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Speaker 1: Tony kats today on this foot.

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Speaker 2: The ads are two hundred and twenty two. The a's

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Speaker 2: are two nine. The bill has passed, The motion is adopted.

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Speaker 3: The bill has passed, The motion is adopted, and we

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Speaker 3: have ended the shutdown. Hey, hold on, good work. And

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Speaker 3: it sounded like I was a little muffled there. You

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Speaker 3: the same time. I mean, that's that takes a special

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Speaker 3: skill set. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be

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Speaker 3: with you, Good to be here. Find everything at Tony

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Speaker 3: Democrats came across. Two Republicans voted against. Of course, Thomas

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Speaker 3: Massey voted against. It's what he does, which is really

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Speaker 3: that he could have a point about things. It's just everything.

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Speaker 3: It can't be everything. Some things you gotta be okay with.

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Speaker 3: Everything's a negative, and yet there is no You're not

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Speaker 3: winning people over with your arguments. It's too busy being snarky,

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Speaker 3: and I don't like it when Trump does it with him,

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Speaker 3: but I'm sure his bloody heck don't like it when

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Speaker 3: he does with everybody. But leave that, leave that be.

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Speaker 3: This being over has to tell a story. There is,

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, a post mortem about

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Speaker 3: these things. What is it that we experienced here? What

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Speaker 3: real plan other than well, the last time I did

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Speaker 2: It's not a plan.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't run a business like that, sure as buddy

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Speaker 3: heck can't run a country like that. It should be

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Speaker 3: a reminder to everyone that there was a conversation regarding

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Speaker 3: government shutdown back in March, and what is it that

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Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer, the leader of the Democrats did. Chuck Schumer said,

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Speaker 2: A fool's errand to do so, that's me paraphrasing.

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Speaker 3: That this is not something of great value his words,

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Speaker 2: I think it was on the view saying, well, I

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Speaker 4: Man, I'm just gonna throw it out to why what

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Speaker 5: Okay, So look, I knew it was a difficult choice,

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Speaker 2: Explaining for the people who don't know what.

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Speaker 5: He knew, the government spending a shutdown. The alternative is

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Speaker 5: What would happen if we cut off government spending would

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Speaker 5: be devastation like we have never seen.

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Speaker 3: just like the rest of us would. Regarding this Epstein disaster,

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Speaker 3: Holy cow, I said yesterday, I said, I haven't had

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Speaker 2: But I will.

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Speaker 3: But what did I say, take a massive grain of

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Speaker 3: The only place that has more salt than the grain

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Speaker 2: York Times is the person running the fries over at McDonald's.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, John Carl.

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Speaker 2: On Colbert's show, Holy Heck, ABC learns no lessons. And

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Speaker 3: They think they can cover themselves, They think they can

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Speaker 3: allow the shutdown. It would be massive devastation. Yet now

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Speaker 2: Huh. That's called not having a plan.

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Speaker 3: It is obvious to everybody who pays attention that the

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Speaker 2: He had to cancel it all.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if you don't know about Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 3: and cheeseburgers, just go to your search engine and go

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Speaker 2: So he did this.

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Speaker 3: Now let's take it down a part two. The party

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Speaker 3: away with it. That the party apparacchic. These progressives of

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Speaker 3: And I ways say foaming in the mouth violin types,

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Speaker 2: They demanded that this happened so you did it. You

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Speaker 3: It is so important that everybody understands a Lynsky's rules

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's very, very important that you.

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Speaker 3: Pay attention to what it is that someone like Saul

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Speaker 2: They actually got this one correct and accurate.

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Speaker 3: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative,

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Speaker 3: If the objective is government shutdown, you have to shut down.

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Speaker 2: To a purpose.

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Speaker 3: One would think but no, if you shut down and

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Speaker 3: what exactly do you have? What exactly is the constructive alternative?

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Speaker 3: Everyone said, hey, we're gonna shut down the government. Hooray,

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Speaker 3: that's fantastic. And then absolutely nothing happened.

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Speaker 2: Nothing. It was nothing but silence. Every now and again,

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Speaker 3: got it, Obamacare subsidies. You think I'm rewriting history. I

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Speaker 2: He had to do it. The party demanded it, and then.

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Speaker 3: They said, all right, Chucky, Chucky, what's the plan. Boo boo,

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Speaker 3: But they said, no, no, no, this way we'll have the subject.

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Speaker 3: it looks, we'll be able to say, see, we forced

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Speaker 2: You could have done that in a week and a half.

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Speaker 2: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Because you had Richard Blumenthal, Democratic senator from Connecticut who

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Speaker 3: I'm not in any pain what soever. There are no

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today. Find everything at Tony kats

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Speaker 3: A bombshell, I say. We have emails of Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 2: That's how they phrased it.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, guys, good to be here,

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Speaker 2: And what I said was, I haven't had a chance

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Speaker 3: But if you expect me to believe anything the New

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not the case at all.

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Speaker 3: The story was was that Jeffrey Epstein in an email

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Speaker 2: Right at one point, Michael Wolfe, who for.

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Speaker 3: This shows us something else. This doesn't show us anything else.

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Speaker 3: He was connected to a lot of people. He spoke

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Speaker 2: That you see check this out about Epstein?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's just total coincidence and not in any

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Speaker 3: I'm getting a comment that Democrats have always blocked the

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Speaker 2: That's not the argument.

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Speaker 3: Tim Burchett said he wanted to release and it was

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Speaker 2: I want the release of the Epstein files.

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Speaker 3: That isn't this conversation you absolute whimps on the left.

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Speaker 2: The argument did there's nothing here and it got released.

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Speaker 3: So you can engage a change of subject after losing

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Speaker 2: We see you.

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Speaker 3: Boo boo, kitten, honey, smoopy baby, love, sweet cheeks. I

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try and soothe you.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'm gonna try and be your woobie. Listen

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Speaker 3: The desperation from the political left is to tie Trump

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: want to get some clicks on social media or because

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Speaker 3: you think it's controlling. That's proof positive that most probably

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Speaker 3: you've never sexually satisfied.

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Speaker 2: Anybody in your entire life.

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Speaker 3: Because look at the extent that you will go to

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Speaker 3: try and find some kind of self gratification. Honey, look

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Speaker 3: at me. I'm right here. I'm helping you through it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be okay together. You can't hate Trump so much.

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Speaker 3: You'll just make it up. You'll just lie. Because children,

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Speaker 3: young women were abused, and we have to find who

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Speaker 3: did this, and we have to put them in jail.

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Speaker 3: I want that. I hope you want that. I do

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Speaker 3: not care who they are. I don't care who their

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Speaker 3: daddy is. I don't care how much money they have,

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Speaker 3: or what position they hold, how much power they have.

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Speaker 3: If they abuse children, they have to go to jail.

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Speaker 3: But there is no proof that Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Did any of this.

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Speaker 3: And this release from the Democrats this release is nothing.

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Speaker 2: It's zero kids. They don't have it. But if you

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Speaker 2: were to ask me, do I think it is.

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Speaker 3: Timed perfectly and in every single way to be a

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Speaker 3: distraction from the fact that Democrats just got there elsis

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Speaker 3: kicked on the shutdown?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: Ten Does it matter what little comments you put in

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Speaker 3: social media? Does it matter the trolling? What matters are

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Speaker 3: the facts. Reality is what it is. Even when we

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Speaker 3: talk about, uh, the redacting, why was the name redacted?

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows who it is that we're talking about here.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows who we're talking about. So why in the

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Speaker 3: world would you redact the name? Doesn't make any sense?

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Speaker 3: And then you've got Jasmine Crockett. Check this out.

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Speaker 8: This is an email from April second, twenty eleven. Republicans

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Speaker 8: were saying that that victim is Virginia Giuffrey.

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Speaker 2: As you know, she died by suicide.

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Speaker 8: Cheeger and very Ox spoke a very ex spoken victim

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Speaker 8: of Jeffrey Epstein. Here's the email right here on your screen.

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Speaker 8: She wrote a book, as you know, and she did

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Speaker 8: not accuse him of any wrongdoing. What do you make

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Speaker 8: about it?

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Speaker 6: Can you confirm that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I don't know, obviously it's redacted who the victim is,

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Speaker 9: so I won't necessarily take the Republicans whord on who it.

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Speaker 6: Is that's redacted.

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Speaker 9: And I don't know why they would necessarily redect someone's

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Speaker 9: name who is deceased at this point.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats did that though.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats were done though I understand that.

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying, like, our biggest concern is to actually

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Speaker 9: make sure that we are protecting victims. And obviously she

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Speaker 9: wrote a book, she told her truth.

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Speaker 8: Because this is an email from April second, so twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: The redaction was done by Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Jasmine Crockett wants to say she knew that clearly, Clearly

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Speaker 3: she didn't. They don't even know what it is that

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Speaker 3: they're talking about. All they want to be able to

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Speaker 3: say is Trump bad. You could say Trump bad and

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of subjects. But can't you have a

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Speaker 3: fact with you. You got to make it up. Never ever,

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Speaker 3: ever trust the New York Times and in any of

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Speaker 3: these people, these media people, these mainstream people, check, double

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Speaker 3: check and recheck.

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Speaker 2: Don't ever take their for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the timing is suspicious, and you know why,

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Speaker 3: distraction that's obvious.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. We have reached the moment.

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Speaker 3: Where the streaming services, if you were to have them all,

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Speaker 3: it's costing you.

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Speaker 2: As much as cable.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal had the story that every single streaming

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Speaker 3: service has gone up in price since twenty nineteen. This

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Speaker 3: is not surprising, I think to many many people. Hbo

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Speaker 3: Max has gone up twenty three percent and Disney Plus

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Speaker 3: has gone up one hundred and seventy two percent. That

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Speaker 3: is a spread. The problem is is that that is

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Speaker 3: a very it's it's misleading. It's a very very misleading

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Speaker 3: bit of data.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you why.

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Speaker 3: If I were to take a look at this, this

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Speaker 3: is the Wall Street Journal, and you see these numbers

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Speaker 3: here about the increase in prices, Well, first you have

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Speaker 3: to ask yourself what is the standard price.

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Speaker 2: And who actually pays that? If you were to have.

