1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: He sees the Fan Morning Show with KB jab and 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Yea. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: A second is good, the friendly soft roll. 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: On the Rims. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: Ninety three eighty nine. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 4: It's a two possession game with three seconds left. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 5: Don't do anything silling it. 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Just be smart here. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: Georgetown who looked inbound, shuts it to mid court. He 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: would shoot you back to mulready, he'll throw it up. 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: That's the ball game. The Dogs have won ninety three 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 2: eighty nine, and. 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: Fad Mana has picked up his five hundredth win as 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: a head coach. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Cool in the gang, Baby. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Let's go going all school right there, and I'll tell 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: you what. Still getting it done after all this time 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: is our next guest who joins us on the Payless 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: Liquors hotline, the one the only fad Maa into the 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: five hundred win club in college basketball. Good morning, coach, congratulations. 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: I know it's better for you just to end the 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: losing streak for Butler, but that had to feel good 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: all the way around. 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 5: You're definitely right, there's no question about it. And I 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 5: like to cool in a gang lead in. You know, 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 5: it takes me back to high school when that song 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 5: came out. But now you know it's been an amazing 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: twenty one years. And I think from the standpoint of 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 5: as you said, you know, ending the losing streak was 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: the most prevalent thing on my mind. And you know, 31 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: I give our guys a lot of credit. They've continued 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 5: to fight, they've continued to scrape and claw, and that 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 5: was a k a road win for us the other night, 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: considering all the circumstances, and you know, we've got to 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: get ourselves ready to go again. Here we've got another 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 5: short turnaround. It's been you know, from Wednesday or I'm 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 5: sorry Sunday Wednesday to now Saturday, one thirty tip, that's 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 5: been a heck of a week for us. 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: Sad again, congrats on when number five hundred. Do you 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 4: remember the first victory? 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I do? 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: You shall on the A ninety to seventy two I 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: think was a score and never forget that. So it's 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 5: funny we were talking about a lot of the game. 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: They had some friends over last night and we were 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 5: talking about a lot of the games along the way, 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 5: and like I said, it's been an amazing twenty one years. 48 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: Again, Butler and Xavier coming up as that said, one 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: thirty inside of pinkle Field house on Saturday. I saw 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: a couple of different videos, one maybe more Butler centric, 51 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: one kind of your extended college basketball family coach or 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: was there anything that stuck out in kind of reminiscent 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: and watching any of the shoutouts you got from former players, coaches, 54 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: et cetera. 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because my daughter rally made me 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: a video that was I don't know, probably twenty five 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 5: minutes long, and just not only the Butler players, but 58 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: the Xavier players who had the state players, and and uh, 59 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: you know, everybody is going to forget the players that 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 5: I coached along the way. 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: But I never will. 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 5: And I mean, those guys obviously have have made the difference. 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 5: And and uh, I think Brad Stevens probably said it best. 64 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 5: He said, you know, it's amazing when you think about 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 5: you've left the gymnasium five hundred times happy in this profession, 66 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 5: and you know how many games you've gone into and 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 5: saying oooh, I don't know if we can win this thing. 68 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 5: And you know, even the other night, I mean, you know, 69 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 5: Michael Jay, my hat's off to him once again. You 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 5: know I got him in halftime we're up ten or 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 5: whatever it was and he's got his winner park on 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: and and he's like shaking because he's got the chills. 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: He's so sick. 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 5: And he'd been on Ivy's throughout the day just trying 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: to get to play. And and you know, obviously we're 76 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: a little bit depleted anyway, but you know him given 77 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: that type of effort, I mean, those are the things 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: that as a coach you're never going to forget. 79 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: I did want to ask you about a sequence late 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: in the game on Wednesday where I think the ball 81 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: went out of bounds and Drayton Jones was adamant that 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: it was off of Georgetown, and he wanted your bench 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: to challenge. Do you mind taking us through that process? 