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Speaker 1: Well, you made it a hump day, Mark, Happy hump Day.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, James Boyd, Good morning, Kevin Bowen. We have

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Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Last night.

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Speaker 1: It was first reel of the twenty twenty sixth year,

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Speaker 1: my opportunity, James Boyd, to have the double screen going

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Speaker 1: for college and.

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Speaker 2: Pro basketballlast night. I had Butler on one screen.

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Speaker 1: I had the Pacers on the other screen, and in

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Speaker 1: both cases my hopes were greatly crushed in the second

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Speaker 1: half and specifically in the fourth quarter for the Pacers,

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Speaker 1: most of the second half for Butler. It just was

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Speaker 1: not a fun night to watch basketball for the local teams.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's rough right now. For the Pacers, they lose,

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Speaker 3: I believe, their thirteenth straight game in a row, which

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Speaker 3: is now a franchise record right history.

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Speaker 2: And here's the crazy part about that.

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Speaker 1: We know that Rick Carlile has been sitting on nine

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Speaker 1: hundred and ninety nine coaching wins during this entire time.

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Speaker 1: Just odd that this losing streak of this length would

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Speaker 1: come at this point in time. And to James point, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: it's almost different every night. It's either their poor shooting

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Speaker 1: the ball over or a combination of both. I think

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Speaker 1: Rick said it after the game last night. It just

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Speaker 1: it seems like it's something different all the time. He

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Speaker 1: loves this team, He has no questions about their character, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Think you know, they play hard every night, they bring it.

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Speaker 1: But man, the injuries and the constant shuffling lineups, and

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Speaker 1: last night it was Darius Garland that that got him

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Speaker 1: at the very end. It's just it doesn't see you

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Speaker 1: can't just point at one thing other than maybe the

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Speaker 1: injuries and the lineup changes and say this is why

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Speaker 1: they're losing all the time.

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Speaker 4: So tomorrow's January eighth, correct, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Last one was December eighth.

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Speaker 4: The last time the Pacers and or Colts won a

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Speaker 4: game December eighth. Good, Kurtzig, Natty should he just like

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Speaker 4: you know, touch Can he like touch Tyres Aliburn's achilles?

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Speaker 5: Maybe?

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Speaker 4: And you know, you know maybe Coach Chat I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It'd be like a little golden light shining from above, right, and.

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Speaker 4: He just needs to speak to all of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's uh, I mean it's largely injuries. I think extraordinary

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Speaker 4: situation was what Rick Karl the phrase he used. But

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Speaker 4: you know, at the same time, you know, last night

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Speaker 4: they caught a break with Donovan Mitchell, and I thought,

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Speaker 4: honestly it was probably one of the better second third

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Speaker 4: quarter it got away from them quick there to start

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter. And then at that point, like you said,

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Speaker 4: Garland made all the plays there in Butler for the

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Speaker 4: second straight game inside Hinkle, you have a great opportunity,

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Speaker 4: and you're trying to build the resume. I think Leonardi

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Speaker 4: had him as a first four out yesterday, if you

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Speaker 4: want to start looking ahead to that stuff. And it

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Speaker 4: got away from them very quickly in the second half,

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Speaker 4: and I think you're starting to see, certainly the loss

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Speaker 4: and boy, it was a turnover seemingly every time down

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Speaker 4: the floor there in the second half. So I guess

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Speaker 4: no need for double screen. You'll just go back to

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Speaker 4: back tonight Indiana at six thirty, Perdue at eight thirty.

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Speaker 4: That is your Wednesday Night slate here from a local standpoint.

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Speaker 4: Believe Big ten Network, both both of those both of

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Speaker 4: those notable favorites. Maryland is the worst team in the

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Speaker 4: Big Ten, Indiana at Maryland tonight, and Purdue double digit

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, don't need the two screens tonight. Just

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Speaker 1: leave it on Big ten network and call it good.

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Speaker 4: Now, did you guys have the issue late last night?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I encountered the one where you didn't get any

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Speaker 4: Market's been allows since I bitched and moaned about bally

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Speaker 4: Sports New Year New Yu Fambuel to where I would

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Speaker 4: have to go. They've taken all money over the years

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Speaker 4: in betting. Now I can bitch about their technical difficulties, right,

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Speaker 1: That was and then you get Kristina. Look, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that we got Kristinarity's sound like he's on the.

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Speaker 4: Phone, James. He showed why you and him will be

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Speaker 4: in Charlotte later this summer and getting an award. It

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Speaker 4: brother and I back in the day for our Notre

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Speaker 4: Dame basketball fandom. When Notre Dame basketball used to be

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Speaker 4: Carmel Regal Cinema right there, one hundred and forty six.

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Speaker 4: That was the best connection for us, and so we'd

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Speaker 2: Wow, the young king of all Media, rising king of

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Speaker 2: all Media. That's the other guy, King Christ Kings.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a right brother. But yeah, his.

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Speaker 4: Our last night was tremendous. As soon as he said

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Speaker 4: five second call there late, I was pretty pretty dejected.

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Speaker 6: The technical glitches. It's like it's been a couple of

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Speaker 4: We of this, I should take probably clear it up.

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Speaker 4: I think Denary did mention. I don't though, you know

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Speaker 4: if this has been shut. I thought he said maybe

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Speaker 6: But who the hell Quinn Buckner's unplugging things.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you.

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Speaker 4: Will, James give us your Quinn Buckner voice.

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Speaker 1: But he gave us some chicken last night at the

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Speaker 1: Frozy Max Nelly.

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Speaker 4: I hope they find someone in their lives that they

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Speaker 4: love as much as he loves bricking for chicken.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was screamed he one of that second free

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Speaker 7: On that call?

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Speaker 4: I am into that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I do have access to

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Speaker 3: FanDuel TV or whatever, and then something that it wasn't

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Speaker 3: living my life and they would have finished watching the

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Speaker 3: game in other capacities, mister Boyd checking in mother russe ver.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Business is in trouble though.

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Speaker 3: They those other streams are very clear, unlike the one

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Speaker 3: you're paying for, which I do actually pay for.

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Speaker 7: Some of that.

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Speaker 1: I've been reading over the last couple of weeks at

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're out of the Pacers. Last night, where

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Speaker 3: He was at Louisville, Duke looking at Cameron Boozer, because

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Speaker 3: the Pacers are in great position right now to potentially

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Speaker 4: Six months ago you're covering game seven of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 4: Six months later you don't even go to your And

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Speaker 4: I get why, to be very clear, why the Star

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Speaker 4: on the future, on the new window with Tyrese Haliburton

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Speaker 3: Well, I think before we get to the other NFL

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Speaker 3: So about twenty four hours after Carle meets with the

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Speaker 3: I just thought to be blunt. I thought it was pointless.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably not as extreme as that, James. I

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Speaker 4: a lot of teams around the league have under communication.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean that, yes, Okay, we can get

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Speaker 1: Say, that's a letter that was sent to like season

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Speaker 4: Put out on social media, So yeah, I guess everybody.

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Speaker 1: Starts to sound like, oh, I'm sorry, I'll never do

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Speaker 4: Like you had the classes in college that kind of overlapped,

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Speaker 4: You're like, wait, didn't I write a paper for that class?

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Speaker 4: this class? Let me just, you know, alter that wording

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Speaker 2: And Mark, we'll talk about this in detail later. But

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Speaker 2: I saw your tweet last night.

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Speaker 6: Instead, they say they're securing them for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: This sounds like that Harbaugh's might might have the pick

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It's The Fan Morning Show ninety three five one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 2: We'll check it down in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Good morning and Happy Wednesday. Welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

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Speaker 1: A lot to talk about today. The Colts will sit

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans James Boyd are looking for a brand.

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Speaker 2: New head coach. I don't know how about John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Maybe to Tennessee? Is that a possibility? No, because you

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Speaker 4: It to happen, or just Nona not the guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't want it to happen. I just think he

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Speaker 1: That's what the Colts will be doing right now. And

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Speaker 1: Kevin asked you a great question the other day. Any

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Speaker 2: What do you make of all of it?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: The idea or you're essentially banking on better health and

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Speaker 2: Will it work?

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Speaker 1: Also last night in the NBA, the Indiana Pacers lost

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Speaker 2: They were at the field House.

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Speaker 1: They squandered a nine point lead to start the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: They keep battling, they keep showing up, but man, those

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got away from quick there to start the

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Speaker 1: Also, we can tell you in college basketball last night

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they do. They're a great program and

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Speaker 2: Should be a pretty good night for both teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no chance I know them on Mark Mark,

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Speaker 2: It hasn't gone well for Buzz.

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Speaker 4: Sweaty Buzz Right. Buzz loves to do like the four

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Speaker 6: I feel like he's wards of successes betther than none.

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Speaker 4: So I don't say that to people in West fifty

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to fill left out.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Notre Dame place again Saturday at home against Clemson.

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Speaker 4: I should probably share some thoughts on Michael Shrewsbury at

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Speaker 6: I think people may welcome the break from the Bay Area.

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Speaker 2: Wow you were fired up. Huh, all right, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: This is the state of affairs now in college football

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Speaker 3: But aren't they trying to block it and all that?

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Speaker 3: The state of college football has never been better for Indiana.

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Speaker 2: For Indiana, it's terrific.

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Speaker 1: We're just a couple of days away from watching them

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Speaker 2: And the thing that I remember most from that game.

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Speaker 4: can be. So that was a vital part in Indiana

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Speaker 4: going there. And I really thought Indiana was the vastly

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Speaker 4: superior team in that game. You know, they had their

445
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Speaker 4: season high in penalties on the road in that environment,

446
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Speaker 4: and yet still overcame that. You know, Charlie Becker had

447
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Speaker 4: yet to really be Charlie b from Tennessee. If I

448
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Speaker 4: can steal a line from Gus Johnson, and we did

449
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Speaker 4: see notable news yesterday Oregon without their leading rusher from

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Speaker 4: that game, Jordan Davidson, their power back fifteen touchdowns on

451
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Speaker 4: the season. He will not play Friday Night. So I

452
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Speaker 4: think there's a lot to like about Indiana in this game.

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Speaker 4: You talk about portal chaos, the OC and the DC.

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Speaker 4: For Oregon, they're the coaches at Kentucky and col respectively.

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Speaker 4: You don't think they've been worried about the portal at

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Speaker 4: their new schools, Whereas the coordinators at Indiana, they ain't

457
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Speaker 4: worried about that. They've re upped, they've got healthy contracts

458
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Speaker 4: in Blobbyton. They're focused on Oregon so I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of advantages three and a half points spread both

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Speaker 4: these games. Miami overall Miss tomorrow night. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 4: it is Indiana over Oregon on Friday.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of that Miami ole Miss game, talk about

463
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Speaker 1: the state of college football right now. Offensive coordinator Charlie

464
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Speaker 1: Weiss junior did fly to Arizona with number six Ole

465
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Speaker 1: Miss Tuesday night. That's according to Joe Judge, Rebels, offensive assistant.

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Speaker 1: There was some concern that as he goes to LSU

467
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Speaker 1: with Lane Kiffin, that Kiffin might not let him along

468
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Speaker 1: with other assistance, that he is not letting coach in

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Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 2: But it turns out that Charlie Weis junior will be

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Speaker 2: the play What.

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Speaker 4: The hell are we doing?

473
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Speaker 2: Is this serious?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 4: You're in the final four of the playoff and there's

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Speaker 4: questions about if you can field a coaching staff for

477
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Speaker 4: the game. Yep, Wlayane Kevin can kiss my ass.

478
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Speaker 2: Joe Judge said quote.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he had to fly down after practice yesterday

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Speaker 1: then come back last night because they've got portal visits

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Speaker 1: going on, So scripting on the plane and having phone

482
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Speaker 1: calls and talking about notes from practice and making corrections

483
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Speaker 1: through FaceTime Is that the proper way to prepare for

484
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Speaker 1: your biggest game of the year so far?

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Speaker 4: Just a joke.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Just a joke, absolute joe, all right.

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Speaker 2: Anything else you guys want to throw in before we

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Speaker 2: move on?

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Speaker 3: I think I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, we'll.

492
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Speaker 4: See if any other openings here. It seems to be like,

493
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Speaker 4: now we've gotten through everything NFL wise with the John

494
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Speaker 4: Harball thing. I'm gonna miss Harball, Tomlin. It just it

495
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Speaker 4: was a fun matchup. I enjoyed watching. It seemed to

496
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Speaker 4: be pretty split over the years. I don't know how

497
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Speaker 4: much we get like the true human rivalries in the NFL.

498
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Speaker 4: Obviously Brady Manning would fallow in that boat, but I

499
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Speaker 4: always enjoyed watching that AFC North tilt. I found it

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Speaker 4: a bit fitting. That's how he ended, you know, Game

501
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Speaker 4: two seventy two this year, one final time there. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll be very curious to see where and how quickly

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Speaker 4: John Harball finds a new.

504
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Speaker 6: Job sign up for two Harball Bowls this season if

505
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Speaker 6: he joins the Raiders.

506
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Speaker 4: Interesting by so Fernando Mendoz would be coached by John

507
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Speaker 4: Howard feel better about it, But.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's got the pick of the litter. Raiders

509
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Speaker 6: got the number one over.

510
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Speaker 4: Was a schefter. Somebody acted like the Giants were the favorite.

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Speaker 6: James's boyd would be Dad would be doing backflips.

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Speaker 3: He probably would, honestly, Jackson dart appeal, I guess maybe

513
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Speaker 3: JA and I don't know, big market and all of that,

514
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Speaker 3: but it was time for him to go. In Baltimore,

515
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Speaker 3: they lost too many games and epic ways in recent years.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that's got a Super Bowl win and

517
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Speaker 1: a long, lengthy record of playoff appearances.

518
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Speaker 2: He went two decades.

519
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Speaker 1: We've got We've got a general manager and a head

520
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Speaker 1: coach that haven't been to the playoffs as a tandem,

521
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Speaker 1: and they're going to get another year again.

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Speaker 2: That's how it goes. That's the state of everything in

523
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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the world of sports. We'll talk

525
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Speaker 1: more about the Colts and the Pacers as we continue

526
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Speaker 1: Indiana football creeping up on a semifinal game that's on

527
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Speaker 1: the table as well. It's all coming your way in

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Speaker 1: the next two and a half hours right here at

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Speaker 1: ninety three to five.

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Speaker 7: In one.

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Speaker 1: A lot of talk, a lot of activity, a lot

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Speaker 1: of press conference. There's a lot of statements in the

533
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Speaker 1: wake of the Colts missing the playoffs again, not having

534
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Speaker 1: a winning record, losing seventh straight to end the season

535
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Speaker 1: after a terrific seven and one start. They're going to

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Speaker 1: run it back again. We've talked about that at nauseum

537
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Speaker 1: in the last couple of days. But you know, I'm

538
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Speaker 1: still getting texts from people that I just know. I'm

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Speaker 1: still getting emails. I know you are too, Kevin. Colts

540
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Speaker 1: fans are just they're just as a group, generally unhappy

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: By the way, do you have a favorite football weekend?

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Speaker 4: This weekend or next?

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Speaker 2: I like championship weekend. Oh my favorite next weekend is great.

545
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Speaker 2: But I love Wow.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that I have a doubleheader on

547
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Speaker 1: a Sunday with everything on the line.

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Speaker 4: Not that you like our family a whole lot, then,

549
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Speaker 4: no dud.

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Speaker 6: I'm Divisional round. You get the number one seeds, get

551
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Speaker 6: some upsets. I'm big Divisional round.

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Speaker 4: Well, Mark, I asked because as the college football Playoff

553
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Speaker 4: altered your thinking, because hear me out this week it's

554
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Speaker 4: probably not a weekend, so we'll start tomorrow night. We'll

555
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Speaker 4: get the festival and again take you out of it

556
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Speaker 4: from the local angle. So you'll go semifinal Thursday, semi

557
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Speaker 4: final Friday, two wildcard games on Saturday, three wildcard games

558
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Speaker 4: on Sunday, and the Monday nighter. I mean that is

559
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Speaker 4: pray for a snowstorm. Inject that into your life.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: The next weekend, mark's divisional weekend? What's that? Mark two

562
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Speaker 4: on Saturday, two on Sunday, and the National Championship then

563
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Speaker 4: would be Monday.

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Speaker 6: Yep, sign me up.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a lot of football, James boy, you gotta

566
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Speaker 4: vote here. You like this week, you like next week

567
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Speaker 4: a little less? Still good them out little less? Or

568
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Speaker 4: you with Jeff and you opten for just two NFL

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Speaker 4: games on a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I'll go with this week mainly because I don't have

571
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Speaker 3: any responsibilities outside of myself.

572
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Speaker 2: I don't know that's how it should be.

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Speaker 3: Weird if there's a many things pulling me in different directions, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about if I got to worry about

575
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Speaker 3: changing a diaper here or something like that. So I'm

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Speaker 3: looking forward to this weekend, and really, as you pointed out,

577
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Speaker 3: this week, because it all starts tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it does start tomorrow, and I'm looking for I

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Speaker 1: will tay, I'll tell you this year, I'm looking forward

580
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Speaker 1: to every Indiana football game that comes on, but generally

581
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Speaker 1: year to year, I just there's something cool about waking

582
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Speaker 1: up on a Sunday morning and knowing you're gonna watch

583
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Speaker 1: two games, and those two teams are gonna be off

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I've always just really enjoyed the gravity of that day.

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Speaker 4: Gravity certainly, but I'm nervous of one of those games

587
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Speaker 4: a dud, then your own, then that puts all the

588
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Speaker 4: pressure on the other. So that would be my concern

589
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Speaker 4: with that James anything lingering locker room clean out. We

590
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Speaker 4: talked certainly a lot about Javeris Ward in that situation yesterday,

591
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Speaker 4: Alec Pierce, Daniel Jones, I guess you go a week

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Speaker 4: back with Anthony Richardson. Is Philip Rivers really going to

593
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Speaker 4: coach in the NFL? At some point, I'll leave it

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Speaker 4: pretty open ended for you.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting talking to Philip Rivers. And

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Speaker 3: again this is the guy who said since he'd come back,

597
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Speaker 3: oh man, I really loved coaching high school football, coaching

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Speaker 3: my son. And then when we ask him, okay, well

599
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Speaker 3: do you want to coach in the NFL, is this

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Speaker 3: something you wouldn't entertain? And he left the door open.

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Speaker 3: He did not say no. He kept saying on the

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Speaker 3: lines of well, I didn't really expect to be here

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Speaker 3: a month ago, so I've learned to just keep the

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Speaker 3: door open to anything and never say no before it's

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Speaker 3: even a possibility. But personally, I think it would be

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Speaker 3: a poor decision for any franchise to make him a

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Speaker 3: head coach or even entertained that idea. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what it is about former coach players who want to

609
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Speaker 3: make that jump. And granted Jeff Saturday's credit, he didn't

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Speaker 3: give himself the job. He was offered the job, so

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Speaker 3: he took it. But I do think regardless of how

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Speaker 3: great of a player you once were, even if you

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Speaker 3: were a quarterback, you probably need more experience before you

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Speaker 3: make that leap. And maybe maybe we're all drinking a

615
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Speaker 3: little bit of the kool aid, like all the old

616
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Speaker 3: guy came out of retirement. Now this is the next

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Speaker 3: step of the movie. But the movie, at least what

618
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Speaker 3: we saw wasn't all that great in the end, and

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Speaker 3: the sequel of just making him a head coach immediately

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Speaker 3: in this cycle potentially is what NFL Networks Ian rapport

621
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Speaker 3: was putting out there. That would be insane and any

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Speaker 3: franchise who did that will be a very unseerious team.

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Speaker 2: I do think go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I was just saying to go over the family tree

625
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Speaker 4: a little bit here. The oldest son, Gunner, will be

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Speaker 4: a senior down there in high school and is I

627
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Speaker 4: would say, a relatively highly football recruit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the top player in that state. He's the

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Speaker 3: top player in Alabama for his class.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like, yeah, I mean, I know I've

631
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Speaker 4: seen his name mentioned with Notre Dame and you know,

632
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Speaker 4: some of these other schools, and then the I think

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Speaker 4: there's three sons. Boy, I probably should double check my

634
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Speaker 4: Rivers family. That could be a three h one level

635
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Speaker 4: class there. I believe another son is going to be

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Speaker 4: a freshman and would be the backup quarterback. So you know,

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Speaker 4: if Philip is, you know, all in on this, Hey,

638
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Speaker 4: I want to coach my sons. I mean theoretically he's

639
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Speaker 4: coaching one of his sons at quarterback for the next

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Speaker 4: you know, what is it seven years of my well

641
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Speaker 4: not seven years, but you know, based off Gunner being

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Speaker 4: a sophomore down there, at some point and then rising

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Speaker 4: to the senior level that he is right now. I

644
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Speaker 4: thought it was interesting, you know, I wanted to ask

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Speaker 4: It took a while. I wanted to ask Rivers about

646
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Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti because I think probably our audience knows this

647
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Speaker 4: at this point, but if they don't, Kurt Signetti was

648
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Speaker 4: on the NC State staff when Philip Rivers was in college.