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Speaker 3: Netflix, Hulu, HBO Max, Disney Plus, Peacock, Paramount Plus, an Apple,

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Speaker 3: you're paying seventy two to seventy five dollars a month

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Speaker 3: for the standard, the basic. You know, and I know

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Speaker 3: that people don't have the basic, they have other things.

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Speaker 3: So if you take a look at Netflix, for example,

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Speaker 3: their price increases. They started like that seven ninety nine

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Speaker 3: a month, and they've moved up to a premium of

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Speaker 3: twenty four ninety nine. Disney Plus started somewhere around six

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Speaker 3: dollars and have moved to eighteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: So the percentage.

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Speaker 3: Isn't as shocking as the number because the number for

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Speaker 3: all of them, all these services is basically the same,

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Speaker 3: somewhere between seventeen and twenty five dollars.

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Speaker 2: They're all within that range.

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Speaker 3: Apple TV, I think, is still less expensive, Apple TV

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Speaker 3: and Powermount Plus at the bottom numbers.

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Speaker 2: There something has to give, right.

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Speaker 3: Or is this more of a conversation of listen nobody

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Speaker 3: does it goes out anymore?

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Speaker 2: Why I have big screen TVs? I have all this content.

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Speaker 3: What's the point of leaving the house which creates another

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Speaker 3: whole set of problems?

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Speaker 2: The story is there, Tony kats dot com. Check it

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Speaker 2: out for yourself.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Line from Vaal Hartbe and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. So we now have.

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Speaker 3: An open government and the c R has passed, and

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Speaker 3: it's all said and done, and you had President Trump

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Speaker 3: last night signing the legislation and saying, look at these

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Speaker 3: terrible Democrats, Look what they did to the country. He's

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Speaker 3: not wrong about look what they did to the country.

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Speaker 3: As we engaged just earlier, this was there was no

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Speaker 3: point to this. There was no point to this at all.

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Speaker 3: This was a really, really, really bad idea, and Chuck

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Speaker 3: Schumer was only trying to protect himselves politically. But this

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Speaker 3: is absolutely in step with where the party is because

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Speaker 3: the party is not interested in any level of constructive solution.

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Speaker 3: The party, the Democratic Party, which is the progressive leftist party,

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Speaker 3: is only solely interested in destruction. They've explained it quite clearly.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we have to question that President Trump

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Speaker 2: last night courtesy of Fox News.

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Speaker 10: What the exact opposite with the biggest increase of any

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Speaker 10: of healthcare in any country.

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Speaker 2: It's a disaster.

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Speaker 11: And I'm calling today for insurance companies not to be

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Speaker 11: paid but for the money, this massive amount of money,

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Speaker 11: to be paid directly to the people of our country, so.

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Speaker 12: That they can buy their own healthcare, which will be

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Speaker 12: far better and far less defensive than the disaster known

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Speaker 12: as Obamacare. And I've had, I think great support, I've

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Speaker 12: even had Democrat support, So we want the money that

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Speaker 12: would be going to the insurance company, which is hundreds

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Speaker 12: of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 10: You know, their stock prices have gone up by one

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Speaker 10: thousand percent in many cases, one thousand percent over a

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Speaker 10: short period of time because our country stupidly pays him

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Speaker 10: so much money with his Obamacare scandal.

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Speaker 2: So he's not wrong about it being a scandal. He's

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Speaker 2: not wrong.

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Speaker 3: Scam is more of the word, sir, Tony Kats. Hey,

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Speaker 3: how are you Tony Kats today? If I forgot to

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Speaker 3: say lo, I forget sometimes I might do it twice

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Speaker 3: eight three three four six eight eight six sixty nine

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Speaker 3: eight three three got Tony. That's how you get to

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Speaker 3: be a part of the program. I had stated that

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Speaker 3: what Trump will do. Right, you hear Democrats fighting about

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Speaker 3: subsidies for Obamacare. Sortable Care Act now needs subsidies to

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Speaker 3: be affordable. But these subsidies were the enhanced subsidies that

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Speaker 3: came during COVID. This is what the Democratic Party was

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Speaker 3: fighting for, enhanced subsidies.

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Speaker 2: Really important to note here.

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't know why the Democrats are doing this,

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Speaker 3: except to say they want the story for themselves. They

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Speaker 3: want the subject for themselves. They want to be seen

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Speaker 3: as powerful on it, because if Trump has the chance,

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Speaker 3: he's totally going to extend the subsidies.

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Speaker 2: Trump's a populus non conservative.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna say this is going to keep this price

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Speaker 3: for these people low, more of a chance for me

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Speaker 3: to get him as a voter done.

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Speaker 2: Of course he's going to do that.

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Speaker 3: He took a pivot, but on the same philosophy, why

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Speaker 3: are we dealing with this garbage?

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Speaker 2: Why not give them money back to the people right

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Speaker 2: over here?

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Speaker 3: Now, I think the question should be why charge me

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Speaker 3: for the money to begin with?

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Speaker 2: Why force me to pay it to begin with?

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Speaker 3: But he the President, Trump, made a pivot that I

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Speaker 3: certainly was not expecting. It's very much like him. Why

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Speaker 3: are we dealing with this thing? Why don't we go

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Speaker 3: do this thing over here? As was pointed out on

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Speaker 3: this show by obc Roy of the Foundation for was

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Speaker 3: it the Foundation for Research and Education up and and

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Speaker 3: and oh gosh, freeop, my god, I lost it on Freeop.

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Speaker 3: I just went full Joe Biden. Guys, you it happened

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Speaker 3: right there in front of your eyes. The Foundation for

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Speaker 3: Research on Equal Opportunity, My gosh, shame on me. What

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Speaker 3: he stated, ob Groy said, you can. You can get

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Speaker 3: rid of the funding all you want of Obamacare. The

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Speaker 3: fundamental problem here is how the governance is set up,

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Speaker 3: how the whole system works, the regulatory scheme of a

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Speaker 3: this is what must be undone. And so his argument was,

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Speaker 3: and the argument from the Foundation for Research on Equal

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Speaker 3: Opportunity is that give the subsidies in in a deal

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Speaker 3: to then undo the regulatory scheme. I'm paraphrasing there, but

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Speaker 3: that was the concept. Interesting because that is what President

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Speaker 3: Trump is saying. Now, how do you turn that into

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Speaker 3: something that is passable? And part of the problem of passable,

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Speaker 3: which is to say, how do you rescind, is that

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Speaker 3: the Republican Party has never never put out a concept

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Speaker 3: of Okay, here's what we want to do with healthcare. Well, Tony,

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Speaker 3: it should be the free market. Oh, you and I

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Speaker 3: are on the same page, kitten. The problem is America

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Speaker 3: thinks there needs to be a plan. The worst part

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Speaker 3: about the bailouts of two thousand and nine twenty ten

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Speaker 3: is that it taught America that when something hits the fan,

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Speaker 3: don't worry.

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Speaker 2: The government will take care of it.

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Speaker 3: It's not the job of government. That's not the role

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Speaker 3: of government. Too big to fail, government bails you out.

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Speaker 3: What kind of nonsense is this? This is a horrific,

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Speaker 3: horrific message.

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Speaker 2: But it is the message that was sent, and.

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Speaker 3: Doing that message is very difficult. And if we go

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Speaker 3: back to when did Obamacare pass? Was Obamacare twenty ten,

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven? Was it twenty ten? Thank you there, producer Landon,

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Speaker 3: it's now twenty twenty five, fifteen years. And the total

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Speaker 3: amount of Republican proposal in regards to how to do

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Speaker 3: away with Obamacare and do something else as amounted to

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Speaker 3: this has been how Republicans have.

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Speaker 2: Phrased it, nothing zero maybe right?

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Speaker 3: If Democrats want to argue, well, the shutdown was very

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Speaker 3: important because we brought this important subject to light. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what happens when you've done the same for Republicans?

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Speaker 2: What happens when Trump decides, you know what, we can

662
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Speaker 2: take this, we can.

663
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Speaker 3: Do this, check this out, boombop bip taking these five plans.

664
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Speaker 3: Why don't we put this stuff together. Let's go do this.

665
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Speaker 3: That's gonna be interesting stuff. Did you really want the

666
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Speaker 3: subject to be front and center with a guy who

667
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: doesn't work the way other people work okay, but the

668
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Speaker 3: government's reopen. It was a vote of two twenty two

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Speaker 3: to two oh nine in the House. Six Democrats came

670
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Speaker 3: over to Republicans went the other way. Stevey of Florida

671
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Speaker 3: and Thomas Massey of Kentucky know wing is surprise that

672
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Speaker 3: he voted no. But there are some things to vote

673
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: know about in this reopening. And you say to me, Tony,

674
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 3: I thought you favored reopening the government. What I said

675
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: from the beginning was I refuse to get worked up

676
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Speaker 3: about a shutdown.

677
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: I refuse I want them to do their job.

678
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Speaker 3: And I don't think that the Senate nor the House

679
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: has any right to think that I'm going to somehow

680
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: scream and yell and hoot and holler because they can't

681
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Speaker 3: do their job. The only thing I've been thinking about

682
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Speaker 3: for forty two days is do I have to replace

683
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Speaker 3: my member of Congress or my senators? And if the

684
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: answer is yes, well I would get audit if I

685
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: were you. Let me give you two things that are

686
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: in this that are in this legislation that ended the

687
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: shutdown that might make you say, wait a second, I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't vote for that.

689
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: The first is what the senators put in the Senators

690
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: have a provision in the legislation regarding Jack.

691
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Speaker 2: Smith, and you're like, wait, I know the name Jack Smith.

692
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: Jacksmith was a special counsel looking into Donald Trump. Jack

693
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Speaker 3: Smith is the guy regarding Operation Arctic Frost who was

694
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Speaker 3: looking at phone records of people like Senator of Ted

695
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: Cruz and shamefully got them from groups like Verizon while

696
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: at and T said I'm the reckless of the subpoena.

697
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: You're out of your mind, and the government packed off.

698
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: Jack Smith was investigating members of the United States Senate,

699
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: playing the part of Labntory Burrier, who headed up Stalin's

700
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: secret police. Show me the man, and I'll show you

701
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: the crime. That's Berrier. And that's what Jack Smith was doing.

702
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: That's what the left was doing. In my view, I

703
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: don't believe there's any other way to look at it.

704
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Speaker 2: Once you get the data.

