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Speaker 2: From your perspective, You've been around the WNBA for pretty

436
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Speaker 2: much the last twenty five years. Where does this group's

437
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Speaker 2: camaraderie rank within the teams that you've been.

438
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Speaker 5: A part of, Man, I mean they're really tight. You know,

439
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 5: it's I remember our twenty twelve team was pretty tight. Uh,

440
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 5: that's the team that won the championship. You know. I

441
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Speaker 5: I don't know that I was ever on a w

442
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Speaker 5: NBA team that was as tight as this group and

443
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 5: has such good chemistry, and it's selfless as this group,

444
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Speaker 5: and it it really is. This is a this is

445
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Speaker 5: a team. Mean, we're deep. And sometimes when you're so deep,

446
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 5: it's challenging because everybody wants to play right and and

447
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 5: and everybody deserves to play in certain moments, but it's

448
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 5: not gonna happen because you have that depth and their chemistry,

449
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Speaker 5: their ability to to pull for one another, their ability

450
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Speaker 5: to know that it can be anybody's night and to

451
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Speaker 5: to feed that person and to empower that person or

452
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Speaker 5: those people. You know, it's a selfless group. And we

453
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Speaker 5: talk about all the time choosing the we over the me,

454
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Speaker 5: and and this is a group that does that and

455
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Speaker 5: lives that, and they genuinely like each other. They have

456
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Speaker 5: great chemistry. They're a connected group and and and I'm

457
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Speaker 5: not sure you know that I've seen a group, a group,

458
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Speaker 5: a team in the W that is as connect it

459
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Speaker 5: as these guys, and it makes it really special and

460
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Speaker 5: fun to go to work.

461
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Speaker 1: Coach. I'm going to ask you a question that we

462
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Speaker 1: have from a listener here. That's something you and I

463
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Speaker 1: have touched upon a couple of weeks ago in our conversation,

464
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Speaker 1: but I want to revisit it. And I know it

465
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Speaker 1: sounds like kind of a nippick easy thing to pinpoint

466
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Speaker 1: when you have a star like Caitlin Clark out, But

467
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Speaker 1: I still think it's a good question from Charles, and

468
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Speaker 1: he says, I'm just curious. Is there any thought that

469
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Speaker 1: perhaps the Fever do in fact have more of an

470
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Speaker 1: advantage when Caitlin is not on the court because teams

471
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what player it is that the Fever

472
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Speaker 1: will be going through as opposed to the obvious that

473
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Speaker 1: she is somebody you'll be going through when she is

474
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Speaker 1: on the court. Is there some truth to that?

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Speaker 5: I think there's some truth to that. You know, it's

476
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Speaker 5: interesting because I compare it to I called a Dallas

477
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Speaker 5: Mavericks game before Thanksgiving and Luca was out with injuries,

478
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Speaker 5: and I asked Jason Kids very similar question, and I

479
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Speaker 5: would say I would answer it very similar to what

480
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Speaker 5: he did. It is different. There's some truth to that

481
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Speaker 5: in that you don't know who whose hands the ball

482
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Speaker 5: is going to be in. You get production. We get

483
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 5: production from multiple players every night, so it's very difficult

484
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Speaker 5: for a scouting report to key on one or two players.

485
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Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark is always going to be the top of

486
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Speaker 5: the scouting report. So when she is on the floor,

487
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Speaker 5: yes they know that she's going to have the ball

488
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Speaker 5: in her hands. Yes they know that she is a

489
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Speaker 5: dynamic playmaker. But because of that, we also open up

490
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Speaker 5: other things for everybody else. I think what this group

491
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: has has learned and the advantage that it has given

492
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Speaker 5: us is that when we get in those crunch time moments,

493
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Speaker 5: when Caitlin Clark is on the floor, no one is

494
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Speaker 5: afraid to take the big shot, No one is afraid

495
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Speaker 5: to make the play, no one is afraid to make

496
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Speaker 5: the extra pass because they trust one another. Implicitly, they

497
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Speaker 5: know that one another is gonna is going to step

498
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Speaker 5: up in those moments, and because Caitlyn is able to

499
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Speaker 5: see that as well, inherently, she's going to have that

500
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Speaker 5: trust in her teammates, and I think that it makes us.

501
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Speaker 5: While we want to have her on the floor, it

502
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Speaker 5: is made us a better, more confident group. She's able

503
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Speaker 5: to see that from the sideline and see and she's

504
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Speaker 5: a smart player. What are the smartest players I've ever

505
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Speaker 5: been around and understand how I can get my teammates

506
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Speaker 5: in positions for success. And I know when they're sending

507
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Speaker 5: two and three defenders at me that I make the

508
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Speaker 5: right play and they're going to get it done. And

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Speaker 5: I think that that will pay.

510
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Speaker 4: Dividends for us.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, congratulations to Aliah Boston who has

512
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Speaker 1: been named the w NBA Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

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Speaker 1: That announcement coming within the last hour or so. Stephanie White,

514
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Fever, our guest, stephan I

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Speaker 1: did want to ask you as well. You know your

516
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Speaker 1: old franchise that you were part of, the Connecticut son

517
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Speaker 1: Obviously you are aware of the reports of their sale

518
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Speaker 1: now to an investment group led by the minority owner

519
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Speaker 1: of the Boston Celtics, and the report that that franchise

520
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Speaker 1: will be vacating Connecticut to move to Boston. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: that even though you came from Connecticut to hear that,

522
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Speaker 1: there is still some part of Connecticut, you know, within

523
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Speaker 1: your heart just your overall reaction to that news.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, first and foremost, you know, the Meet

525
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 5: and Sun Tribe and and the Council of Elders there

526
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: were just are great ambassadors for women's sports. And I

527
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Speaker 5: think back to the time that they moved the Orlando

528
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Speaker 5: Miracle to Connecticut and we didn't quite know what to expect,

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Speaker 5: and they have taken great care of the w n

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Speaker 5: b A and great care of of the franchise, and

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Speaker 5: really we're leaders in the in the movement of the

532
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Speaker 5: w n b A at that time, you know, and

533
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Speaker 5: and I think that it's a different time now, and

534
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 5: and continuing to to make the decisions that need to

535
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Speaker 5: be made to whether that's building a practice facility or

536
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 5: having a different arena or relocating a franchise are hard decisions.

537
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Speaker 5: And you know, I don't I don't know where we

538
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Speaker 5: are with with with with actually if that's coming to

539
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Speaker 5: fruition or not. I mean, I know that there's some

540
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Speaker 5: some other reports out there as well, but I really

541
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Speaker 5: do want to emphasize just the the passion with which

542
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Speaker 5: the tribe have for the w n B A and

543
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Speaker 5: for the players, and for the Connecticut's own organization, and

544
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Speaker 5: how well they have taken care of and elevated the

545
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Speaker 5: w NBA as well. You know, obviously, I think Boston's

546
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 5: a great city. I've had two experiences coaching in TD Garden.

547
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: The environments were amazing, and so if that happened.

548
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Speaker 4: It would be a great w NBA city.

549
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Speaker 5: But I'd be remiss if I didn't just remind people

550
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Speaker 5: how invested the Mohegan Sun tribe had been in women's

551
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Speaker 5: sport and how much they poured into the w NBA.

552
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Speaker 2: Coach ur Tiam arguableieve the hottest right now in the WNBA,

553
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: winners six straight, eight and two in the last ten.

554
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Speaker 2: You're taking on a Los Angeles Sparks team that beat

555
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Speaker 2: your team twice at game bruce Fieldhouse, and they are

556
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Speaker 2: arguably the second hottest team right now in the w NBA.

557
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: They're seven and two in their last nine. What challenges

558
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: do they present because Azue Stevens and deer Can Hanby

559
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: after the All Star break, I've been playing at a

560
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: different level.

561
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they're the toughest thing for us is

562
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 5: just their links. Their link causes us challenges. You know,

563
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 5: they've got Azaray Stevens who's at like six five. Hereic

564
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 5: Hanby who's at six to four, Cameron brink Is back

565
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 5: who's at like six six. Rakia Jackson's a six three wing.

566
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Speaker 5: You know she she's long. Julie alamand Is is a

567
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: six to one point guard. I mean, so their link

568
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 5: has caused us problems. We've gotten in situations when we've

569
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: played them where where we've at times over penetrated, gotten

570
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: too deep, have not been able to find the right

571
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 5: play and find the right pass. We've got to really

572
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: do a good job of making sure, uh that we

573
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: make the easy play. We've got to make sure that

574
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 5: we offensively, that we make the easy play, that we

575
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 5: read their switches. But defensively, you know, they've been dominant

576
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: in the paint and and and they've been dominant from

577
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: the three point line, and so we've got to be

578
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 5: really disciplined in not giving up easy shots, trying to

579
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 5: force them into tough twos as much as possible, and

580
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: and and and try to keep them off the free

581
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: throw line. It's it's gonna be a tough matchup for us,

582
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 5: and we we've got to make sure that we're incredibly

583
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Speaker 5: disciplined on both ends.

584
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Speaker 1: Where do things stand? Finally, coached with Caitlyn Clark and

585
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Speaker 1: her return, Yeah, I mean.

586
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Speaker 5: There's there's no changes yet, you know, continuing to go

587
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: through the rehab process, you know, beginning to do some

588
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 5: to do some running and and build some endurance, and

589
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: and continuing to take it to take it's low and

590
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 5: make sure that when when she does come back, when

591
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: she does return to court activities, that she's one hundred

592
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 5: percent ready to go.

593
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Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, somebody pointed out that the Garth

594
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Brooks you bounced back with might have been a cover

595
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: and not actually Garth Brooks. Coach White, are you a

596
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: big enough Garth Brooks fan that you can determine whether

597
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: or not that was a cover or the actual Garth Brooks.

598
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: Oh well, I don't know. Let's see you play it.

599
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: Play it, Eddie, I don't have it anymore.

600
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Speaker 2: Head X song for the next segment.

601
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: Q up already, well, he prepared, he's thinking, he's thinking

602
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: one head.

603
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: Eddie's back to Oasis. He's off the Garth Brooks. Well trade, uh, coach,

604
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: best of luck, tonight against the Sparks. Appreciate the time

605
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: as always, travel safely obviously, but good luck in getting

606
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: six in a row. All right, thanks, all right, Stepanitie

607
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: White joining us on the program. It sounded like Garth

608
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Brooks to me, to be honest, it sounded like Garth

609
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: Brooks to me. What shirt are you wearing? By the way, Eddie, it's.

610
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Speaker 2: Called The Boys, Jake. It's a it's a show on

611
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime that I enjoy thoroughly. The final season's coming

612
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: up soon.

613
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Speaker 1: And what's the plot, if you will of The Boys?

614
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like a playoff of like stuff that's going

615
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: on in like today's world, like politically, economically, socially, and.

616
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Speaker 1: The playoff of stuff.

617
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Speaker 2: Yes, the guy that is pretty much in charge is

618
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Speaker 2: a representative of somebody of power in the United States

619
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Speaker 2: of America.

620
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Speaker 1: And is he is he like he looks like he's

621
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Speaker 1: like something. They're all superheroes, yes, okay, yeah, And this

622
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: takes place in what city? I think, New York? Okay,

623
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Speaker 1: I have Little League Baseball thoughts should I do that?

624
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: On the other side, sure, it's one of those where

625
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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask the temperate of the audience of

626
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Speaker 1: whether or not. I'm old and jaded. We'll do it

627
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: next and again, big show lined up for you. As

628
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, today Joela Erics's going to join

629
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Speaker 1: us one o'clock Colts are practicing today in Baltimore against

630
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Joela from the Indianapolis Star about twenty three

631
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Speaker 1: minutes from now. It's querying company here in the fan.

632
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Now this is Brooks and Done, is it not? That

633
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: is Brooks and Done. We've exhausted my knowledge of country music.

634
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: So I have very mixed feelings about the Little League

635
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: World Series because it's always interesting to me when I

636
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: watch it. And I should preface with this, and I

637
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: understand it. I opened myself up to this when people

638
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: like you don't have kids of your own. It's true,

639
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a parent. Guilty is charged, right, and maybe

640
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: that means that I don't have a full appreciation for

641
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: those things. But I was a kid and I played

642
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Little League. I can still tell you every team that

643
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: I played for. I played for the Giants, I played

644
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: for the Indians. I played for the Red Sox, I

645
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: played for the White Sox. I played for the Tigers,

646
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I played for the Cubs. I can tell you the

647
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: sponsors all of that, right, love heating and air. By

648
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: the way, sponsor of the Red Sox still have the

649
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: baseball when I threw a no hitter, still had the

650
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: ball signed by the whole team. So I love it,

651
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: and I love the culture of Little League Baseball, all

652
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: of it. But when they started televising not the Little

653
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: League World Series itself that was always on the wide

654
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: world of sports, when it was usually a team from

655
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: like Taipei and then an American team you know, far East,

656
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: versus the whatever team represented the United States. Although I

657
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: have to admit when it came to the Little League

658
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: World Series, I'm like, wait a minute, World Series, Like,

659
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, why are there never teams from like Denmark

660
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: in this right? But I digress. I always enjoyed it,

661
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: but now that they were getting even further and further

662
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: back into the tournament of it being televised, you know,

663
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: the regionals and the state and those sorts of things,

664
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: and I was the same way. Admittedly, when I was

665
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: a kid, I had a batting love that I think

666
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: I got like a Reds game, and I wore that

667
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: not because it helped my grip, because that's what I

668
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: saw big leaguers wear and we chewed Big League chew.

669
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: But I'm watching yesterday, and I mean, this kid's up

670
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: there and he's he looks like Barry Bonds. He's got

671
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: on the elbow, you know, protector and nine pounds of

672
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: eye black and you know, and then he gets a

673
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: hit and he gets to first and he's calling time

674
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: out and he's taking off all of the gear and

675
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: he's no more Garcia paring his gloves. And I get it.

676
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean, kids emulate the athletes that they grow up watching.

677
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: I totally get it. But at the same time, I

678
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: can't deny. While I there is part of me that

679
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: feels like there is a parasitic nature towards watching and

680
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: putting pressure on these kids at a at like the

681
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: age of eleven and twelve years old, when I assume

682
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: some of them are probably playing because now schools are

683
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: starting earlier and earlier, And there's part of me that's like,

684
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: you know what, we watch the Little League World Series

685
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: and we applaud that these groups of kids are seemingly

686
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: even missing school to play in it. And that's all

687
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: well and good, but there is a hypocrisy to it

688
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: to an extent because if these were kids in an

689
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: AAU basketball tournament that were taking place during the school

690
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: year and being televised, and you had kids that were

691
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: emulating Lebron James, there would be like this outcry about it.

