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Speaker 1: of the National Football League. Good afternoon to you. My

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Speaker 1: Finch is filling in, and we've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a dumb guy. I think there

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Speaker 1: absolutely zilch zero not a nothing to do with what

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Speaker 1: And I flipped flopped like a goldfish when I said,

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Speaker 1: nothing to be gained by Jones per se and they failed,

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Speaker 5: Just what we've never heard about is his Anthony Richardson's

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Speaker 1: Well? And but I think they have I think I

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Speaker 1: Pete's gone. If you've ever have you ever tried to

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Speaker 1: But they've stopped shy of coming out and saying, Look,

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Speaker 6: The cults are at fault. I can't blame Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 6: You got a twenty year old kid that played twelve

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Speaker 1: Flacco at all, but I'm saying, if if there was

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Speaker 1: any insinuation from Flaco that hey, I don't want to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, teacher here, I'm here to play quarterback, then

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Speaker 1: they should have gone with another guy and looked no

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Speaker 1: further than the fact of the Manning Luck situation, because

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Speaker 1: everybody and their brother now retroactively looks back and says

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Speaker 1: they should have just drafted Andrew Luck and kept Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning and handed off the torch after a year or

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Speaker 1: two to see what was left with Manning in his

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Speaker 1: neck and to give that proper opportunity, And they didn't

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Speaker 1: do it well. In reality, Manning apparently made it pretty

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Speaker 1: clear that's I'm not interested in that. Nothing against Andrew Locke,

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Speaker 1: but I'm here to be the quarterback of the Colts.

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Speaker 1: So they knew precedent in that regard. From Cincinnati standpoint,

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Speaker 1: what could the Bengals show that is going to be

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Speaker 1: of assistance to Shane Steichen and the Colts? And perhaps

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Speaker 1: is there anybody in Cincinnati that might help Indianapolis this season.

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Speaker 1: Ben Baby is with ESPN. He covers the Bengals. He

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Speaker 1: joins us.

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Speaker 7: Next query in Company on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 7: oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: The fan, So we'll see if we can get a

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Speaker 1: hold of Ben Baby and get him on the program.

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Speaker 1: Here Colts and Bengals coming up. That is tomorrow, preseason

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Speaker 1: game number three. On a side note, yesterday and I

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Speaker 1: kind of blame Eddie for this, but we were discussing

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think of what it was we

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Speaker 1: were talking about, and Eddie said, we are already into

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Speaker 1: and I can't remember what it was. So he was

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Speaker 1: at and yesterday we discussed this, is this a savior

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Speaker 1: job season for the Colts? Is this a season where

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Speaker 1: for Chris Ballard, for Shane Steichen, hell, for that matter,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson? Is this a savior job? I want to

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Speaker 1: still be living in Indianapolis a year from now season four?

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Speaker 1: Those individuals, I mean a lot of people, And I

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Speaker 1: truthfully don't know that we know the answer to that

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Speaker 1: just yet because we don't know exactly where carly erse

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Speaker 1: Gordon falls in those things, and we don't have precedent.

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Speaker 1: I mean that I know that that's I should actually

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Speaker 1: for this show for Quarry and Company. I believe that

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Speaker 1: I can't remember, you know, Eddie's the president of the company.

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Speaker 1: I should label myself now as simply the president of precedent,

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Speaker 1: because I'm a big believer in precedent and looking at

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Speaker 1: the history with people and what it means in terms

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Speaker 1: of how they will react to situations. And in Jim

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Speaker 1: er Say's case, we kind of had precedent as to

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Speaker 1: the least that he gave to people when things didn't

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Speaker 1: work out. And we don't know with Carlie Ursa Gordon

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Speaker 1: what her approach is to that. We don't have the

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Speaker 1: precedent to know that. But when Eddie was talking about

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Speaker 1: whether or not it's that kind of a season, he

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Speaker 1: brought up a different kind of season that I thought

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Speaker 1: was premature. And then in what's known as the Beta

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Speaker 1: Minhoff phenomenon, I noticed it yesterday everywhere the season that

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Speaker 1: he mentioned. And I will get to all of that

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Speaker 1: in just a minute. But before we go there, let's

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Speaker 1: go to Cincinnati. We're joining us now on the Always

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Speaker 1: and Today Very Busy and Available to be Sponsored guest

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Speaker 1: line Ben Baby is a return guest of the program.

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Speaker 1: He covers the Bengals for ESPN dot Com. Ben Busy Time,

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Speaker 1: I realize certainly appreciate the time. Let's begin with this

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Speaker 1: and that is from Indianapolis's standpoint, you probably are not

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Speaker 1: going to see anybody or very few people that you

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Speaker 1: will regularly see on Sundays. What is the Bengals approach

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Speaker 1: to this game?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I think that you're just not gonna

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Speaker 8: see a whole lot of starters. Zach Taylor said that

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Speaker 8: they're not anticipating those starters to play in that game.

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Speaker 8: So we'll even see Jake Browning, the backup quarterback, gets

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Speaker 8: some run there. I think you're still a lot of

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Speaker 8: Desert Rudder and Peyton Thorne. But you know, as teams,

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Speaker 8: you know, the Bengals had a pretty extensive scrimmage yesterday

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Speaker 8: fifty one plays I believe, so that was essentially their

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Speaker 8: final dress rehearsal for the decoming season. But you know,

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of people wonder should the defense

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Speaker 8: be out there because they did not look great in

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Speaker 8: these first two preseason games.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the big storylines in Cincinnati has

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Speaker 1: been the situation clearly with Trey Hendrickson. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you have a player of that level in capability and talent,

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Speaker 1: and then you know that there is obviously a divide

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Speaker 1: between player and franchise, and seemingly every day, the storyline changes,

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Speaker 1: and if in the last twelve hours it has changed again,

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Speaker 1: my apology, Geez, where do things stand right now?

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Speaker 8: You know, it's funny sometimes, you know some of that,

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Speaker 8: some of that change can be perception, but in reality,

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Speaker 8: it's a lot of it stayed the same over the

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Speaker 8: last couple of weeks or so in terms of you

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Speaker 8: know what's going on, and you know, and from Monday night,

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Speaker 8: Trey told our Laura Rutledge that you know that the

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Speaker 8: sides are in agreement on the length and the total value,

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Speaker 8: which is what we had heard for weeks now, and

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Speaker 8: then the same thing still stands is that the guaranteed

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Speaker 8: money is the hold up in terms of that deal,

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Speaker 8: and so can both sides find a middle ground on

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Speaker 8: the guaranteed money. For Trey, that's been the biggest thing

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Speaker 8: the entire time, you know, going back to when he

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Speaker 8: started talking to us in April about it, and we

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Speaker 8: knew even at the end of last season that this

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Speaker 8: was going to be a problem with Trey and getting

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Speaker 8: him under contracts that he likes for this year because

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Speaker 8: he still has a year left. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 8: been for the Bengals to kind of maybe for you know,

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Speaker 8: continue to change their precedent on guaranteed money for veterans.

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Speaker 8: They just do not like doing it after the year.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And I think for a player like Trey been a

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Speaker 8: four time Pro Bowl or an All Pro, you could

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Speaker 8: argue that if the beanng will say, listen, we're not

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Speaker 8: going to do it for everybody, but if you're at

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Speaker 8: to play at an All Pro level, it's something we'll do

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Speaker 8: when contracts come up. I think that would be fair.

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Speaker 8: That would allow them to maintain their positioning and negotiating

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Speaker 8: in future years. Will also make sure they accommodate their

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Speaker 8: best players. And I think that it's probably is everyone's

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Speaker 8: trying to find a way to move forward and find

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Speaker 8: a solution that works. But right now, I think it's

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Speaker 8: going to take post sides coming to the middle a

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Speaker 8: little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Ben Baby our guests from ESPN dot Com Bengals beat

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Speaker 1: writer Ben Indianapolis is a franchise that has been, albeit

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Speaker 1: pretty peripherally, linked as a possibility of one that would

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Speaker 1: be interested to dance with Trey Hendrickson. But it takes

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Speaker 1: two to ten ago obviously, and the Bengals would have

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Speaker 1: to work in that as well. Is that wishful thinking,

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Speaker 1: or do you believe that the Colts are in fact

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Speaker 1: an organization that Cincinnati could pick up and make a

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Speaker 1: phone call towards.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's interesting. I do not think the Colts are

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Speaker 8: a player in this. You know, it's funny. My college

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Speaker 8: Stephen Holder and I we talked about this at length

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Speaker 8: and talk to our sources, and I just do not

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Speaker 8: think that the Colts seem like a contrary to what's

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Speaker 8: out there. I do not think that they're a viable

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Speaker 8: option for them. And to be honest with you, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think it's going to be tough for anybody to

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Speaker 8: really trade with Trare Henderson right now. You look at

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Speaker 8: what they're what trade is looking to make, and it's

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Speaker 8: never been top of market, but you know you're looking

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Speaker 8: to get in that. You know he's looking to get

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Speaker 8: in that. You know that upper tier range of top

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Speaker 8: edge rushers, which you know his production warrants that. I

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Speaker 8: think the age questions a concern. So the team that

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Speaker 8: you know, trade for him not only has to pay

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Speaker 8: him that amount, but also has to give up the

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Speaker 8: assets for the Bengals support to make sense to give

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Speaker 8: up an all Pro player. And I think at this

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Speaker 8: stage in the offseason. It's very rare for that to occur.

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Speaker 8: When you look at trades that that are happening right now,

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Speaker 8: you see in a lot of guys who are maybe

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Speaker 8: on the back end of rosters or maybe expiring contracts

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Speaker 8: that are of much lower value. You know, Jalen Ramsey's

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Speaker 8: probably the most notable trade that happened recently. But then

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Speaker 8: you look at it, Makeup Fitzpatrick was attached to that

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Speaker 8: as well, So you know, I think that when you

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Speaker 8: look at viable trade partners suits late in the offseason,

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Speaker 8: that's a really big ask. But regardless, I just the

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Speaker 8: Colts being a player in that that doesn't think it

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Speaker 8: make sense at this moment.

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Speaker 1: Ben, I want to go to and I appreciate the time,

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Speaker 1: Ben Baby our guest. When you look at you know,

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is what would you say, a top five

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL top three, you can make the

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Speaker 1: argument he's the most accurate passer. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's right there in the upper echelon clearly right. And

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Speaker 1: yet he is a guy that kind of took college

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Speaker 1: football by storm when he got to LSU, and it

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Speaker 1: was like, where in the world did this come from?

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Speaker 1: And you wondered what it would mean and translate to

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Speaker 1: him as an NFL player. It seemingly did not miss

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Speaker 1: a beat. How much of sitting and learning and being

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Speaker 1: forced to prove himself at Ohio State and then having

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Speaker 1: to go to LSU to even get a second lease

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Speaker 1: do you think still drives Joe Burrow? What kind of

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Speaker 1: a guy does he seem to be outside of what

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Speaker 1: we see on the field.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's funny because I think I learned a lot

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Speaker 8: about him last year when they were four and eight,

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Speaker 8: five and eight, six and eight. It's the same guy

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Speaker 8: every day, and whether it's in the middle of the

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Speaker 8: offseason with can be after an Ota and he feels

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Speaker 8: like he didn't have a great performance, he is as

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Speaker 8: pissed off as as you will find after, you know,

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Speaker 8: after a regular season loss. I mean that guy every

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Speaker 8: day of the year. It seems like every practice he

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Speaker 8: wants to go out there and absolutely crush it. Every

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Speaker 8: rep is almost like life and death. I think it's

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Speaker 8: funny that Joe Buck last week on the Monday night

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Speaker 8: gave and go down Joe with August and I was like,

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Speaker 8: in my mind, I'm like, I don't think Joe's Augers

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Speaker 8: fans what that means. It doesn't matter if it's August, March, December, whatever.

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Speaker 8: If he's out there, it's not for him to make

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Speaker 8: a play. I think he only knows one speed. I

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Speaker 8: think that's been a bigger reason why he's been so

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Speaker 8: successful over the course of his career. Had a wonderful

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Speaker 8: high school career. I think that time at Ohio State

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Speaker 8: really tested him because he felt like he was good

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Speaker 8: enough to be on the field and never materialized. And

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Speaker 8: you know, I'll be honest, that first year at LSU,

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Speaker 8: he wasn't blowing people away.

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Speaker 9: I was.

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Speaker 8: I covered the SEC that year, I was on the

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Speaker 8: I've covered Joe Burrow's last college loss of seven overtime

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Speaker 8: loss at A and M when I was with Dallas

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Speaker 8: Morning News. I don't think anybody watched LSU that year

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Speaker 8: and thought this was a guy who was going to

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Speaker 8: end up lighting the world on fire. I mean, also,

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Speaker 8: we probably in hindsight should have said that Matt Cannada

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Speaker 8: should never be an offensive coordinator again. Inexplicably, the Steel

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Speaker 8: has hired him despite what he did at LS with

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Speaker 8: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. So I think that there

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Speaker 8: are some factors that play there. But he's a guy

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Speaker 8: that has driven more than anybody you'll find in the

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Speaker 8: locker room. And I know that in the NFL. It's

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Speaker 8: crazy to say this, but that is rare. It's rare

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Speaker 8: to find people who every day are very much committed

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Speaker 8: to being great at their craft. I think that the

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Speaker 8: truly great ones they understand that at a high level.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you can gather Ben the reason I

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Speaker 1: ask it. And I know that you don't cover the colts,

653
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Speaker 1: but you and Steven, you know, I know, speak fairly

654
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Speaker 1: regularly and maybe bounce things off on another. Steven hold

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Speaker 1: of your colleague Anthony Richardson kind of was in a

656
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Speaker 1: similar situation, did not have a lot of starts at Florida,

657
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Speaker 1: came in and was kind of handed the keys. But

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it seems as though, like because Burrow

659
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Speaker 1: would be kind of a good comp more success in

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Speaker 1: college obviously, right, But seemingly Burrow, I'm assuming, is the

661
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Speaker 1: guy that it feels like is there at like five

662
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and leaves at eight o'clock at night.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that at all. It just seems that

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Speaker 1: way because there has not been a drop off of

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Speaker 1: intensity at any point with him, and it feels like

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Speaker 1: that lacks in Richardson and I wonder if it's because

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Speaker 1: of the fact that Burrow had something denied to him

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Speaker 1: in his career at some point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to make any unfair assumptions on Anthony's

671
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Speaker 8: work ethic. You know, I've only heard great things about him,

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Speaker 8: and I you know, everything I've heard seemed to be

673
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Speaker 8: he wants to be someone wants to go out and

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Speaker 8: compete at a really high level. I think what's tough

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Speaker 8: is that, you know, a lot of times when you

676
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Speaker 8: have the undeniable arm talent that Anthony has. I think

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Speaker 8: that brow last year he made Week one, which is incredible.

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Speaker 8: I can't real if it was Week one or not,

679
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Speaker 8: but the one where he just just fired at ball

680
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Speaker 8: seventy yards down the middle. I mean that is not common.

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Speaker 8: That is that is not a whole lot of people

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Speaker 8: that can do that. I think what's tough is and

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Speaker 8: you saw this that you have to get the reps.

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Speaker 8: And I think it's a mix of both. You know,

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Speaker 8: Joe did learn at Ohio State for three years, but

686
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Speaker 8: then he got two years of reps at LSU, and

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Speaker 8: then you know, if we're gonna be honest, he wasn't

688
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Speaker 8: really what right in the world on fire his rookie

689
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Speaker 8: year either, and you know, his sophomore year in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: You know, the defense really is the reason why they

691
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Speaker 8: had a really good season. That Burrough played well in Spurts,

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Speaker 8: but I think if you go and look at the numbers,

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Speaker 8: he really didn't come into his own until his third year.

