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Speaker 1: Why from Ball Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today got everything.

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Speaker 2: This is the biggest scandal in the history of our country.

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Speaker 2: And it really goes on to even the Autopen because

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Speaker 2: it all relates to the same thing. It all started

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Speaker 2: the same sick minds. You have an autopen, which is

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Speaker 2: a tremendous way. We don't have a president. We have

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Speaker 2: an autopen that sides everything. I'll bet you sign everything.

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Speaker 2: You don't have what I'm doing. Everybody who doesn't sign,

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Speaker 3: But it's all that whole thing leading right up to

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Speaker 3: the end of it as the autopen, and the autopen

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Speaker 3: was used by people and Biden knew nothing about it.

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Speaker 4: Biden knew nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: They were signing documents that he knew nothing about. As

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Speaker 2: an example, they released the Unselect Committee of Liability. The

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Speaker 2: Unseelect Committee spent two years grilling everybody, and then they

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Speaker 4: You know why, because the evidence made them guilty.

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Speaker 5: And he gave them all a parton the Cheney, all

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Speaker 5: the scum that was on the Unselect Committee crying Adam

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Speaker 5: Kinzinger and Democrats.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's not wrong. President Trump inviting the President of

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Speaker 6: the Philippines into the Oval Office, Fernando Marcos Junior. And

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Speaker 6: for those of you who remember the days of Memel

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Speaker 6: de Marcos, yup, there's the connectivity. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 6: Good to be with you. So that's happening. And Trump

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Speaker 6: has been on a roll. It's been going on for

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Speaker 6: a while. Oh, there's been cursing everything, talk about Barack Obama.

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Speaker 6: He did this in Russia, Russia, Russia, and he's guilty, which,

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Speaker 6: by the way, he is. And now I think we're

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Speaker 6: about to see the showdown of showdowns. We're gonna find

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Speaker 6: out exactly how much poll Barack Obama still has the

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Speaker 6: Democratic Party spoiler alert, not as much as he used to.

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Speaker 6: When you push Joe Biden out, When you pushed Joe

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Speaker 6: back Kamala Harris by yelling at black men to not

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Speaker 6: be traders to their race, it's a great what a

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Speaker 6: what a strategy, Barack Obama. My goodness, did I say, hello,

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 6: So Trump be Obama. Let's see how Hardy goes Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: It back to the president by the seven billion, and

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Speaker 2: we want money to go to all universities, not Harvard.

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Speaker 2: Harvard got more than anybody else. They have fifty two

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. They get huge tax incentives and tax breaks

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Speaker 4: Short period of time. Then we have a very hostile You're.

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Speaker 2: Appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, very very hostile.

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Speaker 6: We're back to Hussein now is exactly right from wrong.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we don't we expect to win it

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Speaker 2: She hasn't given a decision yet, but she's very hostile

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Speaker 4: That does that, it's going to we're gonna have problems with.

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Speaker 2: So we don't expect to have we we won the

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Speaker 4: But a lot of the case, and a big.

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Speaker 2: Part of it's going to be how much money Harvard

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Speaker 4: That's not part of the case. Uh, And they're not

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Speaker 7: Negotiating about the reciprocultaria.

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Speaker 6: How far we.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I used to like him better than I

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Speaker 4: But he is he's strong, that strong negotiator. He loves

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Speaker 8: Where you talked a lot about the severe consequences that

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Speaker 8: Your answert, what are the next steps now that these

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Speaker 4: Well, the justice to Barbo would have to act.

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Speaker 2: And we have a very competent, very good, very loyal

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Speaker 4: Very respected, and she it's going to be her decision.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that you're going to see her act.

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Speaker 6: these things do matter, and they matter greatly in what

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Speaker 6: it is. Barack Obama did, James Comy did, James Clapper did?

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Speaker 6: John Brennan did? Loretta Lynch did? Joe Biden did? Andrew

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Speaker 6: work to connect Donald Trump to it. So it went down.

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Speaker 6: It's how it happened, and so I should there be

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Speaker 6: an investigation, Absolutely, should charges come, Absolutely? Should should people

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Speaker 6: They're terrible. The part that matters is that we see

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Speaker 6: That's That's the entirety of the conversation. It is not

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Speaker 6: And we go back to special election or run off

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter if you vote in this election. Do

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Speaker 6: And I had trolls reaching out to me, Tony, you

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Speaker 6: don't understand. They'll never be a fair election again. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is president of the United States right now,

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Speaker 6: So tell me more about how the elections don't matter.

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Speaker 6: It was always just such ridiculousness. People who had no

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Speaker 6: these low life criminals have to be dealt with. One

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Speaker 6: thousand percent must be dealt with. Reality says, I'm not

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Speaker 6: I hate that, and that stinks to high heaven. But

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Speaker 6: Reality is also in taking a look at these files

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Speaker 6: regarding Martin Luther King, and they got released yesterday, some

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Speaker 6: captivating public curiosity for decades. I would say that that's correct.

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Speaker 6: What do we know about Ray? James Earl Ray? Of course,

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Speaker 6: much are they annoyed by all this talk about Jeffrey Epstein? Right,

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Speaker 6: I wonder how much they're they're really bothered by it?

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Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be innovasive because the reality is

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Speaker 6: I leave the political evaluations to other people.

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Speaker 9: But nevertheless, there are millions upon millions of people in

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Speaker 9: You look at the White the Redskins name obviously is

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Speaker 6: Tony kats today, Colbert or Hunter? Which one do you want? People?

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Speaker 6: Which one do you want? Do you want more of

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Speaker 6: Of these people? Well, I don't think that was necessary

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Speaker 6: At his show last night, Stephen Colbert has well some

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Speaker 6: you have this outing of late night hosts all what's

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Speaker 6: showing you what an absolute scam this is. They don't

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Speaker 6: care about entertainment, They only care about doing the bare

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Speaker 6: minimum collecting a paycheck. Better to work together than try

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Speaker 6: and compete, weak sauce if you ask me. They're all

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Speaker 6: in on it, all the same talking points. And then

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Speaker 6: you have Colbert still going after the company that gave

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Speaker 6: him ten years and millions and millions and millions and

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Speaker 6: millions of dollars. CBS should end that show today, how ungrateful,

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Speaker 6: how ugly he's gonna what, just to mock them for

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Speaker 6: the next ten months, as opposed to recognizing the company

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Speaker 6: needs to be able to survive and maybe his programming

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00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 6: doesn't work. Guys, there'll be a day they'll say, my

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Speaker 6: programming doesn't work. I could be out of a job

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Speaker 6: next month. I could be out of a job tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: For all I know. You're not owed it, and this

446
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 6: is what you're gonna do. Act like you're owed it.

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00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 6: The elitism, the total disconnect from all of us, the

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Speaker 6: total lack of comedy. CBS is going to have ten

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Speaker 6: months of getting punched in the face. Or they could

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Speaker 6: turn it off today. Yeah, you'll take heat for a

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Speaker 6: few days and then after that you move on. CBS

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Speaker 6: should turn it off, cancel it today. Do not deal

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Speaker 6: with this for ten months and then be vilified. Then

454
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Speaker 6: deal with this for ten more minutes. You get vilified.

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Speaker 6: Now it'll be faster, it'll be quicker, it'll be better.

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Speaker 6: Colbert never deserved you. All that money and the guy

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Speaker 6: still hates you. All that opportunity and the guy still

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Speaker 6: hates you. That's Colbert and we'll get into Hunter in

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Speaker 6: just a few Keep it here. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 6: So as you know by now, Hunter Biden did an interview,

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Speaker 6: and Hunter Biden's interview is completely and totally insane, starting

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Speaker 6: with I know why my dad did terribly at the debate.

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Speaker 11: I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew

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Speaker 11: around the world basically the mileage that he could have

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Speaker 11: flown around the world three times. Yeah, he's eighty one

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Speaker 11: years old. He's give him ambient to be able to sleep.

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Speaker 11: He gets up on the stage and he looks like

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Speaker 11: he's a deer in the headlights.

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Speaker 6: Ambient. I've taken ambien once in my life. I was

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Speaker 6: in a hospital. I knew I was hallucinating Tony Kats

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Speaker 6: Tony Kats today. It was awful, brutal. I wouldn't take

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Speaker 6: ambient again, and ever ever, ever, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 6: But then you have him talking about how Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 6: took out his dad, I mean took him right out.

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Speaker 11: You would have the speaker emeritus that would say, well,

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Speaker 11: you know, I'm gonna leave it up to but I

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Speaker 11: don't know, and uh and and they'd already made a decision.

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Speaker 11: They clearly made a decision.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 11: And when I say they, I mean the speaker. And

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Speaker 11: you know, I heard Alexander Pelosi say something called my my,

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Speaker 11: like put your big girl pants on to my mom

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Speaker 11: or something, and I kind of feel like saying, who

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Speaker 11: the f you think you are? I would never speak

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Speaker 11: about your mom that way. I would never speak about

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Speaker 11: your father that way. I would never insult your parents

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Speaker 11: that way, even to this day, I would never.

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Speaker 6: So now you're saying me, oh, so he was doing

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Speaker 6: some cursing. Oh oh kitten, oh boo boo. He was

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Speaker 6: doing some major league cursing, like on immigration, which of

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Speaker 6: course he doesn't discuss as illegal immigration.

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Speaker 11: I'm wondering mins be like all these democrats say, you

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Speaker 11: have to talk about and realize that people are really

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Speaker 11: upset about illegal immigration. You, how do you think your

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Speaker 11: hotel room gets cleaned? How do you think you have

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Speaker 11: food on your food table? Who do you think washes

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Speaker 11: your dishes?

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Speaker 6: Who do you think does your fucking garden?

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Speaker 4: Who do you think is here? By the fucking sheer.

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Speaker 11: Just grit and will that they've figured out a way

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Speaker 11: to get here because they thought that they could give

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Speaker 11: theirselves in their family a better chance. And he's somehow

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Speaker 11: convinced all of us that these people are the fun criminals.