692
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: Or you know, with some sport like like tennis, is

693
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: one in golf for that matter, that the younger players

694
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: are as then they're listed as phenoms, whereas in other

695
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: sports when players are super young and they are there's

696
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: and is there a race element to this? Is there

697
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: a socioeconomic element to this? I think there is to

698
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: a great extent. But the Little League World Series I

699
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: can't deny that I end up partially because it's even

700
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: though I I realize now we're kind of out of summer,

701
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: because most schools are already back, it is still the

702
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: summer month, and when there's not a lot of other

703
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: sport on, I end up watching it almost by default

704
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: and finding myself entertained by it. And then I wonder

705
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: if that's not somewhat parasitic and hypocritical of me, because

706
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: there really is not a whole lot of reason that

707
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: I should be peering in on the happenings of a

708
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: bunch of sixth graders that I have no connection to,

709
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: nor do I have kids of my own. And then

710
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: I see some of the dads when they have them

711
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: miked up, these coaches and the coaches themselves, and I mean,

712
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: this is no disrespect and no indictment as a whole

713
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Speaker 1: on the vast majority of people that are coaching youth sports,

714
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: but the coaches at that level when they have them

715
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: micd up in whatever else, I feel like too often

716
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: it becomes uncomfortable to watch because what you're seeing is

717
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: men who are thinking it's about them and their coaching prowess,

718
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: like they're the next Tommy Lesorda versus just simply letting

719
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: kids have fun. And I see the pressure that the

720
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: kids have, and it seems like a lot of them

721
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: there's no joy in what they're doing. If they're winning,

722
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: there is, But like when the tea I mean, you know,

723
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Speaker 1: I'm watching some poor kid yesterday that walked like five

724
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: straight batters, and I'm thinking, I can't imagine, at the

725
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: age of twelve years old, how you handle that, right,

726
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: They're just I have this mixed emotion of what it

727
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: represents in all of us, like culturally speaking, in the

728
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: levels that we embrace it versus shun it and the

729
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: levels of which even myself, while not necessarily completely on

730
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: board with the validity of it being on television for

731
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: a regional game, yet I'm watching it, which is why

732
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: they air it, right. But I did think it was

733
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: also weird that a twelve year old kid's favorite player

734
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: with Sean Casey, who retired five years before the kid

735
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: was born. When I was twelve years old, my favorite player,

736
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was probably Joe Morgan, who I didn't

737
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: see a lot of. I mean, I saw him play,

738
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: but baseball cards, So maybe that's it. Maybe it was

739
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: baseball cards is why he's into Shawn Casey. But I

740
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: was thinking, Yeah, most kids, you'd think would say Kyle

741
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Schwerber or you know, Fernando Tatist Junior or Jotani.

742
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ellie Day, La Cruz, Bobby Witt.

743
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like what sort of television viewing

744
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: numbers it does. But I am genuinely curious whether or

745
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: not anybody else feels that way, especially somebody who doesn't

746
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: have kids. I mean, you know what I mean, Like

747
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I could see somebody being like, dude, why are you

748
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: watching this? It's not like I'm I'm reliving I guess

749
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: my own little league experience, but it was just a

750
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: completely different level, I mean, the Little league base But

751
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: now it's all wreck ball and all that. Now, Eddie,

752
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: you coached baseball and you played baseball. The Little League

753
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: World Series that you're watching now, is it truly like

754
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: little league kids or is this basically AAU teams or

755
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: travel ball teams?

756
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the former, there, Jacob's a bunch of these

757
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: kids are playing both little league and travel baseball, and

758
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 2: like they play year round, and they've probably been playing

759
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: together since they were six years old. Like it's probably

760
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: some formation of like they're all star team that started

761
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 2: when they were six. Next thing you know, they're playing

762
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: travel together and like most of these kids have played

763
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: with each other. They're in half their lives. So I mean,

764
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 2: even though it is the quo Unicuttle League World Series,

765
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: most these kids are already playing travel Okay at the

766
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: same time.

767
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Speaker 1: Okay, so so, but these are like all star teams

768
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: of a representative little league, correct, yep? Okay. Now the

769
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: other thing and I'm curious about is then I switched

770
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Speaker 1: over to a big league game. Okay, yeah, And as

771
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm watching that big league game and this sounds like.

772
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm asking is because it is within,

773
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: locally speaking, the parameters of what we're doing here. Okay,

774
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: but what are we doing here? What I'm saying is

775
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: it's within the parameters of what we do here talking

776
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: local sports or yeah, we're entertaining and educating. Major League

777
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: Baseball is not we educate and entertain. First off, major

778
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: League baseball is not in Indianapolis the straw mixing the

779
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: drink by any stretch. And it's not usually topic a

780
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: especially on a day when the Colts are getting ready

781
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: to take on the Ravens in a an organized practice

782
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: and a scrimmage and then later a preseason game coming

783
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: up on Thursday, and the Fever are going for their

784
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: six straight win tonight, which you can hear right here

785
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: on this radio station, and EDA Eddie will be on

786
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: the pre and post game. I mean, there's a lot

787
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: going on. But because it is a player that played

788
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: at Indiana, as I'm watching last night and Kyle Schwarber

789
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: comes to the plate and he hits his fortieth home run.

790
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: I believe this is the third or fourth, maybe fourth

791
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: straight season where he's hit forty home runs or more.

792
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: He is now thirty one years old, and as I'm

793
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: watching it, I looked up his home run totals. He's

794
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: somewhere right around three point thirty career, and it dawns

795
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: on me he is probably right now the most popular

796
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: athlete currently playing from Indiana University for IU fans. IU fans,

797
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: sure they like og Anonobi, sure they like Lily King,

798
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: But Anonobe is, you know in New York, Lily King

799
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: is you know, retiring Kyle Schwarber was I mean a

800
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: baseball player at Indiana obviously, like how many people even

801
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: followed IU baseball before Schwarber was there? But my question

802
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: is this, as they're talking about him and he hits

803
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: a home run and they're saying, you know, the fans

804
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: are channing MVP, MVP, assuming he stays on the same

805
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: trajectory and his career goes as most would based on age, deterioration,

806
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: et cetera. Is Kyle Schwarber a Hall of Famer? Ooh,

807
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: It's a good question, because he is undeniably. To me,

808
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer means one of two things. It

809
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: means either you were widely considered the best at your

810
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: position for the vast majority of your career, or that

811
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Speaker 1: you were a multifaceted player who was among the best

812
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: at more than one area of your expertise. Kyle Schwarber

813
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: does one thing. Hit dangers. That's it. He's not a

814
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: good defender.

815
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't play in the field much.

816
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: He's not yet. When he did, he was on roller skates, right.

817
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: He is not a situational hitter. I mean he's not.

818
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: He's not a hit for average guy at all. What's

819
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: his career I bet his career batting average is below

820
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: two forty two two. Yeah, I mean, but he has

821
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: what like the second highest number of postseason home runs

822
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Speaker 1: in major league history.

823
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: He's got twenty one.

824
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, keep in mind, Babe Ruth. You know

825
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: Joe Dimagio, Luga. I'm not saying all these guys were

826
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: home run hitters, but when you think about great players,

827
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: totally different era. In the fact that he now has

828
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Speaker 1: the Divisional round, he has the Championship Series, he has

829
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: World Series. They're playing best of five, best of seven.

830
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot different. The number of postseason

831
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: opportunities he gets is far eclipsing that of the vast

832
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: majority of legendary home run hitters in baseball history. But

833
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: he has timely home runs. He has timely hits, and

834
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: strangely enough, and I'm parroting what somebody else had said

835
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: to me today earlier, but I thought it was a

836
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: very good point. A team that will go down generationally

837
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: as a feel good, memorable beloved. Wrap your arms around

838
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: him and want to hug and squeeze him like your

839
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: own kid. World Series team and the twenty sixteen Cubs.

840
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: He is at this point the only even within sniffing

841
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: distance of a Hall of Fame, And so therefore is

842
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: he the one that they say he's got to go

843
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: in because somebody on that sixteen team needs to be in,

844
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: even though it's been with other franchises where he has

845
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: done his prolifics and he has been a winner at

846
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: virtually every I'm not saying he personally is the one

847
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: winning games, but he was. He won with the Cubs,

848
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: which had never won anything. He was on the Red

849
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: Sox and went to the postseason. He's been on the Phillies.

850
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: He's gone to the postseason every year, but what once

851
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: in his career.

852
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that series roster has three Hall of Famers

853
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: on it, which one John Lester will be in the

854
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or oldest Chapman will be in the

855
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

856
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't know that I gre with either of those,

857
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: but continue.

858
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: And then maybe maybe right now Kyle Schwarver, Yeah, you

859
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: think Lester's a Hall of Famer?

860
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: What are numbers? What's his what's his win loss? Let

861
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: me pull it up.

862
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: I mean he's without questional Hall of Famer in my opinion,

863
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: just amount of time, how long. Let's see his career.

864
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: He was two hundred wins, one hundred and seventeen loss.

865
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: Is a career eer a three point sixty six?

866
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that None of that says hall of fame. That's

867
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: hall of good. I mean typically three hundred wins is

868
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: the bench how many strikeouts strikeouts two and eighty eight? Yeah,

869
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: typically it's three hundred wins, three thousand strikeouts e RA

870
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: three to two or below.

871
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, But see now today in today's MLB, Jake wins.

872
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: That matter.

873
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: I got that.

874
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: That's fair.

875
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: And plus I mean he played for the Red Sox

876
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: and he played for the Cubs, Like, okay, he's going

877
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: to get in just because of that alone, probably, and

878
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: he was on a couple of World Series teams.

879
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: I'll push back on that Chapman and I don't dispute

880
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: has merit. But also I think Chapman's some of the

881
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: drama of eroaldis Chapman hurts him a little bit the

882
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: off the field, Yes, But but I also I guess

883
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I should have clarified even with that, I'm talking about

884
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: the everyday positional players, you know, the ones that the

885
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: but Chapman. How many saves does Chapman have career wise

886
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: at this point?

887
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: Oh, look, he's over three hundred, I believe.

888
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: I think Mac Ingle's going to join us at two o'clock,

889
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: and I think he's a He's a voter for the

890
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. So we'll ask Mac because it's

891
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: I mean, when it comes to current baseball, I'll trust

892
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: you more than me that you watch it more than I.

893
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: You're in our fifty six saves a role as Chapman.

894
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: How many does Lee Smith have? M good question, because

895
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: I think Lee Smith was the all time saved leader

896
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: at one time. That might well, I mean, how many

897
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: does Rivera have? He's got four to seventy eight? What's

898
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Rivera have? I mean, Rivera is obviously the criminal krem

899
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: but he also Sandman had six on fifty two unbelievable

900
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Chapman though. I mean, look the speed of Chapman's pitches

901
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: for sure, right I just I think of Schwarber as

902
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: Dave Kingman or Greg probably better than Greg Lazinski. I

903
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: think of Chapman as a as a Dave Kingman, great player,

904
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: great home run hitter. He has more timely home runs.

905
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Joel Erickson, by the way, speaking of timely, has time

906
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: to join us next. Colt's just getting underway with practice

907
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Now. Are they practicing in Baltimore or are

908
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: they like in Towson or something.

909
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: I believe they're in Baltimore. There's not many teams nowadays

910
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: take that practice. I know, off campus for a lack

911
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: of a better FRA.

912
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys are one, right, Don't the Cowboys still go to California? Yes?

913
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: I bet the Rams are off site somewhere.

914
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

915
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: They probably got to like Hawaii or something. The stealer where.

916
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: If you're the Rams, why would you go anywhere? You're

917
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles? They're the Rams stake. They always do

918
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: the extravagant stuff.

919
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: When I covered the Rams, they were in Macomb, Illinois.

920
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they have the most exciting place to

921
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: be was the Walmart. I think they may have had

922
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: like OTAs in Mexico or something. Really Yeah, okay, fair

923
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: enough joining us now, and I'm sure thrilled to be

924
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: doing so.

925
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: Joel A.

926
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: Erickson is with the Indianapolis Star. He is the beat

927
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: writer for the Colts. Joel, whar exactly did the Ravens

928
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: have their training camp? Are you aware?

929
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: I believe it's in Owings Mills, Maryland at their normal

930
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: performance center.

931
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: Owings Mills, Maryland. Yes, that's a fun sounding town, isn't it.

932
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Do you think that? Do you think it was an

933
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: old mill town?

934
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

935
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: And some guy named Owing owned them all?

936
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm interested in the fact that it's

937
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: like it's both plural Owings Mills. You know.

938
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is if Owing is the guy

939
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: that had the mills, then at the time he actually

940
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: was Owing owning mills, right, that's true? Yeah, I mean

941
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: the alliteration is just off the charts. Okay, we'll begin

942
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: with this not listed at quarterback. Okay, the depth chart yesterday,

943
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: So I'm taking the quarterback off the board for you.

944
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: That's the low hanging fruit. What when the Colts unofficially

945
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: released or you know, they released an unofficial depth chart.

946
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Was there anything that truly jumped out at you that

947
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: you were a little surprised of where they had someone

948
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: either to the positive or the negative.

949
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: Cameron mcgroon over Jalen Carlis at linebacker caught my eye.

950
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: All off season, we've kind of assumed that Carlis was

951
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: going to be the guy there, but they've got Carlis

952
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: behind him now, and that actually does fit somewhat what

953
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: we've seen in the field. They've rotated those linebackers all

954
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: over the place like it's the linebacker, I would say,

955
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: is the hardest one to keep track of who's playing

956
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: in what group, So it probably isn't settled yet. But

957
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: it's interesting that mcgron, you know, local guy with really

958
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: he's only played eight defensive snaps for the Colts in

959
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: his last three years, is listed ahead of Carlis. To me,

960
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: that was that was one that was interesting. And then

961
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: the other one was it was Tanner Borderlini over Danny

962
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: Pinter because they've been they've been pretty much neck and

963
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: neck in terms of reps throughout the first part of camp.

964
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: I thought, and I agree with that on Carlist, because

965
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: they they've been pretty high on him, right, I mean

966
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: they they vocally have talked of their praise of him

967
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: and been supportive of him.

968
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, especially from a front office level, from a

969
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: from a coaching level. I think, you know what, they

970
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: didn't have him in the in the May June portion

971
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: of it, spring workouts, whatever you want to call that,

972
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: and I think that maybe didn't help him getting started.

973
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 3: But yes, I I think everyone has assumed that that

974
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: spot has basically been uh you know, carved out there

975
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: for Carlis, and it's interesting that it seems to be

976
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: more of a battle there than we thought.

977
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: Okay, the other one that I found interesting, So let's

978
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: begin with this, Joel, They, in your opinion, will keep

979
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: how many tight ends?

980
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 3: I think four?

981
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So if you look at those four, you know

982
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: you've got obviously you know Tyder Warren, that's a given, right,

983
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: moali Cox, I think a given. Then you get Drew

984
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: Ogletree and Will Mallory. Maybe those two are interchangeable. It's

985
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: interesting to me because one and two meaning Warren and

986
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: moali Cox. Then if you were to look at the

987
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: style of play and what they bring to the table,

988
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: I kind of think as Mo as Mallory as a

989
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: poor man's Warren and Ogletree as a poor man's Moley Cox,

990
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: even though ogle Tree is a better receiver than Ali Cox, right,

991
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: So you get kind of all your bases covered there.

