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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 2: It is yet another off season edition of Colts Corn

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Speaker 2: with myself, Kevin Bow and Eddie Garrison and I and

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Speaker 2: welcome to the off season. Welcome to the weekly cadence

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Speaker 2: that we will try to adhere to throughout the next

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Speaker 2: six or seven months. Plenty to get to on I

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Speaker 2: guess longer than six or seven months, plenty to get

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Speaker 2: to on today's podcast. Obviously, what Carli er say, Gordon

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Speaker 2: had to say, you know, we're coming at you. I

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Speaker 2: guess a day or two before Chris Ballard will meet I.

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Speaker 2: I you know, Eddie, I probably will. Just we'll just

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Speaker 2: kind of go early next week with Ballard in the

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Speaker 2: recap there, I think when Carly speaks.

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Speaker 1: So it's probably a little bit more of the pressing matter.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the decision is the decision, and that's what

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Speaker 2: people care or cared about.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to all that.

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Speaker 2: I do, honestly want to start with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of recap of the Texans game, because that's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of what our pod is all about.

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Speaker 2: I care about the games much more than I care

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Speaker 2: about the drama of the franchise.

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Speaker 1: How are you you know? I'm great?

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Speaker 3: I had a cold, like right around I had a

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Speaker 3: sinus affection really like right around Thanksgiving. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 3: rid of it, and now I've got a cold, a

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Speaker 3: head cold.

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Speaker 1: I do hear a haired nasally. I hope you're okay,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that does not last for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to stop me from going to

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Speaker 3: Georgia on Friday night.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Oh are you? Are you down there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: My gosh, I forgot that. You kind of flirted that

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Speaker 1: idea in my head earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, Yeah, tickets are we good?

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Speaker 1: We need them.

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Speaker 3: Tickets are in. We will be inside Mercedes been Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Look at that.

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Speaker 2: I think I told you. I think I told you

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Speaker 2: may over the phone when we were chatting about it.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that stadium last year. I didn't go

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Speaker 2: to the Colts Falcons game a couple years ago down there.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Colts Falcons this year was over in Germany. But

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Speaker 2: you know, there's only three levels to that stadium, and

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Speaker 2: so I think from a viewing standpoint, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And I think that'll be Memorial Stadium South. I'm the

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Speaker 2: guy you will have it in Dropes down there, so

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Speaker 2: that should be an awesome, awesome environment. Why isn't Kurtzignette's

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Speaker 2: name being mentioned for an NFL job?

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Is he not the ultimate CEO?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't know if he wants to

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Speaker 1: move up to the no. Well, that's a different question.

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Speaker 1: I think the answer would be no.

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Speaker 2: I think he's getting a lot, understandably out of what

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Speaker 2: he's doing, and you know it's a statuesque performance what.

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Speaker 1: He's done there. I think in nanl beat Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, I know a lot of people point to that

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Speaker 2: first game, and you know it's hard to beat a

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Speaker 2: team twice. I think Indiana's the most penalized game of

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Speaker 2: the season. I believe was out there in Eugene, Charlie

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Speaker 2: Becker yet to emerge. I think Oregon's got way too

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Speaker 2: much chaos around their coordinators situation right now, both those

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Speaker 2: coordinators taking new jobs. All the portal chaos is probably

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Speaker 2: the better way to put it. Having to juggle multiple things.

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Speaker 2: So I like Indiana coming up.

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Speaker 1: On Friday night, Eddie, if you don't mind, can we

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Speaker 1: start a little Texans game? Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Overall thoughts and Riley Lennon's performance. I was impressed.

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Speaker 2: I was, And to be clear, I was impressed because

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Speaker 2: if you would tell me Riley Leonard had a B plus,

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Speaker 2: would have said, oh, I assume he made many, many,

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Speaker 2: many plays with his legs. He definitely made some plays

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Speaker 1: Questioned with him. And I thought he did it. I

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Speaker 2: I thought he did in the first half when Houston

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Speaker 2: starters were still in the game. Sure, in the second

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at the game.

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Speaker 2: As a whole, he obviously had, you know, some plays

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Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna go brock party on anybody here.

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Speaker 2: All I'm gonna sit here and say is in September

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Speaker 2: of next year, if you need him, can he keep

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Speaker 2: with an off injured quarterback likely being your QB of

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Speaker 2: Leondard be that? And I think he has left the

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Speaker 2: still needed all those things. But yeah, I thought I thought,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was impressive. I didn't realize he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know some people kind of questioned his arm strength,

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Speaker 2: and that to me was never really an issue.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to the preseason, the ball

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Speaker 2: You go back to you know, if you want to

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Speaker 2: really seal the IU game back there in the playoff.

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Speaker 2: I to me, it's just more of a honestly, it's

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Speaker 2: I don't think you saw too much of that really

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Speaker 2: the game. It's just unbelievable, hobbing what oneint eighty the

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Speaker 2: was like, hmm, I wonder how it'll end. I know

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Speaker 2: you know, end with a six field goal here just

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Speaker 2: so freaking fitting and such honestly a microcosm. I feel

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Speaker 2: like of the cold season. You can make the argument

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Speaker 2: the ballad Era with their defense's inability to make a

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Speaker 1: And how cool is the fake.

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Speaker 2: Punt the Rico BeRTOS just touch to Moley Cox. That

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I enjoyed that. Should they bring him in

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Speaker 2: Why not any other game takeaways before we mercifully move

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Speaker 2: on to what.

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Speaker 3: Is You've got to retain Alec Peerce, like you have

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Speaker 3: to do anything and everything in your power to retain him. Now,

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Speaker 3: like the season that he had, I forget the exact number, KB,

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: I think that is right. Deshaun Jackson, I know, is

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Speaker 2: as the game. I know I tweeted it out, but again,

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Speaker 2: at an eighth grade dance than there was with Mike

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Speaker 2: Alec Pearson that official on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That was utterly pathetic.