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Speaker 4: Ironically enough, and Rivers is last year there. He was

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Speaker 4: actually the position coach. Signetti was his quarterbacks coach. And

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Speaker 4: you know, Philip and you know, obviously you're asking him

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Speaker 4: to go back what twenty years to remember you know,

653
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Speaker 4: what Kurt Signetti was like. But he did share that

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Speaker 4: he said he remembers the balance that Signetti brought to

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Speaker 4: the room of enough fire necessary, but also like a

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Speaker 4: really steady presence. And I do think like Signetti has that,

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Speaker 4: Like you watch him on the sideline and obviously it's

658
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Speaker 4: it's animated, it's you know, the scows and the memes

659
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: are hilarious from the fourth and one decision by Klen

660
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Speaker 4: de Borr in the Rose Bowl in Signetti's face. But like,

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Speaker 4: he is very process oriented. He is very you know,

662
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Speaker 4: consistent with his schedule, and I do think that's a

663
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Speaker 4: big quality market if it. If you don't mind cube

664
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Speaker 4: this clip, this is Signetti. I mean this is a

665
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: while ago, him kind of describing like, yeah, he might

666
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 4: be whatever, sixty something year old, but he is not

667
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: like we need to be out there on the practice

668
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: field for three hours a day. And you talk about

669
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: the consistency within his coaching staff. I think when you

670
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: hear this answer, that is a reason why, along with

671
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: the financial commitment from IU, you are seeing such a

672
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Speaker 4: consistent presence with his staff.

673
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 7: I was growing up.

674
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 8: I didn't like when people wasted my time, and I

675
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 8: don't want to I don't want to waste the player's time,

676
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 8: and I don't want to waste the coach's time. And

677
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 8: I don't make the coaches stay at night. Maybe that's

678
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 8: why guys been with me so long. All right, And

679
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 8: we started seven seven thirty in the morning like everybody else,

680
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 8: and you stay till your work's done. And I'm not

681
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 8: checking to see who's there and who isn't right, But

682
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 8: I can tell you one thing. When we're in't a office,

683
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 8: it's all business, you know, it is all business. It's

684
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 8: organized preparation. And we're on that practice field. Look Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

685
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 8: our thirty five to an hour forty five, Our thirty

686
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 8: five to an hour forty five Monday walk through, Friday

687
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 8: shorter walkthrough. I believe in keeping them fresh and healthy,

688
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 8: and our players like the way we run the program.

689
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 8: We've had a great culture for the last eight to

690
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 8: ten years downstairs, you know. And you can't put a

691
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 8: value on a great culture. Now. Winning helps, no doubt,

692
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 8: but the right kind of people believing in your process,

693
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 8: your blueprint, your plan helps.

694
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: Two great stuff.

695
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: And the part in the middle about keeping them fresh

696
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: and healthy.

697
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: How much will that play.

698
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: Into these last few games at the end of a

699
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: really long season in which this team is going to

700
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: play six you know, assuming and I shouldn't assume, but

701
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: let's say they do win this weekend, James, They're going

702
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: to be playing sixteen games as college players. That's vital

703
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: that you don't wear them out before you get to January.

704
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to the point of what you're referencing and

705
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 3: what Kevin just mentioned, the ability to adapt because he's

706
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: not some young dude, and I can imagine similar to

707
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: when we talked to Rick Carlisle and he tells stories

708
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: about how things used to be. I mean he probably

709
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: comes from the era of two a days in the

710
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: summer every day and leading up to the season and

711
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: full pads a few times a week and all of that.

712
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: But now it's all about efficiency and you're seeing the

713
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: payoff from that in a big, big way for this program.

714
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Now.

715
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: He did mention also in that clip winning helps and

716
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: they've done a whole lot of that and that might

717
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: be the best remedy.

718
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 4: Of all seven NFL openings. Correct, Yes, sir? How many

719
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: ownership groups make a call to Bloomington?

720
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: I think he'd call and kick the tires, don't you?

721
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: I bet five or six at least, call and.

722
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: Say, hey, any interest Any chance he'd be interested in

723
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: trying out the NFL?

724
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: I'd say two.

725
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: Do you think he would interview?

726
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 3: I think he would. How do I put this? I

727
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: think he would tell Scott Dolson put on a zero

728
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: on my pay paycheck.

729
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: There's a lot of zeros and a lot of condos already.

730
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: I mean, is he losing any leverage in this?

731
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: Every time jokes aside? Every time I see either Zach

732
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: Osterman from The Indie Star or somebody else who's on

733
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: the beat every day put out those contract updates. I'm fascinated.

734
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: But how about every single step of the way basically

735
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: one he makes him revisit his contract and make him

736
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: even more highly paid. Or two there's some like language

737
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: in it that forces them to reevaluate him after in achievement,

738
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: which he continues to more.

739
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Speaker 4: I assume he's about to get some massive bonus if

740
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 4: and when they went on Friday, you know, And I

741
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: don't know if that's an extension on the contract or

742
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: adding zeros or commas, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, I

743
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: first off, I don't think Kurtzignetti in the NFL is

744
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: something that is a priority for him or a goal.

745
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: He doesn't strike me as that, you know, he's not

746
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 4: even he doesn't even have a GM down there in Bloomington.

747
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: You know a lot of these college programs now have gms.

748
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: So GM when you just tell hey, I win and.

749
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: Pay me what I do exactly.

750
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: So, I think the control of the roster. But you know,

751
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: I saw h we got a Twitter question or a

752
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: text line from Jay here asking about I don't know

753
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: if you guys saw the Rich eisenclip yesterday mentioned in

754
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: Hey raiders got the number one pick? Now? They need

755
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: a new head coach, Kurtz Signetti for Nanda Mendoza. You

756
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: know we always Lincoln Ryany and Caleb Williams a few

757
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: years ago. I think there is this thought, like you

758
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: pair the college coach at times with the quarterback. Here Again,

759
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: I can't see it, but you know, I think back

760
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: to when the Colts had an opening. I guess it

761
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: would have been the Josh McDaniels higher. You know, they

762
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: interviewed Matt Ruhle like we do see NFL teams interview

763
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: a college coach or two. And when you talk about

764
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: the CEO aspect of it, I think Jim Harball has

765
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: certainly proven to be able to handle that. But to me,

766
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: I think Signetti, I think he I'm trying to say

767
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: this politically correctly. I think he I'll just say it.

768
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: I think he gets off to what he's doing down there.

769
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 4: I know it's probably not the best phrase to use, but.

770
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 6: Like, good morning Indiana.

771
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I just became a bigger, right, I think,

772
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: and like I get it like he is building and

773
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: I should say built, but I also don't want to

774
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: say it like he's not still doing it. He is

775
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 4: building something absurd at a place where no one thought

776
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 4: it was possible, and that general idea that the movie script,

777
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: if you will, I think that is something that would feed, frankly,

778
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 4: anybody's ego and would feed his. And I don't think

779
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 4: all of a sudden he looks at it and says, well,

780
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm sixty How old is he?

781
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 7: What is he?

782
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: Sixty five?

783
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: Let's look it up, sixty something, sixty two or three?

784
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: And so yeah. I don't think he looks at it

785
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: and says, hey, I'm just going to be running to

786
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: the NFL at you know, the blink of an eye.

787
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 4: Because of my age here, I think he is unlike

788
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: a lot of probably piers his age. I think he

789
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: is right now thriving in a college football landscape filled

790
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: with chaos.

791
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: He is sixty four sixty four. Wow.

792
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at the contract that

793
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: he signed in October, he gets five hundred thousand dollars

794
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: base salary, then outside marketing and promotional income of nine

795
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: point sixty five million. He also gets an annual one

796
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: million dollar retention bonus, pushing his salary during the first

797
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: full salary term to eleven point one point five million

798
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: if he stays on campus. The contract goes to one

799
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: hundred goes up by one hundred thousand dollars every year,

800
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: and they're just the retention bonus that also goes up

801
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: to one point twenty five million as a base in

802
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine.

803
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 2: If he is still at the school.

804
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: It's a fully guaranteed contract, including those retention bonuses.

805
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: Should Indiana fire him.

806
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: If he leaves for another job, he would owe fifteen

807
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: million dollars over the next two years, twelve million dollars

808
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: in twenty seven, twenty eight, nine million in twenty eight

809
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and it decreases the longer he stays. And

810
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: then of course there's all kinds of incentives for advancing

811
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: through these college football playoffs, winning conference championships and things

812
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: like that. That sounds like a pretty good deal for

813
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: a guy who seems to have found a great home

814
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: in a great system and a great fit in Bloomington.

815
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the buyout thing never bothers me because he's

816
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: not paying it anyway. If you leave for the NFL,

817
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: you're telling the NFL pay them off, and I'll leave. Now.

818
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: He won't do that. But yeah, let's not sit up

819
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: here and act like that's a hurdle for him. I

820
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: will say this, and I'm going I'm on a tangent.

821
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: I would love to know how much NFL general managers

822
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: and coaches make. Could you imagine if we do the

823
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: salaries of Shan Styke and Chris Ballard, compare it to

824
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: the rest of the league.

825
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: Well, you explain this a little bit more. I don't

826
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: think this is common knowledge to a lot of sports

827
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: fans out.

828
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: There, from what I understand. Since kur Signetti, for example,

829
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: works for a public university, his salary is open to

830
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: the public because he's a state employee, So we can

831
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: look up his salary. We can look up at my school.

832
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: Whatever.

833
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can look up the salary of those who

834
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: are working there. Scott Dolson, you can look up his salary.

835
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: You can file request to get that information. You cannot

836
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: do that with the NFL, given that it's a private entity,

837
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: and it's just known that gms and coaches their salaries

838
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: are not public knowledge, and no one will ever tell

839
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: you what the number actually is. We'll hear ranges, we'll

840
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: hear ballparks, but we won't hear an official number. There's

841
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: no place we can go to like we do with

842
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 3: every NFL employee outside of well, the players, I would say,

843
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: compared to the front office executives and head coaches. So

844
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: I say that because I think we would look at

845
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: a lot of coaches and franchises and general managers differently

846
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 3: if we knew how much they were paying their top guys.

847
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: Because could you imagine, for example, if I don't know

848
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson was getting more money than Matt Lafleur or

849
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: something like that, how would you view that if you

850
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: knew that Shane Styking was getting paid more than Dan Campbell.

851
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he is, but just I'm very curious

852
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 3: about that, And I do think that is a leverage

853
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: point that there's a whole other tangent, but that the

854
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: league uses to kind of keep leverage over players because

855
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: there's no way we shouldn't know how much they make

856
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: when everything else is available.

857
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of wild in today's climate that we

858
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 4: don't know that. This gets a little bit into what

859
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: we're discussing earlier in the week about was and carl

860
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: Ors Gordon disagreed with it. But we're finances at play here.

861
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: You know, if you are to fire ballad with one

862
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: year left, if you are to fire Stike in the

863
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 4: three years left and hire an entirely new, you know whatever,

864
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 4: scouting staff and coaching staff. It's probably what a thirty

865
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: to forty million decision at least when it's all said

866
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: and done. At least, you know, is that something that

867
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: is at play.

868
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: Here are the estimates for the time I real quick,

869
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: I want to say this, apologies for those who are

870
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: watching on the YouTube stream. Looks like that went down

871
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: and we'll try to figure that out here over the

872
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: next couple of minutes.

873
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: The top five estimates on the top five NFL highest

874
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: paid coaches to kind of give you an idea of

875
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: where guys might be, and I don't think our guys

876
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: are in the upper tier. Andy Reid's estimated to be

877
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: making twenty million dollars a year. Sean Payton is estimated

878
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: to be making eighteen million. John Harbaugh had been making

879
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: they estimate eighteen million in twenty twenty five, and then

880
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: Tomlin and Jim Harbaugh we're both getting sixteen million dollars.

881
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: So that's that's a lot of money right there, man.

882
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: It is. But again, I would just like to know

883
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: officially what is everybody's salary, And I never will get

884
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 3: the answer to that. It's the same way with the

885
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: NBA and every other major pro sports team that I

886
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: can think of in North America. So I mean, just

887
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: a little stand on my solf box moment right there.

888
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 4: What Stephen Holer going to join us here in ten

889
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 4: What worries you guys about Oregon on Friday Night?

890
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: Well, their quarterback. Yeah, I think the quarterback is to do.

891
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: Dante Moore is definitely a guy who can make plays.

892
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: I think their defense is legit as well. I don't

893
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: think you can dismiss them, at least in my opinion.

894
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: I don't think you can dismiss them being a formidable defense.

895
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 3: After you hold a team in the college football playoff

896
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: without a point, a single point, and I mean as

897
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: great as I you was in their first COLLG football

898
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: playoff game, they also did not hold them scoreless. So

899
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: those two things stand out to me. Quarterback, when you

900
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: have a chance to have the best play on the field,

901
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 3: which I'm not saying Dante Moore is, you do have

902
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: the heisman on I use roster, but in certain moments

903
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: he could be So that gives me a little a fear.

904
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it at Oregon.

905
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: The one thing that they're going to try to figure

906
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: out is how do they stop the pressure that they

907
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: faced against that Indiana front seven that was all over them.

908
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: That was the difference in the football game.

909
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: Certainly, Dante more had never been pressured like that at

910
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: any point in the season up until then.

911
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: He's a very talented quarterback.

912
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: They have great skill position players. If they can figure

913
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: out a way to just give him that half second

914
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: more time, that's what worries me. The ability to look

915
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: at what happened in that first game, make a couple

916
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: of adjustments protect him a little bit better.

917
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: They can score points. That's the worry that I would have.

918
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had pretty bullish on the IU defense, So I.

919
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: Love their defense. I'm just saying, you asked me what

920
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: worries me That rar worries me, James, I think you.

921
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 4: Brought the other day, like Oregon, maybe hitting a few,

922
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 4: you know, huge chunks. I think that's going to be

923
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 4: vital for them to try and create points and move

924
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: the ball. And then on the flip side, you know,

925
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: I watched pretty much that entire Texas Tech game. Comparing

926
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: that Texas Tech quarterback to Mendoz is like comparing me

927
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: on the golf course to Scottish it just would be ludicrous.

928
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: And so I just think Mendoza will handle. You know,

929
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 4: first off, I don't think that Oregon d line will

930
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: affect the quarterback as much as they did in that

931
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: first matchup. And you know, a sneaky thing about Mendoza.

932
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it maybe looks as the prettiest looking

933
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: at times when he's running it, but he's effective when

934
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: he makes a play with his legs, and I do

935
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: think that part of it could come in really handy.

936
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: He gives me like the no no, no, yes vibe

937
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: right move because I'm just like, oh, it's kind of

938
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: an awkward runner, but it works, and he's smart enough,

939
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: to his credit, at least when he's finishing his runs,

940
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: he always gets down. If you do that, I'll love you.

941
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 7: Yeah.

942
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 4: But I mean, when you think about it, these teams

943
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: are what combined twenty seven to one on the air. Yeah,

944
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: the one losses to the other one. They allowed a

945
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: combined three points in the quarterfinal round. We could be

946
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: looking at the first two picks in the draft. If

947
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: you were going to rank college football coaches right now,

948
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: I think a list you don't get very far in

949
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: the list at all, before you get to Signetty and

950
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: Dan Landy's names, you know this is a very juicy matchup.

951
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: These are now heavyweights. Yeah. I don't know nationally if

952
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: it's resonating because maybe the brands aren't whatever, Bama, Georgia,

953
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: Ohio State, et cetera. But damn this is on paper,

954
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 4: this is about exactly what you'd want in a semi

955
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 4: final matchup coming up on Friday.

956
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: I think the country looks at Indiana a little bit

957
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: differently after that Alabama game because they were so in

958
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: control of that football game. They dominated both sides of

959
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, their position players. Certainly, the running

960
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: game was way better than Alabama's running game.

961
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: They were just clearly. If you watch that game, you

962
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: look at that game.

963
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: And you go, yeah, Indiana would win this maybe ten

964
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: times out of ten, if not nine out of ten.

965
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people saw that, Hey, yeah,

966
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: the record's great these last years, we've heard about Kurt

967
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: Signetti and Indiana, But if you haven't really watched them,

968
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: and you watch that game the other night, they spanked

969
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: Alabama like that, That game was not close.

970
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: How much do you think that's a conversation. Still, is

971
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 3: Indiana for real, for like.

972
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Not us for some people outside this region.

973
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: If you have to put like a number on it

974
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: out of one hundred.

975
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: I mean, those people are idiots at this point. I mean,

976
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: they just won at Oregon, Ohio State on neutral field,

977
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: and I get that.

978
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 3: It's not no I'm saying to the point about people

979
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: being idiots. I think the number is pretty low now

980
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: because I just don't.

981
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: Get better be low.

982
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 7: Yeah.

983
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: Again, I'm not gonna act like this is normal Alabama,

984
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: but still beat the brakes off them on a neutral

985
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: field as well.

986
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 3: Normal Alabama. Now, I mean you look at the landscape

987
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: of the I get what you're saying, like the history

988
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: history of.

989
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 4: Alabama twenty twelve Alabama.

990
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean this is a brave new world

991
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: we're living in right now. And so I'm just very

992
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: curious to know anyone out there who probably doesn't think

993
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: they're the favorite at this point.

994
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: It's it's wild to sit here and say it would

995
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: be a disappointment if Indiana doesn't win at all, and

996
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: think about this.

997
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: That's that's right.

998
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to go there, but right, but that feels.

999
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 4: Like like that's how it and again, that is a

1000
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: credit to them, like you earn the right to be

1001
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: in that category. With how they play this season, they

1002
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 4: have earned the right. Look at the Vegas odds Mark,

1003
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: look up the national title odds. If you look at

1004
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: it right now, Indiana is relatively close to even money

1005
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: to win it all. And again, something it probably has

1006
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 4: to do with the other side of the bracket is

1007
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 4: a six and a ten. And it's not whatever Georgia

1008
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: Ohio State on the other side of the bracket. But

1009
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: you know, again, Indiana already beat Ohio State.

1010
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: Strap Lady Kevin.

1011
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: If they end up winning these next two games, they

1012
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: will have had a wreck. Not only will it be

1013
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: sixteen and oh, that had been five and oh against

1014
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: anyone they played that participated in the College Football Playoff.

1015
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: Think about that five and oh against teams that played

1016
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: in the playoff.

1017
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean and again, how many of those games

1018
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: away from home? All of them?

1019
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: Right?

1020
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1021
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 6: I U is plus one twenty eight the outright winners

1022
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 6: of the national championship Oregon plus three fifteen, Miami plus

1023
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 6: three forty, Ole miss plus five fifty.

1024
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and plus one twenty eight. It's at ten bucks

1025
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: to win twelve.

1026
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 6: Pretty much yeah.

1027
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: So, yeah, that's a big nod from great investment from Vegas.

1028
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll talk more cults.

1029
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: Steven Older had some interesting things to say and write

1030
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: about all the things that have happened with the Indianapolis

1031
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: cults over the last forty eight hours. We'll talk to

1032
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: him about those things next as we continue the Fan

1033
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Morning Show ninety three five one oh seven five to

1034
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: the fan, Good morning. I hope you're having a good

1035
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, hopping in your.

1036
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: Call, getting your car, getting ready for the day.

1037
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: We've got you covered here with all the very latest

1038
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: on the colts and the pacers who are struggling right now.

1039
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: Give you everything you need to know in about five minutes.

1040
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: Coming up at about fifteen, But right now, we want

1041
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: to check in with one of our favorite guests, Stephen

1042
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: Holder from ESPN dot com. He covers the Indianapolis Colts

1043
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: and he joins us on the Payless Liquors hotline. Happy Wednesday, Steven,

1044
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: nothing going on in the world of anybody who covers

1045
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: the cults this week?

1046
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: Correct?

1047
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 7: What are the cults? I don't know what you're talking about.

1048
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, we're trying to figure out what.

1049
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 7: The cults are playing this week, I will say.

1050
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: That, yeah, trying to figure out what the cults are

1051
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: at this point in time, aren't we.

1052
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1053
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's a pivottle time, but we're trying

1054
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 9: to figure it out. I mean, I thought this week

1055
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 9: was a perfect encapsulation of just, you know, a lot

1056
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 9: of years of frustration them on the fan base. So

1057
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 9: I get it, and I think I do think the

1058
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 9: airs A family is probably not surprised by it, but

1059
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 9: I don't know that there's a perfect way to deal

1060
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 9: with it, right. So that's kind of where we are.

1061
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: So, Stephen, we talked to you last week on these airwaves.

1062
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: You are pretty confident that no changes were going to

1063
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 3: be made. Now why were you that confident back then

1064
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: before it had officially been announced.

1065
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 9: Well, because all the conversations I had had indicated to

1066
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 9: me that that the the I guess inside the building

1067
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 9: that they were talking about next year, and they were

1068
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 9: on to next year at that point. And you don't

1069
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 9: you don't have the you don't have the comfort level

1070
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 9: to have those kinds of conversations unless there's a comfort

1071
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 9: level with your job, you know, And and it just

1072
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 9: seemed very clear to me.

1073
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 7: The other thing is that.

1074
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 9: I think in reality, look, obviously rebooting right now would

1075
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 9: have been an easy thing to do in terms of

1076
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 9: making fans happy, but I do think it was much

1077
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 9: more complex than then.

1078
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 7: People may be realized.

1079
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 9: It is risky to go forward and move forward with

1080
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 9: Chris Ballard and Daniel Jones coming off in Achilles and

1081
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 9: the track record of Chris and all that, that has

1082
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 9: its own risk. But I also think rebooting now was complex,

1083
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 9: and I don't know if they were ready to go there.

1084
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 9: To be completely honest, I think next year, if it fails,

1085
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 9: I think it's an easier reboot next year.

1086
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: But you know, we'll see, Steven, you need to clear up,

1087
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of maybe gray area comments and

1088
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: if you could maybe throw out what you think the

1089
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 4: black and white if it means let's start with the

1090
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 4: higher sense of urgency than last year, that gray area

1091
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: means what to you black and white wise?

1092
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, well, first of all, I wish we

1093
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 9: didn't have to interpret as much, but I also understand

1094
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 9: why Carly would never come out and say if we

1095
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 9: don't do X there fire, that's I would never do

1096
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Speaker 9: that as an owner. Okay, I will defend her on that,

1097
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 9: but you have to be you have to communicate it better.

1098
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 9: I would say to your question, I think it's pretty clear. Actually,

1099
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 9: I think they got to do something big. I don't

1100
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 9: think it can just be nine and eight get a

1101
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 9: wild card. I mean they have to be I think

1102
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 9: they have to be a team that's doing something. It'd

1103
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 9: be going somewhere, all right. If you're saying we think

1104
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 9: we're onto something, we think we were one of the

1105
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 9: best teams in the NFL. We traded for Sauce Gardner

1106
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 9: because we thought we could be in contention for the

1107
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 9: super Bowl. That tells me that's the conversation we need

1108
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 9: to be having. I'm not saying they have to win

1109
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 9: the super Bowl or go to the super Bowl, but

1110
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 9: I mean I think it has to be something very

1111
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 9: tangible that they can say this is real progress. Making

1112
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 9: a wild card is not necessarily a real progress because

1113
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 9: you can do that in the same sort of rough

1114
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 9: neighborhood of record that they've been in the last couple

1115
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 9: of years.

1116
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 7: Right, So, I mean nine.

1117
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 9: To eight can get you in the playoffs, But does

1118
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 9: nine and eight mean you're going somewhere as a franchise. No,

1119
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 9: it does not, so at least for me, That's what

1120
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Speaker 9: I think it means. I think you have to be

1121
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 9: showing that we are going somewhere and it's sustainable. That's

1122
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 9: the other thing. It has to be sustainable. If it's

1123
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 9: a one year who the hell cares, right, it has

1124
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 9: to be sustainable, okay.

1125
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 4: And the other answer that I think it was a

1126
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 4: little bit of gray area. And again I understand why,

1127
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: but you know, the old tied at the hip? Are

1128
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 4: they tied at the hip? One was hired in twenty

1129
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 4: seventeen and Chris Boward Chane Sakon was hired in twenty

1130
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: twenty three. Carly's answer to that was, you know, I

1131
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: guess we'll find out next year on this day. Part

1132
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: of me when she said that, was like, Donna, no, dah,

1133
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 4: do you think like there could be a chance we

1134
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 4: get to next year Black Monday and all of a

1135
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 4: sudden she views one of them differently than the other,

1136
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: and we get a moving forward of the franchise of

1137
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: one is here and the other is not.

1138
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 9: I mean, I think that answer is isn't admission that

1139
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 9: she doesn't know? And I think that's okay. But I

1140
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 9: think the takeaway from it is that we could see

1141
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 9: a situation like that, we could. I think she left

1142
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 9: the door open. I think we have to at least

1143
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 9: say that much and then we'll see what happens next year.

1144
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 9: But but that was my interpretation of it is it's

1145
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 9: very possible.

1146
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: Frankly Steven Older joining us on the Payloft Slickers hotline.

1147
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: How does Chris Ballard go about improving this roster in

1148
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: the offseason, A bunch of unrestricted free agents, no first

1149
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: round draft pick.

1150
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: Where does he go?

1151
00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 7: Well?

1152
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 9: I think think the other takeaway I had, again they

1153
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 9: need to interpret is unfortunate. But one of the other

1154
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 9: takeaways I had was that I think Carl Ersay is

1155
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 9: on board with like, let's go do something big. I mean,

1156
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 9: that was one of my takeaways.

1157
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 7: I mean she.

1158
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 9: Actually said one of the reasons she decided to keep

1159
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 9: Chris Balard is because he decided to get off his

1160
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 9: butt in free agency and do some more aggressive team building. Right,

1161
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 9: So what does that look like?

1162
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 7: Though? Next skars is the problem? Or this year? I

1163
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 7: guess they do.

1164
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 9: Have limited resources, certainly from the draft pick perspective, I

1165
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 9: think they can open up some salary and they're gonna

1166
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 9: have to make some tough choices. So if you've been told,

1167
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 9: if you have been told that everything is on the

1168
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 9: line this year, and you're Chris Ballard, well then you

1169
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 9: can't worry about hurt feelings.

1170
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 7: Man. All Right, They're gonna have to part.

1171
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 9: Ways with some players that he might personally like and

1172
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 9: think are good for the locker room, but on Sundays,

1173
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 9: maybe don't hold up their end of the bargain. You know,

1174
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 9: we can debate who that is, right. There's there are

1175
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 9: several veterans that they can look at. But I do

1176
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 9: think the roster will look probably more different last year

1177
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 9: than we have next year, isscue me, than we have

1178
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 9: seen in the past in terms of roster changes, because

1179
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 9: they do love continuity, there's no question, right. But continuity

1180
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 9: has got you with your job on the line, So

1181
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 9: good job with that, right, So they have to be

1182
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 9: more aggressive in how they shape this roster, and I

1183
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 9: think we saw the beginning of it last year.

1184
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 7: I think we'll see more of it this year.

1185
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: One last one from me, Steven. When you look at

1186
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: the quarterback situation, should there be a contingency plan built

1187
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: in beyond Riley Leonard possibly stepping in for a few

1188
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 3: games with Dale Jones to recovering from an Achilles' injury.

1189
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that is a that's a difficult choice, right,

1190
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 9: I mean, I can make an argument for or against it.

1191
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1192
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 9: I think it's I said, I lean toward yes, right because.

1193
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 7: That Achilles situation. I know, I know. I know they're optimistic.

1194
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 9: Okay, that's great, but you're dealing with a devastating injury here.

1195
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 7: I think it's risky. I really do.

1196
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 9: I'm not saying they're wrong because I don't know what

1197
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 9: other quarterback it can come in and do what Daniel

1198
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 9: Jones did last year. I don't know who they can

1199
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 9: get that could possibly do that.

1200
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: Well, you tell Fernanda Mendoza to tank his interviews and

1201
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: then he ends up in the second round you draft.

1202
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: Him number two, right.

1203
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1204
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 9: I think I think it's they have to weigh that

1205
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 9: very carefully. I'm not giving a good answer because I

1206
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 9: think it's really tough. I really do.

1207
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 7: I think there's something there with Riley Leonard. I am not.

1208
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 9: I am not all the way on board with the

1209
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 9: Riley Leonard hive. Okay, like Riley Leonard is the next

1210
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 9: you know Tom Brady, He's not I think he's probably

1211
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 9: a backup in the NFL and maybe a short a

1212
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 9: short stint starter if you need one.

1213
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 7: So we'll see. That's a tough call, and I don't

1214
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 7: know the answer.

1215
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 9: To be completely honest with you, I think it's a

1216
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 9: close call, really close call.

1217
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: Steven. I apologize if you kind of answered this when

1218
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 4: Jeff threw it your way. But like this time last year,

1219
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: the first week of January, I think we all were

1220
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 4: under the impression two things were either happening or about

1221
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: to happen. One, the defensive philosophy was going to change.

1222
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 4: Gus Bradley was gone and they were going to hire

1223
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: a new defensive coordinator. Obviously that became lou N Rumo.

1224
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: The other thing that we knew was Chris Ballard said

1225
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 4: for the first time really ever, that he needed to

1226
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: change his free agency philosophy, and again two months later,

1227
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: the actions backed up those words. As we sit here now,

1228
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: albeit twenty four hours from Ballard talking, you know you

1229
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier maybe partying ways with some vets. I don't

1230
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: see like obvious staff changes really at all. Am I

1231
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 4: missing something? You know, the lack of a first round

1232
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: pick hamstrings you a little bit. They do have capspit.

1233
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 4: He's granted a big chunk of that's got to go

1234
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: to the quarterback, and you would think Alec Pierce. So

1235
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 4: I guess I'm lacking clarity on what might be different

1236
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 4: this offseason or is this largely Hey, it's going to

1237
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: be a running back and we'll just bank on better health.

1238
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 9: I mean, they that is I think the biggest part

1239
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 9: of it, Let's be honest, right, the biggest part of

1240
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 9: it is they are praying to the football gods okay,

1241
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 9: who have not been kind to them. Okay, and I'm

1242
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 9: borrowing from Mersey here. He loved the football gods or

1243
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 9: love to talk about them, and so that's the biggest

1244
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 9: part of it. But I do think you've got to

1245
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 9: make maybe some smart savvy moves. And look, they won't

1246
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 9: they maybe won't be headline moves. Okay, They're going to

1247
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 9: have to make some smart, savvy moves. And Chris Baler

1248
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 9: has done this before. In fact, the only time he's

1249
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 9: ever gotten anything out of the pass rush is when

1250
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 9: he has made those kinds of moves.

1251
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 7: So figure it out.

1252
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 9: Find that second tier of pass rushers who can get

1253
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 9: you some some production for a year or two and

1254
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 9: get yourself out of this. You know, I think that's

1255
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 9: what they're going to have to do, because I mean,

1256
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 9: you know, Prime von Miller is not walking through that door,

1257
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 9: nor could you afford him, right, So I don't I

1258
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 9: get what you were saying, Kevin, and it's it's not

1259
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 9: going to be the easiest thing in the world. They

1260
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 9: are banking heavily. I think on that back end, we

1261
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 9: don't know what Shavarius Award is going to do, obviously,

1262
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 9: but certainly Sauce Gardner is a fabulous player. You know,

1263
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 9: they're they're banking a lot. I think on on those

1264
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 9: moves and those guys staying healthy. But you know, I agree,

1265
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 9: it's a risky plan, There's no question about it.

1266
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: Steven, always good to talk to you.

1267
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time on a Wednesday morning, and we'll check

1268
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: in with you again next week.

1269
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: Good luck to your canes, all right, and Steven, take that?

1270
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: Take that all brother?

1271
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 7: Oh look at that?

1272
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: Wow, great, all of a sudden good news.

1273
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 4: Three months ago he said the same thing about Illinois

1274
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: over Indiana.

1275
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: I waited to win. Now I'm talking about the National

1276
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: Sports Writer of the Year. I think he was one

1277
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: of the final man. You guys gonna have to be separated.

1278
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have to separate the two v the

1279
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: next time we see you together?

1280
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: The dumb button, Steven, if you would like to just

1281
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: dunk on him right now?

1282
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 7: All right, guys, I'll see I'll see the rest of

1283
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 7: you later.

1284
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: There you go.

1285
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 6: Last year at the Combine, we had the Rappaport and

1286
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 6: Schultz showdown the Holder and shown to the JW.

1287
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 4: Marriott, Star Starbucks hands here.

1288
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: The man put in like the best word ever for

1289
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: me to help me get to the athletics. So shout

1290
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: Stephen Holder, who I do you know had humble a

1291
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: little bit man?

1292
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: You woke up on a Wednesday and chose violence. Chains.

1293
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: We've texted about this, and you know me gott to

1294
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 3: be petty to the end.

1295
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: It's the Fan Morning Show with James Boyd over there

1296
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: with his skillet in hands, just smacking people upside the head.

1297
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: Kevin bowing over here on my left, talking all week

1298
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: about the Indianapolis Colts, and they do have a lot

1299
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: of roster decisions to make if they want to make

1300
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: some room and try to do some things.

1301
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: How ham strung are they right now as you look

1302
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: at it, Kevin?

1303
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: What is it? James cap space is forty No, I

1304
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: think it's just north of fifty right now, Oh, let

1305
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 4: me check right, I think it for you, just north

1306
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 4: of fifty. So let's play this out. Let's say franchise

1307
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,479
Speaker 4: tag for Alex Pierce. Okay, that's twenty eight million. Let's

1308
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 4: say Daniel Jones gets what.

1309
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: Thirty a year, spots Shock has his market value at

1310
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: forty three.

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: He's not getting that.

1312
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: No, no, he's not getting that. I think let's I think.

1313
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: Let's find a happy meeting. Let's call thirty five. So

1314
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: thirty five there, twenty eight for Pierce. So that's what

1315
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: fifty three? No, that's sixty three, isn't it. Yeah, So yeah,

1316
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 4: you're obviously gonna have to open up some cap space.

1317
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not even getting to Nick Cross

1318
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 4: or Braden Smith or you know, whoever else would fall

1319
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 4: on that list that you would like to bring back.

1320
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: I kind of you, Braiden Smith as you passed the torch.

1321
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: I think Nick Cross actually had a decent year. I

1322
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: liked it, but I can't see paying too safeties the

1323
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: amount of money that he likely will merit. So yeah,

1324
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: I think you got some you know, that's kind of

1325
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: why I asked even the question, you know that a

1326
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: first round pick maneuvering this offseason with significant upgrades, It's

1327
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: not sitting there on a platter for you. You're going

1328
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: to have to do some things Chris Board has not done,

1329
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 4: i e. Cut or trade or restructure Michael Pittman Jr.

1330
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 4: And then Zia Franklin, and then Kenny Moore and then

1331
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: Grover Stewart. I mean there's a lot of guys Forrest Buckner.

1332
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 4: Maybe there's a lot of guys on that list. You

1333
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 4: can extend a guy like Nelson and kind of push

1334
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 4: that cappit a little bit further out there. But and

1335
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 4: again this gets into the I guess the Anthony Richardson combo.

1336
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: I think the expectation is he will be traded. The

1337
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson cappit for next year is ten point eight million.

1338
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: Just given that number, I cannot see him on your

1339
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: football team. I guess if we want to put a

1340
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 4: bowt eye on it, and James feel free to chime

1341
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 4: in with I know you were You and I were

1342
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: both kind of the same scrum with Richardson a couple

1343
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 4: of weeks back the third season for him with injuries

1344
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 4: obviously the I ended up being fourteen snaps over two games,

1345
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: and I guess, ironically, weirdly oddly, the one pass he

1346
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 4: completed in his third year was to himself.

1347
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: That right there, that's it probably be the end all

1348
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: be all theme.

1349
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: Can you get a middle ish round pick for him?

1350
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: And I think he would honestly probably welcome a change

1351
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: of scenery.

1352
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: How about this though, and you've been talking about it

1353
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: throughout the week, but if money Ward did decide to

1354
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: call it quits.

1355
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: That's twenty million dollars.

1356
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 4: Well yeah, again, Ward's money would clear some up certainly,

1357
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 4: so that would help you out there. Last thing, I'm

1358
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 4: going to just add on Richardson because I think some

1359
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 4: people have asked about this a lot. And again, James,

1360
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: you were right there with me, and there's nothing I

1361
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: hate more than trying to compare you know, average human

1362
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 4: injury to football injury. But in listening to Anthony Richardson

1363
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: describe his vision impairment, basically, he said the issues for

1364
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 4: him late this season were not downfield impairment when he

1365
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 4: was practicing. It was more of the immediate. He used

1366
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: the phrase one foot radius around him again, my hand

1367
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: is raised, is feel free to rip me if this

1368
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 4: is a stupid comment. But as someone that wears contacts,

1369
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: wears glasses. When I go the eye doctor, they dilate

1370
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 4: my eyes, and for the first few hours after a

1371
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 4: dilation occurs, I can drive. But guys, I can't see

1372
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Speaker 4: this mic in front of me. It's blurry as hell.

1373
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 4: So it's weird. I always find it odd, like I

1374
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 4: can't open up my laptop for like the first two

1375
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: hours after I go the eye doctor. I can barely

1376
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 4: look at my phone. I've got to hold it like

1377
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: way out to see it. I guess that was the

1378
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: general impairment that Richardson was going through. Again. The hope

1379
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: is that will clear up here in the twenty twenty

1380
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: SES offseason. But you know, he mentioned to us he

1381
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 4: had trouble at times fielding snaps in practice, so that

1382
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: was a little bit anything else. I guess Richardson related

1383
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 4: because I know you. You know you also asked him

1384
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: a couple other questions.

1385
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: What do you think is that I thought of, James?

1386
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think a lot of it has to

1387
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: do with will the one foot box radius get better?

1388
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 3: And that's the question that whenever we ask that part

1389
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: of it, the assumption is that it will, but there's

1390
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: no certainty, and I think that is what makes anyone

1391
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: hesitant about his future. So even when we talk about

1392
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 3: getting a mid to late round pick for Anthony Richardson,

1393
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 3: the team that makes that deal has to be sure

1394
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: that he can see fully. I would make that move

1395
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: just based off of, Okay, I think you're going to

1396
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: get better, So what does that look like? And we

1397
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: didn't get a chance to talk to him or follow

1398
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 3: up with him on locker clean out day. A lot

1399
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: of guys came in, some guys you know, dipped out

1400
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 3: pretty quick. And nothing against those guys, but I'm glad

1401
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: we did get that opportunity because I did ask Hi

1402
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: about his future. He said he always thinks about his future.

1403
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 3: He didn't express any ill will towards the Colts, but

1404
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: it also didn't sound like a ringing endorsement of keep

1405
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: me here so I can prove myself again. I think

1406
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: he knows this is the end of the road and

1407
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: the eye. In a way, I kind of stole an

1408
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: opportunity from him to show something before he might have

1409
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: been headed out anyways, because I think even the narrative

1410
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 3: around Anthony, for better or worse, would have been different

1411
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: had he been able to play when Daniel Jones went down.

1412
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: What do you think the realistic come the realistic compensation

1413
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: would be if you were to be able to trade him,

1414
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: You said mid round pick, Kevin.

1415
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1416
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: If you can get a mid round pick for him,

1417
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: they are lucky if.

1418
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: You get a fifth. I personally think it would be

1419
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: like a sixth.

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01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: I think a six second.

1421
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 4: It's because you're absorbing the ten point eight zero.

1422
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: It's all the things, you know, it's everything.

1423
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: I think it's because you're absorbing the ten point eight million,

1424
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 3: the injury history and the current injury history with the eye,

1425
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 3: you just don't know fully. And again, if I'm a team,

1426
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: I need to know one hundred percent what your eye

1427
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: limitations are are not before I make that move.

1428
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: Look, there are a lot of teams out there that

1429
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 4: if I were in a whatever, if I were in

1430
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: a troubling quarterback situation, I'd happily send a fifth there.

1431
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, what, you know, if I had capspace galore,

1432
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 4: why not give it a try? And you know, see

1433
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 4: if this is the ultimate wake up.