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Speaker 8: And what helped Joe was that he was in a

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Speaker 8: really stable situation. Zach Taylor built everything around Joe. The

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Speaker 8: Bengals built everything around Joe. Held the whole city he

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Speaker 8: has built around Joe. At this point, he had consistency

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Speaker 8: as offensive four nater, his quarterback coach and that, and

699
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Speaker 8: and they gave him good receivers as well. It helps him.

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Speaker 8: You get your your your old college teammate who you

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Speaker 8: have a lot of chemistry with to come in and

702
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Speaker 8: when you need a play, you can go out and

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Speaker 8: do that. So he was well supported as well. But

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Speaker 8: it wasn't like he came in overnight and looks like

705
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Speaker 8: and played at an MPP level. In fact, he's had

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Speaker 8: to get a lot better over time. You know, talking

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Speaker 8: about you know, there was a lot of conversation about

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Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson and that and that Blizzy took in the

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Speaker 8: preseason opener. Joe Burrow had a ton of bunch, you know,

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Speaker 8: he had a bunch of free rushers as a rookie.

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Speaker 8: I mean they came from everywhere and over the years

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Speaker 8: just what they don't come as austen and it comes

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Speaker 8: with reps. And so I think for Anthony, you know,

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Speaker 8: getting those reps it would have been helpful, would have

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Speaker 8: been beneficial. Unfortunately, he's had a lot of injury problems.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, you have a fun office and

717
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 8: a coaching staff that's consistently trying to prove uh where

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Speaker 8: that they belong and that they should, you know, keep

719
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Speaker 8: their jobs essentially, and I think that makes you know,

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Speaker 8: the timelines for these quarterbacks to get the reps that

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Speaker 8: it shortens that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: BENBABYESPN dot Com is where you can read his work.

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Speaker 1: Of course you see him on the network as well,

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Speaker 1: covering the Cincinnati Bengals. Ben appreciate the time as always.

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Speaker 10: Man, Yeah, thank you all.

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Speaker 1: I've been Baby joining us on the program. Interesting stuff,

727
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Speaker 1: especially when you consider, you know, Joe Burrow and just

728
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Speaker 1: I mean the high level that he is playing, and

729
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Speaker 1: that goes to show how big that is when you

730
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Speaker 1: get a franchise quarterback at that level and what it

731
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Speaker 1: means for of course having Jamar Chase t Higgins that

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Speaker 1: that clearly helps as well, no question about that. All right,

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Speaker 1: when we come back into existence, and it kind of

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Speaker 1: irritated me yesterday, we will get into that, and coming

735
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Speaker 1: up in the one o'clock hour, we are going to

736
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Speaker 1: give away our last spot within the Fantasy League as

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Speaker 1: well on a Friday edition Querying Company on the Fan.

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Speaker 7: Query in Company on ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 7: seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: So when we were talking yesterday about whether or not

741
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Speaker 1: this is a save your job season for the Colts,

742
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Speaker 1: and by the way, Kyle Drip coming up forty minutes

743
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Speaker 1: from now Litle High schoo football Chat James Boyd two o'clock.

744
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Speaker 1: But when we were discussing that, Eddie said, and let

745
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus Finch. Okay,

746
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: from a marketing standpoint, and I'm talking about when you

747
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Speaker 1: go through the store. I mean back in the days

748
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Speaker 1: when they were still around, and I still like the

749
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: fashion mall is still around or you know whatever. How

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Speaker 1: many different periods in the yearly calendar are there that

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Speaker 1: are themes for stores, like merchandising and retail themes. In

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Speaker 1: let's start, We'll start at the beginning of the year. Okay,

753
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Speaker 1: so on January one, give me, like, what's the next

754
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Speaker 1: big event on the calendar that stores are centered around

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day's probably correct, right, So you got

756
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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, so that goes obviously into then February fifteenth,

757
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Speaker 1: you get the fifty percent off candy sale. Everybody's happy.

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Speaker 1: What's the next thing that, like, all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: you start to see stuff popping up in the store.

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Speaker 11: Is that Easter that we hit next?

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Speaker 1: I think you could maybe say Saint Patrick's Day? Okay,

762
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Speaker 1: a couple of I mean you might see like one

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Speaker 1: little section of green stuff or you know, the proportion

764
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Speaker 1: of a green beer or something. But for the most part, yes,

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Speaker 1: Easter would absolutely be you know, the Easter candy and

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Okay, so you got Easter and then and

767
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Speaker 1: this is a bit of a tricky curveball here Easter

768
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Speaker 1: is done, and then on that Monday you get into

769
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Speaker 1: what so now you're into now in Indianapolis, you're you're

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Speaker 1: on the heels of the month that you're you're right

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Speaker 1: on the precipice of the month of May. But we're

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Speaker 1: going to take out like any sort of like checkered

773
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Speaker 1: flag stuff from a national standpoint, what's the next thing

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Speaker 1: on the calendar? Summer?

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Speaker 11: And then fourth of July, but that might be a

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Speaker 11: little too.

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Speaker 1: Far, So fourth of July, which means all of a sudden,

778
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Speaker 1: now everywhere you turn their fireworks stores popping up, right,

779
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Speaker 1: these Tipperary pop up firework stores. So you got your

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Speaker 1: fireworks now. As soon as the fourth of July is

781
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Speaker 1: over with, you kind of hit this lull, right, this

782
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Speaker 1: weird period where everybody's just outside and there's no big thing.

783
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Speaker 1: But then what becomes the next thing?

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Speaker 12: They have Halloween stuff out right now. It's okay, yes, stupid, Yes,

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Speaker 12: this is my point. So yesterday, Eddie makes the mistake

786
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Speaker 12: of mentioning the fact Eddie makes the mistake of mentioning

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Speaker 12: the fact that we're right around the corner from pumpkin

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Speaker 12: spice season. Oh yeah, and I go, there's no and

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Speaker 12: I know.

790
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Speaker 1: That this is like the lamest topic ever because it's

791
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Speaker 1: become almost a joke. But I'm like, no, no, no,

792
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. The pumpkin spice thing is a thing,

793
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Speaker 1: for sure. But usually that's you start getting into. At

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Speaker 1: the very least you're within sniffing distance of the Covered

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Speaker 1: Bridge Festival, which I think is like September. Right yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I had to go pick up my six prescriptions. It's

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Speaker 1: big pharma, but I have what's called the cardiac cocktail.

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Speaker 1: And might I add, do we have the breaking news sounder?

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Speaker 1: By any chance?

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Speaker 13: We will?

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Speaker 1: Second? Just out of curiosity, might I add, do we

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Speaker 1: happen to have the breaking news sounder?

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Speaker 7: We go?

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Speaker 1: This was breaking news thirty seconds ago. No, So the

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Speaker 1: breaking news is that yesterday I found out that. And

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Speaker 1: I'm the only person that cares about this, but I

807
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: think I mentioned it once yesterday. I'm taking off of

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Speaker 1: one of my medications, one of my heart med's I've

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Speaker 1: graduated from, thank you very much. I've graduated from one

810
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Speaker 1: of my medications. So that's two of them now that

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Speaker 1: i'm no longer on, and I'm very thankful for that.

812
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Speaker 1: But I went to go pick them up, and I'm

813
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Speaker 1: in the store and I turn around and look and

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Speaker 1: I am surrounded by and absorbed by pumpkin spice mania.

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Speaker 1: I mean there was an entire literally at the end

816
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Speaker 1: of every aisle was a pump with different pumpkin spice something.

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Speaker 1: And then just as I was jumping at this, as

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Speaker 1: I thought, whoa, and I made a jump, I turned

819
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Speaker 1: around and right behind me was Halloween candy. Right, Like,

820
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Speaker 1: what in the world is going on? It's We're not

821
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Speaker 1: even in September. We're accelerating everything. Kids went back to

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Speaker 1: school like at Easter right literally from summer, we just

823
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Speaker 1: keep moving everything further and further back. And I blame

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Speaker 1: Eddie for it. Eddie is the cold that Yeah, Eddie

825
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: is the culprit. There was something else actually that happened

826
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Speaker 1: in terms of like weird marketing stuff that made big news.

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Speaker 1: I'll mention that in a minute. But we need to

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Speaker 1: get back into the Colts conversation and we need to

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Speaker 1: as well. You're giving me a hand gesture, Nathaniel.

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Speaker 11: It's a little thirty seconds, yes, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we will get into the one o'clock hour. We

832
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Speaker 1: have the last spot to give away for our Fantasy

833
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Speaker 1: League draft, and we will do exactly that coming up

834
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Speaker 1: in just a couple of minutes. But you have to

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Speaker 1: be willing and able to be at the Greenwood Chicago's

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Speaker 1: Who is not willing to be at the Greenwich Chicago's

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Speaker 1: pizza because Chicago's pizza is fabulous. Don't even get me

838
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: started on how awesome their lunch buffet is and their

839
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Speaker 1: dedication to community and a story told in every slice.

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Speaker 1: But seven o'clock Monday night, we're going to have our draft.

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00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: We will give away the last spot, and we will

842
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: do it in just about fifteen minutes from right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back back into the Colts conversation and the

844
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: quarterback saga, if you will, even though it's resolved, But

845
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Speaker 1: is it? I'll explain next.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to Query and Company on ninety three five

847
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 7: and one oh seven five the Fan.

848
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: So we were discussing the quarterback situation for the Colts,

849
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: and the question becomes, for example, what happens if Jason

850
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: Bean comes out and absolutely outplays Riley Leonard or what

851
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: happens if Ryley Leonard goes out and has an unbelievable

852
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: performance both in the air and the ground. Do you

853
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: then say, you know what, we've seen everything we need

854
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: to see out of Anthony Richardson and Riley leonards are backup,

855
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: and Anthony Richardson, we're putting a sign of the front

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00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: yard make an offer. I don't think that's going to

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00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: be the case, but you never know, right, You simply

858
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: never know. And Jason Bean is intriguing because and look

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00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: in under no stretch of the imagination, am I pretending

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about quarterbacks that are going to get

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00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: significant reps this season? And if they do, at that

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00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: point it's Katie bar the door. But he is a

863
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: guy that you can tell that they've had a little

864
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: bit of intrigue of just kind of his unpredictability in

865
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: a good way at the quarterback position, Jason Bean, because

866
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: he's kind of he's athletic, and he kind of bops

867
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: around and he just has a moxy about him that

868
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: you like. But I don't know that it's a moxie

869
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: that necessarily translates into the NFL. But the Colts have

870
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: clearly gone back and extended that invitation of continuing to

871
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: get more looks from him. Practice squad guy and Riley Leonard.

872
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people that think, Hey,

873
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: is Riley Leonard somebody that you know what, when we

874
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: talk about if Richardson, if they've turned that page and

875
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones just kind of holds water for you,

876
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: is the next guy that they took a long, hard

877
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: look at right there on the roster, and he's somebody

878
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: that they you know, maybe tomorrow goes a long way

879
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: in that it's entirely possible. But I want to play

880
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: for you something that indicates and maybe tips the hand

881
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: a little bit on where the Colts are in terms

882
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: of their kind of understanding of the Anthony Richardson situation.

883
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: But before I do so, we'll squeeze in a couple

884
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: of calls. Mo from Ohio. Mo, what's going on?

885
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 9: Not a whole lot? Jacob in the in the classroom,

886
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 9: I've got at a conference? Periodis sun here? Or so?

887
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: You're something that subject we teaching today?

888
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 14: Mo?

889
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 9: Well, we got math today. But I was a retired

890
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 9: history teacher, so it's kind of out of my element.

891
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this, My history of math sucks.

892
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean I follow that. I'm fifty

893
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: to fifty on that. Okay, your thoughts on Because Mo,

894
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: I realize you're a longtime Colts fan. You make the

895
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: drive each and every home game from Ohio. Your thoughts

896
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: now going into the season with this last preseason game

897
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: being in your home state.

898
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't have a problem with the Daniel Jones ar.

899
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 15: I don't know.

900
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 9: I'll go with either one because I'm a fan, but

901
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 9: but my concern is that the head coach GM, the

902
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 9: organization upfront is not upfront with the fans a lot.

903
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 9: There's a lot of talking in circles. And it's kind

904
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 9: of funny. You had a commercial about five minutes ago

905
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 9: that talked about honesty and integrity, and I don't see

906
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 9: that with the head coach GM. And I don't know

907
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 9: who's the blame of that. I know there's certain things

908
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 9: that in the NFL.

909
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 16: You don't want to let out of the bag and

910
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 16: stuff like that, but I think that's kind of some

911
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 16: of the root of the whole problem with fans being

912
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 16: in the state that they are is we're always guessing,

913
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 16: We're always in the dark. The head coach can't explain

914
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 16: realistically healthy why.

915
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 9: Decisions are made. And I know you you can't do

916
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 9: that as an organization all the time, but sometimes just

917
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 9: to put the fan base to calm down, if you

918
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 9: just talk to them and look them in the eye

919
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 9: a little bit and then follow through with the things

920
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 9: that you say. I think it would go a long way,

921
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 9: and I don't see that.

922
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder this, Okay, do you think it's

923
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: possible that Shane Steiken has been speaking in cryptic tongue,

924
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the quarterback situation, because of

925
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: the delicacy of the fact that it was very aware

926
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: to Shane Steke, who is a quarterback whisperer at a

927
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: very young period of the career of Anthony Richardson that

928
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: he didn't have it.

929
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 9: Yes, I agree with that.

930
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know what I mean. And

931
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: again and MO, I appreciate the call. I want to

932
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: be sure that people understand in no way, shape or form,

933
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: am I saying that is any sort of an indictment

934
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: on the car. I have no reason to believe that

935
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is other than a nice young guy, and

936
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm pulling for the guy I am, and I don't

937
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: you know. When I see him, I see at times

938
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: very intriguing things. But Steichen has made it very clear

939
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: that this seemingly goes above and beyond what we are

940
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: seeing on the field, and that this is stuff that

941
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: is an indictment on what's taking place. Again, I go

942
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: back to listen to to the and we're gonna hear

943
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: from Cam Turner in just a second. Who is the

944
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach who has worked with Anthony Richardson more than

945
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: anybody else on a one on one basis. Probably, But

946
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: listen to Shane steiken from what we talked about earlier, okay,

947
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: in terms of Anthony Richardson and how he can develop

948
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: without actually going out and taking snaps, because when you

949
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: look at it, you go, Okay, he's only had so

950
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: many starts, and each time that he starts to get

951
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: footing underneath them, it falls backwards because of an injury

952
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: or other such things. So this is Shane Stikeen talking

953
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: about how Anthony Richardson can develop and continue to grow

954
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: without being on the field.

955
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think you still got to get the mental

956
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: reps in the meeting day in and day out.

957
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: I think that that's part of the development.

958
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: And then when you are on the scout team, I

959
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 3: think you can still work on your fundamentals and your

960
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: technique and going through it and going after the defense

961
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: you on the scout team.

962
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: I think that's all part of.

963
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: It mental reps in the meeting. We're in year three.

964
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: We're in year three, and basically what that is is

965
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: that is the head coach saying hoping that he still

966
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: figures out the mental reps in the meeting in year three. Now,

967
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: I remember one of the first jobs I ever had

968
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: as an adult. I worked at the cigar store. Best

969
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: job ever, with all due respect to this one. Loved it,

970
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: loved everything about Hardwick's pipe and tobacco. It was the best.

