the

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Speaker 4: lawmaker back in June, who he was friends with when

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Speaker 4: he took to the to the podium in the wake

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Speaker 4: of that of that shooting during that press conference, and

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Speaker 4: Governor Tim Waal said we need to do better. He says,

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Speaker 4: we need to tone down the rhetoric, We need to

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Speaker 4: act on our better graces. He used Melissa Hortman as

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Speaker 4: the example that we should all emulate. She was a

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Speaker 4: good person. I'm not saying that at all, but every

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Speaker 4: single time Governor Tim Walds has had the opportunity, he's

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Speaker 4: shown the exact opposite, you know, in in the level

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Speaker 4: of rhetoric that he spews whenever he gets behind a microphone,

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Speaker 4: and that is certainly now even more egregious in the

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Speaker 4: wake of this horrific, this erific event taking place. Said no,

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't expect a deep conversation over the

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Speaker 4: background of this individual. As a matter of fact, I

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Speaker 4: expect that the media here in Minneapolis and Minnesota is

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Speaker 4: going to do its best to vary this aspect of

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Speaker 4: this alleged shooter as quickly as they can.

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Speaker 6: John Justice from Twin Cities News Talk in Minneapolis, I

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Speaker 6: appreciate you taking the time to be with us much

1044
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Speaker 6: more to get to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Keep it right here. I'm Tony Kaks. This is Tony

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Speaker 5: Kaks today.

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Speaker 14: A break and trust between police and community, especially with

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Speaker 14: new federal partners in our community. We know having masked

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Speaker 14: ice agents in the community has not worked. In national

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Speaker 14: guards from other states has not been an efficient use

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Speaker 14: of those resources. What still needed in the city. We're

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Speaker 14: going to continue to need more police. We continue to

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Speaker 14: need more prosecutors, more judges, more effective prevention programs.

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Speaker 5: And so the federalizing isn't working. But you need more police.

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Speaker 6: That's the mayor of DC, Muriel Bowser. I'm not quite

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Speaker 6: sure how you make that argument, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 6: Good to be with you, and I'll get into more

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Speaker 6: of that on the show about what is and isn't effective,

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Speaker 6: Why the political left.

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Speaker 5: Why.

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Speaker 15: They continue to be opposed to the idea of safety

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Speaker 15: and security every single time.

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Speaker 5: They're on the wrong side of everything.

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Speaker 6: But really quick, it will be for many people, and

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Speaker 6: certainly we're gonna get more information. I will still wait

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Speaker 6: for more information to come out. I have long known

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Speaker 6: John Justice. He is a good, good guy, and I

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Speaker 6: trust that what he brought to the table here was

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Speaker 6: the very best reporting that he had sourced reporting. I

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Speaker 6: will continue to do that. I probably won't get into

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Speaker 6: it for the rest of the show, and I'll come

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Speaker 6: back to it tomorrow. But people are going to say

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Speaker 6: that you can't talk about this if, indeed, as we

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Speaker 6: see it from all this information, that this shooter was transgender,

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Speaker 6: and you can't say that about this group of people,

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Speaker 6: you can't.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we can.

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Speaker 6: And as we get all the information together, we now

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Speaker 6: if everything does play out as we believe it to

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Speaker 6: be right now, because these things do change, you know,

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Speaker 6: one's a data points use a connection, three is a yeah,

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Speaker 6: others will be afraid to have this conversation in very

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Speaker 6: direct tones.

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Speaker 5: We will not be those people. We can't be those people.

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Speaker 5: We've got a problem.

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Speaker 6: And the progressive wants to say the problem is guns,

1087
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Speaker 6: and I put forth to you that is not the problem.

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Speaker 5: As a gun owner, I am not the problem.

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Speaker 6: Find everything at Tony kats dot com radio show.

1090
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Speaker 5: So much more to get to you, guys. Glad you're here.

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Speaker 5: This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Line from val Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 6: The most interesting storyline to come out of President Trump

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Speaker 6: engaging in Washington, d C. As he has is this

1096
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Speaker 6: idea that somehow everything was fine, crime is not a problem.

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Speaker 6: Why is President Trump doing this? It's very peculiar, It

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Speaker 6: is surreal in many ways. Why not just admit what

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Speaker 6: you know to be true, that there is an issue

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Speaker 6: across the country, in a multiplicity of states, in a

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Speaker 6: multiplicity of cities, progressive run cities where crime is a problem.

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Speaker 6: It's because you have the wrong approach, in an unwillingness.

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Speaker 6: It's because you believe that police are the problem as

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Speaker 6: opposed to the criminals.

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Speaker 5: Being the problem.

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Speaker 6: Now, I'll agree with you that there are police who

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Speaker 6: are problems, and I favor throwing those guys off the force.

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Speaker 6: I favor throwing some of them in jail for some

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Speaker 6: of the things that they do. But it doesn't take

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Speaker 6: away from the fact that the crime is the issue,

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Speaker 6: and allowing the crime to transpire without repercussion that only

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Speaker 6: encourages more crime.

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Speaker 5: I believe the data on that is solid.

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you

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Speaker 6: find everything at Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: I'd appreciate it if you would.