705
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Speaker 3: He was looking at Republicans and saying, Okay, what dirty

706
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: deeds have you done? What things have you done? How

707
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: can I get you? It's so obscene as to be believed.

708
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: And the Biden administration was an obscene administration. The provision

709
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: that is in the legislation states that if indeed a

710
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: Senator was investigated by Jack Smith during his investigation regarding

711
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Speaker 3: Trump and January sixth.

712
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: That Senator could sue the.

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Speaker 3: Federal government for up to five hundred thousand dollars of

714
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Speaker 3: taxpayer money. Allow me to say to each and every

715
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: Senator out there, I think it's disgusting if this happened.

716
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: I think it is awful if this happened.

717
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: I think that Jack Smith is the lowest form of

718
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: the lowest forms, just like I feel the same way

719
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: about Merrick Garland going after Christians, taking down license plate

720
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: numbers people went to church during COVID, as if somehow

721
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: freedom of religion went on hold because.

722
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Speaker 2: Of a virus.

723
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Speaker 3: But Jack Smith does something horrific and the taxpayer owes

724
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Speaker 3: you five hundred thousand dollars. Senators, sit down and shut

725
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: the hell up. If you consider suing and asking the

726
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: taxpayers to give you five hundred thousand dollars, you deserve

727
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: to lose your seat. I say that to Ted Cruz

728
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: right now, without an ounce of hesitation.

729
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: I agree with you. It's stings that you have no recourse.

730
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Speaker 2: It's gross.

731
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Speaker 3: If you expect the taxpayer to give you cash because

732
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Speaker 3: somebody else, not the taxpayer, did you wrong, You're out

733
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Speaker 3: of your skull.

734
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Speaker 2: You don't deserve to be in the Senate.

735
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Speaker 3: This is insane, but it's not the only nutty thing

736
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: that's in there. When Rand Paul during this conversation about

737
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: the shutdown, brought up hemp, I thought it was just

738
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Speaker 3: Rand Paul being Rand Paul.

739
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Speaker 2: I'm like, called bloody heck, what is this he's talking

740
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: about hemp? Look at.

741
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Speaker 3: Look at what they did about THHC. In this proposal,

742
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Speaker 3: there is a provision no, I'm sorry, not in this proposal,

743
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: in this now signed legislation that opens the government, there

744
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: is a provision that quote prevents the unregulated sale of

745
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Speaker 3: intoxicating hemp based or hemp derived products, including Delta eight,

746
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Speaker 3: from being sold online and gas stations and corner stores,

747
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: while preserving non intoxicating CBD and industrial hemp products. Now,

748
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 3: these products were decriminalized, I should say, legalized.

749
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Speaker 2: By the Farm Bill in twenty eighteen.

750
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Speaker 3: So without a discussion about the merits, we're going to

751
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Speaker 3: take an entire.

752
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Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for, industry. I didn't ask

753
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Speaker 2: if you liked the industry.

754
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: I am saying you didn't have an open debate about

755
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: the industry. And its legality in the United States. You

756
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: hid this in something else and then said, hey, screw

757
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: you if you're on the wrong side of our inside dealings.

758
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, everybody in the Senator is named

759
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi. This kind of inside deal. I wonder how

760
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: many senators had the opportunity to bet against this through

761
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: some kind of stock opportunity, to other business opportunity, knowing

762
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: that only certain people would be allowed to be in

763
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: this business. What the hell is this?

764
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Speaker 2: This is infuriating.

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Speaker 3: You have people like like Dan Patrick, who's the lieutenant

766
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Speaker 3: governor of Texas, saying this is really good, this is

767
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 3: really important, this is really valuable. No no, no, no, no

768
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Speaker 3: no no no no.

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Speaker 2: No no no, no, no, no, no no. This is terrible.

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Speaker 3: This is the kind of stuff Senators, members of Congress,

771
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: politicos Americans that makes us hate politicos. Why didn't we

772
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: have this debate out in the open. We should have

773
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: had this debate out in the open. This debate should

774
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: have been for all of America. Five hundred thousand dollars

775
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: for senators who got screwed by their government. Americans get

776
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: screwed by their government all the time. We don't get

777
00:49:54,960 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: to sue anybody for cash. The government audits us via

778
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: the IRS. We are decided, they call us guilty. We

779
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 3: have to prove our innocence, a total backwards manipulation of

780
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 3: the American system. We have to spend untold amounts of

781
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: time and dollars and we don't even get to put

782
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Speaker 3: a dollar amount to our time to defend ourselves.

783
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Speaker 2: And then when we did everything right, they go, Okay.

784
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Speaker 6: What.

785
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 3: Where is the real compensation for the real time spent

786
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: on this kind of attack? We don't get that. We

787
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: don't get that. You get half a million dollars. Listen,

788
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: I think you were done wrong. You don't deserve a

789
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 3: single taxpayer dime because of it, not a one.

790
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Speaker 2: Absolutely nuts. So yes, I'm glad.

791
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Speaker 3: The government's reopen, but we might have paid a cost

792
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Speaker 3: here so far.

793
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Speaker 2: I ain't pleased at all. I'm Tony Katz. Jewels that stepped.

794
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Speaker 13: Up and continued to serve. Many of them took on

795
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 13: extra shifts, much like RICO did, to fill in for

796
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 13: individuals who couldn't necessarily be there every single day. But

797
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 13: we're so proud of every single individual, whether they were

798
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Speaker 13: a frontline agent at a security gait, whether they were administrative.

799
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Speaker 13: There was many of them that made sure that things

800
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Speaker 13: still continue to operate at our airports that needed to

801
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 13: be done.

802
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: And that is Christine Illam, the Secretary of Homeland Security,

803
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: with TSA agents giving up thanks for all the work

804
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: they've done during the shutdown. The only thing I want

805
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: to hear regarding TSA agents is when do we get

806
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: rid of the TSA Tony Katz, Tony Katz.

807
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 2: Today, good to be with you. Back to the Secretary

808
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: of Christine.

809
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: No questions being asked by the press, Those questions a

810
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 3: little bit harder.

811
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Speaker 13: Yes, you make a facilitating that as soon as possible.

812
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 13: They've already missed pay periods and recognizing that that's a

813
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 13: hardship on their families. So we did all of the

814
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 13: administrative work that we needed to late last night to

815
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 13: ensure that that payroll would be processed as soon as possible,

816
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 13: and within the next coming days they will get that

817
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 13: into their bank accounts.

818
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Speaker 3: And I certainly don't think that we should be making

819
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Speaker 3: the claim that TSA shouldn't get paid.

820
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: They have a job, they do the job, they get

821
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: paid for the job.

822
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: I do think that, and I would like to see

823
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: President Trump involved in this, does this work? Do we

824
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: think the TSA system is the best system? If we

825
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: recall towards the the last year of Biden's alleged presidency.

826
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: I say that because I have no idea if he

827
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 3: was actually running the country or if it was a

828
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: cabal in an autom had I don't know. I don't

829
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: have the answers. My guess is I don't think he was,

830
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: but I can't prove it. If you went to airports,

831
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: never mind lines, and never mind people who didn't treat

832
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 3: you well, there were these signs that if you verbally

833
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: a cost I'm utilizing the word of cost a TSA agent,

834
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: you could be fined this, that, and the other. The

835
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: TSA agent can yell at you. They can be as

836
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: inept as anybody who's ever been inept.

837
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: They can go as slow as they need to go.

838
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: They can be as nasty as they want to be,

839
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: and somehow, if you notice, you're the one who could

840
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: be in trouble. If you want to know why it

841
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: is people act up on airplanes, part of.

842
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: It is the way we set tension in the airport.

843
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 3: Not a lot of this has to do with the airlines,

844
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 3: and a lot of this has to do with the

845
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: flying public. But the TSA's role is that they don't

846
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: make it easier, they make it more difficult.

847
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: Different rules at every airport.

848
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: You asked a question, you end up getting yelled at

849
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 3: because it was different from where you took off from

850
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: versus where you were returning to.

851
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: No one's going to notice the TSA's.

852
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: Role in making life more difficult for air travelers. This

853
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: system doesn't work. I'm kidding ourselves. At least at least

854
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: we don't take off our shoes now, Thank you, Sean Duffy.

855
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: We've got a lot more work to do. This is

856
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, Thank.

857
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: You very much.

858
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Speaker 14: As you see, even in our freshman class, we have

859
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 14: tremendous leadership on this fight for saving the planet for

860
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Speaker 14: the children. As the members were speaking, I'm so proud

861
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 14: of all the work that they have done. I was

862
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 14: remembering mister Caston talking to the King of Spain about

863
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 14: leading the discussion in staying with King of Spain when

864
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 14: the cop was there, just.

865
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Speaker 2: All the members having a leading role.

866
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Speaker 14: When we were in Angam a few years ago, several

867
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 14: years ago, heads of state would come over to me

868
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 14: and say, how did you all pass the first bill,

869
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 14: the Waxman market. How did you pass that? And then

870
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 14: IRA as well. And my response to them is because

871
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 14: of the.

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Speaker 15: Outside mobilization, there comes a moment where Nancy Pelosi should

873
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Speaker 15: have retired ten years ago. If it's not clear to

874
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 15: you now, I don't know when it's ever going to be,

875
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Speaker 15: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

876
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Speaker 15: What is this all about?

877
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Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi standing in front of the Capitol talking about

878
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 3: climate change?

879
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: Climate change? Why?

880
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Speaker 3: Well, because the shutdown's over and they have to move

881
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: on to their next subject. They lost, They got beat,

882
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: Their entire philosophy got slapped around. They wanted to make

883
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Speaker 3: Republicans fold. Republicans did not fold America, as the polling

884
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Speaker 3: would show. To believe what you will understood this. And

885
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: now they're onto Epstein, Epstein and Epstein with emails that

886
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 3: don't do anything to incriminate Donald Trump.

887
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: And now climate change and who is she talking about?

888
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: She's talking about the King of Spain. Members we're speaking.

889
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 14: I'm so proud of all the work that they have done.

890
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Speaker 14: I was remembering mister Cassen talking to the King of

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Speaker 14: Spain about.

892
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: I thought we said, no kings does nobody listen anymore, madness,

893
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 3: madness Tony Katz.

894
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: Tony Kat said, I don't know if I said hello

895
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Speaker 2: or not.

896
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: That is just one of many many pieces.

