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Speaker 2: That's not the case because there is a ton to

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Speaker 3: Depends on you know what all you do over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: So where I feel bad and the reason I'm saying

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Speaker 2: And why this is a really cool story, a really

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so the dichotomy of emotion that came with absorbing

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Speaker 2: And the goodwill that came for hours after that of

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Speaker 1: It was very very cool.

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Speaker 2: Now once that celebration was over with and I watched

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Speaker 1: Did you go? I did?

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Speaker 3: And with Shannon next to you, she was okay?

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Speaker 2: Now I'm watching that game and I know the pacers

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Speaker 2: Jaris Walker. This is not a team that has made

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Speaker 1: It is a.

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Speaker 2: Franchise that has continued to pull up its bootstraps and

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, Number one, what more can come

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Speaker 2: You're like, okay, really, but I watched on Saturday night

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Speaker 2: you watched of aj Debanza? I'm assuming I'm saying his

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Speaker 3: Debonsta or Debonsa the tea silent. I've watched a good amount.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you watch him and the sugar plum

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Speaker 1: Do they know? Oh yeah, they do, for sure? For sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm not certain now. I know that a lot of

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Speaker 2: From NBA executive standpoint, where do they see the biggest

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Speaker 1: Incredible, yeah it.

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Speaker 2: Is impossible to watch that and not, think holy, cow

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Speaker 1: Play there was the sad news Of Rondel, moore.

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Speaker 2: Don fisher is the guy that will be on the

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00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: radio call for that voice of The hoosiers each and Every.

438
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: Monday joins us other side Here Query company ninety three,

439
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: five one of seventy five to the.

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Speaker 1: Fan, Yes.

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00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Indiana And Northwestern tomorrow, night seven o'clock tip pregame will

442
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: be at six over on our sister station AT. WIBC

443
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: i THINK i Said Michigan state. Earlier that is produced week.

444
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: Ahead it Is northwestern next For indiana after their game

445
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: In Macki arena On friday. Evening joining us now on

446
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: The Java House Cold Brew coffee guest. Line Don fisher

447
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: is the voice of The Indiana, hoosiers And, Don i'm

448
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: going to begin with this only Because i'm.

449
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: Pretty certain that you know him fairly.

450
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: WELL i just told the story THAT i, KNOW i

451
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: mean very well from when we are days in college.

452
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: Together But Ryan carr now officially being named as the

453
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 2: executive director of basketball For Indiana University.

454
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: ATHLETICS i think it's.

455
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: A great story just BECAUSE i know AND i just

456
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: shared with Everyone ryan's journey of ending up In indiana

457
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: just because of his love of basketball and knowing that

458
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: that was the place where he could learn it. Best

459
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: so it's a great full circle. Moment BUT i assuming

460
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: that you know him on a personal level and you

461
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: obviously see the program as, WELL i wanted to begin

462
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: with just getting your thoughts On Ryan carr's hiring now

463
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: as the executive director of basketball For Indiana.

464
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 5: University, Well I'm i'm excited For. Ryan i've Known ryan

465
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 5: for many, years obviously a manager down AT iu back

466
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 5: in the day Under Coach, knight and a young man

467
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: THAT i think has really done a tremendous job in

468
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 5: almost every position he's ever. Had he's just he's. One

469
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 5: first of, all he's a wonderful person and had got

470
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 5: a great, family and then on top of, that he's

471
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 5: very much a professional AND i think he'll fill that

472
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 5: position extremely. Well i'm not sure exactly what all his

473
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: duties will be in that. Context i'm sure he's had

474
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 5: that explained to, him BUT i have not talked to

475
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 5: him just. YET i will at some point here in

476
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 5: the next day or. So but there's no Question i'm

477
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: excited for. Him i'm excited For Indiana. UNIVERSITY i haven't.

478
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: You know the one, Thing, don and you touched on it.

479
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: There you, know it's funny because when you say you're

480
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: not sure of the, role you, KNOW i think that

481
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: would be the case for all of, us because this

482
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: is the new era of college, basketball, RIGHT i, mean

483
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: this is a role that's basically being created everywhere on the.

484
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: Fly but AND i wanted YOU i think you'll agree

485
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: with me. Here Knowing, ryan one of the things THAT

486
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: i Think indiana fans should be comforted by or take note,

487
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 2: of and that is this is a guy going all

488
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: the way back to when we were in. College Don

489
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about morals and scruples and

490
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: work ethic of making sure that you're simply getting base

491
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: hits every day and not constantly swinging the shortcut route

492
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: for the home. Run that Defines Ryan. Carr this is,

493
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: somebody at least in the foundation of what he represents

494
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: is this is about daily task and. Principle and that's

495
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: the thing to me that is the most, encouraging no.

496
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: Question And i'll tell you on top of, that he

497
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 5: Loves Indiana university and he wants this university to be

498
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: where it once was from a basketball, perspective because they

499
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: are where they need to be from a football, perspectives

500
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 5: as we all. KNOW i think it's a great. HIRE

501
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 5: i Think Scott, DOLSON i think the staff down there

502
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: has done a tremendous job in that. Regard they've gotten

503
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: the right people in the right, spots AND i Think

504
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: ryan is just another really good piece to that.

505
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Puzzle that game On friday night in Macki don was

506
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: one of those that you could look at it and

507
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: we will get, into you, know Where indiana needs to.

508
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Improve but it also was one of those nights where

509
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: just everything seemingly kind of went the way For purdue as,

510
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: well like every ball bounced their. WAY i, mean when

511
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: you start hitting shots from darn near the, logo you

512
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: know things are going. Well but when you look At,

513
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: indiana let's begin with, that the area that perhaps they

514
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: did not execute to the form or fashion that you

515
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: thought they would better try to attack Against purdue was.

516
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: WHAT i did not think that the. OFFENSE i just

517
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: don't think that the offense clicked in any, way shape

518
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 5: or form in that. Ballgame generally, speaking you could say

519
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 5: that Obviously Lamar wilkerson is the guy that seems to

520
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 5: come through in every, ballgame but he didn't do anything

521
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 5: in the first half, either much like his. Teammates in,

522
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: Fact tucker De, BREEZE i, think did knock down a

523
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 5: couple of threes early in the, ballgame AND i don't

524
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: know why he didn't get more shots in that. Contest

525
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: but at the same, TIME i look at it this,

526
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: Way indiana is a flawed, team just like every team

527
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: has some areas of, flawnis so to. Speak but This

528
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 5: indiana basketball team has one or two that are, critical

529
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 5: and those in my, mind primarily revolve around rebounding and

530
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 5: the physicality needed in the post. Position And Sam alexis

531
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 5: does his absolute best to fill that. Void But Reed

532
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 5: bailey is one of those guys that's really kind of

533
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 5: a almost like a, four a stretch four that type of,

534
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: thing or not even a stretch. For he would be

535
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 5: a truth for if he was actually playing with another.

536
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 5: Team BUT i just don't Think indiana has the physical

537
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 5: stature and size that they need right. Now and that's

538
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: just because you had to go out and get thirteen

539
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 5: new players on the roster from different schools and so

540
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 5: on and so, forth and you just can't fill every

541
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 5: one of those spots of need with a brand new

542
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 5: roster of players in generally, speaking AND i think that's

543
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 5: pretty much the case all over the. Country you're going

544
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 5: to get three or four guys that are really key

545
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 5: for your basketball, team and then you need to supplant

546
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: the rest of that roster with guys that fill, voids

547
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: so to. Speak AND i don't think in this particular

548
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: case that was one of the things that you could

549
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 5: get done because of how many spots were to be.

550
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 5: Filled so ALL i look at right now is where

551
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 5: they are, limited and where they are limited at this

552
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: point is physicality and stature of. Size that makes a big,

553
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 5: difference especially when you're talking about The Big, ten because

554
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: everybody's got those players for the most. Part the teams that,

555
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 5: don't they're not going.

556
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Anywhere don we obviously saw a.

557
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: Stretch Don fisher is my Guest Java, House Cold Brew

558
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: coffee guest. Line we saw a stretch Where Nick norn

559
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: was really good and got super you, KNOW i was, Thinking,

560
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: okay here we. Go this is the third score with

561
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: consistency that they. Need And Sam alexis has been a

562
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: guy that can give you some points as, well but

563
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: from the, outside and Then dorn just at the time

564
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: that we started to have that epiphany of how great

565
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: this was coming off the. Injury he now has gone

566
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: into a real shooting slump. Here is this simply a

567
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: confidence issue of a, shooter or Is indiana not getting

568
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: him in the offensive positioning that they were able to

569
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 2: get him in. Before maybe defenses were honing more on.

570
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: Him, WELL i do think that the scouting report on

571
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: him is, out and there's no question that defenses are

572
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 5: paying a lot more attention to him now than they were.

573
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: Earlier and as you, Know Connor enwright's not known as a.

574
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 5: SCORE i, mean it's not like he can't knock down

575
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: a shot or. Two he only took two shots in

576
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: that game we Can'st, purdue and one was a three

577
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 5: and he made. It And connors a guy that just

578
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: doesn't look for his shot because he believes that his

579
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 5: best asset is finding the guy that's open for the.

580
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: Shot and that's what a point guard, does or most

581
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 5: point guards. Do they are responsible for getting the ball

582
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: where it needs to. Go that being, said they don't

583
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: Guard connor like they do other, people and every once

584
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 5: in a while they leave him wide open and he'll

585
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: knock down a shot as he did in That purdue.

586
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 5: Game the other thing That indiana is not getting right

587
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 5: now is a great amount of. EFFORT i shouldn't say.

588
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 5: Effort they're not getting a lot of help from the.

589
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 5: Bench the guys are not playing quite to the level

590
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: of which we had expectations at this. Juncture BUT i

591
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: do think That Nick dorn in the starting lineup was

592
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: a big factor for a long. Time right now he's

593
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 5: in a little of a. Slump he's definitely having a

594
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 5: problem knocking down. Shots he hasn't hit a three point

595
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: shot in the last two ball games he's, played and

596
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 5: he's taken a, few just two in the game Against,

597
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 5: purdue but Against, ILLINOIS i think he was zero for

598
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: four in that. Ballgame so right, NOW i think it's

599
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: a confidence factor For, nick AND i think that this

600
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: guy is capable of knocking down shots against anybody who

601
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: plays against if he's got that confidence, roaring so to,

602
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: speak and right now it's not. Rowing it's kind of

603
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: limited to at.

604
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: Best are you surprised we have not seen more of

605
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: late Of Trent.

606
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: SISLEY i Guess i'd say THAT i would be, surprised

607
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 5: But i'm not. SURPRISED i think, freshman it takes a.

608
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 5: While he looked really good in the early parts of

609
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 5: the season when they were playing the lesser teams and

610
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: there wasn't a scouting report on, him and he was

611
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: able to knock down. Shots at that point in, TIME i,

612
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: thought maybe he becomes the third guy before we ever

613
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 5: Saw nick in, action Because nick was hurt so much

614
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 5: of this. Season BUT i thought maybe That trent would

615
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 5: be that. Guy but right, NOW i think he's struggling

616
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: with his confidence level a little, bit AND i think

617
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 5: part of that is due to the fact that he's

618
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: not getting as much playing time at this juncture as

619
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: all coaches seem to. Do at this point in the,

620
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: season they're playing a seven and eight man rotation and

621
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 5: he's gotten never not getting the minutes that he used to.

622
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: Get SO i think there's always a freshman wall you worry, about,

623
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: too especially if the young man is struggling at this

624
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: point in the. Season so all of THOSE i think

625
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 5: coming to play from a thinking process doesn't mean But

626
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 5: i'm the most knowledgeable guy in the world that would

627
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 5: be able to figure that out for. You BUT i

628
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: could say THAT i just don't see him playing with

629
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: the same confidence level THAT i saw him early in

630
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 5: the season.

631
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Done this this point might be like kind of on

632
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: a curve with this roster because we were so unfamiliar

633
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: with the unique circumstances with which under Which Darren deries

634
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: had to put this team, together, Right So i'm giving

635
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: him a little bit of a of a learning or you,

636
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: know a grading curve. There but how is this team

637
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: different other than just we're more familiar with, them but

638
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 2: even with a team That darren De brees was learning

639
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: almost like we were as the season was going, on

640
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: when you look at, it AND i do think they're

641
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: a tournament. TEAM i Think indiana's going to go to the.

642
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i think that's what you would want out of

643
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: year one of a. Coach but how are they different

644
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: than they were at the beginning of the year just

645
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: in terms of the way that they play or maybe

646
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: an area where you have seen, him.

647
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 5: WELL i think the biggest thing that this team has

648
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: had going for them this year is there two, things

649
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 5: really their ability to play together as a team and

650
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 5: their ability to shoot the. Basketball those are the two

651
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 5: things THAT i think this team was basically built, on

652
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: and they have played as a, team AND i mean this.

653
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 5: SINCERELY i think this is the most unselfish bunch of

654
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: Guys i've seen in a long. Time they've looked for

655
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 5: the next. Pass they always are looking for the next

656
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 5: pass and the best pass from the standpoint of who

657
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 5: they're throwing it. TO i give them a tremendous amount

658
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 5: of credit for. THAT i just don't think that they

659
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 5: are clicking right now like they did earlier in the.

660
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 5: SEASON I i'm not sure if that's personnel issues of some.

661
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 5: KIND i don't know that that's a, fact BECAUSE i

662
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 5: still think they've seem to play together in most, ballgames

663
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 5: but they've been taking advantage of here in the last two.

664
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 5: CONTESTS i think because they have not just been as

665
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 5: big and as physical as those two teams they've played most,

666
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 5: Recently illinois And. Purdue And purdue played you know that

667
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: they were going to be ready in that, building as

668
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 5: they always are when they go To. Mackie that team

669
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: plays their heads off in that. Context And INDIANA i

670
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 5: think got into a situation where they went into this ball,

671
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 5: game got off to a poor start, early and got

672
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: into foul foul trouble, early AND i think those played

673
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: a big factor in Wy indiana wasn't able to come

674
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 5: back a little bit better than they did in that second.

675
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Half DON i know your level of.

676
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: Patriotism i'm curious after the hockey game, yesterday did it

677
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: take you longer to get the red or the blue

678
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: paint off your?

679
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: Face trust, ME i don't put red or blue on my,

680
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: face BUT i can tell you. THIS i had tears

681
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 5: running down my cheeks when they won that thing because

682
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: it was so.

683
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: Cool it was pretty.

684
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: ALL i, mean it was, awesome, right and the fact,

685
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: listen it was it was white knuckle there, too. RIGHT

686
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: i mean it felt like they were just under THE i,

687
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: Mean canada was aggressive there in that third period and

688
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: it was just you're holding on for dear. Life and

689
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: then the way they won it was pretty awesome and the.

690
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: CELEBRATION i think the thing that was awesome about it

691
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: was those are professional players that get paid lots of

692
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: money to play hockey, now but they had the same

693
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: level of exuberance that we saw out of the nineteen

694
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: eighty team when they won, it and just THE i

695
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: think they understood what it meant to wear that jersey

696
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 2: and wave that, flag and that's what was cool about.

697
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: It that's exactly. Right the emotion of that particular win

698
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: yesterday was what you saw in nineteen. EIGHTY i, mean

699
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 5: hockey had won of the in The Winter olympics since

700
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 5: what nineteen, Eighty.

701
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah that's, right that was the last.