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Speaker 3: That he mean, Kevin Bowen wasn't just like the stud

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Speaker 2: It was like, Okay, if I picked that nose while

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the first thought. That was amazing that he

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, we had this conversation for at

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Speaker 2: the start of the year, Eddie, and I think even

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Speaker 1: Who do you fear more?

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Speaker 2: If you're a defense piercer Pittman? And to me, the

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Speaker 2: thought was pure, who's easier to replace? Let's play that game.

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Speaker 2: Are there more pierces out in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Or are there more.

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Speaker 2: Pittmans out in the NFL? There's more Pittmans. So to me,

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Speaker 2: this is a and now walking season play out. It

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Speaker 2: is an absolute no brainer. Now having said that, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the off season debates more and more

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Speaker 2: in the coming weeks. Eddie, if you were to let

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman go wide receiver, skyrockets on your needless though

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Speaker 1: I mean you would have what Pearson downs as your

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Speaker 1: wideouts for next year. Duel in dueling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you know, again, I still think you

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Speaker 2: want another You know, this is where the Ady Mitchell

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Speaker 2: that's just something to certainly keep in mind. It wouldn't

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Speaker 2: skyrocket to the top of the list, but it would

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Speaker 1: But yes, Alec Peerce is and honestly, Edie, I think

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Speaker 1: he's worth worth the franchise tag. Yep, it's twenty eight mil.

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Speaker 1: And I know we get into, hey, does he want

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag on him? What is there for?

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Speaker 2: I don't see hold in hold out happening here. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think there are some nice things that you know,

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Speaker 2: he certainly likes about the Indian Aia midwst kidd all

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Speaker 2: that you know, Daniel Jones, et cetera, et cetera. But yeah, uh,

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Speaker 2: we move on to the matter at hand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna make one other mention, just Pittman is

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Speaker 3: do twenty nine million. That's the most out of any

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Speaker 3: player that is currently under contract for the Colts next year,

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Speaker 3: and he hasn't played anywhere to twenty nine million. And

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Speaker 3: if they were to release him, I believe there's only

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Speaker 3: five million and dead kap left behind. So you could

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Speaker 3: see why they would entertain it, but there would have

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Speaker 3: they release them and then bring them back on a

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Speaker 3: cheaper deal. I'm not sure what it would look like

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Speaker 2: an approach from Chris Ballard. I think that was a

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Speaker 2: big reason why. I think his attempt to do things differently,

437
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Speaker 2: I think was a big reason why. You are, you know,

438
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Speaker 2: having this be a runback. You know, the urgency is

439
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 2: going to be higher. That was a very popular phrase

440
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Speaker 2: yesterday from her. You know, it wasn't met with black

441
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Speaker 2: and white playoffs are bust. I assume that is what

442
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Speaker 2: is happening here. It is a playoff or bust mandates.

443
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Speaker 2: I am also met with.

444
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Speaker 1: This, Eddie, even though she didn't flat out say it.

445
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Speaker 1: I again, that's my assumption on that you know urgency.

446
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Speaker 2: You know, at one point she said the phrase, and

447
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but I think this is right.

448
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: She goes, the urgency is going to be higher than

449
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Speaker 2: last year, and I'm thinking to myself, why wasn't it

450
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Speaker 2: high last year? Yep, go back to the numbers I

451
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Speaker 2: said earlier in the podcast eleven eight to five. Those

452
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,719
Speaker 2: numbers were ten seven four last year, ten years out

453
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Speaker 2: of vision title, seven years without a playoff one four

454
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Speaker 2: year years without a playoff appearance. Why wasn't it high

455
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Speaker 2: after year six or seven or eight? Why did it

456
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Speaker 2: have to get to year nine for it to be high?

457
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Speaker 2: That is one where I really struggle with and also

458
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Speaker 2: to you know, when you hear when we sat here

459
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Speaker 2: Eddie last week last year, first week of January, I

460
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: think it was pretty obvious that two things were about

461
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Speaker 2: to happen for the Colts. Gus Bradley was about to

462
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Speaker 2: get fired, and the change in defensive philosophy was going

463
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Speaker 2: to happen. And Chris Bowd is going to finally change

464
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: his ways in free agency. As we sit here, first

465
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Speaker 2: week of January twenty twenty six, I don't see those

466
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Speaker 2: crystal clear changes. What would you put as one and

467
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Speaker 2: two on the list, because I don't see it that

468
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 2: obviously for the franchise right now, I think it is

469
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: purely plan versus stressing evergency, plan versus stressing eurgency. To me,

470
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: the plan is we're going to run it back and

471
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Speaker 2: hope for good health. And I don't know, maybe there's

472
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Speaker 2: more to it, maybe that he's going to cut some

473
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Speaker 2: veterans and whatever, he's going to add some defensive linemen

474
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Speaker 2: and free agency and retool the front seven. But like like,

475
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Speaker 2: I don't think Louisna Rumo is getting fired. I don't

476
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 2: think Jim Bob Cooter is getting fired. No, I don't

477
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: think you're having an immense amount of roster turnover per se.

478
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Speaker 3: Well, Charlie Partridge is going back to the college drinks, so.

479
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Speaker 2: Right, But again I don't. I think it's unfair to

480
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 2: blame him for the defensive line issues. So it's been

481
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: there for two years, so I don't. I think it's, Hey,

482
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: we're going to stress curtaincy and that means we're gonna

483
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: we need to win and finish games better.