992
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: Jelantie Woods, to me was interesting because they have been

993
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: so patient with him and waiting out not one but

994
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: two years of injury. Is that just because they simply

995
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: wanted to see what he could do and he just

996
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: has not been able to rise to the occasion at

997
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: this point.

998
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing was they're just wasn't much

999
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 3: reason to cut ties with him from a contractual standpoint.

1000
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: He's not making that much to where you'd have to

1001
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: do it, you know, for monetary reasons, and you know

1002
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: he's on that rookie deal. He's he's been hurt. You

1003
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 3: might as well just keep him around to see if

1004
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: he can tap back into that.

1005
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 4: Now.

1006
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: I would say that, you know, the biggest thing is

1007
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: he's probably competing for a receiving not probably, he's competing

1008
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: for a receiving tight end spot because he's he's just

1009
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: not really a blocker from what we've seen on the

1010
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: practice field, you know, and that puts him up against

1011
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: Will Mallory because obviously Tyler Warren is your number one

1012
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: receiving tight end, and honestly, just Mallory's had a really

1013
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: good camp and Woods has been a little more up

1014
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 3: and down. So I think it's it's pretty obvious. But yeah,

1015
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: you hang on to him just because you know he

1016
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 3: was hurt last year. It's not like you could have

1017
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 3: traded him at you know, at cutdown day or something

1018
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: like that. I didn't, I was I didn't think he

1019
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: was going to make their off last year before he

1020
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: got hurt. So I think more than anything, it's just

1021
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: this doesn't cost that much. It's not hurting us. We

1022
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: can't there's no value we can get out of it elsewhere.

1023
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 3: Let's just take into camp next year and see what happens.

1024
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: Joel, what would you describe as a successful rookie season

1025
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: for Tyler Warren.

1026
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: Warren? I think I think to me, it's gonna have

1027
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: to be a little bit more of an eye test

1028
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: than a numbers test with Warren because I still have

1029
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: my doubts about whether or not the quarterbacks are going

1030
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: to give us a really good read on how a

1031
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: player is doing. You know, I think we all have

1032
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: kind of learned with with Alex Pearce that the quarterback

1033
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: can play an oversized role in how a receiver looks

1034
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: some or what one of the skilled position weapons looks.

1035
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: And so, you know, I think that it well, well,

1036
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 3: I think that you'd expect like sixty catches something like that.

1037
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: You can't do that because I just don't know what

1038
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 3: this team is going to be like as a passing

1039
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: team and how how many passes this team is going

1040
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 3: to throw. I think it's gonna have to be, you know,

1041
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: just us watching and saying, you know, what is this?

1042
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 3: What did this guy look like?

1043
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: You know, the guy that I on the roster am

1044
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: most intrigued by at this point. And Joel, I know

1045
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: this will stun you when I tell you this. I'm

1046
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: a late bloomer intellectually, okay. So I started getting serious

1047
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: about school when I was like forty seven, okay, okay,

1048
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: typically problematic with your early academic career. So I was

1049
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: asleep on this a little bit until I was really

1050
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: studying the roster. And then and only then when I

1051
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: studied the roster, did and I don't know if you've

1052
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: ever heard my and I have a wide array of

1053
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: characters that I do famously. Kids love it, people love

1054
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: it in public. Have you ever heard my British polo

1055
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: playing character that I do on the radio show Joel,

1056
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: I have not. He talks like this. It comes from

1057
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: the Highlands, right, you know the guy, he's got a pipe.

1058
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: He's in like a library. That's you know what I mean.

1059
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: There's a fireplace in the background. So that guy when

1060
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: he's studying the Colts roster, okay, he's looking at it.

1061
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: He said, yes, I'm not sold on Anthony Richardson. Okay,

1062
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: that's how he talks. And then I look at the

1063
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: roster and I see one name that jumps out of

1064
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: me and I go, that's it. This character that I've

1065
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: been doing on the radio for years now is named

1066
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: this guy. It is that That is the exact name.

1067
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: And so I need this guy on the roster for

1068
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the year to carry on this character

1069
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: because listeners of the show love it. They just love

1070
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: this this character. Kids in particular, would you like to

1071
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: guess what character or what player I'm talking about? What

1072
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: name on the roster is the British polo player. Yeah,

1073
00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: that's corrects Ward. You know, there's an out standing gus

1074
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: and many would think so. And he's not a bad player,

1075
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: but he's more of a botchy ball guy. Clearly, Clearly

1076
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: the guy that I'm doing here is Ulysses Bentley the Fourth. Oh, okay,

1077
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: obviously we need Ulysses Bentley the Fourth to make the roster.

1078
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: I need people walking around and I mean you got

1079
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: people walking around at games where Matt Bouza jerseys for

1080
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: crying out loud, Why out of Bentley? You can break

1081
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: out your Albert Bentley jersey if you'd like, and just

1082
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: put a fun IV on the end of it.

1083
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 3: Right.

1084
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: We need Ulysses Bentley the Fourth to make the roster,

1085
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: partially because his name is Ulysses Bentley the Fourth, partially

1086
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: because he's a twenty four year old rookie from Old Miss,

1087
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: and also because the running back position is one of

1088
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: those fungible positions where in week eleven, all of a

1089
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: sudden you get injury and some guy goes in there

1090
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: and goes eight carries for forty eight yards and it's

1091
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: a good story. Is please tell me that's going to

1092
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: be my man Ubi, which is my euphanism for Ulysses

1093
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: Bentley the Fourth.

1094
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 3: He needs he probably needs some space to clear in

1095
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: front of him for that to have I will say this,

1096
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: So he did. Uh. He had occupied a place that

1097
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: I always feel like it's the hardest position in camp

1098
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: is whoever the undrafted free agent running back is. I

1099
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: think that's the hardest position in camp because you're the

1100
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: only one that they'll allow that anybody will allow to hit,

1101
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: and so you get beat up way worse than anybody else.

1102
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 3: He got to catch a touchdown pass of the day. Uh,

1103
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: And I thought that that was a nice you know,

1104
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: thank you president for forgetting being the running back and

1105
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: all of the live sessions and everything like that, because

1106
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: you know that that undrafted spot you just get hammered.

1107
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: He's used to it. He's used to it. You know

1108
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: why he's used to it, Joe. Why have you seen

1109
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: the way they take things to the rugby fields in Scotland.

1110
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you for what it's worth, right, true, Ulyss,

1111
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: just Bentley the Ford, that's my guy. Okay, let's go

1112
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: to the quarterback position. Your anticipation of who will and

1113
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: I had I had kind of a a reverse psychology

1114
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: answer on this. But you believe that the guy that

1115
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: will get the most reps in this preseason game number

1116
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: one against Baltimore will be which ed quarterback.

1117
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: In the first game. I think it'll be Richardson.

1118
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe now the Green Bay game is the

1119
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: one preseason game number two, that's the one that everybody says, well,

1120
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: that's the real look of you know, that gives you

1121
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: the real indication of the depth in that one. The

1122
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 1: guy that you think will get the most snaps as Witch.

1123
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: Well, if I said Richardson for the first one, I

1124
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: have to say Jones for the second one, because Steichen

1125
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: told us that's how it was going to go. I'm

1126
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: thinking though, that the third pre season game is the

1127
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: one we need to watch because with joint practices before

1128
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: the first two, I'm not expecting the ravens of the

1129
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: Packers to play anybody that really matters to them.

1130
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: Because here's my thought. Then you tell me that I'm

1131
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: out of my mind here, Okay, I think that we

1132
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: meaning you, myself, Colts fans, whatever it might be. Okay,

1133
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: for that matter, Ulyssa S. Bentley the third might be

1134
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: thinking this right in hopes that his son makes a roster.

1135
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: So everybody looking at it is going to say to themselves,

1136
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones gets starting nods throughout the preseason, that

1137
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: that means he's won the job. But I think it's

1138
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: entirely possible that the Colts look at it and say,

1139
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: we made the mistake of giving the keys to Anthony

1140
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: Richardson too early in his career. So even if we

1141
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: feel he is going to be the guy in the

1142
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: regular season, we want to make sure that we are

1143
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: continuing to push him and that he is responding because

1144
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: he has responded to this first camp where he truly

1145
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: had competition. So therefore, we are not going to pull

1146
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: the reins off that competition until the eleventh hour when

1147
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: we finally have to make that decision officially. Does that

1148
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: make sense, Yeah, I think that it's going to be

1149
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: a while.

1150
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: You know Steichen said the other day. Him saying the

1151
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: other day that one guy is going to get more

1152
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: of the snaps in the first game, then the other

1153
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: guy's gonna get more snaps of the second game. Like

1154
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: that told me that we're already past where he was

1155
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: as a rookie in the you know, quote unquote competition

1156
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: with Gardner Minshew, which I think most of us, you know,

1157
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: don't seriously consider.

1158
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: To be that.

1159
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: And and I think I think you're right. I think

1160
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 3: they're going to push it out. I think they want

1161
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: to know for sure, and I think they feel like

1162
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: they can they can wait to do that. Like I said,

1163
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: I have that last preseason game earmarked just because it

1164
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: seems like every time there's a joint practice, whoever they're

1165
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 3: joint practicing against, is like, well, our starters have gotten

1166
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: their work on the practice, We're not going to expose

1167
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: them to the game reps. We're going to pull all

1168
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: those guys off. And if I was if I was

1169
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 3: Shane Steiken, I would want to see them in game

1170
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: action against some guys they might actually see on a

1171
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: Sunday in September or October instead of just the guys

1172
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: that they're trying to make the roster.

1173
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: Joel, if you're thirty four years old and you've been

1174
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: in the league for let's say you're a quarterback entering

1175
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: your eleventh season in the NFL. You're thirty four years old,

1176
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: would you rather right now go to New England and

1177
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: be the starter making nine million a year, or go

1178
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: to Kansas City or Buffalo and be the backup making

1179
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: six and a half million a year.

1180
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: It's a fantastic question.

1181
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: Has Joel already won a Super Bowl? No, Joel has

1182
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: been a starter.

1183
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 3: That is is.

1184
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: You know, a five hundred percent you know he's He's

1185
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: been a guy that has gone nine to eight for

1186
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: the majority of his career as a starter. This is

1187
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, Derek Karish type of gardner Minshire, right.

1188
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 3: I think I want the starting job.

1189
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 6: I think I want the starting job because as long

1190
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 6: as I have a chance of convincing somebody that they

1191
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 6: should pay me, you know, three years forty five million

1192
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 6: or three years fifty million or something next year, I

1193
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 6: think I want to take that. So if I go

1194
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 6: to New England and things fall the right way and

1195
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 6: I look pretty good, maybe next year I'm going to

1196
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 6: end up with the larger contract, whether I deserve it

1197
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 6: or not.

1198
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: Would you rather be Obi Toppin on this last year's

1199
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: Pacers team or gosh, I'm trying to think of who, like,

1200
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Poole on the Washington Wizards, Obi Topping

1201
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: for sure, Okay, even if the other one gets you

1202
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: paid more.

1203
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that. To me, that discrepancy

1204
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: is so so big that I'd rather much. I'd much

1205
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: rather be Obi top and I the thirty four year

1206
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: old quarterback is probably going to be back in free

1207
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: agency next year and may may get one last chance

1208
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 3: at a starting contract.

1209
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: What has to this point, Joel, what storyline has yet

1210
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: aside from quarterback? What storyline has yet to clarify itself

1211
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: and resolve itself with this Colts team during this training

1212
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: camp that you are surprised you are still having to

1213
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: write about.

1214
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'm surprised at the cornerback position

1215
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, looks if he right, you've got hamstring.

1216
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: Injury, right, I mean that give them credit. They had

1217
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: what we thought they had depth at that right. We

1218
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: thought like they had this really good cupboard and then

1219
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, two of the dishes fell out

1220
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: and got cracked right right right.

1221
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 3: So yes, exactly, Like that's the biggest thing is that

1222
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: is that you you thought you had depth there. But

1223
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: that's that's the position that all of a sudden, more

1224
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 3: than more so than anything else, that's the position where

1225
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: I'm going. I don't know, you know, we don't really

1226
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: know exactly what Ward is dealing with. Shane Sigen said,

1227
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 3: tightness in his legs. I think that's you know, as

1228
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: vague descriptions as you can get for a player's injury.

1229
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 5: Uh.

1230
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: And then you know, we know that James Jones suffered

1231
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 3: a pretty significant hamstr injury psyching himself told us that.

1232
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: And then Juju Brents, you know, is a player that

1233
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: has has struggled with this stuff throughout his career and

1234
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 3: also with the hamstring. And I think most sports fans

1235
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 3: know by hamstrings are unpredictable, and I think that that position,

1236
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm just going, man, they really thought that they felt

1237
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 3: like they had a lot of depth. I'm sure they

1238
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: still feel like they're okay for the regular season because

1239
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 3: it's a month away. But man, that's a lot of

1240
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 3: corners down already where you're seeing Jonathan Edwards, who's an

1241
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: undrafted free agent playing with the starters at cornerback.

1242
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: By the way, the okay, the tight end position with

1243
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. This is an assignment for you, Joel. This

1244
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: is a rainy day assignment for you, because I know

1245
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: you love those right. Of course, I'd like to know

1246
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: a list. I'll give you till the end of the

1247
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: year to come up with this, Okay, I'd like your

1248
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: the list of the twenty greatest NFL players all time

1249
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: whose first name and last name both are either the

1250
01:04:52,480 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: first or last name of a US president. Waiting off

1251
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: the top of my.

1252
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: Head, Roosevelt Colvin seems like he'd be on that list.

1253
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: Is there a president with the first or last name

1254
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: of Colvin? Oh?

1255
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: Both?

1256
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 5: Wait?

1257
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: I got the parameters wrong, both.

1258
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing for Tyler, Warren Tyler. Warren's

1259
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: got the double whaemie of John Tyler and Warren Harding.

1260
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean like basically bottom of the barrel here, right,

1261
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: But still two presidents, right, I mean one had the

1262
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: teapot domb scandal, the other got impeached. I mean, let's go, right, we.

1263
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: Don't have any we don't be president's named Reggie right.

1264
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: What's that? We don't have any president's named Reggie right?

1265
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: Actually, John Taylor did not. John Tyler did not get impeached.

1266
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: He just did not get nominated again by his own

1267
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: party after serving presidency, which is pretty bad. Uh, No

1268
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: president named Reggie correct?

1269
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: Man, I'm trying to think of. I was using the

1270
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 3: two bushes. I was hoping that was like, there's definitely

1271
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 3: got to be someone in there, man. I was hoping

1272
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: I could come up with one right off the bat,

1273
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 3: and it's not working.

1274
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and you realize what just happened here

1275
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: right about two thirty in the morning. And you know

1276
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 1: how much harder it's gonna be for the beer fairy

1277
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: to surprise you on the porch now, because you're gonna

1278
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: be up at two thirty in the morning sitting there

1279
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: thinking about damn President's right, That's exactly what's gonna happen.