702
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: One, yeah, yeah forty plus years without a. Win and

703
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: those guys were out there and they were playing their butts,

704
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: off and they looked in the third, PERIOD i thought

705
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 5: for sure If canada was going to score as many

706
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: shots as they got on, goal it was unbelievable AND

707
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 5: i couldn't take my eyes off of. It and then

708
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 5: of course they went to, overtime and the next thing you,

709
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: Know indiana wins in the first couple of, minutes and

710
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: that was just. Magical there's no.

711
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: Question it was pretty, awesome no question about.

712
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: It.

713
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Don tomorrow night it Is indiana And northwestern seven o'clock

714
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: pregame six o'clock over on our sister, STATION, wibc and

715
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: we will be.

716
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Listening appreciate the time as.

717
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: Always, hey thanks for having, Me.

718
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Jake all, Right Don, fisher the voice of The hoosiers joining.

719
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 4: Us all.

720
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: Right there was and really a range of emotions over

721
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: the course of the, weekend especially For purdue. Fans no

722
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: doubt about, it and The olympics as, well you, know

723
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: with the sun setting on The Olympic. Games AND i

724
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: do love The, olympics AND i THINK i enjoy The

725
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: Winter olympics even more than The Summer olympics because there

726
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: are so many sports That i'm with Which i'm unfamiliar

727
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: or at least every four years you become familiar with.

728
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: It BUT i enjoy also seeing some of the more you,

729
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: know the smaller countries that you don't see a lot

730
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: in The Summer, olympics and their prowess in The Winter.

731
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: Olympics AND i can't, IMAGINE i was sticking about this.

732
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 2: YESTERDAY i cannot, imagine no matter what country you're, from

733
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: the what it must feel like to be able to

734
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: stand on that top podium and hear the national anthem

735
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: of your country being played and know that it's being

736
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: played for an entire country based on your.

737
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Accomplishment pretty.

738
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: Awesome but there was something that happened over the course

739
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: of the weekend that got me thinking a little, bit

740
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: AND i went back and forth on how we'd discuss,

741
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: it but the way in WHICH i concluded to handle,

742
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: it we'll do Next Colts news to get to we

743
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: will do that With Mike chappell coming.

744
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Up in twelve.

745
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 2: Minutes my name Is Jake Querry Eddie, garrison the other

746
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: voice you hear on this. Program we call It quarry And.

747
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: Company here on ninety three five and one zero seven,

748
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: five one oh seven five the. FAN i, OH i

749
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: don't know if it, WAS i guess it would have

750
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: Been saturday. Evening it's really a fascinating. THING i have

751
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: no idea how or why this came to, be But

752
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: saturday AFTERNOON.

753
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: I.

754
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: Was you, know you go down a YouTube rabbit, hole

755
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: you start looking at, something and then you, know another

756
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: video suggested or pops, up and SOMEHOW i ended. UP

757
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: i kid you, not kid you. Not AND i remember

758
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: exactly WHERE i was when it. Happened exactly WHERE i

759
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: was when it. Happened but the video popped up Of

760
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: Rondell moore and his touchdown Against Ohio, state which is

761
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: an incredible. PLAY i THINK i Put purdue up twenty

762
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 2: two in that, game The Tyler trent game where they

763
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: shocked the, world And Tyler trent was the one that

764
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: basically called it and Said prdue is going to Beat Ohio,

765
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: state the second Rank buckeyes and they, did And Rondell

766
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: moore was just outstanding in that, game and that was

767
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: the introduction to the country of this dynamic player At.

768
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: Purdue and then later that, evening of, COURSE i learned

769
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: the terrible news that all of us now know That

770
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Rondell moore had passed away at the age of twenty

771
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: five of what appears to be self infliction that has

772
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: not been conclusively, ruled but that's the early. Indication and

773
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: in that, CAPACITY i got to think it about.

774
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: Something and.

775
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: My apologies IF i hope this comes off the way

776
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: That i'm hoping or the way THAT i was intending it.

777
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: TO i think that we have in the automatic default,

778
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: answer And i'm not saying it's, wrong but the natural

779
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: tendency answer when you hear of something like, that and in,

780
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: particular when you hear of someone taking their own life

781
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: that theoretically has.

782
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: The world with their.

783
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: Fingertips and it's easy for those of us on the

784
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: sidelines to look At Rondell moore or any athlete and, say,

785
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: man you have all this money and all this opportunity and,

786
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: fame or to also, say, boy the poor, guy he got.

787
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: Hurt he didn't know how to come. Back from that

788
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: that must have been. Difficult the reality is that we

789
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: have no, Idea we have no idea what the cause.

790
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Was some will say, like, oh he must have HAD,

791
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: cte you know any number of.

792
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: THINGS i think.

793
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: It shows and illustrated two points number. One no matter

794
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: where you are in your, life sometimes it's almost impossible

795
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: to see beyond that. Moment i'm fifty, Three so at fifty,

796
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: THREE i know AND i understand how much life before

797
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: you you should have it twenty. Five BUT i also

798
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: can remember what life was like at twenty, five.

799
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: And it was.

800
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: Hard and if you're listening to my voice and you're

801
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: somebody in your mid, twenties your mid, thirties whatever it might,

802
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: be and you are just in that point where you

803
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: look at other people and you feel like they've got

804
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: it figured out and you're. Confused they're making money and you're.

805
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: Not they're able to pay their bills and you're. Struggling it's,

806
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: hard and it's hard to grasp that that is not,

807
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: totality and that that's not your permanent.

808
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: Reality it's a difficult.

809
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Thing BUT i got a text message that night as

810
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: everybody was absorbing this news Of Rondell moore because the

811
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: immediate reaction is there's always someone to talk to if

812
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: you're feeling down and. Depressed you, know nine to eighty

813
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: eight is the suicide and crisis. Lifeline if you're on

814
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: a cell phone nine eight eight nine eight nine eight,

815
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: eight Call and it's very very easy for those of

816
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: us in reaction to, say.

817
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: You're never.

818
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: Alone and it's also easy to, say and it's not.

819
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: Wrong check on your, people check on your, friends check

820
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 2: on your. Colleagues but you know, What i'll go one step,

821
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: further check on your. Strangers and let me explain WHAT

822
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: i meant by. THAT i got a text message from

823
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: a listener On saturday. Evening Now i'm not going to

824
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: say the name, here but it simply says the. Following

825
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: WHEN i was deep in my alcohol, ADDICTION i almost

826
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: did the same. Thing my wife interrupted. ME i tried

827
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: to make up some stupid reason WHY i was standing

828
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: in the backyard with my. Gun she didn't buy. It

829
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: she threatened to call my, dad and it was embarrassing

830
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: to talk about. IT i feel so ashamed and scared

831
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: THAT i almost did. That no one else knows THAT

832
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: i was that, close and this is what struck. Me

833
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: it really struck, me AND i hope it strikes other.

834
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: PEOPLE i took my dog on quote our last. WALK

835
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: i was crying my eyes out the whole. Way three

836
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: different people stopped to pet my, dog but none of

837
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: them asked WHY i was. CRYING i legitimately thought no one,

838
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: cared even in the presence of my. TEARS i GUESS

839
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: i can open up and tell you this because we

840
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: don't actually know each. Other that's a quote or a

841
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: TEXT i got from a listener On saturday, night AND

842
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 2: i thought there was a very deep epiphany there of

843
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: here is someone that's taking their dog for a walk

844
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: because they want to be able to do the last

845
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: thing that was of normalcy before they have come to

846
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: the conclusion that this is the, end and people are

847
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: stopping to pet the dog and not noticing the person

848
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: walking the dog has eyes full of. Tears because have

849
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: we become so jaded or so self absorbed as a,

850
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: society or so caught in the next that we can't

851
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: stop and grasp the moment before us and look at

852
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: someone where we SAY i have no idea what your life,

853
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: IS i have no idea what your life's, been BUT

854
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: i know that you're a human and so AM i

855
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: and it looks to me like you're. Struggling you doing?

856
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: Okay and sometimes to someone if you simply, say how's

857
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: your day. Going we've, gotten, unfortunately to a point in

858
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: society where that seems, weird and that seems, overstepping and

859
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: that seems like it's a boundary. Cross but at its,

860
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: core it's simply looking out for your fellow man or

861
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: woman by just simply, saying, hey how you. Doing and

862
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: when you say, hey how you, doing oftentimes that is

863
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: a rhetorical question or almost just the supplant for a.

864
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Greeting but if.

865
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: You ask someone how they're doing and they actually stop

866
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: and tell, you even to the point where it's uncomfortable

867
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: and it's more than you ask, for then instead of

868
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: immediately dismissing that as, boy that's a LITTLE, tmi then

869
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 2: just stop and think about the fact that sometimes when

870
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: someone's walking their, dog it's great to notice the cuteness

871
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: of the, dog but sometimes you also need to see

872
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: the expression on the face of the person that's with,

873
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: it because you do never know what someone's going. Through and,

874
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: yes it's important to look after your, friends your, family

875
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: BUT i think we've lost as a group sometimes our

876
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: understanding and responsibility to look after each other as our fellow.

877
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: People AND i don't know What Rondell moore and his situation.

878
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: WAS i don't know if that's even applicable to that exact,

879
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 2: narrative other than to say that there are two people

880
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: in a, situation, one if they are very, down that

881
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: may have an inability to understand, that in, fact whatever

882
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: is happening is never permanent unless you make it so.

883
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Unfortunately and two that if you're the other, person it

884
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be someone that you know well for

885
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: you to have simply the generosity and the compassion of

886
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: how are? You and if that leads to more than

887
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: a rhetorical, answer then maybe that means in that moment

888
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: it Was god's will that it was your time to simply,

889
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: Listen and even if it's for thirty, seconds just like

890
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: that person that sent me that, text that shows, that in,

891
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: fact when they feel all, alone if even a perfect

892
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: stranger is willing to stand beside, them then that could

893
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: open their eyes to the fact that it is a

894
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 2: big world of a lot of people and a lot

895
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: of opportunity beyond what in that moment feels like. Darkness

896
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: but nine to eighty eight is the suicide and crisis.

897
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: Lifeline if even if it's that stranger that you need

898
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: to talk, to nine eight eight is there for. You

899
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: so to my phone number where you can always text

900
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: me as. Well, uh THE nfl combine is, Here it is.

901
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Underway cults are going to talk. TOMORROW i think we're

902
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: going to be out. There more on that. Upcoming But

903
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: Mike chappel in terms of some of the discussions going

904
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: on with The, colts including at the quarterback, position that conversation.

905
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Next, Okay so the money is it going to be?

906
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: Talking when it comes To Daniel. Jones i'm going to

907
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: predict right, Now, Eddie you?

908
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: Ready.

909
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: OKAY i did a radio hit as we call it

910
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: in the business With Kansas city recently and they asked

911
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: me WHAT i Thought Daniel jones would sign, for AND i,

912
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: said you, know with the injury and whatever else it could,

913
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: be you, know maybe they get them for twenty. Five

914
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: I'M i don't know WHAT i was thinking WHEN i said.

915
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: It i'm going to predict right, Now you, Ready, Okay

916
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: i'm going to.

917
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: Predict they Signed Daniel jones to a four, year one

918
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million dollar.

919
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Contract that's my. Prediction is that totally off. Base you

920
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: think what is that per? Year thirty well one twenty

921
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: five would be uh thirty point one two five per, year, RIGHT.

922
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 3: I think it'll be three years around twenty eight with

923
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: a team option on that final.

924
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Year that's.

925
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: Fair twenty, EIGHT i, think. YEAH i mean maybe maybe twenty.

926
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: Eight twenty five to twenty eight feels right to. Me

927
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: but because of the, injury.

928
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: If it's longer than three, YEARS i am really going

929
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: to question why they're doing a four year deal for

930
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: a guy that really hasn't proven much outside of those

931
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: first nine games or whatever it was for The colts

932
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: prior to that fibula.

933
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: Fracture But i'm telling you, what let's go to The

934
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: Java house cold brew. Coffee by the, way Yesterday, SHANNON

935
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: i went to The Java, house which One broader pol

936
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: to breakfast sandwich is two. Drinks ordered it on the

937
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: App Java house. App ordered it right there on the

938
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: app ahead of. Time took ten, minutes you, know as

939
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: we're walking, In i'm going to ordered it in. Boom

940
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: in ten minutes it was. Ready BUT i used To

941
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: codejake twenty five and got twenty five percent.

942
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: Off the entire. Order so there is the.

943
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: Key if you go to The Java house, app you

944
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: can also find a location near you for one of

945
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: their coffee. Houses Mike chappell joining US Nfl combine getting.

946
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: Underway colts will speak, tomorrow Chap we know right now

947
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: they are basically at the negotiating table Right Daniel jones's

948
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: representatives and The. Colts number, one how sure are you

949
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: that a long term deal will be? Reached and then number,

950
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: two what is the ballpark you would estimate that will be?

951
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 4: Towards i'm pretty, sure pretty sure something gets. Done the

952
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 4: franchise tag's pretty. Stiff it's like forty seven forty eight, million,

953
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 4: Correct so, YEAH i. AM i am ninety percent sure

954
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: it gets. Done which it's easy for me to. Say

955
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 4: it's not my. MONEY i initially thought he might get

956
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: What Sam darnold And mayfield, got like roughly three, years

957
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 4: one hundred. MILLION i think it might be closer to forty.

958
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: Million but one thing that people really need to, understand

959
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 4: whether IT'S i understand what you're, saying three, years four,

960
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: years four years kind of makes me cringe and all,

961
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: that but.

962
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 3: It.

963
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 4: Shouldn't all that. Matters all that really matters in any

964
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 4: of these deals is guaranteed. Money because you can sign

965
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: a five years zillion, million you, know a million dollar

966
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: deal that's guaranteed through two years and the last three

967
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: years are. Gone so the length of the deal probably

968
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 4: allows you to spread out cap the cap. Hit BUT

969
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 4: i just Think i've always, said guaranteed, money give what

970
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 4: you can get because that money doesn't go. Away that's your.

971
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: Money so What i've always considered in these things, Is,

972
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 4: okay what's the guaranteed money in the franchise tag it's

973
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: forty seven whatever million. Dollars in my, mind If I'm,

974
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: jones that's that's the number that matters to. Me not

975
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 4: so much one hundred, million one hundred and fifty, Million

976
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: but what's my guaranteed? Money forty seven forty eight? Million

977
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 4: and in the, YEARS i guess it benefits the team or.

978
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 4: NOT i guess it benefits the team because you've got

979
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 4: the guy of the contract and then you can keep,

980
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: him or LIKE i, said with the guaranteed, Money Michael

981
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 4: pittman's gonna count twenty nine million to get the, cap

982
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: but if they cut, him they save twenty five million.

983
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 4: Dollars so the back end of contract can go. AWAY

984
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 4: i think around around forty. MILLION i think that would

985
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: probably be a ceiling For. Jones but what matters is

986
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: what kind of guaranteed money he. Gets, uh it'll be

987
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: the same with all Like, PIERCE i don't know which

988
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 4: one's more. Complicated you, know you've got the. Injury With,

989
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 4: jones he's told us that he expects to be ready

990
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: by training. Camp maybe a little. Poor he might be

991
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: throwing during the OTA's somewhat not nothing. Heavy and With, pierce,

992
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: boy you're gonna send decent money into a guy as

993
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: valuable as he. Is the most catches he's ever had

994
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: in the years forty. Seven but that doesn't, mean in my,

995
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 4: mind it diminishes his. Importance it says that he's not a.

996
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 4: One he's not a, one which is. Fine so it's

997
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: gonna be. INTERESTING i think they both get done BECAUSE

998
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 4: i THINK i think the franchise for a receiver is

999
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 4: twenty six twenty seven something like. That i've got to

1000
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: get the next, right not.

