1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Line from baal Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: So we've been digging in a little bit to this 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: situation regarding illegal immigrants and trucking. 5 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Where you have in Indiana four people that were. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: Killed because an illegal immigrant got a commercial driver's license 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: and with their semi hit a van that had fifteen 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: people in it, mostly the Amish community, and four people 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: were killed. And how in the world did this guy 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: get a driver's license? He was allowed in the country 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. He was parolled by the Biden administration 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania game a commercial driver's license. I'm asking the question, 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: why in the world isn't the Gov. Of the Pennsylvania 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro being charged with a crime. 15 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: Why is it being. 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: An accessory of murder? How is it possible that it's not? 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good. 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: To be with you. 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: And then we had some people call in who are 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: on the roads. They are truckers. Joe, I believe it 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: is it Joe that joins us right now, pretty sier landing. 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: Joe is on your line. 23 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Was that all right? 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: Tony this is Joe. Yeah, I'm not a trucker. I 25 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 4: just I work at a dealership outside of Elwood, Indiana, 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 4: and the Okay, well. 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: So hold on just for clarity. You know you're not 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: on the roads, but you sell the big rigs. 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: Well, i'd all sell the big rigs. I actually drive 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: cars for the company I work for all the time, 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: just inspecting them and then spent a couple of times. Yeah, 32 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: there's been a couple of times I've been just about 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: hit or or killed by a semi driver blowing through 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: a stoplight on thirty seven probably do an eighty mile 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: an hour and it's a fifty five zone, so you're 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: out sure whether or not they're foreigners. 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: But well, well, I appreciate the colin, I thank you 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: for the sharing. Well, I want to certainly hear from 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: people who are involved in the industry. That's the story. 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: I think everyone's got a story of dealing with somebody 41 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: in a semi where it didn't go well. 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: They thought they were in danger, they thought they weren't. 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Following the rules. But rather the question is what are 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 2: we allowing on the roads. That's the question before us. 45 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: What are the standards and why would anybody be opposed 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: to a standard. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: That's the question. 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: And when we take a look at this story, we 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: take a look at four people dead, and we take 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: a look at another state allowing illegal immigrants to get 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: commercial driver's licenses. First things first, what does it take 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: to get a commerci driver's license? Do I have to 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: have a note from my mother written and crayon? Seems 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: pretty easy. Seems too easy because we have a truck 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: or shortage and we need these people. We don't need 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: them that bad, We don't need them that bad. Lives 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: are on the line. 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: So having the experience. 59 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: Right where something bad happened, or to say that you 60 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: saw somebody driving erratically, that I think. 61 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: We all have that story. 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: The story that I'm interested in, the curing curiosity that 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: I have is what are people who are in the industry, 64 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: what are they experiencing? That's the question, and that's what 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: we have to get to the bottom of. And this 66 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: conversation is taking place everywhere. This was Fox News earlier today. 67 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: Truck driver accusing a deadly crash in Indiana. It killed 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 5: four people. The driver reportedly entered the United States under 69 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: President Biden using the CBP one app and released on Parole. 70 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: Senior correspondent Mike Silven has this tragic story. 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 6: Hi Mike and exadlely Dand it's another case of someone 72 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 6: who entered the US under Biden administration policies, went to 73 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 6: a sanctuary state, got a license to get behind a 74 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 6: big rig and now someone is hurt or killed. It 75 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 6: happened in Indiana on Tuesday. One truck on State Road 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 6: sixty seven slowed down. The truck behind him did not, 77 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 6: instead swerved into oncoming traffic. The truck hit a van 78 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 6: transporting four men from Indiana's Amish community. The four men 79 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 6: were killed. The driver of that van is now in 80 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 6: critical condition. Indiana State Police report the driver of the 81 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: semi truck as thirty year old Vezkan Beshiki from Kazakhstan. 82 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 6: He entered the US using the Biden administration CBP one 83 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: cell phone app and that was in December of twenty three. 