1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Hartliner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. If you're disrupting a vigil for Charlie Kirk, 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: chances are as a person, you have failed the test 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: of humanity. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Good to be 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: with you, and I will get into more of this. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: There's a video I want to kind of share and 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: at almost narrate. I'll get to that. But this is 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: about how two people were arrested as people gathered for 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk in Boston. This has happened another place where 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: people have been arrested for destroying like makeshift kind of 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: memorials to Charlie Kirk. It's very it is everything you 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: would expect. It's everything that you would expect. And I 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: have to assume that the security that's going to exist 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: for Sunday at this remembrance service about Charlie Kirk there 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: in Glendale, Arizona is going to be massive. It's going 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: to be just flat out through the roof as they've 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: got sixty seventy thousand sound sixty or seventy thousand people 18 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: showing up, all told to wear their Sunday best. Did 19 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: I say low Tony Katz. Tony Kats say, I did, 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I did, I did. Sometimes I forget, I apologize. You're 21 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: destroying vigils. We should be clear that the people doing 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: that they not like us. Kendrick was right, violent, hateful, vitriolic, 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: and they have been told, told as clear as day 24 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: that this person's a threat, that person's a threat. These 25 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: people are a threat, and the Left is not stopping. 26 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: They can't even allow you the vigil. 27 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: Now. 28 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: I want to be clear about something. This is far 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: different than telling people they have to have a vigil. 30 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: I am not liking what I am seeing from my people, 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: my people. Regarding NFL teams, I think there's a legitimate 32 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: argument to saying you held some kind of memorial or 33 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: put up on the on the big screens. George Floyd 34 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: was killed. George Floyd had enough drugs in a system 35 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: to kill him. George Floyd was not a hero, and 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: what was done in the name of George Floyd is 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: obscene and a great example of what the Left wants 38 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: to do in tearing down society. If an NFL team 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: was honoring George Floyd but doesn't honor Charlie Kirk, I 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: could see and understand how people think that that's a 41 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: double standard. I am not interested in forcing people, any team, 42 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: anywhere to have some kind of memorial, some kind of remembrance. Nope, 43 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm not interested. And I think it's weird that I'm 44 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: seeing people on the political right want this. You will 45 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: do this, we demand that is the talk of the left. 46 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: Now you say to me, Tony, we're just turn about 47 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: his fair play. They set the rules. It is about 48 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: not countowing to the madness or the mob. That was 49 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: our argument. How do you defeat the progressive? How do 50 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: you defeat the woke mob? You simply do not bow 51 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: down to it. And when you don't bow, they get 52 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: louder and they get violent. When you don't bow at all, 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: they lose. Now, I believe in meeting their force with 54 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: absolute force. I don't believe in just getting attacked, just 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: getting abused. And when I see places like Minneapolis that 56 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: refuse to put down the riot, which they did repeatedly, 57 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: and they gave up the police station, if you remember, 58 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: and they allow these things to exacerbate. It doesn't like 59 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: they don't get it out of their system, the crowd 60 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and then everything cools down. No, it grows because there 61 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: is no resistance to stop them. That data is very 62 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: very clear on that it builds. And so these these 63 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: leftist mayors like Jacob Fray of Minneapolis or or name 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: your mayor in your town, they cause more damage and 65 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: destruction and heartache, and they encourage more of this violence 66 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: because they don't stop it. Protest is lawful. Riots need 67 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: to be put down with force. There is a difference. 68 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Did you feel that way about January sixth, Tony, Hell, yeah, 69 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:39,119 Speaker 1: I did. Riots. Riots need to be stopped. Inviting people 70 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: into the Capitol. Well, don't call them rioters. See how 71 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: I do that. That's called being normal. But I don't 72 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: want to force NFL teams into doing this. If you 73 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: see an NFL team that was willing to honor George 74 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: Floyd but not willing to honor Charlie Kirk, you don't 75 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: have to take partake in that team. Man. I am 76 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: not into the mob stuff. Well, Tony, they have to 77 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: live by the rules that they set up. I think 78 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: that a lot of people need to live by the 79 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: rules that they set up, and they shouldn't be surprised. 