1280
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: This is why you come on this program, is it not.

1281
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: It's I'm gonna look at every roster this year. I

1282
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: out there and go through it.

1283
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: Listen, listen. I'm telling you right now, people are in

1284
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: their car right now saying this guy in the radio

1285
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: is a complete idiot. And then tonight when they're sittinground dinner,

1286
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna go you know, I heard something interesting today.

1287
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is this is what goes on

1288
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: in this noggin that is essentially like four to sixty

1289
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Speaker 1: five rush hour traffic. It's just always jammed up, right, Okay, lastly,

1290
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: before we let you go, in all honesty, Joel and

1291
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. Joel A. Ericsson is our guest

1292
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: from the Indianapoli star. He is the cold speed rider,

1293
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: the thing that we really want to look for and

1294
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: see in this trip to Baltimore from this team aside

1295
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: from the obvious, but areas that you think that Shane

1296
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: Steichen or Chris Ballard might be looking at with more

1297
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: of a fine toothcomb than we would guess. And obviously, yes,

1298
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: depth a corner is an issue, and then obviously yes,

1299
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, but there are other areas, whether it

1300
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: be offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, whatever it may be,

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: what jumps out center.

1302
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 3: I think the Ravens are a great test for centers

1303
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 3: because they're going to bring a lot of blitz. They're

1304
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 3: going to make him do identification. Bordolini and Pinter are competing.

1305
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: It feels to me like that competition is a bigger

1306
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 3: deal than we think. I think center is a big one.

1307
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 3: I think this is probably something people were already looking at.

1308
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: But if they take a field goal, just pay attention.

1309
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: Spencer Strader has been much better than Maddicks Trujillo so far,

1310
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 3: but he hasn't been to the point that Brian Mason

1311
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 3: wants him to be as a special teams coordinator. He

1312
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: said he's he's at eighty seven percent the other day,

1313
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: and they would prefer him to be at ninety in practices,

1314
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: so anytime somebody kicks. And then the other thing that

1315
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: I I'm curious about is how does this defense, particularly

1316
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 3: the defensive line, look against Baltimore's offensive line. Whether it's

1317
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: in practice I believe they're practicing right now, or whether

1318
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 3: it's in the preseason game. I think the practice I

1319
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: care more because I'm assuming guys like the Forrest Buckner

1320
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 3: are probably not playing on Thursday.

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: By the way, didn't he didn't the Colts have a linebacker?

1322
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: And did they have an Andrew Johnson linebacker? Am I

1323
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: right or wrong in that they have an alex Andrew

1324
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: Jackson and Andrew Jackson linebacker? That's what I'm thinking, named

1325
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: Andrew Jackson Jackson. Did they have an alex Johnson corner?

1326
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: Does that count?

1327
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 3: With an Alexander and a Johnson?

1328
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 1: What what president was Alexander?

1329
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh, alex You're right, there's not one.

1330
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alexander Hamilton. See, I've always thought Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton,

1331
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 1: and Aaron Burr those are three guys that a lot

1332
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: of people think were presidents at one point, but they weren't. Yeah,

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: now here's the last thing, Joel, And I'm going to

1334
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: give you permiser to use this. And it's not often

1335
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: that I let people, you know, give permission to use

1336
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: my stuff, right, But in the NBA circles, I have

1337
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: the famous quariism of twenty twenty five guys. You've heard

1338
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: me mention this. Guys that score twenty a game on

1339
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: a twenty five win team their entire career. Okay, Kyle Kuzma,

1340
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: quintessential twenty twenty five guy. You've probably heard me mention

1341
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: this before. But with this situation that we're monitoring at

1342
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 1: corner for the Colts, I always say defensive backs and

1343
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: offensive linemen are the NFL's cell phone chargers and sunglasses.

1344
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: You can never have too many because just when you

1345
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: think you do, one of them breaks or you lose one.

1346
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: Every time, there you go.

1347
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 5: I like that.

1348
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: I like the offensive line is definitely true. I mean, yeah,

1349
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 3: I think most people feel good about the Colts offensive line,

1350
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: but if something happened to Bernard Ryman, everyone feel really

1351
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: very rat all of a sudden.

1352
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: You got to have a Swiss army. And that's one

1353
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: of the and I'm not saying left tackle is an

1354
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 1: area where he can do it. But people laugh at

1355
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: me when I say that a guy like Danny Danny

1356
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: Pincher has a lot out of value, but he kind

1357
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: of does because he is a Swiss army knife guy

1358
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: that can play at a couple of different spots for you.

1359
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: And that's important at line because you never know where

1360
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: a leak can pop up.

1361
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: There was that one year where they all play, they

1362
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: all started every game or something like that, and I

1363
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 3: think a lot of Colts fans are like, well, that's

1364
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 3: what happens with the offensive line all the time. Yeah, No,

1365
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 3: you just play every game and it's never happened again.

1366
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: I think it was like twenty nineteen was when it happened,

1367
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 3: you know, kind of like how you feel each time

1368
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: you come on the show. That's never going to happen again?

1369
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 3: Is what you say to yourself?

1370
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: Right?

1371
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: More often than that, absolutely not.

1372
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 4: I will always say yes to.

1373
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: The beer fairy.

1374
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you're not supposed to know the identity of it. Joel,

1375
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: All right, Joel, appreciate the time as always. You bet,

1376
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: you bet, that's our friend. The exhausted Joel ericson joining

1377
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: us on the program. Anything anything you want, anything you

1378
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 1: want to add Eddie. Sometimes I can tell Eddie that

1379
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: you're incredulous because I look over and you have the

1380
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: look on your face like you just had like three

1381
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: of the watermelon gummies.

1382
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 2: Zion Franklin not not out of practice, stayed due to

1383
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: a left ankle we have, I believe.

1384
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: Okay, not surprising because he's been working back from that. Obviously.

1385
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: He just started practicing what about a week ago when

1386
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: he was back out there for good.

1387
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: Saturday was his first practice and that was a bunch

1388
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: of individual drills, and then I think he went to

1389
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: seven on seven on Sunday.

1390
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: He is probably on a somewhat of a limited rep basis, right.

1391
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: I would assume, so yeah, I would assume, so yeah.

1392
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: We come back. By the way, mac Engle gonna join

1393
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 1: us two o'clock. Somebody else just made an interesting half

1394
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: Eddie on your behalf oh oh oh oh, that we'll

1395
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: get to when we come back here. Querry Company on

1396
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: the fan. I don't know if it's the fact that

1397
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to be back at the State Fair tomorrow.

1398
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: I open disclaimer. I'm not a country music person neither

1399
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: am I, but in the summertime I kind of like

1400
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: it because it reminds me of summer.

1401
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: Is because every other song is about a girl in beer.

1402
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just always about like being outside right around

1403
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: in your truck, being by the lake, you know, that

1404
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But Eddie's been on a big kick

1405
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: today for country music. What are we doing here? I

1406
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: don't know.

1407
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: Jake, just shaking it up, you know, shaking it up,

1408
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 2: that's what they say, right, Okay, changing it up.

1409
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson. Calvin Johnson might be the gold standard of

1410
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: players who have the first name and last name both

1411
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: of either the first name or last name of a

1412
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: US president. Pretty hard to argue that one. Somebody points

1413
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: this out when you were making the point that John

1414
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: Lester you think is a Hall of famer. Okay, they said, Jake,

1415
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: to Eddie's point, John Lester is a World Series MVP. Now,

1416
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, if that's true, big if true? Right, however,

1417
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: and you would put that in your favor, Eddie, in

1418
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: your argument that he is a Hall of famer, right

1419
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: when earlier you made the statement that you believe John

1420
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: Lester is a Hall of Famer. Yes, let me read

1421
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: to you a list. Okay, you were born in what year,

1422
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: Eddie ninety eight. Okay, Marianna Rivera, Derek Jeter, Randy Johnson,

1423
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: David Ortiz, end of list. Do you know what that

1424
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: list is?

1425
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm guessing those are people that aren't in yet.

1426
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: No, Marianna Rivera, Marek Jeter, Randy Johnson, David Ortiz. I

1427
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: don't know what that list is. That is every World

1428
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: Series MVP in your lifetime. That is a Hall of Famer.

1429
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: In other words, it's not like a slam dunk pre

1430
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Also, John Lester was not

1431
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: a world and I'm not calling that out. I had

1432
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: to look it up. He was not the World Series

1433
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: Most Valuable Player among World Series MVPs, and some of

1434
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: them are still active, so it's kind of unfair. But

1435
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: if you go back, David East was a World Series MVP.

1436
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: Edgar rent aia Edgar rint Aria with my favorite line

1437
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: of all time for a baseball player. You know this line,

1438
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: don't you, Eddie?

1439
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 3: I do not.

1440
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: Edgar Rittoria was a short stop for the Sand Louis

1441
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: Cardinals in the years that I covered the Cardinals two

1442
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: thousand and one, in that era ninety nine.

1443
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: God, I hated playing against them and or when the

1444
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 2: Reds did the Cardinals, Cardinals, Rentoria, Jady Drew poo Hooles,

1445
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: Craig Pulquette, Edmunds, Jim Edmonds, seeing Adam Waynwright, Fernando Tatis.

1446
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: Who was the other picture?

1447
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: Matt Morris or no nottt is it Matt Morris, Adam

1448
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: Wayne Wright. Well, when I was there, Darryl Kyle was

1449
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,879
Speaker 1: their ace. Rick and Keel was the rookie that imploded

1450
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 1: and then they moved him to outfield. Pat Hankin was

1451
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,520
Speaker 1: a pitcher for them. But you're thinking of Matt Morris probably.

1452
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 5: But the.

1453
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: That Cardinals team. I've told this story before. Edgar Renteria

1454
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: was a young player for them, very good player, shortstop,

1455
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: and after every game, you know, I mean you'd go

1456
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse and you'd interview different guys and you

1457
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: kind of got tired of you know, we'd always go

1458
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: to Edmonds, We'd always go to Will Clark. Those guys

1459
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: were Staples. Tattisse was a great interview, Mike Methani was

1460
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: a good interview and Renereo was the one player who

1461
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: was a very good player and a staple of that team,

1462
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: but he would never do interviews.

1463
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh, how could I forget John's favorite cardinal of all

1464
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: time necktat Yeah, I didn't have Molina's what he always

1465
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: call him neck tattoo.

1466
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 1: That Molina was just after that because their catcher when

1467
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: I was there was Metheni and then Carlos Hernandez was

1468
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: the guy that would catch and keel but or would

1469
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: catch I'm sorry, like knuckleballers. But anyway, Rentalria, over the

1470
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: whole course of the year, the two years that I

1471
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 1: was there, never did an interview, never once. And whenever

1472
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: you go up and ask him, he would, you know,

1473
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: he'd be like he would very like Coilish, you know,

1474
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: like coylely, like let you know, he didn't speak English.

1475
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: And then they win the division, they win the NL

1476
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: Central Crown. Chris Carpenter, that's who I was thinking of.

1477
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: Good picture. Yeah, and rent Rea. I walk up to

1478
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: him as everybody's popping champagne and spraying stuff and whatever else,

1479
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: and Rento Rea is on a cell phone and is

1480
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: having a conversation and is literally like, oh, it's awesome,

1481
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: it was great. I'm so excited, like we're optimistic. And

1482
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: he gets off the phone. I remember it's an old

1483
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: flip phone. He flips it shut in the little clamphone

1484
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: and I say to him, hey, man, I thought you

1485
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: didn't speak English, and he looks right at me my

1486
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: favorite quote of all time and said, uh, for you guys,

1487
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't my favorite quote ever. And I've always loved

1488
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: Edgar Rentrea ever since. I just thought it was super cool.

1489
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: Hi, Lake Garcia. I remember him from the eleven Cardinals

1490
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 2: team that won the World So Lance Lane, of course

1491
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: he was on that team as well. You're going later

1492
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven.

1493
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: N was on that World Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm

1494
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: talking about rhetor Ria was with the Giants. He was

1495
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: the He was the twenty ten World Series Most Valuable

1496
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: Player for the Giants. He was gone for the Saint

1497
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: Louis by that and then he went to the Reds.

1498
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was with the.

1499
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Speaker 1: Reds, wouldn't he? But it is funny when you look

1500
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: through the list of names of guys that have won

1501
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: that and the same is true of Super Bowl MVP's,

1502
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: you know, World Series MVP. It typically is in fact

1503
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: a list of more marquee players because you have to

1504
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: do it over the course of more than just one game.

1505
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: Same with the NBA Finals. But like a Super Bowl MVP,

1506
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, you get guys that are a Super Bowl

1507
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: MVP for one shining moment. Larry Brown is the problem,

1508
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: is the poster child for it. You get one great game,

1509
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: Larry Brown picks off Neil O'Donnell twice in the Super Bowl,

1510
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 1: becomes a Super Bowl MVP, gets a massive contract with

1511
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders, and is the biggest bust in the NFL.

1512
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: Well, I think you can make the same case for

1513
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball as well, especially in like today's age.

1514
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: They do they intentionally walk and pitch around guys that are,

1515
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: you know, right there at the meat of the order,

1516
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean Bonds.

1517
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: But if they would have won, If if San Francisco

1518
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: have won, Bonds would have been the MVP that year

1519
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: against the Angels. But he saw very few at bats.

1520
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: When he did, he hit home runs, but he saw

1521
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: very few at bats. Ben zieburst for the Cubs when

1522
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: they won it. Pike, Yeah, he's the.

1523
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: V Pablo Sandoval, He's not a Hall of Famer with

1524
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: the Giants, Het David Freeze. You know what's a week

1525
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: from tomorrow, Steve Pierce, Like there's another one like it?

1526
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: Just the box of Randos, Jorge Solo with the Braves

1527
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: and twenty one, seven days, eight days, a.

1528
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: Week from tomorrow. You want to guess, I know what

1529
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: it is. It's big Day.

1530
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 2: It's the game that you would stend every year, and

1531
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: you'll leave early and there'll be an immaculate inning or

1532
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 2: something in the ninth inning like last year.

1533
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: Exactly correct, White Sox game for me a week from tomorrow.

1534
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 2: Who they plan?

1535
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: By the way, Detroit kind of fading Detroit Tigers.

1536
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: Right, they're back at it. They're back on the they're

1537
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: on the upswing again. They're getting their ish figured out.

1538
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they went through a slump there, even though they

1539
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: got off to a great start and head margin for air.

1540
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: We come back. The Colts are on the practice field

1541
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: right now with the Baltimore Ravens. We will get you

1542
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: caught up on it and let you know what's happening

1543
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: out on the East coast. We returned to Quarrying Company.

1544
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: Now we're going on the old school here. I'd to

1545
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 1: go back in the day a little bit. I mean,

1546
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: if we're doing this, we might as well go with.

1547
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got some old school I could request

1548
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: for sure. You know, do have an update, Jake. You

1549
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: were just asking me leading up to the segment, if

1550
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: we had an update on Colts Campa from James Boyd

1551
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: literally just seconds ago eighty Mitchell so far cookie and

1552
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: one on ones against the Baltimore Ravens secondary and Anthony

1553
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 1: Richardson was first up with the team starters in the

1554
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: team period. There you go. Things got in away about

1555
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: what just about a half an hour ago, I think

1556
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: is when they really started kind of getting underway, the

1557
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: Colts and the Ravens for a joint practice session. How

1558
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: long will it be before our first fight?

1559
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: Richardson three of four so far in the first session

1560
01:19:55,439 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: of eleven on eleven's Daniel Jones two of two. I'm

1561
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: surprised we haven't had one yet.

1562
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: They just got underway, but there will be one for sure, right,

1563
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: But you always get that, you know what. I here's

1564
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: the thing. I hope that we find out when there's

1565
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: a fight, that the fight is because somebody took a

1566
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: cheap shot at Uliss Bentley fourth and the teammates jumped

1567
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: in and have us back. That's what I hope I want,

1568
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: my man, you before getting some love right. Interesting comments

1569
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: by the way that Rick Carlile made. Do you happen

1570
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: to have those? Eddie about mister Matherin. Yes, so, Rick

1571
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: Carlile was on a podcast with Cynthia Cooper. Am I

1572
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: saying that name correctly? Caitlin Cooper, Kaitlyn Cooper, so sorry.

1573
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: Cynthia Cooper is a former female basketball player. Kaitlin Cooper

1574
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: is a podcaster who is very very dialed in with

1575
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: the game of basketball. I mean, has a very good

1576
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: basketball mind. Her father was a coach, and I mean

1577
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: that like in depth level stuff x's and o's. Rick

1578
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: Carlisle has been very vociferous in his how much he's

1579
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: impressed by her and her basketball intellect as well. So

1580
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: when the two of them talk, it really was a

1581
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: good conversation because he just felt like you could tell

1582
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: that he was enjoying talking x'es and o's with her.

1583
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: Jake, he revealed to her, by the way, during the

1584
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: course of the conversation, before they got into the actual

1585
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 2: ex's and o's of basketball and talking about the Pacers,

1586
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: that he actually calls her and chats with her from

1587
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: time to time about different things during the things past her,

1588
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 2: right some I wouldn't say run things past her, but

1589
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 2: I think like bounce his ideas off of one another

1590
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: kind of deal in He thanks her because apparently rival

1591
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: teams have reached out trying to get some insight from

1592
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,919
Speaker 2: her on the Pacers, and she has declined.

1593
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: He did reveal to her publicly his approach and mindset

1594
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: regarding the role of Benedict Matherin in the upcoming season.

1595
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'll be I'll be real honest. You know,

1596
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: this is a part of Ben Matherins game that we

1597
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: keep talking to him about. You know, he's a he's

1598
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: a guy that is just a natural scorer.

1599
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 7: I mean, you put him in a you put him

1600
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 7: in a rat game with a bunch of switching and

1601
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 7: a bunch of physical stuff, and the guy's going to

1602
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 7: go find eighteen points and he's gonna shoot seven free

1603
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 7: throws at least. But the the pure elements of the

1604
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 7: passing and the quick decisions and stuff like that are

1605
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 7: things that he is. He's he's gradually getting and and

1606
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 7: he's going to get there. And I think, you know

1607
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 7: this year right now, and I'll break I'll break the

1608
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 7: news right here. You know, I'm projecting him as our

1609
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 7: starter at two this year. You know, I think you

1610
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 7: know on day one and I've told him, I told

1611
01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 7: him this. I was on the phone with him and

1612
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 7: his agent four days ago, and I said, I said,

1613
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 7: you're going to be with the starters on day one.

1614
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 7: It's your job to lose. But here's what we need

1615
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 7: from you. But Ben Matherin's going to get there. He

1616
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 7: has such great gifts as a score. Our job as

1617
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 7: coaches is to meld guys like him that aren't necessarily

1618
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 7: seamless fits into a style that is effective for the

1619
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 7: rest of the guys and bring both forces hopefully close

1620
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 7: together as time goes on.

1621
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: As of right now, and I mean, look, it's a

1622
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: little absurd because it's the first week in August, but

1623
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say their starters would be

1624
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: Andred Imhard Ben Matherin based on that, and I don't

1625
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:51,440
Speaker 1: think that's any huge surprise. Aaron Ne Smith, Pascal Siakam,

1626
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: and then I think it would be Isaiah Jackson to begin, right,

1627
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good I mean, it's not what we saw,

1628
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: but that's a pretty good hold, serf. We have seen

1629
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 1: with the Pacers. There have been plenty of teams, plenty

1630
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: of eras where we've seen and maybe you didn't even

1631
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: realize it in the moment, but you look back on it,

1632
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: now and you go, that was just a hold serve roster.

1633
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, I heard Jay and V talking the other

1634
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: day and it was a great point. I mean about

1635
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: when you know they're getting TJ. Warren dropping fifty three

1636
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: in a game in the bubble and you're like, oh, man, TJ.

1637
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: Warren and Malcolm Brogden, Man, I love this group. You

1638
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: know CJ. Miles and you know different players they've had

1639
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: come through here. Man, I love this CJ. Watson, boy,

1640
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: I love this guy. And you realize you're like, they're

1641
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: just holding serve, figuring out where they are. And yes,

1642
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: this is a year that's kind of a just hold serve,

1643
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: keep the table busy. But at the same time, you

1644
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: kind of like the roster. I mean, I think the

1645
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:08,520
Speaker 1: center is the big question mark, you know, between Jackson

1646
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: and as well Wiseman. I mean, Wiseman is intriguing because

1647
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: of his backstory and the fact that clearly this is

1648
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: not you know, this is a guy that multiple teams

1649
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: thought had a lot of potential about him, and when

1650
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: they signed him, he was obviously a high reward, low

1651
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: risk sign. There's a little bit more risk now because

1652
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: his role is elevated. But you know, nonetheless, and then

1653
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: Jay Huff. You know, I saw the other day video.

1654
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: People are like, look at this video, Jay Huff. He's

1655
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: driving all over the place, he's dunk and he's schooling guys.

1656
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: He's taken two steps back and hitting threes, and I'm like,

1657
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: this is all awesome. It's also coming in like the

1658
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: Tabernacle Men's Choir of Madrid, you know. I mean he

1659
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: was on like some Spanish league in the summertime and

1660
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: he was basically dunking on Eddie and John Herrick. So

1661
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you know, But I mean he looked fluid,

1662
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 1: and I think that there is intrigue about him because

1663
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: of his size at seven to one. But I don't

1664
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: think that he is a guy that immediately comes in

1665
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: and starts. But he does have some ability that mirrors

1666
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: what it was that Turner did, and by that I

1667
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: simply mean a stretch five that can shoot a little

1668
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: bit and has some range of motion and length defensively.

1669
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: But I have no idea how good he'll be. Isaiah

1670
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Jackson I really liked before he got hurt, and I'm

1671
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: intrigued to see what he can do. But Jackson and

1672
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Wiseman both neither one of them do I think of

1673
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: as fifteen foot and out jump shooters, whereas Turner had

1674
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: that ability. Not jump shooters, but shooters, and Turner had

1675
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: that ability. Mack Gingle, by the way, I think he's

1676
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 1: a writer for a voter for the Baseball Hall of Fame.

1677
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: But I wanted to have Mac on because number one,

1678
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: he's got a good story about Miles Turner, because Mac

1679
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 1: my childhood buddy, of course, But he writes for the

1680
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: Fort Worth Star Telegram, grew up here in Indie and

1681
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: now covers the cowboys, and the cowboys are just drama, drama, drama,

1682
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,639
Speaker 1: and he has boy what's that? The hellas cowboy? That's right?

1683
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: And he has a good Miles Turner relationship and has

1684
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: covered him since high school and had an opportunity to

1685
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 1: talk to Miles Turner since Turner left Indiana. Max gon

1686
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: to join us next, Eddie Garrison continues his tour of

1687
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 1: random bad country music, although I will admit again summertime

1688
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: like this is a fun concert, Kenny Chessey's fun concert

1689
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: joining us now in the program, and I'm sure thrilled

1690
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 1: because it feels just at home in Texas by hearing

1691
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: that kind of music. Mac Ingle is with the Fort

1692
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: Worth Star Telegram, native of Indianapolis, and there are all

1693
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: kinds of connections between the two. To be honest with you,

1694
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Mac probably is wondering why I wanted him to come

1695
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: on the show today, and Mac, I do think that,

1696
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: even though I want to talk to you about some

1697
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 1: Indianapolis based things, there is an element of you know,

1698
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys are a national brand, and you know,

1699
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: the NFL is the eight hundred pound gorilla. And it

1700
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: just seems like every year, but more so this year

1701
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: than most, your coverage of the Cowboys, you are right

1702
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: there in the biggest drama soap opera of the NFL,

1703
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: at least from afar. That's how it seems. What about

1704
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: when you're actually in the midst of it covering.

1705
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 4: Them, it's even louder. It's even louder. And I don't

1706
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 4: know if I have a real I think the best

1707
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 4: comp I could think of for Hoosiers is Indiana basketball

1708
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 4: under Bob Knight in the eighties, and you know, because

1709
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 4: he was such a personality. And obviously this is different

1710
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 4: because you've got players involved, and you've got a game

1711
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 4: that's you know, has a stranglehold on on America that

1712
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 4: certainly Eclipse eclipses the popularity of college basketball even back

1713
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 4: in the eighties. So you've got a handful of players

1714
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 4: who have star wattage. And then you have an owner

1715
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 4: who really reshaped sports consumerism in America and really globally

1716
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 4: since he bought the team in eighty eight. So and

1717
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 4: he's just completely poured gasoline over all of it because

1718
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 4: he recognized almost before anybody else that there was money

1719
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 4: to be made in just talking about it. And the

1720
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 4: more you talked about it, the more eyeballs that were

1721
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 4: drawn to it. And so we took a brand that

1722
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 4: was already renowned because of the success they had, and

1723
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 4: then he just completely turned up the volume on it

1724
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 4: to the nth degree. So now everybody's interested in it,

1725
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 4: even though they haven't won anything. Of notes nineteen ninety six.

1726
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 4: It's really impressive.

1727
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: It is Jerry Jones mac guilty of thinking that because

1728
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: he's been around it, that he is a smarter football

1729
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: mind than he is.

1730
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 4: Well, he has one thing going for him that no

1731
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 4: other owner I think in sports has going for them.

1732
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 4: I think Jerry played major college football. He was an

1733
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, which is hard to believe. If you look

1734
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 4: at the van, but he was an offensive lineman or

1735
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 4: the University of Arkansas national championship team back in I

1736
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 4: don't know however many sixty three or whatever year it was.

1737
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 4: And if you look up and down sports owners, none

1738
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 4: of them played. I can't think of any of them

1739
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 4: who plays.

1740
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Jim Mersey did peripherally, right, but I realize

1741
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 1: he's the late Jim Mersay now, but you know what

1742
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean here, You're right, Jim.

1743
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 4: Jim played a little bit, and certainly he had you know,

1744
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 4: he did some things on the side of weightlifting, and

1745
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,520
Speaker 4: so he put himself in the arena, Like you said, peripherally.

1746
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 4: But Jerry always had that going for him, and it

1747
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 4: was the one thing about his resume that he could

1748
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 4: point to. You wouldn't, I wouldn't, but he could point

1749
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 4: to and say, listen, I played the game. I was

1750
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 4: around this guy or this guy and this guy. I

1751
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 4: was on a team with Barry Switzer, I was on

1752
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 4: a team with Jimmy Johnson, I was on a team

1753
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 4: coach by Frank Boyles and blah blah blah. So he

1754
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 4: could use that as a solid point of sale to

1755
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 4: his football expertise and the guy's not a total idiot.

1756
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you think you'd be around from me for

1757
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 4: thirty years you would have learned something, and he has.

1758
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 4: But the inescapable reality of it is that he doesn't

1759
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 4: really put that much emphasis on some of the details

1760
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 4: that you might, or a coach might. His idea is

1761
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 4: that you give me the best talent, we're going to win.

1762
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 4: These coaches are pretty much all the same. They're all

1763
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 4: pretty good. He doesn't really distinguish one from the other.

1764
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 4: Even though most people would say, yeah, Bill Belichick with

1765
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 4: Tom Brady was probably better than Bill Belichick with Vitty Testaverdi,

1766
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick is still a good coach. And in Jerry's mind,

1767
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick was made by Tom Brady, so he that's

1768
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 4: just how he sees it, and so and then if

1769
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 4: you couple that expertise and arrogance and experience with the

1770
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 4: fact that he mercilessly markets anything that he does in

1771
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 4: the zombie like ambition to make more money no matter

1772
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 4: how much he has, well, now you've got this cocktail

1773
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 4: that is unlike anything that really we've seen in sports

1774
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 4: in the last fifty years.

1775
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: Okay, the Colts aren't really in the market for a

1776
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: pass rush guy. I mean they I think they think

1777
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 1: they have it in Leatu Latu Quinny Pay is probably

1778
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: just a guy, but he's okay. He's not great, he's

1779
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 1: just okay. But you know his first round do you

1780
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,799
Speaker 1: kind of want more? Dallas has it at Micah Parsons

1781
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: in an elite level pass rush end. But now that's

1782
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: the big drama. There seems to always be drama around

1783
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. What is the latest on Parsons and where's

1784
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: he going to end up?

1785
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 4: Well, uh, you know, he's their franchise guy. He's he's

1786
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor two point zero, which has a lot to

1787
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 4: put on a guy. But from a talent and athlete perspective,

1788
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 4: he's just he's amazing. I mean, he could be an

1789
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 4: Olympic caliber wrestler today if he wanted to, because he

1790
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 4: was a wrestler in high school with almost no effort.

1791
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 4: He was a guy who athletically would walk on any

1792
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 4: field and kick the hell out of anybody that he

1793
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,560
Speaker 4: was on the field with. And unbelievably that translated his

1794
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 4: Penn State and now it's translated to the NFL. Normally,

1795
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 4: you see that guy kind of weeds itself out and

1796
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 4: he kind of evens out. Well, Jake, this guy's still

1797
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 4: so good. So now he's the man, and now he's

1798
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 4: he's up for a contract extension, not this season but

1799
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 4: next season. But this is usually when you get those

1800
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 4: deals done, You get the extensions done the year before

1801
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,799
Speaker 4: they go into the final year of their rookie contract.

1802
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 4: So now he's been going back and forth directly with

1803
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 4: Jerry Jones, not the agent, and the agent a big

1804
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 4: powerful guy in the NFL, guy named David Mugilea, says well, no,

1805
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 4: I need to be a part of this, and Jerry's like, no, no, no,

1806
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 4: I want to be able to directly with the player. Well,

1807
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 4: of course he does. Because the players, it's easier to

1808
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 4: take advantage of it. Even though even though Jake taking

1809
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 4: advantage of players and NFL contracts is almost impossible anymore

1810
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 4: because of these contracts now are mostly predetermined because of

1811
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 4: the collective bard.

