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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 2: Seventy two seventy ten seconds to.

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Speaker 3: Go, got it cut and run through the ball and who.

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Speaker 2: Two seconds yous tosses it up. It's John, We're poor.

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Speaker 1: Three there, John.

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Speaker 2: Goes in front.

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Speaker 4: Utterly impossible, more strange drama.

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Speaker 5: And with that, the first reported earthquake in the history

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Speaker 5: of Hancock County occurred Sunday evening around seven o'clock as

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Speaker 5: Braylan Mullen's from thirty five feet and the Onions. The

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Speaker 5: apt description there from one Bill rafferty Eroinn Eagle terrific

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Speaker 5: on that.

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Speaker 2: Call, and to talk more about Brayl Mullens.

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Speaker 5: And his days growing up, and probably one that will

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Speaker 5: remember that shot for quite some time. He was the

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Speaker 5: man that coached Braylin over at Greenfield Central. He is

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Speaker 5: Luke Meredith and he joins us here on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 5: Luke can't thank you enough for the time. Man, how

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Speaker 5: are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good about yourself.

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Speaker 5: We are great. It was a where were you moment.

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Speaker 5: I picked up my five year old daughter. She's freaking out, like,

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Speaker 5: what are you doing right now? When Braylon Mullens hit

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Speaker 5: that shot? I have zero ties to Braylon Mullens. I

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Speaker 5: have zero ties to Yukon. But it was just one

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Speaker 5: of those moments where the sports world overtook me. Where

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Speaker 5: were you when that shot went in?

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Speaker 1: It was in my basement at my house here in

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Speaker 1: Greenfield watching it with my family. As soon as the

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Speaker 1: shot left his hands, I said, OMG.

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Speaker 6: That might go in.

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Speaker 1: And when it went in it was LFG but not

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Speaker 1: the regular LFG. So it's pretty to real, pretty awesome

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Speaker 1: moment for him, his family, and our community.

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Speaker 5: I was reading a story afterwards, and I forget who

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Speaker 5: mentioned it, but someone said he had hit a similar shot.

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Speaker 5: I think Braylan had mentioned he had hit a similar

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Speaker 5: shot like that in high school. Call the game or

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Speaker 5: the moment when he had, you know, made I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it was the exact game winner, making that

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Speaker 5: that sort of shot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Two years ago we played Pendleton Heights in a

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Speaker 1: double overtime game and he had as soon as it

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Speaker 1: left his hands, similar walk off three pointer, which coincidentally

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Speaker 1: gave him fifty two points, which is the all time

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Speaker 1: single game scoring record here at Greenfield Central High School.

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Speaker 4: Luke Meredith on the Payoffs Slickers Hot Line with us

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Speaker 4: this morning, Luke, have you talked to him since then?

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Speaker 4: Shoot him a text or anything like that? Have you

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Speaker 4: talked to him during this tournament run at all?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know that he's been bombarded with thousands of texts.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was on the Pat McAfee show, he

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Speaker 1: was on the Today Show and Sports Center. But I

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Speaker 1: texted him and told him that I loved him and congratulations,

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Speaker 1: and then he took time out and facetimed me yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So that's just type of kid.

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Speaker 1: He is, great kid, very humble, seft spoken, just a

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Speaker 5: And that's the voice of Luke Meredith, who coached Braylon

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Speaker 5: Bollins over at Greenfield Central here. And it will be

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Speaker 5: Yukon and Illinois coming up, some local flavor on the

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Speaker 5: Illinois roster as well, coming up Saturday night inside of

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Speaker 5: Lucas Oil's stadium.

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Speaker 2: Luke.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think CBS showed it and I know

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Speaker 5: locally we've mentioned before. You know, Braylen's father, Josh played

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Speaker 2: When did you first meet the Mullins family.

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Speaker 5: Could you kind of take us back a little bit

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Speaker 5: of your first interaction with them and then Brayln.

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Speaker 1: So when I got the job here at Greenfield Central

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Speaker 1: Knew that I had to get him on staff, and

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Speaker 4: Luke Meredith with us on the pay Less Lakers Hotline coach.

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Speaker 4: While you were coaching Braylan in high school, what'd you

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Speaker 4: notice were his biggest strength and what he needed to

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Speaker 4: has he developed that sense?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the greatest strength for him is he

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Speaker 1: obviously is an elite shooter. I mean literally shocked when

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Speaker 1: these flurries just like he does now on this stage

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Speaker 1: where you know, he'd hit three or four threes in

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Speaker 1: during his high school seasons. But I would say one

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Speaker 1: to call him BMF, that mofo because sometimes I needed

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Speaker 2: Was that on purpose? Braylan Mullens bad mofo? Bm was

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Speaker 1: It just kind of works, right, Yeah, and it just

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Speaker 1: It just kind of happened. And now it's BMF twenty four.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the.

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Speaker 2: Nick and that it kind of worked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's T shirt sales, all right, you need to

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Speaker 4: get a copy right out.

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Speaker 5: On the say talk about acronym. I'm never gonna sniff here.

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Speaker 5: That's the voice of Luke Meredith, the Greenfield Central basketball coach.

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Speaker 5: And Braylan Mullens was there. I do want to hit

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Speaker 5: on Dan Hurley and you Khan. You mentioned obviously his

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Speaker 5: know the Mullens family has talked about I think Josh

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Speaker 5: actually been on these airwaves talked about just how active

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Speaker 5: Dan Hurley was and you know, coming to Greenfield Central

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Speaker 2: What do you remember at the interactions with.

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Speaker 1: Yukon, Well, their staff is great. I mean, Luke Murray

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Speaker 1: was very influential. He's going to actually be introduced today

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Speaker 1: at two thirty to be the Boston College head coach.

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Speaker 1: But he's great too, And and they were they recruited

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Speaker 1: Dan Hurley, he's exactly what you would think, like everybody

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Speaker 1: sees all these theatrics on the sidelines, and that's true.

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Speaker 1: But I mean we went to the depot here locally

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Speaker 1: on a recruiting visit. And they're just there. They are cool,

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Speaker 1: they'll talk to you, like regular people, they get it,

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Speaker 1: they work their tails off, and so it just kind

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Speaker 1: And then their staff was just was phenomenal and flying

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was kind of a whirlwind six

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Speaker 1: get Braylin. The greatest thing that I remember is, you know,

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Speaker 1: Matt Painter coming in at seven am and one of

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Speaker 1: the gun shooting, making five hundred shots and he shot

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Speaker 4: Luke appreciate the time we were noting are on our

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Speaker 4: drives in that the Final four setup is getting underway

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Speaker 4: downtown here. Any plans for yourself? Are there irons in

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Speaker 4: the fire to be in the building Saturday evening?

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Speaker 1: That's the goal. I did reach out to Luke Murray.

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know we were in this room.

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Speaker 1: It was Josh Katie, Braylan's parents, and myself and Braylan.

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Speaker 1: And they put a picture of Braylan up on the JW.

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Speaker 1: Marriott as a mural, kind of like what they do

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Speaker 1: now with the tournament bracker they had with Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 1: and they said, hey, we're going to bring you back

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Speaker 1: going to be there in that building. And so after

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Speaker 1: he hit that shot, I was like, hey, Luke, coach,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the appropriate time if ever, but yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to need some tickets. Still, he said, I

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Speaker 1: got you. So I'm hoping and praying that I get

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Speaker 1: to be there to support. I'm on going to try

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Speaker 1: to check him out on Friday. It'll be more low

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Speaker 1: key at their practice. They practice at noon at Lucas Oil.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to be there in some fashion, but

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Speaker 1: hope to be there with my entire family Saturday and

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Speaker 1: hopefully knock on wood Monday.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, Luke.