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Speaker 6: They refuse to accept it, and you get into conversations

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Speaker 6: like this on CNN.

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Speaker 16: We know the president for two things. To your point, sure, Michael, right,

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Speaker 16: it is the feelings versus the facts. We saw that

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Speaker 16: in the twenty twenty four election, of course, when it

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Speaker 16: came to the economy and how people actually felt about

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Speaker 16: it despite the numbers.

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Speaker 11: We know how challenging that was for Democrats.

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Speaker 16: Karen, It's also true that Donald Trump is masterful when

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Speaker 16: it comes to controlling a narrative. The question for you,

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01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 16: which I know you're sick of, but as we talk

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Speaker 16: about the messaging, are Democrats starting to find their footing

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Speaker 16: here or is this still a matter of straddling this

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Speaker 16: line between not taking the bait and also hitting back.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think it's about speaking to the concerns of

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 17: the American people.

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Speaker 5: And you know, here's what I would say.

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Speaker 17: The way people are actually feeling in some places is

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 17: they're happy about the fact that crime rates are actually

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01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 17: going down. I've seen it in my own neighborhood here

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01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 17: in DC. And so it's really actually about being smart

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01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 17: on crime. And Donald Trump always wants to make it

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01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 17: about tough on crime and this performative putting in the

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 17: National Guard, you know, on the streets it's not performative.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, it's the allergies. It's the allergy screwn with my voice.

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 6: I'm fine, I am healthy as can be. I right

1143
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 6: now could do a burpie in three pushups.

1144
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 5: Honestly, I might be the fit.

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01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 6: I might be more fit than Robert Kennedy. That's how

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 6: strong I am. But the allergy screw with the voice.

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 6: And it happened when I moved to the Midwest. And

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 6: that's the only bad thing about living in the Midwest.

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Speaker 5: I'll take it.

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Speaker 6: I will take Yeah, you lose your voice like twice

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01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 6: a year, but you can afford your house, sald S.

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 5: What else? What else you got for me? Low taxes?

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll take this Midwest living any day of the

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01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 6: week and twice on Sunday.

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 5: Good gosh, small price to pay.

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Speaker 6: Indeed, But this continual idea that it's performative. So he says,

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01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 6: tough on crime, how should he say it? Like a

1158
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 6: beta male freak to wear your own think tanks on

1159
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 6: the left tell you, Karen Finney of CNN not to

1160
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 6: talk that way. It was the group third way. It

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 6: was published in an article by Politico saying, hey, here

1162
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 6: are forty seven terms that the left should stop using

1163
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 6: like unhoused, they're homeless, right, don't use undocumented they are

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01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 6: legal immigrants.

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01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 5: There's real words for these things.

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 6: And then there's the nonsense that the left throws at

1167
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 6: you as if somehow it's intellectual, but really, what it's

1168
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 6: meant to do is prevent you from having an honest conversation.

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01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 6: And Americans very gladly and finally have seen through that

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 6: I'm not just talking I'm not talking about you, I'm

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01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 6: talking about others. And so now it's so backfired on

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01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 6: the left that they're saying, don't use this terminology, and

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01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 6: that's good news. Now they'll invent other nonsense bull craft terminology.

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 6: You can know that as well as I do. That's

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 6: exactly what they're gonna do, because honesty is not allowed

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01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 6: in their ideology. But it's not performative when arrests are

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Speaker 6: taking place, when illegal immigrants and criminals are being taken

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Speaker 6: off the streets. Just because they're an llegal immigrant doesn't

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Speaker 6: mean they've engage in other criminal activity. But there are

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 6: definitely people who are here illegally who have engaged in

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 6: other illegal activity. And then Karen Kinney, Karen Finny, goes

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01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 6: into this, Many of us in.

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01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 17: DC do not feel like that's actually making us safer.

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Speaker 17: For one, they're not actually going to the places where

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01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 17: crime is the worst. And if you look at cities

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 17: like Baltimore, like Chicago, they're not just blue cities. They

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 17: are also sanctuary cities. And there are also all cities

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 17: run by black mayors and have large Black and Latino population.

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Speaker 6: Then we should wonder why they're sanctuary cities. Is there

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Speaker 6: something about being black and being a sanctuary city. I mean,

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01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 6: that's the argument that she's making. I want her to

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Speaker 6: explain that. But there is an argument being a progressive

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 6: and engaging in sanctuary cities and a true hatred for

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 6: America and for the American way of life and for

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Speaker 6: safety insecurity.

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Speaker 5: And so yes, we go at those cities.

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Speaker 6: And if you want to claim it racism, I must

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01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 6: tell you, Karen, we don't care. We don't care that

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Speaker 6: you call it racism. You know who else doesn't care?

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Speaker 6: The black people who live in those cities who would

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 6: like to see somebody help them, because the mayor shore

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Speaker 6: as Hell isn't and you shore as Hell isn't, isn't.

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Speaker 5: Aren't you sure as hell? Aren't you sure as hell

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 5: aren't much better, Tony, thank.

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 6: You, you're not helping, you don't care, and if you

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01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 6: don't feel like it's making you safer, that's wonderful. Didn't

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01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 6: ask your feelings are based on what you do when

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Speaker 6: you show up at CNN. They're not based on anything real.