84 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: Obviously it's a new wrinkle, and I have a feeling 85 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: there's a time or two where you look out on 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: the floor and the player's waving his finger in the 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: air and you're thinking you better be right or else 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: you're gonna be running every ramp Pinkle Field House has 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: ever had. So do you listen to some players and 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: not others? 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: How does that process work for it? 92 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 5: It was funny when I first started coaching, I implemented 93 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: a rule, you always have to tell me the truth 94 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: in the game, because I don't want to argue a 95 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 5: call if you're not telling me the truth. And I 96 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 5: had to kid Ron Lewis, who always I got fouled, coach, 97 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 5: I got fould. I go back and watch to take 98 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: the guy who's like three feet from and uh but no, 99 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: I saw the deflection. And so when Drayton, you know, 100 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 5: reacted to uh check, I felt pretty confident. I didn't 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 5: even want to look at the computer screen because I 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 5: saw the ball change directions if you will. And you know, 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: as I politely said to the ref afterwards, why do 104 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: I have to challenge something that I already knew when 105 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 5: you had six eyes out there? 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: But it was you know, that was the unbelievable play 107 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: by Drakeon. 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 5: I mean just you know, his effort and and uh 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 5: to go after the ball and save it and have 110 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: it deflected was tremendous force. 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: Talk about Findley Bizjack, he had that wrist injury, comes 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: back from that. He was a big part of you 113 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: getting that win the other night. What do we not 114 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: know about this kid that we should know that you 115 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: see every day? 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this was Finn Is just one of 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 5: those guys. He just loves the game of basketball. And 118 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: and I go back to his freshman year when he 119 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 5: wasn't playing as much as he wanted to, and you know, 120 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 5: we'd find out the next morning that he was in 121 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 5: the HRC playing pick up basketball at night with the 122 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 5: with the students. You know, he just he's one of 123 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: those guys that just kind of gets lost in the moment. 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 5: And I think he probably he probably enjoys overtimes more 125 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 5: than anybody else because he gets to keep playing. And 126 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: h I love I love that about Findlay and and uh, 127 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: you know, and when you think about it, he's kind 128 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: of an anomally nowadays the college basketball. 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: Because he's been there for three years. 130 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: And and people are familiar with him and and most 131 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 5: importantly they've seen the growth that he's made as a player, 132 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: and just his development and how his game has grown. 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Is it's a it's a great thing to see. 134 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: Last one for me, coach. So, if I'm Riddy is 135 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: correctly on your Wikipedia page, he says you were born 136 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: in hoopastun, Illinois, that I pronounce it hoops. Then, so 137 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: the place you were born in literally has the word 138 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: hoop in the name. 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're essentially. 140 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: I'm asking, were you born to coach basketball or at 141 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: least play it? 142 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: Is that part of the equation. 143 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 4: I mean literally, it's in the name. But on more 144 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: serious th jokes aside, when did you realize that coaching 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: was something you seriously wanted to do? And what has 146 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: kept it fun for all these years? Because I can't 147 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: imagine you would sacrifice that much of your time in 148 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: your life to the game if you're not enjoying each chapter, 149 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: each version in the ever changing landscape of it. 150 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I was My dad was 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 5: a coach athletic director at the high school and all 152 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 5: I ever wanted to be in life with him and 153 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 5: it was a great role model for me. And you know, 154 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: I was I was raised in the gymnasium. I was 155 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: at the luxury of sitting in the coach's locker room 156 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: after wins, after losses. 157 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: As little kids and just lifting. 158 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: And I knew that that's what I honestly, I just 159 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 5: wanted to be a high school basketball coach. And you know, 160 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: when I graduated from Butler, I said, you know, I 161 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 5: kind of want to give this college thing and try 162 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 5: and got lucky. There's there's no doubt you know, from 163 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: getting a GA spotted at Indiana State for Tates. Luck 164 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 5: and you know, just sort of signing my way, navigating 165 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 5: through and to be in this position i am today, 166 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: I've always considered myself the luckiest guy in the world. 167 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: Coach always are pleasure to speak with. 168 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 5: You. 169 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Go out and build on that. Man, it's fun to watch. 170 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Let's go now, it'd be a fun one tomorrow. There's 171 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: no doubt about that.