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Speaker 5: Were those driveways phil on Sunday night and Monday as

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Speaker 5: Hamcott County kids trying to replicate three two one there?

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Speaker 3: That was so awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean I had I have a sixth grade son

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Speaker 2: Some great stories, Mark. I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 4: Not on many many fronts, not once has anyone said

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Speaker 7: And he had just hit one like two possessions before that,

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Speaker 5: And again, it's not like Braylan had this great game

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Speaker 4: Also, the defense by the Duke defender throw throw a

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Speaker 2: The next time, who was that that? Sor Isaiah Evans.

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Speaker 5: It's like the shell shocked nature of like I can't

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Speaker 4: Advancing the ball to and then none of that. There's

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Speaker 5: A two and a half point underdog coming up on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: These two teams have met Yu Kond of Illinois earlier

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Speaker 5: Oh I got I guess the line's changed. Both lines

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Speaker 5: I was texting with Rake on Saturday or on Sunday night, saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Well is it this Sundays? I guess he starts. My god,

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Speaker 4: My brother loved him back in the day, and I

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Speaker 2: You just got offended.

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Speaker 7: I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm on an island here.

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Speaker 5: That's a fake. That's you're just trying to be the counter.

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Speaker 2: This is team Finnman's in this room and then team.

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Speaker 7: Can I interest you in this? A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 7: PEPSI came out with a Pepsi peeps drink.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounded hideous. Wow, I'd rather come on, I'd

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Speaker 2: rather Mayo.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather do Mayo in this hot coffee again as well,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 5: Tom Crean at nine James, boy, you're going to join

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Speaker 5: us here coming up at nine to thirty. We were

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Speaker 2: Well maybe he could return.

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Speaker 5: Jason on the text, I was asking where Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 5: You don't need money for your f first round pick,

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Speaker 4: And you're not up against it where you need to

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Speaker 5: So and again, Richardson's contract comes off the books after

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Speaker 5: So I understand the question, Jason. And again, if they

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Speaker 5: I do think that question would be a little bit

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Speaker 5: more of like, Okay, I don't know if you've got

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Speaker 5: I don't see it as that big of a burden.

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Speaker 4: I think that's one of their least concerns because, like

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Speaker 4: Its fifty six. Then you're just like, I mean, are

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Speaker 5: By the way, if you watch this Jail Blazers on

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Speaker 5: Netflix yet, I have not.

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Speaker 2: I've heard of it.

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Speaker 4: I saw it maybe yesterday on Twitter, but I do

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to watch that. I know you and

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Speaker 5: I fall in the similar age group there, Caleb.

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Speaker 4: Are you Is that one of those untolds or whatever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm familiar.

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Speaker 5: To the affinity of the old Portland Trail Blazers of

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Speaker 7: I've always heard about some of the controversies they went through.

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Speaker 2: It's some of the good basketball teams they had.

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Speaker 7: So I did see that, and I do want to

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Speaker 5: I did watch the Roy McElroy doc last night on

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Speaker 7: Okay, can I do you think it's too early to

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Speaker 7: shouldn't we let that marinate and bake a little bit?

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Speaker 7: But Kevin, he's gonna say, bite your tongue, sir.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just like, look in the.

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Speaker 5: Golf world right now, Caleb, we need some good news.

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Speaker 5: That is true, We need some good news.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I was on high alert driving those roads of Florida.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: Watch out, get some help and get us d Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, you were all froth in the

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Speaker 5: I need to think about the human more than anything else.

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Speaker 5: Let's get Will Haskett on Monday too. Sure, let's do

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Speaker 5: that as we preview Little master's action. Of course, Monday

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Speaker 5: get to. A Tom Crane coming up at nine, Caleb,

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Speaker 5: In the same four as last season. It's undefeated Yukon.

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Speaker 5: the four Elite eight games there. So we'll get all

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Speaker 5: chalk in the women's bracket here. Of all number one seeds.

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Speaker 4: Baseball wise, jes say Cubs, White Sox, Reds all winners

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Speaker 4: in their.

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Speaker 2: South Stewart for the Reds. Quick keep talking about the Reds.

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Speaker 2: Sure sure, Salstart would tell me about him. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's hitting the cover off the ball.

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Speaker 1: Lay.

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Speaker 5: He's get on base right now more than really anybody's

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Speaker 5: ever done to start their career with the Reds.

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Speaker 4: Solids start for Cubs, start at Edward Cabrera made his

448
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Speaker 4: first start as a Cub since getting traded to them,

449
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Speaker 4: seven to two winners over the Angels. There, Reds two

450
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Speaker 4: nothing shut out win over the Pirates. The Cardinals stink.

451
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Speaker 4: They lost to the Mets four to two. Sell the team,

452
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Speaker 4: they're terrible. Brewers get their first loss of the season.

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Speaker 4: Two they fellal the Rays three to two. Apples Indians

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Speaker 4: looking for their first win of the season, off to

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Speaker 4: an zero to three start, Hoping to get on the

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Speaker 4: right side of the column with a wednes night against

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Speaker 4: Columbus Clippers.

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Speaker 2: That's in Columbus. That's a first pitch of six point fifteen.

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Speaker 2: They'll be back at home on Tuesday, I believe for

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Speaker 2: those trying to get.

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Speaker 4: The NAT trust me. Yeah, we were digging out through

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Speaker 4: the garage. I found some beer bats. Oh boy, let's go.

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Speaker 2: We're getting close.

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Speaker 5: Let's go get a little dirt in the bottom of

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Speaker 5: those really big baseball season as we get a little

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Speaker 5: foamy beer in some dirt. Pacers practice today, they're up

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Speaker 5: in Chicago again. I still think they're in a comfortable

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Speaker 5: spot from a tanking standpoint. With two weeks ago in

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Speaker 5: the season, they could probably flirt with a winner two

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Speaker 5: and still be again in a good position at Chicago Wednesday,

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Speaker 5: at Charlotte, Friday, at Cleveland coming up here on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: We should have mentioned this a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 2: We did see.

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Speaker 5: We had Ronald Nord on the show yesterday, Finley Bizjack

475
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Speaker 5: probably their best chance at a returning player from last

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Speaker 5: year's team. He did enter the transfer portal, so you've

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Speaker 5: seen as you would expect a good amount of portal

478
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Speaker 5: activity for Butler so far in terms of departures. Port

479
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Speaker 5: officially opens up one week from today. I assume finlipis

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Speaker 5: Jack Texas kid. If I'm not mistaken, he'll probably be

481
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Speaker 5: looking at a healthy payday out there in the portal world.

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Speaker 2: NFL news to get to again.

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Speaker 5: Not a lot from a league headline standpoint out there

484
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Speaker 5: in Arizona. We'll see if anything happens from an eighteen

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Speaker 5: game standpoint today. But Mark, we did see the Cleveland

486
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Speaker 5: Browns proposal withdrawn. Remind everybody they had proposed having the

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Speaker 5: ability to trade draft picks up to five years in advance.