897
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Speaker 2: Of audio I have for you. There is also.

898
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 3: A really interesting one two punch from John Fetterman, the

899
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: senator from Pennsylvania, about well, who really is the problem here?

900
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: So this was CNN. He's doing an interview with Danabash,

901
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 3: and so it's CNN and listen bang quote.

902
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: I've drunk deeply of the venom of both the left

903
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 4: and the right. As a connoisseur, I can confirm that

904
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: the most poisonous, the bitterest is from the far left.

905
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh oh, is this the conversation we're having whether or

906
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: not the left or the right is more bitter? Now,

907
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: we would be fools if we didn't know that problems exist,

908
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: that some people are awful, that some people are nasty

909
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: and vile and flat out disgusting on the political right.

910
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: But that's enough about Candice Owns. It is clear, and

911
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: it is obvious. We are not fools, and we shouldn't be.

912
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: And because we are not fools, we understand all too

913
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: well that the violence that is embraced verbal and physical

914
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: on the left cannot be matched. And not only is

915
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 3: it not matched, there is no desire, no want on

916
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: the political left to bring it down. And the people

917
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: who want to bring it down, like Senator John Fetterman,

918
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: he gets told you shouldn't be a senator, you shouldn't

919
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 3: run again. Oh my gosh, you know, John Fetterman's got

920
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: some mental problems. Where the hell were you when he

921
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: had this stroke? I still stand by my words. It

922
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: is disgusting that they let him run. It is amazing

923
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Speaker 3: that he remember, he defeated Memet Oz, doctor OZ to

924
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: become the senator. Now Oz defeated Oz is the guy

925
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: who defeated Dave McCormick in the primary. Dave McCormick is

926
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: now a Senator from Pennsylvania. Fetterman is a senator, and

927
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: Oz is running the senators for Medicare Medicaid.

928
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania's got some power people.

929
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Speaker 3: But yes, we're aware that the real ugliness comes from

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Speaker 3: the left. And yes, I stand by my words that

931
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Speaker 3: the allowing Fetterman to run and to become a senator

932
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Speaker 3: when he clearly wasn't okay is beyond comprehension. Does he

933
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Speaker 3: still read to answer questions absolutely, he does.

934
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Speaker 2: Is it clear that he's at least understanding what the

935
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: question is?

936
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 6: Now?

937
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely true. He's better.

938
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Speaker 3: And some people will joke you know that the uh,

939
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Speaker 3: the stroke kind of cured him.

940
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Speaker 2: It's a rough show, but you.

941
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Speaker 3: Listen to him on a couple subjects, you're like, I agree,

942
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: he's not a conservative, he's never gonna be one.

943
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Speaker 2: A lot of things, a lot more things I disagree

944
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Speaker 2: with them on.

945
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Speaker 4: But listen, that is pretty remarkable to hear you say

946
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 4: that as an elected Democrat. Why yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

947
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Speaker 16: You know, it's been it's just been my personal experience

948
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 16: on this thing. And when I asked my digital team,

949
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 16: I said, you know, you're we're on all the platforms,

950
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 16: you know, really, what's what's kind of the harshest, what's

951
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 16: kind of the most personal?

952
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: And the answer was immediate. He said, oh, blue Sky.

953
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Speaker 6: It's blue Sky.

954
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Speaker 3: And now if you don't know what blue sky is,

955
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Speaker 3: I'm on Blue Sky. I think I'm Tony Katz on

956
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: Blue Sky. Blue Sky is a competitor to Twitter X,

957
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: and we still call it Twitter X because as much

958
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: as Elon Musk wants to call it X, ain't nobody

959
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 3: giving up the name Twitter we call it Twitter, MoMA

960
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 3: named Mama, named for baby Clay. I'm gonna call Clay.

961
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: Blue Sky is this competitor. And Blue Sky is where

962
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: all the progressives went, Oh, Twitter and x and look what.

963
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is doing.

964
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: And the fascist you mean people engage in free speech? Yes, fascists.

965
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: Of course, the people should only be allowed to say

966
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: what we agree that they should say. Okay, got it,

967
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 3: got it understood, And so they went to Blue Sky

968
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: and they are the most vicious, nasty people out there.

969
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: He's absolutely positively accurate about this. It's a thousand percent correct.

970
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: The viciousness for disagreement, the unwillingness to accept that people

971
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 3: might disagree. There is nothing liberal about these liberals if

972
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 3: we're talking about the concepts of classical liberalism. I am

973
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: all in. This is where I live and breathe. Guys,

974
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 3: this is the stuff that most connected to me, most

975
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: moved me as I was starting to study, understand what

976
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 3: is it that this philosophy is saying and is this

977
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 3: something I could be a part of. You know, when

978
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: I started, I felt myself much more libertarian.

979
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: And as I read and I went through it.

980
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 3: I said, no, no, I'm not that I'm not angry

981
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: with libertarians. I think some people are. I don't quite

982
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: understand that myself. I'm definitely a conservative. I have a

983
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 3: different view of foreign policy. I have a different view

984
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: of safety and defense. It's just a different view. I

985
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 3: don't think the libertarian should be stopped from speaking the

986
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 3: progressive today's liberal leftist, let's call it right. Different words,

987
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: they do have different meanings. Disagreement means you don't get

988
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: a say we've seen this, We've proven this, there is

989
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 3: no question that this is the truth, and that blue

990
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 3: sky is far more nasty, far more hateful. Totally believe it.

991
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 16: And the difference is I mean, the right would say

992
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 16: really rough things and names, you know, some names I

993
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 16: won't repeat on TV. But but the on the left,

994
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 16: it was like they want me to die, or that

995
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 16: we're cheering for your next stroke, or that's terrible, that

996
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 16: depression want why couldn't it depression won? And I hope

997
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 16: your kids find you. Uh, I mean they even have

998
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 16: like the.

999
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 3: Graphic, Yeah, you were not surprised. We're not surprised by

1000
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: the idea that the left is violent. But there's something

1001
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: else going on, and it's about the left trying to

1002
01:03:53,680 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: get you to engage in some really horrifying talk. This

1003
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 3: was Katie Kirk interviewing John Fetterman, and this was gotten

1004
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: to a conversation about Charlie Kirk.

1005
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 17: Do you think that flags should have been flown at

1006
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 17: half staff? Do you think his body should have been

1007
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 17: flown on air Force two? Do you think he should

1008
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 17: have posthumously be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom? I

1009
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 17: think some people felt that.

1010
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:26,479
Speaker 2: That was.

1011
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 17: Perhaps over the top in terms of mourning someone like

1012
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 17: Charlie Kirk.

1013
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: What do you mean someone like Charlie Kirk? What do

1014
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: you mean someone like Charlie Kirk? What is the what

1015
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: is the story here? Tell me who would have been

1016
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 3: more worthy?

1017
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 6: No?

1018
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 3: Wait, sorry, let's go back. Tell me what you mean

1019
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: by like, was there something wrong with Charlie? Was there

1020
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: something wrong with what he said? Something wrong with bringing

1021
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: free speech and promoting it on college campuses? Somebody who

1022
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: believed in their faith and proclaimed it from the mountaintop.

1023
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: The fact that I don't proclaim it from the mountaintop,

1024
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: the fact that I don't agree with Charlie Kirk, is inconsequential.

1025
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 3: What was wrong with him? Like Charlie Kirk? And why

1026
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: is this a question, why is this a thing?

1027
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: Now?

1028
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 3: Even I could say Charlie Kirk was not a public official,

1029
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: So maybe there's a question about flags at half staff.

1030
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: But when George Floyd died of a drug overdose, and

1031
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: I do not excuse the tops, I still don't accuse

1032
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: Derek Schauvin. The knee on the neck, which was not

1033
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: on the neck, didn't kill him. But I don't excuse

1034
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: Shauvin's behavior personal. But I had members of Congress take

1035
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 3: a knee. Charlie Kirk takes a knee for his Lord

1036
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: and Savior.

1037
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: That's beyond the pale.

1038
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 3: But taking a knee for George Floyd, that's good, That's okay,

1039
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: that's worthy. My god, Katie Kirk, what do you mean

1040
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 3: somebody like Charlie Kirk, What did Senator Fetterman say.

1041
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: How did you feel about that?

1042
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 16: I'd say that that was his choice and his prerogative,

1043
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 16: and that's that's where that's that was up, that was

1044
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 16: really entirely up to him.

1045
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: Doesn't take de bait. John Fetterman doesn't take debate. This

1046
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 3: is not a subject I care about. This is not

1047
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 3: even a question that matters. None of this is worthy.

1048
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: But when you want to sew division when you want

1049
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: to engage haye, when you want to.

1050
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: Say, oh, come on, you know these are bad people right.

1051
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh look what they did with that guy over there.

1052
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: The divisiveness.

1053
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 3: They aren't backing away from it, they aren't shying away

1054
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: from it. They are tripling down on it. That's a

1055
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 3: problem for all of us. Keep it here. This is

1056
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: Tony Kats today.

1057
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: The Maxwell Frost.

1058
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Speaker 18: Is younger than me, but very proud to be part

1059
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 18: of a new generation of leadership that I think is

1060
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 18: demonstrating that fighting this authoritarian and corrupt administration is the

1061
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 18: most important thing right now. Look, I think in the

1062
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Speaker 18: House of Representatives, Leader Jeffries has done an excellent job

1063
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 18: leading us and making sure that we are.

1064
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: United in fighting for healthcare.

1065
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Speaker 18: Throughout this entire saga of this Republican shutdown, we have

1066
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 18: been loud and clear about the healthcare crisis. We have

1067
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 18: spoken to the American people, brought back constituent stories and

1068
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Speaker 18: concerns directly to Washington, DC. And that is why the

1069
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 18: vast majority of Americans support the Affordable Care Act and

1070
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,480
Speaker 18: why Donald Trump's numbers are in the thirties.

1071
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Speaker 3: That's not why his numbers are low. Representative I'm sorry there,

1072
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 3: wanting you to know that they're still angry that the

1073
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 3: shutdown is over. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to

1074
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: be with you. Just a quick update because we were

1075
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Speaker 3: talking about Senator John Fetterman. The reporting is that he's

1076
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 3: in a hospital in Pennsylvania. He fell what they are

1077
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Speaker 3: referring to as a ventricular fibrillation flare up.