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Speaker 6: That brings us to this commentary on Late Night CNN,

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01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 6: which is once again a prime example.

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Speaker 5: Of your right and they're lying to you. We start

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 5: with Scott Jennings just laying out the situation.

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Speaker 18: Are people saying, Scott that they'd like to have a

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Speaker 18: dictator if it stops crime?

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Speaker 19: Well, I think people are certainly saying that they'd like

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01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 19: to stop crime, whatever you call it. I saw Harvard

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01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 19: a Harris poll today. I think fifty four percent of

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 19: Americans thought what he did and Washington, DC was justified.

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01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 19: Fifty six percent of Americans think crime is a major

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 19: problem in larger fifty six percent thought major crime in

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Speaker 19: large cities was a problem. So he seems to have

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Speaker 19: some political support for this U And look, I mean,

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01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 19: it's kind of a bread and butter political issue that

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 19: gets debated all the time. And what he has done

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 19: here is he's put himself on the side of I

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Speaker 19: want to do what I can do and even if

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Speaker 19: I have to test my authority to stop crime. And

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Speaker 19: my political opponents are now out having a meltdown because

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Speaker 19: I guess they want to support the ongoing crimes.

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Speaker 5: In their blue cities.

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Speaker 19: So he's created a real political bright line between the

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Speaker 19: two parties. However it works at legally, is going to

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Speaker 19: work for him politically, Yes, And.

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Speaker 5: I think that's one hundred percent accurate.

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Speaker 6: It's working for him politically, drawing this line between the

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 6: political right and rational people them who might not be

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01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 6: on the political right just want the crime to end,

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 6: they want things to be better, and people who are

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01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 6: only political on the political left saying how dare Trump

1240
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 6: want to stop crime? Now comes from CNN, from one

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Speaker 6: of their people, the honesty that they did not mean

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Speaker 6: to say.

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Speaker 18: On the right line, I think that people want crime

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,839
Speaker 18: to go down. No one wants crime in their communities.

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Speaker 18: That is clear. We saw that, We've seen that over

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Speaker 18: the next last few months. People don't want the National

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Speaker 18: Guard in their communities. That's completely different. And just as

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Speaker 18: you pointed out, there are other mechanisms for the federal

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01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 18: government meant to come in and to help communities and

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 18: that is FBI and DEA and providing grants to educational

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01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 18: grants so that we are providing educational services to young

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Speaker 18: you to get them off the streets. There are things

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01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 18: like that that the federal government can do and that

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01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 18: will actually help in the long term reduce crime. It

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 18: was already reducing crime in the Biden administration. Biden didn't

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Speaker 18: go out and put the National Guard everywhere, but you

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 18: know what, they did have a strategy to bring down crime,

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01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 18: and crime started to go down. And what's going to

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 18: happen here is in one month and once the National

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Speaker 18: Guard leaves, crime will go up again.

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Speaker 6: And that's the honesty, and of course Scott Jennings picks

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Speaker 6: up on it immediately.

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Speaker 5: Don't words here're saying the card does bring down crime.

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Speaker 18: Well, right now they're arresting everyone and anyone and trying

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Speaker 18: to figure out what they're going.

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Speaker 5: To bring They're not arresting everyone in anyone. That's just

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01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 5: not the case.

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Speaker 6: Of course, crime is going down because you're seeing so

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 6: much happening on the streets. But the real admission here

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 6: is that crime is there. It didn't go down with

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden. It didn't go away. It wasn't manageable or reasonable.

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Speaker 6: It was a problem.

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Speaker 5: Why not say so? Now, if you ask.

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Speaker 6: Me whether or not I favor soldiers on street corners,

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Speaker 6: the answer is no. I think that's the sign of

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 6: an unhealthy society. Listen, I'm a guy who likes to

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Speaker 6: go to Israel, beIN.

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to go back in October. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if I'm going to make that happen. I might hold

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 5: off on that trip.

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Speaker 6: And you'll see soldiers everywhere, and the soldiers are there

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Speaker 6: to maintain as much safety as as they can.

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Speaker 5: I understand this. I accept this.

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Speaker 6: I understand why this is their society. That's not a

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Speaker 6: healthy society.

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Speaker 5: You know that, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, for anything we want to discuss about Israel,

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Speaker 6: let's be clear that the way they live is totally unhealthy.

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01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 6: They have to live this way. They have to force

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Speaker 6: people into the military. They have to. We understand why.

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Speaker 6: And the vast majority of Israelis have no problem with this.

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Speaker 6: Believe this is a part of their of their national pride,

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01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 6: identity however you want to call that, and are happy

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Speaker 6: to serve, except for the ultra Orthodox, whom I am

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01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 6: disgusted with. The ultra Orthodox of Israel are ultra Orthodox Jews.

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 6: They're as wrong as wrong can be. They're embarrassing, they

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01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 6: are shameful, they are ridiculous. Anybody's got a problem with it,

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Speaker 6: Email me Tony at tonycats dot com and I will

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 6: tell you with all bits of clarity.

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Speaker 5: Get kakamafam you on. I will.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to worry about what it meant. Trust me,

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01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 6: I'm not interested in your nonsense.