1434
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: Call for him and that's a Philly move or something

1435
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: not saying Philly would do that they have a quarterback,

1436
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 3: but just like you said, they usually kick the tires

1437
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 3: on like a couple of.

1438
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 4: Different part of me thought the Rams. You know, does

1439
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 4: Stafford have one more year in him? And he watches

1440
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 4: that and Nickveigh and all that, so I'll be you're kind.

1441
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 3: Of poised to possibly draft someone soon. So could Anthony?

1442
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: Could he be like a bridge get.

1443
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 4: Back to first rounders with Atlantas this year, so you know,

1444
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 4: maybe they are going to be the quarterback market here

1445
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 4: in April. But I do think it's important for the

1446
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 4: Colts to try and explore that because again, without a

1447
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 4: first round pick, I think you need to try to

1448
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: replenish some of that. Not that whatever get me a

1449
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 4: fifth rounder for him is going to do that. But

1450
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 4: you know, I am curious, is there anything else that

1451
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 4: you can do from a veteran player like that question

1452
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: I asked Steven that would be very anti Chris Ballard.

1453
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: Outside of Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz. I can't think

1454
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: of any non quarterback that he has signed and then

1455
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 4: later moved on from, with notable bunny left on their deal.

1456
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm missing somebody, but in his nine years, that

1457
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: has never been his m and we see a lot

1458
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 4: of teams and or gms practice that from around the league,

1459
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 4: So that will be a question certainly for tomorrow and

1460
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: for the rest of the off seasons.

1461
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 6: So teams that have the most draft capital that maybe

1462
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 6: would be more intrigued to make a move like that.

1463
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 6: The Patriots have ten picks in the twenty twenty six draft.

1464
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 6: The Browns, Eagles, Dolphins, Rams each have nine. Jaguars, Bills,

1465
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 6: Bears have eight.

1466
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 4: So the Patriots are the two seed and they have

1467
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: ten drafts.

1468
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about the Dolphins?

1469
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: To see Tua said he's up for a fresh start somewhere,

1470
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: so that yesterday.

1471
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 4: I feel like it's been trending that way. But miked

1472
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,919
Speaker 4: Daniel Safe, I don't know. I suppose as they hire

1473
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 4: a new GM.

1474
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure. I think he showed something,

1475
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 3: showed a little life there at the end of the

1476
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: season with brought back. But yeah, also two was saying

1477
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: that he's ready for potentially a change of scenery. According

1478
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: to Jeff and whatever reset he might have read, Uh, yeah,

1479
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 3: that wasn't a too decision. That's the team decision too.

1480
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, you play very poorly. The team is

1481
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: absolutely going to move on from you.

1482
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: A lot of possibilities in the offseason. It's gonna be

1483
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: fascinating and we'll keep you prized on all of it.

1484
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: Here on ninety three five and one, seven to five.

1485
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: De fan mark all right.

1486
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: The Indiana Pacers have lost a franchise record thirteen straight games,

1487
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: the latest last night at the field House. Squadering a

1488
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 1: nine point lead to start the fourth quarter, they lose

1489
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1490
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: One, twenty to one. Sixteen.

1491
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: Indiana native Darius Garland scored twenty nine points for Cleveland.

1492
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam had twenty two to lead the Pacers, but

1493
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 1: they were out rebounded Kevin forty eight to thirty two.

1494
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 1: And there was a stretch in the first seven eight

1495
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: minutes of that fourth quarter just nothing was going right

1496
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: for the Pacers.

1497
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I found it very fitting that all of a sudden,

1498
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: the broadcast crapped out on me with about three minutes

1499
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 4: to go. I think it was a sign from the

1500
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 4: basketball gods. If you don't want to see how this

1501
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: is going to end, you know how it's going to end.

1502
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, first two, really three quarters they played pretty

1503
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 4: darn good. And then like you said, Jeff, it unraveled

1504
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 4: there pretty quickly. So December eighth, tomorrow will be the

1505
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 4: one month anniversary last time we've seen the Colts of

1506
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 4: the Pacers win a game.

1507
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: M They were outscored thirty six to twenty three in

1508
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, James, and it was everything. They were

1509
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: being out rebounded, there were some turnovers, they just couldn't

1510
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: hit shots.

1511
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 2: It just all cratered it once when it looked so good.

1512
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was rough. And I thought Darius Garland, the

1513
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 3: Indiana native shot out to Gary, got it done there

1514
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: late and the Pacers just couldn't really match his output.

1515
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 7: All Right.

1516
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: College basketball, by the way, Rick Carla is still stuck

1517
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: on wind number nine hundred ninety nine.

1518
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 2: That thousandth is gonna be tough to get.

1519
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: And he's he's had the back of his players, he said,

1520
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: he's really been impressed by how they've been battling. That

1521
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: just they got to find a way to put it

1522
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: all together. And again, so many different starting lineups. How

1523
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: many did you say already this year?

1524
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: Eighteen?

1525
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 4: Believe that's the number yet eighteen may them mount. They

1526
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 4: had all eighty two games.

1527
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: Last year at another field house.

1528
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: Last night at the cross Town it was Hinklefield House

1529
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: hosting Saint John's and Butler.

1530
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 2: Butler was dead even.

1531
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: With Saint John's at halftime, but it all went sideways

1532
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: in the second half. Saint John's wins at eighty four

1533
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: to seventy. Bulldogs committed twenty turnovers on the night. Michaeljaia

1534
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: had fourteen points nine rebounds, but did play for much

1535
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: of the second.

1536
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: Half with four fouls.

1537
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: They will play again a week from today at Xavier.

1538
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 1: There now one in four to start Big East Conference play.

1539
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 1: Later on tonight, Kevin doubleheader on the Big ten Network

1540
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 1: Indiana Maryland six thirty.

1541
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: Perdue will host Washington at eight thirty.

1542
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: So don't need even don't even need two screens tonight,

1543
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: just keep it on the Big ten Network.

1544
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you look at Perdue. Obviously, we saw Washington Sunday

1545
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 4: down there in Indiana. Did't get a little bit mo

1546
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 4: talented than maybe the record indicates. But Purdue has been

1547
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 4: great here of the last five, winning them by an

1548
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: average of twenty five. Several of those wins also away

1549
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 4: from home. Important I think for Purdue to take care

1550
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 4: of business this week it's Washington and Penn State, and

1551
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: then they got a really tough stretch after that, and

1552
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 4: for Indiana, I get we fall into this. Hey, it's

1553
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 4: the road, it's the Big Ten. Maryland is the worst

1554
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 4: team in the Big Ten, and they could be without

1555
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 4: their best player, Feral Payne has missed the last three

1556
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 4: games of the knee injuries. So Indiana is a seven

1557
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: and a half point favorite. This would be Indiana's first

1558
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 4: true road win of the year.

1559
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: I will say this real quick. One player that Purdue

1560
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: has to keep an eye on is Kamari Peterson, the

1561
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 3: former Gary west side guard. He transferred to Washington and

1562
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: is having a hell of a year and he's someone

1563
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: I will keep an eye on tonight, rooting for him personally,

1564
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 3: but obviously Purdue needs to win a little bit more

1565
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 3: than they do.

1566
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 1: And the big news in the NFL yesterday John Harbaugh

1567
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: out as the Ravens head coach after eighteen seasons they

1568
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs.

1569
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: There had been speculation.

1570
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:04,440
Speaker 1: That maybe he and Lamar Jackson weren't quite seeing.

1571
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: Eye to eye these days.

1572
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: But Steve's Piscatti the owner moving on after eighteen seasons

1573
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: for a man who's won a Super Bowl, and I

1574
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: think he's fourteen and eleven all time in the postseason.

1575
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: It was time. They lost too many games in too

1576
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: many stupid ways. And I'm not saying he's not a

1577
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 3: good coach, but at some point it gets stale, and

1578
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: I feel like that same sort of thing is happening

1579
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Although they made the playoff, they

1580
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 3: have won a playoff games in twenty sixteen. Does that

1581
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 3: change Monday Night against Houston? Possibly, but it was time

1582
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 3: in my opinion, and I guess.

1583
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: One note on the Baltimore fronts, Chuck Mgano went back

1584
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 4: into coaching last year with John Harbor on his staff,

1585
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 4: So I'll be curious if John gets another job, will

1586
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 4: Chuck follow that or could this be back into retirement

1587
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 4: for Chuck Magone.

1588
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: You get three days of playoffs in this wild card round.

1589
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: Saturday, you get a doubleheader.

1590
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: Sunday a double header, and you get a Monday night

1591
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: football game too, Kevin.

1592
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: So there you go to your favorite week end of the.

1593
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 4: Year, Wretch. It's It's Friday and of tomorrow Fiesta Bowl

1594
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: tomorrow Miami and Old Miss Friday. I you and ore again.

1595
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: I think you can make a strong argument it's the

1596
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 4: best football week week I'll say week of the year.

1597
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 4: Again the Oregon note from yesterday. They will be without

1598
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: Jordan Davidson, their big power back. He actually was a

1599
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 4: leading rusher against Indiana earlier in the season. He's got

1600
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 4: fifteen touchdowns on the year, so that has been notable

1601
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: injury for them, exiting their win in the Orange Bowl.

1602
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports

1603
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: right now. Coming up at a minute, we'll talk a

1604
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: little bit more about the Pacers, and they're Diliman right now,

1605
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: take some of your feedback on the cults and what

1606
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: you're feeling and seeing and thinking after all of the

1607
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: events in the last thirty six hours. You can text

1608
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: us at two three nine ten seventy call us up

1609
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: to three nine ten seventy as well. We'll right here

1610
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five.

1611
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 4: I think he gets off to what he's doing down there.

1612
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show. James

1613
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: Boyd say it again, sports writer of the Year in

1614
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: the state of Indiana. How about that?

1615
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 3: How about it? Shout out to the people who voted

1616
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: for me. I love you.

1617
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,919
Speaker 2: Do you think Stephen Holder voted for you?

1618
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 7: No?

1619
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: He demanded a recount. I told him was too late, brother,

1620
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: Although we didn't make media rising of all media, Rick Carlo,

1621
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 3: but we didn't make the joke that there might be

1622
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 3: a recount because in the graphic they put the wrong state.

1623
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: Was that Mississippi? Mississippi? Yeah, I got.

1624
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Clarion Ledger Charlie weis Junior's status right now?

1625
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: Sec jokes, but I promise I do believe I work

1626
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: in the state of Indiana.

1627
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: Kevin Josh writes in to be honest, guys, I would

1628
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: seriously consider taking a flyer on Kyler Murray if he

1629
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: becomes available over bringing Jones back off the Achilles. That

1630
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: injury just takes so long to get fully one hundred

1631
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: percent back from. That's Josh, your thoughts on that.

1632
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, not a big Kyler guy. I get the.

1633
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 2: Hell No, he's just as much of an injury history too.

1634
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah it certainly his injury history is definitely no clean

1635
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 4: bill of health. Uh yeah, no thanks. I get the

1636
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 4: questions about Daniel Jones, and obviously I'm very curious to

1637
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 4: see the length on the Daniel Jones contract, But no,

1638
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 4: thank you. On Kyler.

1639
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 3: He had to have initially a video game clause in

1640
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: his contract, and the thought of pairing that guy with

1641
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 3: Shane Stichen does not seem.

1642
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 4: Shane'll be right there for Blitz meetings. So I got

1643
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 4: to wrap up this call of duty session just be

1644
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 4: terrible call of duty.

1645
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 3: I think it probably is. I think all the things

1646
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: that we think are no longer things just get repurposed

1647
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: and put back out there. We just don't know about

1648
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 3: it because we're out of that stage of our life.

1649
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 6: Speaking of for ree purpose thing that's every November, it

1650
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 6: comes in. It is like it's like an nannial mandel,

1651
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 6: like a new ndition of matt and that comes out.

1652
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 4: Speaking of repurpose, was that letter from their say Daughter's

1653
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: repurpose yesterday from the previous five years or was there

1654
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 4: substance in there that was different?

1655
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: Substance in there was certainly different because they went into

1656
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 3: specific team decisions. I thought that was different from the

1657
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: last letter, which stayed true to just bringing the guys back.

1658
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 3: And from that perspective, Kevin, why do you think number one,

1659
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: the letter was released a day after having a press conference.

1660
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 3: And two was there any again specific things that stood

1661
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 3: out to you? Because for me, addressing specific I'm sorry

1662
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 3: moves that they made was a unique thing that a

1663
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 3: unique thing that teams usually don't do.

1664
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know again, I know you and I disagree

1665
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: on this. I was fine with the letter, Like, I

1666
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 4: don't know. People have asked me, hey, was this because

1667
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 4: they heard so much backlash from the press conference. I

1668
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 4: don't know if that was it.

1669
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think that is a thing, Like

1670
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: do you think that comes out without what happened? I

1671
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: don't Monday.

1672
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 4: I mean, is everybody watching the press conference, I mean

1673
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: they get that, our audience is probably watching it, but

1674
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: like there's there's a lot more people on social media

1675
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 4: than I think probably viewed the press conference, right, I mean,

1676
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 4: how many millions of followers do.

1677
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: They have on in Yeah, So.

1678
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 4: I guess what was different again, it was probably just

1679
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 4: further clarification on the press conference. You know, she mentioned

1680
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 4: or they mentioned I guess because all three daughters signed it.

1681
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 4: They mentioned the difference in the free agency approach. They

1682
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 4: mentioned indirectly. Daniel Jones was mentioned. Yeah, probably more than

1683
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 4: he was in the press conference. I mean, you asked

1684
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 4: specifically about Daniel Jones, and I don't think that got

1685
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 4: a direct answer. The historic start was acknowledged that the

1686
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 4: trade for Sauce Gardner was acknowledged, which I think at

1687
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 4: some point we got to get into a bigger conversation there.

1688
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 4: It almost seemed like the attempt of the trade was enough.

1689
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 4: It was like, Yep, you tried, you sent those two

1690
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 4: first round picks. That means you're back.

1691
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 2: And the paying of big time free agents before the

1692
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 2: season started.

1693
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 4: Too, right, But I think that might have been the

1694
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 4: cherry on top. Honestly, when you consider the historic start

1695
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 4: and then you consider that now you know there was

1696
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 4: a comment in there about how successful the draft was. Boy,

1697
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: we're putting a lot of eggs in the Tyler Warren basket.

1698
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 4: And then I would also say, well, have you not

1699
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 4: paid attention to recent drafts and the fourth overall pick

1700
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 4: and what that is going to lead to the ultimate

1701
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 4: result there. So again I'll go back to what I

1702
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 4: said to lead off the show. If you feel the need,

1703
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: if you have to keep on writing these letters and

1704
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 4: slightly change the tone and the words of it, it

1705
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 4: probably tells you everything you need to know about the

1706
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 4: lack of moves that you're making to substantially change the

1707
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 4: direction of your franchise. That's the bigger issue for me.

1708
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 4: I'm all for ownership across every sport being more forthcoming.

1709
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 4: There are several NFL teams out there, I think the

1710
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: one in Cincinnati being one of them, James Whore. They

1711
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 4: hardly hear from their owners ever. I mean, you covered

1712
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 4: the Pacers. How many times? Is herb Simon Chadden over

1713
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 4: the years?

1714
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 3: Doesn't the last time he spoke was in like that

1715
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: little media scrum he did. I can't even call it

1716
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 3: a scrimbles.

1717
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 4: I call it a little team. I like my nice

1718
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 4: little chan.

1719
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 3: I remember I covered a Bucks game in Milwaukee that

1720
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 3: night and they got blinched without Yiannis and without Chris

1721
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 3: Middleton at the time, and he blew it up a

1722
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 3: couple months later.

1723
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I generally do appreciate, you know, the time

1724
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 4: and the investment money mainly, but certainly time as well

1725
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 4: that fans put into it. I don't caring from those

1726
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 4: people the powers that be is important. I get that

1727
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 4: the words are frustrating. I totally understand that I have to.

1728
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 3: Bring up the Pacers. I'm like, look, they went and

1729
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 3: got tiers Halliburton. Well, sure they are loved right now.

1730
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that just because you speak, you should

1731
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 4: be loved. Let me be abundantly clear on that.

1732
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 3: I didn't have to say anything when you brought in

1733
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 3: mister Halliburton.

1734
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 4: I think I've made my piece known on the on

1735
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: the situation. But yeah, I guess you know one thing

1736
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 4: that was in there is you know, we believe we

1737
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 4: can compete for the division and a playoff berth next season. Well,

1738
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Speaker 4: I don't know. Compete maybe isn't the word that I

1739
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 4: would find as a ringing.

1740
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: So you like this, You think the second half of

1741
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: the year is much more indicative of who they are

1742
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: than the first half of the year.

1743
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think that a year should have been factored

1744
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 4: in and not ignored them to.

1745
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 6: They look at the strength of schedule. Two we said

1746
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 6: make hay in the first half because look at the

1747
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 6: second half schedule and again they stepped up in class.

1748
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 4: They never wanted to ignore the first half of the season.

1749
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 4: They did some very historic things. They beat the breaks

1750
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: off of many teams that we don't see in the NFL.

1751
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 4: But at the same time, let's look at the entire

1752
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 4: season A and let's also look at the eight years

1753
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: prior to that. Rain Shane Steichen's case, the first couple

1754
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: of seasons, the seven and twenty two record against teams

1755
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: above five hundred. Didn't all happen this year, you know

1756
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 4: there are other years that go into that, And I

1757
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 4: do think it's a very real question. If you just

1758
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 4: balanced the season out more, pick the fifty to fifty games,

1759
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: If you took Chiefs Seahawks from the back half of

1760
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:53,440
Speaker 4: the season, call those wins. If you take Cardinals Broncos

1761
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 4: from the first half of the season, call those losses.

1762
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 4: So now eight and two becomes six and four. Are

1763
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 4: you still trading for Carter is Carli Rosa, Gordon that

1764
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 4: blown away by the first two months of the season.

1765
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 4: Are we sitting here with changes?

1766
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: I think it was the fact from their perspective, And

1767
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: you talked about this yesterday, James, how historic offensively the

1768
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,839
Speaker 1: Colts were, regardless of the opponent in those first eight games,

1769
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: they were just scoring on every single drive.

1770
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 3: It seemed like, yeah, man, can you replicate that? Can

1771
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 3: you bring that back? And then can you tweet your

1772
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 3: roster enough to not only get back to that level,

1773
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: but be better and sustain it for a longer period

1774
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 3: of time. I think they're obviously banking on injury luck

1775
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 3: being better, and to be honest, boy, there's injuries in

1776
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: the NFL. Then there's what happened to the Colts, where

1777
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 3: pretty much every important player felt like was sidelined for

1778
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 3: multiple games. But then, to the point we made earlier

1779
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 3: in the show, how do you get better defensively with

1780
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: this aging defensive cores? In particular, how does the various

1781
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: ward retirement not retirement thing factor into any decisions you

1782
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 3: make in your defensive secondary Because he was supposed to

1783
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 3: be a big part of the sauce trade as well.

1784
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 3: Now I know the sauce trade was made separately, but

1785
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 3: the idea was to pair both cornerbacks together and just

1786
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 3: lock people down, and obviously that would help your pass

1787
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: rush and the rest of your defense. There are things

1788
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 3: in ways that we can certainly get into the next

1789
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: couple days. And I think I've talked to Chris Ballard

1790
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: as well about how they can get better from a

1791
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 3: roster standpoint, even without a first round pick. But a

1792
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 3: lot of it I think comes back to just hoping

1793
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 3: you're healthier.

1794
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to that point in what we've been talking

1795
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: about justin wrights In and I think you've vessed this before,

1796
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: Kevin on Thursday, ask Ballard, should you get another chance?

1797
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: Do you deserve it?

1798
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: With all the money you're getting paid to deliver results,

1799
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 1: would you give yourself another chance? You asked him a

1800
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: version of that exact question last year at the combine, Kevin,

1801
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: didn't you.

1802
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's it's gotten very redundant with the

1803
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 4: questions that are asked of him. So yeah, I have

1804
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 4: said this before, the Michael Jordan GM comparison. I think

1805
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 4: the only Michael Jordan comparison I would make for Chris

1806
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 4: Baward is the type of acting he can play in

1807
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:11,759
Speaker 4: those settings tomorrow.

1808
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to go the Michael Jordan

1809
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 3: in the front office when he drafted like Kwame Brown

1810
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 3: didn't work out there.

1811
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be clear that Michael Jordan as a player

1812
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 4: I think was who Jim Mersey was referencing back in

1813
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: the day.

1814
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 3: But trying to todd all together.

