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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: JD. Vance is a superhero.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's the Vice President who I sometimes disagree with,

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Speaker 3: but he's taken on fraud. As the President said, hey, JD.

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Speaker 3: You're taking on fraud, and JD said, excellent. And now

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Speaker 3: he's scheduled to speak in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna bring that to you. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Eight three three got Tony eight three three four six

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Speaker 3: that say you get.

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Speaker 2: To be a part of the.

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Speaker 3: Show this is exactly what you would expect to happen

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Speaker 3: after The state of The. Union now it's, okay let's

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Speaker 3: go and deliver on this message and this message Of american,

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Speaker 3: Uplift american, Strength american, Possibility american, future all these things

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Speaker 2: Things let's go to.

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Speaker 1: Work.

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Speaker 2: Excellent we're still hearing about the fallout of The state

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Speaker 3: Union this did not go well at all in any

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Speaker 3: way for The Democratic. Party this has been a, bad

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Speaker 3: bad scene because they forgot the.

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Speaker 2: Basics step, one be, Normal.

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Speaker 3: Just be normal couldn't do, it and they failed miserably

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Speaker 3: at their. Responses they failed miserably on. Reaction and it's

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Speaker 2: Only thing that they're falling apart. On maybe you missed.

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Speaker 2: This this Is Harry.

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Speaker 3: Enton this is the guy who does the numbers over

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Speaker 3: It that the The democrats are on something less simple

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Speaker 3: as a subject they think they're, winning like.

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Speaker 4: Immigration it is so important to, note after all the

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Speaker 4: events In Los, angeles after all the events In minneapolis,

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Speaker 4: have after all the events of the last year on,

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Speaker 4: immigration Can democrats actually take advantage on this?

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Speaker 2: Issue and a look.

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Speaker 4: At the polling suggests actually, no they're in a worse,

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Speaker 4: position in a worse position than they were at this

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Speaker 4: point During Donald trump's first. Term take a look, here

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Speaker 4: trust which party more on? Immigration in twenty, Eighteen democrats

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Speaker 4: That republicans are the ones who have actually have an

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Speaker 4: edge on. Immigration so this whole idea That democrats are

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Speaker 2: Polling that's, right everything that's been going.

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Speaker 4: On in, Fact democrats are in worse position than they

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Speaker 3: Yeah now it's a little hard to really discuss in

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Speaker 3: Five can we discuss what this does tell? US i

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Speaker 3: would argue that what this tells us is that anybody

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Speaker 3: who's willing to believe narrative is willing to believe, anything absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Anything the narrative is not the.

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Speaker 2: ALL i didn't mean to insult. YOU i. Apologize they're

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Speaker 3: Story they're telling a story to move a, math to

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Speaker 2: Reality it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't and the idea that somehow the country is opposed

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Speaker 3: ACTION i think the country could well ask how did

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Speaker 3: two people get? SHOT i think the country can note

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Speaker 5: removed from the. Country not apologizing for. That let's get

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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't like What Donald, trump the president is,

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Speaker 4: Immigration Dem Republican all, right what about border security in? General,

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Speaker 3: Argument and if you're joining Me saturday night For trump

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Speaker 3: whole bunch about. This this is an economic election For.

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Speaker 3: Republicans you only have to win on two or three.

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Speaker 3: i'll be digging into that next. Week republicans are the

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Speaker 3: they have finally gotten into this Is biden's. Mess we're

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Speaker 3: cleaning it. Up and here's what's, happening and here's what's been,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be. Successful and here's what it'll mean to.

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Speaker 3: That they have more explaining to. Do and in, politics

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Speaker 2: It comes to The state of The, Union democrats are.

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Speaker 3: Over he asked the, question do you support The american

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Speaker 3: again this is a conversation about. Narrative The democrats are in,

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Speaker 3: Opposite this is a narrative story that The democrats are

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Speaker 7: Anywhere But i'll have to say This medicaid money grab

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Speaker 7: AS i, said this should be hugely. Bipartisan and the

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Speaker 7: only REASON i think you wouldn't make a move on

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Speaker 7: many of these proposals is.

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Speaker 2: You like to talk about. Fraud no one likes to

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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 3: Fraud we want it. Gone this is a money. Grab

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Speaker 3: are we going to pretend that the fraud doesn't? Exist

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Speaker 3: and we should be, Clear Governor, walls it doesn't just

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Speaker 3: exist in your, state but your state right now is

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Speaker 3: the ground zero for, it because there are a fair

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Speaker 3: amount of people in your state who look the other

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Speaker 3: way when it.

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Speaker 2: Happened and it has been now a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Months of this being, exposed and what are the Moves

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Speaker 3: you're making a lot of lip Service you got your

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Speaker 3: lieutenant governor out, there you, know the one who wants

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Speaker 3: to scream it's okay to mutilate children and call gender

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Speaker 3: affirming care the line fraud that she.

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Speaker 2: Is but you won't do. Anything you're all, Talking you're no.

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Speaker 2: Action billions of. Dollars it isn't Just. Minnesota it isn't Just.

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis we know what's going on In.

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Speaker 3: Ohio we've heard the stories out Of oregon And california

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Speaker 3: and other.

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Speaker 2: Places we want it all. Gone can you.

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Speaker 3: Imagine what we can do if we're not spending billions

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Speaker 3: of dollars on?

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Speaker 2: Bs do the. Math let's let's say.

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Speaker 3: The number isn't nineteen, billion pick a, number let's call

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Speaker 3: it five billion. Dollars can we agree that there's five billion?

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Speaker 3: Dollars weren't the fraud going on out there when it

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Speaker 3: comes to these home health?

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Speaker 2: Services et? Cetera, right.

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Speaker 3: Let's say that that's the. Case CAN i ask a

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Speaker 3: question this? Way how many veterans can we house with

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Speaker 3: five billion dollars a? Year Because i'm willing to keep

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Speaker 3: spending the five billion dollars a year if we spend

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Speaker 3: it on housing, VETERANS i, mean if we're gonna spend the.

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Speaker 3: Money it's a better use of spending the money than.

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Speaker 2: Fraud, Right.

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Speaker 3: Anything that isn't full on enthusiastic of and the fraud

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Speaker 3: can be seen as support of the.

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Speaker 2: Fraud, now is that What Tim walls is.

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Speaker 3: SAYING i don't actually think, so but we're talking about, narrative, Right.

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Speaker 2: Tim wall supports. Fraud there you, Go that's how it.

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Speaker 2: Works I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz. Today