1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: So, Eddie, during your mayhem last night, one of the 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: things that you forgot about on the group text was 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: to remind me that Rabbi's coming on right. Yeah, that's 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: my fault, no worries. He's always a welcome guest of 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the program. He's on the Joba House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: We will get to Eddie's frantic evening in just a bit, 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: but Jeff rab John's joining us from peagues dot Com. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Indiana basketball with one left, and it's a big one. Jeff, 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: I'll begin with this a pleasure as always to have 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: you on. Do you believe that this game with Indiana 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: out Ohio State is a make it or break it 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: when it comes to the tournament? 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they have to win it, or if 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: they don't win that one, I think they would almost 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: have to win. 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: The Big Ten tournament. 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: So I think it's you know, if they win it, 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that puts them in. I think they're 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: probably going to need one more, but it would be 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: a quad one win, so it really helped the resume. 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think they got to win that one 22 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: or things get real, real, real. 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: Dicey, Jeff. 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: When you look at this team, and you know, Sam 25 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Alexis was obviously outstanding against Minnesota. And the one thing 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: you know, we know Lamar Wilkersons can score. You and 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: I have talked about this and Tucker Derees, you know, 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: when he's able to get looks. We know that Derees 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: can score, and he's been good on the glass as well. 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: But what is it that has given Darren Devrees's offense 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: trouble in terms of trying to find that consistent third 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: scoring option. 33 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really think the issue is the talent level. 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: The guys play hard, There's there's effort and intensity, but 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is talent level. Like, I 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: think the two things that would really help them is 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: a more dynamic guard and then you know a legit 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: post player, you know, big ten level guy, like a dude. 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: And when I say more dynamic guards, like it doesn't 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: have to be great, but more like like a boy 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: or a black welve from Wisconsin, people who can really 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: shoot it and really break down off the dribble. The 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: only guy Indiana has who can break opponents down off 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: the dribble is taking Connorway and he does it here 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: and there. But also you know he has some turnover issues. 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: You know, there's times where the passes just get a 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: little too casual. But I really think the biggest issue 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: is I just think it's talent level. You know, Connor 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: Enwright plays his Tayloff, give him all the credit. 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: In the world. 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: But if you have a top twenty five type roster 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Connor and writes the guy who comes off the bench, 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. So yeah, I think 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: to me, talent level is the biggest thing that is 55 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: differentiating this Indiana team from being a bubble team and 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: being clearly in the NCAA Tournament at this point of 57 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: the season. 58 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: When you watched Senior Night, Jeff Jeff rab Johns is 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: my guest Peaks dot com. When you watched Senior Night, 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: did it feel to you the same as it did 61 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: in the quote unquote old school style where you had 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: guys that have been there for four year years and 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: were ingrained within the fabric of it. There's a reason 64 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I ask it, and I'm not trying to lead the 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: witness here, but did you get that feeling that there 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: was sentimentality for the roster? 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: No? No, And I think part of it is, you know, 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: a lot of those guys that have been on campus 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: for nine months, right, you know, so it's kind of 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 2: hard to build, Like fans need time usually to build 71 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: genuine fondness and attachment and fondness for an attachment to players. 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: You know, watching them grow is part of what creates 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: the attachment to the fans. And it's really really tough 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: just to you know, develop attachment in nine months. You know, 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: you can chair for them, you know, and all that 76 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But I don't know, there was I 77 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: did not feel any sentimentality really appreciation for yeah, but 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: not really there was no there's just what any emotion 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: to it. 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: You know. 81 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure to work for the players. It's the final 82 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: home games, but it's not like guys who have been 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: there for four years. 84 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Here's why I ask it, Jeff, And I know that 85 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: you know Ryan Carr well as well. You and I 86 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: have talked about him, you know, the last time you 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: were on and I know Ryan, you know, we went 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: to college together, and I remember I remember one night 89 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: sitting in our apartment in college and Ryan was recalling 90 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: the senior night of ninety three when you had Colbert 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: Cheney and Greg Graham in that group and Ryan was. 92 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: I remember him looking off into the distance and saying, like, man, 93 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: that was such a special night. And Ryan Carr is 94 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: now the guy that is dually responsible along with Darren 95 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: Debrees of building a roster in Indiana. Do you believe 96 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: or do you think that can today in today's college 97 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: basketball environment? Will Indiana somewhat target players in the crazy 98 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: wild West world that we're in, Jeff, will it be? 