1078
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Speaker 2: He felt lightheaded, fell to the ground, hit his face.

1079
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Speaker 3: He's got minor injuries, Fetterman putting in a statement, if

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: you thought my face looked bad before, wait until you

1081
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 3: see it now. So hah. And see, this is going

1082
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: to lead to every single Democrat, which is to say,

1083
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 3: leftist out there saying you see, he can't even walk

1084
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 3: down the street. He's not mentally okay, he has to go.

1085
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 3: When he was clearly incapacitated, you said he was fine,

1086
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: and you said we were wrong to say otherwise. Evans

1087
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Speaker 3: say it, who is an author and a satirist, a

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01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: very funny and guy and very very bright. He wrote

1089
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Speaker 3: the book The Kindergarten of Eden, and he has stated

1090
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Speaker 3: in one of his lines is that.

1091
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Speaker 2: The left is not just wrong. There's wrong as wrong

1092
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Speaker 2: can be.

1093
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Speaker 3: But there are one hundred and eighty degrees opposed to

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Speaker 3: the truth, and the very concepts of projection here also exist.

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Speaker 3: When Fetaman was clearly incapacitated, he was fine. When Fetaman

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Speaker 3: disagrees with him and falls down, well, now he has

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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to buy into what that party brings to

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Speaker 2: the table. This is Tony Katz today. Line from vall

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Speaker 2: Hartbeiner and The.

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Speaker 1: Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: There's a real question about the level of fallout from

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Speaker 3: the government shutdown. There's a question of what happens specifically

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Speaker 3: in the House, specifically in the Senate, specifically amongst Democrats,

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Speaker 3: and then where exactly does the voter fall in all

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Speaker 3: of this, is any residual effect that plays out November th,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty sixth, that's the day of the midterms.

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Speaker 2: Tony kats Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Ed Marssey joins me right now from hot air dot com, where.

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Speaker 2: He is the Kappo to Toty Kappo.

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Speaker 3: I should learn how to say it right after all

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Speaker 3: this time, you know the the we've discussed the shutdown,

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Speaker 3: We've engaged this forty two days. Democrats got absolutely nothing,

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Speaker 3: And they're very honest about the fact that they didn't

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Speaker 3: care who they hurt as long as they were able

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Speaker 3: to extend Obamacare subsidies.

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Speaker 2: It didn't matter to them, as long.

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Speaker 3: As they could keep up this facade of this facade

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Speaker 3: known as Obamacare. That's a weird tactic. It's a weird

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Speaker 3: place to have put themselves. It's an odd fight I

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Speaker 3: think to have had to begin with. But when we

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Speaker 3: talk about the fallout of this, we'll start with Democrats.

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Speaker 3: What is the take on what the all out is

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Speaker 3: for them as a party as they move forward.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think that there's a great deal of anger

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Speaker 19: now amongst the progressive base that they ginned up initially

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Speaker 19: through the shutdown and over promised what could be delivered

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Speaker 19: through it, right, I mean, this is part of the

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Speaker 19: problem in managing expectations. One of the key parts of

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Speaker 19: strategic politics is managing expectations. You don't over promise and

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Speaker 19: under deliver because it is inherently destabilizing. Because if you

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Speaker 19: say we're going to get this and you don't get

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Speaker 19: anything close to it, then you make yourself incompetent because

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Speaker 19: you either promise something you couldn't possibly deliver, or you

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Speaker 19: promise something you could deliver but you were too incompetent

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Speaker 19: to deliver it.

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Speaker 2: Either way, it's not a good look.

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Speaker 3: Just as I don't mean to interrupt, but I want

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Speaker 3: to ask maybe maybe get we a little more deep

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Speaker 3: into that the idea of the Obamacare subsidies what Hakeem

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Speaker 3: Jeffaries constantly refers to as the Republican healthcare crisis, which no.

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Speaker 2: One on to ever they had to sell their own party.

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Speaker 3: It seemed to me this wasn't a conversation until Schumer

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Speaker 3: tried to make it a conversation. And is there a

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Speaker 3: question of maybe for the first time the Democrats weren't

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Speaker 3: following right away.

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Speaker 2: It took them a while to get on that page.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think, first off, it took Schumer a while

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Speaker 19: to get on that page because don't forget, he had

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Speaker 19: an opportunity to do a shutdown strategy in.

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Speaker 2: March, right, they had a cr that had expired. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 19: Had a book out, Remember he had the Chuck Schumer Memoir,

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Speaker 19: the book tour that ended up getting canceled because Chuck

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 19: Schumer wouldn't do the shutdown, and he argued at the

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Speaker 19: time that shutdowns are terrible strategies, and that Democrats are

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Speaker 19: about keeping government functioning because government is one of their

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Speaker 19: big values. So it is a bad strategy to shut

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Speaker 19: down the government in order to argue for more government,

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01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 19: which makes sense, and it was actually the right argument.

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Speaker 19: And Chuck Schumer end up getting death threats because he

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Speaker 19: didn't do the shutdown. So this time around, of course

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Speaker 19: he's going to do the shutdown because he doesn't want

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Speaker 19: the death threats again.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he goes full you know, you.

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Speaker 19: Know, full on board with the shutdown, sticks with it

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 19: through the off yr elections last week. You could argue

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Speaker 19: whether or not that intensified the turnout for Democrats. They

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Speaker 19: may have in Virginia where there's a lot of federal workers.

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Speaker 19: I you know, these are blue states electing Democrats. I

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Speaker 19: don't know that there was really that big of an issue.

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Speaker 19: But as soon as it was over, there was no

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01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 19: stakes at all left involved because they weren't going to

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Speaker 19: get the subsidies. They weren't even going to get a

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Speaker 19: promise to are they weren't even going to get a

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Speaker 19: framework to negotiate the subsidies. Republicans had made that clear

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Speaker 19: all along Republicans don't like these subsidies. And on top

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Speaker 19: of that, the whole argument about these subsidies, as Donald

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Speaker 19: Trump put it last night, just proves that Obamacare is

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Speaker 19: not affordable. The Affordable Care Act is not affordable care.

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Speaker 19: It is structured badly. It keeps re requiring more and

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Speaker 19: more government intervention to keep the costs from hitting the consumers,

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Speaker 19: which we've been talking about since twenty ten when it passed.

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Speaker 19: So for fifteen years we've been talking about hold on.

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Speaker 3: Republican organsities running their mouths and not putting out anything

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Speaker 3: as a counter to it, and have failed absolutely miserably.

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Speaker 2: We both know this.

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Speaker 19: Republicans no disagreement on this whatsoever. Republicans still haven't come

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Speaker 19: up with a coherent plan. There's a coherent plan out there,

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Speaker 19: which is to get third parties out of the healthcare

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Speaker 19: business and opening up the market for providers by using

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Speaker 19: the same type of market that elective elective surgeries such

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Speaker 19: as plastic surgery LAY six uses, which allows people to

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Speaker 19: compete because they're not dealing with insurers, right, so you

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Speaker 19: have open pricing, people compete. That's how you bring down

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Speaker 19: the cost of healthcare, not through third party price signal masking.

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Speaker 19: Price masking is what it is. We're ruining the price

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Speaker 19: signaling in an open market, and that's what the problem is,

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Speaker 19: and more subsidies makes that problem worse. But beyond this, right,

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Speaker 19: just strategically speaking, they vastly over promised what they could deliver,

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Speaker 19: and so it's no great shock in the end that

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Speaker 19: they ended up with nothing in hand at all except

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Speaker 19: reopening the government and undoing the stuff that the that

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Speaker 19: the shutdown and undoing the damage that the shutdown did

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Speaker 19: to air traffic control, to federal workers who were laid off,

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Speaker 19: and to snap beneficiaries, which is a whole other level

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Speaker 19: of subsidies that it.

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Speaker 2: Has to be on the table. I think they fall

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Speaker 2: out from this.

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Speaker 19: Is that the leadership of the Democrat Party is going

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Speaker 19: to shift towards Zaron Mamdani and his poll within the

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Speaker 19: Democrat coalition, and it's already doing that. XOS has a

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Speaker 19: peace on that this morning.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to that right now. Talking to Edmarssei of

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Speaker 3: hotair dot com. First, the more I look at them,

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Speaker 3: the more I look at the data, the idea that

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Speaker 3: the shutdown energized a base Zoron Mamdani got just over

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01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: a million votes when over just over two million votes

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Speaker 3: were cast in a city of eight point four million people.

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Speaker 3: It was less than twelve point five percent of the vote.

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Speaker 3: And toto, So no, I don't think there was this

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Speaker 3: great energy from Mam Donnie except from MSNBCCNN and the rest.

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Speaker 2: And I do not think there.

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Speaker 3: Was a great energy that was delivered because of the shutdown.

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Speaker 3: What I think is interesting when we talk about Schumer

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Speaker 3: is that when the election was said and done, they

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Speaker 3: felt that they had a mandate to keep going. They

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Speaker 3: believed you heard Richard Blumenthal, Connecticut senator who lied about

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Speaker 3: his Vietnam service, I don't see the need to give up.

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Speaker 3: You heard from Chris Murphy beta mail, Democrat senator from

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Speaker 3: Connecticut that we.

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Speaker 2: Would be fools to give up now.

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Speaker 3: We'll lose our base heading into the midterms if we

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Speaker 3: give up now.

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Speaker 2: They didn't want to give up.

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Speaker 3: Then you had the senators who crossed over and said,

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Speaker 3: you're all crazy.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be normal people for half a second.

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Speaker 3: D And so now this is all said and done,

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Speaker 3: everything's finished, it's signed, the shutdown is over. Is Chuck

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Speaker 3: Schumer done as the leader of the Democrats.

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Speaker 2: In the Senate.

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Speaker 19: Not in this session, he's not maybe in the next session.

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Speaker 19: I mean, he doesn't come up for re election until

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Speaker 19: twenty twenty eight. So you have to take a look

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Speaker 19: and see how Democrats do in the midterms.

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Speaker 2: Who gets who loses their seats.

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Speaker 19: Who comes into the Senate. And you know, as new senators,

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Speaker 19: you can take a look at that and then calculate that.

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Speaker 2: But there's who you're going to replace them with.