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Speaker 5: Currently it's just up to three years. This is to

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Speaker 5: be very much like an NBA rule. The NBA allows

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Speaker 5: you to trade picks in future years. And I guess

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Speaker 5: you know we debated this little bit in the opening hour.

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Speaker 5: I guess there are two sides of it.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 5: You know, the owners might say, hey, I don't want

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Speaker 5: to give my gms that much control the ability to

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Speaker 5: trade draft picks that far in advance. The counter to

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Speaker 5: that would say, from entertainment value standpoint, the NFL, if

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Speaker 5: there's one thing lacking, it's probably trades. So the ability

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Speaker 5: to do more of these trades could lead to a

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Speaker 5: busier trade deadline, a busier offseason when it comes to.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I could see why. The Brown's also won

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Speaker 4: trade five years. They're trying to get out of that

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson deal still there. If we trade five draft picks,

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Speaker 4: can we get somebody to take them off our hands?

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Speaker 7: Please?

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Speaker 2: Please get rid of that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, did I see a headline yesterday where like this

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Speaker 2: could be Deshaun Watson's year.

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Speaker 5: I'm like woo is saying that. I swear it was

511
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Speaker 5: Jimmy Haslam, the Brown's owner, which.

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Speaker 4: They have a Baker's dozen quarterbacks on that roster too.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk about depth at quarterback, the Browns

514
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Speaker 4: have it. I don't know if it's good depth, but

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Speaker 4: they sure have it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, definitely on that.

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Speaker 4: Somebody says there is a doctor Pepper Cotton candy flavor.

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Speaker 4: Are we just putting candy and sodas?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 7: They said, there's doctor Pepper. Peeps, I'm going after the show.

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Speaker 2: Peeps are freaking horrific. They are. I'm gonna bring some.

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Speaker 7: I'm in here on Friday. I'm gonna bring.

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Speaker 2: Some for everybody.

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Speaker 6: What was our act?

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Speaker 5: And that Luke Meredith just gave us BMF. You could

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Speaker 5: change that around to describe peeps.

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Speaker 2: I would just say BM bowel movement. What's happening? Well,

528
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Speaker 2: said Mark's.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is just I don't like the grittiness,

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Speaker 4: Like I've touched him and I'm like, texture.

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Speaker 2: Wise are horrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine Uncle Caleb coming over and, you know,

534
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Speaker 5: hiding some Easter eggs in the backyard, and all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden he throws a couple of peeps up in the.

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Speaker 2: Unwrapping up here you go, what are we doing here

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Speaker 2: like this? You got an ice cream truck around the

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Speaker 2: corner that you're trying to sit.

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Speaker 7: Okay, not the best, but it is Easter like you

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Speaker 7: you have. It is associated with Easter. And I'm never

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Speaker 7: gonna say I don't like peeps, Like, come on.

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Speaker 2: No, Recess told peeps to get the you know, what

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Speaker 2: out the eggs? Yeah, I mean pretty good.

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Speaker 6: I can.

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Speaker 2: I like both.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna look at you, that's all that's against the rules,

547
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Speaker 4: like my.

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Speaker 2: Body languages speaking a thousand words to you.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you wrote road trip wise. You were

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Speaker 4: in the car recently, right, road trip snacks. Yeah, we, Maddie,

551
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Speaker 4: did such a great job of Like we had a

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Speaker 4: six hour drive. Every hour you could open up one

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Speaker 4: of your little snack. Now again, we had some help.

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Speaker 4: You know, we had some grapes in there. You know,

555
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Speaker 4: you're trying to build as healthy as good. Dial starts tomorrow,

556
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Speaker 4: but that kind of helped the are we there yet?

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Speaker 2: Questions? So I found that to be really good. Grape

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Speaker 2: in the back up.

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Speaker 5: The garnetto garlic chips, I think those are excellent. Add

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Speaker 5: some cheese, it's what else? Did I have some peanut

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Speaker 5: butter m and ms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a variety of there. So I went

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Speaker 2: through my back Maddie, well, the beef jerkey from BUCkies.

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Speaker 2: I think I told you about it so well that

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Speaker 2: segues perfectly. You're opening up your backpack right now.

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Speaker 4: I was going to backpack because I knew, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was hosting together today I'm a little nurse of

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Speaker 4: all little morning jerk. I don't know if you're interested, Wow,

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Speaker 4: hashtag and jerk. There's some BUCkies there also. I know

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Speaker 4: you're a cream pile guy. Got a whole box of

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Speaker 4: pies from unbelievable cluster truck is coming later. I don't

572
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Speaker 4: want to spoil nights, but all that'll go great. The

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Speaker 4: chicken binge, a little road trip of snack food.

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Speaker 7: Oh, there's only one thing that would complete this if

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Speaker 7: we had Doctor Pepper.

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Speaker 2: Peeps you can find Chase, Chase some jerky and cream pies.

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Speaker 5: Find me in the handicaps still there for the next

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Speaker 5: twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Let's get through the show first before we're down in

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Speaker 4: peeps flavor, Doctor Pepper.

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Speaker 5: I do want to make sure we mentioned this, because

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Speaker 5: I know we mentioned it in the first hour, but

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Speaker 5: just thoughts to Jay Nivy right now. It's a story

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Speaker 5: that you never want to see at all. I have

585
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Speaker 5: not going to pretend like I have consumed these thirty

586
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Speaker 5: forty I guess even longer videos that he's had on

587
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Speaker 5: social media in some way, shape or form, I guess

588
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Speaker 5: expressing some sort of homophobic I believe some racial.

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Speaker 7: I had just seen some homophobic stuff. Okay, so I mean,

590
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Speaker 7: but yeah, just thoughts with him for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bulls waived him yesterday.

592
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Speaker 5: For those that have missed this story, you know, about

593
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Speaker 5: a year ago, he suffered a very gruesome injury, and

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Speaker 5: you know, I think a player of j Nivy's iill set.

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Speaker 5: You know, obviously any injury is notable, but you know,

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Speaker 5: he is a peak, peak athlete when he's out on

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Speaker 5: the floor, and I think it really hindered his physical

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Speaker 5: ability on the floor. And you know, he's been outspoken

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Speaker 5: before about his own mental health and some struggles in

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Speaker 5: that area, So clearly there are some things that Jay

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Speaker 5: n Ivy's got to take care of. You thought about

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Speaker 5: his mom a lot. You know, she's the head coach

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Speaker 5: and the Notre Dame women's team. They are very close,

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Speaker 5: very very close. I think anytime you watch Jade and

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Speaker 5: at Perdue, she tried to make as many games as

606
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Speaker 5: she could and balancing what she was doing there, and

607
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Speaker 5: even in his NBA career has done the same. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just thoughts of j andn Ivy and trying to

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Speaker 5: figure it out. You know, probably more from a mental

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Speaker 5: standpoint than a physical standpoint.

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Speaker 7: Right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely for sure.

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Speaker 4: I saw he was on Instagram live again after getting

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Speaker 4: waved by the bulls doing some rants too, So hopefully

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Speaker 4: he gets the help he needs, Hopefully can talk to

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Speaker 4: his mom, get his head right and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: But not a good situation, all right.