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Speaker 6: Perfect. He's uh, he's got it all together, there does that,

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Speaker 6: Hunter Biden man. And and let me tell you he's

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Speaker 6: sowing Democrats under the bus. The whole Clooney thing. Oh,

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Speaker 6: the George loneyth I'll get to the George Clooney thing,

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Speaker 6: just one after another. And I I said, like, who

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Speaker 6: in the world, who in the world thought to interview?

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Speaker 6: It him? And and something something table That's what I

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Speaker 6: thought the name of the organization was that did the interview.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to get get that wrong. They deserve

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Speaker 6: that respect for getting the interview done. And I'm like,

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Speaker 6: why in the world is he doing the interview? Everything

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Speaker 6: else I thought, Hugh Hewitt nailed it, nailed it. Hugh

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Speaker 6: Hewitt said, the reason he's doing the interview is because

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Speaker 6: he's the only Biden that can still make some money.

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Speaker 6: They can't make any money anymore. There's no one coming

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Speaker 6: for speeches. There is no one who wants to bring

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Speaker 6: him on to a board or Jill Biden on to

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Speaker 6: a board. They know what they did. Their selfishness got

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump reelected. They could have stepped away months before.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats could have run a real campaign. They could

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Speaker 6: have had a real a real primary, they could have

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Speaker 6: had a shot. But Nope, those bidens. And maybe if

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Speaker 6: he goes out there and he is this guy, maybe

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Speaker 6: there's opportunities for him. And yes, as the chat room

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Speaker 6: has noted, they kicked back ten percent for the big guy.

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Speaker 6: That's accurate, that is it. I thought that was a

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Speaker 6: smart take from Hugh Hewitt. There is Comy and Clinton.

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Speaker 6: That story is worthy of a discussion. Will break down

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Speaker 6: why it is the Trump administration is moving out of

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Speaker 6: UNESCO and rightfully so. And what's happening with education choice?

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Speaker 6: And how do Democrat governors deal with the opportunity that

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Speaker 6: their citizens now have. I've got all that coming up.

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Speaker 6: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. So much more

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Speaker 6: is happening. This is Tony Katz today. Why from dall

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Speaker 6: Hertbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 10: I believe you try to white the entire sho try

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Speaker 10: to where no personal.

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Speaker 7: Well, my personal emails are my personal business.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: So we went through a painstaking process and turned over

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Speaker 7: fifty five thousand pages. If anything we thought could be

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Speaker 7: work related, under the law, that decision is made by

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Speaker 7: the official. I was the official. I made those decisions

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Speaker 7: for sure, what like with a cloth or something. Well, no,

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Speaker 7: I don't know how it works digitally at all.

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Speaker 4: I do not have.

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Speaker 7: Any ed I know you want to make a point,

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Speaker 7: and I can just repeat what I have said. In

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Speaker 7: order to in order to be as cooperative as possible,

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Speaker 7: we have turned over the server. They can do whatever

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Speaker 7: they want to with the server to figure out what's there,

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Speaker 7: what's not there.

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Speaker 6: That's Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. Why in the world

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Speaker 6: am I going into the wayback machine to hear Hillary

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Speaker 6: Clinton lie about her server that she's set up to

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Speaker 6: be able to send out communications outside of the purview

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Speaker 6: of House oversight. Because that's always what it was from

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Speaker 6: beginning to end. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 6: be with you. This comes up because the Senate Judiciary Committee,

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Speaker 6: headed up by Chuck Grassley has put out information, this

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Speaker 6: information as we see it, this information from Grassley newly

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Speaker 6: declassified DOJ watchdog report shows FBI cut corners in the

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Speaker 6: Clinton email investigation. Remember that it was James Comey, who said,

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Speaker 6: what I can assure the American people is that this

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Speaker 6: investigation into Hillary Clinton's Homebrew server was done competently, honestly,

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Speaker 6: and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought

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Speaker 6: to bear, and this was supposed to put an end

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Speaker 6: to the entirety of the conversation. Remember, it is the

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Speaker 6: left contention that we should be thanking James Comy for

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Speaker 6: engaging an investigation to begin with, and that's what led

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Speaker 6: to Hillary Clinton's downfall, until, of course, they were able

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Speaker 6: to move the messages of the intelligence community out of

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Speaker 6: the Presidential Daily Brief and insert their own messages of Russia, Russia, Russia,

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Speaker 6: never mind the fever dreams of Hillary Clinton and working

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Speaker 6: with Perkins Coy the law firm, and others to create

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Speaker 6: the Steele dossier, etc. The report states that Comy's FBI

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Speaker 6: failed to fully investigate Hillary and Clinton's use of a

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Speaker 6: private email server and miss handling of highly classified information

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Speaker 6: during her time as Secretary of State. This is being

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Speaker 6: referred to We talked about the declassifying of the appendix. Well,

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Speaker 6: it's referred to as the Clinton Annex, and I've got

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Speaker 6: it like I'm staring at from Chuck Grassley's site Office

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Speaker 6: of the Inspector General US Department of Justice, a review

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Speaker 6: of various actions by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and

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Speaker 6: Department of Justice in advance of the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 6: Appendix one. It's thirty five pages, and you can go through,

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Speaker 6: and there are things redacted from it. For sure, there

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Speaker 6: are things that redacted. I don't mind certain levels of redaction.

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Speaker 6: But the story goes that the DOJ's Office of the

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Speaker 6: Inspector General Clinton annex shows the FBI obtained thumb drives

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Speaker 6: from a source during the Clinton administration Clinton investigation, but

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Speaker 6: then FBI Director James Comey, as well as then Deputy

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Speaker 6: FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI Special Agent Peter Strock,

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Speaker 6: you remember all the names and others, failed to perform

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Speaker 6: additional targeted searches of the drives, even though they contained

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Speaker 6: information relevant to the inquiry. The OIG report illustrates that

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Speaker 6: the FBI failed too thoroughly and completely investigate the Clinton

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Speaker 6: matter as a result, as well as the serious national

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Speaker 6: security risks created by Clinton's careless handling of highly classified information.

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Speaker 6: There were thumb drives. You didn't take a look. Why

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Speaker 6: not Why in the world would you allow this. This

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Speaker 6: has now been declassified because of Pam Bondi, the Attorney General.

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Speaker 6: Under Comey's leadership, says Chuck Grassley, the FBI failed to

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Speaker 6: perform fundamental investigative work and left key pieces of evidence

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Speaker 6: on the cutting room floor. Yes, is there any question? Well,

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Speaker 6: if there's a question, and you think that this is

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Speaker 6: political somehow, let me take you again to the wayback machine.

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Speaker 6: I go back to October six, seventeenth, twenty sixteen, little

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Speaker 6: more than a month before the election. FBI agents say

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Speaker 6: the Bureau is alarmed over Director James Comy urging the

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Speaker 6: Justice Department not to prosecute Hillary Clinton over her mishandling

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Speaker 6: of classified documents. According to an interview transcript given to

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Speaker 6: The Daily Caller provided by an intermediary who spoke to

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Speaker 6: two federal agents with the Bureau last Friday, agents are

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Speaker 6: frustrated by Comy's leadership. Here is the quote. This is

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Speaker 6: a textbook case where a grand jury should have convened

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Speaker 6: but was not. That is appalling. We talk about it

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Speaker 6: in the office and don't know how Komy can keep going.

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Speaker 6: This was reporting from Kerry Pickett twenty sixteen. Daily Caller

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Speaker 6: when she was with The Daily Caller and now with

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Speaker 6: the Washington Times as she is their White House reporter.

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Speaker 6: We spoke to her just last week the reporting. Then

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Speaker 6: we didn't search their house. We always search the house.

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Speaker 6: The search should not just have been for private electronics

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Speaker 6: which contain classified material, but even for printouts of such material.

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Speaker 6: There should have been a complete search of their residence.

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Speaker 6: That the FBI did not seize devices is unbelievable. The

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Speaker 6: FBI even sees the devices that have been set on fire.

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Speaker 6: Another special agent working for the bureau that were counter

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Speaker 6: terrorism said he's offended by Komi, saying, we and I've

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Speaker 6: been an investigator, how much more do we need to know,

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Speaker 6: need to see, need to look at? How much more

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Speaker 6: do we need to witness about these so called leaders

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Speaker 6: and the work they did to undercut you and me

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Speaker 6: at every single turn. I have said this numerous times.

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Speaker 6: Everything that you are witnessing, everything that you are seeing,

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Speaker 6: you think it's about Trump, or they think it's about Trump.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you got it well understood by now. Maybe some

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Speaker 6: people don't allow me. It was never, ever, ever, ever

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Speaker 6: about Trump, and it's always been about you. These are radical,

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Speaker 6: radical ideologues These are dangerous people who believe in you

645
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 6: not having a say, you not having a voice, you

646
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 6: not being allowed to have your voice heard. They will

647
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 6: move heaven and earth to ensure that your vote is mitigated,

648
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 6: your vote is pushed to the side, that you never

649
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 6: get the policies you want. And they'll do it with lies,

650
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 6: and they'll do it with deception, and they'll do it

651
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: with indictments, and they'll do it fraud, and they'll do

652
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 6: it with judge shopping. They'll do anything. Their people, Their

653
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 6: people always get a pass. Your people, Your people are

654
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 6: the most dangerous people on planet Earth. It's why your

655
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 6: parents are actually domestic terrorists. You want to actually pay

656
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 6: attention to what's going on at school board meeting, Only

657
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 6: a domestic terrorists would do that. Well, what about those

658
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: other parents, Those are the good parents. We've determined that

659
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: those are the good parents and they have rights, and

660
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 6: you're the bad parents, and you're lucky we allow you

661
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 6: to keep your knee caps. That's what this is. That's

662
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 6: what every part of this is. And we have known this.

663
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 6: It's twenty sixteen, its twee nine years, nine years. We

664
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 6: have known this to be the case. We have known

665
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 6: that these are the lowest of people, the liars and

666
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 6: the frauds. And now you see it. Now you see it,

667
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 6: You're you're aware of it. Now we know the depths

668
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 6: of how far these things go. And the only question

669
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Speaker 6: is what are we going to do about it? Now?

670
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 6: I have been making the argument that election day is

671
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 6: November third, twenty twenty six, and you got to vote.