971
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: It was the absolute best. And I still maintained that

972
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: I could commit a horrific crime and be doing a

973
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: purp walk in the orange suit on the eleven o'clock

974
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: news and people will look at it and immediately go,

975
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: that's a cigar guy. Because I sold cigars for eight

976
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: years in broader Pool and I loved every single minute.

977
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: But I digress in that capacity. I had a guy

978
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: that owned a business in town that said, you know what,

979
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: do you want to make a little bit more money

980
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: and come work for my company? And I said yeah,

981
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: And I had no qualification at all, but I had

982
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: raw talent. I was charismatic, so he told me I

983
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: had you know, I was out going and could talk

984
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: to people, because when I was in the cigar store,

985
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: that's I did you know, trivia for a tutsi pop

986
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: and other such things, and he's like, I think he

987
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: can come work for my company and do really well.

988
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: And I went in there and I kind of didn't

989
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: know what my role was. I just knew that I

990
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: appreciated that he believed in what I could bring to

991
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: the table. But he got kind of distracted and doing

992
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: other things within the company itself and within the business,

993
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: and I just kind of sat there every day like

994
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is that I'm supposed to do.

995
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: And I showed up every day. At the time, I mean,

996
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: it was an eight to five job, and I got

997
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: there at like seven fifty every day and I stayed

998
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: till five and just kind of went through the motions.

999
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: And I was there because I had a lot of

1000
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: the raw things they were looking for, but in terms

1001
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: of the true understanding of what the job entailed and

1002
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: what was expected of me, I never really understood what

1003
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: my job was and I never really understood what they

1004
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: were wanting me to develop into. And one day he

1005
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: came to me and said, you know what, I don't

1006
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: like your work ethic at all, because you come in

1007
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: and you just sit and go through the motions. And

1008
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: I remember at the time being like, but you haven't

1009
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: shown me what the motions are supposed to be. But

1010
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: what I now know, as an adult who's been through

1011
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: some professional things, is that it was my job to

1012
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: understand and figure out what it was that was expected.

1013
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: It was my job to take the abilities that I

1014
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: had that allowed me the opportunity to be inside that

1015
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: office and parlay them and grow them into what it

1016
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: was and mold it into what it was that they

1017
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: wanted me to be. And I never grasped that marriage

1018
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: of what they saw in me and then what it

1019
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: was that I was supposed to then beyond that. And

1020
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: I think there's an element of that with Anthony Richardson.

1021
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: I think part of that's being twenty one to twenty

1022
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: two years old, twenty three years old, which is what

1023
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: I was in that situation. I was wide eyed, in naive,

1024
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: and I think that you have exactly that which takes

1025
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: us to Cam Turner, the quarterbacks coach of the Colts,

1026
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: when he was asked about and primarily by James Boyd,

1027
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: He's going to join us at two o'clock These are

1028
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: great questions. Cam Turner, who comes from a football family

1029
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: and comes from a family of you know, Ron Turner

1030
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: and Norv Turner, I mean, great football minds. But Cam Turner,

1031
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 1: a young guy, has worked with quarterbacks before and when

1032
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: he was working and was assigned specifically to Anthony Richardson.

1033
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: And yet Richardson apparently was me at that AD agency

1034
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: of just like, I'm not sure. I know, I appreciate that.

1035
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing everything that I'm supposed to do,

1036
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: but what more are you wanting me to do? Cam

1037
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: Turner talked about the that exact dynamic when it comes

1038
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: to Anthony.

1039
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: Richardson as a position coach.

1040
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: You know, you want to see your guys succeed and

1041
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: be successful naturally, and you know, I feel like I've

1042
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: tried everything I can do, you know, And I feel

1043
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: like he's given a great effort in that aspect too.

1044
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: And I don't think either way it's one or the other.

1045
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: I just think, you.

1046
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 4: Know, right now is not where the consistency is, just

1047
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: not where we.

1048
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 15: Wanted it to be.

1049
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: So I tried everything I can do. Pretty funny, listen

1050
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: when when Bob came to me at that AD agency

1051
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: and said, look, you're What you are doing here is

1052
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: not what we need. At least he didn't say this

1053
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: to me. I've tried everything I can do. That's not

1054
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: a great endorsement. I've tried everything I can do. When

1055
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: I hear that, I'm thinking, I've tried everything I can do. Really,

1056
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: that ain't good.

1057
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 11: Sounds like he's given up. I've tried.

1058
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm done. It does That's exactly what that sounds like.

1059
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly what that sounds like. I've tried everything I

1060
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: can do. Listen. I I do auto racing play by

1061
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: play for a living in addition to this, and I

1062
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: see times where there's a car that everybody knows is

1063
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: an unbelievable car in the Indy five hundred. It's the

1064
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: fastest out there, it's great and qualifying. Everything about it's perfect,

1065
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: and then the car comes in for some reason during

1066
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: the race it's just not going well. I remember Jimmy Vasser.

1067
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I was in the pits for two years and Jimmy

1068
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: Vasser one time had a car. It was Miller Lite

1069
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: was the sponsor, and they brought it in and I

1070
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: was there and I'm like, what's going on with this car?

1071
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: Because it was Ray Hall Letterman, and they had a

1072
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: good car and a good team, and they and Vasser's

1073
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: climbing out of the car and they said, to me,

1074
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: you know what we there was there's something a gremlin

1075
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: within that engine. And we've tried everything we can do.

1076
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: We brought him in for several pit stops, and we

1077
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: tried everything we could do, and then finally they just said,

1078
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: this car just doesn't have it. And that's exactly what

1079
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: that sounds like. We've tried everything we can do. Speaking

1080
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: of speedway, Matt's there two nine, ten seventy, not at

1081
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Butter Speedway, but that area of town. Thoughts

1082
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: on Turner, what's up, Matt Hey?

1083
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 8: I just find it interesting that I don't think they

1084
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 8: have to cut bait with this guy.

1085
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 17: I mean, you've got him under contract this year, next year,

1086
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 17: and you can pick up his option the year after

1087
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 17: and he'll still on to be twenty four twenty five

1088
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 17: years old. I think they've made the right decision for

1089
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 17: this year. And I kind of get the frustration with Turner.

1090
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 17: He's worked with two other quarterbacks, Cam Newton and Kyler Murray,

1091
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 17: and if he's kind of thinking he's I mean those

1092
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 17: guys were both pretty successful. I think he's probably in

1093
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 17: a fair place to say, you know, I think that

1094
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 17: good question probably caught him off guard. I think he's

1095
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 17: probably safe to say that over a beer and a restaurant,

1096
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 17: you know.

1097
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 8: Probably here's the way he did, Matt.

1098
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting in that. What's interesting in that is

1099
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: in Cam Turner answering the question about the professional naivete

1100
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: of Anthony Richardson, Cam Turner indirectly showed a professional naivete

1101
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: of Cam Turner. And that's the again, not an indictment

1102
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: on either one and being a bad guy, but just

1103
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: a naivete there, right, appreciate the call. By the way, Matt,

1104
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: do you know anybody over there at the baseball program

1105
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: at Speedway High School?

1106
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 17: So I am your food and director, food and beverage director,

1107
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 17: and your Christmas lights guy.

1108
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 8: That's right, I'm actually.

1109
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, just so you know, by my calendar,

1110
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: based on the fact that yesterday I saw pumpkin spice

1111
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: stuff everywhere, we are two weeks away from Christmas, lights

1112
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: be coming back in vogue on the calendar. So you're

1113
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: cool with that, So go ahead.

1114
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 8: I'm the acting president of the Speedway athletic booster crop. Also, really, yes,

1115
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 8: I do know, really some people in the athletic department.

1116
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: Do they still have those sweet astro looking brown and

1117
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: yellow jert and mustard yellow jerseys.

1118
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 8: I'm friends with the AD. I can check on that.

1119
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 17: I know they've gotten some new uniforms in the last

1120
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 17: couple of years, So there may be something that you're

1121
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 17: talking about.

1122
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 8: The Astros looking.

1123
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: One the baseball the baseball jerseys, the ones that they're

1124
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: the brown and yellow, they look like the old Astro

1125
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: sunset jersey. I'll pay top dollar for one. I'll pay

1126
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: top dollar for one. I just want to walk around.

1127
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: I want to walk around, like at the Grand Canyon

1128
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: with one of those things and have people be like

1129
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: that looks just like the sunset behind you, and yeah,

1130
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: I know it's the Speedway high School spark plugs. I'll

1131
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: pay top dollar.

1132
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 8: I have. I do have a request for you, if possible. Okay,

1133
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 8: it's kind of off topic. So mister Boyd, I was

1134
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 8: following on Twitter and I like his work. There was

1135
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 8: a guy a while back that was getting a little

1136
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 8: uh him.

1137
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: You caught a stray on a block, didn't you. He

1138
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: did a great block and you caught a stray on.

1139
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 8: It, tell him to look for Indy car Man and

1140
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 8: put him back on.

1141
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: Okay, held on, So you're at Indy Carman on the

1142
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: expost Twitter? Is that right?

1143
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 8: I am?

1144
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna I'm gonna lock this in here because

1145
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: that happened to me with Reggie Miller. Somebody used profanity

1146
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: and a tweet that I was on with Reggie Miller,

1147
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: and Reggie Miller has me blocked on Twitter. Which the

1148
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: one interesting thing about that is I think it's the

1149
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: first block of his career. But nonetheless I'm blocked from

1150
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller. So I will we will get that in Matt,

1151
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: and I will do everything I can. Speaking of that,

1152
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: speaking of blocks, we're not blocking anybody from our fantasy

1153
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: football league. Our fantasy football league, we have one spot remaining,

1154
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: one spot remaining, and we are going to do our

1155
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: draft at seven o'clock on Monday evening from the Greenwood,

1156
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: Chicago's Pizza and I will allow Nathaniel, since he is

1157
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: filling in for Eddie today, to make the executive decision

1158
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: right here, Nathaniel. Are we doing this in terms of

1159
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: show trivia to have someone have to prove their loyalty

1160
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: to this program and that they're not just a passerby,

1161
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: or are we doing colts trivia for this either one

1162
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: trivia Okay, show trivia. Now Nathaniel doesn't listen to the show,

1163
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: so he is not necessarily capable of coming up with

1164
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: a question. But I'll come up with one off the

1165
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: top of my head. But we've got to do it

1166
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: at two nine ten seventy, right now, at two nine

1167
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: ten seventy, if you would like to be the last

1168
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: participant in our fantasy football league. Now we do know

1169
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: that the fantasy league. I believe the season tournament championship,

1170
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: if we want to call it that, the season championship

1171
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: for the fantasy league will involve some pizzas from Chicago's.

1172
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: But you're going to get that anyway at the draft,

1173
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: which is going to take place seven o'clock at the Greenwood.

1174
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: Chicago's Pizza, and keep in mind, Chicago's pizza is the

1175
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: very best because you get the top quality of cheese,

1176
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: you get the whether it be the tradditional pizza, a

1177
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: deep dish pizza. They have a thin and crispy pizza,

1178
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: they have a gluten free pizza. They have the deep

1179
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: dish and the traditional both that are right there for

1180
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: the offering for you on their lunch buffet between eleven

1181
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: and thirty and one o'clock. You get that in a

1182
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: salad bar and a beverage for just thirteen bucks out

1183
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: the door, a bargain at twice the price. And they

1184
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: have eighteen Central Indian locations, twenty five of them statewide.

1185
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 1: But it's Greenwood that will be the epicenter. That's gonna

1186
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: be the war room ground zero, if you will for

1187
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: our draft? Are we doing this roulette style? Atticus? I

1188
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: thank you again.

1189
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 11: I hope we go with Brian here.

1190
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: Brian, Brian, what's going on?

1191
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 9: Oh?

1192
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: Not much, buddy, today We're good. Brian. You sound like

1193
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: a fun guy, Brian. Are you a fun guy?

1194
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 18: I try to be O.

1195
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 10: Bob tries to be a fun guy, that's sure.

1196
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: Brian. If you don't mind me asking how old a fella?

1197
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little get to know your listener.

1198
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of success with his kids love

1199
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: this segment. As a matter of fact, how old a

1200
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: fella are you? Brian?

1201
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 10: I'm fifty three.

1202
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: Fifty three, Brian. That would put you in a high

1203
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: school graduating class of ninety or ninety one, depending on

1204
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: how much confidence your parents had when they enrolled you.

1205
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 19: Which one we are in the class of ninety one?

1206
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 10: Not much confidence there.

1207
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: Ninety one. I love that, Brian. What school was that?

1208
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 8: Greenfield Central Cougars.

1209
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: Greenfield Central Cougars. Okay, you know I actually know a

1210
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: girl from Greenfield Central, I might I say appropriately named. Okay, So, Brian,

1211
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: the class of ninety one, can you tell me, just

1212
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: out of curiosity, who the mister basketball was in our

1213
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: senior high school? Because I was in the same class

1214
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: as you, man.

1215
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 19: I probably could if I had enough time to think

1216
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 19: about it.

1217
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: Was what was the top when you were a senior

1218
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: in high school? What was the top song that you

1219
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: can recall coming out from our senior year?

1220
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 19: Coming out from our senior year, do you want like

1221
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 19: glam metal?

1222
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: Man?

1223
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 10: That's probably where I was.

1224
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll tell you what we had. So you had

1225
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: Faith No More? I think came out in like around

1226
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: spring break of our senior year. You remember that.

1227
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 10: Song absolutely due in.

1228
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: Addition in a Faith No More? You had more than

1229
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: words from extreme Every girl loved that. That was around

1230
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: prom time, right and then if you remember the fall

1231
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: of our senior year, the fall of our senior high school, Brian,

1232
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: there was about a three week window where See and

1233
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: See Music Factory was everywhere you turned around. Remember that

1234
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: that pumped up the jam.

1235
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 6: That's what we're talking about.

1236
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: I believe, well, pump up the Jam was technotronic. I

1237
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: believe that I want to sex you up from color

1238
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: me bad. It's also huge.

1239
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes.

1240
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Brian, how often do you listen to this program

1241
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: and be honest? Because I'm going to catch you in

1242
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: a web ofle eyes if you're lying to me.

1243
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 19: No, I'm gonna be try to listen every day. It's

1244
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 19: not for the whole show. I own a landscaping company,

1245
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 19: so I'm in and out of my truck all day.

1246
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 19: But I try to listen to it every day and.

1247
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 20: I have for years.

1248
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 19: I have for years, okay, And I kind of don't

1249
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 19: feel I feel a little different than you. To be

1250
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 19: honest with you, I don't know where the Coats.

1251
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 10: Have failed Anthony Richardson. I mean they put everything.

1252
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: In front of me listen. I don't disagree with that, Brian.

1253
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: I think the one area when I say they failed

1254
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: him and it's not that they just I think they

1255
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: gave him too much too early, you know what I mean? Like,

1256
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 1: I agree with that, That's what I mean by that.

1257
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: They just they didn't make him earn it until it

1258
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: was too late to make him earn it.

1259
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 6: Because it was no competition.

1260
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: He was the man, correct, Not unlike the two of

1261
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: us in nineteen ninety one, right, not like that at all.

1262
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: All Right, Brian, you've proven yourself pretty solid so far. Right,

1263
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: You've proven yourself pretty solid so far. But I'm still

1264
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: going to give you a show trivia question. Are you ready?

1265
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 10: I'm ready?