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Speaker 5: Coming up to the other side, much more on where

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Speaker 5: the Colts are from a league meeting standpoint. We'll continue

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Speaker 5: to hit a little bit on per new as put

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Speaker 5: a bow tie on that. Tom Crean at nine, James

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Speaker 5: Boyd at nine p thirty. It's the show of the Misfits.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Bowen, Mark Dyton, Caleb Zuber. On a Tuesday, we

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Speaker 5: are rolling into the nine o'clock hour. It is one

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Speaker 5: of the best weeks of the year, and for the

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Speaker 5: first time in over a decade, it'll be plenty of

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Speaker 5: fans infiltrating a great city of Indianapolis for the final four.

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Speaker 2: A man that has.

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Speaker 5: Experienced that as a head coach, and if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 5: I want to say their first two games of that

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Speaker 5: three run was at the RCA Dome. Let's head to

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Speaker 5: the Paylofts Lookers hotline right now. He's one of our

633
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Speaker 5: favorite guests. He's the former IVU coach. He is Tom

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Speaker 5: Crean coach?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? You guys beat Missouri if memory serves

636
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Speaker 2: at the dome? Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 6: We beat Holy Cross in the first game on a Thursday,

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Speaker 6: and then we beat Missouri in overtime inside of that dome.

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Speaker 6: A player that Missouri had, Ricky Paulding mister shot at

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Speaker 6: the buzz and it put the game into overtime and

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Speaker 6: We've done We did something that I've never been a

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Speaker 6: part of before since we went ten for ten in

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Speaker 6: the overtime and we won the game.

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Speaker 5: God, what a time to come up clutch there? What

646
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Speaker 5: was I guess let's stick here for just a second.

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Speaker 5: You hear this a lot about Super Bowl Week, and

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Speaker 5: I get the preparation times a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: But was did you.

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Speaker 5: Find the break in between the elite eight in the

651
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Speaker 5: Final four challenging at all from a head coach standpoint

652
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Speaker 5: in getting your guys kind of locked in come Saturday night?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think when we were in the practices we

654
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Speaker 6: were really good because we'd had a little issue between

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Speaker 6: Missouri and Pittsburgh and the Sweet sixteen with kind of

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Speaker 6: feeling ourselves a little bit and almost to the point

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Speaker 6: where we had gone as far as we thought we

658
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 6: could go, you know, with our practice habit, and that

659
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 6: wasn't the case. And I think we got shook out

660
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 6: of that after the Pittsburgh practice, or the night day

661
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 6: before Pittsburgh, I should say, we win that game, we

662
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 6: win the Kentucky game.

663
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 3: So we were really.

664
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 6: Locked into basketball, and so I didn't really have the

665
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 6: issues with that. But there's just so many people around

666
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 6: and it's so much more now because that was pre Twitter,

667
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 6: and that was pre anybody can be a journalist, right,

668
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 6: I mean, it was just it was all the networks

669
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 6: were camped out. It was a big deal, and I

670
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 6: think just the pageantry of it can soften you up

671
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 6: a little bit. And I think that's why the level

672
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 6: of practice, the level of your film study. As a

673
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: coach and a coaching staff, I mean, you can't get

674
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 6: off script or out of character on what's most important,

675
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 6: and that's to go into that tournament and be ready

676
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 6: to win. But those things didn't hurt us. We just

677
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 6: ran into a really good Kansas team and we missed

678
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 6: a bunch of close shots inside of that game. And

679
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 6: if you missed close shots and your bigs are around

680
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 6: the basket and the running game that Kansas had, we

681
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 6: just couldn't stop it. So a lot of things to

682
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 6: go right in those games, but the week of preparation

683
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: is really making sure that you do not get away

684
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 6: from what got you there, and you keep getting that

685
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 6: across as much as you can coach.

686
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: You were my eyes for quite a few of the games,

687
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: as you're on the call nationally for a lot of

688
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 4: the tournament, as I was making my drive to and

689
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: from Florida, So very much appreciate that you're also in

690
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: the building for the Yukon Duke game. Your thoughts, your

691
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: immediate reaction of the Braylin Mullens game winner, Well.

692
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 6: Obviously I had a great view of it and seeing

693
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 6: it all happen, and my initial reaction was to look

694
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 6: at the replay right away, because we've got a replay

695
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 6: on a replay monitor right next to us. So I've

696
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 6: seen some pictures since of that shot that I'm in

697
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 6: the background of it. I'm looking dead at the replay,

698
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 6: but I wasn't as stunned as you want to Just

699
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: make sure it counts because in radio, the most important

700
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 6: two words are a layout, right like Once something like

701
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 6: that happens, it's the play by plays man's job to

702
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 6: just take it and run with it. So it wasn't

703
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 6: like I was getting ready to say something. I just

704
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: wanted to make sure it counted. And it was incredible.

705
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 6: And the thing that stuck out to me was just

706
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 6: how picture perfect Brayln Mullin shot that ball. I mean

707
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 6: like he didn't hero shoot it, he didn't fade, he

708
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 6: didn't shoot some cute shot. He shot a jump shot

709
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: and it was just right place, right time for those

710
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 6: guys with the steal in deflections and with Alex Caraban

711
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: having the presence of mind of knowing the clock and

712
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 6: knowing he didn't have as good a shot as his

713
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 6: teammate did, and that assist, as great as the shot is,

714
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 6: that is one of the most valuable assists that the

715
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 6: NCAA tournament's ever seen.

716
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: I think that's super super well well said, especially a

717
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: players accomplished as Caravan is. He easily could have taken

718
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 5: that shot, and I don't think a teamate would have

719
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: bad any That's Tom Creane, of course, he was on

720
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: the West with one call. And we're getting ready for

721
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 5: the Final four coming up this weekend. Let's go to

722
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 5: the second game on Saturday Night coach Michigan and are Zona.

723
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 5: To me, it's one of the more marquee matchups we've

724
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: had in the final four him quite some time. Does

725
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: your overall thoughts in what I think has all the

726
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 5: makings to be a great, great game.

727
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 6: Well it does. And to beat Michigan, no matter who

728
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 6: it is, you've really got to attack their big men,

729
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 6: and that that's what produed a couple of weeks ago

730
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 6: when they want when the Big ten Tournament Championship is.

731
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 6: They just went at his body and and they spaced

732
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 6: out the bigs and made them chase on the perimeter.

733
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: They ran pick and roll. Arizona is definitely physical enough,

734
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 6: without question, there's physical as anybody in the country to

735
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 6: match up at a game like that. But to beat Michigan,

736
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 6: you've got to do something different. And they're not as

737
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 6: good in the ball screen game A daimas certainly not

738
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: because he gets to that drop coverage, which means he's

739
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: just backed off the ball and he's and he's putting

740
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 6: a lot of pressure on the pull up jump shot,

741
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 6: or the pressure on him is what happens after his

742
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 6: man sets the screen, and so the Michigan offense is

743
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 6: at a high level right now because jacksl Lendenberg is

744
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 6: playing like a guard, but he can also play like

745
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 6: a power forward. I mean, so that matchup is really tough.

746
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 6: But Arizona has got is good of the eight players

747
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 6: as anybody in this tournament, and they have numerous ways

748
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 6: that they can hurt you. They just don't have the

749
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 6: bigs they can step outside and make three. So they're

750
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 6: going to have to be really good in the pick

751
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 6: and roll game, getting the ball thrown back to the bigs, attacking,

752
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 6: playing going at their bodies inside, and that'll be a

753
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 6: good game because if you let the big men roem

754
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: free for Michigan that they're really hard to beat.