484
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Speaker 3: This was Carly Ersay Gordon yesterday when she was asked,

485
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Speaker 3: when you hear eleven years no division titles, eight years

486
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: no playoff points, in five years without a playoff appearance,

487
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: what goes through your mind? This is Carly's response, Well,

488
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: like I said, I'm pissed about that. But also I

489
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Speaker 3: think that's where the sense of urgency has to go up,

490
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Speaker 3: because I think, especially this year, we have we solved

491
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: a lot of the issues on our roster, and I

492
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Speaker 3: think that's what I think is really encouraging about next

493
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 3: season is that we are in a position we need

494
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Speaker 3: to learn how to face adversity better, but we're in

495
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Speaker 3: a great position to succeed. And when I hear that

496
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Speaker 3: quote and I look at their opponents, Kevin for next year,

497
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Speaker 3: it's like, well, you better figure out how to finish

498
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Speaker 3: because some of these teams that you've got, especially at

499
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 3: the home part of your schedule next year, are playoff

500
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Speaker 3: teams and you're gonna have to be able to finish

501
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Speaker 3: those games against those teams well.

502
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Speaker 1: And again, this is what happens.

503
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Speaker 2: Eddie on the running back and there's a couple other

504
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Speaker 2: Carly items I want to get to here before we

505
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Speaker 2: move to Twitter questions. But in regards to the run

506
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Speaker 2: it back thought, you are running it back with the

507
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: thought that Daniel Jones, DeForest Buckner and or Teveri's Ward

508
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: are big parts in that. And right now, Eddie, on

509
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Speaker 2: January sixth, I sit here, and there are some very

510
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: difficult questions in regards to those three players. In my mind.

511
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Speaker 2: For Jones, he plays the most important position in sports.

512
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: You're banking on him recovering from one of the toughest

513
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Speaker 2: injuries in sports. You're banking on him doing it less

514
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: than a year. And again, I'll reiterate this throughout the offseason.

515
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Speaker 2: There's two Daniel Jones questions for me entering next year.

516
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Speaker 2: One when can he play?

517
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Speaker 1: Two?

518
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Speaker 2: When can he move? On Sundays? We saw it this year.

519
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: He can't be Philip Rivers in the pocket, so you

520
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: need him to move. The Colts won one game since Halloween.

521
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: What was a major reason why they won that one game?

522
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Speaker 3: That was the game where he had the scramble on

523
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Speaker 3: thirty in a mile, and.

524
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Speaker 1: He had several other key scrambles in that game.

525
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Speaker 2: It's a huge What I mean I go over this,

526
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, time and time again when we have had

527
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Speaker 2: this quarterback debate of you know, how would you mold

528
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: your ideal quarterback? Yes, operating from the pocket is paramount,

529
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: but the ability to make a play.

530
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Speaker 1: Or two with your legs is huge.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen to Kurtz Signetti described Fernanda Mendoz and the

532
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: Rose Bull his ability to create four or five first downs.

533
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be huge on Friday again against Oregon's d line. So,

534
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Speaker 2: you know, that is something that I think is a

535
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Speaker 2: question with Jones. Okay, is he playing on October first?

536
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Speaker 1: That's great? Is he playing September first? That's great? But

537
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: when can he move? Yeah?

538
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 2: Because if it's not till November first? Okay, what does

539
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: that mean for Tyler Warren? What does it mean for

540
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor? What does it mean for this offense? You know,

541
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Speaker 2: again having a little bit more dynamic nature to it. Obviously,

542
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Speaker 2: when you move on from Jones, Eddie, you go to

543
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Forest Buckner next. We're talking next surgery for a thirty

544
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Speaker 2: one year old. Buckner's words just sounded a little different

545
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Speaker 2: to me this season.

546
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Speaker 1: They did.

547
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's retirement sounding, but they just sounded

548
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: a little different, and does that affect him at all

549
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: coming up next season? And then lastly, just the beyond

550
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: unfortunate situation with various ward and for those that missed

551
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: the locker room clean out comments from him on Monday,

552
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Speaker 2: it did not sound like a guy that's gonna play

553
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Speaker 2: football next year.

554
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Speaker 1: You know, neither did his Instagram post, right.

555
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you hear him say my dad wants

556
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: me to retire, I've made a lot of money, I've

557
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: achieved everything I want to in the NFL Super Bowl,

558
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: All Pro, it's a hell of a story. Dude's made

559
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Speaker 2: nearly seventy million dollars as an undrafted free agent.

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's twenty nine years old. Why does he need

561
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Speaker 1: to keep playing? He doesn't need to.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the comment that maybe stood out to me

563
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: the most was him mentioning how a few weeks back

564
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: he ran into something and that led to another headache.

565
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess some people just whatever affects them more.

566
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Speaker 1: And I mean, I think at this point it'd be

567
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: crazy to expect him to be back there.

568
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: And he also said yesterday more or less, as soon

569
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Speaker 2: as I have another concussion, I will be done.

570
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know, if that's your thought process.

571
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, given how the game in the NFL works, you

572
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: can't just bank on him being back out there. So again,

573
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: those are three key ingredients to the running back, key

574
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: ingredients to the running back. This is not you know,

575
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor's sprained ankle. So that to me, I think

576
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 2: is something that I do struggle with in seeing this

577
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: eternal optimistic view, not even looking at the schedule for

578
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: next season, not even kind of playing that general game

579
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: the AFC South, you know, is it more competitive now

580
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: with Jacksonville and Houston both up there? I guess the

581
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: other kind of Carly items before he gets to Twitter questions, Eddie,

582
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Speaker 2: it does sound like she is a fan of.

583
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: A little bit more in free agency. Yes, lining the

584
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: sauce gardener trade.