672
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Speaker 6: I want to make sure that you understand my levels

673
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 6: of disgust.

674
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Speaker 13: What I want to do, Oh, what I want to do, Oh,

675
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 13: these low life scumbags, these are the worst human beings.

676
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 6: I didn't know you could be this duplicitous. I didn't

677
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 6: know you could be this evil. I didn't know you

678
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 6: could be this terrible. Yet there they are teaching us

679
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: exactly how awful one can be. What I want to do,

680
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 6: I don't condone it, I don't support it, I feel it.

681
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 6: But that's the difference between us and them, isn't it.

682
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 6: That's the difference between people who want to live in

683
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 6: a civil society at people who want the anarchy. That's

684
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 6: the difference between being rational and irrational. I once got

685
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: asked if there was a chance, if somebody had the

686
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 6: ability to save your kid and they wouldn't give you

687
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 6: that ability to save your kid. What would you do?

688
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 6: And the answer is I'd kill them? And people looked

689
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 6: at me like I had nine heads. And my question

690
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 6: out loud was how couldn't no one else have the

691
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 6: same response. Well, because that's not how you run a society,

692
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Speaker 6: I said, I wasn't talking about society. You asked me

693
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: about what I would do for my kid. You asked

694
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 6: me what I would do for my kid, and I

695
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 6: gave the honest answer. And these people refused to accept

696
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 6: that very very true nature of self. They somehow believe

697
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 6: that they were above it, or if some have been

698
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 6: so conditioned that they should never ever put themselves in

699
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 6: such a place that they couldn't even admit in the hypothetical.

700
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 6: And it's all hypothetical because who knows how people are

701
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Speaker 6: going to react once the bullet is fired. That's what

702
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 6: they say about battle plans, right. Battle plans mean nothing.

703
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 6: They go out the window once the first bullet is fired.

704
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 6: You never know how people are going to react. You

705
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 6: don't know how your army is going to be able

706
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 6: to move, You don't know if your plan is going

707
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 6: to be successful. Plans get morphed and changed. When you

708
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 6: see the blood, things do change. I don't know. I'd

709
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Speaker 6: like to believe that I would do anything for my kids,

710
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 6: and I mean it. Society would be right in holding

711
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Speaker 6: me accountable. I never once say that that shouldn't be

712
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Speaker 6: the case in this situation. I believe that the country

713
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 6: was put at risk by these people. I believe that

714
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Speaker 6: individuals will put at risk by these people. But I

715
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 6: would never condone and I would never support any harm

716
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 6: that doesn't come through the judicial system. Whether they should

717
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 6: be tried, they're innocent, will proven guilty, the facts shown,

718
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 6: and a decision made. That's how it has to happen

719
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Speaker 6: in a society that wants to thrive. Because if we

720
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Speaker 6: are a society and that says, let's just go about

721
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 6: doing damage to those we believe did us wrong, and

722
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 6: certainly we have proof of did us wrong, they'll do

723
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Speaker 6: the same. And that is not a society that thrives.

724
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Speaker 6: How I deal with my children, think about my children?

725
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Speaker 6: Now you think about your children? By the way, people

726
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 6: get shocked by that honest answer. I know you're with me,

727
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: I know you are for your kids. What would you

728
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 6: do right? That conversation is happing a billion times you

729
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 6: have to accept the fact that there are repercussions to actions,

730
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 6: and there have to be repercussions to the actions. The

731
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 6: repercussion just has to fall within the guidelines of the law.

732
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Speaker 6: But we don't end it there. We end it with

733
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Speaker 6: election day as November three, that's the midterms, and these

734
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 6: people have to lose so that the investigations can continue

735
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 6: and then prosecutions. Hillary Clinton is a terrible person and

736
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Speaker 6: a terrible example to women, and anybody who raised their

737
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Speaker 6: daughter to say to look at Hillary Clinton as a

738
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Speaker 6: role model raised their daughter in a terrible, awful way.

739
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Speaker 6: I don't care if she's a good grandma. I don't

740
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 6: want to hear a damn thing from Chelsea Clinton. Your

741
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 6: mother is awful. James co is not a good man.

742
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Speaker 6: I would never raise my sons to say look up

743
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Speaker 6: to James Comy. That's the kind of man you want

744
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 6: to be. James Comy is a weak beta, a guy

745
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 6: who lied, a guy who manipulated, and a guy who,

746
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 6: when caught doing something stupid like turning seashells into a

747
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 6: message about assassination of Donald Trump, said well is my

748
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 6: wife's idea? Haul good lord, That's that's what all women

749
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 6: dream of a guy who will sell them out the

750
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 6: minute the social media pressure gets to be a little

751
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 6: too hot. These aren't good people, They're terrible people, and

752
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: their reputations should take the hit, and history should be

753
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 6: very very unkind to them. Let us write the history books,

754
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 6: not them. Let us tell the truth, do not let

755
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 6: them whitewash it. And know the people who support them,

756
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 6: the people who have deeared themselves to them, the people

757
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: who want to protect them, the people who actually think

758
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 6: these people have legacy. Cannot be allowed to win elections.

759
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 6: And that's how it's done, never mind their own personal

760
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 6: animis and disgust and yes, outright anger. There is a

761
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 6: way these things are done. If you want to have

762
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 6: a country of any value at all, these people cannot

763
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Speaker 6: win an election. Ever. Election day is November third, twenty

764
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Speaker 6: twenty sixth. Make sure they lose. I'm Tony Katz. This

765
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 6: is Tony Katz today. Can I just play a little

766
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 6: bit more of Hunter Biden's interview? Who let this guy

767
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Speaker 6: do an interview? Then again, why didn't I think of

768
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 6: asking him for an interview? I didn't know it could

769
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: be this amazing. I had no idea he would so

770
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 6: much lose his mind. Now. The only thing I'm not

771
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 6: playing is Hunter explaining to people how to make crack

772
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Speaker 6: Tony Katz Tony Kats today good to be with you,

773
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Speaker 6: I won't do it. I won't have any part of

774
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Speaker 6: it whatsoever, because, like I know, if I play that,

775
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 6: I know, if I share that, man, I am going

776
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 6: to I am gonna get lambasted for it. Oh my god,

777
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 6: what a thing to share on the air. What kind

778
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 6: of person are you? No, No, let me share this instead

779
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 6: the whole Hunter talking about George Clooney.

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Speaker 11: Him, Kim, him and everybody around him. I don't have

781
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 11: to be nice Number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino,

782
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 11: and George Clooney is not an actor. He is a

783
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 11: like I don't know what he is. He's a brand

784
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Speaker 11: and by the way, and God bless him, you know what.

785
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Speaker 11: He fuzzily treats his friends really well, you know what

786
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Speaker 11: I mean, buys them things, and he's got a really

787
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 11: great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with

788
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Speaker 11: Barack Obama. You what do you have to do with anything?

789
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Speaker 11: Why do I have to listen to you? What right

790
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 11: do you have to step on a man who's given

791
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Speaker 11: fifty two years of his life to the service of

792
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 11: this country and decide that you, George Clooney, are going

793
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Speaker 11: to take.

794
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Speaker 4: Out basically a full page ad.

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Speaker 11: In the New York Times to me and James Carville,

796
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 11: who hasn't run a race in forty years, and David Axelrod,

797
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 11: who had one success in his political life in that Oh.

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Speaker 6: My god, By the way, do you know how hard

799
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 6: that editing was. I got carpal tunnel syndrome from doing

800
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 6: all that editing. Who holy mackerel, ain't that something? And

801
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 6: it just goes on and on and on and on.

802
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: Just take punch it at progressives, Bam Powell bing just

803
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 6: the anger, the vitriol, all every part of it. By

804
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 6: the way, anger and vitriol, classic Biden family trade.

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Speaker 11: That was Barack Obama. And that was because of Barack Obama,

806
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 11: not because of David Axelrod and David Pluff and all

807
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Speaker 11: of these guys in the Pod Save America guys who

808
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Speaker 11: were junior speech writers in you know, on Barack Obama's

809
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Speaker 11: Senate staff, who, by.

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Speaker 6: The way, the guys from Pod Save America all they're

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Speaker 6: they're not they're not taking this sitting down. No, they're

812
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 6: so angry the Brock Boys, Oh Tommy Vitor, that Beta

813
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 6: male and oh no no, I'm not a I'm not

814
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Speaker 6: a fan these guys. You've never met an Iranian nuclear deal.

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Speaker 6: They didn't like. They aren't coming right back at Hunter.

816
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Speaker 14: We're not talking about like whether a loved one can

817
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 14: live alone anymore. We're talking about running the country. What

818
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 14: are you talking about? What about the capacity to communicate

819
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Speaker 14: what you're going to do as president?

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Speaker 6: Also, like, just seeing this today, I guess what I wanted.

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Speaker 14: If I was in a room with him and able

822
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Speaker 14: to talk rationally, I would just be like, hey, man,

823
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Speaker 14: look around the world, look at what's happening in this

824
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Speaker 14: country right now. Like, I know you're angry personally, but

825
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 14: you're not the victim here. We're all living with what

826
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Speaker 14: happened in this election.

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Speaker 6: And you got to pardon You're fine. It's just brutal,

828
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 6: but it does tell a really interesting story about how

829
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 6: angry the Bidens are Nancy at Barrock at all these

830
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 6: people who they feel through them under the bus. And

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Speaker 6: then you did all this for Kamala Harris or really

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Speaker 6: not to even have a plan and you lost. So

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Speaker 6: I almost get the anger, And honestly, who doesn't love

834
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Speaker 6: a good cat fight. Huh huh. Right, this is Tony

835
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Speaker 6: Katz today. I was very happy to see President Trump

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Speaker 6: say we're pulling out of UNESCO. I've made the argument

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Speaker 6: before that while the United Nations was a unique effort,

838
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 6: maybe its time has come. If all we're going to

839
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Speaker 6: do is support despots and the worst of the worst,

840
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Speaker 6: doesn't seem like a valuable proposition for the United States

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Speaker 6: to be involved in, especially considering the money that we spend.