80 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: The teams shouldn't be surprised when they're called out for it. 81 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: I am saying I don't need them to see it. 82 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't need them to be forced into it because 83 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't want the mob mentality. I don't want it 84 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: because man, that stuff turns. That stuff turns, and that 85 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: stuff gets very, very very ugly. In the same way, 86 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't want people to tell me, well, now you 87 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: have to say something loving about Charlie Kirk. What if 88 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: you were somebody who didn't pay that much attention to him. 89 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: It just wasn't in your life. He just wasn't in 90 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: your sphere. Oh the man in popularity. But what if 91 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: it just wasn't your thing. What if you're like, hey, 92 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: I like this, I didn't like that. Is that allowed? 93 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. I'm never that guy. What I 94 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: think is important is that if people are engaged in 95 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: a level of memorial or remembrance, there's nothing wrong with that. 96 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: Is can anything be overdone and overkill? Oh gosh, yes, absolutely, 97 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: no question about it. But if there's a turning point chapter, 98 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: name the high school, name the college, and they have 99 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: a memorial or a vigil for Charlie Kirk, that would 100 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: make perfect sense. Destroying the vigil or disrupting or trying 101 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: to harm people does not make any sense. It's insane, 102 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: it's madness. It is, and it's imperative that when we 103 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: see that, we show that. Look at these people. First 104 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: they cheer as assassination, and then they won't even let 105 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: us mourn, and then don't let these people in election again. 106 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: They have to lose. They have to lose every single 107 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: time they go to the ballot box. Now, there's a 108 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: part two to this about how you engage with them 109 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: if they're trying to disrupt. I'm not as much of 110 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: a turn the other cheek guy on when it comes 111 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: to those things as other people. But maybe I'll save 112 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: that for later because I want to move on to 113 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: this part too, where you've got the people around Charlie 114 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Kirk wanting Paramount to return. The South Park episodes where 115 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Cartman plays the part of Charlie Kirk. I don't know 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen these or not. Even Kirk was like, 117 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they quoted me exactly. This is good. 118 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: They have Cartman doing Kirk on college campuss answering questions, 119 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, and quoting the Bible, 120 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: doing all these things. And Andrew Colvett, who was the 121 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show, I've never met him, 122 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: said hey, paramount plus as someone who can speak with 123 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: some authority on this. Charlie loved that he was featured 124 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: in South Park. He told me many times he would 125 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: want the episode back up. They pulled it because they 126 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: thought it might be offensive or something, which is weird 127 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: for the south Park guys to do, but sensitivities and 128 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: that becomes a really really odd line. Right, what should 129 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: you do? What shouldn't you do? How do you act 130 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: as a corporation, how don't you et cetera. If the 131 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: argument was we believe in free speech, we believe in 132 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: free debate, We believe in this engagement even if it's mocking, 133 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: even if you don't like, even if you disagree, then 134 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: we believe in it because we want to be able 135 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: to speak. Well, then let it fly. And I absolutely 136 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: favor that, unquestionably. And if someone doesn't, well, then you 137 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: could say, hey, I think you're wrong for not and 138 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: that leads to another conversation in another debate, not some 139 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: level of attack. Same way I feel about these NFL teams. 