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Speaker 2: Wednesday at Maryland.

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Speaker 1: On the basketball side of things, Indiana winners last night

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Speaker 1: guest line the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers, Don Fisher,

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Speaker 1: DoD I'm assuming that you are absolutely thrilled with that

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Speaker 3: Well, it's even busier than you point out that, Jake.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be.

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Speaker 3: Doing the Maryland game.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to try and do the well, I will

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Speaker 1: Well listen, I mean it would be understood. But here's

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't like when you predict, because I don't

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I didn't predict that we're going to shock the

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm That's what I'm pointing out right.

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Speaker 1: I was right on it, man, I'm telling you right.

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Speaker 1: I know that at this point we're a broken record,

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Speaker 1: Don He had said Kurt Signetti, Don Fisher, my guest

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Speaker 3: I think just the one thing that strikes me right now,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can ploy the Oregon game the first

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Speaker 3: Well, it's the highlight of my career at Indiana. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And it's hard to believe that it would be you know,

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Speaker 1: Don enjoy it, soak it in and I certainly appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks all that, guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: On the Java House, Peel and Poor Guest Line, joining

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Speaker 2: Chap We've been.

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Speaker 1: Talking a lot over the course of today of I

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Speaker 5: Not really, I mean you talked about Jones and Pierce.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Those two guys are part of the future. They in

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Speaker 5: The only thing that struck us in the lot in

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Speaker 5: we talked to Mooney Warbs coming back from he's had

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Speaker 5: He said, I don't think I'm going to do that.

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Speaker 5: He said, I, if you're thinking about retiring, you've already retired.

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Speaker 5: And Mooney Ward told us he after the second concussion

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Speaker 5: That's the one that's struct him more than anything is

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Speaker 1: Years, chap I'm going to mention some individuals we now

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Speaker 1: Next, the guy that we just talked about in Alec

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Speaker 2: Pierce nine and a half.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Anthony richardson final year of his deal, well, one.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: I just think they in their mind somehow or another,

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Speaker 5: And it's only because the last couple times we've talked

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Speaker 1: Okay, the following players that I'm going to mention, like

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Speaker 4: Two.

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Speaker 1: Because you think he they've just moved on, or you

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Speaker 5: I think they'll they'll try to get younger at that

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Speaker 5: How many times we've tried to say, well, he's done

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Speaker 4: But now I come back to them. But five.

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Speaker 4: That fair, yeah, but you still have to do something.

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's and I don't mean as a backhanding compliment.

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Speaker 4: So got to have those guys.

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Speaker 5: But I five, and I think it either way, probably

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Speaker 4: But if he's back, I won't I won't be surprised.

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Speaker 1: The kicker situation is an interesting one because we know

437
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Speaker 1: obviously it's easy to forget this. You know, Spencer Schrader

438
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Speaker 1: got hurt at the beginning of the year in that

439
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Speaker 1: Raiders game. Pete Carroll, by the way, fired today in

440
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, not because of that, but because they interperformed.

441
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Speaker 1: But Blake Grupi, who I thought kicked well for them

442
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Speaker 1: down the stretch. Is he gone or do they create

443
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Speaker 1: a competition there?

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Speaker 5: Probably two or three only because I think when teams

445
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Speaker 5: start lining up their kickers for next year, maybe he

446
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Speaker 5: gets a look see from somebody. That won't surprise me.

447
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Speaker 5: Talk to Spencer Strader today and he's on target, he's

448
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Speaker 5: ahead of schedule, and he he will be their kicker,

449
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Speaker 5: you know, not by default, but he'll be the front

450
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Speaker 5: runner a kicker. And I just don't think the group

451
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Speaker 5: he will be available to him in the camp competition

452
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Speaker 5: because he proved, he proved when he was here that

453
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Speaker 5: in the right circumstances he's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The Eddie points out Michael Pittman Junior twenty nine million

456
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Speaker 1: next year, largest payroll on the team. It would be

457
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Speaker 1: a five million dollar dead cap hit if they were

458
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Speaker 1: to release him. In other words, they would still go

459
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Speaker 1: against their cap for what they're not getting in return

460
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Speaker 1: at five million. Is there a cost that he would

461
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Speaker 1: be willing to come back if there was a restructure.