1001
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: REFRAS i think it's twenty seven to seven for receiver

1002
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: in forty seven to two for.

1003
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 4: Quarterback, yeah the, franchise and it's the fallback is if

1004
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 4: you can't get something done with one of these, guys

1005
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: then you franchise.

1006
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: Him, well and So chap that let me ask you

1007
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: this BECAUSE i was thinking about. This is it fair

1008
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: to say the franchise tag For Daniel jones is exorbitantly

1009
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: higher in terms of the what you would pay him

1010
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: for the year than it would be in terms of

1011
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: his market. Value the franchise tag For Alec pierce is

1012
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: pretty consistent with his market. Value so wouldn't it behoove

1013
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: them to Get Daniel jones done as soon as possible

1014
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: so they then have the tag to use On pierce

1015
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: if need, be because it doesn't handcuff them any more

1016
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 2: than paying him anyway what he would get under, contract

1017
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: and so you.

1018
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 5: Would priority it makes. Sense it makes.

1019
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: Sense, Yeah and again the one year franchise, tag though

1020
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: with With jones obviously is maybe maybe he doesn't come

1021
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: back for this from This achilles like you hope he,

1022
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: does so then it's one. Year now it was forty

1023
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: seven million, dollars but it was just one year either.

1024
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: ONE i don't know IF i wouldn't use the term

1025
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 4: gamble BECAUSE I i don't see. EITHER i don't See

1026
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 4: peer being a bad investment at all at. All but

1027
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: what helps in all of this is both players that

1028
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 4: have expressed the desire to be. Here pierce even, said,

1029
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 4: hey If jones comes, back of COURSE i had to

1030
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: make it more conducive than me being. Back the issue,

1031
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: is again it's two. Things that it's a guaranteed, money

1032
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: and it's also getting these done. BEFORE i think the

1033
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 4: window for teams to talk to your players is Like march.

1034
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 4: Ninth you do not want anybody being able to talk

1035
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: To Alec pierce and, say let's Say New, england, hey

1036
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: we'll give you thirty, mili you know, more because the

1037
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: market always is always going to pay more than what

1038
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: you think the guy is.

1039
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 5: Worth your own. Guy so.

1040
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 4: That's the impetus to get this. Done if you're the colt,

1041
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: says don't let either guy get out. There AND i

1042
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: Realize jones has the, injury don't tell me. That like

1043
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: The Minnesota vikings wouldn't, say, yeah we should have reached

1044
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 4: onn you last year because you know THAT'S i, mean

1045
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 4: that's an ideal place to. Go that those guys gotta

1046
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: get things together real quick the way they've botched up

1047
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: the quarterback, Situation so you know it'll be INTERESTING i

1048
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: think they get. Done uh and again you have to

1049
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 4: they would have to do the franchise tag on or

1050
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 4: the transition taging on one of these guys By march.

1051
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: Third that's the. Deadline they didn't remember they did that with.

1052
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 4: It they weren't quite done With pittman's contract was was

1053
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: it three, years seventy? Million so they tagged him one

1054
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: day and then like five days later they got the contract.

1055
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 4: Done so it gives you the, bridge but they want

1056
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 4: to get you the bridge to one. Guy Uh so

1057
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: one of these, guys by by practical, purposes had needs

1058
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: to be, done you know in the next, whatever the,

1059
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 4: whatever it's ten days before the before the, ninth and

1060
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: and the other guy you could you could buy time

1061
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: with the franchise. Tag they probab is when you when

1062
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 4: you when you apply the franchise, tag that money hits

1063
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: the cap. Immediately so you, know they don't have forty

1064
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 4: seven million dollars right now in cap space For jones

1065
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: and a long term deal that won't be that. HIGH

1066
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 4: i kind of think they're going to approach two or

1067
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 4: three players to redo. Contracts quentin, uh maybe the Forst,

1068
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: buckner Maybe Jonathan. TAYLOR i don't. Know they've GOT i tell,

1069
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 4: you they've got really really smart cat. People and while

1070
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 4: the salary cap is sort, of, uh it's it's not

1071
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: hard at, all it's kind of so you can make

1072
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: that thing to do whatever you want by pushing money.

1073
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 4: Forward SO i think in the next two weeks they

1074
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: get both of these guys done and then they'll figure

1075
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: out what they're doing because they're the. Players, uh you,

1076
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: know they've got to decide what they do With Antheya,

1077
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: richardson they, DO i think they trade, Him.

1078
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: Well what do you think his value? Is what's his

1079
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: marketball fifth round pick or five or.

1080
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 4: SIX i don't, know but he's it's kind of obvious

1081
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: to me that he just doesn't fit what Shain stichin

1082
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: likes to. Do AND i THINK i think he needs

1083
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: to go somewhere else because the only thoughts that people

1084
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: around here have is he's he's played fifteen games in

1085
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 4: three years and he tapped out of a game and

1086
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 4: was bench. Twice uh for not approaching is his craft?

1087
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: Properly those are tough things to. Overcome and, hey if

1088
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 4: he goes somewhere else and has a great, career good for.

1089
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 4: HIM i just don't think that has a chance, HERE

1090
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 4: i really.

1091
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 5: Don't.

1092
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay so along those, Lines Mike chap is my GUEST cbs,

1093
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: FOUR wxa And fox fifty, nine Longtime colts beat. Writer

1094
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: of course he's on The Java House Colebrew coffee guest, Line,

1095
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: chap let's go back, to you, know the situation with

1096
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: like at. Quarterback, okay AND i think we know where

1097
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: they're going. There but is there a position that as

1098
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 2: the combine is now here That Chris ballard may be

1099
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: looking at because it is an area that he knows

1100
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: he's going to have to find replacement that would surprise.

1101
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: Us in other, words can you give me two or

1102
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: three players or positions that we feel like are a

1103
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: solidarity for The, colts but they may make a change

1104
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: and there might be a player that is not on

1105
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: the roster next year that surprisingly is not on the.

1106
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: Roster is there anything that jumps out.

1107
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 5: Of, You, oh the.

1108
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 4: LINEBACKER i mean it's that we're in the season now

1109
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: where it's Pylon Zaire. Franklin he, COUNTS i think it's

1110
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 4: eight million against cap AND i think he can, SAY

1111
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: i don't, know five or, SIX i haven't Got these

1112
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 4: are approximate. Numbers and he had a socio season last,

1113
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: year and they so de valued the position with the

1114
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: way they approached. IT i can see them doing something,

1115
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 4: there but and they need a. SAFETY i don't know

1116
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 4: if they Resign Nick, cross good really good, player but

1117
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 4: you're gonna have money invested. ELSEWHERE i think as far

1118
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: as the combine, goes we're gonna look at these, guys

1119
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: and they always they always bring in an offensive. Lineman

1120
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: the offensive line's in pretty good. SHAPE i don't know

1121
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 4: If Braden smith comes, back he's gonna get too much

1122
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: on the. Market but defensive, Line holy, smokes they've got

1123
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 4: to redo the defensive. Line SO i can see a

1124
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 4: couple of, picks a couple high, picks you, know without

1125
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: thinking a first round pick going towards the defensive. Line

1126
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 4: they've got three or four, strong top end players are

1127
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: going to be free agents that probably won't be, back

1128
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: so They Chris baller always tells us that he'll never

1129
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 4: ignore defensive line off, line AND i see that being the.

1130
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 4: Case one thing that we need to keep keep an

1131
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: eye on though as far as the draft is if

1132
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: if they maybe we've talked about, this but if they

1133
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 4: part ways With Michael. Pittman he's twenty nine, meal LIKE i,

1134
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 4: said and you can save a boat road against the.

1135
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 4: Cap in my, mind you better find you better have

1136
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: somebody in mind to step in and replace his. VOID

1137
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 4: i think it would be counterproductive to resign heavily In

1138
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 4: Alec pierce with the expectations of him now being your.

1139
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 4: ONE i just don't think that's what he. Is what

1140
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 4: he does is. Exceptional so you need to have somebody

1141
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 4: that you need that third guy to go along With

1142
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 4: Josh downs And Alec, pierce whether that's going to and

1143
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: again they've had good luck in the second, round third

1144
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: round of the draft with, receivers but.

1145
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: It's got to be a big, target, right you know

1146
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: WHAT i?

1147
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 5: Mean Could?

1148
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: TYLER i know it's a different, position but if you

1149
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: look at let's say that you Got downs doing his thing,

1150
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: right being that floating of me ba that like just

1151
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: your in space. Guy and you've Got piers that can

1152
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: be a bubble screen guy and a deep threat. Guy

1153
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: and that's what Makes peers sur valuable is he can

1154
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: kind of be, anywhere, Right could you actually Put Tyler

1155
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: warren in positions where he becomes your big target over the.

1156
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: Middle pittman bailout guy and get away with it there

1157
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: a little, BIT i.

1158
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: Guess but but then then you've you've weakened the tight end.

1159
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 4: AREA i guess Because Tyler warren's a tight. End he's

1160
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: his value is moving all around different spots inside, outside.

1161
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 4: BACKFIELDS i think it would it would be it would

1162
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 4: be wrong to structure your offense to, where, well we've

1163
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 4: Got tyler warrens when you Let pittman, GO i think

1164
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 4: then that weakens the receiver room and it's asking Maybe

1165
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 4: Tyler warren to do more than than what he's best.

1166
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 4: At SO i understand what you're, saying and that's and

1167
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 4: we a lot of other guys productions go down last

1168
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 4: year because because Of Tyler. Warren Josh downs was the main.

1169
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 4: One his production really went down Because Tyler warren did

1170
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 4: a lot of, that and everybody's production went down After

1171
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 4: Dangral jones went. Down BUT i would not be in

1172
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 4: favor of doing. THAT i understand what you're. Saying BUT

1173
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 4: i If I'm Reggie, wayne and he grudgingly, says, YEAH

1174
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 4: i go, ahead and you're in a. Pit but then he,

1175
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: says but, then but then what are you giving me?

1176
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: Back?

1177
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 4: What what's my trade, off whether it's a high draft,

1178
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 4: pick whether it's that that that mid line veteran guy

1179
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 4: that's going to get you sixty. Catches and we know

1180
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 4: how bad they've been at getting receivers in free. Agency remember,

1181
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 4: THAT i still say the best one they've ever signed

1182
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 4: Was Donnie avery back in twenty. Twelve so it's it's not.

1183
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 4: Hard it's not easy to.

1184
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 5: Do.

1185
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 4: Uh that's why these next several weeks are gonna be really,

1186
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 4: interesting and and maybe they keep maybe the restructure pit

1187
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 4: and extind him a little. Bit it's always the problem

1188
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 4: is your your freshest memories are the ones that are the.

1189
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 4: Strongest and people remember the LAST i don't, know six

1190
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: weeks of the, Season pitt didn't do very much and

1191
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: he even admitted, that, well there were. Reasons there were

1192
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 4: reasons for. That so he's been he's one of those

1193
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 4: guys that's so easy to say get rid of, him

1194
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 4: and he had the savings. Immense but you, know AS

1195
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 4: i always, say it's easy to cut guys and it's

1196
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 4: hard to replace. Guys but we'll know in the next

1197
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 4: couple of weeks what they're doing with all these. Guys

1198
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 4: pitt And Zaire franklin probably the two most interesting to.

1199
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: Me did they see enough out Of Jalen travis to

1200
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: Make Braden smith?

1201
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: EXPENDABLE i think?

1202
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 4: So and if, not then then they pushed Mag gonzovez

1203
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 4: the right tackle.

1204
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: Or do they Have are there other positions where you

1205
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: look At chap a guy and, say you, know he

1206
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten like full, reps but when his number has been,

1207
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: called he's been good and therefore there is a cost

1208
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: cutting possibility above him if you slide him up and promote.

1209
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: Him anybody else jump out at you as a guy

1210
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: that fits into that.

1211
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: Category, no because you, KNOW i, say, well corner back.

1212
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 4: Again you don't know What Mooney ward is going to.

1213
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: Do Stephen holder posted that he's had some interaction with

1214
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 4: somebody that that Now Mooney awards maybe leaning towards coming

1215
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 4: back that that may be. Strong but you, KNOW i

1216
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 4: sort of expected him to, retire but maybe he. Doesn't

1217
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 4: and he's a he's a dark good. Corner But Jalen,

1218
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 4: jones holy, smokes this guy started like was it twenty

1219
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 4: seven games over two years since first YEAR'S Nat they

1220
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 4: only played him when they had to last?

1221
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: Year was it was?

1222
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: Crazy how how much they didn't care For Jalen, jones

1223
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: a young. Corner but as far but as far as

1224
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 4: the offensive, line if that's what you're talking talking, about

1225
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 4: it is you've Drafted, bortolini is your. Center you Drafted

1226
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: GONZALBEES i thought initially to be your right tackle if

1227
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: Once Braden smith's, Done but then you put him at

1228
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: right guard and he played, okay And Jalen travis played

1229
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: okay at right. Tackle SO i think the right side

1230
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 4: is still in flux on what they do at right.

1231
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: Tackle and that's what the off season. Approved and you've

1232
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 4: got is It tucker the undirected free agent at. Guard

1233
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 4: but they're they're gonna out. There they're gonna draft an

1234
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: offensive lineman and the fourth round and fifth round because

1235
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 4: that's what you. Do you just always have to have

1236
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 4: guys in the. Pipeline but there's two or three positions

1237
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: they really need to. Address defensive line. LINEBACKER i mean

1238
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 4: they could go into the seat in the in three

1239
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 4: weeks to have hardly any linebackers with experience under, contract

1240
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: so that that's a major position to deal. With ALTHOUGH

1241
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 4: i thought they devalued the position last year to where

1242
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 4: they usually played with, two they rarely played with three

1243
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 4: linebackers on the, field so.

1244
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: Well they thought what to do on the defensive, Side

1245
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 2: chap when you're talking about, corner AND i agree with

1246
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: you on you, Know Shabarius, Ward Moody, ward when you

1247
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 2: look at the number of, concussions it would be totally.

1248
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: Understandable AND i would respect it if he decides that

1249
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: for any, player any player that decides that their body's had,

1250
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: ENOUGH i get. It but a guy That eddie just

1251
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: pointed out that we had, forgotten not forgotten about that

1252
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: we haven't. Mentioned they really liked what they saw out

1253
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 2: Of Justin, wallely WHO i believe out Of minnesota their

1254
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: draft pick at the corner before he went. Down he's

1255
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: somebody also maybe not comes in as a, starter but

1256
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 2: assuming he's able to come back from, injury he's going

1257
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: to give them nice depth in their defensive, backfield Right,

1258
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: well no.

1259
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 4: Question and when he went down they saw him as a.

1260
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 4: Starter this was obviously Pre Sauce gardner and they give

1261
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 4: every indication he was going to be a starter along With.