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 6: So I was happy to see President Trump say we're

844
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Speaker 6: pulling out of UNESCO. But what is it, what does

845
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Speaker 6: it mean, and what does it mean for the future.

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Speaker 6: Eugene Contorovich joins me right now, Senior research fellow at

847
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Speaker 6: the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at the Hair and

848
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Speaker 6: Its Foundation Heritage dot org. And you've written about this.

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Speaker 6: You were actually in the Wall Street Journal just a

850
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 6: couple of months ago making this argument utilizing a lot

851
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 6: of the same thoughts as what you're seeing now from

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00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 6: the President, especially after they did this research into UNESCO

853
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Speaker 6: and what they do. Let's start with what UNESCO does

854
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Speaker 6: and how it has morphed over the years.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, UNESCO was founded in nineteen forty six when America

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Speaker 15: first drawing, and it was supposed to promote culture, science

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Speaker 15: and education around the world, which is maybe an okay idea,

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Speaker 15: but it's not clear why you.

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Speaker 16: Need the United Nations skids to do that.

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Speaker 15: Since then, it has morphed into basically a general purpose

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Speaker 15: incubator progressive ideas from the world coagender ideology, climate change, DEI,

862
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Speaker 15: investigations of structural racism. Basically, instead of being a cultural

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Speaker 15: and scientific organization, they are trying to change culture.

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Speaker 6: The folks at UNESCO start off with one idea and

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Speaker 6: then of course it morphs into something that is purely

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Speaker 6: not only an anti American concept, but really an anti

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Speaker 6: Western concept. And one of the things that the Trump

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Speaker 6: people said was that while they were looking at a

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Speaker 6: probe on anti Semitism or anti Israel sentiment, what they

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Speaker 6: found was the issues regarding diversity, equity and inclusion policies,

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Speaker 6: as well as its pro Palestinian and pro China basis.

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the DEI, because you wrote about this

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Speaker 6: in the Wall Street Journal. What kind of things was

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Speaker 6: UNESCO doing.

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Speaker 15: They were pushing anti racism training and an anti racism

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Speaker 15: tool get the demands of governments and organizations undergo an

877
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Speaker 15: audit of racial equalities, which requires them to admit structural racism. Basically,

878
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Speaker 15: it's the straight you bringing candy the and that's what

879
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Speaker 15: they were pushing sort of throughout their educational plantsforms. I

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Speaker 15: remember they also teach educational curriculums, so they're also pushing

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Speaker 15: gender ideology LGBT gender curriculums. They had a program called

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Speaker 15: Transforming Men Talities Capital M then about fighting marchiouness in

883
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Speaker 15: video games Combatic. They're pushing against norms of masculinity. They're

884
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Speaker 15: trying to redo society using US tax fairmount and of

885
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Speaker 15: course the anti Israel bias is fundamental. They have determined

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Speaker 15: Jerusalem Jericho evon to the s Palistinian cities and have

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Speaker 15: been erasing Jewish and Christian links to the Holy Land.

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Speaker 6: Well, the anti semitism of the United Nations. Just taking

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Speaker 6: a look at UNRU, the United Nations Reliefs Works Agency

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Speaker 6: for Palestinian Refugees actually aiding in a betting in terrorist

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Speaker 6: attacks a law. October seventh, talking to Eugene Contorovich, senior

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Speaker 6: research fellow at the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, part

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Speaker 6: of the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org. I thought it

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Speaker 6: interesting that it discusses what I consider to be a

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Speaker 6: top line threat, not that I don't consider anti Semitism

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Speaker 6: to be a threat, regardless of whether or not I'm Jewish.

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Speaker 6: And that is the conversation about pro China. What was

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Speaker 6: UNESCO doing that was seen as pro China, which I

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Speaker 6: think was a way of saying anti Western civilization.

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Speaker 15: So the Chinese government of Chinese Communist Party had succeeded

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Speaker 15: in exerting ever greater influence on UNESCO, both in having

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Speaker 15: a sort of remarkable number of places in China designated

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Speaker 15: World World Heritage Sites and now there's second only to Italy,

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Speaker 15: and about the groups Italy getting Chinese bureaucrats in place,

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Speaker 15: to promoting AI regulatory frameworks that would be helpful to

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Speaker 15: the Chinese governments. And when a person from puts the

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Speaker 15: was in twenty seventeen, then President Biden rejoined saying we

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Speaker 15: need to be part of this organization to fight the

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Speaker 15: Chinese influence. But America being part has not helped fight

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Speaker 15: the Chinese influence at all. What's all because the US

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Speaker 15: diplomatic cord does not know how to be as aggressively

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Speaker 15: taking over international organizations with the Chinese. But more importantly,

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Speaker 15: the Chinese influence doesn't really matter if America is not

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Speaker 15: a member, because the organization is only worth taking over

915
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Speaker 15: when you have the world's greatest power as part of it.

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Speaker 15: Without without America as a member, you know what China

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Speaker 15: sort of gets is a lot less.

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Speaker 6: So so much of this it gets into the larger

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Speaker 6: conversation of Hey, I'm happy to see that we're defunding UNSCOM.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy to see that we're we're done giving money

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Speaker 6: as we should be to UNWRUNG. But the real question

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Speaker 6: here is why are we still a part of the

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Speaker 6: United Nations? And TOTO. Some ideas run their course. It

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Speaker 6: is my argument this one has run its course. Is

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Speaker 6: it your belief that the United States should be removing

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Speaker 6: itself from the United Nations as a whole?

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Speaker 15: I think nothing would be lost by quitting the United Agents,

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Speaker 15: But politically it is almost undoable because you know, like

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Speaker 15: the mafia which runs orphanages and Italian cultural festivals, the

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Speaker 15: UN also does some good things that create constituencies that

931
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Speaker 15: make it very hard to get out of. At the

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Speaker 15: same time, one can do a lot more work by

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Speaker 15: quitting particular UN agencies.

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Speaker 16: The President has already quit the World.

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Speaker 15: Both Organization in UNESCO. There's a lot more sort of

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Speaker 15: components of the UN that we can quit one by one,

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Speaker 15: such as the International Labor Organization, the International Migration organizations.

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Speaker 15: There's a whole list of those, and that's a good

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Speaker 15: way of sort of starting the process.

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Speaker 6: You have written though, going back to May of twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five, as you are writing about getting the US

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Speaker 6: out of if UNESCO, we should defund the United Nations.

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Speaker 6: Now I said get out of the United Nations. You argue,

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Speaker 6: there's still some good things that are done, and maybe

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Speaker 6: you want to see them at the table if you're

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Speaker 6: going to defund them. Are we making the same argument.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I didn't say that the good things are worth

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Speaker 15: for membership politically. I'm just saying that politically absolute quitting

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Speaker 15: is extremely difficult and we should definitely quit, you know,

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Speaker 15: components that we think with and other components that we

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Speaker 15: can't quit, we should defund and also encode my I

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Speaker 15: think is very important to encourage other for our allies

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Speaker 15: to quit them also, you know, to have as part

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Speaker 15: of our diplomacy. If you think of UN organization as

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Speaker 15: promoting harmful agendas. We need to not just be quitting,

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Speaker 15: but telling our allies that we want them to.

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Speaker 6: Quit before before I let you go. And I know

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Speaker 6: you're up against a timeline. We're going to hear from

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Speaker 6: the political left, how terrible this is, how awful this is,

960
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 6: look at how many people are going to be hurt

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Speaker 6: by this funding. How do you discuss with people countering

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Speaker 6: those progressive messages.

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Speaker 16: Well, I can prove that no one is really going

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Speaker 16: to notice the difference because the United States has actually

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Speaker 16: quit UNESCO before. It's wit under the some administration, and

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Speaker 16: it's quit under Reagan and was out for twenty years

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Speaker 16: from the nineteen eighties until the two thousands. Was there

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Speaker 16: less educational society and culture during that period? Can anyone

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Speaker 16: actually point to like something that the world was blacking?

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Speaker 15: No, you know, this is only of interest in narrow

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Speaker 15: bureaucrantic classes. Once we're out, nobody's inning going to remember

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Speaker 15: that we were in. And you know, we survived not

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Speaker 15: being in UNESCO for decades, and we can survive much more.

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Speaker 16: The question is, you know, if we have this organization that.

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Speaker 15: Is promoting hostile agendas and that is using its bureaucracy

976
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Speaker 15: to essentially undermine American values. One question we should ask

977
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Speaker 15: is couldn't we push to dismantle it further by encouraging

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Speaker 15: Allied states to with a graw as well.

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Speaker 6: Eugene Kntarevich, Senior Research Fellow, Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom

980
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Speaker 6: at the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org. I appreciate you

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Speaker 6: taking the time, sir, more to get to I'm Tony Katz.

982
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Speaker 6: This is Tony Katz. Today. Trump is saying to Harvard, sorry,

983
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 6: you get no more loot. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

984
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Speaker 6: good to be with you. I guess there's a theme

985
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 6: about people not getting money anymore. Unesco're not getting any

986
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Speaker 6: more money. And now it's Harvard again, the same rules apply.

987
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 6: The political left is going to tell you why this

988
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 6: is an attack on our institutions. It's an attack on education,

989
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 6: it's an attack on culture. Harvard is not special, never

990
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 6: has been special. No wait, hold on, maybe there was

991
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 6: a moment where it actually was special, where it was

992
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 6: truly the creme de la creme, where it was the

993
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 6: finest institution the world has ever seen. Whether that be

994
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 6: through fact or just through marketing. It was Harvard and

995
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 6: it mattered, and Supreme Court justices come from Harvard and

996
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 6: law firms and only hired from Harvard. Tony, you're talking

997
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 6: about the theme or the premise of the show suits. No, no, no, no,

998
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 6: I'm not because I don't mention Megan Markle. I'm saying

999
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 6: that this is true. There are places that have always

1000
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 6: been this way, but Harvard, over the last decades, plural

1001
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 6: has provided no value because getting into Harvard was the

1002
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 6: tough part. There was nothing tough about graduating from Harvard,

1003
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 6: and getting into Harvard was not based on an education,

1004
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 6: not based on skills. It was based on ideology and

1005
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 6: boxes checked. We know this because for decades they have

1006
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 6: been involved in telling Asian students, we've got enough of

1007
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 6: your kind. We need some of that look over there,

1008
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 6: not the mind, the look, the face. Maybe it's in

1009
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 6: the eyes. However, the bigots at Harvard saw it. Don't

1010
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 6: ask me to get into the mind of a bigot.