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: Do you think somewhat of a priority to get some 100 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: foundation of roster of players that are going to be 101 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: there for multiple years that you can quote grow with 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: like you mentioned. 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, I think that is a very clear aim 104 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: and we're seeing it already. You know, they've got three 105 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six nineties all national top eighty guys. 106 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: But when you look at you. 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: Know, guys like Prince Alexander Moody, you know, good player, 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: four star guard comes out of Bishop McNamara, Washington Catholic 109 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: Athletic Conference out there in the d C, same same league. 110 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: Victor Oladipot came out of Lee Projects, is a four 111 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: year guy. So I think they're, you know, they're starting 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 2: to get, you know, guys who can be their foundation pieces. 113 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, and I know if I'm talking to Ryan 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: specifically about IU that they do want recruit, retain, and 115 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: develop to be a piece of the program. Yes, they're 116 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: still going to utilize the portal. Yes, they realized portal 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: is going to be really important next year because you know, 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: they just it has to be. You can't in today's 119 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: world just get high school players and have situations like 120 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 2: you did you know Tom Crans first three years and 121 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: Mandrew rebuild it all, but there was no transfer portal. 122 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, they're going to use the transfer portals, but 123 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: they want to get away from being total portal dependent. 124 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: You know the. 125 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: Program Woodson's last two years was, you know it was 126 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: it was totally free agent dependent and that you know, 127 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: if you hit correctly, it could work. If you don't, 128 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: if you don't get the right mix, or if you 129 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: get a guy or two who really is just there 130 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: for the paycheck, that can create problems not only in 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: the locker room but on the court. It's hard to 132 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: win that way. 133 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: What would you, Jeff, how would you in a perfect world? 134 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: And it's just such an ever evolving, you know ingredient mix, 135 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: But in a perfect world, if you were to look 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: at it from what you've seen, you would want what 137 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: percent of your roster to be original commit we're growing them, guys, 138 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: and what percent of your roster to be there transfer portal, 139 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: immediately able to get out on the floor guys. 140 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: I really think if I was I could wave a 141 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: magic wand I would want seventy five percent of them 142 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: coming from high school into my program. Maybe they transfer 143 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: in after their freshman year, but I would want multi 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: year guys. I would want to recruit, retain, and developed 145 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: to be to be three quarters of it. And that 146 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: way you've got really really strong culture, you know. I 147 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: think I think that's one of the reasons that Purdue 148 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: has sustained, you know, a high level of play. They've been, 149 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, a top four or five seed in the 150 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: NCAA tournament for I think like seven or eight NCAA tournaments. 151 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: You know, that's. 152 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Pretty significant as far as sustaining a level of play. 153 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: I understand they've had some upsets this year, but they're 154 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: upsets because Perdue was you know, really really good and 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: they got knocked off a couple of times. But I 156 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: think having a core is a big part of sustaining 157 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: your success. And I understand some programs have done it, 158 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, more portal dependent. But you look at the 159 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: teams who are you know, projected to be. 160 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: High seeds this year. 161 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys on those teams that 162 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: have been in those programs for multiple years. Again, I'm 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: not against transflers or anything like that. I understand the 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: piece of it, but I would not want to have 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: to if I was running a program, I would not 166 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: want to be dependent upon the portal every spring to 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: have a good season the next year. I just think 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: that's I think they get scary. I don't think it's 169 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a recipe for consistent, sustained success. 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: And I think it gets to a point where if 171 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: you have a couple of misses, you know you can 172 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: you can blow a year just by a couple of 173 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: portal misses. 174 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: You know. 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: That's That's the thing where I would not want. I 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: would want guys like that like Indiana's got committed Chase Brandon, Boncarvola, 177 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: Prince Alexander Moody, Trevor Manhurst. You know, those are kind 178 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: of guys that I would I would certainly target. 179 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: You know, Jeff brab John's my guest Peaks dot Com. 180 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: He's on the Java House Colebrew Coffee guest line, Jeff, 181 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: when you you look at Indiana right now and you 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: look at this season, and as the analogy I've used 183 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: all along, this is a roster that basically looks like 184 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: the TJ Max checkout line. 185 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: You know. 186 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean there's some really good bargains in there, and 187 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: then there's other stuff you're like, well, okay around out 188 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: the purchase. Darren DeVries had to put it together late. 189 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: I get that. I know they need more size for 190 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: next year. 191 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: I know there. 