1262
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 4: Ward so, no and you Got Hunter, waller WHO i

1263
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 4: think he was a foot. INJURY i think it WAS

1264
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 4: i get these injuries mixed up during the off. Season

1265
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 4: but he's that guy That's is he a? Safety is

1266
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 4: he is he a box? Safety could he play? LINEBACKER

1267
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: i don't. Know so they've got. Options they've got, options

1268
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 4: BUT i would like something a little bit more because

1269
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 4: you're getting these guys are coming off. Injury you just

1270
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 4: don't know what they're going to. Do and we've had,

1271
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: guys we The cults have had guys that have had

1272
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 4: injury problems and they've never gotten past. Them so that

1273
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 4: that's what you. Had that always gives me a little

1274
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 4: bit of a pause when, well this Guy Daniel, Scott

1275
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 4: god blessing was that they really like him and he

1276
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 4: can't stay. Healthy SO i go back to the in

1277
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 4: the days With, peyton with G, green they loved him

1278
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 4: as a receiver and he could not stay. Healthy so

1279
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 4: a lot of moving. Parts we'll try to we might

1280
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 4: get some answers. TOMORROW i don't think we will Because

1281
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: chris doesn't talk a lot about talk a. Lot he

1282
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 4: hardly talks about. Negotiations he'll talk about the importance of

1283
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 4: getting these of what are the importance these guys have

1284
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 4: at the. Team but when he came out during His

1285
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: january talk with us and he Prioritized Daniel jones And Alec.

1286
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 4: Pierce he. Did and when you're that strong and you

1287
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 4: look at, okay let's say you. Don't you don't Get jones,

1288
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 4: done you're playing b is what you're going to Give

1289
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 4: Anthony riginson one more? CHANCE i don't think that's, possible.

1290
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeap somebody just asked me, this AND i Know. Bradon

1291
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 2: for clarity, Here Brayden, smith the offensive, lineman is a

1292
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: free at his contracts, up so they have to resign it,

1293
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: Correct but to give perspective of like if they were

1294
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 2: to do AND i know in the this is more

1295
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: AN nba, thing but if they were to do a

1296
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: sign in trade to get and somebody asked me, this

1297
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: texted me this. Question So i'll ask you to give

1298
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: perspective On Anthony richardson's market. Value if they were to

1299
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: sign and then Trade Braiden, smith what Would Braiden smith

1300
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 2: get in?

1301
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: RETURN i don't know how that would work in THE,

1302
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 4: nfl because when you sign, somebody you're taking on.

1303
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: Money, Right.

1304
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: Let's just say for the sake of argument that let's

1305
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 2: say that they were going to trade him if he

1306
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: was still in a, Contract he's.

1307
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 4: Projected to get like seventeen million dollars on the market

1308
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 4: as a free, agent and you. Can't you can't trade

1309
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 4: him right as you're, arguing because he's not under, contract.

1310
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 4: DON'T i don't know how you would sign a.

1311
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: Player and, then, well What i'm saying is for the

1312
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 2: sake of the, discussion just if we're giving you, Know

1313
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: Braiden smith has been a solid player that's played for you,

1314
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: KNOW i know he's had.

1315
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: Injury, Whatever so probably a. Four, okay so a little bit.

1316
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 2: Below all, right last question combine, underway your favorite or

1317
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: least favorite thing about THE nfl combine and what this

1318
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: year's storyline is because it feels void of major.

1319
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: Storylines, go, yeah The.

1320
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 4: Colts don't have a first round, pick so who do

1321
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: we focus? On you focus on? Positions that's What i'm

1322
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 4: not crazy. About and then and then they're not going

1323
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 4: to listen to me because they. Don't but having player

1324
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 4: interviews at eight, o'clock And Kevin bowen will tell you,

1325
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 4: this having player interviews at eight o'clock in the morning

1326
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 4: should be prohibited because some of us don't get up that,

1327
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 4: early you know WHAT i. Mean And kevin whenever he

1328
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 4: wants to have me on the. SHOW i, said you

1329
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 4: MEAN i got to set my alarm thirty minutes before my. Bedtime,

1330
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 4: yes well, yeah and like two years, ago we Had

1331
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 4: Marvin harrison schedule like eight o'clock in the, Morning SO

1332
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 4: i have set the arm for, six get down ten

1333
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 4: and this is all about, me you understand, it of,

1334
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 4: course and then he shines us he's come, on he's left.

1335
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 4: Town so we're standing there with our notepads or, microphones

1336
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: taper corders and No marvin so. That but it's now it.

1337
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 4: WORKS i like it. HERE i don't go down as

1338
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 4: much as much AS i used. TO i used to

1339
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 4: be down there all the, time and Now i've learned

1340
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 4: THAT i don't need to.

1341
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 5: Be you pick out.

1342
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 4: Things i'm looking forward to talking To mendoza and some

1343
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 4: of THE i you, guys, uh just JUST i want

1344
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 4: to find out What mendoza things about going number one

1345
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 4: overall through a crappy, organization because that's what's going to,

1346
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 4: happen and we've seen how how bad that can go for.

1347
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 4: PLAYERS i you, KNOW i still Get David carr in

1348
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 4: my mind the Way houston destroyed The.

1349
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah but the one Thing i'll say, though From mendoza.

1350
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 2: Chap he's going to a place that has a solid

1351
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 2: tight end and a solid running RUNNING i understand, it

1352
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean but their, line but their line.

1353
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: Sucks so that's the.

1354
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 4: People pointing out that we Had. DAN i was On

1355
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 4: daniel here on minus, conference called you other. Day he's

1356
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 4: a great guy to talk to THE, nfl and he

1357
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 4: kept pointing out his toughness and he got remembered those

1358
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 4: hits he took early Against. Miami that's.

1359
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: Great, well listen his his signature drive of his career

1360
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: At indiana, though which was one. YEAR i realize his

1361
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: signature drive Against Penn state started by him getting absolutely,

1362
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: blasted and his signature win in The Big ten title.

1363
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: GAME i, mean obviously signature winning be The miami, game But, Miami,

1364
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: Okay miami. Game he scores the game winning touchdown or

1365
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: the game ceiling touchdown by knocking over the player that

1366
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: had knocked him out or you, know hit him.

1367
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,520
Speaker 1: Hard when he was At cal.

1368
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: The Big ten championship, game he starts out by getting,

1369
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: blasted having to go to the, sidelines then comes back

1370
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: and The Ohio state, game he gets sacked and comes

1371
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: down and leads a game winning, Drives SO i get

1372
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: the toughness.

1373
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 5: ASPECT i tell, you one of the things that's COOL i.

1374
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 4: KEPT i still got a video on my phone Of

1375
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 4: Andrew luck's rookie year when they're Playing Green, bay you,

1376
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 4: know the shuts out With Leukemian bruce is in there

1377
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 4: in As reggie's career, game and early in the, game

1378
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 4: a guy from the right side of protection comes in

1379
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 4: Clean butayman, Linebacker Nick barnett or, somebody and they absolutely

1380
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 4: Destroy Andrew. Luck And i'm thinking he may be, done

1381
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 4: and of course he just pops.

1382
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 5: Up but That's.

1383
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 4: Luck. Yep you know that's that's the toughness you're talking.

1384
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 4: About but you, KNOW i just don't want to see

1385
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 4: my quarterback proof Like Jackson dart with The. Giants, okay you.

1386
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 4: Don't you don't have to prove to me that you're

1387
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 4: a tough guy because the defense is going to win

1388
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 4: more times than they. Lose but, no it's they talk

1389
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 4: poise in, toughness and he just makes. Plays SO i

1390
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: hope he succeeds, there and he had a great supporting

1391
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 4: task and he's gonna. Go if he goes to The,

1392
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 4: raiders he's got the tight end he's got the running,

1393
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 4: back no. Question, uh, well if you can't protect the,

1394
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 4: guy it just doesn't.

1395
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: Work Mike chapel will be up bright and early for

1396
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 2: every day of the combine at seven point thirty waiting

1397
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 2: outside first one to get, in And mendoza will speak

1398
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: at eight o'clock On. Friday The Colts brass will speak.

1399
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Mike chapa will have it all COVERED cbs FOUR

1400
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: WX A n.

1401
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 5: Five some of what you just said was a.

1402
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 4: Lot you realize that Doesn't.

1403
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: We'll let people figure out which part of it is.

1404
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: There you, go all, right chap appreciate, it right Like

1405
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: chapel joining us on The Java house cold by the,

1406
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: way cold brew like that's the process by which the

1407
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: coffee is, made which is what makes it so.

1408
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: Smooth, eddie you know how smooth The Java house? Is

1409
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: would you say which would you say is more? Smooth

1410
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: Java house or? Myself Java? House for, sure that's not

1411
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: even a.

1412
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: Question wait, till wait till you see the new WATCH i.

1413
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: Got When i'm wearing that new, watch you're going to, say,

1414
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: no that's a smooth, Fellow i'm, like shot a, right, No,

1415
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 2: no what's the little thing you're doing with your your your.

1416
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: Face you're you're telling me to, wrap said, It, well,

1417
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 2: NO i don't want to. WRAP i want to do shot.

1418
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: A IF i was going to, wrap then you'd find

1419
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: out how incredibly SMOOTH i, am BECAUSE i. Am i'm

1420
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 2: linguistically smooth as. Well Bryan nuber coming up top of the, Hour,

1421
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: eddie we didn't get to this necessarily in terms of

1422
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 2: your weekend and then fun and.

1423
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: Exciting, well if you were listening in the opening segment

1424
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 3: of the, Show, JAKE i did tell you WHAT i

1425
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 3: did this.

1426
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: Weekend, WELL i know you, worked But i'm saying aside

1427
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 2: from you, know running the board and whatever.

1428
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: ELSE i had to go Help olivia's parents clean out

1429
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,839
Speaker 3: their basement On. Saturday that was fun really not at all.

1430
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 2: Cleaning out like like decluttering or cleaning out like crawl,

1431
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 2: space you, know pick Up, Raccoon pooh. Decluttering, Okay any

1432
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: any fun trinkets that you came, across any.

1433
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: SOUVENIRS i found her?

1434
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: Diary really, yeah oh, boy It's was this a diary

1435
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 2: from before you met?

1436
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 4: Her?

1437
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: Yes oh really, yeah from when she was like in

1438
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: middle school and high school.

1439
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 1: And so who who was the boy of her big?

1440
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: Crush you, know she could be listening right. Now, ACTUALLY

1441
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: i better be careful with WHAT i say here did

1442
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: did did you read the?

1443
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: DIARY i read like two pages because that's all she

1444
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 3: would let me. Read and did she like put that?

1445
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: Down we're trying to clean?

1446
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 5: Here is it?

1447
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: Mentioning was you know there the mention of any boys

1448
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: that had captured her heart back in the?

1449
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: Day, NO i just remembered that she was no longer

1450
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: friends with her best friend. Anymore and she put like

1451
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: a million repeated the same word like thirty.

1452
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: TIMES i know she is she friends with that? Person?

1453
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 5: Now? No?

1454
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah so what she doesn't even recall this said.

1455
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 2: Person so what you're saying is this your girlfriend is

1456
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: one of those types that as soon as someone like

1457
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: does her, wrong it's like that's it off the.

1458
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: List not perhaps, yeah side out of? Mind, okay fair.

1459
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 3: Enough what about?

1460
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: You what'd you Do? Saturday did you start prepping For indy?

1461
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 5: Car?

1462
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: NO i need to start doing.

1463
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 5: That.

1464
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 2: Saturday let's, See friday night was The indianerpurdur, game, right?

1465
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 2: Yep saturday just went out to, dinner you, know the

1466
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: and then went back and WATCHED i actually watched a

1467
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 2: fair amount of The olympics this, weekend and there Are

1468
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: AS i mentioned, earlier The Winter olympic to me is

1469
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: fascinating because there are so many sports that you see

1470
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: them like every four, years you, KNOW i, mean you

1471
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: just aren't overall aware of. Them there's so many variations

1472
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,919
Speaker 2: of snow. Skiing AND i didn't, Realize.

1473
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: EDDIE i.

1474
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: Caught it out of the corner of my eye as

1475
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: we were doing the crossover WITH j AND v On,

1476
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: friday right as we were wrapping the show is When

1477
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: Nick gepper had his. Accident yeah, yeah, Man AND i

1478
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: MEAN i literally looked up And i'm, like, whoa this

1479
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: guy just hit the side of the barrier there in

1480
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 2: the halfpipe or. Whatever and you, know the fact that

1481
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: he got up was pretty. INCREDIBLE i did not hear

1482
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: the extent of his injury per.

1483
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: Se BUT.

1484
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 2: I really do enjoy The, olympics AND i think it's

1485
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: the combination of the athletic competition of it and seeing different.

1486
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: Sports THE Ncaa tournament is interesting to me because it's

1487
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 2: a lot like The olympics in this. REGARD i am

1488
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 2: the first to ADMIT i like basketball a lot AND

1489
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: i will watch games If i'm having dinner and it's

1490
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 2: on or whatever. Else but in terms of just sitting

1491
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: down on A tuesday night in the middle Of, December

1492
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 2: i'm probably not gonna watch If i'm flipping through An

1493
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: Arizona state is stepping out of conference to take On.

1494
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: Minnesota but if it's THE ncaa tournament In Arizona states Playing,

1495
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 2: MINNESOTA i will lock in and watch every play of

1496
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,839
Speaker 2: that game and be totally into it and be completely

1497
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: excited for different levels and aspects of the. TOURNAMENT i

1498
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 2: love everything about. It and in The, olympics the same is.

1499
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 2: True if it were any other time of, Year i'm

1500
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: probably not stopping to watch the biathlon or to watch ski.

1501
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: Mountaineering, yes some of those.

1502
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 2: Different, now there was there's one cross country event THAT

1503
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: i was watching AND i don't know what exactly the

1504
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: name of the event, was but it Was i'm looking

1505
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: at the clock And i'm, thinking these people have been

1506
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: doing this for an hour and ten, minutes and literally

1507
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: they would finish and like, COLLAPSE i mean just fall,

1508
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: over AND i mean dartin looked like they're falling, asleep

1509
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: and everybody's, like, okay well whatever that the poor guy's

1510
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: been shipping through the snow for an hour and a.

1511
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: Half but AS i watched, though and MAYBE i should

1512
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 2: give the qualifier that it's in the events The United

1513
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: states doesn't have a, representation or if The United states

1514
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,799
Speaker 2: is out of metal. Competition but WHAT i see things

1515
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: like a figure, SKATER i think it was figure skating

1516
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 2: From kazakhstan that wins a. MEDAL i enjoy that BECAUSE

1517
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: i think to, myself and maybe it's unfair and terribly

1518
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: stereotypical or almost prejudice of, Me but there are certain

1519
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 2: nations THAT i have this preconceived notion that that nation

1520
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 2: is one where the majority of people are living in

1521
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 2: poverty or squalor or just don't have, hope and that

1522
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 2: to see someone representing their country in winning or putting

1523
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: it on a positive, stage it makes me feel good

1524
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 2: for those people BECAUSE i think they must really appreciate

1525
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: what that. Means and SOMETIMES i think here in THE

1526
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: us we've lost sight of that a little, Bit and

1527
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: then you see the hockey team win and you realize

1528
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: that we haven't lost total side of. It because of

1529
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: the level Of united euphoria we had yesterday based on

1530
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: that what happened between the, lines what happened afterwards in

1531
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: terms of how they handled the locker, room or who

1532
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 2: was in or who, wasn't you, know, whatever people Can

1533
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: that's why we are the greatest country in the world

1534
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: because we can debate and discuss those things till the

1535
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 2: cows come. Home but in terms of what happened between

1536
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 2: the lines of that hockey, game it was. Fantastic and

1537
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 2: the euphoria with which those, players the outburst of emotion

1538
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 2: of representing The United, states whether it be pro, college you, know,

1539
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: amateur whatever it, was it was awesome and it was

1540
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: super tense watching. That BUT i one and forty, DAYS

1541
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: i think they said it is between now and the

1542
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: Next Winter olympics In, france AND i actually look forward to.