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 5: If you believe that your job.

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01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 6: Is solely in the exclusively to study the Bible, to

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01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 6: study Torah, that's hard to do when you're dead.

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01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 5: Now, some people will tell you no, no, no, we want

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Speaker 5: them doing that because we don't want them in this

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Speaker 5: other thing.

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Speaker 6: And there's also a belief that that study is actually helpful. Right,

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Speaker 6: So there's a really interesting religious faith part in this.

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Speaker 6: I argue, you cannot study if you are not alive.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know why I just went off on

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Speaker 6: a tangent there about the ultra Orthodox. I've read an

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Speaker 6: article the other day and it's just been on my mind.

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Speaker 6: But please don't think I'm okay with everything that Israel does.

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Speaker 5: That is not the case.

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Speaker 6: But it is the sign of a serious issue when

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Speaker 6: you have to recruit women into the military. I don't

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Speaker 6: mind women in the military. I think it's a sign

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Speaker 6: of a serious issue when you have to recruit them

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Speaker 6: into the military. I think it's a sign of a

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01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 6: serious issue when you have to have a draft. I

1323
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 6: think it is a sign of a serious, serious societal wrong.

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Speaker 6: That we are a volunteer force is everything that makes

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Speaker 6: us great in America. If we needed to engage a draft,

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying we shouldn't. I am just saying that

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Speaker 6: if that moment ever came again, that's the sign of

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Speaker 6: a problem. That's the sign that we have failed in

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Speaker 6: some major capacity. But going back to the levels of

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Speaker 6: crime here, the National Guard brings down crime, The show

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01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 6: of force brings down crime. And what really we can

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 6: actually break this down to even further is that the

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Speaker 6: willingness to do something about the crime brings down crime.

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Speaker 6: Everyone who wanted to cause a problem in DC now

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01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 6: knows there is a consequence to cause a problem in DC.

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Speaker 6: That's correct. You right now are shaking your head being like,

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01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 6: who didn't know this? You have you have to not

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Speaker 6: only draw the line, you have to stand to the line,

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 6: and you have to wrap people in the knuckles when

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Speaker 6: they step over the line. That's how they know there's

1341
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 6: a line. You have to live up to your word.

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Speaker 6: You have to say we don't allow this, and then

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 6: not allow it. And what the left has done is

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01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 6: they have allowed everything. I don't oppose the idea of,

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Speaker 6: for example, social workers in a police force. I oppose

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01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 6: the idea of social workers. When you need to stop

1347
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 6: the violent thing happening, you won't talk them off the ledge.

1348
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Speaker 6: I have seen people get tased and walk right through it.

1349
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Speaker 6: You think the social worker is going to get through.

1350
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 6: That's not how it works. And yet you have these

1351
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 6: people who want to say, we've got a problem with

1352
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 6: policing and we need to do something about policing. This

1353
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 6: is the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, the absolute fool

1354
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 6: that he is engaged in a conversation of the last

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01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 6: thing in the world that we need it is more policing.

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01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 6: It's policing. That's the problem. We've seen this before. It

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01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 6: doesn't work. He's screaming and yelling about how it doesn't work.

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Speaker 6: What are you referring to that somehow policing doesn't work.

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Speaker 20: As the mayor of this city, I can tell you

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Speaker 20: that Chicagoans are not calling for military occupation. They are

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 20: calling for the same thing that we've been calling for

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Speaker 20: for some time, and that's investment.

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Speaker 5: What safe cities across.

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Speaker 20: America all have in common, they invest in people, and

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Speaker 20: that's what we're doing in Chicago. We need the federal

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Speaker 20: resources to make sure that we're building more affordable housing,

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Speaker 20: expanding mental and behavior health care, education, all of these

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Speaker 20: things that could reduce crime and provide real community safety.

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Speaker 20: Instead of spending hundreds of millions of dollars for a

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01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 20: publicity stunt to invoke chaos and terror, the federal government

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01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 20: should spend that money on proven solutions to crime and

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Speaker 20: violence reduction. We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence.

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Speaker 20: We've already tried that. If we've ended up with the

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Speaker 20: largest prison population in the world without solving the problems

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Speaker 20: of crime and violence, the addiction on jails and incarceration

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01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 20: in this country, we have moved past that. It is racist,

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01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 20: it is immoral, it is unholy, and it.

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Speaker 5: Is not the way to drive violence down.

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Speaker 6: Well, your way certainly doesn't work. Your way doesn't work.

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Speaker 6: Certainly getting people off the streets does. Certainly, getting legal

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01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 6: immigrants off the streets will would reduce crime.

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Speaker 5: Because it would prevent the ability from crime to happen.

1383
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 6: But it's about an approach. It's about a philosophy. And

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01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 6: your philosophy is don't police, And the working philosophy is

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01:26:54,520 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 6: do something about the crime, engage a deterrent, engage strength.

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01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 6: So yes, Scott Jennings point is it holds. That's the line,

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Speaker 6: that's the bright line. Who knows if Trump will be

1388
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 6: able to continue this past thirty days. Who knows if

1389
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 6: he'll be able to engage the National Guard in Chicago.