1011
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 6: I can't do it. They said to Asian students, you're

1012
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 6: not welcome here. We've got enough of you. Proving that

1013
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 6: the merit was inconsequential, Harvard then proved itself to be

1014
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 6: not only a bastard of anti Semitism, but proud of

1015
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 6: it and unwilling to stop it. It's okay if students

1016
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 6: get threatened, it's okay. If students get attacked, It's okay

1017
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 6: if this bigotry exists on the campus. Now, if you

1018
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 6: were to say something about someone who was black, they

1019
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 6: would throw you out so fast you're a head would spin.

1020
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Speaker 6: But you want to talk about them Jews. Notice that's

1021
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 6: spelled with nineteen o's. I don't know what they say

1022
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: because I had like a little bit of a country

1023
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 6: twying and I don't want to say it like that.

1024
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 6: They would probably say Jews, but still with the with

1025
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Speaker 6: the oh, that's fine. According to Claudine Gay, the former

1026
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 6: president bigot of Harvard and still of Harvard. So Harvard

1027
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 6: is suing the administration for a block on foreign student visas.

1028
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 6: They've got a preliminary injunction already in place. There should

1029
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 6: be no student visas in the United States. It's time

1030
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 6: to put an end to this now, specifically for students

1031
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 6: coming from the Chinese Communist Party. I'm not interested in

1032
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 6: educating these people. I'm not interested in the indoctrination of

1033
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 6: these people. I'm not interested in the propaganda they push forward.

1034
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Speaker 6: They shouldn't be allowed go get an education in China.

1035
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Speaker 6: You're not allowed to come here and to the universities

1036
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 6: who love the student visas because the students pay full

1037
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 6: freight and top dollar. You figure out another way to

1038
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 6: go get paid. Maybe, just maybe, you'll have to have

1039
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 6: other professors teaching more than one class three times a week,

1040
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 6: and you'll have to get rid of some bloats, just

1041
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 6: like the rest of the businesses in the United States.

1042
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 6: But you now have Harvard saying that they want restored

1043
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 6: two point six billion dollars in research that was cut

1044
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 6: by the Trump administration, and that was cut because the

1045
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 6: university has failed to protect students. We're not paying you

1046
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Speaker 6: for these things. We're not going to have it. Of course,

1047
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Speaker 6: this was the right move, and have asked why. It's

1048
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 6: because Harvard is not special. They are not important. I

1049
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 6: could right now drive down the streets of Tulsa or Memphis,

1050
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 6: or Saint Louis or Detroit or Baton Rouge or Indianapolis

1051
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 6: or Fort Wayne, you name the city. I could drive

1052
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 6: down the streets of Bloomington or Munsey in Indiana. I

1053
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 6: could drive through the streets of Peoria, the beautiful streets

1054
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 6: of Peoria, cool spot, and I could find you an

1055
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 6: unlimited number of people whose lives will not be affected

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Speaker 6: at all by whatever happens at Harvard. They don't know Harvard.

1057
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Speaker 6: They're not thinking about Harvard. They don't know anybody who

1058
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 6: went to Harvard. They don't know anybody who's graduating Harvard.

1059
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Speaker 6: They're not considering sending their kid to Harvard. They're not

1060
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 6: hiring anybody from Harvard. They don't care. Their lives are

1061
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 6: completely and totally unchanged. Well, you don't understand all the

1062
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 6: research that's going on here, the important research. That research

1063
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 6: can be done somewhere else. That research can be done

1064
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 6: in Oklahoma, that research can be done in Tennessee, that

1065
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 6: research can be done in Illinois, that research can be

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Speaker 6: done in Michigan. Nobody has to go to Massachusetts for

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Speaker 6: this research. No one, what a nonsense argument. Well, we're

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Speaker 6: the only lab that can know you're not. We're the

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Speaker 6: only people can know you're not. Someone will fill the void.

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Speaker 6: And when you engage the type of education that you do,

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Speaker 6: why would I trust your research anyway? I shouldn't think

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Speaker 6: that your research is biased to specific conclusions, because well,

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Speaker 6: everything else is biased at your university announce us to

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Speaker 6: trust the science. Tell me more as we learn about

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Speaker 6: the lawsuits against people like Michael Mann and others regarding climate,

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Speaker 6: the hockey stick graft and all that silliness. How much

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Speaker 6: data was manipulated in the world of climate in order

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Speaker 6: to try and prove the thesis that climate change was real, anthropogenic, etc.

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Speaker 6: Anthropogenic man made trust you? Should I trust the science

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Speaker 6: when I'm told we should stand six feet away from

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Speaker 6: each other because of COVID and that a mask has efficacy?

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Speaker 6: Or not? Should I trust the science when you told

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Speaker 6: Grandma she can't say goodbye to her husband of sixty

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Speaker 6: three years, who's dying alone wondering where his wife is. No, No,

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Speaker 6: I'm not about to trust these people. I don't think

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Speaker 6: they're the only ones who can decide, and I'm not

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Speaker 6: going to trust that their science is actually based on science.

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Speaker 6: The defunding is fined now, I'm not necessarily arguing against

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Speaker 6: funding and TOTO, although that's an interesting question. I think

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Speaker 6: we need to learn a little bit more about how

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Speaker 6: these things affect other things. What I am saying is

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Speaker 6: that the idea that only Harvard can do these things

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 6: is nonsense, and that Harvard has to have this money

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 6: is nonsense, and it's an attack on education is nonsense,

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01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 6: and it's an attack on free speech is nonsense. Tell

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Speaker 6: Harvard to have all the jew hating free speech they want.

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Speaker 6: They just can't have my tax money to do it,

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Speaker 6: nor yours. Good move from the president. More to get

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Speaker 6: to this is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Live from the Hartlaer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 6: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 17: Even maximum transparency, I think every single House Republican will

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Speaker 17: say the same thing. In fact, they've told me that

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Speaker 17: publicly and privately. They talk about this. We want maximum transparency.

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Speaker 17: We also understand the other part of that duty is

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Speaker 17: that we have to protect innocent victims. Okay, we have

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Speaker 17: to do both things at the same time. What do

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Speaker 17: we mean by that. Look involved in the Epstein evil Okay,

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Speaker 17: which is.

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Speaker 4: What it was.

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Speaker 6: Let's call it what it was.

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Speaker 17: There are innocent victims of those unspeakable sex crimes. Some

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Speaker 17: of them were miners, some of them were not. When

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Speaker 17: the Epstein records are turned over to the public, which

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Speaker 17: we must do as quickly as possible, we have to

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Speaker 17: also be very judicious and careful about protecting the innocent.

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Speaker 17: I think everybody in the country should understand the necessity

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Speaker 17: of that. It is the standard. I used to be

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Speaker 17: a litigator. It's the standard in the court of law

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Speaker 17: and the courts. It's the standard in law enforcement. Anyone

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Speaker 17: who served in law enforcement understands the necessity of that.

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Speaker 17: It is the standard with government agencies. We protect the innocence,

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Speaker 17: so we cannot be careless in an open release like that.

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Speaker 17: You have to be very careful. The President himself has

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Speaker 17: said that he wants maxim maximum transparency again, all credible

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Speaker 17: evidence to be turned over to the American public so

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Speaker 17: that everyone can make their own decisions.

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Speaker 6: We're owed dead. I agree with this, so get it done.

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 6: I know, still an Epstein conversation. But it's interesting. You

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01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 6: see the release of the MLK files, He's two hundred

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Speaker 6: and twenty thousand files. He saw the work from the

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Speaker 6: od N I the Director of National Intelligence regarding what

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Speaker 6: actually took place in Russia, Russia, Russia, and how the

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Speaker 6: Presidential Daily Brief was utilized as a political tool by

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Speaker 6: the intelligence community leadership Komi, Clapper, Brennan, Obama, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: To lie about President Trump and a connection to Russia,

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Speaker 6: the whole Russia russa Russia story. You're like, these two

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01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 6: things coming out MLK and this from the DNI. This

1140
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 6: must be cover for the Epstein stuff. See how transparent

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Speaker 6: we are, We see how which was all about the

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Speaker 6: transparency to NA. The one thing I will state as

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Speaker 6: clear as day is that anybody who thought that there

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Speaker 6: was an actual rift in quote unquote Magaville I referred

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Speaker 6: to as Magaville. But in Maga, we never understood what

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Speaker 6: was happening. And people who were screaming and yelling, oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh, you only care about this stuff because you

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01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 6: want to create content. You're not loyal Donald Trump. These

1149
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 6: people were dopey. They were playing the part of Bill Crystal,

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Speaker 6: thinking that they could decide for Trump supporters with the

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Speaker 6: American people what was important. They really believed in their

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Speaker 6: own power. Gross and they shouldn't be forgiven for it

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Speaker 6: as far as I'm concerned. But this was small stuff

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01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 6: in a greater scheme. We want the transparency, We want

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01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 6: to know what was going on. But the idea that this,

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01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 6: ever was somehow a schism in Maga was always just

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01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 6: super weird. It was a leftist talking point, not reality.