462
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Speaker 5: Probably it would depend on a Normally, restructures don't mean

463
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Speaker 5: you're taking a pay cut, pushing money forward maybe in

464
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Speaker 5: an extension.

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Speaker 2: Backload here right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm not sure you can go to pitt

467
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Speaker 5: and say well, instead of twenty nine, how about fifteen?

468
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Speaker 5: He'd tell you the pound saying so. But it would

469
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Speaker 5: be detrimental to re sign Piers and let Pittman go.

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Speaker 5: I know we all wish Pittman was a little more

471
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Speaker 5: of something, but he's really he's dependent on he. I

472
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Speaker 5: know he hadn't he didn't finish the season strong. But

473
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Speaker 5: if you get rid of you get rid of pitt

474
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Speaker 5: you better have somebody in mind to bring in, because

475
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Speaker 5: then that puts too much of a load on Pierce

476
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Speaker 5: to do more than what he's been, and he's been

477
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Speaker 5: really good at what he does. I would think there's

478
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Speaker 5: playing more of a chance of a restructure, of maybe

479
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Speaker 5: a some kind of restructure hit to where he still

480
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Speaker 5: gets most of his money and you're not asking him

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Speaker 5: to take a massive pay because I don't think he

482
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Speaker 5: would take a pay cut, a massive pay cut.

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Speaker 1: The obvious question for Carl Ter say Gordon later that

484
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Speaker 1: we're going to hear is going to be you know

485
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Speaker 1: what went into the decision to retain Chris Ballard and

486
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Speaker 1: Shane Stike?

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Speaker 2: And what's the second most burning question.

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Speaker 5: I guess say, and what do you see the future

489
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Speaker 5: of the team?

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Speaker 4: Is this?

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Speaker 5: Well, no, the second one would be it is twenty

492
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Speaker 5: twenty six winner? Else is the playoffs?

493
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Speaker 4: Or else?

494
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Speaker 5: Did you did you do this with the idea that

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Speaker 5: you know? Cause remember she told us last in June that,

496
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Speaker 5: like her dad said, you know the things you have

497
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Speaker 5: to fix, is it you fix them or we're going

498
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Speaker 5: to blow it up next year? And we've all talked

499
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Speaker 5: about how it's going to be an easier It's never easy,

500
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Speaker 5: but it'll be an easier reset for somebody next year

501
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Speaker 5: if this coming season doesn't go well. Because you got

502
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Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of significant contracts up, you know,

503
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Speaker 5: the Quenton Nelson's and people like that, Pittman and Jonathan

504
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Speaker 5: Taylor and on and on. So uh, yeah, it's okay

505
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Speaker 5: you brought them back. And again the first question is why.

506
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's pretty simple, just why. But but then

507
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Speaker 5: it's did it come back with with a with the

508
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Speaker 5: cave at caveat that and you better make the playoffs?

509
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 5: Just just doing nine and eight. It's not going to

510
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Speaker 5: cut it. So that's and again, if I'm not mistaken,

511
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Speaker 5: Crystal will be in the last yervice contract.

512
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Speaker 4: It's never great to have a lame duck.

513
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Speaker 5: Anything seconds under contract for three more years. So why

514
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Speaker 5: and then are there is everybody back with a win

515
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Speaker 5: or else?

516
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Speaker 4: H demand?

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the big one, chap in terms of those

518
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Speaker 1: we're talking with, Mike Chapel of CBS four and WXA

519
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Speaker 1: and Fox fifty nine. In terms of those with the

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Speaker 1: Colts or around the colts for twenty twenty six one

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Speaker 1: to ten scale of return, how about this one, Mike Chapel, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'll be back house payment, the pet and my check

523
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Speaker 5: still my check's still clear from Fox fifty nine, CBS four.