1266
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh. This particular question Eddie came up with, and

1267
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good one. We have a baseball bet,

1268
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: and the baseball bet is that Eddie, myself and then

1269
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: a listener each picked two teams, and whoever has the

1270
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: highest win total at the end of the Major League

1271
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: Baseball season with their two teams wins a six pack

1272
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: of beer from the other two. Can you tell me

1273
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: any of the six teams that are involved in our

1274
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: baseball bet.

1275
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 19: Any of the one of them is the San Diego Padres.

1276
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 19: Am I correct?

1277
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 6: There?

1278
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: You want a second opportunity? How about this? I took

1279
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: off about two weeks ago I missed a show in

1280
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the week because I went to go

1281
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 1: see this baseball team and they're not good?

1282
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 10: Is the Ridge?

1283
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Yanks, Brian, I'm getting.

1284
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 10: I am failing you.

1285
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 19: I know I am. I'm completely dropping the ball.

1286
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: That's okay, all right, Brian, I'm gonna give you one

1287
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: last one and then we're gonna move on from this

1288
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: laborious experiment. Here we go, Brian. I asked this to

1289
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: somebody the other of the day on the show, and

1290
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: then I had a migraine for three days because I

1291
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: hit my head against the desk so hard. You ready,

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Speaker 1: which sports team in Indianapolis do I, on a personal

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Speaker 1: level attend the most games as a fan? Which Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: sports team do I attend the most games as a fan?

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Speaker 19: You know, it's nice talking to you guys, and thanks

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Speaker 19: to the opportunity, and I appreciate you. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 19: say I'm just guessing it's.

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Speaker 1: The Fuel, oh man, Brian. Now, I do like the Fuel,

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Speaker 1: and I go to like two Fuel games a year. Brian,

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Speaker 1: You're a good sporting because of the class of ninety one.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put you in. Can you be there on Monday?

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Speaker 1: Night at the Chicago's Pizza in Greenwood. Absolutely, Okay, when

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: you're there, I will let you know that it is

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01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: forty one times a year in the regular season that

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Speaker 1: I go to see the Indiana Pacers play, which is

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Speaker 1: the safest pick anyway, because they play the most home

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Speaker 1: games of anybody. But Brian, you are in. So Brian

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Speaker 1: rounds out our fantasy football league in the Quarium Company League,

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01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: because Brian sounds like a fun dude. So we will

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Speaker 1: see at the Chicago's Pizza and have a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun with that. Kyle Nettonripp, by the way, covering high

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: school football, it is hard to believe that high school

1313
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: football season is upon us, but it is. And Greenfield

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01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: Central perhaps one of those schools that you could keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on, and those you know every year. I

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01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: asked Ned and Rip the same question, and that is what,

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: By the way, do you think Brian's ever actually listened

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: to the program or do you think he just right then?

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 11: Mean, he says every day. That's kind of tough to

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Speaker 11: believe with what he just said, but I believe him

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01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 11: in and out of the truck he.

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Speaker 1: Did have well he leading up to it, he said, hey,

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: you're wrong, in the fact that you failed. So he

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01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: was at least listening earlier today. So it's all we

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Speaker 1: could really ask for. Correct, That's all we can ask for. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: So Kyle Nettrip high school football, we will talk about

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01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: some of the teams to watch, and as I always

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Speaker 1: ask him, there's always a team each year that I

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Speaker 1: pick that's one that maybe doesn't have everything going for

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't have the resources, but they've been playing hard

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: and they're hoping to turn things around. And then I

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Speaker 1: got on board with that team for the year. It

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Speaker 1: was Shelbyville a couple of years ago, I believe, I

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Speaker 1: did Edinburgh one year, short Ridge I believe was last year.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask ned and Rip that as well. But who

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: is the team in the area that is the one

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: to watch and what matchups jump out off the page

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Speaker 1: to begin the year? We will get into that and

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Speaker 1: more with Kyle Neddonripp and we'll do it next.

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Speaker 13: Speaking of Lost and Clueless, we bring on Kyle Nedenrip

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Speaker 13: from the NFL.

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Speaker 7: You're listening to Query and Company on ninety three five

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Speaker 7: and one oh seven.

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Speaker 8: Five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: How about that for an intro for Kyle Netrip. That's

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Speaker 1: Kyle Nedderripp's voice, not mine. I would never say that

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: he is lost in clueless, but he joins us now

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Speaker 1: on the always busy, Available to be sponsored guest line, Kyle,

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01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe that. And I've got this weird.

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Speaker 1: It feels like at the rate we're going that we're

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01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: five years removed from having you on on the fourth

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Speaker 1: of July to preview the next week's high school football

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: season getting underway, right, That doesn't it?

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Speaker 13: It always seems like we start to start the season

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01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 13: earlier and earlier. It's really not the case I would

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Speaker 13: I would think, but it does seem that way.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with this. You know, I think that

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Speaker 1: we oftentimes think of just the same cast of characters,

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Speaker 1: and I mean that in a good way when it

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Speaker 1: comes to high school football powers. But one of the

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Speaker 1: things that is fascinating is if you really look historically

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Speaker 1: speaking at the trends of dominant athletic programs, it really

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Speaker 1: can show you the migration patterns of a city and

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Speaker 1: the expansion of a city. And I think you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean by that. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I mean. Westfield twenty years ago was a small school.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a power. Same with the hamlet in southeastern

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Speaker 1: or Fishers. It seems like we're starting to grow that

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Speaker 1: way westward and seeing better schools there. But give me

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Speaker 1: a school this is year. What for you? Sixteen on

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Speaker 1: the beat? Seventeen?

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Speaker 13: I think eighteen?

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Speaker 1: Okay, eighteen, Sorry to sell you short. So give me

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Speaker 1: a school or two this year. That looks to be

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Speaker 1: a power that when you first arrived in the Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: market you were hardly mentioned in them because they were

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Speaker 1: so small.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that's a good point, you know, And

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Speaker 13: that's something that you know, and I was doing these

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Speaker 13: these previews this year, it's like, man, when did Westfield

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Speaker 13: become you know the I mean you almost kind of

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Speaker 13: write them in as a as a sectional champion every

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Speaker 13: year and a potential state contender every year, where you

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Speaker 13: weren't really thinking that way, you know, even five six

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Speaker 13: years ago, even as good as they were, and they

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Speaker 13: were getting a lot better as a five A program.

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Speaker 13: But then to make the jump, you know, the six

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Speaker 13: A has been uh you know, pretty pretty dramatic, you know,

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Speaker 13: to be a six A power, and now you see

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Speaker 13: Brownsburg winning it last year. Definitely the suburban Indianapolis area

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Speaker 13: teams have gotten, you know, or it used to be

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Speaker 13: the at the top of the top. It was the

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Speaker 13: township schools Carmel, Center Grove that were the dominant forces.

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Speaker 13: Now those suburban HCC teams are more you know in

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Speaker 13: that in that conversation, I shoot, shoot, the championship last

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Speaker 13: year was was Westfield Brownsburg, So you know, I don't

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Speaker 13: know that they're I mean, I would say, you know,

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's hard.

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Speaker 13: It's hard in six A because there's limited numbers of

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Speaker 13: schools you can really look at that way, you know,

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Speaker 13: and and you know, each of those schools have kind

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Speaker 13: of had their their ups and downs at different times.

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Speaker 13: I think I think definitely, you know, probably this year

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Speaker 13: it's kind of the same team, you know, the Brownsburg Westfield.

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Speaker 13: I think Avon's going to be really good. I don't

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Speaker 13: know if they're a state contender, but I think they're

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Speaker 13: getting a lot better. But you know, we were talking

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Speaker 13: about them ten ten years ago. They were really good,

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Speaker 13: you know, under Mark Less. So you know, maybe that's

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Speaker 13: not a good example, but but there are to your point,

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Speaker 13: that is definitely happening. And now you know, for sure

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Speaker 13: when we see teams like Westfield making it multiple times,

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Speaker 13: Brownsburg making it multiple times, there's there's and now you

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Speaker 13: look at Carmel and they're they're trying to get back

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Speaker 13: to that where you never thought that, you know, even

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Speaker 13: five years ago, that they would be climbing back, you know,

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Speaker 13: or having to climb back. They're they're kind of a

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Speaker 13: team that you wouldn't see them as an underdog necessarily,

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Speaker 13: but they're kind of in that role going into this

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Speaker 13: year and Kevin Wright's first.

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Speaker 6: Year as coach.

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Speaker 13: So that's been an interesting change. To your point, I

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Speaker 13: don't have a great answer for your question, but it's

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Speaker 13: it is a well point.

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Speaker 1: How about this, Kyle, Kyle and edrip our guests. Before

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Speaker 1: we get into specifics in terms of games or matchups

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Speaker 1: that are going to be intriguing early on, let's get

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Speaker 1: to this, and that is teams that are indeed playing

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Speaker 1: at a different class this year, either that moved up

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Speaker 1: or went back down again than a year ago. Who

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Speaker 1: is reacclimating to a new class this year.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and this is a change i'd say made to

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Speaker 13: you know, to make these changes annually, it's still a

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Speaker 13: two year you know. So for instance, Cathedral moved down

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Speaker 13: back down to five A from six A. That'll be

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Speaker 13: for the next two years at least, depending on what happens.

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Speaker 13: But so they're making these changes annually based on the

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Speaker 13: previous two year period. But if you make that move

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Speaker 13: like Cathedral this year, then you know you're staying there

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Speaker 13: for two years at least, so you're not changed the school.

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Speaker 13: The specific school won't change any but they will make

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Speaker 13: changes annually.

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Speaker 15: So that said.

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Speaker 13: Probably the biggest ones the Cathedral I mentioned six A

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Speaker 13: to five A taking their place as Decatur Central. They

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Speaker 13: basically just swapped spots as far as Decatur moving into

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Speaker 13: their old sectional in six A with the Lawrence North

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Speaker 13: LC in North Central. Decatur was the five A champion

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Speaker 13: last year, and then in five A newpal moves up.

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Speaker 13: So now newpal and Cathedral are in the same sectional,

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Speaker 13: one moving up, one moving down, So you can kind

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 13: of set your schedule. That's going to be a great

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Speaker 13: game whenever that happens. Down the road in Plainfield is

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Speaker 13: top ten team two in that same sectional, so New

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Speaker 13: pal moves up. They were the four A champion last year.

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Speaker 13: And also a big one is Heritage Hills, which was

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Speaker 13: the three A champion last year now in four A

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Speaker 13: and they will be I think really stay and tender

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Speaker 13: for sure in four A as well. So those are

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Speaker 13: the I think that may be it for this for

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Speaker 13: this cycle, but we'll see more, you know, coming next

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Speaker 13: next cycle as well. With the new there'll be a

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Speaker 13: classification change as well for next year, as far as

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Speaker 13: the reshuffling of sectionals and whatnot, you know.

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Speaker 1: For the Kyle for those that are unfamiliar, Kyle Medrip

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Speaker 1: is our guest from the Indianapolis Star talking about high

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Speaker 1: school football. The the requirements I'm using that in air quotes,

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Speaker 1: the what what it is that takes place that causes

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Speaker 1: a team to have to change classes, either moving up

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Speaker 1: or down. I mean, I have a general idea here,

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Speaker 1: but for those that don't know, could you explain why

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01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: a cathedral would be a six A school goes back

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Speaker 1: down to five A, or why somebody would be a

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Speaker 1: five A that goes to six A, et cetera.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you have to accumulate a certain amount of points

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Speaker 13: over a two year period. It's six points and that's

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Speaker 13: based off you know, four for a state champion, three

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Speaker 13: for a semi state championship, two for a regional, and

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Speaker 13: then one for a sectional. So you know, for instance,

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 13: if you win a state title and then win a

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Speaker 13: regional you would bump over a two year period, you

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01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 13: would bump up. That would accumulate six points and bump

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01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 13: you up to the next classification over you know, for

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 13: the next two year period. So it's it that's kind

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01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 13: of the cycle that it goes on. In Cathedral case,

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Speaker 13: they're they're actually for a team in football by enrollment size,

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01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 13: but you know, they've been playing up because they keep accumulating.

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Speaker 13: And now if you're up, you know, if you're up

1490
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 13: playing in an upper you know, in a higher class

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01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 13: and you accumulate, I think they moved it back to

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 13: three points now. So if you if you accumulate three

1493
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 13: points over that two year period that you're up, you

1494
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 13: stay in that class for the next cycle as well.

1495
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 13: So that's why Cathedral bump back down. They didn't accumulate

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Speaker 13: that amount of points, so now they'll be in five

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01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 13: A for this two year period. So that's a it's

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 13: been I think, you know, overall, I think it's the

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 13: success fact has worked to its you know, why it

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01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 13: was put in place. It's kind of affected the school,

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01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 13: affected the programs that have won a lot at one level,

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01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 13: and you know, I know there's there's you know, every

1503
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 13: system like this has its flaws. Different states do it

1504
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,879
Speaker 13: different ways, but you know, I think it's had it's

1505
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 13: served a purpose for the good of at least for

1506
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 13: high school football. I think you could probably argue other

1507
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 13: sports are maybe different, but I think this has been

1508
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 13: pretty good overall for football.

1509
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: Three best teams at least on paper heading into the

1510
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: season in the Indianapolis area, go I.

1511
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 13: Would say Center Grove, Brownsburg, and newpal and Westfield, though

1512
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 13: they'll give you four, I think because those New Pal's

1513
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 13: and five A those other three or six A, but

1514
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 13: I would say those, you know, three four.

1515
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: Three most intriguing in terms of from a year ago

1516
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: they showed flash or perhaps disappointment, and you are the

1517
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: most intrigued by the enigma of what they could be

1518
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: this year. Either way.

1519
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 13: For sure, Carmel, like I mentioned, there there is you

1520
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 13: know coming back Kevin right back in the helm right yeah.

1521
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 13: And then I would say to cater Central for sure,

1522
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 13: moving up to six A, see see if they have

1523
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 13: the depth to compete. And then the team they're playing tonight. Also,

1524
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 13: I think Avon will be uh from an intrigued standpoint,

1525
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 13: I'm curious how that game goes tonight with those two

1526
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 13: playing each other.

1527
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 1: Best players in the area.

1528
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 13: I would say, gosh, now now I need to I'd

1529
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 13: say JJ Finch at Warren Central for sure, defensive end

1530
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 13: going to Alabama, and then you know, you think about

1531
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 13: the you know, the skill position players. Gosh, I know

1532
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 13: I'm gonna end up leaving people out launching sales from

1533
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 13: Lawrence North. That receiver definitely a fun player to watch.

1534
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 13: He's only a junior, has a ton of offers on

1535
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 13: the table. And then Jace Brewer from Franklin Central too

1536
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 13: is another. Those might not be the three. I'm not

1537
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 13: looking at my at my mister football preview stuff here,

1538
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 13: but those three Brewers got a lot of offers. I mean,

1539
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 13: he just got offered by USC this week. He's also

1540
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 13: a junior and just a really physical specimen type player,

1541
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 13: So you know, those are a few.

1542
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: Kyle, I've always felt like Kyle Eddrip is our guest

1543
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: from the Indianapolis Star, and maybe this isn't the case.

1544
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: Now you know, you give me your thoughts on it.

1545
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: But I have mentioned before one hundred times. I'll make

1546
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: it one hundred and one. When I worked in local

1547
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: television and it's been since gosh, I mean the cold

1548
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl year when I worked in television. But when

1549
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: I did work in television, the one thing when I

1550
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 1: moved from television to radio that I miss. The one

1551
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,480
Speaker 1: thing that I miss was I loved Friday night football

1552
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: when we would take the helicopter. Nobody takes the helicopter

1553
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: out anymore, I realized, But when we would take the

1554
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: helicopter out, or would go out on a Friday night,

1555
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 1: especially in the late fall, and go to two different

1556
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: high school games and get some video and get a

1557
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 1: couple of highlights and put them together. And I would

1558
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: go to all these communities, Kyle, all around Central Indiana,

1559
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: and the crowds were just massive. And I mean, this

1560
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: is no disrespect to the love of basketball in this state.