1390
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 6: But the left does come out against crime. And by

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01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 6: the way, jails are not the issue. What we put

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 6: people in jail for is the issue. That's what we criminalize.

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Speaker 6: See if we said we're not going to criminalize holding

1394
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 6: announce a pot, okay, should we criminalize theft and rape

1395
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 6: and assault? Because if you say no to that, well

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Speaker 6: then my point's even further proven. I'm Tony Katz. This

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01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 6: is Tony Kats today, Frontier Airlines taking over routes from

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Speaker 6: Spirit Airlines.

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Speaker 5: It's only all listen to that voice.

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01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 6: It's only a matter of when it's the alogies, guys,

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01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 6: it is Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be

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Speaker 6: with you.

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01:27:58,800 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 5: Spirit.

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01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 6: It doesn't think they're going to be able to continue operations.

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01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 6: They said so a few weeks ago. They've got in

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01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 6: a in the second quarter of their fiscal year two

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01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 6: hundred and forty six million dollar loss, two hundred and

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01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 6: forty six million. The stock is down forty percent. I

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 6: should have shorted. Full disclosure. I don't own the stock

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Speaker 6: that I know of at all. I'm not giving you

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01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 6: stock advice. Please do not listen to me when it

1412
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,879
Speaker 6: comes to stocks. Only things political, cultural, bourbon and cigars, steaks,

1413
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 6: food in general.

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01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 5: Of course, how to make the sweet sweet love. After that,

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01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 5: you don't have to listen. I'm just here to handle

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01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 5: the important stuff, not your stock portfolio. It's only a

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01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 5: matter of time.

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Speaker 6: It can't work, it can't exist. Now it's interesting, I

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01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 6: had not paid too much attention to this, although I'm

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01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 6: sure I've mentioned it in the past. Frontier was trying

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01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 6: to buy Spirit, but they haven't been able to come

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01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 6: to a deal. Is that because of government or is

1423
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 6: that because of them? Because now it doesn't matter. There

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01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 6: won't even be a deal, but there will still be

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01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 6: some routes that this airline.

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Speaker 5: Travels that well.

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01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 6: People are still gonna want to travel on, so taking

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01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 6: over the routes make sense.

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01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 5: They've taken over twenty routes so far.

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Speaker 6: This then couples with a story about Southwest that I

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 6: am tracking. Southwest Airlines will soon require that travelers who

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01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 6: don't fit within the arm rest of their seats to

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 6: pay for an extra one in advance. If you are

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01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 6: too big to fit in the seat, you have to

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01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 6: buy two seats.

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01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 5: That's it. We don't owe you anything.

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01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 6: Nobody has to necessarily feel for you. You have to

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01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 6: do what is necessary and responsible for you. Reality is

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01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 6: reality is reality. It goes into effect starting January twenty seven,

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01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 6: which is when Southwest starts as signing seats.

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01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 5: I love every bit of this. I am in favor

1442
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 5: of every bit of this, and no, I don't need

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01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 5: to cease. Thank you, keep it here. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: This is Tony Katz today.

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01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 6: So one of the stories we've been following today is

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Speaker 6: a shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic school. Tony Katz, Tony

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01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 6: Katz today, good to be with you. We've seen at

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01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 6: Villanova and then it was University of South Carolina where

1449
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,480
Speaker 6: they claimed there was an active.

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01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 5: Shooter and it was a hoax. They made it up.

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01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 5: This is not that case.

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01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 6: The shooter, as the first reporting stated, contained no threat

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01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 6: at all anymore. They say to the community, that was

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01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 6: the first reporting of it. Then I immediately checked in

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01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,479
Speaker 6: with a John Justice, who is a fellow radio host

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01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:01,919
Speaker 6: in Minneapolis, referring to the fact that there are reported

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01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 6: deaths and critical victims. In all of these situations, the

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01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 6: news changes quickly. The initial reporting is not necessarily the

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01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 6: accurate reporting, And we are absolutely in the place now

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Speaker 6: in these first few hours now, depending some people get

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01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 6: the podcast version of this, some people get a delayed

1462
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 6: version of the show, So it really depends on when

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01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 6: you hear it. This is just the first bit of

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01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 6: the report, and we haven't gotten the totality yet. Sometimes

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01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 6: it takes hours, sometimes it takes days. Sometimes they don't

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Speaker 6: give it to us at all.

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Speaker 5: And we are all aware of that.

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Speaker 6: Infuriated by that last part. So we understand that there

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Speaker 6: are fatalities. We understand that the Governor Tim Walls, for

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Speaker 6: all his lunacy, has stated that the shooting has taken place.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna find out more. There are people who are

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Speaker 5: going to be desperate to be first see.

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Speaker 6: This time and time and time again. I have no

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01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 6: interest in being first. I have an interest in being right.

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01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 6: If I can be right and be first, well that's

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01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 6: that's pretty great.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 6: I do always love that moment, but I'd much rather

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01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 6: be right. Get the information so as we as we have,

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Speaker 6: and there's been a lot of talk about it so

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01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 6: far today, we know that there are we believe there

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Speaker 6: are fatalities. We believe there are people in critical condition.