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Speaker 4: Thank god.

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Speaker 5: You know, got great, great place to work and as

526
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Speaker 5: I'm serious, it's a great place to work for us.

527
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Speaker 5: So yeah, another couple of years and and then what

528
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Speaker 5: we'll say.

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Speaker 2: Now here's that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: We have a light detector that takes place here at

531
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Speaker 1: the station where when somebody is fibbing, it speeds their

532
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Speaker 1: voice up. And I believe that that's a great place

533
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Speaker 1: to work in that you're going to be back. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the house payment part. I think

535
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Speaker 1: the house is paid off.

536
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Speaker 4: Do you still have no time? You guys get that

537
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: sixty hit? I mean, this is, this is twenty twenty six.

538
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 4: For crying at lab.

539
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Speaker 5: I can give you my tech guy that I at

540
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: at and T and he can probably hit with you

541
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Speaker 5: guys out right now. I mean, this is this isn't

542
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Speaker 5: like nineteen eighty. But all this stuff so good? Lord,

543
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: why don't you guys enter the new world and gets

544
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Speaker 5: your equipment fixed?

545
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: If you can eat had affectionately too.

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Speaker 6: If you can hear how that sounded, cheez, you sound

547
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Speaker 6: like you sound like Alvin when he didn't get his

548
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 6: hula hoop for Christmas from the Chipmunks.

549
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Speaker 5: But as I said last week, I'm just glad I'm

550
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 5: able to give you guys some comic relief. And please

551
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: don't have this song on the air when I'm driving

552
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Speaker 5: down the road because I'll either drive them into a

553
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Speaker 5: Semini or something.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chap, we appreciate it as always. Man, you've

555
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Speaker 1: earned that slide over an ice over ice.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we'll maybe we'll talk to you next week.

557
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: All right, sounds good? Chap appreciate it.

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00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: Mike Chaplin joining us on the program, and Paris is

560
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Speaker 1: in studio. He was giving out pacer tickets earlier. We're

561
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Speaker 1: talking about Chris Ballard, Shane Steichen returning with the Indianapolis

562
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Speaker 1: Colts and AMP. You and I were just talking. We

563
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Speaker 1: were just talking during the break about this. One of

564
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Speaker 1: the things that I have thought about and I don't know.

565
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, some of these central players probably

566
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Speaker 1: on a different level than do I, but I can

567
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Speaker 1: understand and respect if Carlie orse Gordon right now, as

568
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Speaker 1: in a new position, wanted familiarity until she has better understanding,

569
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Speaker 1: and I mean that is no knock on her.

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Speaker 2: You and I would be in the same spot if you're.

571
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Speaker 1: Has better under standing of everything that goes into running

572
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Speaker 1: a franchise. You think there's any you seem to think

573
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Speaker 1: that there could be some truth to that.

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Speaker 7: I think it's truth with anybody that walks into a

575
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Speaker 7: new situation, especially the way that Carly was presented with

576
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Speaker 7: this unexpectedly. You got to think about the familiarity is

577
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 7: really important. So imagine if you to the way the

578
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 7: fans will say, just clean house and give it to everybody.

579
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Speaker 7: So then you have a new owner, then that new

580
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Speaker 7: owner has to come in with a new coach, new

581
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Speaker 7: general manager, completely new system, and based off of the

582
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Speaker 7: way that our season started, why would one think that

583
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Speaker 7: we couldn't duplicate that and replicate that minus the injuries?

584
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Speaker 8: Where would we be?

585
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Speaker 7: We know we would be in the playoffs minus Daniel

586
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Speaker 7: Jones going down. I mean, you think about the injuries

587
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Speaker 7: and the way that they happened.

