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Speaker 1: many times did he say, I'm not calling the session

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 4: I didn't ask him about that because I wanted to

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I'm saying, has he ever publicly commented?

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Speaker 1: people's tweets about this some guy named d C. Draino

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Speaker 1: from Flora that is bossing our politicians around in Indiana. Casey,

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Speaker 1: all right, we gotta get your break. I ain't done yet.

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Speaker 1: We got a long way to go on this way.

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Speaker 2: Someone pray for me. It is kind of like Casey,

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC