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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna sell Saudi Arabia at thirty five strike fighters.

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Speaker 2: Are we? Are we out of our minds? I mean,

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Speaker 2: are we completely insane? Maybe not? Maybe Every resentment I

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Speaker 2: have for September eleventh is still holding true, is still valuable,

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Speaker 2: is still important. But we didn't punish Saudi Arabia the

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Speaker 2: way we needed to. And we live in this world

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Speaker 2: right now, and in this world right now, Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 2: is your friend and not your enemy. Tony Kats, Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats today, good to be with you. Of course, we've

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Speaker 2: had a relationship with Saudi Arabia for years. And yes,

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Speaker 2: that is me saying that George W. Bush, in no way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form handled Saudi Arabia the way he should have.

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Speaker 2: The violence I would have unleashed cannot be fully explained here.

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Speaker 2: That said, I have also stated, and I've stated this publicly,

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Speaker 2: that I would have given the Saudis the option to

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Speaker 2: pick seventeen members of the royal family to execute as

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Speaker 2: they see fit, but they better do it live and

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Speaker 2: in front of a video camera so everyone could see

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Speaker 2: what happens. We can do it. We're going to actually

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Speaker 2: walk in and do it, or you can do it. No, no,

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Speaker 2: don't just send us a couple people are going to

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Speaker 2: spend their lives in a cushy jail. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I would not have been that kind. And you could

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Speaker 2: say to me, my gosh, Tony, that is violent. I

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Speaker 2: am not someone who forgets three thousand of my fellow

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Speaker 2: Americans who were slaughtered. I have not engaged any level

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Speaker 2: of forgiveness. I do, however, live in the real world,

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Speaker 2: and the real world tells me that if you can

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Speaker 2: get Saudi Arabia further on your side and engage some

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Speaker 2: moves that you're trying to engage, you can change the

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Speaker 2: entire game in the Middle East and not only further

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Speaker 2: isolate Iran, but totally disembowel them. You say to me, Tony,

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Speaker 2: if I thought you were violent before, now we're talking

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Speaker 2: about disemboweling. Yeah. Yeah, I'm interested in my enemies losing.

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Speaker 2: And Iran is the enemy. There's no question, there's no debate.

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Speaker 2: Iran is the enemy, which is to say them all

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Speaker 2: is the hard liners, the clerics, the Ayatola, the enemy

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Speaker 2: of all free and thinking people. You can get Saudi

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Speaker 2: Arabia to come to the table. You can get Saudi

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Speaker 2: Arabia to agree to the Abraham Accords, well, that might

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Speaker 2: be worth selling them some F thirty five strike fighters.

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Speaker 2: And the F thirty five is no joke. It's a

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Speaker 2: serious piece of hardware. It is an unbelievable instrument. But

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Speaker 2: you have Saudi Arabia pledging what is it, six hundred

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Speaker 2: billion dollars worth of investment into the US, You have

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Speaker 2: the UH, you have the possibility of, indeed, the Abraham Accords.

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Speaker 2: Well that kids, that's everything you might want to actually

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Speaker 2: make that happen. So President Trump is getting ready to

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Speaker 2: meet with Muhammed Ben Solomon. We're going to cover that.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, the House of Representatives is getting

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Speaker 2: ready to vote on Epstein files, and they're getting ready

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Speaker 2: to vote on this discharge petition. Republicans are not fans,

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Speaker 2: not fans at all of this. They do not want

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Speaker 2: the discharge petition happening at all. What they want is

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Speaker 2: a different vote. The discharge petition is a system utilized

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Speaker 2: by which someone can bring legislation to the floor and

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Speaker 2: absolutely do an end around of the standard system. If

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Speaker 2: you can do an end around of the system. What

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Speaker 2: you can do then is bring anything you want for

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Speaker 2: a vote right there. You don't have to go through committees,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to do a whole host of things.

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Speaker 2: You could just go right to it. The problem with

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Speaker 2: this discharge petition, as Speaker Johnson explains it, and I'll

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Speaker 2: share that with you, is that it makes no distinguishing maneuvers.

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Speaker 2: It makes no effort, I should say, better word, to

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Speaker 2: remove or redact the names of victims. For example. So

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Speaker 2: there are plenty of women who have admitted that Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 2: the financier, sexually abused them. This island the trafficking of

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Speaker 2: these young women, I mean under the age of eighteen

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Speaker 2: women to men of power and influence, and they have

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Speaker 2: come out and said, this happened to me, and I

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Speaker 2: don't want to happen to anybody else. So let's release

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Speaker 2: these files and let's find who did this, and we

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Speaker 2: know who did this, and let's make sure people go

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Speaker 2: to jail. I'm all in favor of that, but there

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Speaker 2: could very well be some women who have no interest

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Speaker 2: in being outed. This discharge petition does not protect them,

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Speaker 2: doesn't protect them. It could release names of people who

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Speaker 2: have done nothing wrong. Being listed in the files does

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Speaker 2: not mean you were involved with young women or involved

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Speaker 2: in sex trafficking. Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: in a lot of connections, in a lot of places.

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Speaker 2: You have Byron York writing over there at the Washington

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Speaker 2: Examiner about how a group was putting in there about

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files. Leave aside for a moment. Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: had vomited any of this. His name appears more than

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Speaker 2: sixteen hundred times in the email release, according to a

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal review, and we all know how hard

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Speaker 2: he's fighting to keep the files from the Department of

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Speaker 2: Justice investigation from being released. Well that's all changed because

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Speaker 2: he's now following what Congress wants. But as Byron York notes,

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Speaker 2: it's an interesting piece, but it has to include the

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Speaker 2: lev A side paragraph below because Trump is not a

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Speaker 2: participant in the recently released twenty thousand plus Epstein documents.

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Speaker 2: Trump says not a word, writes, not a single email

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Speaker 2: or text, takes part in no conversation, and he's in

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files because Jeffrey Epstein can't stop talking about him.

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Speaker 2: So that's a completely different mathematics. The idea that Epstein

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Speaker 2: may mention him is not proof of President Trump doing

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Speaker 2: anything wrong. And rational people need to read these things,

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Speaker 2: and so agreed, we need to see these things. But

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Speaker 2: what other names are in there? What other names are

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Speaker 2: in there? Where all of a sudden, we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: people guilty by association. That's gross stuff. We're gonna take people, Well,

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Speaker 2: your name's in there, so I guess you're guilty. That's horrifying.

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Speaker 2: Why don't we take the time because I want them released.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going back on my own words. Why don't

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Speaker 2: we take the time to ensure that the names are

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Speaker 2: proper and accurate in there. If we were to simply

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Speaker 2: not engage his discharge petition, but normal rational people, we

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Speaker 2: could get there. The discharge petition is a mistake. That's

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Speaker 2: the issue. That's the fundamental flaw right there. So we've

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Speaker 2: got these two things we're watching. We're watching the House

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Speaker 2: of Representatives on the discharge petition. We are watching for

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Speaker 2: President Trump and Mohammad bin Sulman to speak about what

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Speaker 2: could be very likely a total realignment of the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: It's a busy day. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony

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