588
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Speaker 1: Do you think Jones' intertality of season was going to

589
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Speaker 1: be the player that he started out or did we

590
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Speaker 1: buy into a little bit of a superman that was

591
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Speaker 1: starting to come back come down to where still a

592
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Speaker 1: good player, but not to the level that we saw

593
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Speaker 1: in like say weeks you know one through six.

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Speaker 8: Now, what I think is the system yeah worked for him.

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Speaker 1: I think when notably Shane Styken, right, absolutely.

596
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Speaker 7: He's a quarterback coach and you know it's it's not

597
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Speaker 7: and I'm gonna say this because I've been having these

598
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Speaker 7: kind of conversations with players and different people. It's not

599
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Speaker 7: an indictment against Anthony Richardson, But when you think about

600
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Speaker 7: the system that Shane built, I think Daniel Jones was

601
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Speaker 7: built better for that system than Anthony Richardson was.

602
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Speaker 2: Okay, showcasing which aspect.

603
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Speaker 7: First and foremost up top the mental capacity? You know,

604
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Speaker 7: once it's like the Michael Jordan theory at some point

605
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Speaker 7: the game is ninety percent mental, ten percent physical. Anthony Richardson,

606
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Speaker 7: it was ninety percent physical percent men.

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Speaker 1: Right now, do you now by that? Do you mean

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Speaker 1: that in your estimation Anthony Richardson? And this is not

609
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Speaker 1: met as a knock the lack of intellectual capability to

610
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Speaker 1: quickly process or the overall just maturity of understanding.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a combination of the two. You know,

612
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Speaker 7: when you when And again it's not just that there

613
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Speaker 7: are there.

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Speaker 1: Are veteran quarterbacks have been around a long time that

615
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Speaker 1: never grasped the intellectual So I'm not That's not to

616
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Speaker 1: say he's not an intellectual guy. It's to say football

617
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: intellect is not there yet.

618
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I mean you got to think about it.

619
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Speaker 7: That comes with years of experience, that comes with coaching,

620
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Speaker 7: that comes with this kid basically played what two years

621
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Speaker 7: of organized football at that level, So you can't expect

622
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 7: was he given too much too soon? That was always

623
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Speaker 7: my thing, right, like the handed them the keys right

624
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Speaker 7: out the gate. So we don't know what we were builting.

625
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Speaker 7: And that's what I'm saying. When you think about Carly

626
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Speaker 7: and what she has to deal with for next season,

627
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Speaker 7: do you walk into a situation and you just make

628
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Speaker 7: all of these subtle changes.

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Speaker 8: It would be one thing if we started.

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Speaker 7: A season two and eight, then I understand, okay, blow

631
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Speaker 7: it all up, but you could see the promise in

632
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 7: what this team can do.

633
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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that a quality general manager

634
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: would have had depth at positions to sustain the injuries

635
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Speaker 1: they had.

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Speaker 8: You know what's so crazy?

637
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Speaker 4: I kid you not.

638
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Speaker 7: I think that is not just a situation. It's almost

639
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 7: like an Indiana thing in sports. With me, I think

640
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 7: the Pacers suffered from the same thing. You have backup

641
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 7: players that are similar to the starters. There is no

642
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 7: shift and when you change a backup to the starter.

643
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Speaker 7: For example, when Allen Iverson was who he was, we

644
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 7: know the style of play that he plays with reckless abandonment.

645
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 7: But then when they needed to slow the game down

646
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Speaker 7: based on play a more polished team, Eric snow got

647
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Speaker 7: the ball right.

648
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Speaker 8: We didn't have that.

649
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Speaker 7: We went in at From the coach perspective, I thought,

650
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Speaker 7: and I you know, Reggie and I would have these

651
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 7: conversations as well as other.

652
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Speaker 8: Players, So I got again, I got a little bit.

