1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from vall hartbind and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. 3 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: I do not know. 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: Andrew Colvin, a producer for the late Charlie Kirk. 5 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: I don't know the man. I've never met the man. 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: I've never had a conversation with the men, to be honest, 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: until Charlie's assassination, I don't think i'd ever seen a. 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: Picture of him. It's okay, I'm not in that orbitten. 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: You know. It's neither here nor there. 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Guys, a pleasure to be 11 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: with You. Find everything I do over at Tony kats 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: dot com and go be a part of it the 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: podcast wherever it is you get your podcasts, just look 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: for Tony Kats Today. 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: And some. 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: Andrew Colvid is making a heck of an allegation. And 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: the allegation is that there were indeed text messages between 18 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk and Joe Kent. Joe Kent was the guy 19 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: running National counter terrorism and he resigns last week in 20 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: this big flourish and I can't be a part of this, 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: and I can't abide by this war. 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: And this is all Israel's fault. 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: Eighteen days later, he decides to resign, not eighteen hours later, 24 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: not eighteen minutes later, eighteen days later. 25 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: That's a guy who. 26 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: Wanted to make sure that his money was going to 27 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: be okay, his reputation was going to be able to 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: have some bolstering something. No one waits eighteen days. You 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: mean if the word gone on five days, you would 30 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: have been okay with it, Joe Kent. It's not for 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: me to understand. 32 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: It's remain a. 33 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Notice because if I try to understand it, my head 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: will explode. 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: I can't. And you have come out on so many 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: sides of things. 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: This is wrong, and this is obscene, and Trump's being 38 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: led by the Israelis, and then the other day it 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: was I hope Trump does this and does that and 40 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: wins this thing. 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: Dude, I can't. I can't follow your letter. 42 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: I support the values and the foreign policies that you 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 3: campaigned on in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty twenty four. 44 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: Until June twenty twenty five, you understood that the wars 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: in the Middle East were a trap that robbed america 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: precious lives and our patriots and depleted the wealth and 47 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: prosperity of our nation. 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: Then you talk about the echo chamber and. 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 3: The tactics the Israelis to draw us into this disastrous 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: Iraq war that cost us our nation, cost our nation 51 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: to the lives of thousands and. 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Our best men and women. It's it's a it's a 53 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: pretty ugly letter. 54 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: It's this, but he sees himself as Joe kentsas as 55 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: pious again eighteen days eighteen days now. We learned after 56 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: that that he is under federal investigation for sharing classified information. 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: Don't tell me about his eleven tours and his Green 58 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: beret and all the rest. He shared classified information. I 59 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: wanted the book thrown at Biden and former Vice President 60 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: Mike Pence for having classified information. At least in the 61 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: case of Vice President Pence, he realized he had a 62 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: box with some classified information and he stopped what he 63 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 3: was doing. He called they the eire of the Secret Service, 64 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: and said, here it is. It wasn't true about his garage, 65 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: like Joe Biden hiding in an office in Boston, at 66 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: his house there in Delaware where people were coming in 67 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: and out. 68 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: And the Secret Service kept no logs. That was always precious. 69 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: They never kept a log they never they never even. 70 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: Saved the information. We're not allowed to know who visited 71 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: Joe Biden in Delaware. Fantastic. So you've got this investigation 72 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: going on about the sharing of classified information. This brings 73 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: us back to Andrew Covid again. I don't know the man. 74 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: I have absolutely nothing against the man zero, But what 75 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: he is saying in a clip that he put out yesterday, 76 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 3: what he is saying is that the information that Candice 77 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: Owens utilized was actually from this guy, Joe Kent. How 78 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: in the world did she get this information. It's because 79 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: Joe Kent took text messages he had with Charlie Kirk 80 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: and shared them with Candace Owens. That's the argument being 81 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: made here. And this is, without a question. 82 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: Very very very ugly. 83 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 3: There's a lot to this. So I wanted to take 84 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: a moment. Now you're asking me, Tony, does this matter? 