585
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: And I think that's an important element to remember, not

586
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: only for the Ballad era, but if the Cults ever

587
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: move on from Chris Ballard potentially the next you know century,

588
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: that's an important thing to remember about the next regime

589
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: of Like, Okay, that aspect of it she wants. This

590
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: is not just a hey, we're going to be frugal, frugal,

591
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: frugal when it comes to you know, March. One answer

592
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: I thought that was a little weird, was like, you know,

593
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: I asked her, are they tied at the hip?

594
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: And I believe her quote.

595
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: Was, what do you mean, well, yeah, that and then

596
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: once I clarified, she goes, you'll find out on this

597
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: day next year.

598
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what she said.

599
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: And I was like, I literally thought someone in the

600
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: back of the room was going to play the music, Like, duh.

601
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Doesn't that sound kind of eerie? Yeah? Yeah, I was like,

602
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: oh boy, I'm like, I got chills down my spine here.

603
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: And that's wy. So we haven't discussed that yet.

604
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: Extension with Ballard, Like, is that a something we're going

605
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Speaker 3: to do?

606
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: I assume Chris Boward will operate this year in a

607
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: contract year, I would, I guess.

608
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

609
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: So I think that's everything man. From a would you

610
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: think of her?

611
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: Her response is about when asked about, you know, assessing

612
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: quarterback and yeah, the future of Richardson, what'd you think

613
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: about those answers?

614
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, there's party it says, well, she's not meddling

615
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: in a public setting, but you know, I also think

616
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: she could. Yeah, she gave much more of a candid

617
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: answer on Anthony Richardson back before the start of the season.

618
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: Remember that.

619
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought that was a very interesting answer

620
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: on Richardson and now six months later, I guess she's

621
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: not answering those sorts of questions.

622
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: So I get what she's saying.

623
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: But you know, again, it's it's quarterback and professional football.

624
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: I think the owner does have a lot of say

625
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: in it, whether she wants to admit it. But man,

626
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: the Bengal card, it was about finishing, it was about

627
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: sense of urgency, and it was about being pissed that.

628
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: Those were the talking points. Yep, she came back to

629
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: that quite often.

630
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Speaker 3: Let's get into Twitter questions, Kevin. Starting with Jake, there

631
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: are some very expensive guys on this team that are

632
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: not producing to their price tags. Mike Equipment Junior has

633
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: been a non factor for much of the year and

634
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: will only eclipse a thousand yards once in the last

635
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: three seasons. Alec Peterce has grown and can do more

636
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: of what Pitt provides us, while Pitt can't do what

637
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: Ap does. Other players that I think need to be

638
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: discussed are Zia Franklin and Kenny Moore. Do you agree

639
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: with this list and would you add any other players

640
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: to it?

641
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

642
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: Jake, I would agree with that list. Those are the

643
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: three names. I think I even mentioned maybe last week

644
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: on the pod. I don't know, Eddie, would you you know?

645
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: Grover Stewart, I.

646
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Speaker 1: Don't you know, you could? I mean I guess you could.

647
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Bradsmith's a free agent. Jonathan Taylor. I

648
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: think those are probably the three. I agree. I don't think. Now,

649
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: let's play this out. I talked about Pittman earlier.

650
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 2: If you move on, you still need to wide out.

651
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: If you move on from Zira Franklin, you need a linebacker.

652
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: What's your depth at linebacker?

653
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Right?

654
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: We talked about playing young guys in the week eighteen.

655
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: You see how many STAPs jayl then Carli's got on defense?

656
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: Nope, as many as you and me, many as you

657
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: and me combined and combined.

658
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: And if lou Anderriumo's back, that's the same one that's

659
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: calling the shots this year.

660
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: So I just and you know Kenny Moore and Nickel.

661
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: I guess you could maybe play the Justin Wally card there.

662
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: But again he's coming off the torn ACL. So I'll

663
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: go back to what I said a little bit earlier

664
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: in the podcast. What changes are there for Chris Boward

665
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. That's where I'm probably the biggest

666
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: thing I'm torn on from this year last year at

667
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: this time last year, defensive coordinator had to change, defensive

668
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: system had to change, spending and free agency had to change.

669
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: They both did what what will change or can change?

670
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Because resource wise they're just a little hamstrung. The first

671
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: round pick is gone and you have money in cap space,

672
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: But where's that money going to?

673
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: Jones and Pierce? So that's where.

674
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: You've only got about forty five million right now?

675
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: So I ask this, Eddie, will they start to cut

676
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: some of the names Jake mentions and in the Ballard era,

677
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: correct if I'm wrong. I guess Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz.

678
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

679
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: But outside of quarterback, who have they said bye to

680
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: with substantial money left on deals?

681
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Not many now teams do this. That's not a foreign

682
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: concept in the NFL by any means. No. Plenty of

683
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: teams do it. But this operation is not. So is that?

684
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: And again maybe it's a ballad question for whenever he chats,

685
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: But that's a question I.

686
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: Do have no If Travlius Ward retires, how does that hold?

687
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: How does that work? Contractually, do you know, Yeah, I

688
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: believe I believe you would not owe anything else.

689
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: I believe that is correct to take a closer look at.

690
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: And again, retirements can get a little weird, and certainly

691
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: with this franchise, we've seen that in terms of money

692
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: being sent to said player. Yep, there's part of me

693
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: that you would like for Mooney to kind of read

694
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: the room too and realize, hey, you know, I've had

695
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: a nice career. You know whatever. I'm not going to

696
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: hold your feet to the fire. But you know this

697
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: is also out of his control. I mean, there was

698
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: party of your other culture, like damn he ran into

699
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Joe who train in his career changed.

700
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

701
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: I do the math yesterday for Jake Query's show and

702
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: put it in our prep sheet that we have that

703
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: if you got rid of the players that.