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Speaker 19: You've got Patty Murray, maybe you've got Elizabeth Warren. Kind

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Speaker 19: of come on, first off, I think that we're looking

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Speaker 19: at that question incorrectly because this assumes that eight senators actually,

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Speaker 19: you know, revolted against Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer arranged that vote.

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Speaker 19: Chuck understood that there was nothing more to be gained

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Speaker 19: from this, and he arranged that book. And I'll tell

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Speaker 19: you you know who, you know what the real talent,

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Speaker 19: and that is is Dick Durbin. Dick Durbin is from

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Speaker 19: Progressive Illinois.

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Speaker 2: He is a toady.

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Speaker 19: He was a toady to Harry Reid. He's a toady

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Speaker 19: to Chuck Schumer. Dick Durbin's not running for office again.

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Speaker 19: He's already announced his retirement. If Dick Durbin flipped on

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Speaker 19: this thing, it's because Chuck Schumer told him to. There

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Speaker 19: is no universe in which Dick Durbin revolts against Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 19: none whatsoever was a This was a calculated move to

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Speaker 19: bring this to an end before Thanksgiving because of the

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Speaker 19: damage it was doing. And I think that that was

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Speaker 19: the first smart move that Chuck Schumer even made in

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Speaker 19: this thing, was to finally bring this thing to a

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Speaker 19: halt before it really extended through through the holidays and

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Speaker 19: actually might have an impact on the midterms. I don't

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Speaker 19: think that this actually is going to have a huge

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Speaker 19: lasting impact on American politics. I think by the time

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Speaker 19: the midterms come around, there's many all sorts of things

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Speaker 19: that people w talking about besides what happened, you know,

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Speaker 19: for these six weeks. But reason one way you make

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Speaker 19: sure that that's the case is to bring it to

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Speaker 19: a close and do it quickly as soon as you can,

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Speaker 19: and be able to skapegoat some people who aren't in

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Speaker 19: running for reelection in the next cycle. I was all

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Speaker 19: eight of these senators are not up for election in

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Speaker 19: the next cycle.

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Speaker 2: I was amazed that it happened so quickly.

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Speaker 3: I expected Rand Paul to hold some things up because

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Speaker 3: there are some things in this legislation about how the

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Speaker 3: Republican senators can sue if Jack Smith looked at their

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Speaker 3: phone records conversations about HEMP and THHC that really are

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Speaker 3: I would say on toward as being way too kind

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Speaker 3: talking to Ed Marscy of hotair dot com. It's some

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Speaker 3: ugly legislation that came through here. But I agree that

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Speaker 3: this doesn't have a mid term effect unless we look

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Speaker 3: at the cr that's going to come up in September

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: That very much could.

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Speaker 3: But this was a question about if Schumer's done, and

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Speaker 3: I believe his leadership is because as you point out

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Speaker 3: over there at Axios, guess who's taking the strategic reins

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Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party now? The picture is of Zoron

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Speaker 3: Mamdanni with Alex Soros. I argue it's Alex Soros. I

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Speaker 3: did so on Sean Spicer's show last week. You're making

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Speaker 3: a different argument, but they could quite easily ed be

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Speaker 3: complementary arguments. Absolutely your stating that it is Mom, Donnie,

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Speaker 3: what I think you're saying is the Democratic Socialist day

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Speaker 3: has come. They have engaged a full takeover of the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party, and now we're all about to find out

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Speaker 3: if indeed we are.

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Speaker 2: To fa exactly.

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Speaker 19: And you're right, these are not mutually exclusive claims because

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Speaker 19: Alex Soros is a big part of promoting Zoron Mamdannis.

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Speaker 19: As you can see from the congratulatory picture they took

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Speaker 19: the evening of the election after it was confirmed that

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Speaker 19: Mum Donnie had won the me or All election.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 19: This is the same party, by the way, that keeps

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Speaker 19: saying no kings and no oligarchs. And of course Alex

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Speaker 19: Soros is basically out of central casting for Hollywood, for

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Speaker 19: oligarchs or the scions of oligarchs, I guess in this

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Speaker 19: particular case. And so yes, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 19: Democrat Socialist taking over the peace in Axios talks about

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01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 19: how Mam Donnie is now consulting with JB. Pritzker, Wes Moore,

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Speaker 19: and interestingly enough, Josh Shapiro on strategy to oppose Donald Trump.

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Speaker 19: That is not Mom Donnie asking for you know, advice.

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01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 19: That's Mom Donnie saying, you guys lost the last couple

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Speaker 19: of years. I'm going to tell you how to win.

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Speaker 19: And Shapiro was at least honest enough to allude to

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Speaker 19: that by saying, well, Mom, Donnie really had, you know,

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Speaker 19: showed us the through line on affordability and how that works. Ma'm,

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Speaker 19: Donnie's taking over the Democrat Party. Man, Donnie's allies are

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01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 19: taking over the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 6: That what this is about.

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Speaker 19: So short term, Chuck Schumer stays in power, stays in

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01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 19: that leadership position, but long term, the Democrats socialists, it's aoc,

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Speaker 19: m'm Donnie. You know you know Alyssa Pressley. I think

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Speaker 19: Alyssa Presley, Jasmine Crockett, those are the people who are

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Speaker 19: taking over the Democrat Party from this point forward.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com, this, you know,

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Speaker 3: someone's gonna ask me, well, Tony, if that's the case,

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 3: Howard g is going to keep voting for Democrats? And

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Speaker 3: my answer is, I don't know. I don't know every

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 3: Jewish person out there. They don't want to go to

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Speaker 3: my synagogue, but I guarantee you a bunch of them

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 3: still are, because well, there are people who have given

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01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 3: up there. You know, they're humanity if you will, for

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01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,919
Speaker 3: their ideology. And that is certainly something that has happened

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01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: when we talk about democratic socialists, which are socialists. No

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01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 3: such thing as a democratic socialists. This is all just

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01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: a great bit of mythology. So now thet is do

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Speaker 3: we think that America is actually prepared for this? That

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01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 3: question is something that gets asked in the cable newsphear

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Speaker 3: and others. I think the answer is they're already down

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 3: this road. The question is, how do you suggest that

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01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 3: that gets blunted because what they what they believe in

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01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 3: as a policy, as a philosophy, ends up with ruination

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Speaker 3: just because well we've read the book.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well the book, by the way, is the road

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Speaker 19: to serve them. I would highly recommend the book.

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Speaker 3: Yak h a y e K the brother of Selma

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01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 3: Hyak and looks just as hot in movies.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, the uncle of Salama Hyak. Oh,

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Speaker 2: well I'm kinder than you.

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Speaker 19: Well yeah, but don't watch don't watch Freda because Frida

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01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 19: is all about the opposite of what.

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Speaker 2: Hyak is telling you.

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Speaker 3: But yes, that's Freeda Callo, that's Matero. Is that as

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01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: she was married to? Yeah, see, I know things.

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Speaker 19: Hayek is hotter ideologically I'll just say that. But yes,

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Speaker 19: this is you're right, there's no such thing as democratic socialism.

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01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 19: It's just socialism. This is about taking power by any

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Speaker 19: means necessary, and that means street action, that means the

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Speaker 19: type of stuff we've seen for the last two years

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Speaker 19: on college campuses from Democrat socialists that are pro Hamas.

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01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 19: This is part of mom Donnie's own influence, right, This

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01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 19: is the sector of politics that he came out of,

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01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 19: these pro Hamas, pro socialism, outright Marxist and proudly so,

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01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 19: and is intending on imposing socialist policies on New York

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01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 19: City and then broadly on the rest of the country.

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Speaker 19: Through these consultations with Democrat governors as to how to

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01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 19: oppose Donald Trump, he is taking the lead. If I

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 19: was in his position, I'd be doing the exact same thing.

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Speaker 19: I won the election. You guys lost. It's time you

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01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 19: start listening to me because I'm in the vanguard of

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01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 19: where your constituencies are going. It makes perfect sense. It's

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01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 19: very dangerous because of what he is. But if I

1385
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 19: was in his position, i'd say the exact same thing.

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01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 19: It's not easy to defeat various governors. It's not easy

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01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 19: to defeat it at all. No, it's not because it's

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01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 19: very seductive. And I'll tell you this the other thing

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Speaker 19: to Tony and I know we don't have a ton

1390
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 19: of time on this, but for the last few decades,

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 19: the American educational system has been in doctrinating students into

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Speaker 19: thinking that socialism is a legitimate, proven method of governing,

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Speaker 19: when all the evidence of the twentieth century shows.

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Speaker 2: The absolute destruction that socialist.

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Speaker 19: Policies have created, whether it's you know, national socialism in Germany,

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Speaker 19: or whether it's communist socialism in the Soviet Union and

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Speaker 19: in China and Venezuela right now and every other place

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Speaker 19: that's been applied. And that's where you need to read

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 19: the road serve them because in nineteen thirty eight, nineteen

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01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 19: thirty nine, i think is when he wrote this book,

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01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 19: maybe it was in the nineteen forties, he laid it

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01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 19: out very clearly as exactly the model. And the model

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01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 19: keeps proving itself over and over and over again when socialism,

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01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,520
Speaker 19: when socialist policies fail, the answer from socialists is more socialism,

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01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 19: and it's more brutal. It keeps getting more and more

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 19: brutal because as people fail, they get replaced by people

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01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 19: who will impose those policies more brutally because they can't

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01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 19: accept the fact that the policies themselves are wrong. It's

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01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 19: just simply that we did we didn't socialism enough.

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Speaker 2: We've got a socialism harder.

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01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: The round hole is never square enough for the square peg,

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01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: so the square peg must be further pounded into the

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01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 3: round hole. That's exactly what we're discussing. Ed Morrissey, hotair

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Speaker 3: dot com. I appreciate you being with us. More to

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01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 3: get to I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 3: I always like keeping an eye on what's going on

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01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 3: with the country economically, but I don't give financial advice.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, I don't do that. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: But I will say, has anybody noticed that gold has

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01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: popped back up and is now at least a part

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01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 3: of today forty two hundred dollars an ounce that silver

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01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 3: is fifty three and actually hit fifty four dollars or.

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Speaker 2: Forty five cents an ounce. Full disclosure.

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Speaker 3: I did have some silver and I sold it at

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Speaker 3: fifty one, of course I did. But I'd rather sell

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01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 3: too early than too late. That's the way I operate.