192 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about the areas where this roster 193 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: just has not you know, has had weakness. But stylistically 194 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: speaking and schematically speaking, what did we learn in year 195 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: one about Darren Devrees that is the reason people should 196 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: be optimistic about Indiana in his tenure. 197 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question, Jake. I think a 198 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: couple of things. One there, they're definitely going to utilize shooting. 199 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: And you look at teams that advance in the NCAA 200 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: Tournament and the mature of them shoot it pretty well. 201 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: From three Arizona this year is a little bit of 202 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: an outlier from that. But I think, you know, one 203 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: of the problems under Woody was they didn't take threes 204 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: at a rate that even really gave them a chance 205 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: to have good offensive metrics. And you know, when you're 206 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: out there taking long twos, unless you are the greatest 207 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: jump shooter in the history of the game, it is 208 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: not going to work. Your offense is not going to 209 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: be productive enough. So I think we learned that they 210 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: do want to style that's very, very conducive to getting threes. 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: You look at the shot quality metrics and they're way 212 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: up there. That's why as shot quality, I understand there's 213 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: been some games where they haven't gone down. There's difference 214 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: between you didn't make the shot and versus you took 215 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: a bad shot. So I think they hunt threes. They 216 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: take a lot of good threes, They run a lot 217 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: of stuff that works well to get threes. And I 218 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: think games like the last Game Means Minnesota shows that 219 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, they do have the ability to get the 220 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: ball into the paint. And you know, Samu Alexis has 221 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: had a good year, he's been solid. But if you 222 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: take that level, you know, if you take that that 223 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: position the post, and all of a sudden, you you 224 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: increase the talent level. You know, games like he had 225 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: against Minnesota. Aren't going to be you know, one one off, 226 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: you know, one of two or three or four during 227 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: the course of the season. You can have somebody who 228 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: can do it better or be more productive there. So 229 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: I think those are the things. And I also think 230 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: you know, Darren was on the staff at Creighton when 231 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: they kind of came up with the hole try to 232 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 2: score the first twelve seconds, you know that there was 233 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: a year there. I think they were going into the 234 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: n I T and they were tinkering with some stuff 235 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: and they said, well, let's try this, and it turned 236 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: out it worked really well. But you've got to have 237 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: a couple of athletic guards to that. 238 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think they tried to do that earlier. 239 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: They could do it with Wilkerson, but then they figured 240 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: out pretty quickly, right like, well wait a minute. 241 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: You know what I yeah, yeah, they're just not and 242 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, and Tucker to Tucker is very skilled, you know, 243 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: but he's not like an. 244 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: Athlete out there. 245 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: He is not. 246 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: And he'll tell you, you know, he's like, no, I'm a 247 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: vastual player, but I'm not an athlete. He just so 248 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: I think they would. I think if they can get 249 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: a higher level of guard you know, or multiple guys 250 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: you know, to where there's real quickness with the ball. 251 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: I think they'd like to speed it up a little 252 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: bit more. But when you don't have that, you just 253 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: you really can't run. It's like that old thing in football. 254 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: You can't call, which can't block, and so you can't 255 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: run if you don't have five guys who can run. 256 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: Jeff, there's a reason I keep bringing you back on man. 257 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: I always appreciate the perspective and all the insights about 258 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: Indiana basketball. And obviously you'll have all the coverage of 259 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament as well, and you know what 260 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: goes beyond that for Indiana as well as recruiting in 261 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: the off season as this continues to develop, moving forward, 262 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: to appreciate the time as always. 263 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: Jake always enjoy talking with the brother. Well, we'll catch 264 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: up again soon. 265 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: Appreciate it, Jeff rab John's joining us again. 266 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Java House by the Colebrew Coffee guest Line used the app, 267 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: the Java House app, and you can see their entire 268 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: menu there as well as their locations, their cafe locations 269 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: and before you even go in order ahead of time, 270 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: it's ready right there for you and if you use 271 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: used to code Jake twenty five on the app, you're 272 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: gonna get twenty five percent off your order. So I 273 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: was a little off on the time last night. On 274 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: our fan group text it was one thirty eight am. 275 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: I was wide awake. 276 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: I went and played Matt Taylor's Indiana Sports Trivia last night. 277 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: I actually didn't play, but I went just to soak 278 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: in the environment last night at the Bulldog. I love 279 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: the Bulldog. First off, that goes without saying would you 280 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: have one? 281 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: What's that? 282 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Would you have one? You know, I don't want to 283 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: be braggadocious here. Yes, although there was a team from 284 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Bill Brooks was there. It was good to see Bill Brooks. 