1815
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Valad will be tomorrow, He'll be

1816
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 4: emotional and he'll be you know, he'll cuss and he'll

1817
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 4: he'll he'll be pissed. He'll be pissed.

1818
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: Will he be pissed out of me?

1819
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 8: For years?

1820
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 4: One more time?

1821
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 7: Mark?

1822
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 4: What was that kicking it out of me for years?

1823
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 8: Well?

1824
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: I think he should open the press conference by telling

1825
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: Kevin that he got the wide receivers right. Take that,

1826
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce.

1827
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 4: We have that audio. Morek about the white outs.

1828
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: Kevin freaking Bowen.

1829
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 4: It's about time he listened.

1830
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 3: They're young, but I do think we're really skilled.

1831
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 4: I mean, Bowen ought at least be freaking happy for once.

1832
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 8: I mean, got heard about beat over the head with

1833
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 8: wideouts forever.

1834
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 4: Should we now shift the defensive line.

1835
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 2: Yes, defensive end to specifically.

1836
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: I do think that's a question. But people get asking me, hey,

1837
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 3: can you throw this question at him? Can you do this?

1838
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 3: And the do you deserve another year? Question?

1839
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 4: And it's a fair question. But also.

1840
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: You're not going to get a real answer from that.

1841
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: I mean, what would any of us say if we

1842
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: had a good job, we got kept around for that

1843
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: good job after not delivering, you fired me. I don't know.

1844
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 4: He had a quote to Jordan Roderigue and the athletic

1845
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 4: James that I did find interesting. Jeff, your pointing your

1846
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 4: finger out.

1847
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 2: I think I know where you're heading on this.

1848
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't have the direct quote. I wish I did,

1849
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 4: but he said something to the effect James of like Jim,

1850
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 4: Jim has kept me even though he probably should have

1851
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 4: gotten rid of me. I'm paraphrasing. I want to be

1852
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: very clear, but I'll look it up real quick. Yeah,

1853
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 4: feel free to save me from my fumbling here. But yeah,

1854
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 4: that quote certainly sounded different than what I mean he

1855
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 4: I guess he said something to that effect last year, frankly,

1856
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 4: when we chatted with him at the Combine, but that

1857
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 4: was a little bit more of the direct nature to it,

1858
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 4: you know. I think when we asked him that at

1859
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: the Combine last year, he pretty much shared the story

1860
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 4: of Hey. Back in twenty twenty three, after the Jeff

1861
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 4: Saturday Frank Reich Matt Ryan debacle, we said, all right,

1862
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 4: we're going to reset. Here comes a first time head coach.

1863
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 4: We're going to draft Richard sent it fourth overall, blah

1864
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 4: blah blah, and we're going to open up this new

1865
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 4: window of patients, et cetera, et cetera. And now I

1866
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 4: guess that has played out, but yet we're still going

1867
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 4: to employ him moving forward. So yeah, uh yeah.

1868
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see if he's pissed like Carly's pissed.

1869
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 3: Here we go from and this might be a different

1870
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: quote than you're referencing Kevin. Here's one where at the

1871
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,640
Speaker 3: end of this story from Jordan Rodrieg, who talked to

1872
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 3: Chris bow a couple months ago. I think at this

1873
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 3: point I thought.

1874
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 4: It was early December.

1875
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he says I'm grateful for him in reference

1876
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 3: to Jim ursay he probably no, I'm sorry. Let me

1877
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 3: back up. I'm grateful for him. He believed in me

1878
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: and probably stuck with me when he shouldn't have.

1879
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: There you go, that's the quote I thought you were read.

1880
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, so at least he's aware of what the

1881
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: situation is.

1882
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 4: I'll go back to what I said on Monday to

1883
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 4: lead off the show. Folks, New Year's Resolutions are bound.

1884
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 4: You've never seen LA fitnesses so packed when you drive

1885
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 4: by him. Boy, the goal in twenty twenty six find

1886
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 4: you a boss that's got a leash as long as

1887
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 4: Chris Ballard and Jeff I'm looking right at your brother.

1888
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: Your leash is fine.

1889
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 4: I need it to be longer. I need it to

1890
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 4: be Ellie daylor Cruz size.

1891
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 3: Brother.

1892
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 6: Kevin wants to be able to run across the parking

1893
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 6: lot into the highway right now, that's how long that lead?

1894
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, get me all the way to the sixty five

1895
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 4: to seventy split, right Mark, I could run path cluster truck,

1896
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 4: Big Fan, by the way, Oh we got that yesterday.

1897
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 4: I need to that's your promo code, Big Fan, five

1898
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 4: dollars off.

1899
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: I never got a chance yesterday because we were so

1900
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: busy doing a bunch of stuff here. But man, Evan,

1901
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: if you're listening, I owe you a text that was

1902
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: that that salad was fantastic yesterday.

1903
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: The apple wood smoked bacon chicken salad.

1904
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 4: The leash as long as the Llie Daily Cruz bobble headline,

1905
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: right Marko.

1906
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: Brother can change at anytime, though, guys, for all of

1907
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 1: us is what that line is doing.

1908
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 6: That's concerning what.

1909
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Might they be doing. Did Kevin have an insight on

1910
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: that earlier today?

1911
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 6: Or I can't say that again?

1912
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 3: All right?

1913
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we will talk a little

1914
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: bit more about what's ahead for the Indiana Ooziers coming

1915
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: up on just over two days away from a huge

1916
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: college football game.

1917
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 2: I think we all know that. We'll talk about it

1918
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: next ninety three five and one was seven fan.

1919
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 4: All right, John Herrick, I you sidelines pregame halftime, you'll

1920
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 4: hear him and Fish coming up on Friday. I think

1921
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 4: Don Fisher is going to try to make it back

1922
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 4: in time for you Nebraska.

1923
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 2: That's a big game.

1924
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 4: Nebraska's had a great start to this season and that

1925
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 4: is on Saturday there, but all eyes will be on

1926
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 4: the Peach Bowl coming up. John Harrick going to join

1927
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 4: us at the top of the hour, will get his

1928
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 4: Rose Bull thoughts. Jeff I meant to ask you, is

1929
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 4: there anything Scott Dolson wise that stood out from when

1930
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 4: he joined us earlier in the week.

1931
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Just the fact that it seemed clear to him, even

1932
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: after the initial meeting, that Kurt Signetti was different. And

1933
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know a lot of people will go

1934
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: into their interviews and they all say the same thing.

1935
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 1: They talk about their organization, they talk about how they're

1936
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: doing this or doing that.

1937
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes it just resonates in a different way.

1938
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: And Scott Dolson said, I asked him, when did you

1939
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: know that Kurt Signetti was different? And he basically told

1940
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: us James pretty much right after the first interview. He's like, man,

1941
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: this guy's onto something. And again, what's interesting to me

1942
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: is you hear that from a lot of people in interviews.

1943
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 1: You know, I've done a million interviews on both sides

1944
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: of the of the hiring process over the years, everybody

1945
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: kind of knows what to say. Everyone knows, you know,

1946
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 1: the expectation, things like that. But it's rare when somebody

1947
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: like halfway through the interview. And honestly, Kevin, you were

1948
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 1: like this when I first interviewed you, like I knew.

1949
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: I knew after ten minutes.

1950
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: It's true, I've told you that. Have I not told

1951
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: you that before?

1952
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:11,919
Speaker 3: Program Changers?

1953
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: But my point, my point.

1954
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 4: Being is Signette heard this right now you asked me.

1955
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: That's the motivation he might need to get it done

1956
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Speaker 4: even more on Friday.

1957
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Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing I took away from that is

1958
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 1: that he, in the course of that conversation felt this

1959
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 1: guy's different.

1960
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 4: Well, James, and I know you were busy with locker

1961
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 4: room clean out, but a story long you got it.

1962
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 4: A story that he told was they get on the

1963
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 4: plane from JMU to come here for the introductory press conference,

1964
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 4: and he said that Signette had old school paper and

1965
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 4: you know, pen with him and on the list he

1966
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 4: had was he wanted to get the previous coaching staff,

1967
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 4: the Tom Allen coaching staff, to provide him with individual

1968
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 4: lists ranking the current roster from one to fifty, So

1969
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 4: you rank how good you know, you think the roster is.

1970
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 4: This is my assumption here. My assumption is Kurt Signetti

1971
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 4: probably wasn't planning to keep many of those individuals, but

1972
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 4: he realizes that they obviously have good intel on the

1973
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 4: current roster. Kurt Signetti was about to flip that roster

1974
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 4: over rather significantly, but he realized Carter Smith, Omar Cooper Junior,

1975
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 4: you know, some of these guys are pretty good football

1976
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 4: players that you want to keep around. And so you know,

1977
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 4: that to me is you know, in a way, I

1978
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 4: guess you're kind of kicking the guys as I walk

1979
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 4: up the door. But that's business. And I think that

1980
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 4: is just a really you know, it's kind of a

1981
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 4: savvy move, if you will, and it helps you get

1982
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 4: a little bit of a head start, you know, dissecting

1983
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 4: all this film on the current roster in the era

1984
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 4: of the portal is very difficult to then evaluate your

1985
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 4: own roster and then flip that around and ad players

1986
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 4: like he did. So I just think that's kind of

1987
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 4: a little anecdote that shows you Signette is very forward thinking.

1988
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I can see now when he talks to

1989
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,799
Speaker 1: recruits when he brings him in that bite you played earlier.

1990
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: For those who missed it, Mark, can we get that

1991
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: Kurtzing nutty bite that we played in the last hour

1992
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 1: for those that are the eight o'clock hours here on.

1993
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 2: Their way to work right now.

1994
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: Like it's about efficiency, It's about getting done what you

1995
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: need to get done to your standard. Whether it takes

1996
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 1: all day or whether it takes forty five minutes is

1997
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: kind of how I read this.

1998
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: Listen to it yourself.

1999
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: I was growing up.

2000
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 8: I didn't like when people wasted my time, and I

2001
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 8: don't want to I don't want to waste the player's time,

2002
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 8: and I don't want to waste the coach's time, and

2003
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 8: I don't make the coaches stay at night. Maybe that's

2004
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 8: why go guys been with me so long, all right?

2005
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 8: And we started seven seven thirty in the morning like

2006
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 8: everybody else, and you stay till your work's done. And

2007
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 8: I'm not checking to see who's there and who isn't right,

2008
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 8: But I can tell you one thing. When we'ren't at office,

2009
01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 8: it's all business, you know, it is all business. It's

2010
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 8: organized preparation. And we're on that practice field. Look Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday,

2011
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 8: our thirty five to an hour forty five, Our thirty

2012
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 8: five to an hour.

2013
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 2: Forty five Monday.

2014
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 8: Walk through, Friday shorter walkthrough. I believe in keeping them

2015
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 8: fresh and healthy, and our players like the way we

2016
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 8: run the program. We've had a great culture for the

2017
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 8: last eight to ten years downstairs, you know. And you

2018
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 8: can't put a value on a great culture. Now. Winning helps,

2019
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 8: no doubt, but the right kind of people believe in

2020
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 8: in your process, your blueprint, your plan helps too.

2021
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Think about all that.

2022
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 1: You're now twenty five and two at Indiana, You're playing

2023
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: in the College Football Playoff. You just beat out of

2024
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Oabama up and down the field, and you tell that

2025
01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: to a recruit about how things are going to go

2026
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: once you get here, and you throw it on top

2027
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: of that the very important aspect that you pointed out earlier, Kevin,

2028
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Indiana can play financially with anybody at this point in time.

2029
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: That's a really good recipe for long term success right there.

2030
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 4: Well, and we've talked about this, James. I remember, I

2031
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 4: think it was you and I when the Brian Haynes,

2032
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 4: the defensive coordinator FRYU re upped his contract to stay there.

2033
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 4: I think We did the show right after that, and that,

2034
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: to me is one of the more not talked enough

2035
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 4: about headlines of what Kurt Skenetty is doing. It's that

2036
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 4: if you look at staff retention, you know, when you

2037
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 4: think about it, these surprise teams, these teams that get

2038
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 4: on a run, we see it all over the place.

2039
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 4: When they reach as big of a peak as Indiana has,

2040
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 4: the coordinators get jobs elsewhere, they are coveted, they are

2041
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 4: likely to move on. And now it's and we see

2042
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 4: its across all sports. Dan Campbell with the Line is

2043
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 4: one that had to deal with it this past year.

2044
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,839
Speaker 4: And yet Indiana has retained Mike Shanahan and Brian Haynes.

2045
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 4: And yet their opponent on Friday Night in Oregon, their

2046
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 4: OC is the new head coach of Kentucky. Their DC

2047
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 4: is new head coach at cal In amidst all this

2048
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: portal chaos. Kentucky for example, they just got Notre Dame's

2049
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 4: backup quarterback to flip from Nebraska where he was committed

2050
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 4: to start the portal now to Kentucky. You don't think

2051
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 4: will Stein, the OC at Kentucky, or now I should say,

2052
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 4: the head coach of Kentucky the oc at Oregon has

2053
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 4: been dealing with a lot of that drama in the

2054
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 4: past forty eight hours. What's Brian Haynes doing watching Duck

2055
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 4: film endlessly while this dude has to be worried about

2056
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 4: his new football team, the job he's about to take.

2057
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 4: I think that is massive advantage to Indiana. Massive question

2058
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 4: for you.

2059
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 3: Do you think the personal relationships, Well, I know they

2060
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 3: factor into it. How much do you think they factor

2061
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 3: into the retention? Because these are guys he's known for

2062
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 3: so long as well higher to them as like intern right,

2063
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 3: I up, So we're talking about a decade.

2064
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 4: I mean it matters. Yeah, I want to point that out.

2065
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 4: But you know, in this business, you know, personal.

2066
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 3: Relationships, he changed a lot of things, right right.

2067
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 4: You know there are some members on the you know,

2068
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman's staff at Notre Dame that were in his

2069
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 4: wedding that left to go to USC like there are

2070
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 4: you know, at the end of the day, money talks,

2071
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 4: opportunity talks, and sure, I think it's an element, but

2072
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 4: that financial backing and you know, again, Signetty has always

2073
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 4: been very cognizant of that since day one of I

2074
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 4: think when he talks about Pam Winton Scott Dolson's commitment

2075
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 4: to football assistant coaching. Pool money is also a big,

2076
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:42,839
Speaker 4: big part.

2077
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Of that all right.

2078
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 1: Coming up in a moment, we'll find out more about

2079
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Indiana getting rid of the play Oregon for a second time.

2080
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Part of the broadcast and a team member here at

2081
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one of something five the Fan.

2082
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: John Herrick will join us in a moment on ninety

2083
01:34:54,040 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: three five and one seven the Fan. They seized a

2084
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: fan morning show with kb JB and Jeff Third down

2085
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: and eight, Kaylon Black is back in the light up.

2086
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 5: Here's a step back to Fernando has time rowing over

2087
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 5: the middle.

2088
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 4: He's got.

2089
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 2: Indiana legend.

2090
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 8: Don I Fush has been documenting Indiana sports, more big

2091
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 8: moments at basketball than football, frankly, for more than a

2092
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 8: half century.

2093
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 10: Un Mario and of course most of his calls, it's

2094
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 10: legendary calls go back to IU hoops.

2095
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,480
Speaker 2: But how much is he enjoying.

2096
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 10: This football program and where they have been able to

2097
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,959
Speaker 10: blossom here these last couple of years with Kurt Signetti,

2098
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:43,520
Speaker 10: so many big moments.

2099
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: Don Fisher, Kirk, Kirbstreet, you name it.

2100
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about the Indiana Hoosiers, and they are on

2101
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: a heater, undefeated so far this year and getting rid

2102
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: of to playing in the college football semi.

2103
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: Finals on Friday night. And I can't.

2104
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 1: Certainly, since I've been here for the last thirteen years,

2105
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: I've never been more excited about a college football game

2106
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 1: for Indiana since I've been here.

2107
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: And I said that a week ago. James just keeps

2108
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 2: getting better and better.

2109
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 3: We are living a charmed life when we're watching and

2110
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 3: following this.

2111
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 7: Kevin.

2112
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: I know I've asked you this question before, but I

2113
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: just don't get tired of hearing the answer. It's like

2114
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 1: playing your favorite song you've lived in any end of

2115
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: your whole life, Like how much fun is this?

2116
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's incredible. I mean it's it's

2117
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 4: movie like you're excited.

2118
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: Feeli's nipples.

2119
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mark. Yeah, I just took the words right

2120
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 4: out of my mouth literally there, you know, I I

2121
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 4: think I've shared before. I married into a big IU family,

2122
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 4: and certainly a big IU football family. They're all heading

2123
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 4: down to the game on Friday, and yeah, just to

2124
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 4: see their joy and again something that you didn't expect,

2125
01:36:57,360 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: Like you know, again, I you basketball if they were

2126
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 4: to make a run. Maybe wouldn't be as you know

2127
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 4: it really is. It honestly kind of reminds me of

2128
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 4: the Butler Runs a little bit. Yeah. I don't know

2129
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 4: if it's exactly apples to apples comparing it, but that

2130
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 4: is kind of what it reminds me of.

2131
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.

2132
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: John Herrick is part of the broadcast team there and

2133
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 1: of course news director over at WIBC and a good

2134
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 1: friend of us here at the Fan and he joins

2135
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 1: us now on the Payless Liquors Hotline. John, I know

2136
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: you're an Indiana guy too and you're working on the broadcast,

2137
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: but I'll ask you the same question I never get

2138
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 1: tired of asking these last couple of weeks, how much

2139
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 1: fun are you having through this whole thing.

2140
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you guys played that clip of Don

2141
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 5: because I don't think there's anybody who is more deserving

2142
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 5: from an off the football field standpoint than Don Fisher.

2143
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember the first year on the network

2144
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 5: and IU went four and eight my first year when

2145
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 5: I was when I joined the team, and he I

2146
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 5: think he said something to me like, yeah, this has

2147
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 5: kind of been my life for almost half a lifetime

2148
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 5: watching a football team like that struggle so much secret

2149
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 5: Signetti come in here and inject so much passion and

2150
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 5: energy into the program, into the fan base. Uh to

2151
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 5: Don of course, and the rest of us. It's just

2152
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 5: been such a rewarding experience. And never did I think

2153
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 5: I'd see so many Who's your fans in California at

2154
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 5: the Rose Bowl to completely take that place over. So uh,

2155
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 5: what a what a job it was by that team

2156
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 5: to deal with that long layoff for almost a month

2157
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:31,679
Speaker 5: and basically put out a performance that was close to perfect.

2158
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 3: John, you touched on it right there, but can you

2159
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 3: expand a little bit on the experience of the Rose

2160
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 3: Bowl and how I you fan showed up for the

2161
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 3: moment of a lifetime, And as Jeff's pointed out throughout

2162
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 3: the show, those moments keep coming week after week.

2163
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we could feel like we got there

2164
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 5: for the for this Bowl. We left on Monday, and

2165
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 5: you know, I was out walking around the streets of

2166
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 5: California with my wife and we were doing a lot

2167
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 5: of different things throughout the week just to enjoy the

2168
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 5: moment too, along with getting ready for the game. And

2169
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 5: I just remember her and I looking at each other, going,

2170
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 5: I don't see a lot of Alabama people here, and

2171
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 5: she's like, yeah, I see all these Indiana people. I

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Speaker 5: don't see hardly any Alabama folks. But of course you're like,

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01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 5: how true is that going to be for the game,

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Speaker 5: And then you get to the game and you're like, wow,

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01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 5: I don't see any Alabama people.

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Speaker 7: So it's it was really it was.

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Speaker 5: Really something because you just knew that. It also helped

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01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:32,439
Speaker 5: too that Indiana fans got to go to the Rose

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01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 5: Bowl the previous year when they beat UCLA just in

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01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 5: a regular game, certainly not a bowl game or a

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01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 5: college football playoff game. But I think that gave fans

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01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,440
Speaker 5: like their first taste of man.

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01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 7: Coming to the Rose bowls really cool.

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Speaker 5: We'd love to come back. And then you get the

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01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 5: opportunity to come back the next year, and you just

2186
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 5: knew that they weren't going to not take advantage of it,

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01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 5: and boy did they really see the moment.