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,759
Speaker 3: That's why I work. Somebody else is smarter than me. Fantastic, terrific. Again,

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Speaker 3: I'm not telling you you should or you shouldn't. That's

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01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 3: totally up to you, totally up to you and your

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01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 3: financial professional or whoever else. I don't know, you counsult

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01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 3: with a Wiji board. I don't know. What I'm telling

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01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 3: you is is that that's up to you. But is

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01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 3: anybody noticing what's happening here? They reopened the government and

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01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 3: go and talk about it, and boom, the price went

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Speaker 3: back up. Gold is a hedge against inflation. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I don't have any gold sponsors. I'm not telling you

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01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 3: where to buy gold, none of that. That's not what

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01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm doing. It's a hedge against inflation. And that's how

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01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: it has to be thought of. And so the minute

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01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 3: there was a conversation about the idea that the government

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01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 3: was going to get back open, boom the gold shot

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01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 3: back up, which means they fear more spending because they're concerned.

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01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 3: They being the markets people, Americans citizens, they're concerned about inflation.

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 3: This should be telling to the White House. They should

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01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 3: be aware of what's happening here. And this is the

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01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 3: economic conversation. Stop telling me everything is great. That's all

1448
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 3: I ask. Be honest about what's happening and recognize how

1449
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: people feel. This is a unique indicator of sentiment, and

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01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 3: the sentiment is it ain't all great, kitten, That's all

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01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: The numbers tell their own story. You do with those

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01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 2: numbers what you will. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony

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01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: CAATs today.

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Speaker 3: There's no question that the shutdown affected everything everywhere. There's

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01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 3: no segment of society that didn't have some level of

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 3: effect of these shutdowns, which are now over. So we

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01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 3: got that going for us. Tony Kats. Tony Kats Today,

1459
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 3: great to be with. You find everything at tonykats dot com.

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01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 3: I admit what I said is still true. You didn't

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Speaker 3: feel the effects of the shutdown in your everyday life.

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Speaker 2: But that isn't to say that there weren't things that

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01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: were affected.

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Speaker 3: We saw how air traffic controllers were affected, we saw

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01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 3: how the military was affected, we saw how people getting

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01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 3: snap benefits were affected. And I still agree we need

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01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 3: to do a tremendous amount to reduce the number of

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Speaker 3: people getting these benefits because there's a lot of.

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Speaker 2: People who do not of them. We shouldn't be helping

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01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: single able bodied men.

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Speaker 3: They have to go get jobs, they have to go produce,

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01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 3: they have to go create. We are not going to

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01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 3: allow this taker society to take hold.

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Speaker 2: It's nonsense, it's madness. But there were other things that

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Speaker 2: took place.

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Speaker 3: And if you were taking some kind of family vacation,

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01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 3: you didn't get to go to a national park, if

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01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 3: you were trying to see DC and monuments, sorry, that

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01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 3: wasn't going to happen. And so while you could argue, man,

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01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,440
Speaker 3: that's really first world problem, isn't that the exact.

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Speaker 2: Kind of problems we want to have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, after all, what's the value being a first

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01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 3: world nation if you can't have first world problems. I

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01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 3: say that not to be flipped, but rather to engage

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01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:47,759
Speaker 3: a little with a little more focus. Well, these things

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01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 3: did affect parts of the country, and while it did,

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01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 3: there's also things going on within the country that need

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01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 3: to get our attention. And there's been a lot of

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Speaker 3: talk about data centers and the idea of what you

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01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 3: want your city, your state, your municipality to have these

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01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 3: data centers and they take up all this energy, and

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01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: how does one deal with it?

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01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:07,799
Speaker 2: What is the future.

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01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,759
Speaker 3: I had the chance to sit and talk with Doug Bergham,

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Speaker 3: the Secretary of the Interior, the former governor of North Dakota,

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Speaker 3: who has a very, very.

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Speaker 2: Long history in tech.

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Speaker 3: I do have questions on the tech side and how

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Speaker 3: Interior plays a part in this. But from your department,

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Speaker 3: people wouldn't think the Secretary of the Interior dealing with

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01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: land management across the United States impacted by the shutdown.

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Speaker 2: How did the shutdown affect your world?

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Speaker 6: Well, Tony, great to.

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Speaker 20: Be with you, and thanks for drawing light on this,

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01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 20: but this hurts every American and across the Interior. It's

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01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 20: an incredible department. We've got all the national parks, all

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Speaker 20: the tribal relationships across the country, four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 20: four tribal nations. We deal with over four hundred National

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01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 20: park sites and historic sites, US fish and life, all

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01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,839
Speaker 20: of these things. When you shut down the National Parks system,

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01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 20: we fought to keep them open. But when we had

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Speaker 20: them open, there was nobody there in the boots collecting revenue.

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Speaker 6: We were losing revenue every.

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Speaker 20: Day, and you knew who was really hurting the entrance

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01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 20: communities to the national parks. Those small businesses, particularly during

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01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 20: the you know, like fall leaf season, great Smoky Mountains

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Speaker 20: some of are most visited. I think all of these

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Speaker 20: losing tens of millions of dollars of revenue a day

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01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 20: for small businesses for what?

1520
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 6: I mean for what? Because you know.

1521
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 20: There is nothing accomplished by the Democrats.

1522
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 6: Only hurting Americans.

1523
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 2: You and in your tenure as governor of North Dakota.

1524
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 3: It's a very interesting story because I don't want to

1525
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 3: call you the accidental.

1526
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: Governor, but I think when you ran as being an.

1527
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 3: Executive with great Plain Software selling that to Microsoft for

1528
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 3: one point one billion dollars, people didn't necessarily take that

1529
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 3: too seriously. I think is an acceptable way to say it.

1530
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 3: And then you want a second term by an overwhelming margin.

1531
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 3: You've engaged the idea of beating the odds and then

1532
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 3: working with people towards towards common goals. Was there no

1533
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,440
Speaker 3: conversation about how a common goal could have been achieved

1534
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 3: except to wait out forty two days of Democrat and sanity?

1535
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 6: Well, I first of.

1536
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 20: All had accidental governor is totally appropriate. And when I

1537
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 20: was when I decided what I decided to run, and

1538
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 20: I told Captain I.

1539
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 6: Was thinking about running. He said, oh, my goodness.

1540
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 20: Really, why we have a great life and and why

1541
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 20: would you want to get into this, you know, horrible

1542
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 20: world of you know politics. And I said, well, don't worry.

1543
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 20: I don't have a chance. You don't have to worry

1544
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 20: about being first lady. So that was my sales pitch.

1545
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 20: But she was an amazing first lady as well. But

1546
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 20: we but yeah, there wasn't really, I don't think in

1547
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 20: DC and Congress, you know, I'm busy trying to keep

1548
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:49,480
Speaker 20: the world's.

1549
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 6: Largest balance sheet going.

1550
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 20: I mean, in terears, got five hundred million acres of

1551
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 20: service land to manage, and Timberly's engrazingly oil and gaslet

1552
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 20: we're revenue generating agency and trying to keep that revenue up.

1553
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 20: Under the Biden administration, the revenue went down every year.

1554
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 20: And these assets is the underground assets, seven hundred million

1555
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:13,839
Speaker 20: acres of where we've got minerals, critical minerals, oil and gas,

1556
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,440
Speaker 20: the timber and grazing on the surface and then offshore

1557
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 20: you know, rich with all kinds of resources two point

1558
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 20: five billion acres stretching everywhere from Pacific Islands to the Caribbean.

1559
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 20: Because all of those territories are part of the Department

1560
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 20: of the misnamed Department of Interior, and of course everything

1561
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 20: up in Alaska, which was shut down under the Biden administration,

1562
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 20: that's got a resource. But when we tell Americans here about, oh,

1563
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 20: we've got this debt, we've got three six billion dollars

1564
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 20: of debt, I'm amaginable number.

1565
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 6: Well, I want to let Americans know it.

1566
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 20: You also, if you own part of that debt, you

1567
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 20: own part of these assets. These are public lands, and

1568
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 20: in your assets, ownership in these father lands could be

1569
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 20: five times, ten times greater than the debt because we

1570
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 20: have hundreds of brillions of dollars of apps that's held

1571
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 20: in these lands, minerals, timber, all these things that we

1572
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 20: can generate revenue from.

1573
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 6: But we've got to get Reverend.

1574
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 20: When Theodore Roosevelt put these lands away, they weren't all

1575
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:14,759
Speaker 20: wilderness areas. They weren't all national parks and sacred areas.

1576
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 20: These were for the benefit and the use of the

1577
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 20: American people.

1578
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:19,879
Speaker 6: That's what we're about. In the shutdown.

1579
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 20: Hurt our ability, hurt our revenue, and hurt the communities

1580
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 20: and the workers and timber raising ranchers, oil and gas

1581
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 20: affects all of them.

1582
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 3: Talking to the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergham, and

1583
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 3: I do understand what you're saying there. I agree, But

1584
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 3: just before moving on, you talked about the amounts of

1585
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 3: land that is covered by the Secretary of the Interior,

1586
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 3: by your department, by the Bureau of Land Management, especially

1587
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: on the west of the United States.

1588
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 2: Is it too much? Should we be giving this land

1589
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: back to the States.

1590
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 20: There are specific instances through the answer that question is yes.

1591
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 20: There's lands that were meant to go to Alaska when

1592
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 20: it became a state in the late nineteen fifties that

1593
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 20: still haven't been transferred. We're trying to get those back

1594
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 20: out to the States. States and many times can manage

1595
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 20: these better they're closer to them.

1596
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 6: I know this as a former governor.

1597
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 20: But there are other lands that We've got a small

1598
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 20: amount of lands that are in Southern Nevada. There is

1599
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 20: a Southern Nevada Lands Act. Harry Reid, Democrat, leader of

1600
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 20: the Senate twenty five years ago, came up with a

1601
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 20: bill because you've got cities like Las Vegas that are

1602
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 20: pammed in by Bureau of Land Management land that's not

1603
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 20: good for recreation not good for grazing, but wow, it's

1604
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 20: a valuable land. And when we sell one hundred acres

1605
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 20: of land near Las Vegas, we the federal government, you

1606
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 20: the people, and.

1607
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 6: We get a big check.