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Speaker 6: School choice is getting a big, big boost. I've got

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Speaker 6: that story coming up. Keep it here. This is Tony

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Speaker 6: Katz Today, So I guess you could call it a

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 6: private school quandary. It's really really interesting, and I know

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Speaker 6: that right now the Wall Street Journal is not on

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Speaker 6: everybody's favorite list. I get that. And for the record,

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Speaker 6: for clarity, I discussed this on Newsmax yesterday. The Wall

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 6: Street Journal screwed up massively with this letter they claim

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01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 6: is from President Trump, then Citizen Trump to Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 6: There's just no way. No one believes it, no one

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01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 6: buys it. Everybody thinks it's gratuitous. Everybody's like, this doesn't

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Speaker 6: pass the smell test. Because it doesn't. No one's allowed

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Speaker 6: to see the letter. What was the Wall Street Journal thinking,

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Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, good to be with you

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 6: find everything at tonykats dot com. Trump has said you're

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 6: out of the press school. And now there's a lawsuit

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Speaker 6: for ten billion dollars against the Wall Street Journal and

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Speaker 6: the owner of the Wall Street Journal, Rubert Murdoch, the

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Speaker 6: owner of Fox. So I've always viewed Trump's contention with

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Speaker 6: Fox to be like you know, and anything else. If

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Speaker 6: I don't get the response that I want, I consider

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Speaker 6: it bad. Right. That's who Trump is, and it's never

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Speaker 6: once moved me or bothered me. It's what he puts

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Speaker 6: out there. What's super weird is that people don't think

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Speaker 6: Trump could take a hit. I've always believed this. I've

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Speaker 6: seen this, I've heard him talk about it. I would

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Speaker 6: say the same thing to him. He doesn't mind tough.

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Speaker 6: He wants fair. Tough would be about, hey, you put

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01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 6: over this policy and here's what we've seen as a results.

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Speaker 6: We don't think this is good. Why not try this?

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01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 6: That'd be tough. It's certainly not fair to say. Here's

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Speaker 6: a letter that he wrote twenty three years ago to

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Speaker 6: Jeffrey Epstein and he was due naked women on it,

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Speaker 6: and it just proves how chummy he was with that pedophile.

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Speaker 6: That's that's insane. That is that's not journalism. That is everything.

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Speaker 6: But that is nonsense. And I don't know what the

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Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal was thinking. Why they were thinking it

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Speaker 6: this ten billion dollar defamation suit. Oh well, you figure

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Speaker 6: out what should the number be? Why can't have the

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Speaker 6: number be ten billion? Some people are like, oh, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: The number so high. I think it should have been

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Speaker 6: forty two billion. I don't think Trump's saman high enough.

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Speaker 6: You gotta make the madness stop. There are so many

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Speaker 6: ways to discuss actual issues without inventing total insanity. No

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Speaker 6: one believed the letter. You have to work for MSNBC

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01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,919
Speaker 6: to think that there's some letter written by Trump that's typed,

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Speaker 6: a typed letter to Jeffrey Epstein. You're out of your

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Speaker 6: mind if you think this stuff is legit or realize.

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Speaker 6: The Wall Street Journal here for a story that is

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Speaker 6: worthy of attention about federal tax credits and what Blue

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Speaker 6: states are going to do. So when you take a

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Speaker 6: look at the One Big Beautiful Bill, one of the

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Speaker 6: things that's in the One Big Beautiful Bill is a

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Speaker 6: tremendous boost to school choice, the school choice opportunities that

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Speaker 6: are grown from this where you have basically a subsidizing,

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Speaker 6: if you will, private school tuition. And this comes from

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Speaker 6: they've got a story going back to June of twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five. This is what allow them to direct tax

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Speaker 6: dollars to private school scholarships instead of the treasury. So

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Speaker 6: this for school choice advocates has been a joy. And

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Speaker 6: if you're somebody who believes in public schools over everything else,

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Speaker 6: in the indoctrination of children. You're infuriated because this gives

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Speaker 6: parents even more choice and levels of more affordability. Right,

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Speaker 6: these very very nice tax credits for donations. But in

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Speaker 6: order do you get access to the program, a governor

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Speaker 6: has to opt in. And all of a sudden you

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Speaker 6: say to yourself, well, why wouldn't they opt in? Oh

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Speaker 6: wait a minute. Yeah, if you are a blue state governor,

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Speaker 6: if you're a Tim Walls in Minnesota, if you're a

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Speaker 6: lujan In in New Mexico, Michelle Lujon Grisham is the

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Speaker 6: full name. If you're Newsome in California, what's your plan?

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Speaker 6: If you're Healey in Massachusetts? In Maryland, what are you

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Speaker 6: going to do? And by the way, keep an eye

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Speaker 6: on what wes Moore in Maryland does, because that guy

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Speaker 6: is a presidential front runner for the Democrats. If the

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Speaker 6: Democrats have any brain left in their very vapid skulls,

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Speaker 6: it's wes Moore. And whoever has to run against Wes

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Speaker 6: Moore is going to have a real fight on their hands.

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Speaker 6: Wes Moore is formidable and based on all accounts at

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Speaker 6: least as of right now, doesn't come across crazy comes

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Speaker 6: across as a democrat, and that is a problem. Keep

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Speaker 6: an eye out for it. What will these progressive governors do.

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Speaker 6: They are full believers only in public schooling. They want

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Speaker 6: to do away with any levels of private schooling. They

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Speaker 6: want to do away with not having to fund any

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Speaker 6: level of religious schooling. They oppose school choice on every level,

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Speaker 6: when school choice is so good for poorer families, and

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Speaker 6: of course, school choice is not about the kid. It

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Speaker 6: has never been about the kid. School choice is about

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Speaker 6: the parent doing what is best for their kid. And

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Speaker 6: what school choice does to facto is it states that

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Speaker 6: the parent is in charge. The parent matters, not the school.

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Speaker 6: The kid doesn't make the call. The parent makes the call.

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Speaker 6: And when the parent makes the call, we are saying

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Speaker 6: clearly that the parent is in charge. And what have

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Speaker 6: the schools been doing. The public school's been doing and

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Speaker 6: working on so desperately to ensure the parent has no say,

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Speaker 6: and when the parent tries to have a say, they

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Speaker 6: get labeled domestic terrorists. So school choice is a way

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Speaker 6: of reminding people, including the parent, that they make the call,

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Speaker 6: that they are the final authority. It's One of the

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Speaker 6: reasons that I so favor school choice is that it matters.

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Speaker 6: It's just with that statement, school choice sets the groundwork

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Speaker 6: for who is in charge and who matters, and that

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Speaker 6: matters incredibly. So now you take a look and what

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Speaker 6: these bluestate governors are gonna do. Here is this opportunity

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Speaker 6: that goes completely against their ideology. But it's funny, funny

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Speaker 6: thing about ideology. Oh, they'll say whatever they'll say, but

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Speaker 6: they'll do whatever they do. You mean, I can, I

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01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 6: can give the money here, I can get a tax

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Speaker 6: benefit for it, and my kid gets a better education

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Speaker 6: that's more aligned with my thoughts, wants and desires. Yes, please,

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Speaker 6: it goes with that question, right, yes, please immediate. Now,

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Speaker 6: some governor who's also getting donations from that person is

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Speaker 6: going to stand in the way. But you take a

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Speaker 6: look at the unions, whether it's the American Racial Teachers

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Speaker 6: or the NEA or a host of others, and they're

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Speaker 6: all going to be putting pressure on blue states not

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Speaker 6: to opt in.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 6: Someone made the argument that this is like Medicaid expansion

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Speaker 6: under Obamacare, and a bunch of red states rejected that,

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Speaker 6: and that this is going to be the blue state equivalent.

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Speaker 6: I would only argue that while that's a not the

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01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 6: worst analogous relationship I've ever seen, it's not exact because

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Speaker 6: Medicare medicaid is kind of hard to pin down in

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Speaker 6: all the things it provides or doesn't provide. Who gets what, plans,

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Speaker 6: et cetera. Education is education, and it is much more base.

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Speaker 6: Education is much more touchstone. Everybody knows what they mean.

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Speaker 6: My kid's good at math, I want them going to

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Speaker 6: a school that's going to help them excel in math.

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Speaker 6: My kid is good it dancing. I want them to

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Speaker 6: go to the school that helps them excel at dancing. Well,

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Speaker 6: you might not agree with what the parent is doing

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Speaker 6: regarding what the kid excels in, but recognize that there

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Speaker 6: are schools for the arts and schools for the sciences,

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Speaker 6: and schools for this and schools for that, And you

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Speaker 6: want your kid to be in a place where they

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Speaker 6: can excel it with this thing they have a proclivity for,

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Speaker 6: and help them build that and grow that and get

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Speaker 6: their education in that regard. That's I mean, that doesn't

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Speaker 6: matter who you are, It doesn't matter your socioeconomic status

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Speaker 6: of that one like you get that as a fundamental

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Speaker 6: I explained it in less than thirty seconds with I

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Speaker 6: think three sentences. Three sentences, that's all it took. So

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Speaker 6: that's why I look at this and say that while

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Speaker 6: it's close, no, no, education is much easier to understand.

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Speaker 6: Robert Enlow joins me right now. He's the president and

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Speaker 6: CEO of ed Choice ed choice dot org, which is

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01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 6: all about a school choice and I shared with you

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01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 6: the story out of the Wall Street Journal and how

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 6: these governors are going to play this with the one

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Speaker 6: big beautiful bill and the tax incentives that now exist

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Speaker 6: in giving these donations and going down this private school road.

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Speaker 6: You are, of course immersed in this world. What are

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Speaker 6: your thoughts on this legislation.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I said publicly that Congress took a

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01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 12: mighty swing at school choice and hit a single. So

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Speaker 12: it is a start. There's a lot of good things

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Speaker 12: about this bill, and there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 12: I think could be improved. The House version that originally

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 12: was introduced with significantly better than the end result. Here's

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Speaker 12: what we know. It is a permanent dollar for dollar

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Speaker 12: credit of seventeen one hundred dollars per individuals who contribute

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Speaker 12: to scholarship granting organizations that are approved of by the

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Speaker 12: IRS and on a list put together governors. That's a

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Speaker 12: good thing. It's a dollar for dollars seventeen hundd credit.

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Speaker 12: It's a permanent credit, and that people who can get

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Speaker 12: the scholarships very income level generous. So I mean it

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Speaker 12: is three hundred percent of the median income of your county,

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Speaker 12: which is great. I mean in Indiana that's around about

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Speaker 12: two hundred thousand dollars for every county in the state.

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Speaker 12: So it's a generous income level for people who can

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Speaker 12: receive the scholarships. So that's a good start, right. It's

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Speaker 12: a seventeen hundred dollars credit, it's a permanent credit with

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Speaker 12: no sunset, and the income level for the recipients is

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Speaker 12: fairly generous. Here's the challenging part. It's an opt in program,

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Speaker 12: which means that governors and states have to opt into

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Speaker 12: the program.

