1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: I got a pleat ignorance on this really well, I 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: don't understand what people are what they're mad about. Like, 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: I know people are mad, but I don't get what 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: they're mad about. And I'm talking about this. It's American Eagle. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: It is is that right? American Eagle is a clothing manufacturer, 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: and they have this ad featuring Sidney Sweeney. Most people 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: probably know who she is. She's sort of the it 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: girl now in Hollywood. 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 2: She was an actress. She was in White Lotus and 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: also Euphoria Strong. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: There's never been a broad ripple ten but a strong 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: broad ripple nine three, nine point eight. I see what 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: you did there, very well assembled individual and she's the 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: model for these this uh, this American Eagle ad. Correct, 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: she's wearing some jeans. 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: She's wearing dunhamuxedo in one of the ads. 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Right, and it says Sidney Sweeney has nice genes j 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: E A n S. It's a play on jeens ge 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: n e s, which is like, hey, you got good genes, right, 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: like you are a good looking person. You got that 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: from somebody, right, And this is no different than ads 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: that have been run throughout all of humanity, whether it's 23 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford or paras Hilt eating the cheeseburger for the 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Hardys or whatever. And yet there are a group of 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: people that are so miserable in their own existence they 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: are up in arms over this. 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the ad Sidney Sweeney has great genes. It 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: sparked a lot of social media backlash, and the critics 29 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: are saying that it has racial or eugenic undertones. It 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: has what it's evoking the idea of racial purity and. 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: Right. 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: They're saying this is because Sweeney's blonde, she has blue 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: eye and she mentions that in the ad. Let's take 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: a listen to the Sidney Sweeney Goodjenes. 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: Ad jans are passed on from parents to offspring, often 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: determining traits like her color, personality, and even eye color. 37 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: My janes are blue, Sidney's Tweeney hasbury keenes. 38 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 6: That's the ad. 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, now I was one of them. There's multiple ads. 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 6: Sure, I will say this. 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Having to actually have a conversation with her probably would 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: be less painful if you just took a power drill 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: and shoved it between your eyes and hit go. But 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: that's not what the ad is about. The ad is 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: not listening the ad is looking and this is no different. 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, people like to look at good looking people. 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: That's the premise of being a spokesperson. You know, somebody, 48 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: you're either funny or you're good looking. They want eyeballs 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: to your thing, correct, which she is clearly accomplished. 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 6: She this is no different. 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, there have been pitch women throughout you know, 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: the last forty to fifty years of television, even you know, 53 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: magazines before that, and people like to look at good 54 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: looking people. She's very well assembled. 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 6: That's it. 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: That's the extent of the ad. And it just I mean, 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: I was Tony Kinnat was talking about this last night. 58 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I was out, I was out getting doing running some errands, 59 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: and I was listening and. 60 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 6: You hear these people that are just screaming about this. 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: And I know they're out there because I mean, we're 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: a country of whatever, three hundred and forty million people 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be some people with some serious screws loose. 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: But my goodness, of all the things to be enraged about. 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,559 Speaker 2: Gotta be mad about something. 66 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: That I was just like, this is the even by 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: today's Internet world standards, you're mad that some good looking 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: woman is the model for a clothing company. 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's he's a professor at Columbia University, and 70 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: he called it pro eugenic and said that they're gonna 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: use the ad in the Fall curriculum as an example 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: of harmful messaging. 73 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, So some woman can weigh three 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds, or if she's not white, or 75 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: if she's a mixture of three hundred and fifty pounds 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: in a white and if she's the spokesperson for something 77 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: that's beautiful and awesome. But some chick who's blonde and 78 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: white and his blue eyes, that's racist and eugenics. 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, did I miss something? 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: That's that's what they're saying. There says something I'm missing here, Casey, 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: You're missing the part that it seems like many times 82 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: the left just hates women. They hate women sports, and 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: now they're hating women jeans. I wonder if there would 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: be the outrage if she were a brunette, if she 85 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: had brown eyes. 86 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Is it just these people have such misery in their 87 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: own existence that they they won't allow anyone to find 88 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: happiness in theirs. Because when we get cut right down 89 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to it, I mean, because We're trying to like have 90 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: some sort of reasonable conversation about this, and you you can't. 91 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is so simple. It's been done throughout history. 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: Good looking woman, good looking man. There's a reason that 93 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: Andy Rooney wasn't the Calvin Klein guy, right, There's a 94 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: reason Danny DeVito does firehouse subs commercials, and you know 95 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: isn't a GQ spokesperson. You know, like people fit, different 96 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: people fit different things. People want to look at good 97 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: looking people to buy clothing, you know, perfume, all those 98 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: sorts of things. This is just basic marketing. She's very, 99 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: very popular to look at. Can you imagine having to 100 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: have a conversation with her though? Can you imagine could 101 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: you have a sustained ten minute conversation with her? Can 102 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: you play the audio of her again? I want you 103 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: to listen to this casey and tell me if you 104 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: think that you could have a sustained ten minute And keV, 105 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: I want you to ponder this because you are the 106 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: available one in this conversation. Could you if somebody said, Kevin, 107 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: you get to go on a date with Sidney Sweeney, 108 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: But in order to have that, you have to prove 109 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: you can have a ten minute sustained conversation with her. 110 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to this audio and then 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: tell me if you think you could pull it off. 112 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 4: Jans are passed on from parents to offspring, often determining 113 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: traits like her color, personality, and even eye color. 