84 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 6: Risha Kiev was issued a commercial driver's license by the 85 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 6: state of Pennsylvania. Now the issue of undocumented people behind 86 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 6: the wheel of big rigs is painful for Marcus Coleman. 87 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 6: In June of twenty twenty four, his five year old 88 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 6: daughter was critically injured by a driver from India who 89 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 6: entered the US illegally and got a commercial driver's license 90 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 6: when he was still a teenager. Dahlia will spend the 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: rest of her life in need of medical care. 92 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: How many more of these stories do we actually want? 93 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: And I bring this up again? Where do I come 94 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: back to a story like this? I bring this up 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: again because I got to figure out a way to 96 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: say this nicely. But I do not know if I 97 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 2: have a way to say this nicely. I don't care 98 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 2: how the left feels about any of this. I don't 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: care how they feel about illegal immigrants. I don't care 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: whether they think I'm nice or not. I don't give 101 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: a damn. People are getting killed, and I have young 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: girls who now need medical care for the rest of 103 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: their life. And that is a price to pay because 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: you want someone in the country illegally go to hell. 105 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm not interested in you. You have decided that my 106 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: life is totally disposable, and my answer is no, it's not. 107 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: You told me that my reality was totally disposable. 108 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: When you said that, I had to agree that men 109 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: could be women and women could be men, and I 110 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: could see a man in a dress and I have 111 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: to call him. She no, no, no, no. 112 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: I love me more than I love you. I love 113 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: me more than you hate me. I'm not putting up 114 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: with that. 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: And the correct answer with all this is to say no, 116 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: and if the trucking companies don't like it, allow me 117 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: to say it. 118 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: I don't care what you want. 119 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: If you want people here legally driving trucks is unacceptable, 120 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: the answer is no. Business is gonna be tough. I agree, 121 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to charge more for your routes. You're 122 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: gonna have to pay more for drivers. We're gonna have 123 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: to pay more. I understand. People have to go to jail, 124 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: not only the people who are legally getting these licenses, 125 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: but the people who give the licenses, the people who 126 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: do the hiring. They have to go to jail. Right, 127 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: it's Harvey kai Tel. Someone's got to go to jail. 128 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: We have to give these people a way of life, 129 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: and we have to give them dignity. No no, no, no no. 130 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: They're killing people on our streets. I don't have to 131 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: give them anything except to kick in the ass and 132 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: show them into a cell. I don't have to give 133 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: them anything, and neither to you. They don't deserve it. 134 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: They haven't earned it. It's enough. And if the left 135 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: wants to have this argument, I say we have it. 136 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: And if the left wants to get loud, I say 137 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: we can loud. And if the left wants to get rambunctious, 138 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: I think we should put him in their seat. 139 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: Part of the problem with. 140 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: Everything that you're seeing in the organized left regarding, for example, ICE, 141 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: is that they. 142 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: Think they can get violent and we're just gonna sit here. 143 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: Now this becomes a very strange moment on radio, a 144 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: very dangerous moment on radio. 145 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: Am I a guy who's advocating violence. Absolutely not. 146 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: I do not believe in creating what the left is created, 147 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: which is basically organized cells or militias to engage in 148 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: violence against law enforcement. 149 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: Not in the slightest. 150 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Do I think that you sometimes have to fight for 151 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: your country, including against those who want to destroy your country. 152 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely afraid of these people. Afraid of these people. What 153 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: are you out of your mind? There is this guy, Oh, 154 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: who is the guy? Let me see if I have it. 155 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: He's always got the face tattoos, Tony, you're talking about 156 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: post Bolone. No, I'm not talking about post Belone. This 157 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: guy can't sing and he's like come and get me, 158 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: law enforcement. I'm not afraid of you. I'm so angry 159 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: and I'm so tough. It was this guy right here, 160 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: this guy right here. Ooh, look how tough he is. 161 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: Look how angry he is. Soun's out, guns out, shut 162 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: the blank up and fight back. 163 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's pretty violent. And look, I'll look 164 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: how angry he is. 165 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: He's got his resistance tattoo. He's so angry and he's 166 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: so upset. He's so tough, and he's so strong. And 167 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: then there's a picture of him and he is getting 168 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: Oh there it is. Sorry, I didn't know I had it. 169 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: And there he is getting arrested, and there's Homeland Security, 170 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: and there he is getting arrested while he wears a 171 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: hoodie that reads I'mantifa. 