85 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: Is this really the. 86 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 3: News story you want to you want to go after, 87 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: give me a give me a moment to explain. The 88 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: answer right now is yes. I have actually shared before 89 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: there was a story that was out in the U 90 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: in one of the radio trades about whether or not 91 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: radio hosts should be talking about these these people the 92 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 3: podcast world, online characters, et cetera. 93 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: And someone I know, like and trust was like. 94 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: No, no, my audience isn't really interested in that, and 95 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: I disagreed. And my argument was was that part of 96 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: our job is to share with an audience what's happening. 97 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: I I never believe my job is to tell you 98 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: what to think. I do believe my job is to 99 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: give you something to think about. Certainly, I do think 100 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: that part of the job is sharing what's happening in 101 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: places outside of regular news, the kind of thing that 102 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: your kids, your grandkids, your nieces, your nephews, coworkers, they 103 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: are getting. 104 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: You should have an idea of what that is. 105 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: In the case here, because certainly we're talking about war, 106 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: and we're talking about people going on their anti Israel 107 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: and anti Trump and anti American approaches. Certainly I can 108 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: argue that Tucker Carlson is anything but America. First, what 109 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: matters here is where people are connected, connections you can't 110 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: even begin to imagine, and what people are willing to 111 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: do with that connection, what they're willing to do in 112 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: the furtherance of their own career or their furtherance of 113 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: a message. Why it is imperative that even amongst people 114 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: you don't like in trust and I'll utilize myself as 115 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: exams Number one example A. 116 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: Of course you want to check, double check, and recheck. 117 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: Everything I bring you is something that I theorize, I 118 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: believe in. I try to bring back up to and 119 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: I bring the data to. Of course I can be wrong. 120 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: What kind of crazy person doesn't think they can be wrong? 121 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: It is up to you to check, double check, and recheck. 122 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: So when this guy Joe Kent is out there and 123 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: people are buying into yeah Israel this, and yeah what's 124 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: America doing? 125 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: Oh, Trump's locked his mind? 126 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: And this is the guy we now trust, A guy 127 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: who took private text messages. 128 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: And shared them with someone who wasn't a part of it. 129 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: I think that matters because it also should lead us 130 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: for those of us on the political right, I know 131 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: lots of other people listen to the show, and you 132 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: can argue for you as well, to be looking at 133 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 3: what it is we allow and what is it we 134 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: say know to. 135 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: Where is our standard and whether or not we apply it. 136 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: I think we should. 137 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: And you say to me, well that's great, Tony, but 138 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 3: the other side has no standard. And I say, to you. Ahah, 139 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 3: I get it. I absolutely get it. So way, if 140 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: I was asked, I would tell them. 141 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: They should stop doing that. 142 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: Because it isn't there's something else, and that's okay. I 143 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: get why you did some things, and you kept things 144 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: going while you were figuring things out in the horror 145 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: of his assassination. 146 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,119 Speaker 2: I don't think you're being rude by saying. 147 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: Okay, this show has a new name because it is 148 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: something different, and here's how we dedicate ourselves, and here's 149 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: how we focus ourselves. I take neither here nor there. 150 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: This is Andrew Colvitt. 151 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: Eventually, Joe did message me and suggest that I make 152 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: those screen grabs public. I declined because those were shared privately. 153 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: I didn't want to be reckless with them in the public. 154 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: There could be innocent people on that group chat that 155 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: would then be harmed. 156 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: So I declined. 157 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 4: But then fast forward another week or two and they 158 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: were made public. So that's what I know is that 159 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: Joe suggested that they be made public. 160 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: I declined. Then they were made public. 161 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: Can I categorically say that he leaked them, No, but 162 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: those are the facts. Maybe somebody on his team, maybe 163 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: they got passed around, maybe somebody else leaked them. But 164 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: that's those are the facts of the matter, and that's. 165 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: What I know. 166 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, good on him for covering himself. And let's 167 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 3: make sure we're saying it the way he did. Text 168 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: messages got leaked, other people were on a group chat. 169 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: He is not one hundred percent sure that Joe Kent 170 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: did it. One can make an inference and leave it 171 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: at that. 172 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: Let the conversation continue. 