1812
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: The players Association and all that.

1813
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, this is done.

1814
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 4: He's going to get basically what Miles Garrett got and

1815
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 4: then TJ. Watt got. It's going to be something really

1816
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 4: close to that. It's done, maybe a little bit more,

1817
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 4: but effectively, just look at what of those two guys

1818
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 4: got and what he's gonna get, but it hasn't been

1819
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 4: ironed out yet. You know Michaeh. Parsons who has his

1820
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 4: own podcast, of course, and to recount all this other stuff, well,

1821
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 4: he's banging the drum to create noise intention to try

1822
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 4: to get this done. The point where he does something

1823
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 4: that no other Cowboys player has ever done. We were

1824
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 4: talking about this. Micah Parsons requested the trade. All these

1825
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 4: guys who've been in contracts baths with Jerry Jones have

1826
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 4: never requested the trade. None of them want to leave

1827
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 4: the Cowboys because you could make so much more money

1828
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 4: as a cowboy in peripheral stuff and marketing opportunities, which

1829
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 4: is limited anyways in the NFL, but you can make

1830
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 4: more doing that than you would be if you requested

1831
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 4: and were granted a trade to say Jacksonville or you know,

1832
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh or something. So Micah has done that and that's

1833
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,639
Speaker 4: what has set this part. Would they trade him. They're

1834
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 4: not going to trade them.

1835
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna sign them. Right, He's gonna get the money, right.

1836
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 4: They'll get the money. I would imagine what it was

1837
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 4: in August fifth or something. I would imagine around the

1838
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 4: twenties or something. Maybe maybe they wake to the eleventh hour.

1839
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 4: But you and I both know players of that ability

1840
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 4: in Calboy. They don't. They're not. They weren't going to

1841
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 4: play in the preseason anyways. I mean, there's more value

1842
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 4: now in not playing football than in playing football because

1843
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 4: all the everybody's terrified of injuries in every sport. So

1844
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 4: now this guy wasn't going to do anything anyways. So

1845
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 4: he's out of camp in California, collect making sure that

1846
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 4: he doesn't get fined, but he's not doing anything walking

1847
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 4: around talking to coaches. I mean, guy's a freaking athlete.

1848
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 4: He's fine, but he's not going to get traded. If

1849
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 4: just for the sake of argument, let's just say it

1850
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 4: goes to that bad and they say, Okay, give us

1851
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 4: your best offer. I would think the Colts, because I'm

1852
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 4: not sold. Who the kid from UCLA that they drafted. Yeah,

1853
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 4: no way, I can't believe they drafted him. I had

1854
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 4: that surgery and I realized him twice. I'm a middle

1855
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,919
Speaker 4: aged man. But I'm like, they're all lying to themselves

1856
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 4: about the long term ramifications of that surgery, lying just

1857
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: full of it. He might be really good now he's

1858
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 4: not going to age. Well he's not. So if they

1859
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 4: go on and let's say they say, okay, ge wi ish,

1860
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 4: if we can get Michael Parsons, let's do this, it's

1861
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 4: going to be at least number ones. Jim Mersey's ghost

1862
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 4: is not going to come in and pull a Fred

1863
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 4: Young and give up two number ones for Michael Parsons

1864
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 4: or anybody else that isn't a quarterback. So I can't

1865
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 4: see any team giving up two number ones to acquire

1866
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 4: a phenomenal defensive player as good as he is.

1867
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: You know, when you look mac at like where the

1868
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: Colts are, and I'm curious from your standpoint, I think

1869
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: that we you know, this is a franchise and a market,

1870
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: and you know this, you're from here. You know, we've

1871
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: been pretty spoiled in the fact that the Colts have

1872
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: just you know, for years they fell out of bed

1873
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: and won twelve games, right, yep, Yeah, And it's hard

1874
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: to grasp that since their last AFC South title, every

1875
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 1: other team in the division has won it twice since

1876
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: the Colts last won it. From your perspective, taking your

1877
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: connection to Indianapolis out of it, what is the Colts

1878
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,919
Speaker 1: level of relevance in the NFL right now in twenty twenty.

1879
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 4: Five, bottom third. You know, when we were kids growing

1880
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 4: up there the only reason why the Colts were interesting

1881
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 4: when they moved from Baltimore Indianapolis. They had a new

1882
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 4: facility and they had the stain nationally of having left

1883
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 4: There's at Baltimore in the middle of the night. And

1884
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 4: then they traded for Eric Dickerson. That was a big deal.

1885
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 4: But other than that, they weren't really relevant until you know,

1886
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 4: they had that quick bump with Jim Harball leading them

1887
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 4: to the AFC Championship Game and damn near winning it.

1888
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 4: But you know, that franchise had mostly been a bottom

1889
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 4: five team until Peyton Manning and Bill Polling and that

1890
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 4: whole thing lined up and they made a generation of

1891
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 4: Colts fans. And I don't think I ever shared this

1892
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: with you. I remember visiting with Tony Stewart, the NASCAR driver,

1893
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 4: and I introduced myself to being from Indiana, and we talked.

1894
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 4: He was great, and I said, how is it now?

1895
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 4: He said, you wouldn't believe it. He said, the Colts

1896
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 4: have completely remade that state. He said There's he said,

1897
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 4: it'd always be basketball, but football has a place now

1898
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 4: next to it because of the Colts On that on

1899
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 4: that mantle in terms of priorities. Well now ever since

1900
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 4: the Andrew Luck retirement, we look at it. I mean,

1901
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 4: it sucks. I hate it for the city, you know,

1902
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 4: so I hate it for my family. I hated for

1903
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 4: my friends. I hate it from you all because you

1904
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 4: it really does help and it is a point of

1905
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 4: civic pride. When the team's pretty good. You know, you're

1906
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 4: not going to win super Bowl every year. But I

1907
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 4: would say where they are now, they're not where they

1908
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 4: were when we were kids and they were first moved

1909
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 4: to town and they were awful, and you know, barb

1910
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 4: Ursay had no idea what he was doing. But you

1911
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 4: know I would say, I mean, Jake, as much as

1912
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 4: I hate to say it, I would be willing to

1913
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 4: bet all of my money. I may have said it

1914
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 4: to you on your show. I'd be willing to bet

1915
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Speaker 4: all my money half of that building, the Colts building,

1916
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 4: Thanks Anthony Richardson can't play and they need to move

1917
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 4: on and they'll.

1918
01:39:58,320 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 3: Never do it.

1919
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,559
Speaker 4: They have they have to s through. But until they

1920
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: get that position fixed, I don't think a lot of

1921
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 4: people were really thinking about the Indianapolis cult these days.

1922
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 1: Mac, How old were you, Mac Engles, our guest Fort

1923
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: Worth Star Telegram in that capacity in covering sports in

1924
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: the Dallas Fort Worth area? How old was Miles Turner

1925
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 1: the first time you met him?

1926
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 4: Miles was a senior. He was going into his senior

1927
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 4: year of high school, being recruited by everybody and their

1928
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 4: brother in the state and nationally. A five star kid

1929
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 4: at a local public high school. And what's interesting about

1930
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 4: that is that was ten or eleven years ago. A

1931
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 4: player of that caliber now probably would not be at

1932
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 4: a public school. He would be at some private school

1933
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 4: on scholarship. But he was at a public school and

1934
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 4: one of the more charming, bright young guys I've ever

1935
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,560
Speaker 4: had a chance to visit with, and he made a

1936
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 4: fan out of me. I really enjoyed getting to his dad,

1937
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 4: David Turner. But he was a hell of a player

1938
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 4: on a team where he had no help. I mean,

1939
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 4: he just he should have won a state championship. But

1940
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 4: he was on one of those teams where he was

1941
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 4: the best player by leaps and bounds, and he just couldn't.

1942
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:06,280
Speaker 4: It literally was one on side.

1943
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 1: And I would assume Mac, in that capacity, you have

1944
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's disingenuous to say, like, well, you've stayed

1945
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:15,680
Speaker 1: in great touch with him, and you guys talk all

1946
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: the time. But I would assume that when he comes

1947
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: back to the Dallas Fort Worth area, you have covered him,

1948
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: or interviewed him, or made the connection about Indiana and

1949
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: et cetera in that capacity within those conversations. Were you

1950
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: surprised the way things ended here in Indiana?

1951
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 4: I think the only because I've done this long enough,

1952
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 4: Like you, the surprise of it is gone, I put,

1953
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 4: let me, let me change that, the shock of it

1954
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 4: is gone. But I was surprised. I was surprised only

1955
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 4: because I had heard Rick Carlisle and maybe other members

1956
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 4: of PACER's management keeping him was a priority and the

1957
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 4: other part that, and then he was gone and everything

1958
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 4: I read, the Bucks just came in and blew him away,

1959
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 4: and Indiana didn't want to match.

1960
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 1: And Indiana didn't get a chance to match it though,

1961
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: mac is the thing, right, I mean? And I think

1962
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: that's what surprised Indiana is that Miles Turner. And the

1963
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: reason I ask it is this not to lead the

1964
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: witness here, but so so Miles Turner, by all account

1965
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 1: here sits down or his representation does. And the Pacers

1966
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: don't know that Miles Turner has a pending offer from Milwaukee,

1967
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: and the and the Bucks basically say, look, here's this offer,

1968
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: and you take you take it, or you leave it,

1969
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: and you cannot give Indiana a chance to counter. And

1970
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: Indiana throws their offer out and he says, I'm taking

1971
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's then, And they didn't realize it at that moment

1972
01:42:55,080 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: that Milwaukee was in play by knowing him and knowing

1973
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: him at an age or seeing him at an age

1974
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: where he was more vulnerable and influenced. Does that then,

1975
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 1: when I say it that way, surprise you that that

1976
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 1: he would have been that eager to act and act

1977
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: in that way is the wrong way of saying it.

1978
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: But act upon that.

1979
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really, you know, I I you know, I

1980
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 4: was texting you occasionally doing the Eastern Conference Finals and

1981
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 4: NBA Finals, and I wore a little bit of that

1982
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 4: one on my sleeve. The kid, the pacer kid, Pacer

1983
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,759
Speaker 4: fan and me really came out the sherit, the sticker,

1984
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 4: the pennant. I was really into it, and I was,

1985
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 4: you know, I was somewhat biased because and I've interviewed

1986
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 4: Miles and I've I wanted to see him do well,

1987
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 4: and I know he's I know that he has been

1988
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 4: a good steward and ambassador for the NBA and the

1989
01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 4: Indiana Pacers in Indiana, Uh, dealing with we's been out

1990
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 4: in the community. That's worth something. Thing. Yeah, I don't

1991
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 4: know how much it's worth, but it's worth something. It's

1992
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,560
Speaker 4: not nothing. And I've commended him for that. And I

1993
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 4: wanted to see guys like that stick around, and I

1994
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 4: want to see him do well. And when he didn't

1995
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 4: do well in the NBA Finals, and I don't think

1996
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 4: anybody could sit there and say, well, no, he did, Okay,

1997
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 4: it's not the number no, And he just didn't. He

1998
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 4: didn't he unless I unless, Jake, you watched something that

1999
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 4: I didn't see. I saw a guy who was completely

2000
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 4: overmatched and had no place in that series whatsoever.

2001
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 1: He has come back to Dallas Fort Worth. Correct. Have

2002
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 1: you got a chance to talk to Miles Turner since

2003
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 1: his knowledge of teach?

2004
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:39,599
Speaker 4: No, he came back.

2005
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me back that up.

2006
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 4: Let me ask you that I want to ask you

2007
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 4: that question. Do you think he had a place in

2008
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 4: that in that final series? Or they completely exposed him?

2009
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 4: And took him away.

2010
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: Uh, exposed is probably the wrong word, but yes, I

2011
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: think he was taken away, you know what I mean,

2012
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: took And to.

2013
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 4: Answer your question, yeah, he was back. And can I

2014
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 4: share the anecdote that you and I talked about?

2015
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, have that great.

2016
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Speaker 4: So he comes back to Dallas for Worth and he's

2017
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 4: going to work.

2018
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 3: He's going to do a.

2019
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 4: Public appearance at a fast food place that's popular in

2020
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 4: the Southwest. I don't know if it's over southeast rather,

2021
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's in Indiana or not, a

2022
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 4: place called Raisin Kine's Chicken. And the PR guy from

2023
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 4: Raising Kaine's Chicken reaches out to me and says, I

2024
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 4: would love you to come out and talk to Miles.

2025
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 4: I know it's the last minute, would you like to

2026
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 4: do it? And I'm like, oh my god, yeah, love

2027
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 4: to see him again. This would be great. And it's

2028
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 4: twenty minutes from my house, which the ease of it

2029
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,839
Speaker 4: was like, oh yeah, let's go. So the guy emails

2030
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 4: me he said, what do you want to ask Miles,

2031
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 4: which has now become standard, And I said, well, coming

2032
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 4: back to the DFW, the NBA Finals, making it all

2033
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 4: the way to the finals. Leaving Indiana and going to Milwaukee,

2034
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 4: guy says, when you ask about raising Kaine's chicken, I said, yes, absolutely, sure,

2035
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 4: of course, for sure. That's that's could pro quo, that's

2036
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 4: totally normal. Minutes later, I get an email says Miles

2037
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 4: team says, no questions about the Pacers, Bucks or the finals,

2038
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 4: only questions about coming back and raising Cane's chicken, to

2039
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 4: which I said, absolutely not. I mean, I can't be

2040
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 4: a total, just walking commercial influencer. I have to be

2041
01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 4: able to ask him a couple of things about basketball,

2042
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 4: because if I'm not, and what am I even doing

2043
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 4: there other than being, you know, an influencer. So I

2044
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 4: was like, no, I'm not gonna go. I can't do

2045
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 4: that unless you want to give you a thousand dollars,

2046
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 4: which you know I'm saying a tongue in cheek. No,

2047
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 4: I didn't see him. I wanted to. I wanted to

2048
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 4: congratulate him, and I'm like, no, I'm not going to

2049
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 4: totally debase myself yet unless you're gonna give me more money.

2050
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 4: But no, I didn't see him, and I was, you know,

2051
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 4: like I said, Jake, I was really bummed for him.

2052
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 4: I'm happy he got a bunch of money. Good for him,

2053
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 4: But I don't know when Allie sits in Milwaukee. I'm like,

2054
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 4: how is that gonna work? But those guys are a

2055
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 4: lot smarter than I am, so maybe it'll work out.

2056
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: Mac, you're an influencer, I totally am.

2057
01:46:58,160 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm not fooling myself.

2058
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: Anymore Instagram influencer. I know this around. I mean, I

2059
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:06,919
Speaker 1: can't go anywhere. Whether you're going around, you're taking selfies

2060
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: the whole time. I get it right, I mean, I'm.