1561
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: But for as much talk as there is about who's

1562
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: your hysteria, I think you'd make the argument that who's

1563
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: your hysteria now is almost more a Friday night lights

1564
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: thing because it seems like high school football packs in

1565
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: the crowds in the communities even more so than basketball.

1566
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: Am I totally off base.

1567
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 13: Not at all? And I think there's different reasons for that.

1568
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 13: And I do think you know, Hoosia hysterias still exists,

1569
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 13: it's just not you know, you're going to find it,

1570
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 13: you know, more in the tournament, you know, and you can't.

1571
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 13: I mean the Jeffersonville championship game against Fisher's last year,

1572
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 13: or the Kokomo game a year before that was like

1573
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 13: those games were incredible. I mean, the fans were incredible,

1574
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 13: the environment's incredible. But I think football is kind of

1575
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 13: set up. You know, you start the school year, you know,

1576
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 13: week one, the students are excited to be there. Everything

1577
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 13: builds up during the week. You know, it's one time

1578
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 13: of week, so everybody knows where to be on Friday night.

1579
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 13: So all that sort of plays into it. And I

1580
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 13: think that's you know, that helps football a lot because

1581
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 13: of the nature of that, you know, And I feel

1582
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 13: that myself, you know, even years removed from when I

1583
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 13: was playing football, it's just it still feels like, you know,

1584
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 13: this time of year, it's so fun to come back

1585
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 13: and get the season started and everybody's looking forward to it.

1586
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 13: So but yeah, I would, I would, you know, I

1587
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 13: wouldn't argue that point. Definitely from a community standpoint, and

1588
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 13: and also just a number of people involved on a

1589
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 13: football team. You just have a lot more families, you know,

1590
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 13: the band, parents, the you know, there's just a lot

1591
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 13: more overall number of people involved on a Friday night

1592
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 13: football game then then there would be in basketball just

1593
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 13: because of the sheer number of that. But but yeah,

1594
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 13: I would not argue that. I think it's uh, in

1595
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 13: part because of the timing of the school year, like

1596
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 13: I said, but also just the community aspect and the

1597
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 13: once a week's nature of it. And then you know,

1598
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 13: if you're winning, you're going to keep building that throughout

1599
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 13: the course of the year. And you know, some some

1600
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 13: places will have their best gate tonight. I'm sure you

1601
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 13: know it won't be the won't be that way the

1602
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 13: rest of the season. But you know, you can't tell

1603
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 13: me if if you go to the HC. Fishers game

1604
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 13: in a couple of weeks and and it's just it's

1605
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 13: an insane atmosphere, and there's a lot there's other games

1606
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 13: like that, but it's it's, uh, you know, those nights

1607
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 13: are special just to to kind of take all that

1608
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 13: in and and see what that's like and and uh,

1609
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 13: you know, but you know, like I said, there's other

1610
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 13: games like that, but that one comes to mind, especially

1611
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 13: based on what you just talked about.

1612
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing, Kyle, I do this every year and

1613
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: I put you on the spot. Every year. I always

1614
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: try to pick one school, and in this school, I'll

1615
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: try to over the course of the season, especially when

1616
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: we talk bring them up, give the kids some love.

1617
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: But I always like to try to find one team

1618
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: that whether it be that they're underfunded, maybe their enrollment

1619
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 1: went down, maybe they've had just not a lot of

1620
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: success at all in the last you know cycle of

1621
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: the group that's on that's there now enrolled, but that

1622
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: you look at and you go, this is like the

1623
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: Disney movie here, because God love these guys. They're out

1624
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 1: there working every single day and they're just not getting

1625
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: perhaps the success or the love that people get at

1626
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: other schools. But you know, they deserve some props for

1627
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: the effort and for the diligence and for the everyday grind.

1628
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: Give me three schools and I'll pick one of the three,

1629
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: and I'm on board with them, and I'm bandwagging them

1630
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: this year.

1631
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 13: Okay, Well, I'll say, as you mentioned that, I mean,

1632
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:02,959
Speaker 13: he's Washington in continentals. I know they've got Rumon Stallings

1633
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 13: there as coach, and they they had. They have had

1634
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 13: some success here recently, maybe not the success we you know,

1635
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 13: kind of quantify as as you know, state championship type stuff,

1636
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 13: But but I think they would be one. Scott Hicks

1637
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 13: the a d over there and I know they're trying

1638
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 13: to build that that program up and he Stallings in

1639
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,799
Speaker 13: his first year coaching. Nobody's been there in the building,

1640
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 13: so you know, they would be one to come to mind.

1641
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 13: I Christmas Addicts has a really good running back, Daryl Taylor,

1642
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 13: who's you know, the last two years, I think over

1643
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 13: thirty five hundred yards rushing, so you know, he's just

1644
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 13: an exciting player, really good. You know people, you know,

1645
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 13: the opponents who played against him know like he's the

1646
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 13: real deal. It'll be fun to track what he does

1647
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 13: over the course of the of the season. And then

1648
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 13: I would say Crystal House, which is manuals Old. They

1649
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 13: play in Manuel's old building, old stadium there Ray Schultz Field,

1650
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 13: and they're a school that's coming back from you know,

1651
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 13: didn't finish the season out last year, so I know

1652
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 13: they're they're kind of rebuilding. But I think those can

1653
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 13: maybe start with those three.

1654
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: Do you happen to know off the top of your head.

1655
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: Crystal Houses like mascot nickname.

1656
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, yeah, they're the They're the Eagles. Now.

1657
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Eagles, Baby, I'm all in

1658
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: on the Eagles. I played at Eastwood. We were undefeated

1659
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: two years in a row. Beastwood Eagles.

1660
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 9: Baby.

1661
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: We called ourselves Beastwood because we were the Eastwood Eagles.

1662
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: But I'm they're nothing but beast at Crystal House, I'm

1663
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: all in. Fly high Eagles, Baby, fly Eagles. Fly there.

1664
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: We go brush up each time you're on with me,

1665
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Kyle on Crystal House. That's who we're talking up this year.

1666
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 13: Okay, sounds good, all.

1667
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: Right, appreciate it, Kyle Netrip, Indianapolistar. I appreciate the time.

1668
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games. Tonight, we've got to get to some

1669
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: texts that came in, including some actually this time that

1670
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: said that I'm a smart guy. Yesterday I was a

1671
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: dumb guy.

1672
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 10: You know.

1673
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: I'd rather head into the weekend with some intellect. But

1674
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: we did talk about Anthony Richards and Shane Steichen, some

1675
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: interesting stuff to break down with that, I'll do it

1676
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: with James Boyd, but I'll also read some text next.

1677
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 7: This is Querry in Company on ninety three five and

1678
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,959
Speaker 7: one oh seven five the Fan.

1679
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: James Boyd ten minutes Franciscan health, Feel good, good for

1680
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: the hard Friday, coming up bottom of the hour. Hope

1681
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: you're excited for a big weekend Milwaukee, IndyCar this weekend.

1682
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: I will be heading up later today. I do love

1683
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: the city of Milwaukee, oddly enough, and I have to

1684
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 1: be one of the few that this is the case.

1685
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: But we go to Milwaukee every year in December for

1686
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: a weekend, and believe it or not, every single time

1687
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: we've done so, it's been like forty five degrees. The

1688
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: only thing that's the biggest buzzkill and the most underappreciated

1689
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: aspect of where we live. Maybe I'm the only one

1690
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: that notices weird things like this, But growing up my

1691
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: entire life in Indianapolis, I just took for granted. I

1692
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: never realized the connection of where you are geographically within

1693
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: your time zone and how it affects the times of

1694
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: the sunset. I know that that makes me an idiot,

1695
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: but I never knew any different because I lived in Indianapolis,

1696
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: and so like in the summertime it got dark, you know, obviously,

1697
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: then we went to daylight saving or whatever, but like

1698
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: it would get dark at nine or ten o'clock at night.

1699
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, great. And then I moved to

1700
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, which is on the far eastern end of

1701
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: its time zone as a post of western end, and

1702
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: like in the winter it got dark at you know,

1703
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: a quarter of five, like what is going on here?

1704
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 1: And the same thing in Milwaukee. We went up last

1705
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: year and it was like seven o'clock in Shannon and

1706
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 1: I both like, I feel like it's midnight. We were

1707
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: up there the night that the Pacers and Lakers were

1708
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: playing in the nd Season Tournament Championship, and literally by

1709
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: the time the game came around, I felt like I

1710
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: was those people that you hear about, like in Europe

1711
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: that watched the games at two o'clock in the morning.

1712
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: And then when I went to the concert in Manchester,

1713
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: England a month ago, that is so far north, the

1714
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: concert ended at ten thirty and it was sunset. It

1715
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: was very strange. A couple of texts to get to.

1716
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: We talked earlier about the Anthony Richardson situation. You can

1717
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: always text the show at two, three, nine, ten seventy forever.

1718
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: We would allow people I would enjoy and encourage people

1719
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: to text me on my personal phone as well. You

1720
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: can do both. But the text line at two three

1721
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: nine ten seventy in talking about Anthony Richardson, Hey, Jake,

1722
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is done in this city. It's time for

1723
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the march for arch Listen, we've gone over that though.

1724
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: With the arch Manning situation, I get it, I understand

1725
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 1: the sympathy. It reminds me of the year that Lebron

1726
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: James was getting ready to his rookie contract or you know,

1727
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: the contract in Cleveland, when his free agency was coming up.

1728
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: The year of the decision, and about two years before that,

1729
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: every franchise in the NBA people were like, you know,

1730
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: they're actually shedding salary because what they're doing is they're

1731
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: going to get like a bunch of salary cap space

1732
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: for Lebron James. Everyone thought they were the one that

1733
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: was going to reinvent the wheel on Lebron James and

1734
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: getting Lebron James. And yes, with arch Manning, there's probably

1735
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: more fascination with that in Indianapolis than most markets for

1736
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: the obvious reason. But number one, we still have yet

1737
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: to see arch Manning. I mean by all account he

1738
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: is going to be a phenomenal player. Okay, but we

1739
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: have yet to see Arch Manning in what he can

1740
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: do with consistency at the high level, although one would

1741
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 1: think every single aspect all signs point towards domination. Yes,

1742
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: but the Colts would not be the only franchise that's like,

1743
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, we should get sneaky and tryid to and

1744
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: get Arch Manning. And then secondly, I've mentioned this before

1745
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: and this is a whole different talk show, but I

1746
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: don't think there's a guarantee that Arch Manning, that the

1747
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Manning family would say, yeah, let's go play in Indianapolis.

1748
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: There's precedent Eli Manning drafted by San Diego, said look,

1749
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: we're he's not signing there. He's not going to do it.

1750
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: And I know that Peyton Manning has love for his

1751
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: time as a cult and I know that Peyton Manning

1752
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: has loved for Indianapolis. But Peyton Manning now is a

1753
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: Bronco and Peyton Manning, now, let's be real, Peyton Manning now.

1754
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: The only time in Peyton Manning's life that somebody essentially

1755
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: rejected him, it was at the last year of his

1756
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 1: time with the Colts, and I think he still thinks

1757
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: of that. Hey, Jake, listening to Colts leadership is like

1758
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: listening to politicians. If the mouth is moving, we're getting

1759
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 1: lip service aka deception. I think that's an issue. I

1760
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: don't mean that they're guilty of that, but I think

1761
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: they are. There is an issue in that perception and

1762
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: that people feel like they can't be trusted talking about

1763
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 1: the Colts. Jake, regarding the Colts, Richardson is done. Ballard

1764
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: should be two. Nothing with Ballard has led to playoffs success. Yeah,

1765
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 1: nothing's really even led to playoffs, right, you got to

1766
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 1: get there first. James Boyd was one of those that

1767
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: was talking with Cam Turner, the quarterbacks coach of the Colts,

1768
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and we're not only going to talk about that, we

1769
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: are also going to try to see if we can

1770
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: get somebody unblocked from him on the expost Twitter. We

1771
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: do it all night.

1772
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 7: This is Querry in Company on ninety three five and

1773
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 7: one oh seven five the Fan.

1774
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: So here's how the week has gone for us, kind

1775
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: of at the fault of nobody, I realize. So Stephanie White.

1776
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, we had the situation where Stephanie

1777
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to join the program and I totally get it.

1778
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the Fever have had and they're back in

1779
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: action tonight, but the Fever have had a just a

1780
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: roller coaster ride when it comes to health and injury

1781
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:05,480
Speaker 1: and availability of players. And Stephanie White was totally apologetic

1782
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: where she's like, oh my gosh, and I don't remember

1783
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: what day it was. They all start to run together

1784
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: where she was to join the program and then got

1785
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: pulled into a meeting and then I think we had

1786
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: to kind of float her for the second time that

1787
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: she came back on, But we ended up getting that

1788
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: done and it was a good conversation yesterday. Fever back

1789
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,480
Speaker 1: in action tonight taking on Minnesota, the best team in

1790
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: the league in the WNBA, and they are going to

1791
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 1: have to face them three of their final nine games.

1792
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: But there was somebody else this week and I can't

1793
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 1: recall who it was that we were to have on

1794
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: and something happened at the last second and now and

1795
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 1: I realized he's our colleague. But apparently James Boyd enjoys

1796
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: the trend, right is that right now I'm blaming Eddie

1797
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: for this. Nathaniel, can you can you let us know

1798
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: what has happened here.

1799
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 11: Well, James has given us permission to make fun of

1800
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 11: him on air, so he says it's his bad. He's

1801
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 11: not even blaming Eddie here. He says we can make

1802
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 11: fun of him on air. We have permission.

1803
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 1: What I'd like to know is this IndyCar Man at

1804
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 1: Indycarman on the expost Twitter. Apparently James Boyd blocked him.

1805
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 11: Maybe that's why he didn't want to join us. Maybe

1806
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 11: he heard your tea said no, no, no, I need to run.

1807
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 11: I can't face the fire.

1808
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 1: So I don't know that I have ever blocked anyone

1809
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter. There are a couple that certainly have. It

1810
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: would probably make my life easier. There are a couple

1811
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 1: of people I think on social media that their entire

1812
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: existence is just to be combat at an argument. I

1813
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: mean that's probably like ninety percent of them now, but

1814
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: I get it a lot. And they are a couple

1815
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: that just are like constantly after me, and eventually I'm

1816
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: just like what I look because I'll double check, and

1817
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you still follow me? Like what are

1818
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: we doing here? You know what I mean? Should I

1819
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: say the names or not say the names? Is it

1820
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: too petty? If I say the names I talk.

1821
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 11: Huh, it's a Friday, why not.

1822
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're kind of fun. I kind of enjoy it.

1823
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: I get a kick out of it. But the one

1824
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: that drives me, the only one that truly bothers me,

1825
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 1: is the guy and I'm not even gonna say his name,

1826
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: but the guy that because I have talked about, so

1827
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 1: James boy, by the way, unavailable, but because I have

1828
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: talked about and Nathaniel, I will rope you into this equation. Okay,

1829
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 1: you're even more egregious here than I in the following

1830
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: I one time, I think I literally did this one time.