1543
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: It Brian nubert going to join us coming up in

1544
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:40,520
Speaker 2: just about eighteen. Minutes but on the other, side the

1545
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: other aspect Of purdue, news aside from their big, win

1546
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about With brian Over indiana and The

1547
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 2: boilers season now getting set For Michigan, state another big,

1548
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: one the other side Of purdue news and a recollection

1549
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: of what we talked about earlier THAT i think is

1550
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: an important.

1551
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 5: Topic.

1552
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: Next SO i mentioned this.

1553
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 2: Earlier matter of, fact much of What i'm about to

1554
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: MENTION i mentioned, earlier BUT i think it's important to,

1555
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: repeat not for, me not for.

1556
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: Just in.

1557
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: General you, know the news Of Rondell moore's, passing and

1558
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 2: at the age of twenty, five that is obviously tragic

1559
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 2: in its own, right and we may never, know nor

1560
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: is it necessarily any of our, business what may have

1561
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: led him to the point of feeling, that if in

1562
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 2: fact the reports are true that this was self, inflicted

1563
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 2: will probably never know what Led Rondell moore to that.

1564
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: DARKNESS i have always felt as somebody who in my,

1565
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: life there have been two different periods WHERE i went

1566
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 2: through a, depression both of which were, circumstantial and both

1567
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: of which were circumstances that probably LARGELY i was responsible.

1568
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,839
Speaker 2: For but And i'm not a psychologist nor a, doctor

1569
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: But i've always said in those, PERIODS i remember my

1570
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: brain getting warm the WAY i used to describe, it

1571
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think what would happen WAS i would there

1572
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: were circumstances that had me frustrated or, upset and THEN

1573
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: i could feel the chemicals of my brain literally like

1574
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: the imbalance of the sad chemicals overtaking the happy. Ones

1575
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: And i'm speaking in very neophyte terms, here but that's

1576
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 2: how it. Felt and the two things THAT i knew

1577
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: in that moment WAS i remember at the times That

1578
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: i've been depressed watching television and seeing people on television and,

1579
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Thinking i'll bet they never felt this, way OR i

1580
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 2: wonder if they felt this, Way and you become convinced

1581
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 2: that you're the only one that's ever been through something like,

1582
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:56,480
Speaker 2: that and it's very difficult to understand and grasp that

1583
01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: that life is not about the moment of which you're,

1584
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 2: in but rather the collection of, moments and notably those

1585
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 2: that have yet to. Happen and that's a difficult thing to.

1586
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,839
Speaker 2: Grasp AND i remember being twenty, five and at twenty

1587
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 2: five it was a very confusing. Time and if you're

1588
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: listening to my voice right now and you're in your

1589
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: mid twenties or you're looking at you, Know i've always

1590
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: felt like in life one of the real challenges is

1591
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: between the age of six and, eighteen you're moving on

1592
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 2: a treadmill at the same pace as everyone. Else you

1593
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 2: go to fourth, grade some kids go to four point,

1594
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 2: zero some kids, struggle and you go to fifth, grade

1595
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: and you go to sixth, grade and no matter whether

1596
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 2: you're the one that's way out in front of everybody

1597
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: or in the middle of the pack or lagging.

1598
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Behind for the most.

1599
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 2: Part you then progress the next year and you are

1600
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: advanced along with everyone, else and you restart over again

1601
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 2: Each august or whatever year school starts, again and then

1602
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: you get out into quote unquote the real, world and

1603
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: everyone's taking off at different. Paces some of the guys

1604
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: you ran with are off and running and making tons of.

1605
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Money others are still figuring their way, out or going

1606
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: to grad school or still trying to graduate undergrad or

1607
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: didn't go to, college or.

1608
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: In the, service whatever it may.

1609
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 2: Be but, now all of a, sudden when you had

1610
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: this regiment where everyone was going at the same, pace

1611
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 2: now it's. Staggered and that can be a really difficult

1612
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: thing to understand and grasp when you're in your. Twenties

1613
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 2: and WHETHER i don't know With Rondell, moore whether it

1614
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: was because of his football career being limited by injury

1615
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 2: or whatever it may, BE i don't know what was

1616
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 2: in that young man's.

1617
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: Mindset WHAT i know is, this.

1618
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 2: Here's a guy that graduated From purdue in a sales

1619
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 2: and marketing degree in two and a half years was

1620
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: a prolific. Player we loved watching his antics on the football.

1621
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: Field we didn't know him as a, person but we

1622
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: assumed that we did because we saw what he did

1623
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: on the football. Film Maybe Roddell moore thought of himself

1624
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 2: as more than just. THAT i don't, know BUT i

1625
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 2: know that when it comes to, recognition when we hear

1626
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 2: of tragic situations like, this our immediate reaction is to,

1627
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: say if you are in that, situation you should recognize

1628
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,879
Speaker 2: that there's always a, solution that there's always an, answer

1629
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 2: there's always someone like the text line nine to eight,

1630
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: eight that you can call or, text and that there's

1631
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 2: always someone willing to. Listen it's our immediate reaction to

1632
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: look at a circumstance like that and say that the

1633
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: person who is struggling should have the recognition to know

1634
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: that they're not. Alone but maybe in fact the responsibility

1635
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 2: and the recognition is ours to recognize when people are.

1636
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: Hurt And i'm going to go back to the text

1637
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: THAT i Received saturday evening from a. LISTENER i don't,

1638
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't know this, person BUT i do give myself.

1639
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 2: Phone i'm route And i've always enjoyed all of the.

1640
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 2: INTERACTIONS i got the following Text saturday, evening after The

1641
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: Rondel moore story was, public WHEN i was deep in

1642
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 2: my alcohol, ADDICTION i almost did the same. Thing my

1643
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: wife interrupted. ME i tried to make up some stupid

1644
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: reason WHY i was standing in the backyard with my.

1645
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: Gun she didn't buy. It she threatened to call my.

1646
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Dad it's embarrassing to talk about. IT i feel so

1647
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: ashamed and scared THAT i almost did. That no one

1648
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 2: else knows THAT i was that. Close this is the

1649
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: part that really struck me of this. Text two parts.

1650
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 2: Here number. ONE i took my dog on quote our last.

1651
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 2: WALK i was crying my eyes out the whole. Way

1652
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: three different people stopped to pet my, dog but not

1653
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 2: one of them asked me WHY i was. CRYING i

1654
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: legitimately thought no one, cared even in the presence of my.

1655
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 2: TEARS i GUESS i can open up this to. You

1656
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 2: because we don't actually know each, other that right there

1657
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: shows at its core the human element of who we

1658
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: are and what we should. BE i don't mean, ME

1659
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: i mean the vulnerability of the person that texted me

1660
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:20,640
Speaker 2: that walking his dog and having the epiphany of realizing

1661
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 2: that as people stop and are consumed by the cuteness

1662
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 2: of the. Dog they don't see the pain in the,

1663
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: person the person that's standing right next to. Them and

1664
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 2: the second part of that OF i GUESS i can

1665
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 2: tell you this because we don't really know each. Other

1666
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 2: i've always said that's why people talk on, airplanes because it's, like,

1667
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 2: oh here's Somebody i'm never going to see, again and

1668
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: it's like this open forum chamber for two and a

1669
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 2: half hours and they tell you. Everything sometimes that. Works

1670
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: sometimes it works to tell something to people when you

1671
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: know that like they won't, judge or that they can be.

1672
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Objective they don't know the other people that have me.

1673
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Upset but the biggest thing THAT i took from that

1674
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 2: was walking the dog and people not recognizing the pain in,

1675
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: someone which only then furthered that person's thought that they

1676
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 2: were alone in their.

1677
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: Pain so it's.

1678
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: Easy for us to say to, people you should know

1679
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 2: you're not, alone you should know there's another. Answer but in,

1680
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 2: reality maybe we also ourselves should know that people that

1681
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 2: are alone sometimes feel that way for a, reason and

1682
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 2: maybe it's our job to simply, say how you, doing.

1683
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: How's your day. Going and when you say that to a.

1684
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: Stranger especially in today's, world we're so caught up in

1685
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 2: our own, Narcissism we're so caught up in our own

1686
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 2: social media, profile we're so caught up in our own

1687
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 2: victories that sometimes we fail to see the losses of somebody.

1688
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Else and, maybe just maybe when you say to, somebody

1689
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 2: how are, you and you say it as a euphemism for,

1690
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 2: Hello but if they, stop and they take that crack

1691
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 2: of the door to then tell you how they really,

1692
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: are just for thirty, seconds give it the listen to

1693
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:20,759
Speaker 2: simply Say i'm sorry to hear. That is there anything

1694
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 2: you think can be? Done and simply let, someone even

1695
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 2: if you don't know, them know, that in, fact they're not.

1696
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 2: Alone and it's easy for us to say to somebody

1697
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 2: and people who are, struggling, hey there's an, Answer but

1698
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: maybe sometimes we also should recognize that that answer might

1699
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 2: simply be us showing a line of. Communication And Rondell

1700
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: moore was an unbelievable football player who gave That Ohio state,

1701
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 2: game The Tyler trent, game the push on the sideline

1702
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 2: Of Ohio state and then keeping that play alive and

1703
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: scoring a touchdown and putting that game away and being

1704
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 2: a dynamic player that led him to GO nfl after

1705
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 2: three years and become a high draft pick of The

1706
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 2: Arizona cardinals forty. Ninth, OVERALL i believe all of those

1707
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: things are, wonderful but that doesn't mean that we know

1708
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: who the person was inside the, helmet and sometimes maybe

1709
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: we need to look at more than just the external

1710
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: of the. Uniform Brian nubert covered The Purdue indiana basketball

1711
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 2: game On friday. Night big win for The boilers And.

1712
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: Mackie but it doesn't get any easier now this, Week

1713
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: Michigan state is up. Next newbert joins, us, next is

1714
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 2: this what we've? Decided this Is Brian nubert's theme?

1715
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 1: Song?

1716
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 3: Correct haven't we done? This we have done this song.

1717
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 3: Before that's WHAT i.

1718
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 1: Mean he's a huge. Fan right.

1719
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 2: WHEN i Think Brian, nubert you know they got That

1720
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: bourbon And Bear bourbon And Beyond bourbon And Beyond Music

1721
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 2: festival In, louisville it's like one hundred and ninety five.

1722
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Bands have you seen?

1723
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 2: THAT i haven't seen him A whodi's one of the

1724
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 2: DAYS i Think Foo fighters are one of the. Days,

1725
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 2: cracker who's kind of, underrated is one of the DAYS

1726
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 2: i Think i'd like to go With newberg just Because

1727
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: i've met that guy is basically rocks out. Right Ryan

1728
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 2: nuberg joins us now And i'm sure thrilled to be doing.

1729
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 2: So on The Java House Colbrew coffee guest, Line, Uh,

1730
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 2: brian are you? A are YOU? A go to the

1731
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 2: concert stand in the, front throw your cup of yeurine

1732
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: through the crowd like you're in An oasis mosh pit

1733
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 2: kind of.

1734
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 5: Guy i'm not very. FUN i just kind of. Watch

1735
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 5: BUT i have to say THAT i. Am i've worked

1736
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 5: all these years to get the music AND i could.

1737
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 5: NOT i could. NOT i feel so validated right now

1738
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 5: THAT i finally have theme music and that Is It's.

1739
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 5: Jeffer some starship only adds to the PRIDE i feel

1740
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 5: in myself right. Now so thank, You.

1741
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 2: Jaz we, do we, can AND i do all of

1742
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: this even AND I i hate to admit.

1743
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: THIS i hate to admit.

1744
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 2: This you know when somebody will say to you like,

1745
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: Hey like people will say to, me you, know you

1746
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 2: remind me of so and, so and they'll mention some

1747
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: actor or something And i'm, like, no. That like my

1748
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 2: dad told me as a young, kid you, know before

1749
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 2: you tell someone they look like someone make sure that

1750
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 2: it's someone that like. It you, know you wouldn't go

1751
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: up to somebody and says, Anyway i've told you look Like.

1752
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 2: Shrek you know you wouldn't say that to, somebody, Right,

1753
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 2: so but but AND i. Don't and, Listen, brian my

1754
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 2: own confession. Here i'm not hip enough to even know

1755
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 2: who the comedian was that was at The pacer game

1756
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 2: the other. Night but The pacers posted that there was

1757
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 2: a celebrity there and you quote tweeted it saying or

1758
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 2: inferring that it looked kind of like. Me and THEN

1759
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: i looked at, it And i'm, LIKE i hate to admit.

1760
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 2: This you might be right on this, one, right it's a.

1761
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 5: Compliment that guy's a very handsome man at yestermate and

1762
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 5: very very, funny so that that was not meant as a,

1763
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 5: like hey, man you look Like Saddam hussein or something like.

1764
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: That, yeah at the time they found him too, write

1765
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 1: which is even.

1766
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Worse, Okay, brian let's get too. Well thank you for the.

1767
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 2: Compliment by the, way that's why that's why you have theme.

1768
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: Music what did we, learn if, anything From purdue On?

1769
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 2: Saturday what were they able to do that had eluded

1770
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 2: them in other, games, notably say The michigan Game.

1771
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 5: FRIDAY i Said, Saturday, Friday friday. Late, well it ended Around,

1772
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 5: saturday so you're not. Wrong it was an eight o'clock.

1773
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 5: Game so, ANYWAY i think what was underscored more so than,

1774
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 5: learned was That hey produced still pretty, good you, know

1775
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 5: AND i Think, michigan you, know is a super, team

1776
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 5: AND i think they came in and looked like a super.

1777
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 5: Team AND i think that you, Know, purdue its reality

1778
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 5: has been more along the lines of what it did At,

1779
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 5: maryland what it did At, iowa what it did you,

1780
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,919
Speaker 5: know At, nebraska and then what it did At indiana

1781
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 5: versus what happened Against. Michigan SO i think we just

1782
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 5: kind of it was just kind of validated That hey

1783
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 5: produced still pretty good, here and don't forget about. THEM i,

1784
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 5: know they're out of The big ten race more or

1785
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 5: less or they are absolutely out of The big ten,

1786
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 5: race and that's obviously disappointing For, purdue and you, know

1787
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 5: that was one of their goals that constitutes you, know,

1788
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 5: failure so to. Speak BUT i think they're still pretty,

1789
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 5: good AND i think they kind of flexed all their

1790
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 5: muscles Against. Indiana what it really, did, too was just

1791
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 5: sort of also underscore the the maddening circumstances of that

1792
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 5: FIRST iu, Game like it just didn't make any sense

1793
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 5: that they, wouldn't you, know have brought their best in that,

1794
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 5: game and they just kind of went into a coma

1795
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 5: there and in the middle of the first, half and

1796
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 5: it really was kind of. Inexplicable and that's. That AND

1797
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 5: i guess the final few minutes of THE ucla game

1798
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 5: are a couple of the moments that are you, know

1799
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 5: produce really going to kind of rue when all of

1800
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 5: a sudden done here after this, Season i'd, imagine.

1801
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 1: Did you, Ever, BRIAN i think you AND i have discussed,

1802
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: this and If i've asked you this fifty, TIMES i.

1803
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Apologize have you seen THE tv Show The?

1804
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 5: WIRE i Have i'm Good actually halfway through season four

1805
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 5: on my probably fifth start to finish rewatch.

1806
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: IT'S i, mean it is.