704
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Prep shoot, well, would you say, sure Jake really follows

705
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: that that prep shoot well?

706
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, trust me, he does. If you get rid

707
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: of the guys that Jake minched. So you're talking about Pittman,

708
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: you're talking about Kenny Moore, Ziyi or Franklin, you trade

709
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, You've got I think it was over one

710
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: hundred million in cap space, like that's how much Intiers

711
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: were retires. Like, so you go from whatever that number

712
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: was forty five to you know, it's an astronomical number

713
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: to where you could compete for pretty much whomever you

714
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: want in free agency.

715
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: But right, I mean Jones and Piers are going to

716
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: be north of fifty million, no matter how to however

717
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: you slice it.

718
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I mean.

719
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: Easily there's one hundred and thirteen point six million. That's

720
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: the number that I came to.

721
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Well, that would open up a ton, but obviously you

722
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: are now adding to the list. Now there is part

723
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: of me that just says you really have to read.

724
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: You know, if you look at the one position group

725
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: that has the most unknown for next season, Eddie, it's

726
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: probably defensive line, just based off of pure free agents

727
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Quardy pay Samson, have a Comtaquon Lewis, Neville Gallimore.

728
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: Now you know, again we'll get in. I'm not getting

729
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: in frenzy today. I don't.

730
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't have the energy to do it. But probably

731
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: as early as next week we can will. But that's

732
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: the group that I think needs needs to look a

733
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 2: lot different and probably throw in the front seven.

734
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: Luke chimes in, I keep saying, keep seeing that next

735
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: year will finally be the quote make or break year

736
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: for Chris Ballard given the expiring contract. At this point,

737
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: what does carly ERSA. Gordon even consider a successful twenty

738
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: twenty sixth season for this team? They've been so reliant

739
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 3: on excuses in abstract criteria for years now, it's hard

740
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: to know what the actual standard is. Does a ten

741
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: and seven record, sneaking in as a seventh seed and

742
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: losing in the wildcard round earn Ballard an extension? I'm

743
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: inclined to say it would.

744
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also glad that.

745
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: Luke brings us up because like you hear all the

746
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: players talk about you know, you know, Shane Stack and

747
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: the coaches, they hold us to a high standard. We

748
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: have such a high standard that we're held to here

749
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: with the you know, with ownership as well and management,

750
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: what the hell is the standard?

751
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: That's a great it's a great point.

752
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean again, they have accepted mediocrity. It's a

753
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: legacy of mediocrity. It's not a legacy of winning and

754
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: calling it mediocres cob bet Luke. I think it's a

755
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: great question, great, great question. I guess it's playoffs. But again, Eddie.

756
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the conversation we had, like is

757
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: it making it? Is it winning a game? Is it

758
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: winning the division? That's where I struggle and Luke brings

759
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: up a good point, you know, earn Ballard an extension?

760
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: I guess I'm playing this out of my head. Stichen's

761
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: got what three more years left?

762
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

763
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Would you then give Ballad like a two year extension

764
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: just to pair him up contractually with Stikeen?

765
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I think you kind of hear

766
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: my voice. I don't. I don't know.

767
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: I don't have a great answer there again, why wasn't

768
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: the urgency higher in year five, six, seven, eight?

769
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Who do you appreciate?

770
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: Really?

771
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: That's where we're at. Now, that's where we're at. But like,

772
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: let's play this out a little bit.

773
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: Okay, Let's say Daniel Jones, for whatever reason, is not

774
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: ready to start the season.

775
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: You need Riley Leonard for two games. Let's say three, Okay,

776
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: first three, Ryley Leonard goes one and two. Okay, one

777
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: and two not bad for Riley?

778
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 2: Right, fourteen games to go? Okay, let's say it takes

779
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. Let's say if those.

780
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: Fourteen Let's say it takes some six to get going going. Okay.

781
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: So let's say in those six he goes three and three. Okay,

782
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: so that's three and three. So now we have one

783
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: and two. Now we have three and three, so that

784
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: leaves eight more to go. Let's say, now he's playing

785
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: good football. Let's say he then ends the season going

786
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's say he goes four. We would

787
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: that be five and three? Maybe the end of the year

788
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: something like that.

789
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, I'm adding all this up. That's one

790
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: and two, three and three, five and three. That's nine

791
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: and eight.

792
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: What did that?

793
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: Would it be that far fetch to say Ryley Leonard

794
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: goes one and two? Would it be that far fetch

795
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: to say Daniel Jones and his early reacclamation goes three,

796
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: three and three? Would it be that crazy to say

797
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones then finishes the year five and three. I

798
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: don't think any of that sounds outrageous.

799
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: That's nine night and the Another question I have too,

800
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: is this, Eddie, what if you reverse the season? So

801
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: take this year. This year, you're running it back, because

802
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: the first two months of the year.

803
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: Where you lose whatever, what was it, seventh straight right, Like,

804
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: what if it finish saying winning seventh straight, because you know,

805
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: I do think that carries a lot of weight.

806
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: Maybe not to that degree, but like, what if Daniel

807
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: Jones I mentioned five and three here over the last eight,

808
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: what if he starts to look better but you go

809
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: nine to eight and miss the playoffs?

810
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Is there any part of them that sits there?

811
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: And say, guys, Arrow's pointing out, did you see how

812
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones looked in December? Didn't we always say it'd

813
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: be two years for an achilles. For those that can't

814
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: see the grin on Eddie Garrison's face right now, it's there.

815
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: You laugh.

816
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: But the only reason you're laughing is because you can't

817
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: produce tears right now because you.

818
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: Have a cold. Yeah I could, but I just.

819
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 2: Say, folks, it's the Indianapolis Colts and the year twenty

820
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty six we're talking about. Mediocrity's a right around the corner.