1831
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: I've probably mentioned it several times since then, but there

1832
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: was one time where I did a full explanation on it,

1833
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 1: and it was like fifteen years ago. But I would

1834
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 1: like for I want someone to call the show right

1835
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: now that is in my age range. And by that

1836
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean if you are between the ages of say

1837
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 1: forty now forty five are probably too young. If you

1838
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: are forty eight or older and you grew up in Indianapolis,

1839
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: I want you to call in right now because I

1840
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: want I need to run kind of a test real quick.

1841
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: Before we did that. We'll get to James who wants

1842
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: to talk about Richardson and Ballard James.

1843
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 15: What's up, Hey, nice to talk to you. I really

1844
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 15: enjoyed the show. Is the first time I'm cold in?

1845
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 9: Is it?

1846
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 19: Really?

1847
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 15: Yeah? I'm a huge Fever fan.

1848
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool.

1849
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 15: So there's a there's a parallel between the Fever and

1850
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,600
Speaker 15: the Colts this year. I went into the season with

1851
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 15: a Fever conflicted over something. Now I'm going into the

1852
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 15: season with the Colts conflicted.

1853
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Now, what was young with the Fever? What were you

1854
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:45,799
Speaker 1: conflicted about?

1855
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 15: Because it's that Christie Sides did a great job and

1856
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 15: she came in before Clark and to a team that

1857
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 15: had just won like in single digits for years, and

1858
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 15: she came in taking on that channel and did a

1859
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 15: very excellent job.

1860
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a fair point.

1861
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 15: And I feel like the people that came in after

1862
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 15: they just kind of ran in to get into clark limelights.

1863
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 15: I just don't see them as legitimate. So, you know,

1864
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 15: I had feelings about that.

1865
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair.

1866
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 15: And then with the cults, I really look at Richardson

1867
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 15: ambalid as separate situations of Richardson. You know, I just

1868
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 15: didn't have enough experience in college to come in and

1869
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 15: start that didn't make any sense whatsoever. I can't even

1870
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 15: imagine Peyton Manning after just two years of college coming

1871
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 15: in and starting in the NFL. It just seemed impossible.

1872
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 15: So I think Richardson did well given under the circumstances,

1873
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 15: and that to say that he's a marsh or he's

1874
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 15: a bus is silly because he really just doesn't have

1875
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 15: enough experience to even make a determination like that.

1876
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,599
Speaker 1: I think, James, the thing that's tough is just the

1877
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: fact that I don't disagree with you, and I think

1878
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,759
Speaker 1: fundamentally you make good points. But the challenge is this, James.

1879
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 1: It's not that Richardson's a bust. It's the fact that

1880
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: if you want to say, and I don't mean you, James,

1881
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: I just mean people in general. If the narrative is

1882
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: that Richardson needs more time under center before we can

1883
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: make an evaluation on him, did James drop off? Then

1884
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 1: the thing is a lot of the denial of those

1885
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,560
Speaker 1: reps are the fault of Richardson. Not necessarily it's not

1886
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 1: his fault he got hurt, obviously, but the inconsistency when

1887
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,640
Speaker 1: he is out there. This is year three now, I mean,

1888
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: at some point you've got to say, like, okay, even

1889
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: if it's not even if it's Jonathan Benner and it's

1890
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: not his fault, at some point you reach a point

1891
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: where you have to make the determination of this just

1892
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 1: isn't gonna happen. And it seems as though the Colts

1893
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: have made that determination based on things that we can't see.

1894
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, based on the things that

1895
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: we can't see. Before we get to Simon, who is

1896
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: within the age ra and job I was looking for.

1897
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: I when to get Calvin? Calvin, what's up, Hey, buddy?

1898
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,839
Speaker 20: I have a question about the Colts and the quarterback situation.

1899
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 20: Why don't we try a two quarterback set? Never has

1900
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 20: there been an opportunity for two similar guys to play

1901
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 20: the same position, whether on the field at the same

1902
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 20: time or in the same drive that can the playbook

1903
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 20: is almost perfect for both of them. I don't get

1904
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 20: it as the Colts quarterback coach.

1905
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 10: When you talk to will you Calvin?

1906
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: I listen, I think I can tell you what the

1907
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 1: answers get. By the way, you sound like a nice guy, Calvin.

1908
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Have you called the program before?

1909
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 7: No?

1910
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 20: I just try to do what I can do to

1911
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 20: be good man.

1912
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: You sound like a friendly fellow like you sound like

1913
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 1: you'd be the perfect next door neighbor.

1914
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 20: Well, yeah, perhaps I've just had a small business my

1915
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 20: whole life.

1916
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 15: So that's what it is.

1917
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 1: How old a fella are you, Calvin?

1918
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:58,759
Speaker 20: I am fifty years.

1919
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: Old, fifty with a five five zero five zero?

1920
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

1921
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: So actually, Calvin, so you and Simon, I'm gonna do

1922
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 1: both of you here real quick, and then I'm gonna

1923
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: answer your quarterback question. But let me ask you this

1924
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: real quick. Calvin, did you grow up in Indianapolis? Yes, sir,

1925
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Okay when you were a kid. Have you been a

1926
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 1: sports fan your whole life?

1927
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Speaker 20: Probably since my late teens?

1928
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so late teens you probably were. So you would

1929
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,400
Speaker 1: have been in like the fourth grade when the Colts

1930
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: moved here from Baltimore.

1931
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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, in the middle of the night.

1932
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's right. So you weren't up, were you? Because

1933
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: it was a school night, right?

1934
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Speaker 9: I don't know. We're probably pretty excited.

1935
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Speaker 1: So what I was gonna ask you is, Calvin, were

1936
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Speaker 1: you a football fan before the Colts got here?

1937
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Speaker 15: I don't believe.

1938
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Speaker 1: So, okay, you know, I believe.

1939
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Speaker 20: The Cowboys was the theme for the NFL for me

1940
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Speaker 20: at that point.

1941
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, exactly, Okay, the Dallas Cowboys, and I appreciate

1942
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: the call. Calvin. Bottom line is this on the quarterback situation.

1943
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. And it is unique because

1944
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: they play a similar style, So theoretically you wouldn't have

1945
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: to deviate from the playbook or expect the rest of

1946
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: the roster to do things differently, have a different approach,

1947
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: use different lineups from one quarterback to the next. But

1948
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Speaker 1: I just think the quarterback position itself is a rhythm position,

1949
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Speaker 1: and as they always say, when you have two quarterbacks,

1950
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: you have none. And that has become probably the most

1951
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 1: unwritten rule of football, where if you don't just pick

1952
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: one guy and go with it, it just historically has

1953
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 1: never worked. And I've seen collegiately, whatever else, I've seen

1954
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 1: teams that have tried to do it and it just

1955
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: seemingly never works. Simon, all right, Simon says, is gonna

1956
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: be my true litanans here. We just got into it

1957
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: with Calvin just a little bit. But Simon, you said

1958
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Speaker 1: you are fifty four years old, correct.

1959
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Speaker 8: Yes, sir?

1960
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 1: Okay from Avon from Avon fifty four year old Simon

1961
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: from Avon. Okay. So, Simon, when you were and I'm

1962
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Speaker 1: going to guess that you graduated from Avon High School

1963
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: somewhere around eighty eight or eighty nine, Am I right?

1964
01:40:59,280 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 8: Eighty nine?

1965
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: Okay? So we're gonna go back, and I need you

1966
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 1: to just close your eyes real quick, Simon, unless you're driving,

1967
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: and please don't do that, Okay, but I want you

1968
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: to envision third grade Simon. Okay, third grade Simon On

1969
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: a in. One of the prerequisites for this experiment was

1970
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 1: that you were a sports fan as a kid. So

1971
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 1: when you were living in Avon in say nineteen eighty one,

1972
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: eighty two, eighty three and that era, were you a

1973
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: sports fan? Absolutely okay, And I'm going to guess that you, Simon,

1974
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 1: or perhaps your friends, maybe a cousin, an older brother,

1975
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, somebody you knew had one

1976
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: of the following. They either had an NFL lunchbox. They

1977
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: either had the NFL bedspread and or sleeping bag from

1978
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: Sears that had all of the logos on it, or

1979
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: they had one of the Sears and Roebuck NFL either

1980
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: like letter jacket or sideline coats, or the little ball

1981
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: on top snow hat in the winter time that was

1982
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: bought at Sears for one of the NFL teams in

1983
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 1: the era of young eighty one, eighty two, eighty three, Simon,

1984
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Is that correct, Yes, sir, okay, So in that capacity, Simon,

1985
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: I want to know this. We're gonna go back in

1986
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: time right now, and we are going to talk to

1987
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: eighty nineteen eighty two Simon, which would have been if

1988
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: my math is correct, you would have been what twelve

1989
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: years old, eleven or twelve years old?

1990
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 10: Eleven?

1991
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, eleven, twelve? Yeah, your favorite team at that point.

1992
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,719
Speaker 1: The NFL was on Sundays and one game on Monday,

1993
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: and you got maybe two or three games each week

1994
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: that you got to see. But your favorite team, Simon,

1995
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not even Creskin here, okay, but I'm

1996
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: going to guess within five what you and don't tell

1997
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: me what it is. Did you have a favorite team

1998
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: at that time, Simon, don't tell me what it is,

1999
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 1: but did you have a favorite team? Yes? Okay? Your

2000
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 1: favorite team was one of the following the Dallas Cowboys,

2001
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: yes or no? Yes, okay? And your best friend who

2002
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: was your best friend back in those days Simon John John,

2003
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: and if John was not a Cowboys fan, John was

2004
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 1: probably a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers or possibly possibly

2005
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers are green Bay Packers or Oakland Raiders.

2006
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: And then if John simply went by what he saw

2007
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,799
Speaker 1: on television, he was a fan of the Bengals or Bears,

2008
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: even though both were terrible.

2009
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys as well.

2010
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 1: Okay, did you have any friends that were a fan

2011
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 1: of any of those that I just mentioned, and the

2012
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,840
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins would be the only other possible outlier.

2013
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 13: My brother was a huge Packers fan.

2014
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,480
Speaker 1: Okay, And I bet it's because the Packers at somewhere,

2015
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: some way. He either as a kid played on a

2016
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 1: team that was the Packers, or your mom got him

2017
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 1: like a Packer's hat at Sears when he was a kid.

2018
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 8: Ooh, that's good, Yes, that's right.

2019
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 17: Okay, outside a friend that was a Jets fan and

2020
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 17: he played on the Jets as a Little League.

2021
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: Pope player, or he watched the Brady Bunch once and

2022
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 1: saw Joe Nameth and thought it was cool that he

2023
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: showed up at Bobby's house. Here's my point. There is

2024
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: a guy on social media Pittsburgh Steelers were my team, Simon.

2025
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: I was a diehard Steelers fan because the Colts were

2026
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: not only in Baltimore at that time, but they were

2027
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: a total afterthought. I mean, the nineteen eighty two Baltimore

2028
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Colts were literally the Arizona Cardinals, or I mean they

2029
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: were the Colorado Rockies of the NFL. Right, you never

2030
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: heard about him, didn't even really know they existed, one

2031
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct. As a matter of fact, I had

2032
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 1: a mean Joe Green poster and he was getting ready

2033
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 1: to sack Burt Jones. And the old Sports Illustrated posters,

2034
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: you remember those that just to the top had the

2035
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 1: name of the player and then the photo. You probably

2036
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,839
Speaker 1: had Tony dors Sad or maybe Roger Staubach, right, yeah.

2037
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:47,759
Speaker 10: In fair of Fawcett.

2038
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. Now let's talk about that, shall we.

2039
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: I mean, can we get into Lonnie Anderson and Cheryl Tigue? Also?

2040
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean here's the thing, Simon, Let's be honest. You

2041
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: were skulking the back air areas of Spencer Gifts. Weren't

2042
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: you looking through the poster?

2043
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 10: Absolutely?

2044
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so Simon Jeans we yes, yeah, you

2045
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,759
Speaker 1: got it. Header the hot SAMs I got a pizza

2046
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 1: pretz over here, all right, So, Simon, I appreciate you

2047
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 1: participating in my little game. There is a guy on

2048
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 1: social media that has since the beginning of time I

2049
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: mentioned this exact scenario, and I was a Pittsburgh Steelers

2050
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: fan because my dad worked in the steel business and

2051
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: in those days, the areas that Simon and I just

2052
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: went over are the exact reason why you picked your

2053
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: favorite team. And I was a Steelers fan. Now I'm

2054
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: going to bring in Dan on this same Dan and

2055
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: Nick real quick, so we'll go with Dan. First. Dan's

2056
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: forty eight years old. Dan, did you grow up in Indianapolis?

2057
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 10: Well, I'm a little more than forty eight, Jake, but yes,

2058
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 10: I did grow up in Indianapolis. Okay, basically lived here.

2059
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 10: Are in the environment my entire life.

2060
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: Okay, when you were a young kid ten eleven, like

2061
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: the peak years of sports fandom, when you're first getting

2062
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: into it. Who was your team?

2063
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 10: Theiders?

2064
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Okay?

2065
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 10: And first, I love Ken Stable?

2066
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Okay. So and in addition to that, did you at

2067
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 1: any point, I mean, the Silver and Black in general

2068
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 1: was totally awesome? Right, Ken Stabler? With you know, I mean,

2069
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: obviously you had the miracle play and the left handed

2070
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: throw and all that, and the and the you know,

2071
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 1: kind of the gambling man looking deal. But did you, like,

2072
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 1: did your mom or dad or anybody like for a

2073
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 1: birthday or anything else get you like a Raider's hat

2074
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: or a Raiders jacket or any of that.

2075
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 10: They did get me a Raiders jacket once.

2076
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: Okay, So how when you were how old were you

2077
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: when the Colts moved to town?

2078
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 10: Oh gosh, how old would I have been that? If

2079
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 10: it was nineteen eighty two, I would have been eighty four,

2080
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:51,919
Speaker 10: a sophomore in college.

2081
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So then how long did it take before you

2082
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 1: were a Colts fan and you kind of waned off

2083
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: of your Raider fandom? Or are you still a Raider fan?

2084
01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

2085
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 10: No, I immediately. I am a hometown guy. I mean,

2086
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 10: there's nothing I hate worse than going into a stadium

2087
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 10: and seeing people like when Larry Bird would come rolling

2088
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 10: in with the Celtics. Oh it just it made me sick. Okay,

2089
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 10: with the faces. Okay, I'm a hometown guy, so I

2090
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 10: immediately switched over.

2091
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So, but Raiders were your team, right, I'm gonna

2092
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: go with one more here with Nick. Nick, you are

2093
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 1: fifty one years old, Is that right, Nick?

2094
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 15: I am indeed?

2095
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: Okay, you grew up in Indie, I did. Okay, If

2096
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 1: you recall when the Colts moved here, there was it

2097
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: was like this long remember it was I remember on

2098
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 1: the in the newspaper. It was like Colts moved on

2099
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: the back burner, then back on the front burner. I mean,

2100
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 1: it was a it was kind of a yo yo

2101
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 1: in the news story for several months leading up to it,

2102
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 1: and there was discussion that perhaps the Baltimore Colts were

2103
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: going to be moving to Phoenix or to Memphis. There

2104
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 1: were a couple of cities in play. But they built

2105
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: the RCAA Dome then known as the Hoosier Dome. We

2106
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: went down, we watched it being inflated, We watched the

2107
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: whole deal. At that time, Nick, before may Or hut

2108
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Nutt came out with Bob er say Armin arm at

2109
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,440
Speaker 1: Midfield with the Merchant's National Bank logo in the background.

2110
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 1: At that time, you were a fan of what NFL franchise.