285 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen was there. Kevin tapped out early. I understand 286 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: he's got to get up early. But it was a 287 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: ton of fun. Chiefs fan Steve was there along with Brenda, 288 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: which means their little dog Milton was home throwing a 289 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: party probably, but I was there. 290 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: Maybe with Boo. That's right, Milton and Boo would get along, 291 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: so you know, I'm there for that. 292 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: And then I see my buddy Bulldog Bill and the 293 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: whole group there and get home and just was taking 294 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: care of stuff and watching TV. You know, I told 295 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: you I'm addicted to this new British or not new, 296 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: but new to me, this British television show, that dating 297 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: game where everybody's naked, naked and afraid. No, it's called 298 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Naked Attraction. Oh and if you can get past the 299 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: lack of dental work, it's quite intriguing. But it takes 300 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: place in Britain, so at any rate, I'm sitting there 301 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: watching it and suddenly my phone my phone, and I'm like, 302 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: what in the world. I look and there's a desperate 303 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: text from Eddie seeking advice one eight am. Now I 304 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: noticed that nobody responded. I know I was probably the 305 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: only one awake. Jamie b might have been up, but 306 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: nobody responded to you. But would you like to please 307 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: inform the listening audience what it was that I was 308 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: your night to go awry? 309 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 5: I got locked out of my house. Okay, hold on, 310 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: I got locked out of my own home. How old 311 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: are you? Twenty seven? Twenty seven? I'm gonna make a 312 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 5: few notes. 313 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: Here, a couple of issues here. 314 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Don't and I don't mean to divulge too much personal 315 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: information about your life, yep, but I'm seemingly thinking from 316 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: previous conversations, you live within somewhat proximity of where. 317 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 4: Your folks live correct twenty minutes. Yes, oh is that okay? 318 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: I was thinking it was it's John that lives next. 319 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 5: Door, right, yes, Jamv and my parents are neighbors. 320 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you okay, so you were locked out? Now 321 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 4: is this a. 322 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: You do not live in an apartment complex and or building, right, 323 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: it's an actual house, actual house. Yes, so there's a yard, right, yes, okay, 324 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people. One of the one 325 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: of the common ways to avoid such a thing is Sullivan. 326 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: You know Pat Sullivan that we do the you know 327 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: he does obviously the show in w Guy any Soulivan Hardware, 328 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: amongst other places you can. 329 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 4: This is hear me out here. 330 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: You can take your key end and you say, yeah, 331 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: can I get a few copies of this made? And 332 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: then they put on it looks kind of like what 333 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: you had in wood shop, and a guy puts on 334 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: little goggles. 335 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: And the. 336 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: Easy wine and then boom they've got you got an 337 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: extra key. Huh. 338 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's an option. But then, and this is 339 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: where it gets tricky. Then comes the question where do 340 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: you place said, spare key. Now, a lot of people 341 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: they have a you know, friend or a neighbor that 342 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and you say, hey, just out of curiosity, 343 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: can I lend you know, I trust you. The problem 344 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: they're being eddy is we know you only have one friend. 345 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: That's your buddy, Alec. Now is Alec not trustworthy with keys? 346 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: He he is? 347 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can trust him with keys. Yeah, you just 348 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 5: have not given him this responsibility. I just have not 349 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 5: given him a spare key to the house. 350 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: Now. 351 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: So the other option is you can buy one of 352 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: these decoys. There are several of them. A fake looking 353 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: rock that seems obvious. I will admit that if I 354 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: was a bandit, I'd just start going around neighborhoods looking 355 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: for rocks. Oh look, there's a perfectly symmetrical rock that 356 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: looks plastic that happens to be sitting on that person's patio. 357 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 4: That seems a little obout. 358 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 5: I've also seen things on different you know services apps 359 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 5: or whatever, where they have like these birdhouses, and in 360 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: the birdhouse there's a secret compartment for a key. 361 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's that's good. Now, you got to hope 362 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: there's not a burden there that would ruffle some feathers, right. 363 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 364 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I were very very funny. Okay, so what 365 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: so what did you end up doing? The other option is, 366 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: of course breaking a window pane and then reaching in. 367 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: Then you run. 368 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: If you're in my case, on the blood thinners, you 369 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: could have a real problem on your hands. 370 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: So your your primary question here is how I got 371 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 5: back into my home and not how I got locked 372 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: out of my home. 373 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: Well how did you get I mean, I know how 374 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: you got locked out. You left the house, you locked 375 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: the door, and then you realize, oh, the keys run on. 376 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 5: I locked the door. Really yeah, this is this is 377 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 5: where the story is funny. I was doing somehow work. 378 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: I was cleaning up and everything. I was like, oh, 379 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: I got to take out the trash, trash cans. Foles like, okay, hey, 380 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 5: just let the dogs back into the house. And we've 381 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 5: got to Joey and Yogi. Yogi's a Corgy and Joey 382 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 5: is a Texas Blue Healer, which is an Australian shepherd 383 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: and a cattle dog mix. 384 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: And he's a mini and so Joey wait, wait, he's 385 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 4: he's from Texas, but a mini. That seems like I'm 386 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: not going to get it. Everything's bigger in Texas. 