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Speaker 6: We believe that the shooter is contained. That's what we know.

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01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 6: We're gonna find out more information could already be information

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01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:35,520
Speaker 6: out there about oh, who the shooter.

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Speaker 5: Is and what it's all about.

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01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 6: I'm gonna give it some time, make sure that that

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01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 6: stuff is accurate before we start bringing down with what

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01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 6: this is and what it's all about, because you.

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Speaker 5: Know, as well as I do, all someone has to

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,839
Speaker 5: hear is shooting, and all you hear is gun control.

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Speaker 6: We don't know anything that has happened yet, we can,

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01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 6: we don't have levels of calm confirmation about what has

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01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 6: taken place.

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Speaker 5: But they won't care.

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Speaker 6: They don't care, they never care. They'll say gun control,

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01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 6: it's ugly and it's gross, and you know it's a case.

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01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 6: So I leave that therist as to what is going on,

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Speaker 6: what's happening. Then I want to go back and recap

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Speaker 6: something I was discussing yesterday, if it's all right with you,

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01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 6: which is the story of President Trump and the executive

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01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 6: order regarding flag burning. And I'm gonna say it again,

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01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 6: I oppose this executive order. I think flag burning is dopey,

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01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 6: but it's allowed. And I don't want the President taking

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01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 6: his eye off the ball. I don't want him focused

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01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 6: on this in any way, shape or form. I want

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01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 6: him focused on the border, which seems to be going well.

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01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 6: And you have a Secretary Nome saying that we haven't

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Speaker 6: had an illegal crossing in three months, which I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's kind of hard to believe. That is kind of

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01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 6: hard to believe. No, not that we're not having an

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Speaker 6: effect on the border. Please don't get wrong.

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Speaker 5: One You might not know it.

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Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get too angry

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01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 6: with everyboy saying things are so good that we're not

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Speaker 6: having crossings. It's it is incredible what willpower has done.

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Speaker 5: You don't you don't even need new legislation.

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01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 6: You just had to have the will to actually utilize

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Speaker 6: the legislation that is in place.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 6: So there are things that I like, and then there

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Speaker 6: are things I think that take our eye off the ball.

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Speaker 6: And I think a flag burning thing takes her eye

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01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 6: off the ball. And some people will disagree with me.

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Speaker 6: And someone sent me this post from Christopher Rufo, who wrote,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but as long as this is the status quo,

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to work myself into a state of

1528
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 6: hysteria about Trump's executive order.

1529
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 5: I'm burning the American flag. And he shares two stories.

1530
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 6: One is from the BBC where a person got fifteen

1531
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 6: years in an Iowa jail for burning the pride flag.

1532
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 6: That is from twenty nineteen. And then a story from

1533
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 6: just couple of years ago about how three teenagers in

1534
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 6: Washington State are facing ten years in jail because they

1535
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 6: were writing e scooters and they made marks on the

1536
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 6: street and street happened to be painted with a rainbow flag.

1537
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 6: Please let us not be people who confuse our subjects.

1538
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 6: I think flag burning is gross. I think it is

1539
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 6: a legally protected practice. I think that anybody who thinks

1540
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 6: that a burning or destroying a gay pride flag is

1541
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 6: a hate crime is a ridiculous child should be laughed

1542
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 6: at and dismissed. I for forever have said that the

1543
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,719
Speaker 6: very concept of the hate crime is wrong. All crimes

1544
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 6: are crimes, are crimes of hate, and there is no

1545
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 6: crime that is worse because it happens to a particular group.

1546
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 6: If it happens to me because I'm Jewish, if it

1547
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 6: happens to you because you're gay, it happens to you

1548
01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 6: because you're black, and it happens to you because you're

1549
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 6: a woman, it is not a worse crime. If it

1550
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 6: happens to a white man, oh well. If it happens

1551
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 6: to a white woman, oh well, if it happens to

1552
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 6: a black woman, it's the worst thing that ever happens.

1553
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 6: That's pure, raw, unadult raated bigotry. Count me out. Also,

1554
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 6: I am not a flower. I don't need special laws

1555
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 6: and special rules. I've got the Constitution.

1556
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 5: Boo boo. I'm good. Now.

1557
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 6: This is sometow shocking to people when I say this.

1558
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 6: Certainly it's been shocking. I have opposed hate crimes in

1559
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 6: my state, Indiana, since I moved to Indiana eleven years ago.

1560
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 6: And oh, there are Jews who are not happy with me.

1561
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 6: But I'm right, and they're wrong, and I'm willing to

1562
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 6: say that directly to them. This is a fighting subject.

1563
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 6: Once you introduce the concept of hate crimes, you are

1564
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 6: saying that all the animals are equal, but some are

1565
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 6: more equal than others. You are talking about giving special

1566
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 6: rights to sub sets, and that's not the American way.

1567
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 5: Count me out.

1568
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 6: Now this is said differently. Let me give you one

1569
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 6: of the ways its gonna be said differently. Hey, gay

1570
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 6: men and gay women, you're not special.

1571
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 5: But you're not.

1572
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 6: You're Americans. You're covered by the Constitution. You don't get

1573
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 6: any special protections.