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Speaker 4: Okay, John Herrick, I you radio networking here in pregame

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01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 4: halftime with Don Fisher in company, not only football wise,

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Speaker 4: but also basketball. Will be a quick turnaround coming up

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Speaker 4: for that this weekend. John, Let's go back to the

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Speaker 4: Oregon game. Your memories from the first matchup between these

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Speaker 4: two teams, the good, the bad. Obviously a huge win

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Speaker 4: for Indiana out in Eugene.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the biggest thing was the start. I

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01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 5: think Indiana got a little behind the eight ball. They

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01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,799
Speaker 5: had one defensive breakdown, but then once they got settled

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01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 5: in and they took that lead right before half, you

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Speaker 5: could start to see that they were really starting to

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01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 5: feel everything go in their favor and they gained more confidence,

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Speaker 5: and they were up thirteen to ten and half. And

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Speaker 5: then Fernando Mendoza that throws to pick six and you

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01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 5: think to yourself, this is a moment where previous IU

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01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 5: football teams might not be able to respond or the

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01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 5: pressure might get to him.

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Speaker 7: And what's that guy do.

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01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 5: If he leads his team down the field, they score

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01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 5: a touchdown and they go on to win thirty to twenty.

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Speaker 7: And then the defense.

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Speaker 5: Had, like, eh, I can't remember what it was like,

2211
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 5: eight or nine tackles for loss. I mean, they just

2212
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 5: did not let up on that Oregon offense. And now,

2213
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 5: you know, looking at the first injury report, you know

2214
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 5: there's all these players on Oregon's roster that are going

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01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 5: to be out, one of them being Jordan Davidson, who

2216
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 5: averaged seven yards of carry against Indiana in the first meeting.

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01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 5: That's probably the biggest name that pops up to you.

2218
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 5: And there's no real surprises on the injury report for Indiana,

2219
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,839
Speaker 5: so it's going to be interesting to see how Oregon

2220
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 5: navigates that. I mean, they have a really good, really

2221
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 5: good athletic offensive line, a very capable quarterback in Dante

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01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,599
Speaker 5: More and if Indiana's not with it defensively, they could

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01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 5: be in some trouble. But they are a very athletic defense.

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01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 5: And I wrote about this guy last night over on

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01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 5: WIBC dot com. It's Elijah Hardy who is there leading.

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01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 5: He leads them in sacks, and he leads them in tackles,

2227
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 5: and he has made some incredibly athletic plays on the defense.

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01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 5: I know Aiden Fisher and Isaiah owned D'Angelo pons, those

2229
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,640
Speaker 5: guys get a lot of pub but Elijah Hardy's a

2230
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 5: guy on this Indiana defense that has really stepped up

2231
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,480
Speaker 5: to make life difficult for the opposition.

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Speaker 1: John Herrick Indiana broadcast team getting ready for the Peach

2233
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,560
Speaker 1: Bowl and a semi final playoff game for Indiana and

2234
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: Oregon coming up on Friday night. You were with the

2235
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: team when they only lost two games last year, and

2236
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: of course they lost their last one in the College

2237
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Football Playoff to Notre Dame. What is or feels different

2238
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: to you about this version of the Hoosiers as opposed

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01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: to last year.

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Speaker 5: I just think they're more They're just more pristine. They're

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01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 5: more precise, they're more detail oriented, and they have more talent.

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01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 5: I think Kurt Signetti said it before the start of

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01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,640
Speaker 5: this season when he was talking about the guys he

2244
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 5: brought in and the transfer portal a year ago. It's

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01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 5: funny to talk about what he did a year ago

2246
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 5: because if you guys have noticed, he's already cleaning up

2247
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 5: in the transfer portal getting ready for next year's team.

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01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 5: But he said, we need more dogs, we need more horses.

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01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 5: We didn't have enough. He made too many mistakes in

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Speaker 5: the key moments against Notre Dame in Ohio State, and

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01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 5: all of that is really paying dividends. And I think

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01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 5: there's two things about this team that makes it so

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01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 5: impressive and gives them a chance, I think, to win

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01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 5: the national championship. The first is they are the best

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Speaker 5: team in the country in turnover margin. They just simply

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01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 5: do not turn the ball over. And then they're the

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01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 5: best team in the country in third down conversion rate,

2258
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 5: which are two very important stats. You obviously need to

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01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 5: move the chains on third down and you can't give

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Speaker 5: the ball to the other team, and Indiana does those

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01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 5: two things better than anybody else in the country to

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01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 5: this point.

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Speaker 3: One more for me, John, when you look at Fernanda

2264
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 3: Mendoz and how you're soaking all this in. I know

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01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 3: we make a lot of jokes about the quirky personality,

2266
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,600
Speaker 3: but how dow Den do you think he is for

2267
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 3: these moments and how much confidence do you think the

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 3: team draws from having the Heisman Trophy winner on their

2269
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 3: side of things.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a great point of games. I mean, he's

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01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 5: somebody that I when I listened to him talk, I

2272
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 5: learned more about football just by listening to him, because

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01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 5: he will talk about, well, if the defense runs cover three,

2274
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 5: this is.

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Speaker 7: What we're gonna do.

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01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 5: If they blitz, this is what we need to do.

2277
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 5: Early in the season, I think the numbers showed that

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01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 5: Fernando Mindoza was not as good against coverage and a

2279
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 5: little bit better against the blitz. But now he's great

2280
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 5: against everything because he can he can read coverages so

2281
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 5: well and if you put pressure on him, he knows

2282
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 5: where to find the weak spot in the defense. We

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01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 5: thought we saw that on the Omar Cooper touchdown against

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01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:39,520
Speaker 5: Penn State. Several throws he made like that against Alabama,

2285
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 5: just finding the open guys, just the way he spreads

2286
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 5: the ball around, right, it's not just one guy, it's

2287
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 5: you know, he threw touchdown passes to Omar Cooper, you know,

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01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 5: Elijah Surratt and Charlie Becker, you know, in that game

2289
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 5: against Alabama. That just shows you how versatile he is.

2290
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 5: And so he just knows how to beat almost I

2291
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 5: think it looks like he can beat any defense because

2292
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 5: he's been able to study everything so well and learn

2293
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 5: from it. And he said, coming into this year, you know,

2294
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,839
Speaker 5: my brother Alberta Mendoza was telling me what a great

2295
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 5: group of coaches Indiana has and how they're helping them

2296
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 5: develop quarterbacks. It's like, Fernando, you need to get here.

2297
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 5: And Fernando is like, well, I can't not listen to

2298
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 5: my brother. I got to get here, and he did,

2299
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 5: and in the spring he kind of had a little

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01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,520
Speaker 5: more happy feet when pressure.

2301
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 6: Was on him.

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Speaker 5: But then as the season has gone on, man, he

2303
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 5: is just so calm and so poised under pressure and

2304
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 5: clearly was very deserving of winning the Heisman as he

2305
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 5: continues to show us, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, John, last one from me, and I know I

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01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 4: think you guys de part today for Atlanta. I mentioned

2308
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 4: it quick turnaround. If my math is right, this game

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01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,640
Speaker 4: is going to get over pretty close to midnight on Friday,

2310
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 4: twelve hours later, right is it? I you Nebraskan side

2311
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 4: of Assembly Hall? Are we good to go here? Do

2312
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 4: we need to call anybody in from the bullpen?

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01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 5: I think all right, Uh, it's gonna be a quick turnaround,

2314
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 5: quick flight after that, you know, I mean, I I

2315
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 5: don't I don't have any reason to doubt that Don

2316
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 5: Fisher will be ready. I mean, the man's iron man.

2317
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, if Indiana is able to

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01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 5: win this game against Oregon, and he's probably gonna be

2319
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 5: riding high on such adrenaline that you know, I think

2320
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 5: he gets a few hours to sleep, he'll be.

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Speaker 7: Good to go.

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01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 5: Same with me, and you know, we'll we'll we'll take

2323
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 5: a nap in the day later after the game is over.

2324
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 5: Because if you guys have noticed, man, I mean Nebraska

2325
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 5: just they refuse to lose in basketball, which is not

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01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 5: that surprising considering how good of a coach Fred Hoiberg

2327
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 5: is uh. And and that should be an outstanding matchup.

2328
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 5: And of course they have to play uh Maryland tonight too,

2329
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 5: So it's uh, we're in the gauntlet of the Big

2330
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 5: Ten slate and uh, Indiana basketball is gonna have a

2331
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 5: lot of work to do, but they got off to

2332
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 5: a great restart in Big Ten play with that important

2333
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 5: win over Washington at home. So this stretch of basketball

2334
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:02,480
Speaker 5: and Jaynuary is going to be pivotal for IU basketball

2335
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 5: as well as the rest of the Big Ten teams.

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Speaker 2: John, you are the news director at WIBC.

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01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: If you had to rank where the story of Indiana

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01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,799
Speaker 1: football in twenty twenty five is for all news stories

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01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 1: throughout Indiana, would it Would it be in the top five,

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01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: top three?

2341
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:17,839
Speaker 2: Uh?

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01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's number one, Jeff. And the reason

2343
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 5: why is because it's not just football that this run

2344
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 5: is making a difference on. It's the overall psyche of

2345
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 5: a lot of people in the States. The economic impact

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01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 5: of what Indiana football has meant to Bloomington and the

2347
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 5: surrounding areas.

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01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 7: I've talked to.

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01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 5: Some folks that visit Bloomington, the organization down there who uh,

2350
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 5: you know, relies on tourism and relies on people coming

2351
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 5: into too that city and and just see game days

2352
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 5: at home be totally packed and it's being tough to

2353
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 5: get out of Memorial Stadium and not run into traffic.

2354
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 5: That's actually a good problem to have if you're IU,

2355
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 5: because that means you've got to a lot of people

2356
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 5: coming to games. You've got a lot of people that

2357
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 5: are spending money on concessions and food and businesses in

2358
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 5: the area. It's made a massive difference. And I know

2359
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 5: people joke about, you know, well it.

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01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 7: Could be a movie.

2361
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 5: Well down the line, what if it is a movie,

2362
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 5: I mean, and if it is another movie about Hoosiers,

2363
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,600
Speaker 5: you know, thinking about the economic benefit that's going to

2364
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 5: have to Indiana as a state overall. So the run

2365
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 5: that this Indiana football team is certainly far reaching on

2366
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 5: many levels.

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01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:33,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for the time this morning, John, I know you

2368
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: got a busy week. Get to it, and we look.

2369
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 1: Forward to hearing you and Don and everybody else on

2370
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: the broadcast Friday night. Is Indiana tries to advance to

2371
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: the National Title Game.

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01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 9: Thanks Buddy, all right, thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks John John Herrick.

2374
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 1: I wanted to get his insight as a news guy

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01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 1: on just how big this story is because I still

2376
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: don't think that we truly realize, even outside of sports,

2377
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 1: what a huge impact this team, this this this story

2378
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: has had on all of Central Indiana.

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01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 4: Bigger than the Butler back to back.

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01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 1: Again, I don't know that you're comparing apples to apples

2381
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:13,679
Speaker 1: in that situation. Brad Stevens comes in and he does

2382
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 1: take a program to the highest of highs, and they

2383
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: haven't returned to that since he left, So I see

2384
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 1: the comparison. This just feels different. I don't know why,

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01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: and that felt really good to watch Butler do what

2386
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: they did too.

2387
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys have seen. Have you guys seen

2388
01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 4: Mark probably has known him. Have you guys seen some

2389
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 4: of these Kurtzignetti memes to hit the reaction of him

2390
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 4: on the fourth and one play against Alabama, Some of

2391
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 4: these are just exceptional. I guess to refresh everybody's memory

2392
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 4: on this. This is the fourth and one play where

2393
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 4: Kaylin de Boord did the Ty Simpson was what like

2394
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 4: the upman on the punt or like, yeah, the punt

2395
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 4: unit out there, he was out, then he takes the

2396
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 4: time out. Then they go for it. They run whatever

2397
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 4: it was, the jet sweep or something, and it gets

2398
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 4: blown up and signetti. Basically is like inspecting the play

2399
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 4: like none other. One of my favorites Mark, and I'm

2400
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 4: sure you'll be here at some point, was this is

2401
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 4: me when my kids take my car out the night

2402
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 4: before and they bring it in and specting the car

2403
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 4: the next morning. I thought that was one of the

2404
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 4: really good ones there.

2405
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 6: I feel like it's every time I explain a parlay

2406
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 6: to Ashley and she's like, so, how many legs do

2407
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 6: you need to hit for this to happen. I'm like,

2408
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 6: it's like three more.

2409
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, the longer you talk, the worst it sounds.

2410
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 2: You could make fun of him.

2411
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 1: I still remember during COVID, when there was nothing to

2412
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: bet on, Mark just started randomly betting on soccer games.

2413
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: He did like a thirteen leg parlay, knowing nothing about

2414
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: what he was betting on. And yeah, I think you

2415
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 1: won like a year's supply at diapers or something. Didn't

2416
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 1: you like five or six hundred bucks?

2417
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:44,639
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2418
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 9: It wasn't.

2419
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 6: It was like four legs. But yeah, that was basically

2420
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 6: the gist of it.

2421
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 1: I just remember it was a lot of legs for

2422
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 1: a guy that didn't know anything about what he was

2423
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: betting on.

2424
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 3: Mark called at number.

2425
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of telling your wife something and

2426
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 4: her reaction, I showed Maddie the Micah Shrewsbury clip once

2427
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 4: I'd calmed down a bit Saturday morning. Her response quite something.

2428
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 6: Were you like, I need I need a little bit

2429
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:12,440
Speaker 6: more from you, Maddie.

2430
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 4: Just a little more, for a little bit more, I

2431
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:15,679
Speaker 4: think a little bit more.

2432
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 1: As husband's Mark, I think you and I can identify

2433
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:18,879
Speaker 1: with that scenario.

2434
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 3: Yep, do you agree with that? The reaction?

2435
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 4: So Friday night we do staycation the bones drury in, Mark,

2436
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 4: I have you ever done this?

2437
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 6: Have I stated the dry in or done a staycation?

2438
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 7: Well?

2439
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 4: I guess yeah either, but yes, yes, yes, great great

2440
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 4: spot right there in ninety six Meridian. Nice indoor pool.

2441
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 4: They have one of the pools where you can swim

2442
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:38,440
Speaker 4: from outside.

2443
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's right there by the highway. You can exchange right.

2444
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 4: Right there, you know, And so you know, you got

2445
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 4: to get the kids out of the house, gotta get

2446
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,639
Speaker 4: Nelly out of the house. They loved it, great time.

2447
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 4: But you know, there I am in the hotel room,

2448
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 4: me and Max Bowe in the bed sleeping, and all

2449
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,240
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I realized, oh my gosh, it's eleven

2450
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,719
Speaker 4: o'clock and I can't fall asleep and Notre Dame's about

2451
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 4: to play. So I pop on the phone, pop in

2452
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 4: the air pod, and for two hours I sit there

2453
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 4: in bed and watch Notre Dame in California and the

2454
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 4: amount of highs I had throughout that game as oh

2455
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 4: my gosh, it looks like Notre Dame's about to get

2456
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 4: a true road quad one win. There'll be a California sweep.

2457
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 4: We know how hard it is, and went on the

2458
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 4: road in conference. This is huge, huge for the resume,

2459
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 4: and to watch the ending occur, I thought it was

2460
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 4: one of the worst calls I've ever seen in sports logan.

2461
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 4: I'm's try to foul that man three times coming up

2462
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 4: the floor?

2463
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 7: Uh?

2464
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 4: It clearly and NBA refs have even chimed in that

2465
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 4: man wasn't even getting into his shot when he fouled

2466
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 4: them the third time. You let the first two slide,

2467
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 4: but then you call the third one and you call

2468
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 4: it like it's a continuation. I thought it was horrific

2469
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 4: and frankly, Michael Shrewsbury, I really was hoping that those

2470
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 4: walk ons would not have stopped him and he could

2471
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 4: have gotten to that ref. And if he needs me

2472
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 4: to finish whatever he started three one, seven, four.

2473
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 2: But if he'd gotten to the ref, he might not

2474
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:51,759
Speaker 2: have been available for a while.

2475
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 4: That it was worth it.

2476
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 3: That was lost his mind. Truly, one of the worst

2477
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 3: calls I've ever seen. That was a valid crash out.

2478
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 4: As the kids say, can you imagine if that was

2479
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,600
Speaker 4: like a prominent college basketball game, like if that was

2480
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 4: not an eleven PM Friday night tip, if that was

2481
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 4: Duke Louisville last night at seven o'clock, or I you

2482
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 4: Purdue at some point here.

2483
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,600
Speaker 3: God forget, it's like the tournament or something. Yes, I

2484
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 3: completely agree. I saw the reaction before I saw the call.

2485
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,479
Speaker 3: The call is horrendous, and honestly, it calls into question

2486
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 3: all the fans who say, well, how does that ref

2487
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 3: get punished, because that dude who made that call should

2488
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 3: never ref at that level.

2489
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:30,720
Speaker 4: Again, I guess someone got that serious on that. That

2490
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 4: is that is horrible. That ref had a really bad

2491
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 4: call at the end of the Syracuse game. I guess

2492
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 4: earlier a few weeks back, play I just and look.

2493
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 4: I think the Shrewsbury reaction. He's a very emotional coach,

2494
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 4: first off, but I think the reaction is a little

2495
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 4: bit of the situation for Notre Dame right now. You've

2496
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 4: already lost to Purdue Fort Wayne. Shrewsburies in what year

2497
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 4: four year three are kind of forget at this point.

2498
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 4: But you know, there's talks about him being on the

2499
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:55,679
Speaker 4: hot seat. And like I said, that is a true

2500
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 4: road win. That'd been the third road win of the year,

2501
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 4: quad one win, and you get it ripped from you

2502
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 4: like that. You know. I guess I'm joking a little bit,

2503
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 4: but I really wish you would have found that.

2504
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: You had to almost wait a day. But did you

2505
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: see the opposite angle cell phone video of him.

2506
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 4: I've watched it. I've watched it all.

2507
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: What would have happened if his players hadn't stopped him, Yeah,

2508
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 1: because he.

2509
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 2: Was momently insane.

2510
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 4: It would have looked like Blake Groupy trying to make

2511
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 4: a tackle Sunday against the Texans.

2512
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 2: I give him credit, though he threw the shoulder in there.

2513
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 4: No I loved it.

2514
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 2: He tried.

2515
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 4: I loved it Shrewsbury, and I could not commend you

2516
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 4: more for that effort. That's what I want. I want

2517
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 4: passion out of my coach.

2518
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 6: But then you didn't get any sleep. Then you watch

2519
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 6: that game and then your mark threat.

2520
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 4: I was up till two thirty. I mean I were

2521
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 4: fired up, so freaking wired. I text my brother and

2522
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 4: he's a diehard. Not of course he was a sleepy

2523
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 4: I expected more out of him. I was so pissed.

2524
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 4: Oh you think you think Carl ers Gordon's pissed just

2525
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 4: seeing me at the Drury End floor two Friday night.

2526
01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 2: What do you think it?

2527
01:54:58,440 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 3: Actually?

2528
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:01,560
Speaker 4: Dorman through the breakfast buff the next morning, saying, let

2529
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 4: me get my biscuits and gravy.

2530
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 6: Bacon, christy enough for Kevin Bowen.

2531
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 4: That's my only knock on the druid morning bacon Mark

2532
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 4: in the morning, they didn't even have limp bacon. They

2533
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 4: had no bacon, which, honestly, no bacon is better than

2534
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 4: limp bacon. I will stand by that. You get your

2535
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 4: hopes up seeing the bacon, then you get there and

2536
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 4: it's limp. Imagine you talking about taking You're gonna get

2537
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 4: something and then it's limp tough boy.

2538
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 6: That could be interpret that one.

2539
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:29,959
Speaker 2: Mark, do you get the sense.

2540
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: That he's been sitting on this for like seventy two hours,

2541
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: just we got it.

2542
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 4: And now we got late a week, no name, it

2543
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 4: was like till Saturday. I'm so.

2544
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 3: I should probably check it down.

2545
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 2: You're pissed, Mike's pissed, Carly's.

2546
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: Pisted, Chris is gonna be pissed when he talks you

2547
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:44,879
Speaker 1: on Thursday.

2548
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 2: You pissed about anything?

2549
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 3: Joe? Uh, James, No, I'm winning in life.

2550
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's literally winning.

2551
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a rising king in the in media.

2552
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what these losers are talking about here.

2553
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 3: It's me and I you baby.

2554
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 2: Mark, let's check it down. What do you think it

2555
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 2: looks like, Kevin?

2556
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 1: When when Carly just truly loses her mind and really

2557
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 1: gets passed.

2558
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 2: I don't see her as someone being like way crazy.

2559
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 3: Quite the question.