1807
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: Amazing one of the things About The wire that it

1808
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 2: was probably my second go round where it really clicked

1809
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 2: for me on this and for those unfamiliar with, It The,

1810
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 2: wire which was ON hbo fabulous, show but it profiles

1811
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 2: the gang, life amongst other things In, baltimore and it

1812
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 2: also profiles some of the kids in the public school

1813
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 2: In baltimore And. Brian when you watch, it you realize

1814
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: that each of the adult characters that you see there

1815
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 2: is the waiting in the. Wings they're showing you these

1816
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 2: kids that are fifth and sixth grade, boys and you

1817
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 2: realize that they are going to grow into the next,

1818
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: version the next generation of the adult characters that you're. Seeing,

1819
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 2: right it's a bad approach for me to make the Comparison,

1820
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,560
Speaker 2: Purdue but one of the things About purdue basketball that

1821
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 2: has always impressed me is that they have continuity of

1822
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 2: roster where you can see players being groomed that they're

1823
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 2: going to be the immediate next in line for those

1824
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: that are on their way. Out AND i thought we

1825
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 2: saw that to a very good level On friday night

1826
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 2: With mayor finally showing that he is ready to step

1827
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 2: in Once Braden smith passes that torch to, him AND

1828
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 2: i thought that was the best.

1829
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 1: That we have seen him. Play do you agree with?

1830
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 5: That, YEAH i think he's shown flashes all year. Long

1831
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 5: he just doesn't get much of an opportunity to expand

1832
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 5: those flashes because they Need Braden smith in the Game

1833
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 5: he's been a really good job playing next To Braden

1834
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 5: smith all year. LONG i think he's played a variety

1835
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 5: of roles For. PURDUE i think he's gotten much better

1836
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 5: defensively than he was when you first got To. Purdue

1837
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 5: AND i think expectations were pretty modest for him, defensively

1838
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,680
Speaker 5: but he's really held his own. DEFENSIVELY i think his

1839
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 5: size and strength show up at the defensive end of the.

1840
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 5: FLOOR i think he's got as an offensive, Player he's

1841
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 5: got a lot of What Braden smith's, got except he's

1842
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 5: six foot, four two hundred some. Pounds next, Year purdue's

1843
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 5: going to give him the ball and he's going to

1844
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 5: become a. Star AND i think you, saw now obviously

1845
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 5: the game was decided by the time That omermre generated

1846
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 5: a lot of his, productivity but you saw the skill,

1847
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 5: set and you saw what he can do with the

1848
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 5: ball in his hands and when he kind of has

1849
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 5: free reign to kind of do his. Thing AND i

1850
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 5: think that that's what you're going to see From purdue next.

1851
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 5: Year and you, know for for a decade plus, now

1852
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 5: people have been, saying, oh you, Know purdue's going to

1853
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 5: fall off the map as soon as so and so's,

1854
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 5: gone or so and so's, gone or so And so's,

1855
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,919
Speaker 5: gone and yet some other so and so keeps, ascending,

1856
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 5: Right AND i think next, year when you look at

1857
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 5: produced roster on, paper assuming everyone's, back which is you,

1858
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 5: know the qualifier we have to throw out with every

1859
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 5: team every. Year now you're looking at guys Like Omer,

1860
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 5: Meyer Daniel, jacobson guys who stand to make pretty big

1861
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 5: jumps from this year to, Next Jakari, harris C. J.

1862
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 5: Cox pty's gonna have a good team again next. YEAR

1863
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 5: i think Got Kayden pierce out of the portal ready

1864
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 5: filling the big. Knee Jack benner is gonna be a

1865
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 5: really good player At. Perdue AND i Think purdy's going

1866
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 5: to have a really good team again next, year provided

1867
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 5: all all of these assets. Remain AND i don't know

1868
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 5: if they're gonna have like the first Team All american

1869
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 5: they've had every year coming into the, season like they

1870
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 5: have With Braden smith And Caleb swan again and on

1871
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 5: and On jade And Ivy Carson, edwards et, cetera et.

1872
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 5: Cetera BUT i think they're gonna have a really good.

1873
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 2: Team do you See meyer as a pure point or

1874
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: can he play it the thing about him to, me that's,

1875
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 2: intriguing And i'm going on much smaller doses of seeing

1876
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 2: him play than, You. Brian Brian nuber by the, Way

1877
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Golden black is our. Guest can he can he play

1878
01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 2: a couple of different? Roles in other, words can he

1879
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 2: situationally fill void of Both smith And? Lawyer or AM

1880
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 2: i giving his outside shooting too much?

1881
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 5: CREDIT i think he came To purdue AND i think

1882
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 5: PEOPLE i think one of the questions was how is

1883
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 5: he going to handle shooting the. Ball he's always had

1884
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 5: the ball in his, hands so playing Mister Braiden, smith

1885
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 5: he's had to acclimate to being more of an off the,

1886
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 5: ball catch and shoot sort of. Guy and he's shooting

1887
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 5: forty plus. Percent so it's been a, strength not just

1888
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 5: it hasn't been a. Question it's been a. STRENGTH i

1889
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 5: think next year he's going to have opportunities to create for.

1890
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 5: Himself he's going to have opportunities to create for everybody.

1891
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 5: Else and what he's shown this year when he comes

1892
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 5: in and basically does What Fletcher lawyer does next To Braden,

1893
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 5: smith you can Put Luke gurdle out there next year

1894
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 5: at Point. Guard you can move him off the ball

1895
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 5: if need. Be that, said you've Got Jakari, Harris you've

1896
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 5: Got Antoine west coming out of red, Shirt you've GOT. Cj,

1897
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 5: Cox so you've got a pretty stock. Backcourt SO i

1898
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 5: don't know if you necessarily need one guy to play

1899
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 5: a bunch of different roles like you have this year

1900
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 5: to a certain, extent BUT i think that he can

1901
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 5: do a lot of different, things AND i think it's

1902
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 5: one of those deals Where purdue's going to want to

1903
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 5: put him in positions to. Score and you, Know purdue

1904
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 5: Uses Braden smith a lot off the. Ball they HAVE.

1905
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 5: Cj cox Or Jakari harris or whoever it might, be

1906
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 5: bring the ball up and they Start Braiden smith off

1907
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 5: the ball a to take a little bit of wear

1908
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,519
Speaker 5: and tear off. Him but also because he's so good

1909
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 5: sprinting in the actions that they can do that sort

1910
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 5: of thing with Olmer meyer too next year, Too SO

1911
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 5: i would imagine he will basically be produced primary ball,

1912
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 5: handler BUT i think they can probably do a lot

1913
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 5: of different stuff with.

1914
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: Him they probably, Will, brian when you look at that,

1915
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: Game Brian nibertt is my. Guest he's on The joba.

1916
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 2: House colbrew coffee guest, line was that just the medicine

1917
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 2: That purdue. Needed AND i don't mean getting a win

1918
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 2: and a win over your, rival but to have one

1919
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: of those games where just AND i think about That

1920
01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 2: meyer stretch where all of a, sudden you, know they

1921
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 2: had that one, play they get a, rebound they come,

1922
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 2: down they kick it back, out he pulls up from you,

1923
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 2: know ten feet behind the. Line just everything went their,

1924
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 2: way you, know and the crowd's going. Crazy is that

1925
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 2: the Medicine purdue needed to just kind of get out of?

1926
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 2: It and it sounds crazy to say they're funk because

1927
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 2: they're obviously still a top three, Seed but did that.

1928
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 1: Redirect them a little?

1929
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 5: BIT i think it was probably. CATHARTIC i Think perdue

1930
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 5: would tell, you, hey we're still pretty. Good you, know

1931
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 5: we've won five or six other than The michigan, game

1932
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 5: and you, know things like, that whatever the number actually.

1933
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 5: Is But perdue would look pretty good in the games Around.

1934
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 5: Michigan it just got put in its place by a super.

1935
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 5: Team and you, know For perdue to have lost three

1936
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 5: home games this, year that's kind of. Jarring AND i

1937
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 5: think it was PROBABLY i keep using more, cathartic but

1938
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 5: it probably felt good to have one of Those Maci

1939
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 5: aerina moments again where you just split somebody on your home,

1940
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 5: floor and that it Was. INDIANA i don't know how

1941
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 5: big a deal that is, anymore but That purdue you,

1942
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 5: know had with the senior, class had kind, of you,

1943
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 5: know been pretty average AGAINST iu in its. Career you,

1944
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 5: know they had to win this.

1945
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: Game, now hang, on did elaborate on when you say

1946
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: you don't know how much a big how big a

1947
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 1: deal that is?

1948
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 5: Anymore, Well produce got guys who grew up In indiana who,

1949
01:46:18,479 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 5: actually you, know this was important to. Them indiana's got

1950
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 5: a lot of guys who just came out of the

1951
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 5: portal and this is not really something they probably look

1952
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 5: forward to their whole. Lives so that's kind of WHAT

1953
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 5: i mean by. That it's going to be a DIFFERENT

1954
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,839
Speaker 5: iu team every. Year that's what they were doing before

1955
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 5: the coaching, change and that's what they're going to be

1956
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,719
Speaker 5: doing after the coaching, change because they're going to recruit.

1957
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 5: Nationally they're going to recruit a lot in the. Portal

1958
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 5: once you have a coaching, change you have to fill a,

1959
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 5: roster and you fill a roster with one and two year,

1960
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 5: guys and when those guys, leave you, know you aren't

1961
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 5: going to sit here and, hey let's recruit ten high

1962
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 5: school guys and just bring them up and have a

1963
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 5: rebuilding gear every now and. Then you can't really do

1964
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 5: that in college basketball and. More that's How purdue is doing.

1965
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,639
Speaker 5: It BUT i don't know if places Like indiana are

1966
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 5: going to do. That they're going to bring in a

1967
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 5: lot of guys from national, Places SO i don't know

1968
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 5: if the built in investment isn't necessarily there on their

1969
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 5: end of. It that's not right or, wrong BUT i

1970
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 5: just think it's the way it, is and it kind

1971
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 5: of makes me wonder if you, Know, purdue with these,

1972
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 5: seniors has had the burden of the rivalry in their,

1973
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 5: career Whereas indiana can just kind of go out and.

1974
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 5: Play AND i sort of wonder if maybe that's part

1975
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 5: of the reason Why purdue has not played well In

1976
01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 5: bloomington with these. Guys and you, Know purdue had to

1977
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 5: win that game in Mac, arena did their night just

1978
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:37,759
Speaker 5: to finish five hundred in these seniors career Against indiana

1979
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 5: When purdue has been the marketly better team all of

1980
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:44,439
Speaker 5: those years, Basically so that was probably part of the.

1981
01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 5: CATHARSIST i keep referring to About preduy winning that game

1982
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 5: the way they did it On Friday, night because At

1983
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 5: purdue how you play Against, indiana and At indiana how

1984
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 5: you play Against. Purdue that's part of legacy with. Seniors

1985
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 5: and you, Know purdue is was a little bit complicated

1986
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 5: there and still finishing five. Hundred it's still probably a

1987
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 5: little bit unfulfilling given The gulf and the rivalry here

1988
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 5: the last couple of, years but pretty needed that one.

1989
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 5: Bad you, know four and four is a lot better,

1990
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 5: than you, know whatever it would have been otherwise three and.

1991
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 5: WHATEVER i can't think off the top of my head.

1992
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 2: Real, Quick, brian when you look at this year in

1993
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 2: THE Ncaa tournament AND i realize you probably haven't, said you,

1994
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 2: know you're focused On.

1995
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 1: PURDUE i get.

1996
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: It but just from a glance over or a bird's

1997
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 2: eye view of college, basketball off the top of your,

1998
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: head just shoot me a. Number how many teams do

1999
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,799
Speaker 2: you think there are that realistically it would not surprise

2000
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 2: you if they win the national championship in The big.

2001
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 2: Ten no in the. Country, uh can we go ten to?

2002
01:48:50,920 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 5: Twelve Duke, Arizona Houston, Illinois, michigan Uh Iowa, State Irish.

2003
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 5: STATE i think they're in. There it's such a randomized,

2004
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 5: event you, know it's just who gets hot at the right.

2005
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 5: Time and you, know Had Purdue purdue made the final,

2006
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 5: four as you're aware a couple of years, ago AND

2007
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 5: i thought had HAD Nc state Beaten perdue, SOMEHOW i

2008
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 5: thought that would have completely invalidated the title Because yukon

2009
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 5: And perdue were the best two teams all year. LONG

2010
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 5: Nc state just gets on this random heater and they're

2011
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 5: in the final. Four, NOW i understand that's the nature

2012
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 5: of single elimination, play but at the same, time championship,

2013
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 5: events in my, opinion should reflect the entire season in some.

2014
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 5: Capacity and that was it was justice all told that

2015
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 5: it Was purdue In yukon because they were the two

2016
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 5: best teams in the, Country but that fluke almost snuck in,

2017
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 5: there and that was a. Fluke Se state was about

2018
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 5: to fire as. Coach they just randomly got, hot ran

2019
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 5: through a bunch of teams one way or. Another you

2020
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 5: look at the national title Of virginia. One virginia was

2021
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,360
Speaker 5: the best team in the, country, probably but look at

2022
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 5: all the circumstances that had to go.

2023
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:13,799
Speaker 2: Right for them to do, that it was it defied

2024
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 2: logic claw back just to Be Gardner webb in round, one.

2025
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:20,560
Speaker 5: Right, yeah in some cases it defied, physics considering the

2026
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 5: way they Beat. Purdue so it's just so much luck is.

2027
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 5: Involved the three, pointer, obviously is the great equalizer in college.

2028
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 5: Basketball somebody could have a horrible shooting, game somebody could

2029
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 5: have an unbelievable shooting, game and suddenly the best team

2030
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 5: in the country is down two with five minutes to

2031
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 5: go against somebody they should be and you never know

2032
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 5: how it's gonna end from. There SO i just think

2033
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 5: it's such a randomized. Event it's almost in some cases

2034
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 5: it's almost an invalid. Championship BUT i don't think that's

2035
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 5: going to be the cases. HERE i think there's a

2036
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 5: bunch of really good teams who can who can be really.

2037
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 5: Good BUT i think it's probably a double digit number

2038
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 5: in terms of who can win it this. Year it

2039
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 5: just seems like a wide open.

2040
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:07,200
Speaker 2: Field, Lastly, BRIAN i wanted to give you the. Opportunity you,

2041
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 2: know WE i shared. TWICE i didn't Know Rondell. MOORE

2042
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,000
Speaker 2: i interviewed him once WHEN i was up there for

2043
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 2: football practice when he WAS i believe a. Sophomore he

2044
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 2: was a really, nice soft spoken young. Man disingenuous for

2045
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: any of us to say when we cover athletes that

2046
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 2: we truly get to know who they are or the

2047
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 2: essence of.

2048
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 1: Them but you, KNOW i know what.

2049
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: A terrible loss that is not just for the game

2050
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 2: of football and Southern indiana and the city Of louisville

2051
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 2: And New, albany but also The purdue family in. General

2052
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,799
Speaker 2: and wanted to give you the opportunity to just reflect

2053
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 2: On Rondell moore's impact On purdue football and you know

2054
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:47,840
Speaker 2: his legacy if you will For.

2055
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 5: Purdue, yeah as you, SAID i didn't know him. Really.