2111
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:20,719
Speaker 18: The Cleveland Browns.

2112
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's another good one I should have thought of.

2113
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 1: And is that because you liked Brownie the Elf or

2114
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: because and this is probably the more common theme. Your

2115
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: dad or an uncle or somebody you knew was a

2116
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: fan of Jim Brown or was from the area and

2117
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: passed it along to you. What was the origin of

2118
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: your Brown fandom?

2119
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 18: My father grew up near the Ohio border, and he

2120
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 18: grew up before the Bengals were there, and so he

2121
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 18: grew up a Brown fan as a result of Marion

2122
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 18: Mottleotto Graham and Jim Brown.

2123
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Okay, and then you were since we are roughly the

2124
01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 1: same age, you were, how old before you were able

2125
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 1: to transition psychologically from Brown fandom into Colts fandom.

2126
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 18: I maintained my Browns fandom until Cleveland moved to Baltimore.

2127
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Okay.

2128
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 18: Then I officially got connected with Roger Goodell and the

2129
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 18: NFL and changed my fandom to the Indianapolis Colts.

2130
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Okay? The reason I asked Nick, and I'm going

2131
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: to keep you on the line to let you be

2132
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: the judge and jury. Here the point that I've been

2133
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: trying to make. There's a guy on social media that

2134
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 1: has literally like come after me every three to six

2135
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: months where he posts a thing that says that I'm

2136
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: a fake quote unquote, fake hometown hero because I claim

2137
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 1: to be all about Indianapolis, but I have mentioned the

2138
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 1: fact that I was a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers

2139
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:51,480
Speaker 1: in my childhood, and when they moved here, I nostalgically,

2140
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: like still felt that kid childhood aspect in it from

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Speaker 1: time to time when I would see the Steeler uniform

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Speaker 1: and was not immediately all all in on the Colts

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Speaker 1: because of my Steeler fandom and the fact that when

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Speaker 1: the Colts moved here, the Steelers were in the It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like the end of the big red machine

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01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 1: that you and I saw. The Steelers were breaking up

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Speaker 1: and you were moving and transitioning into like the you know,

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Speaker 1: the transition with Bubby Brister at quarterback, and you know,

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01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: Walter Abercrombie and Louis Lips were their offense, and you

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01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: were kind of holding on to some of the defensive

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Speaker 1: players of the steel curtain, but they were starting to

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01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: wane a little bit. And so it was a slow

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01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: transition for me before I became all in on the Colts.

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Speaker 1: And it was probably ten years before I was totally

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01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 1: all in, just because it was a hard transition for me.

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Speaker 1: And this guy continues to tell me that that is

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01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 1: wrong and that that makes me a fake homer, if

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Speaker 1: you will, and I believe it is my contention that

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Speaker 1: that actually is kind of the norm for people of

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Speaker 1: our age range, because we had over a decade of

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 1: fandom before the Colts were here. Your thoughts, Nick is

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01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: the judge and jury.

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Speaker 18: Jake. I'm fully behind you, and you are, if nothing,

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01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 18: a homer for Indiana. The only exceptions to that has

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Speaker 18: nothing to do with National Football League, though, the fact

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01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 18: that you're a Clemson fan is never endingly confusing to me.

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01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, can I explain my Clemson fandom?

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Speaker 18: Nick?

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Speaker 14: You can?

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Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want.

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01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 18: It's your show.

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01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: No, it's yours, Nick, It's the company. It's the company

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01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 1: that drives this show.

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Speaker 17: Nick.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember Ed Sorenson, Nick?

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Speaker 18: I do?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Ed Sorenson, you had a famous uh.

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01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 18: Back and forth with his co host Dion Willis.

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Speaker 1: Yes. Correct? Well, no, Well, Clyde Lee and Dion Willison

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01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 1: ended up marrying one another. Ed was on the set

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01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: with them along with Bob Klein. And when I was oh.

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01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 18: Yeah, Clyde Lee was the Ed was the show the

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01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 18: sports guy on that program.

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Speaker 1: Correct. When I was in the sixth grade, I called

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Speaker 1: Ed Soornson on the phone, and I told Ed Sorenson.

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01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,360
Speaker 1: I said, look, I want to be a sportscaster. And

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01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 1: Ed Sorenson said, everybody wants to be a sportscaster, but

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01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 1: if you want to come down here and hang out,

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01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 1: you can, And I did, and Ed Sorenson from day

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Speaker 1: one basically gave me carte blanche. I was like John

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01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: Feinstein in the season on the brink. I was at

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Speaker 1: the Channel six Sports office all the time, and I

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01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: was a diehard IU fan because if you cut me,

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01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: I bleed the torch. And I loved IU because it

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Speaker 1: said Indiana on the jersey. And I was in the

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Speaker 1: Channel six Sports office one day. I was midway through

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Speaker 1: college and Ed said to me, look, man, the one

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Speaker 1: thing you've got to learn is objectivity. You've got to

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Speaker 1: learn objectivity and you've got to learn impartiality if you

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01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 1: want to be a true broadcast journalist. This was a

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01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 1: different era, admittedly, and he said, for example, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you have intention or design of being a

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Speaker 1: sportscaster in Indianapolis, but if you want to begin learning objectivity,

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01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 1: you've got to start removing yourself from this like face

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01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 1: painting fandom. You have for IU and become more impartial

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01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:55,759
Speaker 1: in understanding their flaws, their weaknesses, the reasons they lose games,

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01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 1: win games, et cetera. And I said, but I love

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01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: I you. I mean, that's what I grew up on.

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Speaker 1: And I'd go to Eyu and he said, you know

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01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 1: what you should do. Pick a team that likely is

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01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: in a market you will never cover, and let that

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01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 1: be your outlet. Let that be the team that you're

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01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 1: all in on. Carry your emotion to that. And I said, okay.

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01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I've always liked Clemson because when

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Speaker 1: I was a little kid, we would go on vacation,

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01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 1: and when we would go on vacation, my mom would

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01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: allow us one junk food on vacation. And when I

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,759
Speaker 1: was a kid in South Carolina, we were at Hilton

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01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 1: Head and my mom allowed me one junk food for

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Speaker 1: the week. And the junk food I selected was a

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01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 1: six pack of Clemson orange soda and I had the

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01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: paw on it and I kept the can because Clemson

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01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,479
Speaker 1: won the national title that year. And I said, so,

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01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 1: I've always liked Clemson in football. I like Indiana, but

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01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: they're terrible, but Clemson was the national team. I would

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01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 1: kind of root for and the next day I care,

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01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 1: or a week later or whatever. The next time I

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01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 1: was in the Channel six sports office, Ed Sorenson gave

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01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 1: me a Clemson sweatshirt and said, there you go. That's

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01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: your team, that's who you're And so I started watching

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01:53:57,360 --> 01:54:00,919
Speaker 1: in the sports office games on satellite of Clemson football

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01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: and seeing the crowds and everything else. And I was

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01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: twenty one at the time, twenty maybe twenty one, and

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01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: they were always good enough to keep me interested and

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01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 1: not good enough to finally get it done. And years

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01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 1: ago I decided, you know what, enough, I'm going to

2237
01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: buy season tickets and I did, and within like three

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01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,760
Speaker 1: years they were national champions. And I love going down

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01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 1: to games because it's eight hours away. It's just a

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Speaker 1: good getaway and it's a great college town. And that

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01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: explains why I'm a fan of Clemson. But I am

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Speaker 1: Indiana through and through, and as a kid, I lived

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Speaker 1: in Shelbyville, Indiana. And there's a guy living in Shelbyville,

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01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Indiana that would like to actually take Shelbyville on the

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Speaker 1: road and do it by getting Indiana and a limelight

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Speaker 1: on a national stage that matter, almost an international stage.

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01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,720
Speaker 1: And it's a topic that we've talked about plenty with

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01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: Debbie Antonelli when we talk about the fever, and both

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01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: of those individuals will join me as part of our

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Speaker 1: Franciscan help feel Good Good for the Hert Friday, and

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01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: they'll do it next query in.

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Speaker 7: Company on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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01:54:59,160 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 7: the fan?

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01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 1: Is this like an old U forty five vinyl that

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01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,959
Speaker 1: you found? Version of this song? Sounds a little bit distorted?

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01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 3: There?

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01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 1: Oh here, here, isn't it? What's going on with Huey Lewis?

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01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 1: I know Hughey Lewis is apparently retiring because he has

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01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 1: a hearing problem, if I'm not mistaken. But when you

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01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 1: hear that on a Friday, bottom of the hour at

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01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 1: two o'clock, you know what it means. It means it

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01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: is time for our Franciscan hell feel good Good for

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01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: the Hert Friday. I love telling a story each and

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01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: every Friday, and I would encourage all of you to

2265
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: submit to me via email or you all know my

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01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: cell phone number by now three one seven five two

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01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 1: three ninety two eighty eight. The telephone number three one

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Speaker 1: seven five three ninety two eighty eight is my cell

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01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: phone and I love hearing stories of those young people

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01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 1: in high school or whether it be for their school

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01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 1: itself or wherever it might be, that are overcoming obstacles,

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01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: that are overcoming odds, that are doing something that when

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01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: you watch it, you say to yourself, that's the essence

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: of sport. Yes, we talk about the cults and thecers

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01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: and the fever and the upper echelon of sports, but

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01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: sport is about so much more than that. It's about

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01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: unifying the masses, and it's about people coming together for

2278
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 1: a common cause and sometimes just to elevate the game

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01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: of somebody that we didn't realize had been working themselves

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01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: to elevate their game and now is doing so on

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01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 1: a big stage for all of us to cheer for.

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01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 1: And that includes the story that we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about today. And before we get to John Wheeler, who

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01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 1: comes from an area that I know a little about, Shelbyville, Indiana.

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01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 1: I did live in country Club Heights. I've had many

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01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: a milkshake at the Compton's Kyl Palace. Before we get

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 1: to John, and now he is putting Shelbyville on a

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01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 1: big stage. Let's bring in Debbie Antonelli, who, of course

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01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 1: we talk with on a regular basis about the Indiana fever.

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,839
Speaker 1: We have discussed with Debbie the triumphs of her son Frankie,

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01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 1: who is out making his way in the world after

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01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: going through a special education in Special Olympics upbringing Debbie.

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01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,000
Speaker 1: The reality is this is a friendship and a story

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01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: that comes because of the fact that somebody thinks they're

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01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: better at an area of expertise. That you say, there

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of areas John, where you're good, but

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01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: you're not a better free throw shooter, right, and the

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01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 1: two of you have now I think I have a

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01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: special relationship. Thanks for coming on and tell me what

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01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: it is that jumped out at you, Debbie about this

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01:57:19,560 --> 01:57:20,839
Speaker 1: story involving John Wheeler.

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Speaker 14: Well, I want to thank the commissioner of the Horizon League,

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01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 14: Julie row Lash, for introducing me to John through the

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01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:32,240
Speaker 14: Horizon League Championships, which are held here in Indianapolis, a

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Speaker 14: basketball championship. I should say, John is a Special Olympic

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Speaker 14: athlete who came out one morning to shoot some free

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01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 14: throws with me. Jake, as you know, twenty four hours

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 14: nothing but net is my free throw shooting marathon for

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01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 14: Special Olympics that in seven years, we have been able

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01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 14: to raise one point four million dollars for Special Olympics.

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01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 14: And John is an athlete that I met, and I

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01:57:56,680 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 14: was drawn to John because he is an absolute winner.

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01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 14: Everything about John speaks winning, and he and I became

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01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:04,880
Speaker 14: fast friends.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's bring John onto the program. John, you

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01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,839
Speaker 1: are a part of Team Indiana and you are getting ready.

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01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 1: You have been a part of not only a player

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01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 1: in Special Olympics, but coaching as well. But I want

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01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: to go back to the origin of all of this,

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 1: and that is when John, you had adversity come your

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Speaker 1: way in terms of your dream of playing basketball. When

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01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 1: and you correct me if I'm wrong, you tried out

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01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: for the team at Shelbyville High School and you didn't

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01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: make the team, but you found out that that didn't

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Speaker 1: have to mean the end of your career. Is that correct, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 4: The one small correction is I'm from this Chebbyville area,

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01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 4: but I grew up in Morristown, a small town twenty

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Speaker 4: minutes north of Chelbyville, and that's where I used to

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Speaker 4: play basketball, and that's where I got cut the Morristown

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Speaker 4: Yellow Jackets. Okay, sorry about that, You're good, but apart

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01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 4: from that. Yeah, So when I got cut from a team,

2332
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:04,920
Speaker 4: a friend of mine told me about Special Olympics. And

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Speaker 4: now I consider it a blessing that I got cut.

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Speaker 4: Special Olympics changed my life and Mamie, who I am today?

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Speaker 1: Okay? And with that, you are a champion in Special Olympics,

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01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 1: not just because of finding a new way to continue

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01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:22,680
Speaker 1: your dream and passion of playing basketball. And I would

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01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: imagine John, not to day goes by when you don't

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01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 1: sit and think about that game winning shot that you

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01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: hit that lifted your team to a championship. Tell me

2341
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: about what it is I'm talking about there.

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01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 15: Oh man, you're absolutely right.

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01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 4: I mean, not a day goes by, right?

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01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 15: Or Jack? About that shot?

2345
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 4: Double overtime game against Argue Weed and best team I've

2346
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 4: ever played against on a national stage. I don't know

2347
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 4: if it was because of my skill or by God's grace.

2348
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 4: I'm probably going to go with God's grace since it

2349
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 4: was a fadeaway jump shot against the double team. But

2350
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:05,000
Speaker 4: that shot. First, I got to give credit to my teammates.

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02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,040
Speaker 4: They're the ones who gave me the ball and they

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Speaker 4: trusted me to make that shot. I'm just happy I

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Speaker 4: could come through for them and for my home state.

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Speaker 4: But that shot, Yeah, I think about that shot every

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Speaker 4: single day and it just it just reminds me of

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Speaker 4: what Special Olympics has done for me when I when

2357
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Speaker 4: I first joined, I didn't believe in myself since I

2358
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 4: just got cut. But by paying in Special Olympics, it

2359
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 4: gave me. It gave me confidence in myself that I

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Speaker 4: can overcome anything and overcome any obstacle. And that was

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Speaker 4: just in our obstacle. And as I said before, I'm

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Speaker 4: really glad I came through for my team, for myself

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Speaker 4: and for my home state.

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Speaker 1: You know. And I want to go back to Debbie, John,

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Speaker 1: hang on your second. We'll come back to in your second, John,

2366
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:58,560
Speaker 1: But Debbie, let's get to this because this is what

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Speaker 1: I love about it. And I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: we're going to try to help John continue in pursuing

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Speaker 1: his dream here. But to me, it is so special

2370
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Speaker 1: when you hear John say, here's a young man that

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Speaker 1: hits a shot that wins for the state of Indiana,

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Speaker 1: wins for Indiana a national Special Olympics championship, hits the shot,

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Speaker 1: and yet says I want to give credit to my

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Speaker 1: teammates for having faith in me in that situation. For

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Speaker 1: John to get to that moment, John had to have

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Speaker 1: faith in himself. But at the same time, the essence

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Speaker 1: of sport is the fact that he recognizes, probably even

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Speaker 1: more so than some of the elite athletes we talk

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Speaker 1: about on a regular basis, He recognizes that it takes

2380
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Speaker 1: the belief from others for you then to ultimately be

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Speaker 1: able to carry And to me, that is such an

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Speaker 1: important lesson.