140 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to shop them anymore. All you don't 141 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: have to buy their merchant. Don't have to go to 142 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: their games, you don't have to watch their games, you 143 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: don't have to buy their sponsors. I agreed. And you 144 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: could say it's weird they did this and they didn't 145 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: do that. I just don't want to see any level 146 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: of attack. I am not interested in the mob forcing 147 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: people to bend the knee, because that's not real, that's 148 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: out of fear. I want people to engage based on thoughts, 149 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: based on their minds, based on philosophy, not based on fear. 150 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's good that people in Kirk's world 151 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: are saying, hey, man, it's cool. Charlie thought it was cool. 152 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: He would have thought it was cool. He wouldn't want 153 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: you to change who you are for him. Play it booboo, 154 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: absolutely put it up there. Ten percent. And then there 155 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: are the people who won't even let others mourn, destroying 156 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: the public, officials, mocking vigils. Those are the people that 157 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: if they're actually destroying something, it's okay if you push 158 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: back on them, politicos saying oh no, it's okay. They're 159 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: elected officials. It's no harm, no, none of that stuff. 160 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: Please don't get me wrong, but don't vote for them, 161 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: push against against their nonsense, tell them how wrong they are. 162 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely ab sosolutely. They won't even let you mourn Charlie 163 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: Kirk's assassination. That's where the political left is. Maybe that's 164 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: why Paramount pulled it. It wasn't about how Charlie Kirk 165 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: fans would feel. It would be about the left saying, 166 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: why are you making Charlie Kirk look like such a 167 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: cool guy? Why are you putting him in South Park? 168 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: You should erase? Maybe that's the twist. You are allowed 169 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: to remember Charlie Kirk any way you choose. I'm not 170 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: here to judge. I just don't think anyone can make 171 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: anybody else memorialize the way you may want them to. 172 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. All right, 173 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave this here, and I'm gonna ask 174 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: you if Senator Mazie Herono of Hawaii is insane with 175 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: this statement or is this some kind of turn of 176 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: phrase that actually exists in the world and I have 177 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: never heard it? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 178 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: be with you. I'm gonna play it for you right now. 179 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Then we will discuss it. Senator Mazie Herono of Hawaii. 180 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: This is what's happening, and that is why the bills 181 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: that Senator Marquis, Senator Klobachar and I have introduced and 182 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: olders will provide some relief for the millions of small 183 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: businesses in our country who are taking it in the 184 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,359 Speaker 2: neck with these terrors. 185 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: Okay, they're talking about tariffs, they're talking about increased costs. 186 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I have discussed tariffs. I have discussed increased costs. I 187 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: have heard of something being a pain in the neck. 188 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: I do not believe. And that's why I'm leaving this 189 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: to you, because I can be wrong. Right. Just because 190 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I never heard of something doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist. 191 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I've never heard of Americans taking it in the neck. 192 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Usually when people say they're taking it it is oh gosh, 193 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm allowed to say that. 194 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: Am I allowed to allowed to say that? It's a 195 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: little bit of a right, That's that's That's what it 196 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: is right there. It's a little bit of taking it right. 197 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: That's I think we understand each other. Guys. I love you, 198 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I always have. Don't forget that I have never heard 199 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: of taking it in the neck and I don't think 200 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: I would have said anything about this other than who 201 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: uses the expression taking it in the neck? Am I insane? 202 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Am I insane? Or is my ability to just connect 203 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: the dots? You know? Sometimes I'm connecting a dot that 204 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: may not actually need to be connected. Is that a 205 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: weirder thing to say? Post Charlie Kirk's assassination. I find 206 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: Mazie Herono to be awful. I have said, do not 207 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: let if you have sons, do not let your son's 208 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: date women like Mazie Herono. Do not let your sons 209 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: marry women like Mazie Herono. And if you have daughters, 210 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: do not let your daughters to grow up to emulate, idolized, 211 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: or see good value in being like Macie Herono. Do 212 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: better as a parent, which is kind of like a 213 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: theme I got going on today, for sure, But even 214 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: I would be like, I don't. I just can't imagine 215 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: her doing that. I can't, in no rational world could 216 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: I imagine her doing such such a thing, like well, 217 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: it's like a Charlie Kirk dig and that's good. I can't, 218 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: except I've never heard it taking it in the neck, 219 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'm wrong, And I am 220 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: just not it exists all the time, and I've never 221 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: heard it, but holy mackerel, never, never have I heard 222 00:14:52,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: that before taking in the neck, I've heard the other one. Yeah, 223 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: that's better. That's a better one, right, or is it 224 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: this one? I got a million of them, guys, I 225 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: got I got a million. How many more do you want? 226 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I can go from that slide like slide 227 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: whistle to a sliding glass door. Yeah. I don't think 228 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: that's a sliding glass door at all. I think that 229 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: is very very mislabeled. Just hit me as odd. And 230 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: it is possible that, because of heightened awareness, we may 231 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: do that sometimes, and I think it's okay amongst ourselves 232 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: to check on that. Hey, am I Am I hearing 233 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: this right? Am? I? Does this make sense to you? 234 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Am I catching this wrong? Very often? Maybe maybe you're 235 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: not right? We already know that. So many news outlets 236 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: want to take a look at what Jimmy Kimmel said 237 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: about the assassin of Charlie Kirk and be like, well, no, 238 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel never said that. Jimmy Kimmel didn't blame Magga. 239 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel wasn't applying, No, it didn't happen. It's a 240 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: pure gas lighting. They know that they're lying. So we're 241 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: so good at this now that we're able to pick 242 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: that stuff out, stuff that stuff out and say no, no, no, 243 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: that's a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie, that's 244 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: a lie. Because so many lies. They know they're lying 245 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: about what Jimmy Kimmel said. They're just desperately trying to 246 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: protect their their their golden calf there. Well, they need 247 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: a place to go on and be able to attack 248 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Trump from. They they need this. It's important. If not 249 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: everybody's attacking Trump at all times, what exactly do we have? 250 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: But there's still, even amongst those things, a reason to 251 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'm hearing this right, I'm hearing this 252 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: properly right, We're am I missing something here? Because maybe 253 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: it can be at all times. I think it is 254 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: outrageously important to be able to say to yourself, to 255 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: have your wits about you and not be so emotional 256 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: that you say, all right, wait a second, what is 257 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: it that I just heard here? Am I hearing it 258 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: the way I'm supposed to? Do you have a group 259 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: of friends, Do you have some trusted people you'd be like, 260 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: am I crazy? That's all? Am I crazy? As opposed 261 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: to jumping off the edge, if only because a you 262 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be somebody who is engaging in kimmeling, right, 263 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: even if his was accidental, which it wasn't, his was 264 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: purposeful and he wanted to double down on it. That's 265 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: why ABC and Disney took him off the air. He 266 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: wanted to double down and go after those terrible Maga 267 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: people for having ears true story. It wasn't Brendan Carr. 268 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't even the affiliates, all right, it was the affiliates. 269 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: It was Kimmel unwilling to recognize that he lied. But 270 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: you don't want to be the person and going, you know, 271 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: of the off the edge on that stuff, and so 272 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: you want to you know, they not like us. You 273 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: want to take a breath, You want to take a beat. 274 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: That's what you want to do. And make sure now 275 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: you're saying the thing you want to say. That's the 276 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: whole Count's ten rule. Don't just post a thing on 277 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: social media right away. Make sure you're hearing it the 278 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: way it is said. Now I'm telling you I have 279 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: now listened to this a few times from Mazie Herono, 280 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: the Senator from Hawaii. 281 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: This is what's happening, and that is why the bills 282 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: that Senator Marquis, Senator R. Kobachar and I have introduced 283 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: and others will provide some relief for the millions of 284 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: small businesses in our country who are taking it in 285 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: the neck with these terrors. 286 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: I swear to you, I had never heard the term 287 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: taking it in the neck. Ever, so I searched for it, 288 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: taking it in the neck to receive a very serious, 289 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: severe rebuke, scolding, or punishment for one's actions. Turns out 290 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: it's an actual phrase. Huh, Live and learn, Live and learn. 291 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: I had never heard that. I didn't know that. The 292 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: only thing I knew was good thing. I took a 293 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: second to check with you. That's how this thing works. 