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Speaker 6: That means that.

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Speaker 12: It's going to be a challenge in blue state. Part

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Speaker 12: of the sales pitch for the federal tax credit program

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Speaker 12: with it'll be a national program that's well a national

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01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 12: effort and tax credit. It will allow all states, particularly

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Speaker 12: blue states, to participate. Now, that's going to be significally harder.

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Speaker 12: You know what, what is the incentive for blue states

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Speaker 12: to participate? I think there are some, but I think

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Speaker 12: it's going to be harder. Why would why would Davin

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Speaker 12: Newsom give into school choice when he has to sort

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01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 12: of play kate the unions? Why would governor whole Call

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Speaker 12: in New York do the same.

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Speaker 6: But isn't that making the argument, sir to interrupt talking

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01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:23,520
Speaker 6: to Robert Enlow of Choice dot Org, that these governors

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01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 6: and that ideology is an impediment to better education. So

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01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 6: isn't this in a way outing that as an issue?

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01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 6: Or are you saying I'd rather it was just blanket

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Speaker 6: so I didn't have to play the game and parents

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01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 6: could just have better options.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, look, we would rather be to every single state.

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Speaker 12: It's going to put some pressure on these governors, There's

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Speaker 12: no doubt about it, right, and we hope it will.

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Speaker 12: But here's also another reality of this bill. It's seventeen

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01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 12: hundred dollars. I've done the math for every million dollars,

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Speaker 12: it's going to require five eight hundred and eighty two

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Speaker 12: donors to get to a million dollars on contributions. For

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Speaker 12: every ten million dollars, that's fifty eight thousand right for

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01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 12: every you know, key, just adding up a number of

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Speaker 12: tax payers it's going to take to get to a

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Speaker 12: scholarship for a kid. It's going to take a lot

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Speaker 12: a lot of effort, particularly in states across the country,

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Speaker 12: because it's a it is a fundraising task. Now, look,

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 12: I think where the benefits are for these Blue states

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Speaker 12: is children and public schools can receive these funds for tutoring,

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Speaker 12: for transportation. You know, not every single public school district

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01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 12: in the state of end complains about issues like transportation.

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01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 12: They could try to get money from donors to help

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Speaker 12: ease that transportation issue and for kids in public school.

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Speaker 12: So that's great. There's a lot of opportunities. I do

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01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 12: think though, there's going to be a lot of challenges.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 12: One of the other things that is a challenge with

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Speaker 12: this is the eligible expenses are based on the Coverdale

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Speaker 12: K twelve Education Savings Account and that requiresians participants to

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Speaker 12: be an eligible school as defined by the state. That's great.

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Speaker 12: Governors will have the ability to create a list of

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Speaker 12: the scholarship granting organization, so I'll have some power over that,

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Speaker 12: and then the states will also have the power to

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Speaker 12: identify what is and is not a school. So there's

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Speaker 12: some potential here for some regulatory creep, which we always

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Speaker 12: worry about as well. But key point here it is

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Speaker 12: going to put pressure on Democrat governors and blue states

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Speaker 12: to deny families more choices when it's obvious that they

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Speaker 12: can give it to them.

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Speaker 6: Talking to Robert M President and CEO of Edschoyce dot org,

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Speaker 6: we have heard a bunch from this year from Randy

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Speaker 6: Weingart and the American Federation of Teachers. We've heard from

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Speaker 6: Rebecca Pringle from the NEA, a lot of streaming, a

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Speaker 6: lot of pushing for ideological things and not necessarily education things.

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Speaker 6: Where do you think the state of education is now

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Speaker 6: in regards to parents and eyes on the prize?

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Speaker 12: You know, here's the positive. You know, I look at

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01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 12: things both way positives. We have more choices than ever

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Speaker 12: before in America because of our work at Edge Choice.

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01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 12: There are now almost half of all American children can

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Speaker 12: receive a scholarship to go to private schools in this country.

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Speaker 12: That's almost half of every school, so that's a lot.

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01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 12: We've also seen about one point three million children currently

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Speaker 12: using these programs across the country, and that number is skyrocketing.

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Speaker 12: We're also seeing it's universal choice and the money is

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Speaker 12: going to the family, So we're seeing a lot of positives,

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01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 12: more choices, more opportunities. Now that hasn't yet translated into

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 12: the kind of robust results that we'd like to see

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01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 12: in terms of public schools yet, but we're beginning to

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01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 12: see that because we know that in these small timing

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01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 12: programs where school choice exists, public schools get better and

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Speaker 12: they get better faster. I can't wait to see what

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Speaker 12: happens when universal choice pauses public schools to have to

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01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 12: get better even faster. We don't have enough good education

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Speaker 12: right now. You know, you and I both know that

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01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 12: at forty percent of kids and I think in fourth

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01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 12: grade you can read on great level and only eighteen

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01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 12: percent of African American boys can read on great books.

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Speaker 12: That's unacceptable in America.

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Speaker 4: And we get to read some about it.

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Speaker 12: So the choice is definitely not getting in the way

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01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 12: of that effect.

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01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 4: You owned to helping you.

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Speaker 6: Robert Enlow, ed choice dot org, president's CEO of ed

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01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 6: choice dot org. Check it out for yourself. Robert, always

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01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 6: a pleasure. More coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is

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01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 6: Tony Katz today. I mean, those two things cannot be

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01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 6: true at the same time.

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Speaker 18: Well, you understand Christine home is giving a pathway for

1431
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 18: the illegals to become citizens or saying here's one thousand dollars,

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01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 18: deport yourself, come.

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Speaker 6: Back in the right way. But my husband had to

1434
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 6: do it. My husband had to wait.

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Speaker 18: We waited nine years for his green cards and he

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01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 18: just got naturalized last November. Right, So why we have

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01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 18: to wait in line? Why do these guys just plumb

1438
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 18: rush in and get all our benefits and take from

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01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 18: our blue cities. My big problem with Los Angeles is

1440
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 18: that you have local mayors there giving the heads up

1441
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 18: to your community saying, hey, there's an ice rag coming,

1442
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 18: you better leave and let's get the wires.

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01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 6: In, not detaining or abiding by the detail. I don't

1444
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 6: know who Angie Wong is. All I know is I

1445
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 6: want to be your friend, because that's the argument. And

1446
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 6: here at CNN, well not me, I'm not at CNN

1447
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 6: on the show with her. On CNN, You've got these

1448
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 6: white guys just lining up to be able to tell

1449
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 6: her why she is wrong and why they understand better

1450
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,839
Speaker 6: what it is immigrants need. And then somebody whose husband

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Speaker 6: had to wait nine years to be a citizen. Remember,

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01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 6: the white liberal person is the worst person. Usually it's

1453
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:54,799
Speaker 6: white liberal women, but white liberals are the worst. These

1454
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 6: are the people most desperate to destroy Western civilization and

1455
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 6: hate the country. They hate it, they hate it. And

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01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 6: here's somebody who is an immigrant. Here's somebody talking about

1457
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,799
Speaker 6: their husband who waited nine years to become a citizen.

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01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 6: She's also a Republican Executive committee woman in Miami Dade County.

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01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 6: She's telling this story, and they're gonna tell her, well,

1460
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 6: you don't understand, because liberals they always think they understand.

1461
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 6: My god, why won't she just let these white liberals

1462
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 6: save hers first of all? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 6: good to be with you. There is a comic in

1464
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 6: Los Angeles. I don't think she does stand up anymore.

1465
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 6: Her name is Sonya Schmidt. And we did tea party

1466
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 6: work back in the day, and a bunch of other

1467
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 6: work statuesque black woman. And she used to do a

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Speaker 6: line where she would be talking about how she would

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01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 6: be at these parties and she would admit that she

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Speaker 6: was a conservative, and they would look at her with

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Speaker 6: the stand and go hmm. After all we've done for you.

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Speaker 6: It's it's so great. I never got to ask her.

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01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 6: I should I got to find her. Oh, it's been

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01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 6: a long time. Whether that happened in real life, whether

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01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 6: or not that actually happened, or whether she just came

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01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 6: up with the line. I'm I'm willing to believe that

1477
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 6: it happened because look at how often it does. But

1478
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 6: why do we have to wait in line while others

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01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 6: bum rush in? That's the whole argument. That's the immigration story.

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Speaker 6: It is fantastic to hear her say it. Now we

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01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 6: are seeing that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is going to

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01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 6: be flooding New York with agents. This of course, after

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Speaker 6: you had a Border patrol agent shot who did nothing,

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01:34:54,720 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 6: didn't it was off duty and got robbed. He got

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Speaker 6: robbed and was shot in the face, and the army

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Speaker 6: and was carrying their firearm so they were able to

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Speaker 6: shoot back. But ICE agents are coming Trump administration vowing

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Speaker 6: to flood New York City with Immigrations and Customers and

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Speaker 6: sportsman agents to round up illegal immigrant criminals. After this

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Speaker 6: off duty officer was shot in the face. This was

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Speaker 6: a botch robbery attempt. The reporting from the Washington Times

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Speaker 6: so two people were indeed arrested, Christy Nome, Homeland Security Secretary,

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Speaker 6: saying one of them, Nunyez, shouldn't have been in the

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Speaker 6: country in the first place. He had a huge criminal record.

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Speaker 6: But of course when you're dealing with the Biden administration,

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Speaker 6: they'll allow absolutely anything, absolutely anything. As Tom Holman explained.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, both of them.

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Speaker 19: The shooter into this compress was driving both they both

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Speaker 19: entered during the Biden reministration. They're both were released. I'm

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Speaker 19: the only agnesis wasn't even bomb place on.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't the tension. They released them right away.

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Speaker 19: And as you said in in the last four years,

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Speaker 19: shaw unvetted, unvetted people released illegali amage released in the country,

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Speaker 19: weren't held more than a day.

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Speaker 4: And you know, and.

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Speaker 19: They've both been involved with criminal activity in Massachusetts and

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Speaker 19: New York. A rested in New York three times, and

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Speaker 19: not one time did NYPD reach out to Hezer respond

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01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 19: to our detainer, just reached back.