172 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: Right good, You ain't tough. 173 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: You think people should be here illegally getting drivers' licenses 174 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: and killing American citizens, putting young girls in situations where. 175 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: They need medical care for the rest of their lives. 176 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: I think we should fight. 177 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: And I'm exhausted by the political right trying to pretend 178 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: that there's a nice way to do this, and that 179 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: includes members of the House and members of the Senate. Enough, 180 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: I have four dead Hoosiers. How many more do I need? 181 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: Enough? 182 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: When do you start saying that Josh Shapiro is an 183 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: accessorate of murder? Gavin Newsome is an accessorate of murder? 184 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: Say it like that, call them out for what is happening. 185 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: Stop playing nice. It's enough, It is enough. Let me 186 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: go to Adam. 187 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: He is on the phones a trucker fourteen years in 188 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: the industry. 189 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 7: Adam, Yeah, I'm from Kalamuz in Michigan. I listen to 190 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 7: you and I travel through the Indianapolis area, which I'm 191 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 7: doing right now. 192 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that man very much. 193 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: And so the question is, is what you see in 194 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: the industry regarding people who are here illegally getting commercial 195 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: driver's licenses, the hiring practices we're seeing out there, the. 196 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 7: Issue it was not very rare, but it's becoming more 197 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 7: and more predominant. And I'm places that I deal with 198 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 7: on a regular basis, even they're starting to say that 199 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 7: it's getting to be a lot more common. Matter of fact, 200 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 7: there's a couple of places I've been to, you know, 201 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 7: picking up and delivering where they're like, oh, thank god, 202 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 7: somebody actually understands English. 203 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: So this is the second time we've heard about the 204 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: fact that. 205 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: People aren't speaking English. Is that a Is that a 206 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: standard thing now in trucking. 207 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 7: Believe it or not, it's actually federal law. In order 208 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 7: to hold the cd L, you're supposed to be able 209 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 7: to speak and understand English. Clearly, with the exception of 210 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 7: our Mexican drivers that are bringing in trade from the 211 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 7: over the border and drivers coming out of Canada. Yeah, 212 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 7: there are builts, they're only driver built. They are only 213 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 7: people that are existed. However, there are limits of how 214 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 7: far into our country they're so supposed to be allowed 215 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 7: to go. 216 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: So you're running into people, You're running into people who 217 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: aren't able to speak English, You're running into people trucking 218 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: companies that still do the hiring. But is there is there? 219 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: You know when we talk about getting a commercial driver's license, 220 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: you have your CDL? How hard is that to obtain? 221 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 7: For me, it was actually rather difficult. I filled my 222 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 7: first time at it and succeeded my second time around. 223 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 7: So it's not easy. I'd a met with my experience 224 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 7: I have now it would be easy. But first up, no, 225 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 7: it is it is. 226 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: It's not easy, and how would you assume these people 227 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 3: are getting a cd O. 228 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 7: Well, if they have the appropriate person that can actually 229 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 7: teach them how to operate the truck, or if the 230 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 7: treaty school you know, allows you know, some loopholes set 231 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 7: up to where these people are getting in. You know, 232 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 7: that's how it's happening. I mean, I'm seeing takeover in 233 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 7: construction fields more and more predominantly where most people on 234 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 7: construction sites don't speak English. 235 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: Have you as and so you drive from Michigan, you 236 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: drive through Indiana, you listen to me in Indianapolis in 237 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: ninety three point one FMWIBC, and I appreciate that. Have 238 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: you seen that the roads with those truckers that are 239 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 2: on the roads have gotten more dangerous over the last years. 240 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 7: The problem is is people don't know what they're doing 241 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 7: out here. They don't understand the roadways. They might understand 242 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 7: generally how to operate our equipment. But here's the dang 243 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 7: thing is is most of these people are coming from 244 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 7: countries where they don't deal with the weather we do 245 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 7: around here. And if you ever notice, usually accidents typically 246 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 7: happen either in high city zones where these people have 247 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 7: to try to pay attention to find the where they're 248 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 7: at and where they're trying to go, or they happen in. 249 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: Bad road conditions, right, Adam, I appreciate you taking the time. 250 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I appreciate you listening. Thank you 251 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: so very much. If people don't speaking English, that's a problem. 