114 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: My jans are blue Sidney's tweeny Kaspbury Chens. 115 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: She sounds a little sleepy. No, Kevin, you're a little flirty. 116 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: You as a single man, you know the pot of 117 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: gold that's at the end of that rainbow as a 118 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: red blooded American male. But in order to get there, 119 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: you have to have a ten minute sustained back and 120 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: forth conversation with her. 121 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 6: Could you pull that off? 122 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 7: I think I could do ten minutes. 123 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 6: How would you do it? What would you play it again? 124 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 6: Play it again? 125 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: And you tell me how you're gonna pull off a 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: ten minute sustained conversation with that. 127 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: Jans are passed on from parents to offspring, often determining 128 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: traits like her color, personality, and even eye color. 129 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: My Janes are blue Sidney's tweety. 130 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Keen, You're gonna have a ten minute conversation sustain 131 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: conversation with a woman who couldn't even pronounce the word offspring. 132 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 6: She doesn't even say it right. And how many takes 133 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 6: do you think. 134 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: It took them to get through that over under seventy 135 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: three to get her to. 136 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 6: Do they show her actually saying the words or is 137 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 6: it narrowing It. 138 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: Kind of zooms in on her or it kind of 139 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: starts yeah, down below and then kind of goes up there. 140 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: Do they show her talking? Yeah, so she had to 141 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: actually do the thing. Yeah, she's looking in the case. 142 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: They couldn't splice it together or edit it. See, and 143 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: it works because he's seen it. He knows exactly how 144 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: they do the panorama. 145 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Did you see the one where she's with her Mustang 146 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: Apparently she's really into cars. 147 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: No, I see that one. 148 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one where she's working on her muscae. 149 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Well, they recreated the Transformer thing with Megan, not Megan Kelly. 150 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: She's the Megan Megan Fox, thank you, thank you, thank 151 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: you with that. But it's like, okay, so we can 152 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: laugh at her, right because she's utterly ridiculous, But she's 153 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: a very effective pitch person because nobody cares about how 154 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: she talks. 155 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: She does have a little bit of the vocal fry. 156 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, she knows a lot about genes and science, so 157 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: you can always talk about that. 158 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I. 159 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 6: Don't know what if you don't live in exemplary life. 160 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the greeting at the gates of 161 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: Hell sound like, but it's probably that on a loop 162 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the vocal Kevin, Okay, walk us through. You have to 163 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: have a sustained ten minute conversation with this woman. 164 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 6: How would you do it? What would you Where would 165 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 6: you even start? 166 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Kevin? 167 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: I mean I would ask her about her experience doing 168 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 3: this ad, and that's it. 169 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 6: You're gonna ask her about work. 170 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: Well, she probably likes to talk about herself, so you know. 171 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. So despite all the controversy, American Egle shares they 172 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: have risen twenty percent. That happened in just five days, 173 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: and the actual purpose of the campaign was to raise 174 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: awareness for domestic violence. A portion of the proceeds from 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: the limited edition genes that she's wearing are going to 176 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: benefit volunteer crisis text lines. So nobody is talking about 177 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: that at all. You'd think we're talking about this long 178 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: political manifesto. No, it's just a denimat We're talking about genes, 179 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: and people are rem all of the Haters Brooks Shields, 180 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: who is a strong supporter of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. 181 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: She did this ad for Calvin Klein in the eighties. 182 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 8: The secret of life lies hidden in the genetic code. 183 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 8: Genes are fundamental in determining the characteristics of an individual 184 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 8: and passing on these characteristics two succeeding generations. Occasionally, certain 185 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 8: conditions produce a structural change in the gene which will 186 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 8: bring about the process of evolution. This may occur in 187 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 8: one or more of the following ways. Firstly by selective mating, 188 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 8: in which a single gene type proof superior in transmitting 189 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 8: its genes to future generations. Secondly by gene drift, in 190 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 8: which certain genes may fade away while other genes persist, 191 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 8: and finally by natural selection, which filters out those genes 192 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 8: better equipped than others to endure in the environment. This 193 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 8: may result in the origin of an entirely new species, 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 8: which brings us to Calvins and the survival of the fittest. 195 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Calvin kleinb jeans it's the same man. Yeah, well, of 196 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: course it was rehashing the same thing. 197 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: It worked. 198 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: By the way, if you point it to Oklahoma on 199 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a map. Could Sydney Sweeney identify the state of Oklahoma? 