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Speaker 6: Industry, don't tell me there's no difference between the two

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01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 6: political parties because one party believes in getting rid of

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01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 6: illegal immigrants and another party believes in giving more of

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Speaker 6: your dollars to a legal immigrants. There's a difference. There's

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01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 6: a very very large difference in the parties. So this

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Speaker 6: flooding of the zone, as Tom Homan refers to it.

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Speaker 6: The only thing I don't know is whether or not

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Speaker 6: they mean we're going to add another fifty agents or

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01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 6: we're going to add another five thousand agents and we're

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01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 6: going to go through this like where Circe Lanister lay

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Speaker 6: in wildfire on the place. I don't have that answer.

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01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 6: I want that answer, and I want to hear that

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01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:19,919
Speaker 6: it's the latter. The guy who with a robbery attempt

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01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 6: was just sitting there, well, it was the out on

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01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 6: a date. I'm not even quite sure what was going on.

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01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 6: But this illegal immigrant with there's a legal immigrant friend

1526
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 6: who was on a moped. They just rolled up were like, okay,

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01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 6: let's rob these people. And again I will remind you

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01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 6: that the people who make the claim, you know, immigrants

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01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 6: commit crimes at lower rates than citizens. Three things here. First,

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01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,799
Speaker 6: we're talking about illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants. We're always

1531
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 6: talking about illegal immigrants, but the Left lies about the subject.

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01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 6: It always tries to conflate the two because they don't

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01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 6: want to have it honest conversation. They are frauds from

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Speaker 6: the word go. Secondly, of course American citizens would in

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01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 6: a percentage commit more crime they are more American citizens.

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01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 6: Then there would be illegal immigrants. This would only make

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01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 6: sense on the map, and we're talking about overall crime

1538
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 6: figures as opposed to statistics of within the group itself.

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01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 6: And then number three, if no illegal immigrants were allowed

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01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,839
Speaker 6: in the United States or were in the United States,

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01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 6: the total number of crimes committed by the illegal immigrant

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01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 6: would be zero. So what are we actually discussing. What

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01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:36,679
Speaker 6: we're discussing is progressive pablem, and we don't have time

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01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 6: for progressive pablem. We do have time to ensure that

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01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 6: the city are cities, any city, your city, our country,

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01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 6: your state is safe and secure to the best of

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01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 6: our ability. This is actually the argument that I think

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01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 6: needs to go forward every kitchen table, at every family reunion,

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01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 6: at every conversation, on every barstool. I accept because I

1550
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 6: am alive that I cannot make things be perfect. It

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01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 6: can't be done in cities around the country and around

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01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 6: the globe. They engage an idea something called the vision zero.

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01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 6: Have you ever heard of vision zero? Well, hold on

1554
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 6: to your hats. It's pretty insidious stuff. You see. I

1555
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:33,520
Speaker 6: think this was the Swedes that came up with this nonsense.

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01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 6: The commi Swedes, right, they're comedies everywhere. So these are

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01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 6: the commy Swedes. And the theory, the philosophy behind Vision

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Speaker 6: zero is to reduce car accidents to zero, meaning car

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01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 6: problems or car accidents involving pedestrians, bicyclists, etc. Bring those

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Speaker 6: down to zero. Now I ask you, how does that happen?

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01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 6: How do you bring the accident down to zero? Human

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01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 6: nature is a thing and sometimes bad things happen. So

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Speaker 6: I ask again, how do you bring it down to zero?

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01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 6: You bring it down to zero by not having cars

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01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 6: on the road. Isn't this what we have seen from

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01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 6: the environmentalist? What do you think road diets are? Have

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01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 6: you ever heard the term road diet? Well they bring

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01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 6: it down from two lanes to one lane. Well, they

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01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 6: put speed bumps in. Well they take away this opportunity.

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01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 6: Well they move you over here. Well they're going to

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01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 6: change traffic flows over there, all meant to make you

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Speaker 6: stop driving, which is of course their goal when it

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01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 6: comes to you having mobility. They are willing to move

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Speaker 6: heaven and earth to ensure that you don't. There was

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01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 6: never a moment that the environmentalist was more overjoyed than

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01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 6: during COVID. And you saw no people, for example, in

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Speaker 6: Los Angeles on the four h five, and they said,

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01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 6: this is amazing, this is fantastic. Look, no one's on

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01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 6: the roads. Maybe we can do this once a month

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01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 6: and really save the environment. Nobody was better off with

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01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,680
Speaker 6: a lack of mobility, Yet they are in favor of it.

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01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 6: Every single place you twist and you turn, they are

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01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 6: in favor of centralized planning for mobility that eliminates the

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01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 6: automobile and your ability to have actual freedom. You can

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01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 6: only go from their government designated point A to their

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01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 6: government designated point B. That is an obscene way to live.

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Speaker 6: And nobody, and I mean nobody, wants the bus. The

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01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 6: bus is a twentieth century solution to a twenty first

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01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 6: century problem. They want a car, or they want uber

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01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 6: this is what they want. Nobody wants the freaking bus.

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01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 6: I don't care because their ideology says to them, we

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01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 6: need to end cars being on the road. And what

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01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 6: will make the claim of is we can make the

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Speaker 6: death rates or the injury rate zero vision zero from

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01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:24,920
Speaker 6: a legal activity. Driving is a legal activity. Being able

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01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 6: to move about the country of which you are a

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01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 6: citizen is a legal activity, and that's what they want

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01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 6: to make illegal by claiming that it is immoral. And then,

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Speaker 6: of course we're just saving lives. We're doing this for

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Speaker 6: your safety, for your protection. While on that last line,

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01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 6: I would like to see the Trump administration pick up

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01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 6: that line. We are getting rid of illegal immigrants for

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01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 6: your safety, for your protection. We are here to protect you.

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01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 6: It's like when I'll talk about this the other day,

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01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 6: when the cop puts you in cuffs. You know, for

1606
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 6: your safety. It's not for my safety. Stop being silly.

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01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,520
Speaker 6: When you have to provide twenty seven pieces of information

1608
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 6: to buy pseudo fed you know, for your safety, for

1609
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 6: your safety in ours, provide an ID and blood work

1610
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 6: and urine sample. It's not for my safety. We all

1611
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 6: know this. But removing illegal immigrants is for your safety.

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01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:28,839
Speaker 6: So say it, we're removing illegal immigrants for your safety.

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01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 6: Steal their line. But if they believe that, if you

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01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 6: got cars off the road because they believe it, and

1615
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 6: you would bring accidents down to zero, isn't the same

1616
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 6: thing true about illegal immigrants. Well, there's no such thing

1617
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 6: as an illegal immigrant. No person is illegal. We have

1618
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 6: a legal activity, and you're telling me I can't do

1619
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 6: it anymore. You want me not to be able to

1620
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 6: do it anymore. You are willing to put an absolute

1621
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 6: clamp on the concept of mobility, unless, of course, that

1622
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 6: mobility means and even the country illegally, to which you

1623
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 6: are fine. First things First, there's a great reason why

1624
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 6: these people are not allowed to win another election. You

1625
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 6: cannot let these people win elections. These people are nuts.

1626
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 6: But secondly, we should be engaged in vision zero of

1627
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 6: illegal immigration. Can you get there? No, you can't get

1628
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 6: to zero. And by the way, these people who want

1629
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 6: the lack of cars, the only way they get there

1630
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 6: through the barrel of a gun. Through true authoritarianism. We

1631
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 6: get to the best we can through the utilization of legislation,

1632
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 6: of the recognition that we are a country. We do

1633
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 6: have borders. Borders should be protected and borders should be respected,

1634
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 6: and we should be listening to people like this woman

1635
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 6: from Miami. We should be listening to people like her,

1636
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 6: and we should be saying out loud, very clearly that

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01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 6: we want people coming into the country the right way,

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01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 6: like Angie Wong's husband, And we should be applauding that

1639
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 6: and supporting that, is saying that is the standard, and

1640
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 6: no deviation of the standard will do it. Is this

1641
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 6: everyone is like Angie Wong's husband, or it is nothing,

1642
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 6: thank you, because that's how we get as close as

1643
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:40,799
Speaker 6: possible to having no illegal immigrants engaging in any harm

1644
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 6: against any citizen who has worked hard to be here

1645
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 6: or was lucky enough to be born here and knows it.

1646
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. We have

1647
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 6: been discussing the situation of the Drus Druze in Syria.

1648
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 6: Tony kas Tony Katz today and the engagement from the

1649
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 6: Israelis to stop the onslaught against the Drus by the

1650
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 6: Bedouins and being helped out by parts of the Syrian military.

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01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 6: And Syria has been under this new leadership which I

1652
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 6: have certainly on paper little faith in, but they've been

1653
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 6: supportive of the United States. They cleared airspace for the

1654
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 6: Israelis to be able to go after the Iranians. Sanctions

1655
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:31,480
Speaker 6: have been lessened against Syria because there's this great opportunity

1656
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,400
Speaker 6: that seems to take place now after but charl Asad

1657
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 6: has been moved out, and then you see this. If

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01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 6: you haven't seen the video of these men, these drusmen,

1659
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 6: being marched quite literally to their execution, and you see

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01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 6: them shot and killed by these Islamists screaming a lu Akbar.

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01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 6: It's in a world of totally desensitizing video. It's brutal.

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01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 6: It's brutal, and yes, indeed, the Trump administration is going

1663
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 6: to have to make moves here because you would want

1664
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:13,719
Speaker 6: things to be better in Syria if this is what's happening,

1665
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 6: this is not better, And I don't know if they will,

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01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 6: I don't know. What I do know is that anywhere

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01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 6: Islamists are allowed to be in control, everybody else will

1668
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 6: be destroyed. Not only incompatible is the Islamist with Western civilization.

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01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the Islamist, but incompatible in non Western civilizations.

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Speaker 6: It's horrifying stuff, and more needs to be discussed about

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01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 6: the Druids and the plight of Christians as well in

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Speaker 6: any of these nations. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 6: everyone take care of it.