2056
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 5: Obviously the nature of college football nowadays is the media

2057
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 5: has kind of kept at arm's. LENGTH i also wasn't

2058
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 5: our day to day football person covered his. RECRUITMENT i

2059
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 5: talked to him a handful of. TIMES i dealt with

2060
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 5: him a little. BIT i dealt with some of the

2061
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 5: people around him a little. Bit just an unbelievable, athlete

2062
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 5: like a once in a lifetime kind of, athlete one

2063
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 5: of those guys who you, know greatness was kind of

2064
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 5: like his only, outcome and one of those athletes that

2065
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 5: that kind of kind of pushes the imagination more than

2066
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 5: it does. Interest and just somebody who kind of made

2067
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,839
Speaker 5: us rethink what possible, means you, know from a strength

2068
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 5: and speed perspective and his ability to make certain. Plays

2069
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,560
Speaker 5: but you don't really think about the football part of

2070
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 5: it at times like. This it's about the. People it's

2071
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 5: about the people around. Them it's about his, family it's

2072
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 5: about his, friends it's about you, Know Jeff brahm who

2073
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 5: recruited him and was really close with, Him JaMarcus, sheppard

2074
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 5: people like. That but At, purdue in terms of his

2075
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 5: his his Career, purdue you, know it was he carried.

2076
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 5: AWAY i mean all of these a lot of these

2077
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 5: guys come to college now and it's he's coming here

2078
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:04,600
Speaker 5: to go to THE. Nfl he's coming here to go

2079
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 5: to THE, nba and it's like their singular. Focus and

2080
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 5: when he got to THE, nfl, unfortunately you, know sports are,

2081
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 5: cruel and he suffered a couple of injuries. HERE i

2082
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 5: can't speculate on you, know what led to what is

2083
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 5: suspected that have happened, Happening but just a guy who

2084
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,679
Speaker 5: worked his whole life and worked harder than anyone did

2085
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 5: well in school when he you, know, probably let's be,

2086
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 5: honest didn't have to considering his, talent seemed to be

2087
01:53:35,320 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 5: good to, people seem to be respectful of. People he

2088
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 5: works his whole life to get to THE, nfl and

2089
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 5: he gets hurt very seriously. Twice and it just you,

2090
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:51,559
Speaker 5: know when dreams, die they've become, nightmares, Right and that's

2091
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 5: only assuming he was sort of on the. Cusp but

2092
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 5: that sort of, emptiness that sort of, feeling it's, just you,

2093
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 5: know people got to know that there's people there for,

2094
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 5: him and we got to check on each, other and you,

2095
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 5: know we're all in this. Together and you just wish

2096
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:11,919
Speaker 5: that when situations like this, happen you wish the reaction

2097
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 5: could occur before the permanent decision is, made so that

2098
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 5: people know how they how people feel about them and

2099
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 5: things like. That and you, know it's not really a

2100
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 5: topic That I'm i'm all that comfortable talking, about but it.

2101
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 5: Is it is a tragedy because there was a even without,

2102
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 5: football there was a place in the world For Ronde.

2103
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 5: MORE i mean there. Was he was an intelligent, Kid

2104
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 5: he worked, Hard he seemed to have a personality and

2105
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 5: so far AS i could, tell he had a big,

2106
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 5: smile he could engage with. People based on WHAT i

2107
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 5: could tell you had a lot of people love. Them

2108
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 5: and there was a place in the world For Rondell

2109
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 5: more whether without. Football so it's just absolutely, GUTTING i

2110
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 5: mean just. Gutting you, Know Proty well remember him. Forever

2111
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 5: highlights live, forever and the way he captivated people's, imagination

2112
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 5: that lives. Forever that's immortality and we should all be

2113
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 5: so lucky to it if we only GET x number

2114
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 5: of years to have made that indelible an impression on

2115
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 5: so many. People and you, know just thoughts with his,

2116
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 5: family thoughts with his, coaches thoughts with, him and, uh

2117
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 5: just a, gutting gutting.

2118
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 1: Deal, brian appreciate it as.

2119
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 2: Always purdue And Michigan state basketball, wise eight o'clock coming

2120
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 2: up On. Thursday all the coverage From brian At Golden.

2121
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 2: Black appreciate the time as, Always.

2122
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Brian Thanks, Jake brian nub joining us on The Java

2123
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: House Cold Brew coffee guest Line well said About Rondell,

2124
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 1: moore you, know just in terms of his.

2125
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 2: You, know and that's the thing THAT i think is

2126
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: so hard to grasp is that when you are you,

2127
01:55:55,000 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 2: know it is a permanent solution to a temporary. Problem

2128
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: BUT i, UNDERSTAND i totally understand why you get so

2129
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 2: engulfed within a depression there that you forget that it's

2130
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 2: temporary and it becomes almost impossible to grasp that it's

2131
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: temporary and not long. Term so that was very sad

2132
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 2: news About Rondell moore for. Certain and of course you

2133
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 2: know the comments THAT i made earlier echoing What brian

2134
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: said about looking out for each other The United, States,

2135
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 2: eddie you said you set the alarm, yesterday.

2136
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Right set the alarm to watch? It how about?

2137
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 2: Afterwards which was pretty, Cool but the guys just enjoying

2138
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 2: a couple of cold bruskies while sitting there doing the

2139
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 2: press conference and then being, like, hey you know, WHAT

2140
01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 2: i need another one over?

2141
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:51,720
Speaker 3: Here can you SAY i can't say THAT i blame?

2142
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: Him? No can you imagine HOW i?

2143
01:56:55,520 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 2: Mean first, off the level of dehydration you probably undergo

2144
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 2: when you're playing. HOCKEY i will hockey and. Wrestling, yeah

2145
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 2: hockey and wrestling have. Well AND i can add to this. Mascoting,

2146
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:18,280
Speaker 2: hockey wrestling and. Mascoting do you know what they have in?

2147
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 2: Common you sweat profusely like there is no smell on.

2148
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 2: Earth NOW i have fortunately not done like forensics, work

2149
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 2: but of the non you, know bad things happening to

2150
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 2: people division of. Life there is no smell like that

2151
01:57:42,600 --> 01:57:46,839
Speaker 2: of a hockey or wrestling locker. Room it is it is, awful,

2152
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 2: awful so the amount of sweat that those guys probably

2153
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 2: do over the course of one hockey. Game but you

2154
01:57:54,200 --> 01:57:57,760
Speaker 2: have just. Accomplished AND i, know winning The Stanley cup

2155
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 2: IS i get. IT i, mean winning The Stanley cup

2156
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:09,080
Speaker 2: is the krem no lakren for a hockey. Player but

2157
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 2: what happened, YESTERDAY i can't imagine what that feeling would be,

2158
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 2: like and especially when you consider.

2159
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 1: The symbolism of it being on the forty six year

2160
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: anniversary of the nineteen eighty win over of The, russians

2161
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 1: and yes that they had To you, know one of

2162
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: the Things, eddie that most jumped out of me as

2163
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: well in watching that yesterday.

2164
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 2: Was seeing the euphoria of The russian hockey team, yesterday

2165
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 2: seeing the explosion of, emotion the, camaraderie the rivalry between

2166
01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 2: The United, states you, know and obviously a lot of

2167
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 2: those guys on The canadian team teammates in THE nhl

2168
01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 2: level with those on The american, team and, Yes russia wasn't.

2169
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: THERE i, MEAN i get all, that and they're professionals.

2170
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 3: Now Brock, nelson for, example he's one of the key

2171
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 3: players in the on one of the lines For TEAM.

2172
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 3: Usa he is on The Colorado, avalanche And cal mccarr

2173
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 3: And nathan McKinnon On Team.

2174
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 2: Canada, YEAH i mean. So but in that, circumstance As

2175
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 2: i'm watching it AND i was watching their, emotion.

2176
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 1: It looked like.

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01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: That nineteen eighties film against The. Russians you, Know canada's

2178
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 2: wearing all red for crying out. Loud but and that's

2179
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 2: when it dawned on me how impressive and the guys

2180
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 2: yesterday get credit for again even TAKING i guess us

2181
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 2: back to thinking, this but it made me realize how

2182
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 2: impressive that nineteen eighty accomplishment was as, well because that

2183
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 2: level of emotion and to know that those Guys Jim

2184
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,480
Speaker 2: craig with the flag around, him And Mikey ruzioni and

2185
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 2: the rest of him And Herb brooks and the celebration

2186
02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,560
Speaker 2: that took, place but to know that they then had

2187
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 2: to come back two days later and play again and

2188
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 2: put that all in the back burner and still win

2189
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 2: a game Over.

2190
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 1: Finland in nineteen.

2191
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 2: Eighty so for yesterday to see that level of euphoria

2192
02:00:33,080 --> 02:00:35,440
Speaker 2: and know that the job was, done but it was

2193
02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:38,320
Speaker 2: on the forty six year anniversary of that nineteen eighty,

2194
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 2: win it was cool and to know those guys get

2195
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:48,120
Speaker 2: credit for bringing the goal, back but also for reminding

2196
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 2: all of us of that, magic BECAUSE i think it

2197
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 2: had been a long time since we have forgotten about

2198
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 2: that magic and that camaraderie and that.

2199
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,000
Speaker 1: Unity you, know you have.

2200
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 2: A A jewish player From florida that now plays In

2201
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 2: New jersey scoring the game winning, goal and it didn't,

2202
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 2: matter you, know, Theologically it didn't matter where he's, from

2203
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 2: didn't matter where he grew up versus where he plays,

2204
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 2: now didn't. Matter what mattered is that all of those

2205
02:01:18,720 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 2: guys were playing for The United states Of. America and,

2206
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 2: yes there was some political aspect to it after the,

2207
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:30,280
Speaker 2: fact depending on which way you want to ingest or

2208
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:35,800
Speaker 2: which lens you're looking. Through but that ability to discuss

2209
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 2: and or discord about that are exactly what make us

2210
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 2: different than every other country On, earth and that's why

2211
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:47,360
Speaker 2: it was great to see and be reminded of the

2212
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 2: fortune of being The United states Of America Big week In,

2213
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Big. One it is officially any White instagram. Week

2214
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 2: we only get a couple of, them and one of them's.

2215
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 2: Here we'll explain Next. Eddie we taking wagers on when

2216
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:11,160
Speaker 2: the little dusting of snow out there that's Underneath james's

2217
02:02:11,160 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 2: truck is going to be. Gone, no, no we're. Not

2218
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:20,840
Speaker 2: we knew that was a false, spring. Right we got

2219
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:22,000
Speaker 2: super excited about.

2220
02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 1: It it was.

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02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 2: Beautiful it was great out walking the monon and then boom.

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02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 3: High thirties tomorrow in the forties On, wednesday chance of Snow,

2223
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 3: thursday it looks Like friday fifty, Three saturday fifty, Seven, Sunday,

2224
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,080
Speaker 3: monday some snow high of low.

2225
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: FORTIES i, mean we're close to the to the.

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02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 2: End but this time of, year when you get to

2227
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 2: the end Of, february you know that means it's time

2228
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 2: for THE nfl.

2229
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 1: Combine hey, coach what's happening to? COACH a good? Coach,

2230
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 1: hey hey you? GOOD a bunch of guys in.

2231
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,960
Speaker 2: Everybody's got to wear everything with their team logo on, it,

2232
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 2: hat pull, over the, sweatpants the.

2233
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: Backpack gotta have it all, right.

2234
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,360
Speaker 2: And then you got to walk, around whether it Be

2235
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:20,360
Speaker 2: Saint elmo or pat atch you, Downtown, hey, coach you good.

2236
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 2: Coach lots of bro hugging going, On BUT i understand the.

2237
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 2: Combine and this will be my only, time at least

2238
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 2: today THAT i rant on.

2239
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: This which.

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02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:36,280
Speaker 3: Liquor is concerned the most?

2241
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Combine Week, boy that is a great, Question, turban that

2242
02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: is a great. Question coomber. Boy it's got to be

2243
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:54,200
Speaker 1: whiskey or, bourbon. RIGHT i don't know if you know

2244
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:58,600
Speaker 1: this or. Not all bourbons are, whiskeys not all whiskeys are.

2245
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 3: BOURBON i do recall that conversation With Jolie. Erickson that's.

2246
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:06,080
Speaker 2: Rad BUT i would think it's got to be one

2247
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 2: of those, two, Right it's got to be a brown

2248
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 2: liquor as opposed to tequila or. Rum the bourbon or,

2249
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:15,640
Speaker 2: whiskey and then beer would be up. There BUT i

2250
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:20,200
Speaker 2: think cigars and bourbons are more the, chore, right.

2251
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:23,280
Speaker 1: Old, fashions old. Fashions manhattan's the whole, deal, Right.

2252
02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah the the evolution of the combine would Be nick Says.

2253
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 2: Scotch scotch just gotten by pine sal. Another i'm, sorry Not.

2254
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 2: Scotch jen is the one that tastes like pine Sal

2255
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 2: scotch is a good call By. Nick that's also a good,

2256
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 2: Call scotch bourbon one of those, two but not a

2257
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 2: bad caller By.

2258
02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:50,200
Speaker 1: Nick but.

2259
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 2: This would BE i promise the only time today THAT

2260
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 2: i will go into this rant annual. Breakdown years, Ago

2261
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:09,360
Speaker 2: Tony dungee was with The. Bucks if that tells you

2262
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 2: how long Ago i'm. Talking WHEN i was working At channel.

2263
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:17,040
Speaker 2: Six every year the combine would happen and we'd, say,

2264
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 2: oh that's, right the combines in. Town we need to

2265
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:23,840
Speaker 2: do a story on the fact that combines. Here but

2266
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 2: there was nothing really That, well what are we gonna. Do,

2267
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 2: well let's just go down and let's try to find

2268
02:05:31,560 --> 02:05:36,600
Speaker 2: somebody and interview them about the. Combine SO i walked

2269
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:39,880
Speaker 2: downtown With Otis, jones the photographer From channel, six And

2270
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 2: juice AND i walked around and we're, like, look we

2271
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 2: just got to find anybody that people would recognize as

2272
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 2: being from THE.

2273
02:05:44,640 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 3: Nfl make sure you have a bottle of hand sanitizer

2274
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 3: in your back.

2275
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 2: Pocket this was The Jerry jones did not flush the

2276
02:05:50,840 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 2: toilet story, right same same, Thing And Tony dungee is

2277
02:05:56,800 --> 02:06:00,000
Speaker 2: with The bucks And we Stopped Tony dungee Outside Union

2278
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 2: station and asked him a couple of questions and then

2279
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 2: walked through the convention. Center as close AS i could

2280
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:09,040
Speaker 2: get to the combine was The Jerry jones, saga Where

2281
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 2: Jerry jones was there as.

2282
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 1: Well the point being it was just a matter of.

2283
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 2: Getting an, interview a thirty second SoundBite from, somebody because

2284
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 2: that was as close as we could. Get because all

2285
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 2: you heard in those days about the combine was this

2286
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 2: is top, flight top, secret most important, stuff only scouts

2287
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 2: like nobody's allowed, in et. Cetera and then they realized

2288
02:06:33,040 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 2: they could monetize. It so some fifteen or so years,

2289
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 2: ago it was enter your name in a sweepstakes contest

2290
02:06:41,240 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 2: where you can win your chance to go to THE

2291
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:47,680
Speaker 2: Nfl combine and sit and wear a stopwatch around your

2292
02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:50,240
Speaker 2: neck and get a notepad and whatever else and act

2293
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 2: like a. Guru and they allowed in like one hundred

2294
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 2: people the first.

2295
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 1: Year then it was a. Thousand then they figured out

2296
02:06:56,800 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: we can make money on all.

2297
02:06:57,960 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 5: This what are we?

2298
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:02,160
Speaker 1: Doing what do we do? It and it went.