755
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: Tom Creen joining us on the Payloss Ligers hotline coach,

756
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to forget about the undercard because a

757
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: lot of people are looking at Arizona and Michigan and

758
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: saying that's the heavyweight fight right there.

759
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to.

760
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: I think you kind of Illinois is a pretty solid matchup

761
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: as well. I want to get your thoughts on how

762
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: do you think you kind of Illinois looks on Saturday

763
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 4: after them?

764
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Speaker 6: Well, people just have to remember, and you're right, it's

765
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 6: going to be a week of looking at Arizona, Michigan

766
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 6: and then Yukon. Illinois. You can't do that in this tournament.

767
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 6: I mean, you can't do it in any final four,

768
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 6: but you certainly can't do it in this Remember Houston

769
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: last year had a huge lead in the in the

770
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 6: in the second half against Florida and lost the lead

771
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: basically because they couldn't manipulate getting to the foul line

772
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 6: enough and a lot and and shot a lot of

773
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 6: jump shots and didn't create a lot of contact. So

774
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 6: when you get into the games, anything can truly happen.

775
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: And Illinois and Yukon are definitely good enough to win

776
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 6: this tournament because you remember, you only got to be

777
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 6: better than the other team once and that sounds goofy,

778
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 6: but that's the truth. And so you just you just

779
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 6: have to have really good game plans for that Yukon.

780
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 6: For Illinois, it'll be like Illinois, who's already faced Yukon

781
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 6: this year and lost to them, But it'll be like

782
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: facing a Michigan State team or a Purdue team with

783
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 6: how much they run their offense and how much they screen,

784
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 6: like I think the screening of Yukon, and I said

785
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 6: this different times on the broadcast. It really hurt Duke.

786
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 6: It hurt Cambooser having to chase around those screens constantly,

787
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 6: because what happens when you're not used to seeing all

788
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 6: those screens you run into them. And now Illinois has

789
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 6: seen that. But they're going to put Illinois through more

790
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 6: screens than even Michigan State or Perdue do and they're

791
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 6: really really hard to navigate that. Now, can Yukon win

792
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 6: if they're one for whatever, one for eighteen deep into

793
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 6: the game in the final four and Indie versus all

794
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 6: that length and size and shooting of Illinois. Probably not.

795
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 6: But there's no reason to believe that they're gonna They

796
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 6: said they just missed a bunch of open shots the

797
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: other day. But I think that game is going to

798
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 6: be great. I think you're going to see two outstanding

799
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 6: freshmen and Raylan Mullins obviously from Greenfield, and Keaton Wogler,

800
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 6: who is probably going to go higher in this draft

801
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 6: than most people are even possibly anticipating right now. I mean,

802
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: I think he's that good. So it's a game of

803
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 6: great size, really good guard play. That game, at the

804
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 6: end of the day, to me, will come down to

805
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 6: the point guard play of Storyokovic and Kylin Boswell versus

806
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 6: Malachi Smith and Sallas Lamari Junior. Whichever point guard crew

807
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 6: had a better overall game, it's probably going to be

808
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: the winner of that game.

809
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 4: Tom Crean on the Payloffs Slickers phone line with us

810
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 4: right now, Tom, we're gonna get your thoughts on how

811
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: you think Saturday plays out momentarily. But I want to

812
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: get your thoughts on produced season coming to an end

813
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: on Saturday. How will you remember this era of Perdue

814
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: basketball didn't see a national championship, but you had some

815
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: pretty deep runs into March. How will you remember the

816
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: Braden Smith, Zach Edie eras at Purdue.

817
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 6: Well, they did play for a national championship, which so many,

818
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 6: very few people can ever say that, And so I

819
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 6: think that team did a fantastic job. I think Matt

820
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 6: is one of the absolute best coaches in the country.

821
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 6: I mean, he's in if you're picking, if you're using

822
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 6: one hand to pick the top five coaches, there's not

823
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 6: a doubt in my mind he's in that hand, and

824
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 6: he's a lot closer to the top of it than

825
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 6: fourth or fifth. I mean, he's just an outstanding coach

826
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: who understands his teams, understands what buttons to push, doesn't

827
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: get too caught up in the emotion one way or

828
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 6: of the other of the way the season is going.

829
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 6: And I think what he did after losing in the

830
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 6: Big Ten, after losing the last game of the year,

831
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 6: and then going winning that Big Ten tournament championship and

832
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 6: getting to the other day, that speaks volumes about that

833
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 6: group's resiliency responsibility. That they had to like each other

834
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 6: into that program to get over whatever was bothering them

835
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 6: or hurting them or keeping them from being successful and

836
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 6: figure it back out. And they just got beat by

837
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 6: a team that just had more than them the other night,

838
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 6: and so that was not. More often than not, this

839
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: group will be remembered for when they didn't win, it

840
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 6: wasn't that they lost the game themselves. It was that

841
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: somebody just beat them. And I think that's one of

842
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 6: the great things you can say. But they sure had

843
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 6: a heck of a lot more wins than they did

844
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 6: anything else. And I think at some point, I think

845
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 6: you would see some type of honoring for Braden Smith

846
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: that your lawyer and Trey Kaufman Wren where they are

847
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 6: honored and looked at together and deservedly so.

848
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree on that again, Tom Creane with

849
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 5: us here on the Payloft Sickers Hotline Final four week

850
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: Alive and well in INDI coach. Another year for Indiana

851
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: comes to an end without an NCAA tournament birth, without

852
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 5: an nca tournament victory, of course, And you know, I

853
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 5: found myself kind of looking back, and you know, I

854
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 5: think it's been six coaches since the Bob Knight era,

855
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 5: and undoubtedly it was your era that has had the

856
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 5: most success of any of them. And you walked in there,

857
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 5: of course under you know, frankly roster. Hell, what do

858
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: you think it was about your guys plan, your guys process?

859
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 5: Certainly a process that had to evolve from the first

860
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 5: couple of years that led to success that really no

861
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 5: one else in the program has been able to replicate

862
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 5: in the last twenty years.

863
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 6: Well, the times were so different and so there was

864
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 6: no way with what we dealt with would happen to

865
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 6: build an entirely new roster. There was no way to

866
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 6: get old or get big, and I shouldn't say that big,

867
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 6: get old or get really good really quick. You know,

868
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 6: there was no portal. There was no nil type stuff.

869
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not even sure we might have had

870
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 6: grand transfers back then, but I'm sure if we did.

871
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 6: But the bottom line is we had to have a

872
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 6: true rebuild, like an old school rebuild that nobody, nobody

873
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 6: would ever get the time to do anymore because there's

874
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 6: no reason for it. You have too many ways that

875
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 6: you can get your team better. The bottom line is,

876
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: we want wanted to recruit to build a team that

877
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 6: could win the Big Ten because if you felt you

878
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 6: could win, we felt you could win the Big Ten

879
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 6: and you could play for the national championship. And I

880
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: just think every step we took was about making sure

881
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 6: that we were bringing in guys that that were that

882
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 6: you could improve with, that that wanted to improve, that

883
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 6: had a hunger, and whether they were from Indiana or not,

884
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 6: they had the mental capacity to come in there and

885
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 6: realize Indiana is really special and it's a big deal

886
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 6: to be here. And you may screw up here and

887
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 6: there in your life, but man, nothing's bigger than this program.