200 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: I hope? 201 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 6: So no, no, no, I didn't ask you, do you hope? 202 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 6: So I think she could kept. 203 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: Could you be in a relationship with a girl who 204 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: could not identify the state of Oklahoma on a map? 205 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: Well, geography is very important for me, So I don't 206 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 3: think I think. 207 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: She could do. I think she could do Oklahoma. Maybe 208 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: some of the Northeastern states. Maybe not. 209 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 6: H this is all stupid. Let's go to break. 210 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: It's Kendally Casey on ninety three WIBC. 211 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So we get some breaking news here from our 212 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: news gathering partners at WISH TV. The Greenwood Fire Department 213 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: is currently responding to a plane crash. 214 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 6: It's very odd. 215 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: They report that the crashes at Main Street and Chic 216 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: Road not yet confirmed. If there are injuries or death 217 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: as a result of the crash. 218 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a developing story. 219 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: So we wanted to make our body aware of that. Again, 220 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: that's breaking these from our newsgathering partners at WISH TV, 221 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: andthing comes up definitive. As we're still in the air 222 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: here for the remainder of the hour, we will let 223 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: you know about that. 224 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: So do you want to talk about the privately funded 225 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: travel for our state representatives. 226 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting. You know, we started the show off 227 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 6: with this and. 228 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Indiana Capitol Chronicle did a big investigation into how much 229 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: money our US representatives. So these are our US House 230 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: of Representatives members from the state of Indiana have accepted 231 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: in terms of foreign travel, stays, meals, whatever. And it 232 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: is a staggering I mean, there we have nine representatives. 233 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: Now I got to check this again if this is 234 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: just the Republicans that they're listing, or if this is 235 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: all nine of them together. Either way, it's just I mean, 236 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: it's a members of Indiana's US House of Representatives delegation 237 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: and their staffers. So I guess that'd be everybody. All 238 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: nine of them have accepted roughly six hundred and forty 239 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in privately sponsored international travels since twenty twenty, 240 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: and Arnold, Senator for Investigative Journalism andalys travel disclosures. 241 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: Found spouse has traveled too. That portion alone added up 242 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: to two hundred and seventy four thousand dollars in total. 243 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: This includes domestic trips. Now that the number you threw out, 244 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: the six hundred and forty thousand. That was for international travel. 245 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Right now, if you include domestic trips, the price tag 246 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: goes up to seven hundred and sixty thousands. 247 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 6: Attack another one hundred and twenty k. 248 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: Now, it's just here. 249 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: Here's the question that I have long asked about the 250 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: international travel, especially at is. It is all of them, 251 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: because the Mervan's list on their carsons on there. So 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: it's they even go back Banks. Now now wait a second, now, 253 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: in clearness, in fairness, car they said Carson Shrieve because 254 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: he just got there Banks and Welllarski did not travel 255 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: internationally during the last five years, but sent staffers to 256 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,479 Speaker 1: some some Molliland, Gambia, where the hell is some Molliland 257 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: in Gambia, Mexico, Japan, and Israel. So those are the 258 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: ones that I guess they personally would be exempted from this. 259 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: Uh Mervan and Messer did not take or send staffers 260 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: on international travel, so they did list the ones who 261 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: did not. 262 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 6: So this includes. 263 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Baird, houch And Sparks, Yakam, Buchan, Marlin, that little backstabber, 264 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: and uh and and and their and their spouses in 265 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: this in this case, right, Okay, that's a staggering amount 266 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: of money. 267 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: It is. It's a huge amount of money. And when 268 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: you look at like Jim Baird, say, here, Rep, is. 269 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 7: He your Rep? 270 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, I mean I mean in name. 271 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: Well, well he's supposed to be representing you. 272 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 273 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: He took ten international trips, went to Italy, Kenya, Japan, Spain, 274 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: totaled over two hundred thousand dollars. 275 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the question I've always had because look, 276 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: the answer is these people just want to go places. 277 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: They want free. It's the griff. They want the free stuff. 278 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: That's the answer. But the question, if we were seeking 279 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: a logical answer, would be why does a US Rep. 280 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: Travel anywhere overseas? They don't have any authority. They're one 281 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: of four hundred and thirty five people. They're not the president. 282 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: They don't cut international deals, they're not the Speaker. 283 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 6: Of the House. 284 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: They're not, you know, the leader of the Senate. We 285 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: all know these guys just getting as we saw during 286 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: the big bullcrap bill, just by a bunch of them saying, 287 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: oh this bill stinks, it's awful and nobody's read it. 288 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 6: Oh it's BEU for it anyway, because we were told to. 289 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: They don't Jim Barrett has no ability to cut any 290 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: deals that I'm aware of. 291 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 6: He can't make something happen. And then, by the way, 292 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 6: what's going on? 293 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: What's so pressing going on in the UK, Japan, Australia, 294 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: South Africa, Columbia, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Like maybe maybe something 295 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: in Israel? Maybe, although even then, what are you going 296 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: to see? Yep, they're throwing bombs at each other. 297 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: M hmm. Well it's influence pedaling, at least that's what 298 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: it sounds like. So let me ask you. I know 299 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: you don't travel often. Maybe Kevin should answer this because 300 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: he's he's traveled all over the world. The most expensive 301 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: trip you've ever been. 302 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: On nine bucks driving Tork. 303 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to think of some of the more 304 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: expensive you know, Like. 305 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Because Kevin, you've you've you go for like weeks at 306 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: a time. When you go, you get your money's worth. 