2560
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't say that. I can't see you're like

2561
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:23,080
Speaker 4: ever crossed my mind?

2562
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:26,839
Speaker 1: Well, you set the stage for all of us there anyway,

2563
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 1: the Colts. They sit now and watch as the Jaguars

2564
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 1: will host the Bills in a playoff game. The Texans

2565
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 1: play at the Steelers and the NFL playoffs. The Tennessee

2566
01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Titans are looking for a brand new head coach and

2567
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: a reset, and the Colts are going to be running

2568
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 1: it back one more time. You spoke to players, you've

2569
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: heard from carly Ers, you've heard from fans. One of

2570
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: the next week ten days look like for the Colts,

2571
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 1: it's just time for the fans to kind of settle

2572
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: down a little bit.

2573
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 2: What do you think settle down? Oh? No, Oh, they're upset,

2574
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 2: they're mad.

2575
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 3: Talking to Chris Balor tomorrow at eleven am, we'll obviously

2576
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 3: bring the latest on that, and I'm sure Jake on

2577
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 3: his show and JAMV on his show will address it

2578
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 3: as well, So stay tuned for that. And then as

2579
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 3: far as the overall optics of everything, we'll build it up.

2580
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 3: The draft, the offseason, mini camp, all these things. But

2581
01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 3: nothing matters until you get to this point next year,

2582
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 3: and if you're not playing for something, if you're not

2583
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 3: playing in the Wildcar Week, and whatever the case may be,

2584
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 3: then I guess that's when we judge everything. But to

2585
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 3: say anything matters before then will be naive of me

2586
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 3: to put out there.

2587
01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: All right, we look forward to hearing from Chris Ballard

2588
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 1: later on this week. Meanwhile, in the NBA, the Pacers

2589
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: have lost a franchise record thirteen straight games. Last night

2590
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 1: won twenty to one sixteen, losing to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

2591
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 1: Darius Garland scored twenty nine points in the win for Cleveland.

2592
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam had twenty two for the Pacers, but Kevin

2593
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 1: they had a nine point lead the Pacers did entering

2594
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in that game last night.

2595
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 4: Thank you to the Texter here. My grandfather always told

2596
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:54,800
Speaker 4: me you rather be pissed off than pissed on.

2597
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 2: That's true.

2598
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 6: That's how I start my areer bar.

2599
01:57:58,120 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 4: Look at that.

2600
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 2: You could put that under your like your signature at

2601
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 2: the end of an email.

2602
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 4: Dyked in family oath right there, Mark, how about.

2603
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 6: That it's it's home, sweet home, and then it says

2604
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 6: that that's your back door, Matt, not your front door, Matt.

2605
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, PACER's ugly in the fourth quarter, and really ugly

2606
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 4: right out of the gate of the fourth quarter. I thought, honestly,

2607
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 4: one of the better probably what first thirty some minutes

2608
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 4: of the game all season long? Yeah, Jay Hoff really good.

2609
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 4: I thought Walker and Furfey had a moment or two,

2610
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 4: which I think is important to see no matter the

2611
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:28,360
Speaker 4: wins and losses obviously the rest of the season, but yeah,

2612
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 4: it's it's a slide like no other. Does it end tomorrow?

2613
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 4: Does it end in Charlotte?

2614
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 2: Charlotte's been playing better basketball.

2615
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 4: Only beat the Thunder by twenty something.

2616
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's their young core starting to get it together

2617
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 2: over there.

2618
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 4: So you would say if it ends December eighth, last

2619
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 4: time we have talked about a Pacers or a Colts Vicker.

2620
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: College basketball Saint John's an eighty four seventy winner over

2621
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 1: Butler last night up at Hinklefield House. Bulldogs dropped to

2622
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: one and four in conference play. They committed twenty turnovers

2623
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 1: were out rebounded heavily in that game last night. Michael

2624
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,720
Speaker 1: Jai had fourteen points, nine rebounds, but kind of limited defensively.

2625
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 1: He played with four fouls for a lot of the

2626
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: second half last night. They will play next Wednesday at

2627
01:59:07,120 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: Xavier and again Kevin tonight the double header on the

2628
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 1: Big Ten Network. Indiana at Maryland six thirty. Perdue, the

2629
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 1: fifth rank team in the nation, will host Washington at

2630
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:16,360
Speaker 1: eight thirty tonight.

2631
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, big favorites. Both those Perdue at home fifteen and

2632
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,840
Speaker 4: a half, Indiana on the road seven and a half.

2633
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 4: For those that haven't been paying attention, Maryland is the

2634
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 4: worst team in the Big Ten this year. Buzz Williams

2635
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 4: came over to phil where Kevin Willard went to Villanova.

2636
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 4: So Ferrell Payne, they're big guy who had a double

2637
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 4: double gets Indiana fe years back in Minnesota. He has

2638
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 4: been out for the last few games, so you don't see,

2639
01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 4: you know, unranked teams a seven point road favorites very

2640
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 4: often in conference. But you got one tonight here for Indiana.

2641
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, like you said, six thirty eight thirty back

2642
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 4: to back Big Ten Network for those.

2643
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 1: You remember watching college football back in the mid two thousands,

2644
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: late two thousands, Jordan Shipley for Texas.

2645
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and an electric Resernerult McCoy's as well to guy.

2646
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was involved in a bad accident on his

2647
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 1: ranch yesterday in his hometown of Burnet, and something caught

2648
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: fire on a machine that he was operating on the ranch,

2649
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: and he's got burns over twenty percent of his body.

2650
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Was care flighted to Austin. He remains hospitalized there right now.

2651
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 1: So we certainly wish him the best. But I remember

2652
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 1: thinking that that guy was electric.

2653
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 2: To watching college football.

2654
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:25,760
Speaker 4: That's awful story.

2655
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 2: So hopefully things improved for him.

2656
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 1: Anything else you guys want to throw in before we

2657
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 1: head out to the second half of the day hour.

2658
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, agat seven openings here NFL. Wise, we'll see if

2659
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 4: anymore happened. I don't think there's anything that we were

2660
02:00:37,040 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 4: kind of waiting on. One thing to note with Wildcard

2661
02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 4: Weekend pointed this out yesterday. Of the six games three Saturday,

2662
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 4: two Sunday, one Monday, four road favorites in these games.

2663
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:52,120
Speaker 4: I cannot recall the last time I've entered an NFL

2664
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:57,160
Speaker 4: playoff situation and have had more unknown about it, Like,

2665
02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 4: let's just look at the AFC. Who's the best quarterback

2666
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 4: in AFC.

2667
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 2: Josh Allen in the playoffs, Josh.

2668
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 4: Who's the defense you trust the least in the AFC?

2669
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:09,880
Speaker 2: Probably Bills? Yeah, probably, Just.

2670
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 4: Like there's not obvious. I mean, if you had to

2671
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 4: pick an AFC representative right now, who would you pick?

2672
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 3: Boy?

2673
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:19,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's wide open.

2674
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 4: Any of the seven and talk myself out of any

2675
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 4: of them, I'll tell.

2676
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 7: You right now.

2677
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 1: Probably the way that the last month has played out,

2678
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,120
Speaker 1: and I like teams that play well in December.

2679
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Jacksonville looks nasty right now, they do.

2680
02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 3: I can't argue at this point it is wide open,

2681
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 3: which again underscores and probably hurts the Colts fans that

2682
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:41,040
Speaker 3: wish better injury luck finished better. Whatever you might've been

2683
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 3: in this dance too.

2684
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 1: Packers and Bears, Mark, is it get any better for

2685
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 1: a playoff game hosting?

2686
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Not at all.

2687
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 6: I'm excited, I hope. I'm not pissed like Kevin at

2688
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:54,560
Speaker 6: the jury in. I haven't looking forward to it.

2689
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 1: I haven't paid much attention this week. Is Jordan Love

2690
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna play for the Packers?

2691
02:01:57,640 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been sitting out for a month though, so

2692
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,680
Speaker 6: we'll see what happens there. But Bears a getting Roma

2693
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 6: Dune's aback. They're also supposed to get Braxton Jones back,

2694
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 6: and I forget who the other guy is, But then who.

2695
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 2: Needs a Dunes? I mean got Luther Burden taking off

2696
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 2: all the suffer.

2697
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:12,880
Speaker 6: The Burden's been a dude, He's been very good draft.

2698
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about going home to watch that with my uncle,

2699
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 3: just to see him lose his mind. Enjoy or agony.

2700
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 3: Either way it's gonna happen.

2701
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 6: I'm not going with you, James, I'm going to go

2702
02:02:21,640 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 6: over the west.

2703
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:23,360
Speaker 4: Side and hit up Mark's house.

2704
02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 3: That is true, Mark, are you gonna be standing in

2705
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:25,680
Speaker 3: front of the tv for like?

2706
02:02:25,960 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 2: Can you live stream that? I could?

2707
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 6: I already told Ashley, I like just be be ready.

2708
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,320
Speaker 2: Can we honestly? Can you can you live stream that?

2709
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:34,160
Speaker 3: I could?

2710
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 6: Probably? I probably should. My kids probably don't want me

2711
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 6: to do that, but I should. In might we'll see.

2712
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 1: Man be like live streaming Kevin watching Friday night late

2713
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 1: game with Notre Dame over there.

2714
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,360
Speaker 4: Mark, I will not be watching Saturday night Notre Dame Clemson.

2715
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 4: Oh hipping at six?

2716
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:53,520
Speaker 6: You can get double screen that? Come on now, you can't.

2717
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:55,879
Speaker 4: You can't double screen anything. When the Irish from Baby.

2718
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:57,720
Speaker 1: I will tell you when those games are scheduled. Coming

2719
02:02:57,760 --> 02:02:58,920
Speaker 1: up at a minute here and talk a little bit

2720
02:02:58,920 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 1: more about how the Colts into all this. It's coming

2721
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 1: your way next at ninety three five and when on

2722
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 1: seven As the Colts get ready to run it back

2723
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 1: next year. They have two division rivals that will be

2724
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 1: playing in the wild Card round of the playoffs this

2725
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 1: coming weekend. We've talked about.

2726
02:03:14,840 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 2: The Jaguars will be playing the Bills.

2727
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: Just a moment ago, but also the Texans on Monday

2728
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:20,360
Speaker 1: night will take on the Steelers.

2729
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 2: So your two.

2730
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: Games on Saturday afternoon and evening Rams Panthers at four

2731
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,320
Speaker 1: point thirty and then mark your Packers.

2732
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 2: And Bears at eight pm. How are you feeling about

2733
02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 2: this game?

2734
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: You feel pretty confident, You feel pretty good about this

2735
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 1: it's necessary.

2736
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:38,640
Speaker 6: Scared of the Packers. I feel like if the Bears

2737
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 6: lose on Saturday night, it's more of what the Bears

2738
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 6: have done. They've gone off to some slow starts last

2739
02:03:42,760 --> 02:03:45,280
Speaker 6: couple games. The defense is not very good at all,

2740
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 6: but the offense is very good. So the championship level offense.

2741
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 6: Can the defense slow down Jordan Love and the Packers?

2742
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 6: We shall see, But I do feel that if they lose,

2743
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,280
Speaker 6: it'll be more on the Bears losing than the Packers

2744
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 6: actually winning.

2745
02:03:57,120 --> 02:03:59,920
Speaker 1: They see Ben Johnson was really complimentary a Caleb wi

2746
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 1: EAMs this past week in press conferences.

2747
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:02,600
Speaker 2: Did you catch any of that?

2748
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 7: Oh?

2749
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:04,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love Ben Jones.

2750
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 2: He's made for these moments.

2751
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:08,040
Speaker 6: That one was that's what you need in a good coach,

2752
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:09,760
Speaker 6: is you see that he gets the most out of

2753
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 6: his players.

2754
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:15,360
Speaker 1: Man And then uh Sunday afternoon Bill's Jaguars at one

2755
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 1: and then the forty nine Ers Eagles at four thirty.

2756
02:04:18,920 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 2: I can't figure that game out to save my life, Kevin,

2757
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 2: can you.

2758
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one of the few home favorites, right, yeah,

2759
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers. Yeah, I think that's a great game.

2760
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 4: You know, I think Chargers Patriots. You know, Drake may

2761
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 4: on this stage here justin Herbert and Harball, the cross

2762
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 4: country trip. I'm looking forward to that Sunday Night football.

2763
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 3: See the MVP. By the way, Drake, many.

2764
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:42,720
Speaker 4: I assume feels like I don't know Stafford the totality

2765
02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:44,360
Speaker 4: of the season. I don't want to lose sight of that,

2766
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 4: but I'd have to look into it a little bit more,

2767
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,320
Speaker 4: to be honest with you. And then Monday. You know, James,

2768
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 4: you've brought it up that Pittsburgh losing streak in the

2769
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:52,280
Speaker 4: playoffs is no joke.

2770
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 3: No, And I know Mark Dyke will be praying on

2771
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 3: their downfall like he was last you know it, So

2772
02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 3: you know it. We'll see how shakes out. But Houston,

2773
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:04,280
Speaker 3: to their credit, I believe they've won at least one

2774
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 3: playoff game in each of the last two years with CJ. Stroud,

2775
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 3: They've been a four team both years with Stroud, so

2776
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 3: there are no slouch in these moments. I do want

2777
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 3: to give C. J. Stroud in company that respect. But

2778
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:19,959
Speaker 3: it should be as always a very weird NFL postseason

2779
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:22,880
Speaker 3: because every time we'd think one thing will be one way,

2780
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 3: it usually does not end up like that. That's why

2781
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 3: the league is so fun. There's there's parody.

2782
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 7: Now.

2783
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 3: I say that knowing the Chiefs just made it to

2784
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 3: three Shay super Bowls, but they're not in it this year.

2785
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 3: So it's wide open.

2786
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 6: So if you guys had to make a guest, because

2787
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 6: we just have talked about how wide open it is,

2788
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:38,040
Speaker 6: who do you have going to the super Bowl for

2789
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 6: both conferences?

2790
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 4: I still okay, I'm still going to go with the

2791
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 4: best quarterback. I know that's probably dumb. I get the

2792
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,120
Speaker 4: gout to go in the row, but I am going

2793
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:47,240
Speaker 4: to go Bills and it might have to be a shootout.

2794
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:48,360
Speaker 6: But and who's in the NFC.

2795
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 4: NFC I'm gonna go Eagles.

2796
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 3: Ooh okay, okay, well let me take a look here

2797
02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 3: at the bracket. I'm gonna go in the AFC with

2798
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 3: Oh boy, I'm gonna go with Josh Allen. I feel

2799
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 3: like if it's ever a year for you to get through, brother,

2800
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:13,400
Speaker 3: this is the year. And then on the NFC side,

2801
02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Matthew Stafford Rams just to.

2802
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Be different in the AFC, because I could have gone

2803
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:23,840
Speaker 1: either way. I'm gonna go with the Jaguars, and I

2804
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: will have them playing another bit of an upset here

2805
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:30,680
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. I'll go Jaguars forty nine ers.

2806
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:35,040
Speaker 3: Who wouldn't that be something James Day gets the Super

2807
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 3: Bowl after all those injuries they double, That would be

2808
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 3: something obviously.

2809
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 4: To sell the John Harbaugh News yesterday. We brought this

2810
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:41,880
Speaker 4: up earlier in the show. But James, your colleague Dan

2811
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 4: Duggan covers the Giants. Correct, Yes, and he is.

2812
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 3: He just put out one of the most hilarious columns

2813
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 3: about how anp that franchise is. I mean, you think

2814
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 3: we've gone scorched earth a little bit over what's going

2815
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 3: on here with the Colts. The man put out a

2816
02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 3: column that just dunked on everybody hilarious content.

2817
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 4: So their GM is actually to Paul guy Joe Shane,

2818
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 4: who has kept his job seemingly. I don't know, maybe

2819
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:08,600
Speaker 4: the hardball thing would change, But Dougan had pointed out,

2820
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 4: and I think even Adam Shefter had reported that he

2821
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 4: thinks John Harball covets the Giants Shop of all the openings.

2822
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 4: But Dougan mentioned that he thought at one point lou

2823
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:24,720
Speaker 4: An Arumo was the favorite for the job, so I

2824
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,280
Speaker 4: you know, we're kind of in a weird Obviously Harball

2825
02:07:27,320 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 4: is now the crown jewel of the coaching cycle, but

2826
02:07:29,560 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 4: I don't think there was a whole lot of obvious

2827
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 4: other names in the cycle here, so you know, the

2828
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,000
Speaker 4: Andarumo thing will be one to watch. He coached in

2829
02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 4: New York, did he?

2830
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:38,760
Speaker 7: Not?

2831
02:07:38,880 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 4: James? Not very long, but he coach in New York.

2832
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was a defensive backs coach for

2833
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:44,440
Speaker 3: maybe a year. I'm not mistaken.

2834
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 4: So you know, I guess there is some sort of

2835
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:48,680
Speaker 4: not a ton, but some sort of.

2836
02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 3: I think his son might have worked for them as well,

2837
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 3: so gotcha. He's a Stadn Island New York guy, so

2838
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,680
Speaker 3: I you know, how gets the lingo of the language.

2839
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 3: But real quick, this is what Dan wrote about them

2840
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 3: bringing back They're GM there in New York, Joe Shane,

2841
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:06,120
Speaker 3: and he wrote as discouraging as that decision is for

2842
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 3: fans who somehow still muster support for a team that

2843
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 3: is getting further from its proud history with each passing season.

2844
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:15,280
Speaker 3: That's ownership's right. If your grandfather has spent five hundred

2845
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 3: dollars the persas of the Giants in nineteen twenty five,

2846
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,680
Speaker 3: you too could have made decisions that prioritize keeping family

2847
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:24,040
Speaker 3: members and allies and cushy rolls as a franchise bottoms

2848
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:25,720
Speaker 3: out during one of the worst stretches. And it's one

2849
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 3: on one year history staying you too, If you're a grandfather,

2850
02:08:31,280 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 3: you too invested in this round. I mean, that is

2851
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:36,880
Speaker 3: as cold as it gets. That was hilarious.

2852
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 1: How crazy is it that as we sit here today,

2853
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 1: the most coveted coach on the market is John Harbaugh,

2854
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 1: and probably the most coveted job is the one he

2855
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 1: just left in Baltimore.

2856
02:08:48,400 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, anytime you can get pair with a

2857
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,080
Speaker 3: two time MVP and Lamar Jackson, that is the job

2858
02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 3: that you want if you're a coach. And I'm very

2859
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:57,360
Speaker 3: curious to see what direction they go in, but not

2860
02:08:57,440 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 3: that it's apples to apples that my editor points this

2861
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:01,800
Speaker 3: out to me, Kevin, and you know, I'm Jim i Elo,

2862
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,640
Speaker 3: former Cult supporter for the for the Indie Star. Actually,

2863
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:09,280
Speaker 3: he noted how the Ravens missed the playoffs for the

2864
02:09:09,280 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 3: first time in three years. John Horbrow, goodbye, pack your bags,

2865
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 3: you're gone. Colts have mid plaous. In five years, we'll

2866
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:20,600
Speaker 3: bring everybody back. Different standards man.

2867
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:25,760
Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah, abundantly true. Yeah, it's again, he told

2868
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame coach, goodbye, acceptance of mediocrity, all that. Yeah,

2869
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 4: I mean it's yeah. You can't even can't even compare

2870
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 4: the two. I guess there's a little bit of irony

2871
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 4: in Baltimore and Indianapolis somewhere in that entire comparison.

2872
02:09:37,200 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 2: If you're John Harbaugh, which job do you like the most?

2873
02:09:40,240 --> 02:09:40,440
Speaker 7: Kevin?

2874
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Mendoza thing I think is really interesting.

2875
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 4: You know, are you a big, big believer in him?

2876
02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 4: You know, if you told me, I like, if you

2877
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,600
Speaker 4: think Mendoza is a dude, dude an offense with Mendoza,

2878
02:10:01,680 --> 02:10:10,640
Speaker 4: Brock Powers and Ashton Genty hmm. Now it's the Raiders mahomes. Theoretically,

2879
02:10:10,640 --> 02:10:12,440
Speaker 4: you would assume it gets healthy and he's still in

2880
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:14,680
Speaker 4: your division. Justin Herbert is also in your division. The

2881
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 4: Broncos are also.

2882
02:10:15,960 --> 02:10:18,480
Speaker 3: In your division like that, When you put it like that,

2883
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,080
Speaker 3: can you can you give me some hope?