888
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 6: And we really worked hard at that, and I thought

889
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 6: we recruited to that. And then our individual player development

890
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 6: of just being locked in day in and day out

891
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: to their improvement, you know. And I always saw myself

892
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 6: as the lead player development coach, right like I wasn't

893
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 6: I had other really good coaches, but I wasn't going

894
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 6: to miss those days. I was not going to miss

895
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 6: when we were out with one guy to work out,

896
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 6: or four guys to work out, or three guys to

897
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 6: work out. And I think over the period of time,

898
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 6: that's what it is. We kept a very very hands

899
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 6: on approach to everything that we were trying to do

900
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 6: in the program. And it doesn't mean we didn't lose,

901
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: and it doesn't mean that we had all great days,

902
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 6: but we were not going to leave to chance the

903
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 6: level of improvement that was needed to compete at this level.

904
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 6: And for the most part, a lot of times we did.

905
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: Tom Crean with us for another couple of minutes on

906
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 4: the payofs Lakers Hotline. Tom, We'll get you out on

907
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 4: this question two part question. How do you see Monday

908
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 4: night playing or I'm sorry, how do you see Saturday

909
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: night playing out? And then whod he's playing on Monday?

910
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: And who's walking out of Indies Champions.

911
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 6: You know, I'm really not good with predictions. I'm not

912
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 6: and I just don't I think there's too much uncertainty.

913
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 6: There really is. I would tell you what I would

914
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 6: be looking at in these games, and you really can

915
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 6: look across the tournament and see this to be true.

916
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 6: Like the other night when Houston lost the Illinois, they

917
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 6: shot two free throws the entire night. Now, Houston had

918
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: been in the three fifties, okay, and there's like three

919
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty twos. They're in a sixty three Division

920
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 6: one schools in free throw rate, which means they weren't

921
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 6: used to getting to the free throw line, right, they

922
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 6: didn't get there a lot based on their offense. Those

923
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 6: are the things that you look at. Who's getting to

924
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: the foul line all right? Where the points off turnovers

925
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: are Like a great example the other day Duke in Yukon.

926
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 6: In the second half, Duke had eight turnovers to one

927
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 6: turnover for Yukon, and I think the points might have

928
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: been fourteen to zero in the second half. And so like,

929
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 6: those things are real. Rebound margin, second chance points, those

930
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: things are real. It's not just about how you shoot it,

931
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 6: because the shooting percentages can get skewed by those layups

932
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 6: or by those runouts and rebounds. If there's ever a

933
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 6: time that the hustle game matters. It's the higher you

934
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: go up the ladder in basketball, and so if people

935
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: are looking to see who they think is going to win,

936
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 6: you've got to really really study those points off turnovers,

937
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 6: second chance points. Who gets to the foul line on

938
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 6: a consistent level. Another example Duke the other day. In

939
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: three previous games, they had been eighteen of twenty three

940
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 6: on average from the foul line, where their three opponents

941
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 6: had been on average five out of eight. It's crazy, right, Well,

942
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 6: Yukon got a couple more free throws in the game

943
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 6: than Duke. They end up winning the game by one.

944
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 6: Just those things are the things that matter, and I

945
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 6: focus on that more than who I think is in

946
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 6: my mind is going to win.

947
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 5: Should be two great ones coming up on Saturday night

948
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: and the man breaking it down for us, Tom Crean again,

949
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 5: you heard him on Westwood One and his insights have

950
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 5: been terrific to at the tournament and on these airwaves. Coach,

951
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, best to the family, and safe

952
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: travels to Andy Appreac.

953
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 6: Let me ask this, how did I do be in

954
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 6: your eyes on those trips that could.

955
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: Excellent you and Scott Graham were outstanding. I thoroughly enjoyed

956
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 4: the listen. It was very very enjoyable.

957
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 6: A ram his next level. I've been fortunate in all

958
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 6: these all these uh broadcasting positions to work with some

959
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 6: incredible play by play people. Scott was awesome.

960
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are incredible, very well done.

961
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 6: All right, Well, good to hear. Makes my day. Thank you,

962
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: thanks coach, Yeah, thank you.

963
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: That is Tom Crean right there on the Paylost Liquors

964
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: hot line.

965
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 5: You know, I I would say this even if I

966
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 5: didn't just hang with Tom Crean. He's one of my

967
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 5: favorite college basketball analysts. And it's a bummer mark that

968
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 5: I don't get to hear more of his games. It

969
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: seems to be kind of a big twelve focus, and

970
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 5: I know it doesn't he do a lot of Timberwolves stuff. Yes,

971
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 5: so his schedule probably doesn't allow for the Robbie Hummel

972
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 5: right type of quantity there. But I think he's really good.

973
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: You know he did I you Marquette. I think it

974
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 5: was earlier this season, and I just I enjoy it.

975
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: A few times he's been on in the Notre Dame calls.

976
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: I'm like, yes, I'm gonna learn something.

977
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 4: So driving to Florida. I didn't mind the law, the

978
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 4: late tip times for games and everything like that. And

979
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 4: I also really didn't mind it once I heard Tom

980
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 4: Crean Scott Graham on the call, because I'm like, I'm

981
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: getting good in it and analysis. Like I said, they

982
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: were my eyes and they painted a beautiful picture because

983
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 4: they were giving me great breakdowns and analysis every single time.

984
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: Fank you to Tom.

985
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 5: Crean for the insight as always, that'll be up on

986
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: the podcast. We had Luke Meredith, the high school coach

987
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 5: of Braylan Mullens. Fun insight from him on kind of

988
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 5: the Braylan Mullens story.

989
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: The recruitment of.

990
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 5: Braylon Mullens, I know is always a polarizing topic here

991
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 5: in this state.

992
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: So that'll be up on.

993
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 5: The podcast as well. It is the show of the Misfits.

994
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: We have our Captain not with us this morning. That

995
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 5: would be Jeff Rickard. You'll hear him three to six

996
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: actually this afternoon filling in for JMV. And we don't

997
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: have our rising King of All Media either.

998
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: Very disappointing.

999
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 4: I feel like we're, you know, we're floating without an

1000
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: anchor right now.

1001
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: We are wealth taking on waves, taking on water.

1002
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: Floating to be maybe not the best statement. I think

1003
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 5: we're struggling right now. We are swimming up stream.

1004
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 4: But we're the ss minow and jaws, and the shark

1005
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 4: is barreling towards us.

1006
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 5: I believe he is here, and he's probably like, dude,

1007
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 5: why the hell are you guys trying to make jokes

1008
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 5: right now? I got crusty eyes. This is the last

1009
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: thing I want to be doing. James Boyd's a good human,

1010
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 5: so he's joined us here. You think he's got to

1011
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: take on Peeps?

1012
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: Oh yes, okay, so James, before we even get into

1013
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: any of the nitty gritty with the colts, are you

1014
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: a Peeps fan?

1015
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 7: Trash?

1016
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: Absolute?

1017
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: Thank you?

1018
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: Okay, Caleb Caleb is on an island. He can kick

1019
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: rock My goodness, James, James, that's all we needed, man,

1020
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: head back to bed before the breakfast.

1021
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 7: That was a.

1022
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: No Caleb.

1023
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: Caleb was standing on the mountaintop saying he was not

1024
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: alone on this and I was like, I think you are.