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Speaker 7: You know, when we're talking about the defensive side of

654
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Speaker 7: the ball, I could ask Robert Mathison, Dwight Freeedy, like

655
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Speaker 7: why did this particular lineman, this this this safety or

656
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Speaker 7: this cornerback or this d lineman, why did he take

657
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Speaker 7: that route?

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Speaker 8: And so I can get that institutional knowledge.

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Speaker 7: But being around the game as long as I have,

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Speaker 7: and that's why I said, from a business side, we

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Speaker 7: operate off emotions as fans, So the first thing we

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Speaker 7: do is it's not going our way.

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Speaker 8: Blow it up.

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Speaker 7: But eight and two everybody was like coach, coach, coats,

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Speaker 7: So I don't want them to blow it up. I

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Speaker 7: think Carly is doing herself a justice by keeping that

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Speaker 7: familiar ality.

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Speaker 8: Going back to that so that you know what you

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Speaker 8: are walking into.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that they have been given another year

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Speaker 1: and more christ than Shane? But do you believe that's

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Speaker 1: because Carlier said go and truly believes that he is

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Speaker 1: the long term operator that she wants, or because she

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Speaker 1: needs someone to strictly keep in the same lane for

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Speaker 1: right now until she can then further dive into it.

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Speaker 7: I believe, as like anybody that has taken over anything

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Speaker 7: brand new, you have to really understand and fully engage

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Speaker 7: yourself to learn all of those because all of it is.

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Speaker 7: All of this is new. Going eight and two was

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Speaker 7: new for her. The energy that the nation was given

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Speaker 7: and putting around our team. Uh, you know, when you

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Speaker 7: think about our running back. At one point he was

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Speaker 7: an MVP candidate, then all of a sudden, nobody's talking

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Speaker 7: about him anymore. All of it is an adjustment period,

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Speaker 7: and I don't know if we have the infrastructure on

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Speaker 7: and in the players, the the the the I think

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Speaker 7: we have the coaching staff to get us where we

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Speaker 7: need to go.

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, player wise, do we.

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Speaker 7: Have the players all of those positions?

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Speaker 8: You know, again, going to Daniel Jones, we did.

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Speaker 7: He was the best available when we got him, so

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Speaker 7: we didn't know what we were.

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Speaker 1: And he's the best available in free agents this year too,

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Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, But it's.

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Speaker 7: All based off of how he started the season at

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Speaker 7: eight and two. So I think this year, you know,

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Speaker 7: you chalk this up. We walked into a thing that

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Speaker 7: listening to your show every day, no one expected.

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Speaker 8: The coach to go eight and too.

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Speaker 2: No, what that's correct?

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Speaker 7: Not not if someone would tell me other than the

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Speaker 7: people that that that work off of fifty six in

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Speaker 7: La fil Road, they're the only ones.

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Speaker 1: And even if you put truth here on meta man, Okay, lastly,

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Speaker 1: before we before we let you run here, I want

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Speaker 1: it right now a Paris you ready?

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year is.

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Speaker 7: Boom, Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 7: I think coming out of the East is New England.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Jacksonville No, I think Jacksonville is good.

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Speaker 2: Drake bas really good. No one talks about Drake. He's

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Speaker 2: very very.

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Speaker 8: Good, playing in an amazing system.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 7: They have very good all of their key players, and

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Speaker 7: they have a coach similar to Shane who is still

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Speaker 7: learning his way, and they got a general manager that

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Speaker 7: you know, he didn't expect this.

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Speaker 8: They'll take it, though, of course we'll take eating too.

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Speaker 8: We won't take the bottom end of the season.

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Speaker 1: Lots of people will be at the Pacers game tomorrow

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Speaker 1: night against the Cleveland Cavaliers courtesy of AMP, just like

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Speaker 1: the eleven hundred kids that benefited from his charitable work

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Speaker 1: at Christmas time as well.

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Speaker 2: Always good seeing you appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thank you man. Go Coach Go Pacers all day, every day,