821
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: Just when you think it's the one person in the

822
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: office you don't want to see, right around the corner,

823
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: it's mediocrity.

824
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, here are the opponents for next year. These obviously

825
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: you have the three divisional home and away, the away

826
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: opponents at Cleveland, Kansas City, Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, Minnesota. Not

827
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 3: easy places to play by any stretch of the imagination. Now,

828
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: the teams that you have at home, obviously you've got Jacksonville, Houston, Tennessee.

829
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: You've got Cincinnati, Dallas, Miami, New York, and Baltimore. That

830
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: schedule next year is going to look a lot different

831
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: compared to this year.

832
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 2: So you got AFC North, NFC East, Yes, at Kansas City,

833
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: and a crossover.

834
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Miami's the other crossover.

835
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: Yes, well, interesting boy, I'd much rather go to Miami

836
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: than go to Kansas City.

837
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you there. Garrett would like to know,

838
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: is it just me or do you think others would

839
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: be interested in the Colts committing to Anthony Richardson for

840
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth season and keeping Shane Steichen. I

841
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: feel as if giving him one more season where he

842
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: starts healthy is the only way they could salvage the

843
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: current setup of the rosters, since it's still relatively cheap

844
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: and Shane was hired to be the quarterback guru. If

845
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 3: ar isn't it, then you can do whatever you want

846
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 3: to do. You can reset the quarterback position in twenty

847
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: twenty seven by moving pieces and hopefully acquiring new draft capital. Also,

848
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: would you rather see ar than any other band aid

849
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: next year?

850
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: I e.

851
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: Malik Willis, Yeah, Garrett, I understand Anthony Richardson question. Certainly

852
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: do Eddie. I think at this point he's on a

853
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: different team in September. I think that's the simplest way

854
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: I can put it. The best thing for Richardson in

855
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: a Colts uniform would have been changed.

856
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean that.

857
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: I know that's weird to say the people that drafted

858
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: him would be on, But I think the people that

859
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: drafted him are largely done. And I think if you

860
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: somehow got a new regime in here without two first

861
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: round picks, they might just say, let's just try the dude, yeah,

862
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: and if it's a disaster, so be it, and whatever,

863
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: we'll find something out.

864
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: On what do you think has gone into their decision

865
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: to be done with him.

866
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: I think certainly lack of trust and player, lack of

867
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: availability in player, lack of development with player. And when

868
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: I say this is not.

869
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: All on Anthony Richardson, obviously there was a plan and

870
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: a growth period that the Colts believed in in twenty

871
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: twenty three, in April and that did not happen. And

872
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: then also Daniel Jones, a rival. Let's not lose sight

873
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: of that. I mean, I think that's a big, big

874
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: part of it. But yeah, I mean I think we

875
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: had this debate maybe on last week's podcast Eddie. I

876
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: think what's kind of wild about the Chris Ballard year

877
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: ten thing is this, well, I can't believe it's ten.

878
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: I think it's the first time I said that out loud. Gosh,

879
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: ten such a big number.

880
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: It's a full decade. For those that don't know how

881
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: long a decade is.

882
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: You have the counting resume. That's how James Boyd has

883
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: framed it. Zero one two right, zero division titles, one

884
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: playoff win, two playff appearances. Yep, Okay, that's one. I'll

885
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: call it three layers to the Ballad resume. Okay, I

886
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: think that's fireable in my opinion. Okay, that's one.

887
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: Layer.

888
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: Two would be the Anthony Richardson draft pick. You get

889
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: a top five pick and it turns into what would

890
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: what do you think Colts could trade for Anthony Richardson today?

891
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: Four fourth rounder? Okay, let's call it that. No one

892
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: spends the fourth overall pick on an individual to then

893
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: three years later go eight and seven with that guy

894
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: at quarterback and that become a fourth round pick that

895
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: obviously is a bust in his colt's uniform days. Okay,

896
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: I would consider that to be fireable. And then lastly

897
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: you point to the defensive line, and.

898
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: Again this is the ballard, bigt m O, biggest belief,

899
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: biggest resources, investment, draft picks, money, etc.

900
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: Etc. We've changed coordinators, we've changed position coaches, and we

901
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: still can't hit on them.

902
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: So to me, you've got three different layers that would

903
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: fall in the fire ball. But yeah, I mean as

904
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: far as Richardson, no, I don't I think your quarterback

905
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: death chart. Next year, I saw they brought Seth Henigan back,

906
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 2: So right now, I guess technically, what do you have?

907
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: You have Jones, Leonard, Richardson and Hennigan. Is that right? Sure?

908
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: So you have those four. Assume you re signed Jones.

909
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Obviously he's gonna miss some time. You're gonna trade Richardson

910
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, so that would mean you need to

911
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: bring somebody in. So yeah, there you go. Those are

912
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: your bodies. Philip Rivers can throw it around the yard.

913
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: When you say.

914
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: When you say lost trust with the player. What do

915
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: you what do you mean by that?

916
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: I think the Monday through Saturday prep issues you had

917
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 2: with him a couple of years ago. I don't think

918
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: the tapping out thing is lost on people either, But yeah,

919
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: I would say mostly lost trust in it and a

920
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: little bit of trust in him and like playing the

921
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: quarterback position on the field, Eddie, go back to the

922
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: Baltimore preseason game. You know, even like it might seem

923
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: like a stupid thing in a game setting, but like

924
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: he was the one that had to play wrong when

925
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: he threw the deep ball a to Adi Mitchell that

926
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: ad Mitchell didn't run in. What game was that Raider

927
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: game this year when they both got in sure something

928
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: like that that was more on Richardson. Like just even

929
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: that stuff, I think is where I use the phrase

930
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: lack trust.