252 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: And if there's anybody who thinks it's wrong to demand 253 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: that are trying to speaks English, that's also a problem. 254 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: And to that point I was making earlier, it's for 255 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 3: us to say we don't care. 256 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: If you like the rule, that that's the rule, you 257 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: live up to the rule, or else you go to jail, 258 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: or else you get deported, or else, whatever the case 259 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: may be. You have a problem speaking English, that's your problem. 260 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: But our job is not to make it easier for you. 261 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: Our job is to ensure that young girls don't have 262 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: to have a life of medical care, and that four 263 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: people just driving down a roadway get to actually continue. 264 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: To drive down a roadway and not get killed. That's 265 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: the argument. 266 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: That's what we need to ensure. I'm Tony Katz, and 267 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: this is Tony Kats today. 268 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Elon Musk is getting ethereal is that the right is 269 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: that the right. 270 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: Word, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 271 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: Good to be here, Good to be with you. 272 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any cursing producer landing, but finger 273 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: on the dumb button just in case. 274 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: Uh. 275 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 8: Elon strong enough to last long enough to extend life 276 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 8: to other planets and to kind of get I guess 277 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 8: Ai and robotics to the point where we're can ensure 278 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 8: that the future is good. 279 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: Now, maybe you missed the first part of that. This 280 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: is Elon Musk arguing that the United States survive. 281 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: To be able for us to. 282 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 8: Exist, American needs to be strong enough to last long 283 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 8: enough to extend life to other planets and to kind 284 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 8: of get I guess Ai and robotics to the point 285 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 8: where we're can ensure that the. 286 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: Future is good. 287 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 8: Like on the other hand, if if we were to 288 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 8: descend into say communism or some situation where the state 289 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 8: was extremely oppressive, that that would mean that we we 290 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 8: might not be able to become multiplanetary. We might the 291 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 8: state might stamp out our progress in a robotics. 292 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 2: Now, the left hatred of Elon Musk because Elon Musk 293 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 2: thought that there was waste, fraud and abuse in the system. 294 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: Because he said, I'm going to support Trump to the 295 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: point where they gave up the very concept of electric vehicles. Oh, 296 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, they gave it up. It is a remarkable 297 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: thing to witness. But this is an interesting conversation because 298 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: what he's saying is is that in a society that 299 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: is state dominated, one cannot have innovation. 300 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: This is Elon Musk making the. 301 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: Open case for capitalism, which is of course the right 302 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 2: case to make. These others cannot invent, they cannot create, 303 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: They cannot think because they thwart the thinking, and they 304 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: build out situations by which they prevent other people from 305 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: thinking or at least attempting. What is the value of 306 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: having an idea if you're not able to follow through 307 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: on the idea, even if it fails. 308 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: It's a heck of a statement. 309 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: America is the only place that allows you to dream 310 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: big enough and act on those dreams where they can 311 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: become reality. 312 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: Now, his reality is kind of far out. 313 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: There, right, interplanetary travel, interplanetary doniciles. 314 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: You're right, it is way out there. Good. I think 315 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 3: it's great. 316 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: You want way out there thinking, You want people looking 317 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: at what's next, looking ahead, what is actually over the hill, what. 318 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 3: It lies beyond the horizon? That's what you want. 319 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Everything I've left wants is completely regressive. They're gonna mock 320 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: Elon Musk for this. They're gonna mock them days, nights, weekends. 321 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: This is a conversation about how you dream and how 322 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: you want to be in a place that allows you 323 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: to chase it. 324 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 3: I like it. I like it a lot. I have 325 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: much more to get to. Three more things for you. 326 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: End all of this story about Wes Moore, the governor 327 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: of Maryland. 328 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: From contender to pretender. That story is coming up. This 329 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: is Tony Katz today. 