307 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: You're not just some guy that's going for the weekend. 308 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: You're you're there. 309 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: If you're in a foreign land, you're there for the 310 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: whole experience. 311 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it kind of depends on how far 312 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: away it is, too, Okay, I usually go for a 313 00:16:58,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. 314 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: What do you think just estimates. I asked Casey to 315 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: do earlier with her most expensive meal. What's the most 316 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: expensive I'm not I know you lived abroad for a 317 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: While'm not talking about that. 318 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 6: I'm just talking like a week or two weeks or whatever. 319 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Juggernaut, what's the most expensive trip you think you've ever 320 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: been on? 321 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 6: Just round up to the nearest. 322 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: Include the flight, Yeah, the whole thing, the whole deal, flight, hotel, meals. 323 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 324 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: I mean I feel like maybe thirty five hundred. 325 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, that's what I was thinking. I was a 326 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: chaperone on a middle school trip. It was like right 327 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: before the you know they go into high school. Sure, 328 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: and it was one of those trips and I had 329 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: to pay my own way for that, and it was 330 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: it was about thirty five hundred four thousands go, yeah, 331 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: London and around Italy. 332 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 6: Sure. 333 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: But I picture everything in foreign countries being upside down. 334 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 6: That's why I always picture it. I used to have dreams. 335 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: No ice in your drink in Italy? 336 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 7: What's that? 337 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: No ice in your beverages? 338 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: Kidding now, I used to have dreams where I would 339 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: end up in foreign countries and it was like a 340 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: bizarro world, you know how like in Super Mario. 341 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 6: There'd be upside down worlds and stuff. 342 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: And that's how I picture foreign countries, like everything is weird. 343 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: Well, they do drive on the other you're on. 344 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: Planet Earth, but you're not really unplanet Earth. That's how 345 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: I always picture going to a foreign country. 346 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 6: Is that not accurate? 347 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: No, that's not accurate. Not upside down a little different 348 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: in some instances. But so Kevin and I both saying 349 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna say thirty five hundred dollars probably the most 350 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: expensive trip. Larry Bouchan took a trip to Japan in 351 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: twenty four yep, and it got thirty five thousand dollars. 352 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: Now they'll come back and go, well, these are privately 353 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: paid for trips, which, on one hand, okay, at least 354 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: didn't cost me money. But then it comes back to 355 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: and this is the heart of the article that I 356 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: thought was sort of the most important part. They asked 357 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: one of these government watchdog people about this, and I'm 358 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: trying to find the direct quote in the article, and 359 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: it's evading me right now. But you can read the 360 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: article for yourself over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle. 361 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 6: Oh okay, here we go. 362 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: Don Fox, former Acting director and General Counsel of the 363 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: US Office of Government Ethics said, privately sponsored travel for representatives, 364 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: especially to luxurious destinations with their spouses, is designed to 365 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: buy access. 366 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: Quote. 367 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: Sponsors get access to lawmakers that you would not otherwise 368 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: get if you had to schedule an appointment in Washington, 369 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: d c Oh, you mean if someone paid for the 370 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: Indiana Secretary of State to go to India for ten days, 371 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: they'd have access to it. They didn't just do it 372 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: out of the goodness of their heart. They're not just 373 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: some well meaning merchant who is just blown away by 374 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: Diego's charm and charisma. 375 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 6: You mean that, don. 376 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: Yep. They say that this travel enhances foreign policy understanding 377 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: and oversight rules. 378 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: And at least with these it's disclosed what'd you pay for, 379 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: who paid for it, who went? Sure, we know who's 380 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: buying and selling our politicians in this case. All right, 381 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: So what's also interesting to me? In the to start 382 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: the show, I asked Casey, what's the most expensive meal 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: in your entire life you've ever had, like a one off, 384 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: we're going all out? 385 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 6: And you said, what three point fifty? 386 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like three hundred, okay, three hundred yea, 387 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: And that included the tip. 388 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a one time dinner, celebratory dinner 389 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: with your husband whatever. During her twenty twenty two trip 390 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: to Israel, represented Victoria's Spars and her husband stayed in 391 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: the five star David Citadel Hotel in Jerusalem and spent 392 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: an average of four hundred and eighty five dollars a day. See, 393 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: this isn't about like I just want to learn about 394 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: Israel or the conflict with the Hamas, or I want 395 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: to learn how to the Iron Dome. 396 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: I got to go to a Michelin rated restaurant too. 397 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is grand giose mind quisi. This is self. 398 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: Serving excess and grandios that regular people have no ability 399 00:20:59,960 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: to receive. Because why, as old Don Fox said, people 400 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: are buying your access. 401 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three 402 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 2: w ib C. 403 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 7: He's gonna be a long long time. 404 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 6: He should have played the William Shanner version or the 405 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 6: Stuie Griffin version. 