931
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Next question on today's pod is from Chris. One of

932
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: the big questions going into the offseason is going to

933
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: be why didn't Riley Leonard start from the jump With

934
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 3: the small sample size, he looks very comfortable in the offense.

935
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: And you can't use the injury excuse because they had

936
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: Jones playing on one good leg.

937
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know again, I thought Leonards should have been

938
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: the starter a month ago. That was just my thought.

939
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, maybe the record.

940
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: Wouldn't change greatly, but I think he would have given

941
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: you a higher ceiling.

942
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: And that floor offensively was just so low with rivers

943
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: so low, or that ceiling I should say, I mean

944
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: it just you know, dinosaur like.

945
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: But again, you know, I was very impressed by Leonard

946
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: throwing his second and third levels, and you know, I

947
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: was certainly skeptical about him leaving college from a throwing

948
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: delivering from the pocket standpoint, there's a reason why he lasted.

949
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 1: T'll pick one eighty nine or whatever. He did.

950
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: One thing I probably have not given him enough credit for.

951
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: And this would be something that we would have to

952
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: watch for Eddie when he gets into games permanently. His availability,

953
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: that was an issue in college, a pretty big issue.

954
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now at Notre Dame, he didn't even have

955
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: a spring practice, So you know, some people point to

956
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: his lack of passing success at Notre Dame due to

957
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: a lack of a spring practice because of his injuries.

958
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: But like, I mean, you know, whatever we saw on

959
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville game. You know, he reportedly got banged up

960
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: with the knee and you know then you know, even

961
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: times on Sunday he was favoring some stuff like I

962
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: just think that is.

963
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: He's not the biggest guy.

964
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean he's not small, but he's not Yeah,

965
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: I mean he's not huge by any means.

966
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, what is he six two

967
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: to twenty to fifteen? Yeah, something like that.

968
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: Also, I want to put this into context with Leonard.

969
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: It's not like he was facing the starters for Houston either.

970
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: Well, he was in the first half, I can hear

971
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: you out. In the second half definitely.

972
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: But look, I mean, there's nothing more overreactionary than a

973
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: quarterback making his first NFL start.

974
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: I feel like, and I don't know if I can

975
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: do this, Eddie, maybe I'll have everybody over to my house.

976
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: I can barely hold five people, let alone and three

977
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: of them under the age of five, let alone.

978
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: More than that.

979
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: But Eddie, I think a goal for a sports fan,

980
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: particularly an NFL fan, particularly one that like wants to

981
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: dissect rookie quarterbacks, we all should have to watch Peyton

982
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: sixteen game rookie season together somewhere. Yeah, we all should

983
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: have to watch it in unison and say we're not

984
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: allowed to tweet about it.

985
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you imagine watching an NFL rookie quarterback right

986
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: now throw twenty nine interceptions in a year? No, and

987
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: his team go three and thirteen.

988
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what the fan base would do. It's

989
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: in today's social media claim.

990
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: Right again, we can you imagine? And here we are

991
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: whatever now thirty years gosh, it really thirty years later,

992
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: twenty eight years later, and we're talking about Riley Leonard

993
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: in some of the wildest ways we could talk about it. Yeah.

994
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Well, and that's why I laid out those two questions

995
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: to start off the podcast. Don't mention the name brock

996
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: Party to me at all, just mentioned to me. Can

997
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 2: he keep the ship afloat in September ship ship? Yes,

998
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: to be clear, not holding my tongue. Or can he

999
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: be a long term backup for you? And right now?

1000
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: In that one start, Yes, I get the personnel a

1001
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: little wonky at times. I think he left that door open.

1002
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: That's how I would view it. Two questions left. One

1003
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: is from Mike. Do you think the defensive struggles have

1004
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: been more personnel or scheme related? Seems like we had

1005
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: the same issues this year with lou An Arubo that

1006
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: we had last year. In previous years with Gus Bradley,

1007
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: the pocket is always clean. There's always a wide open

1008
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: crossing route. And once the Texas got the ball back

1009
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: by two minutes in the fourth quarter, we all knew

1010
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: they'd march right down into field goal rage like always,

1011
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth?

1012
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? You know? Right now?

1013
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: With lou New York and Tennessee, those are the two

1014
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: reported head coaching interview spots for him. I I tend

1015
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: to think it's a I tend to think it's personnel based.

1016
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: I think it's it's just an amazing lack of a

1017
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: pass rush early in plays, especially off the edge. You know,

1018
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: to me, a lot of the personnel has been pretty

1019
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: consistent over the years.

1020
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: And you know, again, just some of these bets just haven't.

1021
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: And even like the non draft it's like you know,

1022
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: giving Quitty pay a fifth year banking on Samson, evicom

1023
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: off the torn Achilles, letting Denico Autry walk like you know,

1024
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about just the pure.

1025
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: Draft picks themselves.

1026
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: A lot of this is just purely you know, what

1027
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: you're looking at from a you know, again, a personnel decision,

1028
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: whether it be free agency contractually, Eddie, I'll ask you

1029
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: this again, Ana Roumo. We're a long ways away from

1030
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: this obviously happening. But are the Colts fans out there

1031
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: that want him to get the Giants of the Titans job.

1032
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure there are.

1033
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: So you think it's Is it beneficial for the twenty

1034
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: twenty six Colts if they have a third defensive coordinator

1035
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: in three years?

1036
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: No?

1037
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: I think that's where I'm at. Yes, I don't think

1038
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: the defense was very good this season, particularly timely, but

1039
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: I would argue a lot of that is rooted in

1040
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: personnel more in Yeah, just don't have the ponies.