330 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 9: It is not a victimless crime, as Fox News puts 331 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 9: out a headline that the Department of Transportation has pulled 332 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 9: hundreds of English illiterate illegal immigrant truckers off the roads. 333 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: That's their headline. 334 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: But when it comes to pretenders, nobody bigger than Zar 335 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: and Mamdani. 336 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 10: I think of the freedom from suffering that Buddhism teaches 337 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 10: us is only possible if we remove the three poisons 338 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 10: of desire, hatred, and ignorance from our daily lives. We 339 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 10: need not accept suffering as unchangeable. We need not treat 340 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 10: hatred as the natural state. We have the power to 341 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 10: set ourselves free and I consider my own faith Islam 342 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 10: a religion built upon a narrative of migration. The story 343 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 10: of the Hijra reminds us that prophet Muhammad so de 344 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 10: a la a Lei, who is seldom was a stranger too, 345 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 10: who fled Mecca and was welcomed in Medina. Suda Nahal 346 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 10: sixteen forty two tells us as for those who immigrated 347 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 10: in the cause of a law, after being persecuted, we 348 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 10: will surely bless them with a good home in this world. 349 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,239 Speaker 10: Or as the prophet Muhammad Sali ala a le who 350 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 10: was seldom said, Islam began as things strange, and we'll 351 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 10: go back to being strange. 352 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: Just as a question there, Zaramm Donnie, as you're sitting 353 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: there preaching Islam to us, am I welcome in Mecca. 354 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: Now that we know the answer, and how ridiculous you are? 355 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: Can we stop this? Can we stop pretending that you 356 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: have something to offer. I'm not about to take lessons 357 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: in how to deal with people in the country illegally 358 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: from a political system that not only would not allow 359 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: me to visit Mecca, but would kill me if they 360 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: had the power. All we want to do is support people. 361 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: We want people to come in legally. Can't say that 362 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: about Islam, now, can you. I'm sorry if that offends. 363 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 2: The truth sometimes offends. I can't worry about that. 364 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: The truth is. 365 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: That when it comes to the layoffs at the Washington Post, 366 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: there's real anger from these reporters. 367 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: They have no one to blame but themselves. 368 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: Hundreds of people laid off from the Washington Post, sports division, 369 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: closed podcasts, closed, feign desk, ripped asunder. 370 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: The Washington Post was never interested in doing news, or 371 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: at the time they were interested in doing news. Those 372 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 3: days were over. 373 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: They wanted to live on the history of Watergate and 374 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: that was enough for them. 375 00:22:53,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: And when Bezos bought the paper, they said, give us money. 376 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 2: And when Jeff Bezos said we're gonna make changes, so 377 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: hopefully we can make more money here, those same reporters 378 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: and others said, how dare you take us off our 379 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: mission to be leftists? Hey, everybody, drop your subscription, don't 380 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 2: buy the Washington Post. 381 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: And now that they've. 382 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: Been laid off, they're engaged in protests in front of 383 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: the building. 384 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 3: Hey, we do who makes the post? Who makes the poles? 385 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 3: Who makes the poles? These are grown ups saying who 386 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: makes the post. We do. 387 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, You're just journalists who can be hired 388 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: and fired. We could all be hired and fired. If 389 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: you own the company, you own the company, and the 390 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: company can. 391 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: Thrive or go out of business. And if you work 392 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: for the company, you can be hired and you can 393 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: be fired. That's it. You're not special. 394 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: But what's the difference between these so called grownups, these 395 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: journalists who somehow we're supposed to respect, and those sixteen 396 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: year olds on the street complaining about ice. It's the 397 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: same exact childlike nonsense and problem, same exact stuff. They 398 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: don't understand how unimportant they are. You told people to 399 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 2: cancel their subscriptions. You think that Jeff Bezos's job is 400 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: to write you checks? Where are the posts? He doesn't 401 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: have a say, He just has to pay us. Talk 402 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: about a total lack of introspection. Of the hundreds of 403 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: you that were fired. Couldn't one of you, just one 404 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: of you look at your production, look at your output, 405 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: look at your how you treated your employe, and say, 406 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: you know what I deserve to get fired? 