1025
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: I think you were very much.

1026
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: They're disgusting texture wise and just taste. No, thank you,

1027
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 4: your your lips and tongue with crazy colors at the edge.

1028
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: He said, He's gonna go pick up some some what

1029
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: is it, doctor, doctor Robert somebody said.

1030
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 7: In the chat. So I'm gonna try those after the show, Pepper,

1031
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 7: I can save some for you Friday. James, I mean, come.

1032
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: On, oh no, no, don't poison me.

1033
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: No, I'm calling a cardiologist for Caleb.

1034
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 5: The last time Caleb gets an invite with James to

1035
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: a pacer game, just me bringing those out of his pocket. Here,

1036
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 5: James Boyd from the Athletic. Okay, James, you heard from

1037
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 5: Chris Bout yesterday. Is the Shane Stiken is the AFC

1038
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 5: Coaches breakfast today?

1039
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1040
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 2: Schedule wise, Yeah, it's in about an hour.

1041
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: I'll head over to the other very fancy hotel that

1042
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: I cannot afford, and that's what we'll talk to.

1043
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 5: Shame Stipens Okay, Ballard Wise from yesterday, the gist of

1044
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 5: it was, we tried, wanted to pursue, did pursue Trey Hendrickson,

1045
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: and when that didn't work out, we decided to pivot

1046
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 5: to depth. Is that kind of the gist of the

1047
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 5: you know, big picture storyline for the Colts this offseason?

1048
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. And you know, in typical Chris Ballard fashion, which,

1049
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: in fairness to him, EVERYGA was gonna say, you know,

1050
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: we're improving, we like what we did. They're not gonna

1051
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: come out and say, you know what, we're not doing

1052
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: exactly what we wish we could. But yeah, it sounded

1053
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: like they were, and onrede Hendercent he confirmed that. But

1054
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 3: at the same time, there hasn't been, in my opinion,

1055
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: an adequate replacement to that level of player or that

1056
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: caliber of player. Depth is great, but arden Key Michael

1057
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: clements two guys he praised and said, hey, we need

1058
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: their toughness and gradients and energy. Those guys to me

1059
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: aren't going to me needle movers when it comes to

1060
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: getting to the quarterback, especially if you look at from

1061
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: a hole just how the NFL works, you might need

1062
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: a dude, I know, he referenced. You know, when they

1063
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 3: sat the single season stack record for the team a

1064
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: few years ago, that was kind of a committee. But

1065
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: at the same time that was also I believe one

1066
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: of their worst years when it comes to a point

1067
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: standpoint on defense, giving up a lot of points.

1068
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 4: James and we were talking about it a little earlier

1069
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 4: with missing on Hendrickson and free agency and then not

1070
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: really having a backup plan. You're kind of putting a

1071
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 4: whole lot of pressure on Lot too to kind of

1072
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: carry the load here as the Forrest Buckner's coming off

1073
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 4: major net surgery and all that. Are you, I mean,

1074
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: if you're Chris Ballard, obviously he is confidence that lots

1075
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: can take up this load.

1076
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: Are you confident that lots of can can carry this much?

1077
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: I'm not as confident, But also I feel like I'm

1078
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: a pessimist, so maybe I need to be a little

1079
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: more optimistic. But he did say, hey, you know, last

1080
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: two lots, who is trending in the right direction. He

1081
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: had eight and a half stacks last year, he was

1082
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: closed on a few more. We believe he can be

1083
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: a double digit sacked guy. But my thing is, even

1084
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: if he is, what about the other side of the

1085
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: pass rush, what about the other side of the defensive line?

1086
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: How was that going to help things for laout two?

1087
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, even if he comes a better player,

1088
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: that's still one player you have to account for on

1089
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 3: the edge as a game wrecker, versus some other guys who, again,

1090
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: they're fine players as depth pieces, but they're just not

1091
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: game changers. So we'll see if the draft, perhaps you know,

1092
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: offers some solutions. He also mentioned JT. Twuey Molowau as

1093
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: a piece that they're looking to build on and said that, hey,

1094
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: he can be a really good player for us. But again,

1095
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: that's the guy who was a healthy scratch a few

1096
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: times last year and only played I think twenty four

1097
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: percent of the team's defensive snaps when he did play

1098
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 3: in games.

1099
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 4: James Voyd joining us on the Payloss Lgers hotline out

1100
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 4: in glorious Arizona, probably sipping a nice, you know, nice

1101
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: little morning tea or something like that. By the way,

1102
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: what is the pulp in the orange shoes? Y? Let

1103
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 4: you know it real quick? Side sidebar here? What were

1104
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 4: these breakfasts with the coaches and stuff like? Are these

1105
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: like the Master's dinners where they're like a specific thing

1106
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: or is it like biscuits and gravy and like bacon

1107
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: and all that a la carte?

1108
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: What are we looking at here on the breakfast spread?

1109
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say for the media and our breakfast

1110
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: that we get is not the same as the one

1111
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: that carl Ers Gordon is probably eating this morning. But

1112
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: you know it's typical. Hey, Marky, if you've done a

1113
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: few muffins and some bacon, hopefully no limp bacon. Kevin Well,

1114
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: last night was the annual media party slash. You know,

1115
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 3: everybody comes parties, so yeah, all the coaches, their gems,

1116
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 3: their families, a couple play. Odell Beckham Junior was out

1117
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: there yesterday and the food at that was immaculate. I

1118
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: definitely ate a lot more. I probably should have, but

1119
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: again I don't think it to myself. I will not

1120
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: be paying for anything like this in the near future,

1121
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: so let get it wat it's free.

1122
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, more caviar this way from mister Boyd. Was

1123
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: this the anniversary of you almost tripping Serena Williams?

1124
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I definitely had the head of the pool

1125
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: this year, Kevin, And I'll stick to myself all right.

1126
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: If anybody has their back turn, you know, just make

1127
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: sure you look a little bit to make sure they're

1128
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: not exactly the goat before you ask them to move

1129
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: out of your way.

1130
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 4: All right, sidebar over Back to this Chris Ballard discussion.

1131
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: He talked about Anthony Richardson kind of left the door

1132
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: open as far as him being on the roster in

1133
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. It seems like the trademarket, there isn't

1134
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 4: one at the moment, So I mean, are you more

1135
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: leaning towards that he is going to be on the

1136
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 4: Colts roster when they get to training camp.

1137
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm still there yet, honestly, because the

1138
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: way Chris Ballace spoke about the quarterback position was a

1139
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: little to me contradictory, because in one vein He's like, hey,

1140
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 3: we like Riley Leonard, but we could also add another quarterback.

1141
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking to myself, Okay, if you ask somebody,

1142
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: what does that mean for Anthony Richardson, Oh, well, he

1143
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 3: could still be here. We believe in him and things

1144
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: like that. But I think they have to make a

1145
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: decision just point blank, is he going to be on

1146
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: our team or not? Regardless if we can trade him,

1147
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: And I think that there's the possibility that they can

1148
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: move on from him and possibly cut him outright. I'm

1149
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: not saying they will do that, but I think they

1150
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: have to consider it because to me, the big optics

1151
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: or the perhaps distraction of Anthony competing with Riley Lennard

1152
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: to be your QB two doesn't exactly line up what

1153
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: everything they accept this offseason. I mean, if you talked

1154
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: to them. They said, hey, right now today, Riley's our

1155
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 3: QB two. Granted we haven't really had an update on

1156
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Anthony in his eye and where he's that, but just

1157
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: talking to them and reading the tea leaves, they talk

1158
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: about Riley like he's a big part of their future

1159
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 3: with Anthony. It's like, oh, yeah, this guy's on our team,

1160
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: like wishn't the best, But it doesn't sound like, at

1161
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: least in my mind, he's a big part of their

1162
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: plans moving forward. So do you want to deal with

1163
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 3: that going to another season?