406 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: Right, I'm a rocket man. 407 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 6: Seventies were bizarre, weren't they. You were there, I. 408 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: Was, You're right. I saw a clip yesterday. It was 409 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: like the Brady Bunch, but it was pasted. It wasn't 410 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: the show. It was when they were doing Variety Hours 411 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: and mister Brady was off in the corner. They were 412 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: doing the hustle oh with like the fake jam they 413 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: brought back, and Mike Reid was off the corner and 414 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: he was not really pleased to be doing the hustle 415 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: I have on the Variety Show. 416 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 6: I have a question. 417 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: And I get that people think that I just I'm 418 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: an antagonist or whatever, but I am genuinely very curious 419 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: about this, and you're the voice of reason, so I'm 420 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: going to put it to you. It's kind of a 421 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Casey show, by the way. I'm Rob That's Casey. Kevin 422 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: is here, our fabulous producer. I was told that we 423 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: had to raise taxes in the state of Indiana by 424 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: a billion dollars, correct, because we were super concerned about 425 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: the economy. 426 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 6: And the tariffs. 427 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: Right. 428 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: So the question that I asked from the beginning is, 429 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: and Jim Merritt backed me up on this, why don't 430 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: we just wait and then if the economy ends up 431 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: being so bad, why don't we call her by back 432 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: and then we can raise the taxes. Because you don't 433 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: even know how the economy is going to be no, no, no, 434 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: the economy's going to be so bad that the only 435 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: way for us to pay our bills is by raising 436 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: taxes by a billion dollars. 437 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 6: And then I want to read you so we all. 438 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: Agree that was said, right, I'd imagine that that's how 439 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: they funded the budget this year. Bra On, mister limited 440 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: government guy couldn't pay his bills. Mister I'm the business guy. 441 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: Nobody runs a business and this like me. Put me 442 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: in charge. I'll run the state like a business like 443 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: I wonder how many times mister Braun has just taken 444 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: a billion dollars from his clients, his customers if he 445 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: couldn't pay his bills. Here's the tweet that just came 446 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: out from the governor. And I have so many questions 447 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: about this big economic growth numbers out today across Indiana. 448 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: Hoosiers how have been paying more and getting less for years, 449 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: are optimistic about our economic future again. America Renewal is 450 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: just getting started. Yeah, but wait a second, you raise 451 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: taxes by a billion dollars, mister governor because you said 452 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: we can't pay our bills because the economy is so bad. 453 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: But then some of us like, look, we're just low 454 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: level radio broadcasters. But we said, well, but you don't 455 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: know the economy is going to be bad, you're guessing, 456 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: so why don't you not raise the taxes? And then 457 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: if the economy is as bad as your people are 458 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: now predicting, of course, you were two and a half 459 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: billion off in your last prediction. So, partners, if we're 460 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: not just gonna give you the benefit of out on 461 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: your suits saying you know, fortune telling abilities, then you 462 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,479 Speaker 1: call her by back and we'll raise the taxes. Why 463 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: don't we do that? No, No, no, I got to 464 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: raise the taxes. Well, if the economy's so good that 465 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: you just said it was great, and he just raised 466 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: the taxes because the economy is supposed to be so bad, 467 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: why aren't you immediately calling a special session to undo 468 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: the billion. 469 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 6: Dollars your kid? 470 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: Right, No, he's not going to do that, so he well, 471 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: well why wouldn't he. 472 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 6: Casey, he's not. Ron's as honest as the day is long? 473 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Oh is he? Okay? Well, I mean my government would 474 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: never lie to me. 475 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: He just had a big meeting with those those suckers 476 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: that think that meeting at his house that he's going 477 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: to do something great for him next year. They're meeting again, 478 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: by the way, are they what? 479 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: They have another meeting? 480 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: They had another meeting. They took the photo. Somebody post 481 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: the photo of them all together. He's conservatives. Remember, I 482 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: don't think our boy Jay was there this time, though 483 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I didn't see him in the photo, so I guess 484 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: we won't get to play any audio of him screaming. 485 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: So Braun has suckered these well meaning conservative activist people 486 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: into the big experience at his house. I don't know, 487 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's a once a month thing or something where 488 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: he's I mean, Braun is a is the plan? Well, 489 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Braun is a pathological liar, right, I mean, if you 490 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: look at one thousand people like he did at our 491 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: rally and lie to them, you're a pathological liar. If 492 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: that is not the definition of a pathological liar, what 493 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: would be. And he's already told Tony Katz and everybody 494 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: else that he's not going to be to anything because 495 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: that didn't mean anything, so symbolic. So these well meaning 496 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: conservative people and they're getting the full government. By the way, 497 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: why don't we get invited to the governor's mansion. Nobody 498 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: tried harder to help Braun last session with the property 499 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: taxes than us? Right, why don't we get invited? WHOA, 500 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: I have a theory on that. Would you like to 501 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: hear it? 502 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: I do too, You go, you go first. We may 503 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: have said some things that have set him. 504 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Oh, so it's not about actually telling people what's going on. 505 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 6: It's about as long as you'll carry my water. 