1574
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 5: Don't care if it makes you happy.

1575
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 6: No, I would laugh at you on the street in

1576
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:22,440
Speaker 6: front of your mother. You don't get any special protections.

1577
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 6: I don't get any special protections. You don't get any

1578
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 6: special protections. We have protections granted to us by the

1579
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 6: Constitution and nature and Nature's law.

1580
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 5: That's it.

1581
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 6: You're Black, no special protections. You have a problem with that.

1582
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,799
Speaker 6: Don't care. You're Asian, you're Hispanic, you're Muslim, you're Christian.

1583
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 5: Don't care.

1584
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 6: There ain't nothing special about you. Nothing's so special that

1585
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 6: the law should treat you differently. Nope, burning the gay

1586
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 6: pride flag is. It's not a hate crime. And if

1587
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 6: you think it's a hate crime, well those people are wrong.

1588
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 6: Those people are ridiculous, those people are children. Those people

1589
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 6: shouldn't be allowed to operate heavy machinery, and your sure's

1590
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 6: bloody hell shouldn't vote for those people. It's not a

1591
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,559
Speaker 6: hate crime. I agree that it's dopey. I also agree

1592
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 6: that the whole thing with the flag has just gotten ridiculous.

1593
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 5: And for the LGBT.

1594
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 6: World, whatever they call themselves, would you do me a

1595
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 6: favorite LGNB, would you drop the tea that's where your

1596
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 6: politics are coming from.

1597
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 5: You don't need that garbage. It's bringing you down.

1598
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 6: The TA has rooven to be a political movement that's

1599
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 6: interested in the destruction of Western civilization. And they gotta

1600
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 6: go no, no, no, no, no, not special, no no no.

1601
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 6: We don't allow children to mutilate themselves.

1602
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.

1603
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 6: You can't threaten us by saying if we don't allow

1604
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 6: this surgery, they'll kill themselves. Stop buying into and feeding

1605
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 6: into a child's mental illness, and actually help the children,

1606
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 6: because any society that doesn't help children is not a

1607
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 6: society that's worth a damn. But not special to the

1608
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 6: t you ain't special.

1609
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 5: Boo boo. I don't care if you like me. It's

1610
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 5: the facts.

1611
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 6: You're not special, which is why men cannot play in

1612
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 6: women's sports. You made a decision. You don't get to

1613
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 6: tell other people they have to live with a decision.

1614
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 6: Screw your decision. Don't care. I didn't say you couldn't

1615
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 6: make the decision. I said you can't force me to

1616
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 6: live with your decision.

1617
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 5: And I mean that if you can't burn an American flag,

1618
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 5: can't burn any other flag.

1619
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 6: But if you can burn an American flag, you can

1620
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 6: burn every other flag.

1621
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 2: You know what.

1622
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 6: That's probably said wrong. Someone would probably argue, you can't

1623
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 6: burn the American flag, but no other flag matters. But

1624
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 6: if you can, if it's a crime to burn a

1625
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,919
Speaker 6: gay pride flag but not an American flag, that's insane.

1626
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 5: That's better said. That's better said there, that's accurate. You

1627
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 5: don't get jail.

1628
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 6: Time for making donuts on an e scooter on a

1629
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 6: part of the street that's painted purple. Don't paint the streets,

1630
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 6: which is what Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary said, and

1631
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 6: rightfully so.

1632
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 5: Don't paint the streets. Nobody wants your sloganeering crap. No

1633
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:13,799
Speaker 5: one cares.

1634
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 6: In the main I believe that Americans are amongst the

1635
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 6: most caring and the most decent people out there.

1636
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 5: That when it comes to.

1637
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 6: Compassion, when it comes to generosity, Americans are unrivaled people

1638
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 6: in that regard. What I would like Americans to be

1639
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 6: equally unrivaled in is being left alone. The truth is

1640
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 6: is that if you were somebody who's a man who

1641
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 6: wants to claim they're a woman, the vast majority of

1642
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 6: Americans wouldn't give you the time of day and wouldn't bother.

1643
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 5: You about what you do. They wouldn't They would move

1644
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,720
Speaker 5: They might stare, but they would move on.

1645
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 6: It's when you said you're allowed to be in the

1646
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 6: women's bathroom, in the women's locker room, and there's nothing

1647
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 6: you could do about it.

1648
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 5: When people said, well, that's not going to work, and

1649
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 5: then the political left said, how dare you, you transphobes?

1650
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 6: You there's no such thing as a transfer, you bigots,

1651
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 6: And so that's where they try to shut people down,

1652
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,839
Speaker 6: shut people up, engage in violence actually about the subject,

1653
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 6: and people had to refine themselves and find their core

1654
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 6: and find their strength and find their spine and fight

1655
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 6: back against it.

1656
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 5: And I'm thrilled that it's working because it has to.

1657
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 6: And the people who favor calling you a transphobe whatever

1658
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 6: that is, that total lie of a thing, this, that,

1659
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 6: and the other, they cannot be allowed to win elected office,

1660
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 6: et cetera.

1661
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 5: They can't be allowed any power.