173 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 5: And the reason we're bringing this up obviously with his 174 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 5: departure from the administration, there's a lot of debate over 175 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 5: what it means. People have been arguing was he a leaker. 176 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 5: Some people have suggested he might be a criminal, he 177 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: should be indicted. We're not saying that, but this has 178 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 5: come up, and well, and. 179 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 4: My name's getting tossed around with this as if I 180 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: did something untoward. No, I don't regret any of it. 181 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: I regret that they were leaked. I was told that 182 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: I could trust him. I told that it was private 183 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: and it would be guarded, just to look into any 184 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: possible leads. And by the way, we did that with 185 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: a bunch of different things because we want the truth 186 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 4: to come out. 187 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: So we're not blocking anything. 188 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: We don't even care if the answer is something that 189 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: is really, really terrible. Okay, we want the truth, we 190 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 4: want justice, and we believe that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. 191 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: We believe that they got their guy. We have additional questions, 192 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: but guess what that it was an egregious breach. Whoever 193 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: shared that screen grab publicly, it was an egregious breach, 194 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: and obviously we're not happy about it. But can't put 195 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: it back together again, can't put the pace back in 196 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 4: the tube, as they say. 197 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: When when I started in the movement, if you will, 198 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: I had a real belief that everybody. 199 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Was in it for the same purpose. 200 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: Better country, Better country rise and tide lifts all boats. 201 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: There's madness a foot in policy, and we. 202 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: Can do better. 203 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: What I learned over time is that maybe some people 204 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: started out that way. A lot of people said, I 205 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: kind of think this way, but if there's an opportunity 206 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: for me, that's what I'm really in for. 207 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: In to build my opportunities. 208 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: And when they got an opportunity, when they had a 209 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: chance to grow, they very quickly dropped anybody who was 210 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: quote unquote left behind. They were in the business for themselves. 211 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: And that is as a concept is nothing new, although 212 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: maybe it was new to me. 213 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Maybe it was just a level. 214 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: Of naivete that has held true and still holds true. 215 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 3: That the people that are getting celebrated. 216 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 2: Not say that. Take that back, I won't say celebrated. 217 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: They seemed to have large audiences online, seemed to be 218 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: the kind of people that whatever will give them some 219 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: leg up, regardless of what it does to someone else, 220 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: regardless of what it means to their own soul. That's fine, 221 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: that's fine, let's go do that. Nah, I don't have 222 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: any respect to that. Leaking Charlie Kirk's private messages to 223 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: Candace Ellens and Candace Owens would in any way utilize 224 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: them or reference it or anything else. You can't explain 225 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: to me in a way that will makes sense why 226 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Candace owns to this date has a large audience, or 227 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: Megan or. 228 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Tucker, and I could say that about one hundred people. 229 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: I guess, what is the moment when someone shows you 230 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: that they're no longer worth your time? At what moments 231 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: do we say these people are no longer worth our time? 232 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: What moment do we say that's not going to work 233 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: for us. That's the story here. Not everyone's perfect and 234 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: I don't need altruism. I don't need to be the 235 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: most famous guy on the yard. Someone else is allowed 236 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: to be more famous, and many people are. 237 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: Not famous. 238 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: But doesn't there come a moment where we look at 239 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: these people and say, Okay, we get it. You're so 240 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: desperate to ensure that twenty five year olds are watching 241 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: you that you'll do anything and say anything. We're not 242 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: interested in this, and don't they say, my god, these 243 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: people will do anything to get me to watch. 244 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm not interested. The authenticity doesn't exist. 245 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: So I believe we need to bring this up because 246 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: we're not having this conversation, and we're not having this 247 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: conversation with our kids, grandkids, cousins, nieces, nephews, friends. They're 248 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: going to watch these people and believe them and think 249 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: that everything that's coming their way comes from a place 250 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: of pure heart. When you're sharing private text messages, that's 251 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: not pure heart, that is pure something else. 252 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today.