506 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: And buy my bull craft and let me look you 507 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: right in the eye and lie to you. Then I'll 508 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: pretend to be your friend and like you. But the 509 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: moment you hold me to any account for my pathological, 510 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: sociopathic level of lying, well then I. 511 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: Just cut you out. 512 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna bring the bell back in the studio, 513 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: and every time you're right, I'm just gonna count how 514 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: many times it goes off. 515 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: So these people have gone again. We are almost to August. 516 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: So let's see August, September, October or day is November. 517 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 6: That's four months. 518 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: He couldn't get the property tax thing done in a 519 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: year and a half, and we're led to believe that 520 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: he has some monumental thing that he's gonna roll out 521 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: in four months. 522 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: It's a secret. 523 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 6: Just this guy. 524 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: His whole life is raising taxes and growing government. Now, 525 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: look Casey and I did everything we could to try 526 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: to force this guy, because he was going to be 527 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: the governor, to do everything could to help him to 528 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: correct that course of action and behavior. And with the 529 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: full freight and power and force of WIBC, including putting 530 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: one thousand people right in front of him, he still 531 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: did the thing he's always done, which has raised the 532 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: taxes in grown government. 533 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 6: Why do you eight or seven or nine or whatever amount. 534 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Of people it is, think that he was doing anything 535 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: other than using you. 536 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 6: Stop giving him a lifeline, stop meeting with him. 537 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: He hates you. 538 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: He just said we can't balance the budget without raising 539 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: taxes by a billion dollars because the economy is so bad. 540 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 6: And then he just know the economy's awesome. 541 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're optimistic about our economic future. 542 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: Again, that guy wouldn't know the truth if it smacked 543 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: him right between his delusional old eyes. 544 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, he's referencing the GDP report that came out that 545 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: said that it grew three percent in the second quarter. 546 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: US economy expanded a three percent annual rate. 547 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Okay, great, then repeal all the tax increases if we 548 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: had to raise taxes. Yeah, I mean, am I totally 549 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: out of bounds here by saying, because remember when he, 550 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: like I said, when he did the sucks. So they 551 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: don't even know what the economy is going to be. 552 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: The idea that you're going to raise taxes. 553 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: How could he possibly know what the economy is going 554 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: to be when every other day Donald Trump is changing 555 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: the tariff number bingos. So it's a statistical illusion with 556 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: a tariff shaped bow on top. 557 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 6: Right. 558 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: And so that comes back to he always wanted to 559 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: raise the taxes because what did he do as a 560 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: state rep? He raised taxes. What did he do as 561 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: a US Senator? He voted to print trillions of dollars, 562 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: which resulted in what are essentially massive tax increases on 563 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: the American public. The guy has the iq of a 564 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: snail and the creativity of a gnat, and he is dishonest. 565 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: One of the most dis blatantly dishonest and deceptive people 566 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: I have ever encountered in politics, which that's saying a lot, 567 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: because I've encountered a lot of scumbags. And the fact 568 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: that I feel so bad that these people did I 569 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: get it, like it all. Look at us were at 570 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: the governor's mansion. He probably offered us a diet coke. 571 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Remember when we asked him, this should have been the 572 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: colossal red flag, and in hindsight we we blew it. 573 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 6: Now, Remember when we asked him, what do you like 574 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 6: to drink? 575 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: And he was already ask him what brand of beer? 576 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 6: That's right? And he's like, I enjoy a Michelobel so often. 577 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: Wasn't that what he said? 578 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 6: Wasn't it Michelobel? 579 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: And now I think he said he drinks bourbon or 580 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: oh he said, And then he said, if I had 581 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: to have a beer, it would be a Mickel. Right. 582 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't like if I asked keV, keV, what's your right? 583 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: Now I can ask keV, what's your favorite brand of beer? 584 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: What do you like to crush on the weekends? 585 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: keV? I like, see the dude answered it. 586 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: He could have said Miller Light, bud Light even he 587 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: couldn't even said bud Light. 588 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 6: He could have said cors Light. He could have said 589 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 6: whatever Heineken rolling Rock. All right, Abdul is gonna join us. 590 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 6: Next we're gonna do one of our favorite pastimes. We're 591 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 6: gonna dump all over Diego Morales. We're going out strong. 592 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: It's Kennel and Casey on ninety three WYBC, and. 593 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 6: I think it's gone up. 594 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 5: With all the film list quashos never. 595 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 6: A secretary of state. One's the fights. We're more than 596 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 6: happy to give it to him. Kelly Casey show, I'm 597 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 6: Rob Casey there. Look who it is? 598 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: Author, broadcaster, Baracketeur, owner operator of Indie politics dot org, bike. 599 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 7: Shabaz, Hello friday're supposed to be in Michigan. 600 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 6: Okay. So you've been covering Diego for a long time, 601 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 6: very long time. 602 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: And you've covered some I don't know, it's sketchy the 603 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: right word, some sketchy politics. Interesting over the years, you 604 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: ever covered one like Diego Morales, the Indiana Secretary of State. 