2299
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 2: From top Secret Fort Knox area fifty one level stuff

2300
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 2: to open it up and blow it. Out everybody every media,

2301
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:15,919
Speaker 2: person like everybody. Comes so then once we all saw

2302
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 2: how the sausage was, made which was it was a

2303
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 2: bunch of guys in tidy whiteies doing interviews and then

2304
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 2: running shuttle, drills and so then it became, no, no, no, no,

2305
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 2: No see that stuff that's not as important. Anyway what's

2306
02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:33,800
Speaker 2: important are the interviews and the Medical AND i do understand.

2307
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 2: THAT i totally get. It and that means that when

2308
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 2: you have a player that is of interest to, you

2309
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:45,800
Speaker 2: you get a chance to sit down with, them and

2310
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 2: those interviews are. Important the year that The colt said

2311
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,320
Speaker 2: the number one, pick and it was Between Ryan leaf

2312
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:54,320
Speaker 2: And Peyton Manning Ryan leaf and LATER i think it

2313
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 2: was clarified that it was a scheduling. Misunderstanding But Ryan

2314
02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:03,800
Speaker 2: leaf quote unquote stiff The colts and didn't do his

2315
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 2: interview and instead went and interviewed with The.

2316
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 1: BEARS i think it.

2317
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:13,560
Speaker 2: Was but the way in which that you know The and,

2318
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 2: again this is one of those stories that has a

2319
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 2: million layers to. It there is one version of the

2320
02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 2: story that on the way back from the combine to the,

2321
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 2: airport after being interviewed by The, Colts Peyton manning turned

2322
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 2: around To Jim mersay and said you can draft me

2323
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:37,160
Speaker 2: or you can pass on, me AND i will kick

2324
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 2: your tail for fifteen. Years some have said that was

2325
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:43,120
Speaker 2: said To Jim, irsay some have said that was said

2326
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 2: To Bill. Pullian some have, said you, know that wasn't

2327
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 2: said at. All but the point being the face to

2328
02:08:50,240 --> 02:08:55,280
Speaker 2: face that you, get the way that you can experience

2329
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,760
Speaker 2: and get understanding of a player based on.

2330
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 1: Just the interaction the.

2331
02:09:02,080 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 2: Interview that's very, important but also very important and why

2332
02:09:05,880 --> 02:09:10,680
Speaker 2: the combine continues to be At, indianapolis not just because it's,

2333
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 2: perfect perfect walking proximity for all of the, scouts all

2334
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:19,120
Speaker 2: of the coaches to be right here, downtown walking distance

2335
02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 2: to all of the, steakhouses all the places to. Go

2336
02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 2: all of that is, important but the immediately accessible MEDICAL

2337
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:33,480
Speaker 2: mri and facilities to be able to do all of

2338
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 2: it here from downtown in very close. Proximity and there

2339
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 2: have been players in the past that we've, learned you

2340
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:44,520
Speaker 2: know that basically like their life was saved because they

2341
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:48,360
Speaker 2: discovered in the combine process a heart.

2342
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,200
Speaker 1: Ailment or a you, know a.

2343
02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 2: CLOT i, mean there's a number of different things that

2344
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:56,880
Speaker 2: have happened to players that, yes it's terribly unfortunate in that,

2345
02:09:57,040 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 2: moment but in the, end you, know you look at

2346
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 2: it and you, go, man that might have been what

2347
02:10:02,120 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 2: saved that. Player but also finding out little things.

2348
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:05,440
Speaker 5: Like.

2349
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 1: You, know a shoulder surgery that a defensive end, had

2350
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 1: is it? Permanently you, know is it now? Healed is

2351
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 1: there scar? Tissue all of those things are such an

2352
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,840
Speaker 1: important part of the. Combine SO i think it's a

2353
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:25,800
Speaker 1: lot less now about a guy coming out and throwing

2354
02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:29,200
Speaker 1: perfect passes and elevating his stock or a guy running

2355
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 1: the forty and doing a. Fourth i've never, understood nor

2356
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: WILL i ever till the cows come, home understand the

2357
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:40,360
Speaker 1: significance of the high jump ability or forty yard dash

2358
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:42,760
Speaker 1: ability of a right guard out Of TEXAS a AND.

2359
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 2: M until the day comes where it's fourth and one

2360
02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 2: and it's determined by whether or not your right guard

2361
02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:54,240
Speaker 2: can outrun somebody in the forty yard. Dash i've never understood,

2362
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:58,360
Speaker 2: that BUT i guess it gives you glimpse into how

2363
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:00,680
Speaker 2: it can translate for a. Player and then again you

2364
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:04,600
Speaker 2: have the guy out Of Boston college years ago that figured, out,

2365
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:08,520
Speaker 2: okay what are the, immeasurables what are the things they

2366
02:11:08,560 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 2: measure in the combine That i'm going to do AND

2367
02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 2: i KNOW i can't. PLAY i KNOW i can't. Play

2368
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 2: but IF i can master the high, jump the shuttle,

2369
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 2: drill the forty yard dash and the side, Decide i'm

2370
02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 2: going to elevate myself and you become a workout. Warrior

2371
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:28,840
Speaker 2: AND i think teams have learned from that as. Well But,

2372
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:31,560
Speaker 2: eddie for, you the biggest question mark you, have or

2373
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:33,520
Speaker 2: the biggest sign of intrigue.

2374
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 1: In this, combine if at, all if, anything would be what.

2375
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:40,400
Speaker 3: How does The Aidan fisher test good war on? Field

2376
02:11:40,520 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 3: how Does Elijah surratt look on the field in these?

2377
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:47,800
Speaker 3: Workouts because we know primarily with those two they're more

2378
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 3: instinctual and they are more about reading what is in

2379
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:55,400
Speaker 3: front of them versus the gifts and traits that they,

2380
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:58,920
Speaker 3: have whether that is their their forty yard nash, time

2381
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:02,240
Speaker 3: their shuttle, time, there ten yard, split, whatever three cone,

2382
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:04,160
Speaker 3: drill whatever the case may.

2383
02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:05,080
Speaker 1: Be they're they're.

2384
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:09,200
Speaker 3: More instinctual than they, are especially in the case of

2385
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:11,640
Speaker 3: serrat than they are about the traits.

2386
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 1: Themselves part of that will be done at The pro, days, Right,

2387
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:17,040
Speaker 1: YEAH i believe all of.

2388
02:12:17,080 --> 02:12:19,360
Speaker 3: THAT i think the Only hoosier not going through any

2389
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:20,480
Speaker 3: of the workouts Is Fernando.

2390
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: Mendoza but well he's doing it At Pro, Day that's

2391
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:25,080
Speaker 1: What i'm. Saying, Correct, yes.

2392
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 2: And, so AND i would assume that that will also

2393
02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 2: be the prime time for him to work Out sarat And.

2394
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:37,840
Speaker 2: Cooper you, know that's always been the deal with quarterbacks

2395
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 2: is when they go through Their Pro, day they like

2396
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:42,240
Speaker 2: to have their receivers, there not just because of their

2397
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 2: own timing and, trust and it helps for them to

2398
02:12:44,360 --> 02:12:46,480
Speaker 2: feel comfortable and throwing the ball, around but it's a

2399
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 2: great service to their wide receiver as.

2400
02:12:48,080 --> 02:12:48,280
Speaker 1: Well.

2401
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely that's What fernando. SAID i can't remember When fernando.

2402
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 3: Said it was probably like two weeks ago at this

2403
02:12:54,640 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 3: point he mentioned that he was only going to throw

2404
02:12:56,920 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 3: out As pro. Day AND i THINK i just think

2405
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 3: it's it's hilariou stick that we get all these reports

2406
02:13:01,960 --> 02:13:04,760
Speaker 3: over the. Weekend according to sources from anam And doz

2407
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 3: is not throwing at the Common we've known this for two,

2408
02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 3: weeks of, course why are we just NOW.

2409
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:12,680
Speaker 1: I can confirm what was first reported a month. Ago,

2410
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 1: yes by the by the you.

2411
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:17,560
Speaker 3: Know word from mouth from n And doze himself saying

2412
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:20,000
Speaker 3: that he's not throwing out the, combine but, yeah he said.

2413
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 3: That you, know he's looking forward to throwing out his

2414
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:23,880
Speaker 3: pro jay because he really wants to help out you,

2415
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:29,280
Speaker 3: Know Riley, Nowakowski Omar Cooper junior roaming Himby Elijah surat

2416
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:31,720
Speaker 3: and all those guys that'll be out there on the

2417
02:13:31,720 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 3: field with him that he, played you, know this remarkable

2418
02:13:34,640 --> 02:13:36,520
Speaker 3: historical season with for The Indiana.

2419
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:40,480
Speaker 1: Hoosiers The Derek schultz is in FOR j AND v.

2420
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:44,160
Speaker 2: TODAY i did not realize that he may be a

2421
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 2: little bit tardy, today which means you might get a

2422
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:48,840
Speaker 2: little bit more of me, today Which i'm, sure well

2423
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 2: that would be a detriment except that it means less Of,

2424
02:13:51,440 --> 02:13:54,960
Speaker 2: derek so that's. Good but the reason is. Understandable we'll

2425
02:13:55,000 --> 02:14:00,080
Speaker 2: explain NEXT j AND v out, Today Derek, schultz this

2426
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 2: will be in for. Him we may carry over a

2427
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:08,120
Speaker 2: little bit, because and this is very, Understandable derek was

2428
02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 2: on his way down and has now been held because

2429
02:14:12,080 --> 02:14:16,880
Speaker 2: he is Near Crown Hill cemetery and the services are.

2430
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 2: UNDERWAY i don't know where things stand just in terms

2431
02:14:19,720 --> 02:14:23,440
Speaker 2: of the, procession whether it is before or after For

2432
02:14:23,680 --> 02:14:28,000
Speaker 2: beachgrove police Officer Brian, elliott, who of course was fallen

2433
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:31,600
Speaker 2: in the line of, duty AND i had not mentioned

2434
02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:35,880
Speaker 2: that story on the. SHOW i don't.

2435
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:40,280
Speaker 1: Believe but you, know let me tell you WHAT i

2436
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:44,240
Speaker 1: know About Beech. Grove you know a couple of.

2437
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:51,360
Speaker 2: Things Katie gerald's to this day is the most literally

2438
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:57,800
Speaker 2: the best Athlete i've seen in high school athletics versus

2439
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,360
Speaker 2: their competition of anybody in the Time i've been.

2440
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 1: Here AND i went to see.

2441
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 2: HER i remember when she was playing At beechgrove and

2442
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 2: my dad wanted to see her, play and we went

2443
02:15:08,840 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 2: To Southport Field house to watch. Her AND i remember

2444
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:16,160
Speaker 2: the entire student body Of Beach grove channing you can't guard.

2445
02:15:16,240 --> 02:15:19,400
Speaker 2: Her and THEN i realized it was more than just

2446
02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 2: the student. Body it was like the entire community Of.

2447
02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 2: Beechgrove and you, Know Mike chapel is a Proud beechgrove.

2448
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:32,480
Speaker 2: Guy Ron, green who ran the media center at The

2449
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Motor, speedway is a Proud beechgrove. Guy Jason Hammer

2450
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:39,760
Speaker 2: Jason hammer is A beachgrove guy and related To Katie.

2451
02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 2: Gerald's and in addition to, that you Know Mark jane's

2452
02:15:44,440 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 2: taught At.

2453
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:46,720
Speaker 1: Beechgrove but.

2454
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:53,640
Speaker 2: The one thing THAT i realized in that moment in seeing,

2455
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 2: this you, know support For Katie jeralds in. Particular Beach

2456
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 2: grove is an interesting corner Of indianapolis because it's a

2457
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:09,680
Speaker 2: small area of, it but yet IT'S i think representative

2458
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 2: in many ways of what Makes indianapolis what it, is

2459
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 2: but notably what Makes indiana what it. Is i'm sure

2460
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:22,360
Speaker 2: that people that live In arkansas have an abundance of

2461
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:25,920
Speaker 2: pride about being From. Arkansas i'm sure people that live

2462
02:16:25,960 --> 02:16:28,360
Speaker 2: In tennessee have a pride about being From. Tennessee it's

2463
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:31,920
Speaker 2: probably true of every, state BUT i think it's more

2464
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:35,879
Speaker 2: so the pride about where you're from and who you

2465
02:16:35,959 --> 02:16:41,640
Speaker 2: are is probably even more significant or important to a

2466
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:49,640
Speaker 2: society when it is seen as something that you don't

2467
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:52,280
Speaker 2: feel like it's a love that's reciprocated outside of your.

2468
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:56,560
Speaker 2: Borders and by THAT i MEAN i think we know

2469
02:16:56,640 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 2: by living In indiana it's a pretty darn good place to,

2470
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:02,800
Speaker 2: live but we don't expect that people that live in

2471
02:17:02,879 --> 02:17:07,120
Speaker 2: warmer weather climates or places with more big cities or,

2472
02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:09,520
Speaker 2: whatever that they would be you, know that they would

2473
02:17:09,520 --> 02:17:12,560
Speaker 2: find an envy of being From, indiana which is why

2474
02:17:12,720 --> 02:17:14,960
Speaker 2: our pride in who we are and what we are

2475
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:22,760
Speaker 2: is even more. Important And Beach GROVE i think truly

2476
02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:26,000
Speaker 2: represents that that that neighborhood and that.

2477
02:17:26,320 --> 02:17:30,240
Speaker 1: Community, well yes it's part Of, indianapolis BUT i, mean

2478
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:30,760
Speaker 1: obviously it.

2479
02:17:30,720 --> 02:17:33,800
Speaker 2: Has its own police, department right the way that that

2480
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 2: community has rallied around and come together to Support Brian elliott's.

2481
02:17:42,120 --> 02:17:47,320
Speaker 2: Family the you, Know i've seen countless stories on the

2482
02:17:47,360 --> 02:17:53,000
Speaker 2: news of people lining up and Leaving Teddy bears and

2483
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:57,240
Speaker 2: contributions and do and being. There and it is going

2484
02:17:57,280 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 2: to be obviously very difficult For Brian elliott's young family

2485
02:18:02,680 --> 02:18:07,439
Speaker 2: when everybody kind of returns to their regularly scheduled program

2486
02:18:07,600 --> 02:18:12,040
Speaker 2: after all of the outpouring of this service and this terrible.

2487
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:18,959
Speaker 2: Loss BUT i commend the people Of Beach grove for

2488
02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:26,040
Speaker 2: showing in moments that were the worst and showing the

2489
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 2: best of. Us and by THAT i mean WHAT i

2490
02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 2: talked about today with The United States hockey, team the

2491
02:18:32,879 --> 02:18:36,600
Speaker 2: united nature of it, all the ability to gather, together

2492
02:18:36,920 --> 02:18:42,440
Speaker 2: to mourn, together to kind of put the arms around

2493
02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:50,119
Speaker 2: each other as a. COMMUNITY i Obviously i'm empathetic towards

2494
02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:52,400
Speaker 2: the community Of Beach grove that they have to go through,

2495
02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:56,560
Speaker 2: that but in terms of going about it in the

2496
02:18:56,600 --> 02:19:00,160
Speaker 2: way that shows the proper love towards the, fallen there's

2497
02:19:00,200 --> 02:19:03,320
Speaker 2: no community more capable of doing that than the chemistry

2498
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:06,240
Speaker 2: and the camaraderie and the pride that people In beechgrove.

2499
02:19:06,320 --> 02:19:10,119
Speaker 2: Have and we are a city and a state today

2500
02:19:10,879 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 2: that rally together to support and certainly offer condolences for

2501
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:17,520
Speaker 2: all of that