1164
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: Is it?

1165
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: Why keep him around? Possibly, if Daniel Jones isn't ready,

1166
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: I think that's probably a good thing to do. But optically,

1167
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: I just wonder how many times you can really, you know,

1168
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: get out on roll with Anthony and say you believe

1169
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: in him and then not really get you know, anything materialized.

1170
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: And that's the voice James Boyd.

1171
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 5: Of course you hear him on these air waves and

1172
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 5: he's out in Phoenix right now, little breakfast with Shane

1173
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 5: Stike and upcoming the league's annual meetings. James, you tweeted

1174
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 5: out and obviously he's got stories up on the Athletic

1175
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 5: but you tweeted out yesterday kind of some takeaways from

1176
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 5: Chris and you mentioned one of those being Chris Power

1177
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: believes Daniel Jones can be even better in twenty twenty

1178
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 5: six or another year in Shane stike In's system. Is

1179
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 5: that purely from like the mental acumen of just like

1180
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 5: being in an offense for an additional year, because you know,

1181
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 5: he is losing one of his top white outs and

1182
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 5: he is coming off with torn A Keeley, So I'm

1183
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: just curious if he added any kind of color around that.

1184
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's the biggest takeaway over the

1185
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 3: last couple of days in regards to Daniel is Carlie

1186
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: Ersa Gordon Chris Ballard truly believed that, yes, he's coming

1187
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: off the Achilles, coming off the injury, but his chemistry

1188
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: with say psyching, will do a lot of wonders to

1189
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: help him get up to speed a lot quicker from

1190
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: a mental standpoint, because he already knows the offense and

1191
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: he knows what he wants to do in it, and

1192
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: so in theory, in a vacuum, yeah, you could say, okay,

1193
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 3: in another year in the system, Daniel Jones as smart

1194
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: as he is, hardest, he works will be better. But

1195
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: the pushback that I've had for both Carlie Ersa Gordon

1196
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: and Chris Ballard is that this guy is always hurt, unfortunately,

1197
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 3: and he's coming off a devastiting injury. And I wrote

1198
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: it in my story this morning. At the athletics, they

1199
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: treat this injury as if it's the housefly in the

1200
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 3: room versus the elephant in the room. And I'm thinking

1201
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: to myself, as optimistic as you all or have been,

1202
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: this makes no sense to me. This is a devastitting

1203
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: injury and everyone keeps acting like it's nothing. It is

1204
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: definitely something, and I think that's something they have to,

1205
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, consider moving forward. And so we'll see how

1206
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: the rehab goes and if he's available at the start

1207
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: of the season. But this is very, very optimistic, and honestly,

1208
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: it might be like just malpractice if you look at

1209
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: how things are going.

1210
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: It does seem like this season is turning into a

1211
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: bunch of hopes and wishes as far as what the

1212
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 4: roster could be.

1213
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: We hope Daniel Jones will be back.

1214
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: We hope he'll be like he was when we started

1215
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 4: the season, and the Forest Buckner's fully help. It's a

1216
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: lot of hopes and witches for my liking right now.

1217
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing, hope. It isn't really a plan.

1218
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 3: I get it. You still have, you know, the draft

1219
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: to get through, you have the latt sason of the

1220
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: free agency. And again I'll sit up here and say

1221
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: this last year, I didn't believe in anything that they

1222
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: were doing as far as the quarterback plan, and it

1223
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: worked out well. I had to eat crow for about

1224
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: ten weeks there before Daniel really got seriously injured. So

1225
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: perhaps it could work out. But I just can't sit

1226
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: here and say right now today you're a better team

1227
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: than you were, and you're trending upward when it comes

1228
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: to some of the roster management this offseason. So we'll

1229
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: see again what the draft brings and if you can

1230
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: hit on some players. But to me, it feels like

1231
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 3: you have so many deficiencies in glittering holes you might

1232
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: not be able to adequately address all of them by

1233
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: the end of this offseason.

1234
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 4: Well, James, we won't bother you tomorrow. You are free

1235
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: from us tomorrow, so enjoy order another steak and eggs

1236
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 4: on the company dime.

1237
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I got I got one more, James, You know,

1238
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 5: elephant versus house fly. I mean, honestly, the house fly

1239
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 5: can be tyreek hill in the open field. The house

1240
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 5: fly can be pretty tough.

1241
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I get that, I get that, But

1242
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: just imagine an elephant in your living room and then

1243
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: I think you'll be okay with a little house fly

1244
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: going around if you get it, great if you don't,

1245
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, it's not the worst thing

1246
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 3: in the world. But elephant, come on, now, you that

1247
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 3: will blow out with babies? Maybe announshant blowout. That's that's

1248
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 3: a little different.

1249
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 5: Last last thing, would you eat fifty peeps between now

1250
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 5: and Saturday to get front row tickets to see your

1251
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 5: fighting a lion? I? Oh, you've got four days to

1252
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 5: eat fifty This is not a hard question. Would you

1253
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 5: come on, James fifty peeps between now and six pm

1254
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 5: Saturday night to sit front row to watch your line?

1255
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: I probably do it. I probably do it, and I

1256
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: would feel some pain I think after doing it.

1257
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: Peeps, So your body is the elephant in the room.

1258
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 8: Brother, I know, I know, I mean, I don't know

1259
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 8: if they'll stay down in the body, but I probably

1260
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 8: do it. And I'm just telling you know, as far

1261
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 8: as Caleb, I love your brother, but I would do

1262
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 8: that because I'm trying see my team go cope for

1263
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 8: a national championship, whereas you are just ea voluntarily judging

1264
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 8: very hard on that. Like man, I know we have

1265
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 8: our differences, but boy, we will never.

1266
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: Shut out on that.

1267
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: I know they call him Indiana bones.

1268
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 4: But if he's down in fifty peeps, the sist corsit,

1269
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: he's getting two seats, one for one cheek and one

1270
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 4: for the other, because.

1271
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: You imagine, I mean, honestly, there's a lot of suit crows.

1272
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: Pipes of his.

1273
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 5: Apartment might look like the color of peeps when he's

1274
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 5: all done with those fifty ones.

1275
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: I know, man, I know James have a great breakfast.

1276
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 7: Brother.

1277
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 5: We appreciate you waking up early each and every morning

1278
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: with us here. And as Mark said, we'll chat with

1279
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: you on Thursday.

1280
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little double dipped. I'll be checking in after

1281
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 3: saying and talking to the boss man on JMV show.

1282
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: So in this afternoon at believe five o'clock your time, I'll.

1283
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: Be on three to six today Jeff filling in for John.

1284
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, James.

1285
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 5: All right time, guys, James Boyd, right there, you can

1286
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 5: find his work, of course, on the athletic We'll do

1287
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 5: it one final time.

1288
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, Mark Dyton, Caleb Zuver,