605 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 9: In my thirty something nine years of combined Indiana and 606 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 9: Illinois politics, I can just say this, Diego Morales is 607 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 9: one of a kind. 608 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: So let's start with because I think this was I 609 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think we got into it with 610 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: your segment last week. It's so hard to keep the 611 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: days with the track of the days with this guy. 612 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: It's like watching Netflix series that changes every episode. We 613 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: did not get into the motor Vehicle Advisory Board stuff 614 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: with you last week, right, So he goes heaving Diego Morales, 615 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, goes on this bizarre rant. We've talked 616 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: about it at length on our program at the Motor 617 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Vehicle Advisory Board about how WIBC, the fake WIBC, the 618 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: WIBC fake news, Indie Stars, fake news. You ever seen 619 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: an elected official go after the media like that in 620 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: a boring, rank and file government meeting that has. 621 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 6: Nothing to do with us or or the media in 622 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 6: any capacity. 623 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 7: No. 624 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 9: I mean the closest, as we talked about on stand 625 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 9: House happening this week with Jim Merritt, was the. 626 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 7: Doug Carter or the gun issue. 627 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 9: Doug kind of lost a little bit, but Doug was 628 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 9: speaking from passion, speaking out of control. And also Doug 629 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 9: wasn't under possible investigation either, and the walls weren't closing in. 630 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: He wasn't screaming about the media, right, He wasn't saying 631 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: WIBC the Indie Star fake news. I mean what fifteen 632 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: minutes like? He wasn't He wasn't doing. 633 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: That, was he? 634 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 7: No? And the thing was the here we go. 635 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 9: The louder people yell and scream, the more likely they 636 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 9: are guilty of whatever it is they're accused of doing. Yeah, 637 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 9: because instead as I say no, what, No, I didn't 638 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 9: do anything. My office is wide open. Here's everything. It's 639 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 9: kind of like Nick Roberts, the situation Nick Roberts, City 640 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 9: count the counsel acus of grouping a woman, say no, 641 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 9: it didn't happen. We went on to explain everything, fil 642 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 9: the police report, videos, the hole nine yards. That is 643 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 9: the sign of a person who is innocent or didn't 644 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 9: do what he's accused of doing. Diego Morales, it's a 645 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 9: whole different ball of wax. As a matter of fact, 646 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 9: he just gave me, mind I do if my block 647 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 9: post this week? So the profiles and here's how you 648 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 9: respond a crisis. Here's how you don't respond. 649 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is the thing, right, It all emanates 650 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: for us me out of this mysterious trip to India. 651 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: Not normal to leave in the middle of the legislative session. 652 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Not normalally for ten days, not normal. Not to come 653 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: clean on where you were going. Not normal, have to 654 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: find out about it on the internet. 655 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 6: Not normal for. 656 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: Secretary of State to take an economic development mission. Not 657 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: normal to bring a venture capital guy with you, not 658 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: the not normal to contract Raju has, which we'll get 659 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: to in a minute. 660 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 6: Not normal to not tell people who. 661 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: Paid for you to go like all of these things, 662 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: and I come back to the regular person needs to 663 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: care about this because even if they're like, oh, another 664 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: politician potentially being corrupt, color me shocked, Right, you need 665 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: to care about this because this guy has your info. 666 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: He's the head of elections and he's ahead of business 667 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: business licensure in the state of Indiana, right, I mean 668 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: that's what that's what he does. He has your personal 669 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: info of millions of people. It's a mega issue. He 670 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: just disappears to a foreign country with you don't know 671 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: who and doing. 672 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 6: You don't know what. 673 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 9: And even if you accept a certain amount of let's 674 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 9: see playing playing coloring the lines a little bit, as 675 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 9: we would say back home in Illinois, at the end 676 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 9: of the day, even if you don't have a problem 677 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 9: with that per se at the very least, like, well, dude, 678 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 9: you're messing this up for everybody else. 679 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 7: You gotta cut this crap out. 680 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: Well, And there's some people who have a theory that 681 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: that's why he that's why he went on that rant. 682 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's true or not. 683 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: Is that some of the people are who may have 684 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: helped him in the past or going, wait a second, 685 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: I ain't got this problem with anybody but you. 686 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 6: Why are you the problem? You better fix this. 687 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 9: And in the world of in the world of uh 688 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 9: of enlightened political corruption, there there are certain rules, and 689 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 9: I'm on the rule is, you know, do your stuff. 690 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 9: But as soon as you start getting outside the lines, 691 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 9: we're cutting out of the family. 692 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 7: And I believe that. 693 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 9: I believe that that's part of the reason why Diego 694 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 9: went on his rant and yelling and screaming like Ricky 695 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 9: Ricardo in the old episode of I Love Lucy. 696 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 7: Is what it sounded like to me. 697 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 9: And I'm sitting here like like really, like that tells 698 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 9: me that somebody you got, some got access to information, 699 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 9: you got subpoenut something, or somebody is looking for something 700 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 9: and it finally got to you and you started to crack. 701 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 9: And if I were Kegan, his chief of staff, I'm like, okay, 702 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 9: we need to pauses meeting for just a quick second. Here, 703 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 9: miss Morales, mister secretary, let's take you outside here to 704 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 9: have a drink of water. Calm down, deep breast, dude, 705 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 9: you're losing it. And by the way, this is all 706 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 9: on video, and by the way, this is preserved forever. 