387 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 388 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: Anyway, so, uh, Joey likes to go outside. When fore 389 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 5: I go outside? And I was like, no, you just 390 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 5: went out the grass in the yard is what. I 391 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 5: just wiped your paws off. I don't want to have 392 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 5: to do all that again. So I shut the door 393 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: behind me, and so he starts pawing at the glass. 394 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 5: He gets down and we have detached garage. So it's 395 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: taking the trash a trash. Can I come back to 396 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 5: open the door? Door's locked. It locks you out. Pawing 397 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: at the doorknob to try to get outside, and he 398 00:18:58,680 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: locked the doorknob. 399 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well listen, that'll teach you, right. This was the 400 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: Texas fellow. The other one, the Texas fella. 401 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, have you been to Texas? 402 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: No? 403 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, people there very actually yes, I have been to Texas. 404 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: No. 406 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this or not. 407 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Texas was once part of a different country than during 408 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: the Old. 409 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: Southwest under James K. Polk. 410 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: It was annexed in the United States, but there was 411 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: some friction going on there. People in Texas very very 412 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: strong willed, very proud folks, very you know, what I 413 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: mean ranger types, So not surprising at all. If you 414 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: weren't doing what he wanted that he just said, okay, 415 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: deal with it. He locked you out, so your dog 416 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: locked you out of your own home? 417 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: Yes, he locked me out of my own house. 418 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 5: So I did call up Alec because Alec does live 419 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: within a close radius. 420 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: Of my house. 421 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: It's like, hey, I'm locked out. 422 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 5: I gotta wait for one of my parents to get 423 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: home from work to grab the spaarra key from their 424 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 5: house to get to my home so I can get 425 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 5: in my own house. He said, well, I'm at the gym, 426 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 5: but you can go to Chicago's Pizza because they had 427 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 5: nineteen cents you're Indiana locations. 428 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: He did say that. I did see him say that. Yes, 429 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 4: uh huh. Now let me ask you this. 430 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: Now they're not opening that late unfortunately, although I will 431 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: say for Chicago's Pizza, you still have thirty three minutes 432 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: to get in for their lunch. 433 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: But I do appreciate all the people that did reply 434 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: to my tweet last night and gave me suggestions on how. 435 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: To So how did you get in? 436 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 5: I waited for my mom and dad to come and 437 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 5: let me in with the spare key, thankfully, because we 438 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: had the detached garage. Jake, I had a spare pair 439 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 5: of shoes in the garage. I was just in my 440 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 5: socks when I walked out to go take the trash out. 441 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: So, wait, un one a time, didn't you moonlight in 442 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: a place that actually makes keys? Yeah, I'll be honest 443 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: with you. I had to endure nearly a decade of 444 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: radio with Derek Schultz. Yeah, and I thought at that 445 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: time I was working and I'm friends with Mike Byron. 446 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: This guy can't remember his passport when we go to 447 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: anywhere outside the United States. I thought those types were 448 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: absent minded. The doll I get you there. But there 449 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: has to be Eddie. It wasn't raining when no built 450 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: the arc. There has to be a plan ahead of 451 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: time for future reference. So we need to make sure 452 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: that we're getting this taken care of for future reference 453 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: should it happen again. 454 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: You know, one of the things that is I think 455 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: unique to this market. 456 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: Is you know, I've only so I can't speak to 457 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: it with totality here, but I have only worked in 458 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Saint Louis in terms of sports coverage. 459 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 4: But I lived in New York briefly. 460 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: I've lived in Kansas, obviously briefly, but also knowing and 461 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: having friends that have lived elsewhere in different cities. 462 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 4: The passion for high school. 463 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Sports in this town, I do think is unique for 464 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: a city this size that has the number of professional 465 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: sports that we do. And I mean this sincerely. One 466 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: of the most critical things of having a city that 467 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: has the passion for high school sports like Indianapolis or 468 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana does is making sure that you 469 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: have somebody that has their finger on the pulse of 470 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: everything as it's happening. And I can't imagine that it 471 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: would be possible in any other market to have somebody 472 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: that has a better understanding of the nuances, the personalities, 473 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: the games, and the storylines of all aspects of prep 474 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: sports the way Indiana does. With Kyle Edenrip at the 475 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star, I think we have lost and clueless. 