1662
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 6: So on this subject of the flags, allow me to

1663
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 6: make sure that I am clear. I do not believe

1664
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,839
Speaker 6: that we should engage any bit of legislation or executive

1665
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 6: that says you cannot burn the American flag. It is

1666
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 6: a free speech conversation. And while I think it is dopey,

1667
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 6: I think it is allowable. And I think the President

1668
01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 6: made a mistake by going down this road. I want

1669
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 6: him to focus. But anybody who thinks that it's okay

1670
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 6: to burn the American flag and it's somehow I hate

1671
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 6: crime to burn a gay pride flag is nuts.

1672
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 5: They're wrong. They'll always be wrong. They should be told

1673
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 5: that they're wrong.

1674
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 6: It's not a crime, and there should be no such

1675
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 6: thing as hate crimes.

1676
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 5: That's just messed up stuff.

1677
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 6: Hate crimes are about saying that some group of people

1678
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 6: are more important than others, and that's not true. If

1679
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 6: you're gay, you're not more important. If you're straight, you're

1680
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 6: not more important. If you're Jewish, you're not more important.

1681
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 6: If you're Christian, you're not more important. You're not We're Americans,

1682
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 6: and that is that. But I will get into one

1683
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 6: more part of this. How do you get people not

1684
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 6: to burn the flag? You start by saying and explaining

1685
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 6: to your own kids what the flag is and what

1686
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 6: it represents, and why it's valuable and why it's important.

1687
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 5: And when you.

1688
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:12,640
Speaker 6: Hear the national anthem, you stop wherever you are and

1689
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:13,879
Speaker 6: you point in that direction.

1690
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,679
Speaker 5: You show the respect, and you take off your hat.

1691
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 6: You don't talk through it, you don't scroll on your

1692
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 6: phone through it. And if your kids are doing that stuff,

1693
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 6: you take the phone.

1694
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 5: Out of their hand.

1695
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 6: You point them at the American flag and tell them

1696
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,440
Speaker 6: to shut their mouths and pay attention.

1697
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 5: And they'll learn. Oh, you could say nice than that

1698
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 5: if you want. I mean, it's your kid. Who am

1699
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 5: I to judge?

1700
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 6: But you show the reverence for the flag. By showing

1701
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 6: the reverence for the flag, You show the love of

1702
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 6: the flag. By showing the love of the flag and

1703
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 6: what it is it represents, nobody will burn the thing.

1704
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 5: That they love. And I think that's how.

1705
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 6: We win this this this concept, that's how you create

1706
01:43:55,040 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 6: this value system, the one that ensures that the flag

1707
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 6: was still there and our nation will endure just one

1708
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 6: man's theory. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

1709
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 6: Leave it to the political left to decide that lying

1710
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 6: on a mortgage application is not a crime.

1711
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 21: What I care most about is that we follow the

1712
01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 21: law here, and the law is pretty clear that firing

1713
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 21: four cause means job related, like someone who has been

1714
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 21: inefficient or someone who's been corrupt in doing the job.

1715
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 21: That is the history of what four cause means here.

1716
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 5: So you can't be fired for murder.

1717
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 6: I'm only following Elizabeth Warren's thought process here. Lisa Cook,

1718
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 6: the governor of the Federal Reserve.

1719
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 5: One of the members of the Board of Governors.

1720
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 6: Allegedly falsified a mortgage document an application. You can't get

1721
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 6: fired for that. How about being fired for cause?

1722
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 5: Is you not living up.

1723
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 6: To ethical standards? You can't get fired for that. That's

1724
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 6: not fired for cause. You know what, I'll let the

1725
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 6: lawyers decide. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be

1726
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:17,799
Speaker 6: with you. What I can tell you is that Elizabeth

1727
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 6: Warren is always on the side of what does Trump

1728
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 6: not want? Whatever it is is the opposite of his desires.

1729
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 5: That's what I'm in favor of.

1730
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 6: Who would favor keeping somebody on who engaged in fraud?

1731
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 6: Well maybe Elizabeth Warren, who did the same thing.

1732
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 5: Remember when she told everybody she was native American.

1733
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:43,480
Speaker 6: Oh, oh, that was funny because she's.

1734
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 5: Not and she never has been.

1735
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 6: And she lied so she can get social currency, so

1736
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 6: she can be seen as interesting, so she can get

1737
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:55,600
Speaker 6: herself elevated in her career, so she can get herself

1738
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 6: some upward mobility. She lied, That's who she is, That's

1739
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 6: what she did. So she must have a soft spot

1740
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 6: in her heart for the people who engage in fraud,

1741
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 6: because after all, it's kind of what she's built on.

1742
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 6: The rational person knows that what Lisa Cook is accused of.

1743
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 6: Here this governor from the Federal Reserve.

1744
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 5: Who she's refusing to leave, by the way.

1745
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 6: Saying that Trump doesn't have the authority and that the

1746
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 6: FED is an independent agency, neither.

1747
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 5: Here nor there, but that the Left wants to.

1748
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 6: Now engage in cover for people who are guilty of

1749
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 6: fraud or accused of fraud.

1750
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:33,919
Speaker 5: I mean, that's just that is just too perfect.

1751
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 6: Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow.

1752
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 5: Everyone, take care,