407 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: I sucked, not a one. Yeah. 408 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: Well, the people have spoken, and the post is spoken, 409 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: and that's the end of that. Then there is the 410 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: story of the great Pretender, which is the story of 411 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: Wes Moore. Wes Moore is the governor of Maryland. And 412 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: I said on this show that Wes Moore is going 413 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: to be a presidential contender. Military history, black men, the Democrats, 414 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: they vote by checking boxes. He has a fantastic presentation, 415 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: and he gave a speech at the DNC and I said, 416 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: that is as close he's going to get as he's 417 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: going to get to his Obama moment. That guy, that 418 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: guy is going to be a contender. Well, the Washington 419 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: Free Beacon put out a story and the Washington Free 420 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 2: Beacon said that, well, Wes Moore is lying like you 421 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't believe. Here is some of the story. More falsely 422 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: claimed that he was born and grew up in Baltimore, 423 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: which he did not. 424 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: Now at that moment, you gotta stop. 425 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: Why would you Why would you say you were born 426 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: somewhere or grew up somewhere when you didn't. 427 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: I was born in Brooklyn, I grew up in New Jersey. 428 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: That's what happened. I was a young baby when we 429 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 3: moved to Jersey. But that's what happened. 430 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 2: Why would you lie about it? Well, there's a bunch 431 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: of reasons to lie about it. You lie about it 432 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: because maybe it gives you opportunity, It gives you street cred, 433 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: all those sorts of things. It makes you seem tougher, stronger. 434 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: But he lied about where he was born and where 435 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: he grew up. He said that he was inducted into 436 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: the Maryland College Football Hall of Fame. According to the 437 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: Free Beacon, this organization does not exist. 438 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: What. 439 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: First of all, Maryland doesn't have a college football Hall 440 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: of Fame. All right, maybe not, they're terrapins. Maybe it's 441 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: not necessary. 442 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. But what a thing because someone can 443 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: look it up. 444 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: But it tells you how lazy people are you never 445 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: looked it up, and how they deny it didn't even 446 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: dawn to me. 447 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: If I had heard it, I would be like, oh, okay, huh. 448 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: It would not dawn on me that someone would lie 449 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: about such a thing. 450 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: That he received a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, 451 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: which he had not. Now wait a second, did he 452 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 2: not get the bronze Star or did he not serve 453 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: in Afghanistan? 454 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: I know he's in the military. 455 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: You lie about getting a bronze Star? I mean, if 456 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: you lie about serving, I mean, that's just more than. 457 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 3: I could take. 458 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: But I'm assuming if you lie about getting an award 459 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: that people in the military around the military would accuse 460 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: you of stolen valor doesn't it Does that fit in 461 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: that world, because I would think it fits in that world. 462 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen, he was considered a foremost expert on 463 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: radical Islam based on his graduate thesis, which he never 464 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: submitted to Oxford University's library and can no longer locate. Okay, 465 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: so so you were never an expert That he was 466 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: a doctoral candidate at Oxford in two thousand and six, 467 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: a claim that he has no documentation to support and 468 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: on which Oxford refuses to comment. 469 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh, this lying goes on your whole life. You lied 470 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: your way to. 471 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: Getting people to think that you were something, and you 472 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: did it every day, and that he had a quote 473 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: difficult childhood in the Bronx and Baltimore, even though he 474 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: attended the Riverdale Country School That's where John F. Kennedy 475 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 2: went to school. Everybody an elite private school as a child. 476 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: He didn't live in Baltimore until college, where he attended 477 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: another elite private school, JOHNS. 478 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: Hopkins University. 479 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot of lying. That is like Joe 480 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: Biden levels of lying. Remember Joe Biden led his whole career. 481 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: That's all he did was lie. He was known as 482 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: a liar. Joe Biden once gave a speech when he 483 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: was running for president that he cribbed from a British 484 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: parliamentarian by the name of Neil Kinnock. Joe Biden is 485 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: a liar every day of his life. Corn Pop was 486 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: a bad dude. There was no corn Pop. The only 487 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: running he had with corn Pop was that time he 488 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: couldn't open his cereal and he cried so much Jill had. 489 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: To take care of it. The end. 490 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: Wow, Now there's one more wes Moore story. As reported, 491 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: wes Moore tells the story, says Andrew Kerr, investigative reporter 492 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: of Free Beacon, tells the story of his great grandfather's 493 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,719 Speaker 2: exile quote unquote from South Carolina to Jamaica to escape 494 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: a KKK lynching. And that story is countered and contradicted 495 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: by the historical record. 