1041
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, amen to that man, Right, you need some horses mutters, right,

1042
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't, by the way, one thing on Friday Night,

1043
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: I don't think Dante Moore is a good mutter. I

1044
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: think if you mess up that pocket for him, I

1045
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: think you see j Stroud a little. I think when

1046
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: Stroud has got and I'm not giving Stroud enough credit

1047
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: to be fair, but I think if you can muddy

1048
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: it up, then you make Dante Moore look a little pedestrian.

1049
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: Didn't they sack them six times in that first game? Yes,

1050
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: remember he had any had you.

1051
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: Like, not been sacked all year, and they sacked him

1052
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: in the first play of the game. I think it

1053
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: was something like that. I mean he had issues catching.

1054
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: Snaps the other game the other day against Tech. I

1055
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: get Texas text the lines good, but still uh.

1056
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: The final question of today's Pod Cavs from Blake it

1057
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: gave be made Christmas to you and your family and

1058
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: happy New Year. Outside of her new official role prior

1059
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 3: to this year, how long has carly erse Gordon been

1060
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: culling the shots?

1061
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: Blake, Merry Christmas to you, certainly happy New Year at

1062
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: everybody out there as well. Yeah, that's a great question.

1063
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you define the shots? I guess

1064
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: that's probably where i'd start. I would say she has

1065
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: been heavily involved in the organization for yeah, solid decade,

1066
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: solid decade plus. But you know, again, I think the

1067
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: ultimate decisions on whatever head coach, quarterback, you know, Jeff

1068
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: Saturday becoming the interim coach. I still think her father

1069
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: signed off on that. And you know, right now, I

1070
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: think you saw all yesterday's press conference, Eddie. You know,

1071
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 2: if you look at the three daughters, and I've always

1072
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: kind of viewed in this light, I view it as

1073
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: carl Ersay's one, Kaylen nursays two, and there's probably a

1074
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: little bit of.

1075
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: A drop to get to Casey.

1076
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, Casey wasn't there yesterday, Kaylin sitting on the

1077
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: side watching, and Carly's the one front and center, you know,

1078
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: answering the questions. I think that's kind of how the

1079
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: hierarchy is. But I get this question a lot from

1080
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: people a lot, and I asked Carly a semblance of

1081
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: it yesterday. That question was, are you was there any

1082
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: financial impact in this decision from paying multiple gms and

1083
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 2: head coaches, Because Eddie, if you are to fire Shane

1084
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: Steichen with three years left in his contract, if you

1085
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: are to fire Chris Ballard of one year left in

1086
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 2: his contract and then hire new people coordinators, you know,

1087
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: assistant gms, all that you're looking at about a thirty

1088
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: to forty million dollar decision.

1089
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: And I get it.

1090
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: I can hear people screaming right now they own an

1091
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: NFL football team, who cares? But I think if you

1092
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: were to rank the one to thirty two owners or

1093
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: ownership groups in the NFL, I don't think the Colts

1094
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: would rank on the top end of that, and now

1095
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: you have all this questions about inheritance tax and you

1096
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: know this and that, and they're selling all.

1097
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: These things and the spending and.

1098
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: Free agency, and again I'm not totally comfortable, frankly speaking

1099
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: on all this. Hell, I don't have a ton of

1100
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: conviction on my own finances, let alone someone else's. But

1101
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: I feel like, I don't know, there's just a lot here,

1102
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: and I'm curious.

1103
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm cure. You know, we've seen what Eddie. I think

1104
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: it's like four or five teams have dabbled in the

1105
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: private equity thing. You know, you're allowed to think ten

1106
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: percent in the NFL. The NFL has allowed that private

1107
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: equity up to ten percent of teams, with the Cults

1108
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: ever dabble on that.

1109
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1110
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: So these are all just questions that do race across

1111
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: my mind, and I am curious about it. And by

1112
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: no means do I think that, you know, they are

1113
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: selling the team or whatever they're going to become the

1114
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 2: London Colts to money.

1115
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: No, none of that.

1116
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: But it's just a curiosity that I have. You know,

1117
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: they're not this is not the Waltons or you know,

1118
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: what are your other megabusinesses that are owning. You know,

1119
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: the side gig is some massive, massive amount of money here.

1120
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: That's not that I mean, it's it's about the closest

1121
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: thing you're can get to a family business as you're

1122
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: going to have here. So I don't know, I'm not

1123
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: very educated on it to raise my hand in the air,

1124
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: but it is just a thought that I have. Yeah,

1125
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: And honestly part of it, Eddie is a little rooted

1126
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: in this. I don't think you can really mean what

1127
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: you're saying about Chris Ballard with a ten year resume, right, So.

1128
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: Is there more to the story?

1129
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: Like?

1130
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: Is there? Or is there not? Or is this no? No? No,

1131
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: Like I literally think there is enough on the nine

1132
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: year resume now going into your ten.

1133
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: He was clearly you're just evaluated for this one season

1134
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: and not any of the previous right, or the total

1135
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: body of work.

1136
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: Right, He's at a garrison. I'm Kevin Bowen.

1137
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: We'll stick to weekly pods here in the off season.

1138
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: I guess new cycle wise. I don't know, you know

1139
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: how much it'll evolve too too much here, but we'll

1140
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: certainly keep your breast. If we feel the need to

1141
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: have anything, you know, breaking breaking will do. I think

1142
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: we'll probably stick to kind of the Monday Tuesday with

1143
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: Ballard next week. Eddie, I assume he'll talk here Wednesday

1144
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: or Thursday this week, but I don't feel the need

1145
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: to maybe come back that very next day, so we

1146
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: will keep that going here. He's Eddie Garrison, I'm Kevin

1147
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: Bow and everybody. Have a great, great week, and we'll

1148
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Speaker 2: talk to you next week.