2884
02:10:20,120 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 4: Well, Ashon GenZ Brock powers and Fernando Mendoza. Is that

2885
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 4: not on offense that could do some things? So I

2886
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 4: and you know Max Crosby is still a great, great,

2887
02:10:28,000 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 4: great player, So you know that would be one I'd

2888
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:33,839
Speaker 4: look at. He might not be there though, well obviously

2889
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 4: you would have to make a decision on that. You know,

2890
02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:39,160
Speaker 4: I think the cam Ward things interested. I think cam

2891
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:41,120
Speaker 4: Ward had a little bit of a better rookie season

2892
02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:42,919
Speaker 4: than maybe the numbers will indicate.

2893
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:45,840
Speaker 1: Every time I watched him, I thought, I mean, he

2894
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 1: had some rookie bumps and ups, and there's certainly some downs,

2895
02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 1: but he's I liked a lot of what his raw

2896
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:53,560
Speaker 1: ability offered when I watched him.

2897
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:55,480
Speaker 4: This year, So that those would probably be a couple

2898
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,640
Speaker 4: that I would look at. Obviously, if Cincinnati would have opened,

2899
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:02,320
Speaker 4: I think that would have been really intriguing. And you know,

2900
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 4: now I'm just kind of curious, do we see any

2901
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 4: big domino? Obviously Harball is probably the first one, But

2902
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 4: you know, is there anything that we're missing?

2903
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 2: Is there another team out there that were smart going

2904
02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:13,200
Speaker 2: to the Falcons.

2905
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, is there another team out

2906
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:18,080
Speaker 1: there that would fire their current head coach if they

2907
02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:20,520
Speaker 1: truly thought they could get John Harball right now?

2908
02:11:24,040 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 4: A lot of people of want the Colts to rethink that,

2909
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:30,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I do think that's a fair question, Jeff,

2910
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 4: And I mean you better be obviously.

2911
02:11:32,760 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 2: Because you have a you have all in on that.

2912
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:37,320
Speaker 1: You have a John Harbaugh who is not only is

2913
02:11:37,440 --> 02:11:41,120
Speaker 1: just successful across the board, but more importantly, he's thought

2914
02:11:41,120 --> 02:11:43,360
Speaker 1: of as a as a as a culture a true

2915
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:46,120
Speaker 1: culture builder, right And has.

2916
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:47,920
Speaker 4: Harball gotten to the point now where he can do

2917
02:11:48,000 --> 02:11:49,920
Speaker 4: the Liam cuhen thing last year, he can bring in

2918
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 4: his own GM, or he can dictate some of that.

2919
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:57,280
Speaker 4: And is there an ownership group that has that relationship

2920
02:11:57,320 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 4: with him and could make that happen.

2921
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:05,760
Speaker 1: If I was thinking of I was just looking at

2922
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: the teams that decided to keep their head coach after

2923
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:10,640
Speaker 1: a less than stellar season.

2924
02:12:11,480 --> 02:12:13,960
Speaker 2: John Harvey Ain't going to the New York Jets, right,

2925
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:18,000
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen.

2926
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:20,000
Speaker 1: I just I just that's one of the first teams

2927
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,280
Speaker 1: I looked at up crossed that one off the list.

2928
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:24,040
Speaker 3: So Aaron Glenn's still there.

2929
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 1: But my point being that the question is there a

2930
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:28,480
Speaker 1: team that would just let their head coach go if

2931
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:29,640
Speaker 1: they thought they could get you shot.

2932
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 3: You hired a defensive coach and went the entire season

2933
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:36,320
Speaker 3: without an interception the first time that, How does that happen?

2934
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:38,160
Speaker 4: How do you not get one interception?

2935
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:40,680
Speaker 2: Why it's never happened in the history of the league before.

2936
02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:45,560
Speaker 3: I think it speaks to you being truly an awful team.

2937
02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 3: Like if I look at the defense and say, none

2938
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 3: of you guys could tip a pass and just get lucky, right,

2939
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:53,680
Speaker 3: why the heck are any of you even around?

2940
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:56,520
Speaker 4: That might be like the Joe Demajuo hitting streak stat

2941
02:12:56,920 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 4: or they see that type of thing.

2942
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll offer you one team that could make a

2943
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:05,560
Speaker 1: case to John Harbaugh if they fired the head coach

2944
02:13:05,640 --> 02:13:07,520
Speaker 1: that was on the hot seat and they'd elected to

2945
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 1: keep him anyway, how about how about Harbaugh going.

2946
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 2: With Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders.

2947
02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm listening.

2948
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:19,160
Speaker 2: That would be to me, that's the one that would

2949
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 2: make the most sense.

2950
02:13:20,120 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, with the Cliff Kingsbury news of him,

2951
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,520
Speaker 4: now you know, mutual party and ways. I also think

2952
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,200
Speaker 4: that I mean the Commander's got to what the NFC

2953
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 4: title game last year. That'd be quite the quick hook

2954
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 4: on dan Quinn.

2955
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:29,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2956
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 1: I like dan Quinn, but I'm just saying there was

2957
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people wondering if they were going to

2958
02:13:34,480 --> 02:13:34,880
Speaker 1: keep him.

2959
02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 6: So how about the Cowboys make a splash Jerry.

2960
02:13:38,160 --> 02:13:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that would be a very cowboy thing to do.

2961
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 2: That it would be Do you think John Harbor at

2962
02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 2: this point wants to go work for Jerry Jones.

2963
02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:48,640
Speaker 3: For a big enough bad money clears right?

2964
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, quick time out.

2965
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:51,760
Speaker 1: We'll be back to wrap it up for you in

2966
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:53,520
Speaker 1: a Moment's ninety three five and one of seven.

2967
02:13:53,400 --> 02:13:54,040
Speaker 7: Five fan.

2968
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:58,680
Speaker 1: Don't have a lot of games on the air tonight,

2969
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:01,840
Speaker 1: but we do have on a Horizon A hosted by

2970
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:04,360
Speaker 1: Greg Raikeshaw with the Horizon League coming up tonight at

2971
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:07,720
Speaker 1: six pm. Track Side will follow with Kurt and Kevin

2972
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:10,880
Speaker 1: at seven pm, So we're looking forward to some of

2973
02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:14,000
Speaker 1: that programming. Then of course getting ready for IU Oregon

2974
02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 1: Friday night at six point thirty. Wow, it's just it's

2975
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm starting to look at the at the days and

2976
02:14:20,840 --> 02:14:21,360
Speaker 1: the hours.

2977
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:21,600
Speaker 7: Now.

2978
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:25,440
Speaker 1: Remember you know there's always those games, James where you

2979
02:14:25,480 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 1: start counting down hours.

2980
02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:29,920
Speaker 2: At a certain point, Mark started counting down this playoff game,

2981
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:33,240
Speaker 2: probably three days ago, right, like, are you are you

2982
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:35,080
Speaker 2: able to even go to sleep right now thinking about

2983
02:14:35,080 --> 02:14:36,000
Speaker 2: this game? Well, I have to.

2984
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 6: With three kids, I need all the energy I can get,

2985
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:41,000
Speaker 6: so I'm finding ways. It's not been easy though.

2986
02:14:41,240 --> 02:14:43,040
Speaker 3: I do like the steaks though. I mean, I will

2987
02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:48,080
Speaker 3: always love any playoff setting Baseball, football, basketball, It don't matter.

2988
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 3: Once you get to the elimination rounds, that's when everything's hiding.

2989
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:54,960
Speaker 4: Man, I'm surprised you're not more into these next two weekends,

2990
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,080
Speaker 4: Jeff versus AFC.

2991
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:57,800
Speaker 2: I didn't say that wasn't into them.

2992
02:14:57,800 --> 02:15:00,840
Speaker 4: You asked me what you You're not more into them?

2993
02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2994
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm more.

2995
02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:05,200
Speaker 1: In this weekend to the to the Indiana game Friday night,

2996
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,240
Speaker 1: and I will certainly watch all the games this weekend.

2997
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:12,560
Speaker 1: I just I like games with gravity, and they all

2998
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:13,040
Speaker 1: have gravity.

2999
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 2: Because you don't you can't wait.

3000
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:16,560
Speaker 3: It is big legacies get decided this weekend.

3001
02:15:16,680 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, more legacies get decided when you start going to

3002
02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowls and stuff.

3003
02:15:20,120 --> 02:15:20,520
Speaker 3: Facts.

3004
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:24,480
Speaker 4: Who should Indiana root for Miami or old miss Ole miss?

3005
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:28,560
Speaker 3: I think Miami, their defensive line, what they're doing.

3006
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:32,240
Speaker 4: I think ole Miss has got the quarter that is true.

3007
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:35,600
Speaker 3: But again I just feel like those trenches with Miami

3008
02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:38,680
Speaker 3: that can change things. I do like Malachai Tony. I

3009
02:15:38,720 --> 02:15:42,400
Speaker 3: think that he's a player that can he killed. Yeah,

3010
02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 3: so that's my take on that, and I do think again,

3011
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:50,200
Speaker 3: Carson Beck, for what it's worth, is a very experienced quarterback. Still,

3012
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 3: so they give me the most I guess fear, but

3013
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:55,160
Speaker 3: I will say this, I'm not really fearing too many

3014
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:57,760
Speaker 3: teams from the IU angle. Is just if you play

3015
02:15:57,800 --> 02:16:00,280
Speaker 3: your best ball. I don't think anybody else can that

3016
02:16:00,360 --> 02:16:00,840
Speaker 3: level with you.

3017
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:04,040
Speaker 1: Uh, here's the fan text line mark for you. If

3018
02:16:04,080 --> 02:16:06,560
Speaker 1: the Packers get blown out by the Bears this weekend,

3019
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:11,680
Speaker 1: watch Lafloor get fired and Harbaugh get hired in Green Bay.

3020
02:16:11,920 --> 02:16:13,800
Speaker 6: I'd happily accept that situation.

3021
02:16:16,240 --> 02:16:19,560
Speaker 3: Boy boy, boy boy at consistent mark.

3022
02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, goodness, goodness.

3023
02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:26,520
Speaker 1: Um oh, it's our first spam to the fan text

3024
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,360
Speaker 1: line today about that somebody's.

3025
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:31,000
Speaker 6: Selling another picture for you.

3026
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:34,440
Speaker 1: No, somebody selling a trucking company. Click the click here

3027
02:16:34,480 --> 02:16:39,360
Speaker 1: for more information. Adam says, this is interesting. Why would

3028
02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:41,920
Speaker 1: we want to root for Pacers wins at this point?

3029
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 1: The Bots up or bust. Well, they're going to be

3030
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:47,039
Speaker 1: one of the there's no question. I think they're going

3031
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:49,280
Speaker 1: to be one of the bottom four teams. So they'll

3032
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:51,400
Speaker 1: be there with an equal shot at the lottery, won't they.

3033
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:54,120
Speaker 3: James, Yeah, I guess we've just been talking about can

3034
02:16:54,320 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 3: Rick Carlis'll just get to the one thousand win threshold

3035
02:16:58,440 --> 02:17:00,120
Speaker 3: and then yeah. I don't think and I don't like

3036
02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:02,840
Speaker 3: anybody expecting a turnaround for this franchise. But I will

3037
02:17:02,840 --> 02:17:05,760
Speaker 3: add and not to get too deep into the NBA

3038
02:17:05,959 --> 02:17:10,040
Speaker 3: Draft lottery weeds. The Darren Peterson experience. Kevin at Kansas

3039
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:13,200
Speaker 3: is such a unique thing to me. That kid is

3040
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:17,320
Speaker 3: so talented and I look at him think if you're

3041
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:20,960
Speaker 3: talking about just pure talent, skill level and all of

3042
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:23,840
Speaker 3: those things, he would be the player I would want

3043
02:17:23,840 --> 02:17:27,240
Speaker 3: the most to join the Pacers with Tyres Halliburton. The

3044
02:17:27,360 --> 02:17:30,720
Speaker 3: kid is special and he looks ready, but talk about

3045
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:34,840
Speaker 3: being ready. He hasn't finished the majority of their games

3046
02:17:34,840 --> 02:17:36,720
Speaker 3: this year due to like Ye nagging a bunch of

3047
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:41,320
Speaker 3: hamstring injuries, cramp. It's really weird how they're helping Gibs.

3048
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:45,039
Speaker 3: Even last night he was cooking and then they sat

3049
02:17:45,120 --> 02:17:46,800
Speaker 3: them and then they needed it like a three. At

3050
02:17:46,840 --> 02:17:48,080
Speaker 3: the end of the game, they sup them back in

3051
02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,199
Speaker 3: for one play, he gets fouled, makes all three free throws,

3052
02:17:50,600 --> 02:17:54,000
Speaker 3: then doesn't plan in the overtime. So it was really

3053
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:56,680
Speaker 3: weird and I and that just gives me a little hesitancy,

3054
02:17:56,879 --> 02:17:59,440
Speaker 3: like what's going on here? And is this something that's

3055
02:17:59,440 --> 02:18:02,000
Speaker 3: gonna carry over to the NBA, because I mean, look,

3056
02:18:02,320 --> 02:18:03,720
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to be very old in

3057
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:06,640
Speaker 3: this statement. I don't want rookies coming in with low management.

3058
02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:08,640
Speaker 3: I cannot deal with that. If the guy, if they

3059
02:18:08,640 --> 02:18:11,400
Speaker 3: tell me that hamstring issues, avoid him like the plague.

3060
02:18:11,440 --> 02:18:13,920
Speaker 4: Please if you have a top four pick. But yeah,

3061
02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:16,280
Speaker 4: I mean the handling. You know, we see it in

3062
02:18:16,280 --> 02:18:18,840
Speaker 4: the transfer of portal. I mean the handling of college athletes.

3063
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:20,039
Speaker 4: I think it is one of the I mean, we

3064
02:18:20,040 --> 02:18:21,680
Speaker 4: could do a show on that for three hundred and

3065
02:18:21,680 --> 02:18:22,120
Speaker 4: sixty five.

3066
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:24,880
Speaker 3: It's just weird. And then no one can tell you

3067
02:18:24,879 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 3: what's going on. But he is so good, Oh my goodness.

3068
02:18:27,680 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 4: And you know, I know Louisville's dealing with some of

3069
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 4: that right now with mckel brown a little bit. You know,

3070
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:34,880
Speaker 4: in that injury situation. It's been a little awkward as well. So, yeah,

3071
02:18:34,920 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 4: he is very, very talented. And you know Boozer last

3072
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:39,680
Speaker 4: night I was twenty seven. And you know, I know

3073
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:41,440
Speaker 4: some people say, well, you can't take Boozer. You s

3074
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:43,280
Speaker 4: took out Siakam for a couple of years. I think

3075
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:45,240
Speaker 4: when you try to play the positional game in the

3076
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:46,879
Speaker 4: NBA draft, it's really dangerous.

3077
02:18:47,080 --> 02:18:47,440
Speaker 7: No, it's not.

3078
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:48,560
Speaker 3: Not the NFL.

3079
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 4: You just got a freaking hit on it.

3080
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you're picking top three, top four, top five,

3081
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 3: even just pick the best player. Yeah, and figured it

3082
02:18:55,520 --> 02:18:57,039
Speaker 3: out and then, trust me, figure if you have a

3083
02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 3: player that can figure it out, it's Halliburton, because I

3084
02:18:59,680 --> 02:19:01,920
Speaker 3: think his game is adaptable to anybody else's.

3085
02:19:02,959 --> 02:19:06,200
Speaker 1: Kevin, here's anonymous Texter for you, Carson Beck a target

3086
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:08,440
Speaker 1: for the Colts in the second round.

3087
02:19:09,560 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 4: Boy, I don't see that out of Carson Beck.

3088
02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:12,800
Speaker 2: That seems a little high for me.

3089
02:19:13,320 --> 02:19:13,960
Speaker 7: No, I don't.

3090
02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:14,520
Speaker 9: I don't.

3091
02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker 7: I do.

3092
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 3: We'll get into it as the offseason gets further along.

3093
02:19:19,560 --> 02:19:22,960
Speaker 3: But again, second round, what do you do at that

3094
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:24,760
Speaker 3: pick that is your first pick on the board, And

3095
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:27,400
Speaker 3: how do you inject some help now with this roster?

3096
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:28,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's got to be to me, it's

3097
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:31,360
Speaker 4: got to be defense, defensive front. I mean, I don't.

3098
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:34,080
Speaker 4: If the regime would have changed, I might entertain the

3099
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 4: quarterback thought a little bit more in the earliest round,

3100
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:40,800
Speaker 4: second third, wherever the culture ultimately gonna pick. But with

3101
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:44,000
Speaker 4: the regime running it back then, no, I don't. I

3102
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:46,119
Speaker 4: don't see that. I think it as much as you've

3103
02:19:46,120 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 4: swung a miss at edge Rusher, you got to keep

3104
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:48,119
Speaker 4: on swinging.

3105
02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:48,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

3106
02:19:48,560 --> 02:19:51,360
Speaker 3: Here's a good point from Scott, another Texter on the

3107
02:19:51,440 --> 02:19:54,480
Speaker 3: fan line. He says, I'm rooting for all miss because

3108
02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:56,200
Speaker 3: if Miami wins, they get a home game, and I

3109
02:19:56,320 --> 02:19:59,800
Speaker 3: forgot about that. Actually they're down there for the National title.

3110
02:20:00,320 --> 02:20:02,280
Speaker 4: I do think we probasure Worth point out, yes, it

3111
02:20:02,320 --> 02:20:05,360
Speaker 4: is in their backyard, but also those ticket prices are

3112
02:20:05,680 --> 02:20:07,960
Speaker 4: absolutely I mean, yeah, I was fortunate to go to

3113
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:11,640
Speaker 4: the National title last year. With the media credential, there's

3114
02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:13,760
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a corporate field to it,

3115
02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:14,680
Speaker 4: and I don't.

3116
02:20:14,959 --> 02:20:17,280
Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, I thought you had that big money, Kevin.

3117
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:22,440
Speaker 2: They're doing staycations at the Drury in What do you mean, man,

3118
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:25,040
Speaker 2: I like it. It's spending big money on those staycations.

3119
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:27,120
Speaker 4: It's a great deal for that. By the way, Dan

3120
02:20:27,160 --> 02:20:29,800
Speaker 4: asked earlier if I should add a zero to ask Jeff,

3121
02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:32,440
Speaker 4: I should add a zero to my next paycheck here

3122
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:32,920
Speaker 4: with your.

3123
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:38,080
Speaker 1: Jeff doesn't get to make those to say, hey, ask away.

3124
02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:39,959
Speaker 4: I can clip that out and take onto the higher ups.

3125
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:44,920
Speaker 1: Last one here, Josh in South Carolina says Ballard has

3126
02:20:44,959 --> 02:20:47,760
Speaker 1: no reason to be pissed. He's the luckiest guy in

3127
02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:49,959
Speaker 1: the NFL. I won't repeat the way he actually said that,

3128
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:51,640
Speaker 1: but he's the luckiest guy in the NFL.

3129
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:52,960
Speaker 4: Is there an acronym?

3130
02:20:53,000 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 1: He needs you to ask him if he's aware that

3131
02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:57,800
Speaker 1: ninety percent plus of this fan base does not want

3132
02:20:57,840 --> 02:20:59,880
Speaker 1: you here as a GM.

3133
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:00,840
Speaker 4: I think he's pretty aware of it.

3134
02:21:00,920 --> 02:21:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he knows all right. Anything else you

3135
02:21:03,320 --> 02:21:04,840
Speaker 2: want to throw in, Mark before we head off for

3136
02:21:04,879 --> 02:21:05,200
Speaker 2: the day.

3137
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:08,800
Speaker 1: That's about it, all right, Thanks so much for being

3138
02:21:08,840 --> 02:21:10,840
Speaker 1: a part of everything that we do here. In ninety

3139
02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 1: three five and one O seven five to the fan,

3140
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,440
Speaker 1: Jay Query comes your way from noon to three JMV

3141
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 1: gets going at three p m. He's been rough on

3142
02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:20,640
Speaker 1: the cult the last couple of days. We'll listen for

3143
02:21:20,680 --> 02:21:22,840
Speaker 1: more of that later on. I ninety three five and

3144
02:21:22,840 --> 02:21:23,800
Speaker 1: one to seven, five to the fan.

3145
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:26,440
Speaker 4: I think he gets off to what he's doing down there.

3146
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:28,920
Speaker 4: You imagine you're going to get something, and then it's

3147
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:31,000
Speaker 4: a limp from My grandfather always told me you rather

3148
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:32,280
Speaker 4: be pissed off than pissed on.