1608
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 20: Then we can turn that check and turn that into

1609
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 20: developing real recreation land, real wilderness, real visitor centers. And

1610
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 20: that's what we're doing right now. So there are some

1611
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 20: cases where in the precise thing. And if you look

1612
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 20: out west around fast growing cities Boise, Salt Lake, Las Vegas, Reno,

1613
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 20: those are places, I mean, Nevada federal owned. I mean,

1614
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 20: that's just crazy. Indiana is a lucky state. It's got

1615
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 20: very little federal ownership and doesn't have to deal with

1616
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 20: this with having a bunch of federal bureaucracy screwing up

1617
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 20: the you know, basically being the landlord for Indiana, the

1618
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 20: governor of Indiana can manage the land with the people

1619
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 20: of Indiana.

1620
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 6: Who care for it, live there, live there for generations.

1621
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 20: I mean, nobody's going to care for Indiana more than

1622
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 20: the people that are living there, more.

1623
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Than Hoosiers, that's true.

1624
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 3: Talking to the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergham, you

1625
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: bring up my state, Indiana and being somebody who has

1626
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 3: this this long career in tech and tech growth, you

1627
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 3: also play in the worlds of energy. In my state,

1628
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,879
Speaker 3: data centers have become a front and center subject.

1629
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 2: Do we want to be the state of data centers?

1630
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 3: They take up the land, they're not attractive, there's not

1631
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 3: really a workforce.

1632
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 2: Is it actually throwing off a tax benefit?

1633
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 3: And what of the energy usage, the power and the

1634
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 3: water that's utilized.

1635
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 2: In your view, as you are.

1636
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 3: Dealing with us and seeing this and seeing of course

1637
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 3: questions about hey, can we use this land?

1638
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Can we use that land?

1639
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 3: Should states be looking at being data center states or

1640
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 3: is this a no win proposition?

1641
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 6: Well, I think they should absolutely look at it.

1642
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 20: And every state's got to make up their own decisions

1643
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 20: and whether they get benefit or not, spends a little

1644
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 20: bit on their revenue generation that they are generating revenue

1645
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 20: through property taxes. These can be a huge lift for

1646
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 20: some rural areas. But as a country, we're in the

1647
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,560
Speaker 20: AI arms race with China, and China didn't take the

1648
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 20: last forty three days off.

1649
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 6: You know, they're charging ahead.

1650
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 20: They're adding power at unbelievable levels. I mean, there's been

1651
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 20: a saying in every language and every culture for a

1652
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 20: thousand years that knowledge is power. But now it's actually

1653
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 20: flipped its power is knowledge because the first time in

1654
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 20: human history, we can take electricity, a kill a lot

1655
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,600
Speaker 20: of electricity, and we can convert it directly into intelligence.

1656
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 20: So Tony even quit calling these data centers. If you're

1657
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 20: manufacturing intelligence, these are manufacturing plants.

1658
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 6: I mean a data center.

1659
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 20: You've got to you know, Blue Cross healthcare claim, and

1660
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 20: you've got a payer and you've got a provider and

1661
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 20: you have a patient.

1662
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 6: That's the closed loop system.

1663
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 20: That's that's a data center that's running you know some

1664
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 20: you know, shopping orders. That's the closed loop between the

1665
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 20: customer and the company.

1666
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 6: But these these are GPTs.

1667
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 20: General purpose technologies. If you're manufacturing intelligence. It can be

1668
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 20: used by universities in Indiana, can be used by by

1669
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 20: people that are trying to cure cancer research institutes.

1670
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 6: It can be used by K twelve students. It can

1671
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:36,520
Speaker 6: be used by by anybody.

1672
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 20: And and you're going to see capital flow to the

1673
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 20: states that have low electricity crisis, and you're going to

1674
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 20: see capital flow away from states that have high electricity prices.

1675
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 20: Because electricity is the primary ingredient into to uh to,

1676
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 20: you know, creating more intelligence and and we've got we've

1677
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 20: got different policies. Are country places like New York and

1678
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,640
Speaker 20: California that have traditionally attract capital are going to be

1679
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 20: on the last of the list. I mean there's there's

1680
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 20: close to four hundred billion dollars chasing chasing artificial intelligence

1681
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 20: factory locations right now.

1682
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 6: I don't say that capital.

1683
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,799
Speaker 3: I say yes talking to the Secretary of the Interior,

1684
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 3: Doug Bergham. But this, this energy conversation is exactly the

1685
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: one where states like mine and other states end up

1686
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 3: seeing an issue and the people say, hold up a second,

1687
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 3: we're the ones who are going to pay the energy bill,

1688
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 3: or we're going to pay the more expensive energy bill

1689
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: because the data center is using.

1690
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:33,160
Speaker 2: All the energy.

1691
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 3: So it's not that I don't disagree about where things

1692
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 3: are going. How do you engage a conversation of convincing

1693
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 3: local municipalities, no matter the state, when the realization is

1694
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 3: these data centers suck up energy like it's their job.

1695
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 6: Well, I think the key here is there is no

1696
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 6: energy transition. That was that was basically a misconception. They

1697
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,839
Speaker 6: a frame meing that somehow that if you had highly subsidized.

1698
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 20: Intermittent, weather dependent you know power that you could transition

1699
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 20: away from from you know, baseloads seven by.

1700
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 6: Twenty four power.

1701
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 20: But there is energy addition. We need more electricity in

1702
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 20: this country. We have not produced. We've never if someone's

1703
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 20: running utility and they've been a CEO and they grew

1704
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 20: up in that industry in their lifetime, they've never seen

1705
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 20: a demand curve like we have not where we just

1706
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 20: need more power. And what the Trump administration is doing

1707
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 20: is allowing these the hyperscalers, the people that are building

1708
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 20: the AI factory to build them, you know, off the

1709
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 20: meter behind the grid. But you've got to bring your

1710
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 20: own power. You've got to build your own power. You

1711
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 20: have to be your own you have to be your

1712
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:45,719
Speaker 20: own power generator, so you're not affecting the local pricing,

1713
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 20: so you're not affecting the local grid.

1714
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 6: And and the.

1715
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 20: Way to you know, do that again, part of the

1716
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 20: cost of electricity is the cost of transmission. A lot

1717
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 20: of this intermittent stuff that was built, you know, the

1718
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 20: weather dependent wind and solar build it, you know, build

1719
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 20: a wind farm in North Dakota, but then we need

1720
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 20: transmission from North Dakota to California or North Kota to

1721
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 20: New York or someplace, and that costs trillions of dollars

1722
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,839
Speaker 20: of infrastructure costs to move these electrons around where.

1723
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 6: The data center.

1724
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 20: Guys, the smart ones are going to a place where

1725
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 20: we've got stranded power, like the Permian, the Baka, and

1726
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 20: the North Dakota, the Marcellis in Pennsylvania. Go to where

1727
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 20: the stranded natural gases, build a power plan, put a

1728
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 20: data center right next to it, and guess what your finished.

1729
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 6: Product goes out on a fiber optic cable. And it's like,

1730
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 6: you don't need to be fighting all this, you know, all.

1731
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 20: The landowner issues related to transmission or pipelines.

1732
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 3: By the way, the back in Marcelosi's are shale fields

1733
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 3: that the secretary is talking about. Well, I've got thirty seconds, Sar,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate you taking the time before I let

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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 2: I've already run late, and it's been well worth it.

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Speaker 3: Has there ever been a conversation about the Interior Department

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Speaker 3: allowing certain land to be utilized for the building of

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Speaker 3: data centers, So it's not state a conversation, it's actually

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Speaker 3: a federal conversation. And then the states being able to

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01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 3: benefit from the federal government engaging and what can be

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Speaker 3: seen as a national security conquest.

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Speaker 6: Answer is yes.

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Speaker 20: And on the topic of affordability in North Kota, when

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Speaker 20: I was still governor, we you know approved the data center,

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Speaker 20: but they actually did in a way where the rates

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Speaker 20: went down for the local farmers.

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Speaker 6: You produce extra energy, put.

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Speaker 20: It onto the grid, benefit everybody locally and to your

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Speaker 20: data center.

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Speaker 6: There's a win win opportunities here. The capital is there.

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Speaker 6: People just have to be absolutely creative.

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Speaker 20: And then again, my great partner Chris Wright leading the

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Speaker 20: Department of Energy. Department of Energy has got land. They're

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Speaker 20: fast tracking and co loating, co locating small modular nuclear

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Speaker 20: future of you know, future of electricity.

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Speaker 6: Down the road. We need more of that, but co locating.

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Speaker 20: On their land to speed up the permitting process so

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Speaker 20: they can get it done in years not decades.

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Speaker 3: Secretary Doug Bergham, the Secretary of the Interior. Secretary Bergham

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Speaker 3: on the Twitter xbu r gum, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Taking the time come visit us.

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01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 3: Happy to host you have an event, and if you're

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Speaker 3: a cigar smoker, well then my gosh, I'd be happy

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Speaker 3: as a clam.

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Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 3: Today Congressman Thomas Massey is saying that the FBI and

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Speaker 3: their investigation to January sixth is about targeting the investigators.

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Speaker 3: And now Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI,

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Speaker 3: is calling that disgusting, calling out Representative Massey and saying, hey, look,

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Speaker 3: I have tried to reach out to you. Here's the

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Speaker 3: screenshots of me trying to call you. What in the

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Speaker 3: world are you doing here? Why don't you be on

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Speaker 3: our side in this investigation instead of a quote dog

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Speaker 3: barking behind defence Thomas Massey, I want to like he

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01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,799
Speaker 3: has made it impossible, he said me, ah, because.

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Speaker 2: It's all because of Israel. It's because of him.

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Speaker 3: It's because of a what I would describe as a

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01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 3: broken philosophy on how one engages. I can appreciate a

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Speaker 3: no vote. I can appreciate we've got a spending issue here.

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Speaker 3: I can appreciate him saying I don't want the foreign

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Speaker 3: aid over there. I can't appreciate on every subject everywhere,

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Speaker 3: everyone is terrible and everything is terrible.

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Speaker 2: Something has to agree with you.

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Speaker 3: And if not, I have to look at you somewhat askew,

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Speaker 3: and it's not that he can't be right about certain things.

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Speaker 3: It's just I look askew at the man based on

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Speaker 3: his presentation find everything at Tonycotts dot com tomorrow, Everyone,

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Speaker 3: take care,