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Speaker 14: And wouldn't you want to help somebody that needs a

2384
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 14: little extra, someone that would believe in you and would

2385
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 14: give you some motivation or some resource to be able

2386
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 14: to help you achieve your dream. The special Olympics oath

2387
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 14: is let me win, but if I cannot win, let

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02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 14: me be brave in the attempt. When the first thing

2389
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 14: out of John's mouth is about his teammates and giving

2390
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 14: credit to them, that speaks to a champion's heart right there.

2391
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 14: And he is a champion.

2392
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 8: He's much more than just a winner on the basketball floor.

2393
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Speaker 4: He has won in many aspects.

2394
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Speaker 14: Of his life because he does have the self confidence

2395
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 14: that comes with being able to complete a task, to

2396
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 14: set a goal and to achieve, and that's what he's

2397
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 14: done through Special Olympics. And I'm just grateful that he

2398
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 14: wants to be my friend because I love having friends like.

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Speaker 1: John and Debbie. He's a better free throw shooter than you,

2400
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:33,560
Speaker 1: right or is he not?

2401
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 14: In no way, man, John's got no chance.

2402
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go back to John. John, here's the

2403
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,839
Speaker 1: bottom line. You know, there was a guy from Indiana

2404
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 1: named Keith Smart that once hit a national championship shot

2405
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 1: for Indiana University, and people here were so proud of it.

2406
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,839
Speaker 1: We still talk about it. John, you are like Keith Smart.

2407
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 1: You hit a national championship shot for the state of Indiana,

2408
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: and now you have the chance to do what Indiana

2409
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 1: did in nineteen ninety two, go back to an elite

2410
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:07,000
Speaker 1: level of national championships in Minneapolis, Minnesota. But tell me

2411
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:10,640
Speaker 1: about the quest now, John, to continue your career in

2412
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: Special Olympics and what it is in Minnesota that await.

2413
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 4: You, Oh believe or now you're not the first person

2414
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 4: to ask me that question. Over the past couple of weeks,

2415
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 4: I feel like I still have so much more to

2416
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 4: give the Special Olympics, both on and off the court.

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02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 4: I mean, as a I want to keep playing. I

2418
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 4: mean I want to keep I love basketball. I love

2419
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 4: I love being on that court. It's where I'm happiest,

2420
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 4: especially when I'm beating people in freetball contests. And I've

2421
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 4: never lost a freetball contest, that's right, Ben. But also

2422
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 4: I also realize that I'm getting up there in age.

2423
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I've been playing sports all my life and

2424
02:03:57,080 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 4: I want to continue to help Special Olympics in any

2425
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 4: way I can, especially in my community. So I want

2426
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 4: to keep playing for as long as I can. But

2427
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 4: but when I go, when I go to Minnesota, I

2428
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:16,879
Speaker 4: want to help the team I'm coaching assistant coach however

2429
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:21,040
Speaker 4: I can, and hope we we can do. Hope we

2430
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 4: can do what did what all Indiana teams do when

2431
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 4: it bring back bringing home a national championship.

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02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, John, let me tell you something there. I know

2433
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:34,720
Speaker 1: you want to win the national championship, John, Okay, I

2434
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:37,680
Speaker 1: get that, and I appreciate that, and everybody in Indiana

2435
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 1: is pulling for you to do that. Okay, But at

2436
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the same time, I want you during that journey and

2437
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:48,160
Speaker 1: you know this, but I want you to think back

2438
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,720
Speaker 1: to that time when and we all have had this

2439
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 1: in our life, when you when you got that word

2440
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 1: at Morristown, that you didn't make the team, and you

2441
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 1: thought it was over, and then you realize that there

2442
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 1: was still an avenue for you to pursue what it

2443
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 1: is that is your happy place playing basketball in the court.

2444
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 1: And John, your teammates found you and they got you

2445
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 1: the ball, and your coaches believed in you to design

2446
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:14,000
Speaker 1: that play. But you put yourself in that position, and

2447
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 1: you put yourself in that position, John, because you never

2448
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,560
Speaker 1: lost sight of what that dream was and you didn't

2449
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 1: let adversity get in your way. So we're going to

2450
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 1: do everything we can to make sure that nothing stops

2451
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: you from getting to Minneapolis. Okay, And regardless of whether

2452
02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:32,200
Speaker 1: or not you bring home the hardware in the physical sense,

2453
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: certainly know that everybody listening to this show right now

2454
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: knows that John Wheeler is going to be a champion

2455
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 1: representing the state of Indiana. Which brings me back to

2456
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:45,959
Speaker 1: Debbie Antonelli and John. I appreciate it, Debbie, John challenged

2457
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 1: you in free throws. John challenged Greg Doyle in free throws.

2458
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 1: Julia Ralash saw what John had in free throws and

2459
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:56,879
Speaker 1: had him there at the Horizon League and made the introduction.

2460
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:00,080
Speaker 1: But you now have a challenge that I love for

2461
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,120
Speaker 1: the listeners of this show. And John is oh so

2462
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:06,320
Speaker 1: close in that question to get to Minnesota. He's like

2463
02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: basically at the Wisconsin border. He's so close. But there's

2464
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 1: a way, Debbie, that you and I can reach out

2465
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 1: to the listeners of this show to help John reach

2466
02:06:14,520 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: his goal. And you've got a challenge for people, Debbie,

2467
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 1: let me know what that is.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Jake, I mean, I'm so proud of John, how

2469
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 14: hard he works, what he represents for all special Olympic

2470
02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 14: athletes that I want to challenge everybody. I'm going to

2471
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:34,280
Speaker 14: make a minimum of a one hundred dollars donation, and then,

2472
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 14: however many threes are made combined between Minnesota and Indiana tonight,

2473
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:43,520
Speaker 14: I'm going to add another twenty dollars for every three

2474
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 14: point basket that is made tonight.

2475
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 21: All right, I'm asking anyone out there that would like

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02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 21: to consider helping with a three point made basket, however

2477
02:06:54,440 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 21: many it totals up between Indiana and Minnesota, that's the

2478
02:06:57,320 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 21: number that I'm going to donate, and I hope that

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02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:01,480
Speaker 21: there's some.

2480
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 14: Others out there that would like to get involved and

2481
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 14: help John on his way to Minneapolis.

2482
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 1: So, Debbie, here's what we're going to do. I appreciate it.

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02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 1: John has set up a GoFundMe to help him get

2484
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 1: there because it is expensive to travel and you know,

2485
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:15,680
Speaker 1: to get this team there for Team Indiana. Debbie, it

2486
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 1: is much appreciated, and I'm going to do two things.

2487
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: Number one, I am going to put up on my

2488
02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:24,680
Speaker 1: social media that's at Jake Query jak e q U

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Speaker 1: e r Y. Just in a couple of minutes here

2490
02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 1: I will put up the link where you can make

2491
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 1: a click and make a donation, even if it's a

2492
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 1: one dollar donation. It is much appreciated to get John

2493
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: to his goal. He's been working hard to raise money

2494
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:38,720
Speaker 1: and contribute on his own, but we want to get

2495
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 1: him across that finish line to make sure that he

2496
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 1: and his teammates from Indiana have the funding to represent

2497
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: this great state in the OsO Special Special Olympics in

2498
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaker 1: the National Championships in Minnesota. And in addition to that,

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Speaker 1: as always, I give my number out on the air

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Speaker 1: at three one seven five two three ninety two eighty eight.

2501
02:07:57,800 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 1: Anybody who has my number in their phone or just

2502
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 1: me say it right there if you would like the

2503
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,960
Speaker 1: link to make a donation, then I will happily forward

2504
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 1: that to you. Simply send me a text and I

2505
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 1: will get it to you and we will get John

2506
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: on his way there. John appreciate it, and Debbie appreciate it.

2507
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 1: As always. John, we wish you the best of luck

2508
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 1: and we know that you're going to do us proud

2509
02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:19,520
Speaker 1: either way, but we're going to get you to Minnesota.

2510
02:08:19,520 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 1: It's the kind of story that makes your heart feel

2511
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,280
Speaker 1: good when you think about Debbie Antonelli her son Frankie

2512
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 1: and their commitment to one another and their commitment to

2513
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: special Olympics. And when you think about your heart feeling good,

2514
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,560
Speaker 1: you want to make sure it good. It feels good,

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02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 1: and that's why Franciscan Health in the physical sense is

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Speaker 1: there for you with the heart scan for just forty

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Speaker 1: nine dollars. It is the first step towards making sure

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Speaker 1: that you are getting into that proper health from a

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Speaker 1: cardiobascular standpoint. Franciscan Health recommends this for anybody over the

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Speaker 1: age of forty, in particular, if you've got a history

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Speaker 1: of diabetes, obesity, you're a former smoker, or if there

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Speaker 1: is a history of heart disease within your family. Just

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Speaker 1: forty nine dollars for a heart scan from Franciscan and

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Speaker 1: Franciscan is ranked number one, number one, the number one

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Speaker 1: heart program in Indiana for cardiology by health grades, number

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Speaker 1: one in Indiana by care checks. They want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you are staying on top of it and

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Speaker 1: slash screening bundles or called eight three three two three

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Speaker 1: three eight zero six eight eight to get that non invasive,

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Speaker 1: very easy to do heart scan from from Franciscan. Easier

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Speaker 1: for me to say, right, we'll take a quick break,

2535
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll hand it off to John and

2536
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: find out what he's got lined up on the big

2537
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 1: program next. JMV has arrived.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 1: We had a busy show today, and I appreciate everybody

2540
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 1: calling in, especially those that justified that I'm not an

2541
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: Indianapolis hater, because I admitted to being a Steelers fan

2542
02:09:44,880 --> 02:09:47,160
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. John, we were talking about

2543
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 1: it earlier. I know you and I've talked about this

2544
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 1: when you were a kid. Yeah, the you and I've

2545
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,760
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, actually, But which did you

2546
02:09:54,960 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 1: have between the Sears and Roebuck Corporation, the Indy or

2547
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:08,800
Speaker 1: not Indy, the NFL bedspread, bed sheets, sleeping bag, snow hat,

2548
02:10:09,200 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: sideline coat, all of it, or or letter jacket. I

2549
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 1: had every bit of it. Everything was Bears, Bears, every

2550
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,400
Speaker 1: bit of it. So you were a Bears fan?

2551
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 18: Now?

2552
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 1: Is that because the robe?

2553
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 22: Yeah?

2554
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 1: I had the robe. How about the trash can? Trash can?

2555
02:10:26,000 --> 02:10:27,840
Speaker 1: I still have the trash can at home. I do too.

2556
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:29,920
Speaker 1: I still have to get a picture of this too.

2557
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 22: I was telling everybody I still have the starter's jackets

2558
02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 22: from the eighties too. I've got two Kansas City Royals.

2559
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:38,839
Speaker 1: Which are awesome. Yeah, that's just like the late Dick.

2560
02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 22: Houser at him when I put them on, and an

2561
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:43,680
Speaker 22: old Bears look like ditka.

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02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, the you know, you and I've talked about this,

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Speaker 1: but I think people just forget that in our childhood.

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Speaker 1: So what what age were you, John? Were you were

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Speaker 1: able to kind of then start really getting into the

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Speaker 1: colts because you were how old when they moved you

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Speaker 1: would have been in like I'm guessing you would have

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Speaker 1: been seventh probably was. It's weird.

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Speaker 22: Once you start doing this, you just try to have

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Speaker 22: to be as balanced as possible. I always say I

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Speaker 22: want people to have enjoyment, and clearly there's nothing enjoyable

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Speaker 22: about this crap, but I want people to have enjoyment,

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Speaker 22: especially when they're out there spending the money. But I

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Speaker 22: was probably a Bears fan up until maybe mid to

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Speaker 22: late nineties, like watching them every weekend and really caring.

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Speaker 1: And which is about the time that, let's be real,

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Speaker 1: the Colts, Yeah, nineteen ninety five season. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they didn't give you a lot of reason to Grik.

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Speaker 22: Kramer being the Bears quarterback may have been kind of

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Speaker 22: it for me right there. That was the swan song

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Speaker 22: of me being a Bears fan. He was the quarterback.

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Speaker 22: And who was the Cedric Benson, Yeah, running back from

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Speaker 22: the quarterback the running back at the time, Curtis Conway

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Speaker 22: was the wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: That was like the last gasp right there, the you

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Speaker 1: know the Bears, the I'll tell you. One of the

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Speaker 1: things that's funny about those Bears teams back in the day,

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Speaker 1: right it is can you imagine today John a team

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Speaker 1: coming out with the Super Bowl shuffle three quarters the

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Speaker 1: way through the regular season. The fur that would create

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Speaker 1: no social media, I mean they like that. It's unbelievable

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Speaker 1: and social media would go crazy. It is unbelievable that

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Speaker 1: they did do that.

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Speaker 22: Though, And you can send it back out or you'd

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Speaker 22: be described as an aggregator or whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: We of the nerds say aggregator. Agreg Yeah, aggregator. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the dorks nerds come up with some funny stuff.

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Speaker 1: Because I will say the Super Bowl shofvel was pretty awesome, right,

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 22: I thought the best part of it was when Calvin Thomas,

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Speaker 22: the backup running back, was fake playing the saxophone.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. And there were there were like four

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Speaker 1: linemen that never were played at all, like special teams

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Speaker 1: guys that were standing in the back just too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty awesome. Who was the best player on

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Speaker 1: the Bears team not to be a part of that?

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Speaker 1: Do we remember?

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Speaker 8: That?

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Speaker 1: Is a great question. Was Wilbert Marshall in it? I

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Speaker 1: don't think Wilburt Marshall was in it. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Dan Hampton and it was definitely not in it, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Was the elate Steve mcmicha. I think so. He was

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Speaker 1: in it, and they had a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 22: If you watched that thirty for thirty two with not

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Speaker 22: licking the fridge and loving Buddy Ryan, not liking Mike Ditka,

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Speaker 22: there was like a divide between offense and defense with

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Speaker 22: that Patridge. I mean, that's the reason why they couldn't

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Speaker 22: win multiple super Bowls or challenge for multiple super Bowls

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Speaker 22: because they are pretty much rotten on the inside, inside out.

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Speaker 1: Back then, what's on the Big Show today?

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Speaker 22: John, We're gonna get started high school football later on tonight,

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Speaker 22: and Bob Lovell joins us hashtag gass, pat Don Fisher

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Speaker 22: a voice of the wo's just not too far away

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Speaker 22: from the start of their season, and oh who all

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Speaker 22: Tom Dean Hard I think I want to maker side

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Speaker 22: of things that's up here with with Tommy d. But yeah,

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Speaker 22: Sears and Roebuck the NFL brand when they made those

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Speaker 22: those are the absolute best. Nothing has ever been as

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Speaker 22: good as that active wear.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean everything about it was awesome. And every kid

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Speaker 1: our age, like in the winter time when you see him,

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Speaker 1: we're all wearing the hat with the little snowball on

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Speaker 1: the that's great, and you know what, I was just

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Speaker 1: a Bears guy.

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Speaker 22: But can you imagine if you had the Seahawks gear

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Speaker 22: from that era, how cool that.

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Speaker 1: Would be the best.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 1: That's why I've always kind of had like this weird

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Speaker 1: affinity for the Seahawks, just because of nostalgia of how

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Speaker 1: awesome those colors were back in the Steve Largent, Jim

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Speaker 1: Zorn Era.

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Speaker 22: Jim Zorn, Steve Largent active Wear, Grow Warner with the Sea.

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Speaker 1: All right, John's up next. We will be back with

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Speaker 1: you on Monday, obviously at noon. And I thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening to Quarry Company.