476 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: We bring on Kyle Edenrip from the Inn Star. 477 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: That's right, and he joins us now on the Java 478 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: House Colebrew Coffee guest line. 479 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: Hi, Kyle, how are you. 480 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 6: You just diminished everything you said before that? 481 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: No? No, no, I didn't you did? Eddie, whose voice 482 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: is it? That's saying that, Eddie, can we play that 483 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: one more time? 484 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: Speaking have lost and clueless? So we bring on Kyle 485 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: Edrip from the Inn Star. There you go, I did 486 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: say that. Yeah, that's right. 487 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: Bad. 488 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't be throwing me out of that bus you're driving. 489 00:22:59,600 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: Pal. 490 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: Hey, here we are. This is your time, man. I mean, 491 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 4: you know, obviously high. 492 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: School football, we get the High School Football Tournament, which 493 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: I think is kind of underrated in terms of Indiana's 494 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: enthusiasm for it. But here we are in the midst 495 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: of Hoo's your hysteria. And one of the interesting things 496 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: that you have in the Indianapolis Star is just you know, 497 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: kind of like twenty takeaways, twenty twenty storylines that maybe 498 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: we weren't anticipating at this point. What jumps out at 499 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: you when you look at sectionals that you say to 500 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: yourself back in January, I wouldn't have seen that coming. 501 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: Boy, I would. 502 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 6: There are definitely some teams that have come on strong, 503 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 6: like HSE I think is a good example of that that, 504 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 6: you know, maybe we didn't expect. Honestly, going into the season, 505 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: I thought they would be a team to watch. I 506 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: thought they would you know, they're a senior heavy team, 507 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 6: but they also have a star sophomore Varshaw and Clark, 508 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 6: who people are going to know about if they don't already. 509 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: He's he's a big time Division. 510 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 6: One player eventually in a couple of years. But they 511 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 6: were kind of struggling along a little. 512 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: Bit mid season. 513 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 6: You know, they lost to actually lost to Noblesville, lost 514 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 6: pretty handily to Mount Vernon, and I think that was 515 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 6: in towards the end of January. And ever since then 516 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: they've kind of just taken off and they won eight 517 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: in a row going into tonight, and obviously they got 518 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 6: a huge challenge ahead of them against Fishers tonight. But 519 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 6: you know, that's a school that you know, they know 520 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 6: each other really well, obviously the same district. 521 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, there's not a lot of. 522 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 6: You know, secrets between the teams, I would say, and 523 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 6: they've played each other earlier this year, and you know, 524 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 6: there are some questions with Fishers, of course, mainly Jason 525 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 6: Gardner junior coming back for the first time since they 526 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 6: played each other but before Christmas, so that will be 527 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 6: a big storyline going into this game. But but they're 528 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 6: definitely one I would say that they have taken off 529 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 6: kind of rocketed here these last this last month or so, 530 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 6: and I thought played really well against Fishers. The other night, 531 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: Landon Oswald had a huge game. A senior lefty hit 532 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 6: a couple of threes in the fourth quarter and I 533 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 6: got them going and it was like, man, they were 534 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 6: kind of off off to the races there. But yeah, 535 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a fun. 536 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: Game tonight against Fishers. 537 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 6: And that's just one of the two games tonight with 538 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 6: you know, the Carmel Noblesville game first and not to 539 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 6: sell out over there at Noblesville, So that's gonna be 540 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 6: an awesome. 541 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: Crowd as usual. 542 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 6: I mean, no no surprise there that it's a packed house. 543 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 6: But but that'll be a fun one for sure. 544 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: Where will you find yourself tonight? 545 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 6: I will be at Plainfield, which I think is the 546 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 6: other you know there there's two that really pop off 547 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: the page. 548 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: I mean there's more than that. 549 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 6: There's a ton of great matchups tonight all over the state. 550 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 6: But for a doubleheader, and then really the first game 551 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 6: especially is one that you know, when the draw came out, 552 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 6: it was like, oh my, it's a pike in Plainfield 553 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 6: right out. 554 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: Of the gate. 555 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 6: The first game of the night tonight and then Ben 556 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 6: Davis Brownsburg should also be really interesting. But man, that 557 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 6: Pike Plainfield game. You know, two top five teams, I 558 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 6: can't wait. And they haven't played this year, so that 559 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 6: kind of adds to the element of the unknown a 560 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 6: little bit, which is kind of rare for sexual opponents. 561 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 6: A lot of times these teams their conference rivals or 562 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 6: you know, see each other because their neighbors. 563 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 564 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 6: These teams have not played this season, so that's gonna 565 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 6: be a lot of fun. 566 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Nenrep is my guest. He is on the Java 567 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. He is, of course with 568 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Star. 569 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: Kyle. 570 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: When you look at the beginning of the season to now, 571 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: what team would you say has most grown? 572 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 6: I would you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, and 573 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 6: this is a super talented team already, but I would 574 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 6: say there was with Pike. There's just a ton of 575 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 6: questions going in even though they're overflowing with talent. 