707 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. You, he keeps making it an issue. 708 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: That's what the crazy thing about all of this is, 709 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: I've tried to get out of this at least three times, 710 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: and he heaving Diego, keeps bringing it back up, keeps 711 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: making it an issue. And now as we saw in 712 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: the Star with the Briggs, I mean the Briggs column 713 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: was fabulous on the opinion piece about Diego, but also 714 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: this investigative report from Haley Colombo into Raju Shinthala. The 715 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: I know most people know this, but the whatever he's 716 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: a consultant or something for Diego's office. He has a 717 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: contract that nobody knows exactly what it is or what 718 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be doing. It's not clear, especially related 719 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: to the office. And then he's on this trip to 720 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: India and then he started that big exposit yesterday that 721 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: we talked about merit we talked about on the show 722 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: yesterday on Raju trying to figure out one what do 723 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: you do for eighty thousand dollars from tax pier money? 724 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: And two kind of a red flag that you're on 725 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: this trip and you're bragging about selling visa acxsis. It's 726 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: like the amateur SIXSS goes what is wrong with these people? 727 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 9: It is, as I jokingly say, at the end of 728 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 9: the day, you get the government you deserve. And Diego 729 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 9: won in a convention convened delegates. No, they were mad 730 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 9: at Eric Kolcomb over Holly Sullivan. I argue, they basically 731 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 9: politically cut off the noses by their faces. Because now 732 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 9: this is what you got. Now, I would say that 733 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 9: the good news for Diego, if there is good news, 734 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 9: is for the most part, this is still a predominantly 735 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 9: Central Indiana type story. Maybe a little bit of Fort Wayne, 736 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 9: a little bit Devonzville. But but things get to a 737 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 9: breaking point. And the breaking point is going to be 738 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 9: who do the Democrats run for secret state? You know, 739 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 9: possibly no a Bye, no goo By bo By may 740 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 9: may run, I'm hearing he may not run, but regardless, 741 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 9: and and by the way, it's also going to be 742 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 9: what twenty twenty six, which is a maternal election, which 743 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 9: is never really good for the party in power because 744 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 9: the district can only save you so much. So so 745 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 9: look at look at this, my friend. You've got Republicans 746 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 9: mad at Braun over property taxes and all all that stuff. 747 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 9: You've got the Mica people mad at Braun because of 748 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 9: the position on Michael beckwe you got this Diego Morales stuff. 749 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 9: The planets are starting to get in alignment for I won. 750 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 9: I won't necessarily the Democrats take back, say govern I 751 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 9: don't think that's going to happen, but those Republican majorities 752 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 9: in the House and Senate to start closing maybe a 753 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 9: little bit more than people think, Oh. 754 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 6: We'll get you here with this. Do you have a 755 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 6: theory on why no one? 756 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I do not understand how Braun, especially with 757 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Diego out there as spuriture trainer to usurp his authority 758 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: and totally embarrassing him, doesn't just finally say Okay, enough's 759 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: enough stretch. The state police conduct a full investigation, get 760 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: to the bottom of who paid for this trip, get 761 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: to the bottom of what this guy did over there. 762 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: Let's put this to bed, and if we got to 763 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: go from there, we'll go from there. But let's get 764 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: the public the transparency they're clearly clamoring for. 765 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 9: I would say, number one, Indiana has a history of 766 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 9: nobody really wanted to be first. I'm a firm believing 767 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 9: in that, and the more I thought about, the more 768 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 9: this makes absolute perfect sense. He goes if you go 769 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 9: back to the days of Charlie White and Charlie White's issues. 770 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 9: So Charlie White, for those who don't know, is the 771 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 9: Secretary of State who was a what was he a 772 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 9: Fisher's Town council member? He vote on the wrong place, 773 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 9: voted in a place he didn't live. No, no, allegedly 774 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 9: got convicted. 775 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: Well yeah, he ended up getting booted out office, I guess, 776 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. And he did he actually go 777 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: to prison. He was convicted of something I want to say, 778 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: got a house arrest I think. Okay, Well, anyway, so 779 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: he was given the he was given the bootski and 780 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: that's how Connie Lowson became a Secretary of State. 781 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, and the thing is, but but who was the 782 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 9: one who was Who's the one person who took the 783 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 9: lead and said, no, what, Charlie, you gotta go? And 784 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 9: that was Mitche Channels by the way, Miss Chanel's actually 785 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 9: gave Charlie the perfect exits plan, like, look, resign, we'll 786 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 9: find you a nice little, you know, job or whatever 787 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 9: and go on about your business. But Charlie was stubborn, 788 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 9: and charlieend up getting no x y Z. It's the 789 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 9: same thing with Diego. If I were Mike Braun, I'd 790 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 9: be like, look, Diego, here's what you need to do. Well, 791 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 9: we'll find you some little place with some We'll make 792 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 9: you like some some foreign embasket. We'll put you in 793 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 9: the high DC so you can travel all over the 794 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 9: world and be done with that and get and record 795 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 9: your Frequent Flyer miles. 796 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 7: But either you can either leave through the door or 797 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 7: through the window. 798 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: Find him over on indiepolitics dot org a do it 799 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: keeps your bas Thank you, thank you, and that'll do 800 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: for us today. Great job as always, Casey. Thank you 801 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: to Kevin, and most importantly, thank you to you. Without you, 802 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: there is no us. Kennel and Casey Show ninety three, WIBC.