496 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: Oh, by goodness, is everything about this guy a lie? 497 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: Is everything about this guy a fraud? And the answer 498 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 3: is yeah. 499 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: And so I say, well, that's going to keep you 500 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: from being a presidential nominee for the Democrats. And then 501 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: I remember that Joe Biden lied about everything. It's not 502 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: gonna keep him from anything. They're gonna tell us for 503 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: mentioning it, that we're racists. That's what they're gonna say. 504 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: For mentioning that his whole life is a lie, They're 505 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: gonna call us racists. Remember the superintendent in Iowa. Remember 506 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: they hired this guy be the superintendent. It turns out 507 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: he's in the country illegally. He doesn't have any of 508 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: the qualifications he said he had, but he was hired 509 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: by five or six liberal white women on the school 510 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 2: board because he was black, and he was hired because 511 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: they wanted to say, look at who we hired, and 512 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: so they never did the background check why, because they 513 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: didn't want to find anything that would keep them from 514 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: hiring him. They had to hire him to show how 515 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: good they were, to show how loving they were, to 516 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: show how non bigoted they are. They had to purposely 517 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 2: dumb themselves down and never ask a question so they 518 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: would be thought of as kind and decent. Same story, Yes, 519 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: they could still nominate this guy, but now you know, 520 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats and this is Tony Katz today. 521 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: So President Trump puts out a. 522 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: Video the way you'll see the headline. Trump shares racist 523 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: video depicting Obama's apes on truth social then removes it 524 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: amid bipartisan outrage. Tim Scott even said, I don't know 525 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: what this is the most racist thing I've ever seen. 526 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: This better be a mistake. 527 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: The video is not of Barack Obama or Michelle Obama. 528 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: The video is dumb as can be. 529 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: The video itself was of some I forget even the conversation, 530 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: some political talk thing, and then at the end of it, 531 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: like it was playing a reel. After the video, it 532 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: shows Barack Obama and Michelle Obama like singing almost in 533 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: a cartoon way. 534 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: And their bodies are of vapes. You're like, what is that. 535 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 2: Turns out there's this video that someone had created that 536 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: has all of these Democrats as different animals. Jabie Pritzker 537 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: is in this a bunch of others, and they all 538 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: then bow down when the lion comes walking through King 539 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: of the Jungle, and the lion is Trump. Somehow, this 540 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: clip of it is on the end of this video, 541 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: and the video is talking about the election. 542 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 3: It's talking about dominion voting. 543 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: It's talking about a smart manic and a whole bunch 544 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: of things. It is obvious that the President didn't post 545 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: a video trying to depict the Obamas apes. It's part 546 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: of a video that already exists out there where it 547 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 2: has the Democratic Party as members of them as these 548 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: animals in the jungle. Is it insane? Of course it's insane. 549 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: You didn't know you were posting it, you didn't know 550 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: how to edit it. Who did this for you? Why 551 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: would you let that happen? 552 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 3: It's just so dumb. 553 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 11: But the idea that the President said, you know what 554 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 11: I'm gonna do today, I'm going to take the former 555 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 11: president the former first Lady, who are both black, and 556 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 11: I'm gonna do the most racist thing I could possibly 557 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 11: do and depict them as apes. 558 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: That's my plan. Anybody who thinks Trump did that is 559 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: out of their mind. That any part of that video 560 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: could be connected to something else you're posting is insane 561 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: and all I want, all I want is for everybody 562 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: not to be dumb. 563 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 3: Could we go? 564 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's like that that meme where you know 565 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: we've gone zero days without an accident and gone zero 566 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: days without somebody calling you a Nazi. Can we go 567 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 2: zero days without somebody being dumb? Is that really too hard? 568 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: It is too hard to all right, it's too hard 569 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: to ask, it's too much. Good Lord, anyway, this will 570 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: come and go. 571 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 3: The video exists. Trump didn't make it. It was at 572 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: the end of his video. It was dumb. That's that. 573 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats today. 574 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: Foo