576 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 577 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 6: I thought when they played Fishers back, you know, and 578 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 6: that was relatively early in the season. It was just 579 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 6: after the new year. Uh and and and Fishers really 580 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 6: for the first three quarters just completely dominated them. Uh, 581 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: it was not even uh you know, the defensive intensity. 582 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 6: I didn't think Pike was ready for it. And then 583 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter they kind of, you know, TJ. Davis, 584 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 6: their smaller senior guard, really kind of I think instigated 585 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 6: their rally and and kind of got them at least 586 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 6: back to where it was only a nine point game. 587 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 6: It was never completely in doubt, but they did rally 588 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter. I think since then they have 589 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 6: they played with the tougher edge to them. They've only 590 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 6: lost one more game since then. That was the Marion 591 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 6: County Championship against Lawrence North. They lost that game in 592 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 6: overtime without Johari Miller who had. 593 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: A concussion there late in the game. 594 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: But they've beat you know, they've won some really close 595 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 6: games against good teams like Carmel and malt Vernon Ben Davis. 596 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 6: So to me, like you know, Jeff Tiags team is, Yes, 597 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 6: they are super townent. A lot of people say they 598 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 6: might be the most talented team. You know, I would 599 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 6: argue Fishers is still really high up there. But but 600 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 6: you know, to me, the toughness level, the intensity they've 601 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 6: played with here lately, I think they've grown a lot 602 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 6: and I'm curious to see how that. You know, doesn't 603 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 6: mean they'll win tonight against a really good playing field team, 604 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 6: but I think they have grown a lot since the 605 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 6: start of the season. 606 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: Kyle, you have documented, you know, what Fishers has done 607 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: here right there. I think it's twenty three and zero 608 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: now is where they stand, you know, and there are 609 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: records that they could achieve just in terms of this 610 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: this streak that they're on. And I've talked about this 611 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: like with Miami of Ohio at the collegiate level, and 612 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: I know people can mock you know, their schedule or 613 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But I am a firm believer 614 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: that at some point a team that is unbeaten the 615 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: number and the they're almost playing against themselves. 616 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: It's like golf. 617 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're constantly playing against your own best game, 618 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: and that pressure can be very internal and can be difficult. 619 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: Have you gotten a chance to be the coaching staff 620 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: or the players, or just of witnessing it with Fishers 621 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: to get an idea how they navigate if you will 622 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: that pressure or try not to scoreboard to walk too 623 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: much as the numbers increase. 624 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 6: I don't think they It's not something that they talk 625 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 6: about you know, it's it's never front of front of 626 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 6: mind for them, and it really is impressive. I mean, 627 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 6: they've won fifty three regular season game in a row, 628 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 6: so you know that's you know, you're getting up into 629 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 6: argos of the you know there's still a ways away 630 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 6: from that, but you know that's seventy nine is the 631 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 6: all time state record, and you know that's not all 632 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 6: that far away when you consider the schedule they've played 633 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 6: and and the tough games they've had. And they did 634 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: lose obviously the game to Jeffersonville last year in the 635 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 6: state championship, and I know that was a crushing loss, 636 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 6: you know, and I would say too, like that shouldn't 637 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 6: be looked at as an upset. Jeffersonville was without Tray 638 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 6: Singleton for a large part of that season, and once 639 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 6: they got him back, they were just as good as fishers. 640 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: They beat him in the summer. 641 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 6: You know, they were legitimate title contender the whole time, 642 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 6: but to lose that game by one point was crushing. 643 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 6: So they kind of came back this year and I 644 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 6: didn't know, you know, they have so many new pieces 645 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 6: this year that you know, guys who played JV or 646 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 6: you know, newcomers like Kimer Grew who came in from 647 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 6: Lawrence North, and just a different team. 648 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: They lost all those seniors and. 649 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 6: A lot of leadership from last year's team like Nathan 650 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 6: Baker and John Anthony Hall and Justin Kirby who's actually 651 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 6: on that Miami Ohio team this year as a freshman. 652 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 6: So they lost a lot of a lot of talent 653 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 6: and they've done this with you know, they still have 654 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 6: Cooper Zachary, Jason Gardner. Obviously they have a lot of 655 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 6: talent still, but it's been a different type of team. 656 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 6: I don't know if they you know, if you compare 657 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 6: the talent level or the experience from last year to 658 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 6: this year, you know, you probably picked last year's team. 659 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 6: So it is impressive. And honestly, you know, they've gone 660 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 6: through this year winning some really close games and they've 661 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 6: been pushed by, you know, teams like you. 662 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: Know, like Pike. That Pike game was a good one. 663 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 6: They they had, you know, Westfield had came back on them, 664 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 6: sent the game to overtime and they had to win 665 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: that game in overtime. So it hasn't all been runaway games. 