2061
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 4: Telling you I made the wrong career choice. If I

2062
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 4: was a young, hot blonde ESPN would be burying me

2063
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 4: in money right now as a social commentator influencer. I

2064
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 4: made a huge mistake when we were kids at that

2065
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 4: one to the list.

2066
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, right, And so it works all right,

2067
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: Mac Engle fort Worth Star Telegram. So Michael Parson's going

2068
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 1: to stay in Dallas, right, and Leatu Latu not going

2069
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,919
Speaker 1: to be another market Michael Parsons, uh yes.

2070
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 4: And Mike is not going anywhere. And I would give

2071
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 4: that kid, the UCLA kid, a good three to five

2072
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,799
Speaker 4: year window, and anytime after that I'd be holding my breast.

2073
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: And that's me. He It was a neck surgery that

2074
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:46,800
Speaker 1: he had right.

2075
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 4: Next husion surgery. And what happens is now he's a

2076
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 4: lot younger than I am pro athletes, so I'm not

2077
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 4: kidding myself. But what does happen is that it does

2078
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 4: degenerate somewhat and it's harder to remain it hard to

2079
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 4: remain to maintain your strength. That's that's what I've noticed.

2080
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 1: Gotcha all right, Mack, appreciate it, man, enjoy the summer

2081
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: down there.

2082
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 3: Great talking to you.

2083
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 1: Thanks, It's only one hundred and fifteen degrees down there,

2084
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Matt angle fort Worth Star Telegram. Interesting stuff though.

2085
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that the Cowboys are just one of

2086
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: those franchises that like when they they do move the needle,

2087
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: which is funny because why, I mean, it's literally been

2088
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: thirty years of the Cowboys are if you had to mention, Eddie,

2089
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you follow this stuff right, Like from a

2090
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,479
Speaker 1: national standpoint, how many franchises can you name that are

2091
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 1: more often in the news when it comes to the

2092
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: NFL annually year round, more so than the Dallas Cowboys.

2093
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears maybe, but that's about it. You think

2094
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 2: the Bears, Oh yeah, every year there's something yeah.

2095
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: But I mean like it's I'll push back on that.

2096
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 1: I guess just because they're they've had the number one

2097
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: pick a couple of times recently. But like in terms

2098
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: of the Bears always have a storyline around them, I guess,

2099
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 1: But in terms of like coverage from camp and etc.

2100
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 1: It's like the Cowboys just seemingly are always Jerry Jones

2101
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 1: is the almost visible owner, is it not?

2102
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, he is, and he's the only owner gm

2103
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:17,600
Speaker 2: isn't he?

2104
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean the bus and the whole thing, right, I mean,

2105
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:21,799
Speaker 1: it's just non stop drama.

2106
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 2: It feels like not the lack of personal hygiene as well,

2107
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: or that's not.

2108
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 1: He does not carry hand sanitizer. I wish he did.

2109
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 1: I wish he did. All Right, we'll get you caught

2110
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: up on what's taking place in Baltimore right now. Anthony Richardson.

2111
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 1: We had mentioned three for four early on in their

2112
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: practice against the Ravens. The culture Practicing Right Now organized

2113
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: practice preseason game on Thursday against the Ravens, and Stephanie

2114
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,679
Speaker 1: White talked with us earlier the latest on Caitlin Clark

2115
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,040
Speaker 1: and her availability. We will let you know what was

2116
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: said next Practicing Right now with the Baltimore Ravens, and

2117
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: one player had a message for James Boyd and Steven Holder,

2118
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: which I will let you know about. Apparently it is

2119
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: the player who right now is having the best showing

2120
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 1: against the Ravens in these practice sessions. But before we

2121
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: get to that earlier, Stephanie White joined US Fever and

2122
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: Action tonight taking on the Sparks of Los Angeles in LA.

2123
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: That game a ten o'clock tip. Eddie Yes to be

2124
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: home with the pregame at what time nine and Eddie

2125
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 1: Will had the post game as well, and we talked

2126
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 1: about a number of things with Stephanie White today, but

2127
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: among those, obviously the big question is that of the

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01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 1: availability of Caitlin Clark. The Fever of won five straight games.

2129
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,719
Speaker 1: In those five games, they have had three different players

2130
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 1: that at some point have been their leading score. Aliah

2131
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: Boston is the Eastern Conference Player of the Week or

2132
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: player the month actually and week is it weak week?

2133
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:03,760
Speaker 5: She is on.

2134
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 1: A streak of five or six straight double doubles six

2135
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: Eddie points out to me franchise record and the Fever

2136
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: are going for their sixth straight win tonight. But the

2137
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: big question still remains that of Caitlin Clark and whether

2138
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 1: or not she will and when she will make her

2139
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: return for the fever and for that matter, even to

2140
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: the practice floor here as head coach earlier today, Stephanie White, Yeah,

2141
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean.

2142
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 5: There's there's no changes yet, you know, continuing to go

2143
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 5: through this rehab process, you know, beginning to do some

2144
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 5: to do some running and and build some endurance and

2145
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 5: continuing to take it to take it's low and make

2146
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 5: sure that when when she does come back, when she

2147
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 5: does return to court activities, that she's one hundred percent

2148
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 5: ready to go.

2149
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 1: So that's where things stand with that. So no, you know,

2150
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: and you could tell there was not that that was

2151
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 1: going to be the case. Really, there was no indication

2152
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: that it would be otherwise. Fever and action.

2153
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 2: It's so bad for Stephanie. Why in this sense, Jake, Like,

2154
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 2: just because the attention that Kitlyn Clerk gets from you know, viewership, fans,

2155
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,560
Speaker 2: et cetera. Like I feel like she could recite that

2156
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 2: by by now in her sleep on that reply. Probably true,

2157
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 2: just because.

2158
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I mean she gets asked you by yeah the interview, right, right,

2159
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: But they want to get her practicing for a while

2160
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: before she gets into games, which is why I still

2161
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 1: believe I'm going to stick by it that it's going

2162
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 1: to be after that game on the seventeenth, where they

2163
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: have five days off before they play again on the

2164
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: twenty second, but a couple of games to play before

2165
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 1: between now and then.

2166
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 2: That could be a fun one JET because they would

2167
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 2: face Minnesota, would be the first matchup in the regular

2168
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 2: season between the two teams, and yesterday was announcing that

2169
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: a Fisa Colliers missing at least two weeks and that

2170
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 2: puts her return around that same timeline of good. Fisa Collier,

2171
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 2: who's currently probably the odds on favorite for the MVP,

2172
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: and Kitlyn Clerk reunite.

2173
01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 1: And they played once, obviously in a game that does

2174
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 1: not go against the regular season standings in that n

2175
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: Season tournament championship that the Fever had won. Okay, As

2176
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,839
Speaker 1: for the Colts, Steven Holder James Boyd standing on the sideline,

2177
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: a guy for the Colts made a play, looked at

2178
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: both of them, made a comment that was apparently had

2179
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 1: an expletive in it in reference to basically pointing out

2180
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: that Baltimore cannot stop this particular guy. He then made

2181
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: another great play, looked at Boyd and Steven Holder and

2182
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 1: said essentially like see, I told you so, and I'm

2183
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: talking about what apparently is the continuing practice emergence of

2184
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell, who is having a good practice against the

2185
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 1: Ravens to this point. So that is where things stand

2186
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:59,760
Speaker 1: with the Colts practice today. Anthony Richardson started out he

2187
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks to be started taking reps from or

2188
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 1: with the starters in that particular practice. Again, I don't

2189
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: know that you read a lot into which one is

2190
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 1: getting the first snaps, but rather how well they're playing.

2191
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:20,719
Speaker 1: And at last report Richardson was, you know, was throwing

2192
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 1: the ball well, so too though was Daniel Jones. Both

2193
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: of them essentially in rhythm.

2194
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 2: So something to add to that, Jake, I think that

2195
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: speaks largely of the Cult secondary and how confident Loui

2196
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 2: an Rimo chance Sta can have been, because there have

2197
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 2: been days where the two Cult quarterbacks have looked bad

2198
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 2: and we didn't know, you know, the Tracker group would

2199
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 2: tell us that it's largely because of the two quarterbacks,

2200
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 2: but Lamar Jackson was two of seven in the eleven

2201
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 2: to eleven period earlier, So when they're doing this against

2202
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 2: you know, an actual respectable quarterback, it was at two

2203
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 2: times MVP and one of the best in the league.

2204
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 2: And Lamar Jackson, I think that's you know, largely to

2205
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 2: how well that secondary is for the Colts and that

2206
01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 2: maybe there I've been strides for both of these quarterbacks

2207
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 2: with you know, the system changed for Daniel Jones and

2208
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 2: then some of the focuses of impermit mechanically for Anthony Richardson.

2209
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Zire Franklin, by the way, not practicing today. That's not

2210
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: a huge surprise because Zire Franklin, of course coming back

2211
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: off of the ankle surgery and was a late kind

2212
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: of addition to camp itself, and once I'm sure he

2213
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: is basically on a pitch count getting out there because

2214
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: of the fact that you want to be careful with

2215
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: that ankle and make sure that you are gingerly going

2216
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 1: through it. And you probably have the benefit of the

2217
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: fact that with a guy like Zire Franklin, you know,

2218
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: he's got a pretty good idea of what needs to

2219
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: be done and what he's doing. So in that regard,

2220
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: that's where things stand with him and the way things

2221
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 1: are going. You had mentioned Eddie, the Caitlin Clark situation

2222
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 1: with Stephanie White. Yes, I think sometimes with players, with

2223
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: any player, you weigh out when you are determining whether

2224
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 1: to draft a player, whether to sign a player, whether

2225
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: to start a player, whatever it might be, you weigh

2226
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 1: out if there's potential distraction, what the level of distraction is,

2227
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:34,839
Speaker 1: and then what the level of payoff is. And I remember,

2228
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: for example, when Michael Sam was coming into the NFL

2229
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 1: and Missouri, I believe is where he played. And Michael

2230
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 1: Sam was the first outwardly gay player going into an

2231
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: NFL draft, and there was a lot of discussion about

2232
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 1: where he would be selected, and Tony Dungee caught some

2233
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: criticism saying that he wouldn't draft Michael Sam. And I

2234
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 1: think people thought, just because of Tony Dungee's theological stances

2235
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 1: that he was talking about, you know, it was seen

2236
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 1: as a homophobic statement. And Tony Dungee went on to

2237
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 1: explain that what he meant by that was whenever you

2238
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: have a player that has with him non football attachment

2239
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: and storyline that you then weigh how much that player

2240
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 1: at maximum can bring to your team versus how much

2241
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 1: player how much distraction that player can bring to your team.

2242
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:41,800
Speaker 1: And there are players that you are willing to deal

2243
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 1: with the baggage. There are certain players that like Dennis

2244
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 1: Robmin Dennis Robin was a walking side show and a

2245
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 1: walking storyline and a walking TMZ. But you know, I remember,

2246
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, even Bob Knight one time said I'd love

2247
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 1: to have him on my team and they said, well,

2248
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: all the things he brings to the table, and he said,

2249
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 1: not the way he plays when he's on the floor.

2250
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 1: The benefit he brings you offsets whatever distraction is there.

2251
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: So if the distraction is a seven out of ten,

2252
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: then as a player, the benefit has to be more

2253
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 1: than a seven. And when players sometimes start to fall

2254
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: in a draft or players start to fall in a

2255
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: free agency period and you wonder, like, what in the

2256
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: world is going on, it's because at some point they

2257
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:36,520
Speaker 1: cross the intersection of what would be a draw in

2258
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: terms of what they bring versus what they encapsulate. And

2259
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 1: there's one guy right now that I think we're seeing

2260
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 1: it because everybody started to wonder how in the world

2261
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: this guy could fall. Everybody started to wonder why in

2262
01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the world this guy was not getting opportunity. Everybody started

2263
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: to analyze others at his position of he's better than

2264
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 1: those players. What's going on? He's being penalized because of

2265
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:21,040
Speaker 1: things beyond his control, because of associations he has. And

2266
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I look right now at training camp, and you mentioned

2267
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: Eddie that you feel bad for Stephanie White because of

2268
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: the fact that she's got to constantly answer these questions

2269
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 1: about Caitlin Clark. In the Cleveland Browns right now have

2270
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:43,200
Speaker 1: a guy in Shador Sanders who was sure, maybe at

2271
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: ceiling he's a six and a half of what he

2272
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 1: can bring your franchise, but in terms of the scrutiny

2273
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 1: and the drama right now, he's a seven in the

2274
01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: fact that and I'm not saying it's his fault, but

2275
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: it's like when Tim Tebow was trying out for the

2276
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: New York Jets and you literally could not flip past

2277
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 1: ESPN without seeing South Palantoni or some reporter like eight

2278
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 1: minutes till Jets camp, ten minutes till Jets camp.

2279
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 2: And the same thing when he went to Jacksonville.

2280
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just constant, right, constant, constant, constant, or

2281
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: when he played baseball, and so the you know, with that,

2282
02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 1: the non stop scrutiny eventually overshadows and usurps what it

2283
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: is that they can bring to the table, and a

2284
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 1: guy like Shad or Sanders may well be eventually a

2285
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 1: decent player. But if you are a general manager, if

2286
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 1: you're a head coach, if you're an offensive coordinator, do

2287
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,040
Speaker 1: you want a guy on your roster that every time

2288
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: you are not catering towards that guy, everyone is jumping

2289
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 1: up and down, questioning it and making allegations about it

2290
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 1: and going on and on about the lunacy that you're

2291
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:53,720
Speaker 1: not catering to this particular player, and especially when you

2292
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 1: look at it and you go, but the ceiling payoff

2293
02:00:56,280 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 1: is an eight, and this distraction, now, this headache is

2294
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 1: like a twelve. And literally every time I turn around,

2295
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm seeing different stories about question marks of why Shoode

2296
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 1: or Sanders is not the third string quarterback. And look

2297
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:12,280
Speaker 1: here's the Joe Flacco now is listed as a starter

2298
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: and how absurd is that? And what about that?

2299
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 2: And it's just constant. Well, he's hurt right now. He

2300
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 2: hasn't been practicing yet, I know, and.

2301
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:23,320
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, like and yet, but even with that, Eddie,

2302
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 1: there is discussion that he hasn't when he has been

2303
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: out there or OTAs or whatever, he just has He's

2304
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 1: not shown what it was that they want to see again.

2305
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:38,680
Speaker 1: Even if he is healthy and progresses, what is his

2306
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: level of impact versus the level of sideshow.