666 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 6: It's been some close ones and it seems like when 667 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 6: the you know, when the intensity of the game rises, 668 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 6: they seem to, you know, surge, and I think that's 669 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 6: a mark of a champion team that just kind of 670 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: has that confidence that you know, when it's when it's 671 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 6: time to win the game, they feel like they're going 672 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 6: to do it. And I know they they didn't do 673 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 6: it against Jeffersonville, but you know, like I said, that 674 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 6: was a very very good team. So to only lose 675 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 6: one time in the last two years, that's that's really impressive. 676 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: Lastly, Kyle, I know that you had the article this week, 677 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: but for those that did not see it, if you 678 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: could kind of reinform everybody, a top ten receiver of 679 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: the cut, you know, arguably one of the biggest recruits 680 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: to come out of Indiana in quite some time at 681 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: a skill set position, Monshen Sales, who we've talked about 682 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: from Lawrence North, has all, it appears, the tools to 683 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: be a college star. And we're now getting a better 684 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: idea what schools he is looking towards. Can he tell 685 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: us his visitation list and where you think he may 686 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: be leaning? 687 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he is. 688 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 6: You know, every time I've talked to him, he is. 689 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 6: He's really you know, been high on IU. I'm not saying, 690 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 6: you know, but there is a connection there. And I 691 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 6: may have talked to you about this before, but you know, 692 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 6: obviously Omar Cooper and Davion Chandler came from Lawrence North, 693 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 6: these guys relationships with those two. Actually just saw him 694 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 6: another night at a at a game, I think it 695 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 6: was a Pike game and he was there to watch 696 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 6: it and Davion Chandler was with him and they were 697 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 6: they were being honored as the state track champions in 698 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 6: the spring at halftime. But uh so there's a real 699 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 6: you know, he calls him, you know, it calls Davy 700 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 6: and his brother. I mean they're very very close. Uh 701 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 6: and IU was on that list. He said, I you 702 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 6: has been. Last time I talked to him for a story, 703 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 6: he said, I you has has recruited. 704 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: Him more than anyone really. 705 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 6: So I mean that's that's that's high praise. And uh 706 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 6: but the other four schools, you know, they're you're you're 707 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 6: up against the blue bloods, and IU is a blue 708 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 6: blood now after they won the national championship. But you 709 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 6: you consider the other schools Alabama, Miami of Florida, and 710 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 6: Ohio State, and uh, you know it's it's uh, you know, 711 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 6: that's a very very good list obviously, and I think 712 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 6: it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be very tough, 713 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 6: I think. 714 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I obviously inn il comes. 715 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 6: Into play when you're talking about these. He's going to 716 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 6: IU first for his official visit that is in April 717 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 6: late April. He's going to Alabama in late May, Ohio 718 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 6: State and Miami or back to back weekends in June. So, uh, 719 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 6: he's talked highly of all four of those schools, especially 720 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 6: i'd say Alabama because he has family connections there, you know, 721 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 6: so I've always thought, you know, if he turns down Alabama, 722 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 6: it's it's that'll be that'll be big news. But uh, 723 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 6: but yeah, I mean, I think he's still at the 724 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 6: point where he's learning about and he's in a position 725 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 6: honestly where he's a top ten player. You're not rushed 726 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 6: to make a decision here. I mean, teams are going 727 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 6: to wait for him, even though these are very highly 728 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 6: uh competitive teams that can get you know, a lot 729 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 6: of different recruits. They're going to wait for him to 730 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 6: make a decision. He's not going to be rushed into anything. 731 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 6: So I think he's in a good position where he 732 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 6: can kind of take his time, and he's got a good. 733 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: Head on his shoulders. 734 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 6: And you know, I think, you know, he's six five 735 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 6: and he can run, so you know he's going to 736 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 6: have you know, he's gonna have some great options. And 737 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 6: I hope, you know, for his sake, he uh, you know, 738 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 6: has a chance to really sit down and learn all 739 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 6: about these schools and and find the best situation for him. 740 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 6: I know a lot of people obviously in his ear 741 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 6: about you, but you know, you hope for the kid's sake, 742 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 6: he ends up in the best place possible for him 743 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 6: because he's an NFL player. 744 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: I have no doubt about that. 745 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: It is crazy still still for me to sit here 746 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: and think Alabama, Ohio State, Miami, Florida, I don't think. Yeah, 747 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Indiana beat all three of them in the what it's 748 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: just insane. Kyle again, Plainfield tonight, where you will be 749 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: right in terms of covering games. 750 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 6: I will, yeah, six pm, get there early. I know 751 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 6: it's going to be a big walk up crowd Pike 752 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 6: Plainfield and then b D and Brownsburg at seven thirty 753 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 6: roughly forty five. 754 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: All right, we'll be reading about all the coverage at 755 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Star. Appreciate the time. 756 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: As always, no problem. 757 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: Thanks Jake Cole need Rip joining us on the Java 758 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: House Coldbrew Coffee guest Line