2307
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like to kind of connect this

2308
02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:50,160
Speaker 2: to the fever Jake. Like their's success lately, the winning

2309
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:52,240
Speaker 2: five in a row, going for six and seven and

2310
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 2: two or eight and two in the last ten largely

2311
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 2: I kind of credit it now to like the water

2312
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:02,320
Speaker 2: has calmed, there's no more there's the storm is gone,

2313
02:02:03,360 --> 02:02:05,760
Speaker 2: there's no more drama, and like they've been able to

2314
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 2: settle in, Like you have the Sophie Cunningham thing right

2315
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 2: at the start of the season. You had to want

2316
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 2: a bonner situation. And Stephanie White misses a couple of games,

2317
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 2: especially in the first month of the year, because of

2318
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 2: some personal things that were going on in her life.

2319
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 2: So like all that stuff puts a toll on you,

2320
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 2: and your best player is out and now it's kind

2321
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 2: of all stabilized and it feels like they have finally

2322
02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 2: settled in.

2323
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: It does feel like I hate to say this because

2324
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:39,080
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark is a phenomenal talent and the straw mixing

2325
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:43,720
Speaker 1: the drink and the marketing genius of it all and

2326
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 1: you are a better team with her available, There's no

2327
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: denying that. But it also has been kind of nicely

2328
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 1: off the radar for them, where they've been able to

2329
02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: put these things together and put together a nice win streak.

2330
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm very, very very curious to see how it works

2331
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:02,960
Speaker 1: when she then comes back in and mixes back in.

2332
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of mixes back in, we'll mix it in with

2333
02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 1: John jamb is going to be with you next. We

2334
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 1: will hand it off to him and put a tie

2335
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 1: on all of it. Here and gets caught up on

2336
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: the last things that may be happening in Baltimore as well.

2337
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: I worry that you've gotten too comfortable with the country hits.

2338
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it been something if I just came back with,

2339
02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 2: like some some jazz by Duke Ellington or Barbas streisand

2340
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 2: here be a pull her opposite.

2341
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:33,320
Speaker 1: By the way, Thursday, we're going to be at the

2342
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 1: Legends Golf Club, of course Tilock and the Moors, huh.

2343
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 1: Or some bluegrass. I like bluegrass lotus, sticky play some

2344
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 1: Bill Monroe. I took a class on bluegrass music in

2345
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 1: the history of Jazz and Blues music in Indiana when

2346
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: I was in college. Eddie and one of the fascinating

2347
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 1: storylines that I've I've mentioned this before that I've always

2348
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,000
Speaker 1: and I wish you could still go there. I don't

2349
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 1: think it's still there, But the Star Piano Company in Richmond,

2350
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 1: Indiana had a recording studio kind of in the back

2351
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: area of it for a lot of jazz and blues

2352
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 1: musicians that a lot of places in Indiana would not

2353
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: record them back in the day. But if they could not,

2354
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 1: if there were musicians coming from Memphis that were trying

2355
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:18,280
Speaker 1: to get to Chicago but didn't want to go all

2356
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 1: the way up that far, or for whatever reason, the

2357
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 1: Star Piano Company had a recording studio where they would

2358
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 1: and I can't remember the name of the record label

2359
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 1: that they recorded, like Dizzy Gillespie and Jelly Roll Morton

2360
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 1: and all kinds of musicians, and the studio itself for

2361
02:04:36,280 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 1: the Piano Company. I think there might still be like

2362
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,520
Speaker 1: a smokestack left of the company itself, but they just

2363
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:45,960
Speaker 1: tore it down or I think it it collapsed or

2364
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 1: something like five or ten years ago. And I always

2365
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 1: made me mad that I didn get a chance to

2366
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:52,879
Speaker 1: see it, because it's kind of an un written aspect

2367
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis's music or Indiana music law. I should say

2368
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, we had when I

2369
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: was at w j L, which is part of the

2370
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:06,160
Speaker 1: Javortlight Career Center attached to North Central, and I took

2371
02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:09,800
Speaker 1: radio and television, and so I was in the radio

2372
02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 1: station a lot after school hours, and the custodian for

2373
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:19,000
Speaker 1: Javort Light Career Center we just called him Hub, and

2374
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 1: Hubb would push around his precursor to the days of

2375
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:29,680
Speaker 1: now you know, iPods and whatever else. Hubb always would

2376
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: push around this huge trash barrel with his you know,

2377
02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: cleaning stuff as he would go into rooms. And finally,

2378
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: one time, when I was walking into the Jayvort Light

2379
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: Career Center, I looked and I could hear music, and

2380
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 1: I looked in and Hub, while he was working cleaning

2381
02:05:48,320 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 1: one of the rooms had a record player set up

2382
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: and that trash barrel that he would push around underneath

2383
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 1: all the towels, he carried a record player and so

2384
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 1: he had this record player playing and it was jazz music.

2385
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 1: And Hubb invited me in and it was then that

2386
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:08,560
Speaker 1: I learned that he was the brother, the younger brother

2387
02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:13,680
Speaker 1: of legendary musician Freddie Hubbard. Oh nice. And so it

2388
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:15,800
Speaker 1: was the music of Freddie Hubbard that he would listen

2389
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: to while he was cleaning, and so he would he

2390
02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 1: then kind of opened up, and I mean, I love

2391
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:26,640
Speaker 1: hub was the best. And hearing the stories of you know,

2392
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 1: those days of just going around and playing the different

2393
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: clubs in Indianapolis, and you know, it was it was

2394
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. And it was particularly fascinating stuff that I

2395
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:39,520
Speaker 1: appreciated the most for being just, you know, a kid

2396
02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:42,560
Speaker 1: from the North Side that was naive to a great

2397
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 1: part of a lot of that. My buddy Frank Davis,

2398
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:47,960
Speaker 1: who lives here in town is a huge officionado and

2399
02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 1: historian of jazz as well. Goes to the jazz kitchen

2400
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 1: and hearing the stories of that era of music and

2401
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 1: those that have the ear to be able to understand

2402
02:06:58,520 --> 02:07:02,360
Speaker 1: the finer tastes of it, to me fascinating stuff. I mean,

2403
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 1: there's just so much history and storytelling that goes in

2404
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 1: with all of that. But at any rate, I was

2405
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna mention on Thursday, ten o'clock in the morning Legends

2406
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Golf Club, we will be there benefiting the Franciscan Foundation.

2407
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,960
Speaker 1: I've seen kind of the calendar of events that are

2408
02:07:16,960 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 1: taking place. It's going to be a ton of fun

2409
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,360
Speaker 1: out of the legends for the Fan Invitational Golf Outing,

2410
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 1: and I look forward to that. I'm playing Pleasant Run,

2411
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 1: I think, tomorrow, and I hope that doesn't completely I

2412
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 1: got to be on my game on Thursday in case,

2413
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be doing the show out there. So

2414
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'll be hitting the links per se.

2415
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, tomorrow's Wednesday, Jake.

2416
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 1: I know I'm playing Pleasant Run tomorrow. Yeah, And then

2417
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying the golf outing is on Thursday. Well, you're

2418
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:45,080
Speaker 1: in tip top shape. You show perfectly fine. Yeah, I

2419
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 1: ain't playing thirty six holes in two days, probably right,

2420
02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't. So I got to pace myself tomorrow. But

2421
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: it's been a while since I've played. I've had some

2422
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 1: things going on. I've not been able to be out

2423
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 1: on the golf court.

2424
02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 2: Now, what would Doctor White say if if you were

2425
02:07:58,360 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 2: concerned Jake about this?

2426
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 1: Huh, You gotta to feed the ball. You gotta hit

2427
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,839
Speaker 1: the ball, Jake. I haven't done my Doctor White impersonation

2428
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 1: in a while, but he he. You gotta get a

2429
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 1: bucket of balls, Jake. You gotta go ouad and get

2430
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:11,280
Speaker 1: a bucket of balls.

2431
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 2: You're talking about, or Gannett or Jeannette Records, Yes, thank you,

2432
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 2: that is it Jeanette Records.

2433
02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:19,120
Speaker 1: That is indeed correct.

2434
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 2: Spout out to my old program director at w ICE here,

2435
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 2: Henry Princess, with that one.

2436
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:25,760
Speaker 1: That is correct.

2437
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:27,360
Speaker 3: G E.

2438
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 1: N E. T. T. Might be two ends, but yes,

2439
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: that was connected to the Star Piano Company of Richmond, Indiana,

2440
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 1: and they recorded a ton of those people back in

2441
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 1: the day. So tomorrow we are going to be out

2442
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:39,880
Speaker 1: at the Indiana State Fair. I look forward to that.

2443
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 1: James Boy will join us to recap for us everything

2444
02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 1: that's gone on between the Colts and the Ravens, and

2445
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 1: then we will be there for some cardon Raymond at

2446
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 1: the State fair grounds as well. J ANDV has arrived here.

2447
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 8: Hey, I get a question for you really quick. Hey,

2448
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:58,680
Speaker 8: when did they stop When did they stop in this

2449
02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 8: state telling you before you get to the road that's

2450
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:07,800
Speaker 8: closed that the road is closed because because they treated

2451
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:11,400
Speaker 8: this like smoking the bandit? Now remember smoking the bandit? Hey, great,

2452
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 8: tell me the bridge is out. As I get to

2453
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 8: the bridge, I would have taken a different route. When

2454
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 8: did they start not telling you or informed once.

2455
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:22,600
Speaker 1: They assumed you just use ways. I guess is that

2456
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 1: it can not put a sign up like a half

2457
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 1: mile down the road. What road was closed? That shocked you? Everyone?

2458
02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: You're right about that each one. And lots of bike

2459
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:33,080
Speaker 1: paths being put in, which I'm cool with that, but

2460
02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:37,600
Speaker 1: it's narrowing the road. The street I live on up north,

2461
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 1: they they just got done redoing all of it, and

2462
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, wait a minute, like it feels like

2463
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 1: the lanes are way thinner.

2464
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 2: Are they completely? I know, I know they had one

2465
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 2: side where.

2466
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 1: They still have some barrels out. I have a question

2467
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 1: for Corrison. He can look this up too.

2468
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 8: Okay, what's the cultural record since they've gone with the

2469
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 8: mantra or motto.

2470
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:01,760
Speaker 1: For the shoe? When did they start that? Because I'm

2471
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:03,880
Speaker 1: ready to drop that like a bad habit? What about

2472
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 1: colts forged? Are you done with that too?

2473
02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,160
Speaker 8: I just that wasn't for the shoe. And the reason

2474
02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 8: why I bring this up it's on the side. It's

2475
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 8: going up on the side of the jaw, and I'm

2476
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 8: thinking we're kind of done with that. This has been

2477
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 8: a losing It's like Pacer Pride in the nineteen eighties.

2478
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:21,480
Speaker 1: I love Pacer Pride.

2479
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 8: I mean great commercials that were earworms, but it was

2480
02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:26,800
Speaker 8: surrounding the lose pacers.

2481
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:29,320
Speaker 1: Now just stick with yes, sirs, because that that did

2482
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 1: appear to stick when they were half away from winning

2483
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:32,200
Speaker 1: it all.

2484
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 8: As much as I hate every second of it, I

2485
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 8: would have to agree with you on that probably probably

2486
02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 8: so I.

2487
02:10:37,520 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 1: Don't like it either, and Shannon Walsh hates it.

2488
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:42,360
Speaker 8: But yes, we're it's gotta be something underdog wise, but

2489
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 8: can we not come up with something else for the Colts?

2490
02:10:45,280 --> 02:10:45,480
Speaker 3: Eddie?

2491
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:47,360
Speaker 1: Are you looking this up feverishly over there?

2492
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:48,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to figure out when it was.

2493
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,040
Speaker 1: I wonder when they started this, because there's.

2494
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 8: Zero ways started to have one one at a high

2495
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 8: level since they started for the Shoe.

2496
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:59,120
Speaker 2: Started twenty twenty twenty twenty August sixteenth or twenty twenties

2497
02:10:59,160 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 2: when they debuted it.

2498
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so you think it's time for something new, I'll

2499
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:06,720
Speaker 1: tell you what the record is right now, twenty August

2500
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 1: of twenty So the twenty twenty one season, is that right?

2501
02:11:11,520 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 2: Would be for the twenty twenty season, right twenty twenty twenty.

2502
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 1: In other words, the season was twenty going into twenty

2503
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 1: twenty one in the postseason, right, the twenty twenty season. Right,

2504
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:27,320
Speaker 1: So based on that, their record with it is, let's

2505
02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 1: see twenty and seventeen, twenty four and twenty nine, thirty

2506
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 1: three and thirty seven, forty one and fifty six. Is

2507
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:40,520
Speaker 1: that right? That seems harsh? Eleven and five and nine

2508
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 1: and eight would be twenty and seventeen, twenty four and

2509
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 1: twenty nine, thirty three and thirty seven, forty one and

2510
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 1: fifty six, forty one and fifty six with for the shoe? Yeah,

2511
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's time.

2512
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 8: To change that up. Can they put something like we

2513
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 8: sucked when it was for the shoe or finally a final.

2514
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 2: Way that can't be right? Hold on twenty thirteen. We

2515
02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,440
Speaker 2: have to remember they sucked one year, like really really bad.

2516
02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 1: Twenty No, I'm sorry, twenty four and twenty five, hang

2517
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 1: on a second, thirty three and thirty three, sorry, forty

2518
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,160
Speaker 1: one and forty two yet.

2519
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:21,920
Speaker 3: For the shoe? Are you not?

2520
02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:22,320
Speaker 7: Am I?

2521
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 3: Listen?

2522
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,240
Speaker 8: I know nobody cares. All you care about is the

2523
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 8: product on the field, but all we passed for the shoe.

2524
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 8: By now, I've always thought it was hoky for the shoe.

2525
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 1: I've always what does it mean.

2526
02:12:35,120 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 8: We're there for the shoe. We're watching and interested and

2527
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:40,600
Speaker 8: cheering for the shoe and only that.

2528
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 1: But but here's the thing. For the shoe era also was,

2529
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, we were told that everything was

2530
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:50,160
Speaker 1: for the shoe, and it was the end of that

2531
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 1: first year. If it was, it not where it was

2532
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 1: like all chips in period Like we're going to get

2533
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:56,800
Speaker 1: rid of anybody unless they're all chips in periods. So

2534
02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:59,040
Speaker 1: what you learned was that not everybody was for the shoe, right?

2535
02:12:59,120 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2536
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, could you not do something for gym

2537
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 8: here too, like for Jim? I mean, I mean anything

2538
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 8: else other than for the shoe. I don't disagree with

2539
02:13:10,280 --> 02:13:11,520
Speaker 8: you for the shoes for losers.

2540
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,480
Speaker 1: All the marketing things are kind of hokey. Who came

2541
02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:15,320
Speaker 1: up with that? Who am I offending by that? Who's

2542
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:20,760
Speaker 1: the marketeer that I'm offender? Who doesn't have slogans? Winners? Correct?

2543
02:13:21,320 --> 02:13:25,200
Speaker 1: He new doesn't change their uniform every year? Winners? Yes? Yeah,

2544
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:27,960
Speaker 1: good idea. All right, John's up next. We're back with

2545
02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 1: you at noon tomorrow. I thank you for listening to

2546
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 1: Queering Company.