294 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Kats Today. Find 295 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: everything over at Tony Katz dot com. So there I 296 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: was on the air with Carl Higbee at Newsmax talking 297 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: about Jimmy Kimmel and he was playing this clip of 298 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel talking about Carl Higbee. Was a very meta 299 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: moment and referring to Carl Higbee as a meathead. Well, 300 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: I've met Carl Higbee in person. I don't think you 301 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: want to insult that guy. He's very large. Tony Katz, 302 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. But this 303 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: was about the political right and the political left and 304 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: who you associate with. It was moments later after we 305 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: were done that it was learned that Jimmy Kimmel was 306 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: being taken off the air. And as we know it 307 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: now from the Wall Street Journal story, it's Jimmy Kimmel's fault. 308 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Carl Higbee joins me right now. Frontline is the name 309 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: of the show every Monday through Friday, six pm over 310 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: there at Newsmas. This isn't the first time Kimmel had 311 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: talked about you, but it's got to be a much 312 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: different perspective of the whole thing seeing him removed as 313 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: he was. Was Kimmel just going after you because it 314 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: was someone to go after on Newsmax or was there 315 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: something specific going on? 316 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: Oh, he goes after me quite a bit. Look, this 317 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: is what late night hosts do is, you know, they 318 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: poke fun at things. It looks half the time I 319 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: kind of laugh at it. I mean that's the seldom 320 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: times he actually is funny as when he's calling me 321 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: a meathead, because what's be honest, I'm a bit of 322 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: a meathead. But the issue is is like it's gotten 323 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: to a point of vitriol and hatred and you know, 324 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: it's not funny, and that's part of the reason why 325 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: he's taking off the air. But you know, I see 326 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: all these late night guys as trying to score points 327 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: rather like their goal. 328 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, Tony, and you know. 329 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 3: This, the goal of late night TV is to make 330 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: people laugh, not to score political points, not to put 331 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 3: a narrative like Jimmy Kimmel told everybody who wasn't vaccinated 332 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: deserve to not get treated at hospitals. That's not the 333 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: role of an evening, funny, nighttime host. And he failed 334 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: the litmus test. And that's part of the reason why 335 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 3: he's not there, because he went so far because he 336 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: thought he could get away with it, and you know, 337 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: essentially mock Charlie Kirk's death. 338 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: So I've been a long time believer that the reason 339 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: for the late night host is so those who run 340 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: the networks can turn to their friends and fellow travelers 341 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: and say, listen, I know sometimes we have to say 342 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: things about Trump in the news that might make him 343 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: look good, but this is how we really feel. It's 344 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of a wink and a nod ideologically to all 345 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: of their fellow travelers. But it's certainly clear in my 346 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: view that Jimmy Kimmel wasn't acting as a comic. He 347 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: was acting as a propagandist. So we start with why 348 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: he would talk about you. Then we get into the 349 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,479 Speaker 1: line that cost him the gig, where he's clearly lying 350 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: about who the assassin of Charlie Kirk was. Did you 351 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: address that on the show that he lied or was 352 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: it more overarching? Look at this guy Kimmel over here. 353 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: Look, he did lie. He I mean, he deliberately misled 354 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: his audience. And here's the problem is, like there are 355 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: people that only source their news from one place. They 356 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: might get it only from one show because you know, 357 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: people have lies and they only have time to watch 358 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: maybe an hour of news a day. Okay, I'm thankful 359 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: for the people who that one hour with me too. 360 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: I mean, so when you have somebody who, let's be honest, 361 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: like his viewership was at the time in the last 362 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: few months, has been half half of mine, sometimes far 363 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: less than half of mine. But yet he has a 364 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: legacy of millions of viewers because he's in you know, 365 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: ABC is a network thing in every home and so 366 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 3: it's available to people. So when you tell people that 367 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: may have just gotten home from work and taking their 368 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 3: boots off and had dinner and put the kids to bed, 369 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: and they're watching that half hour and they see him, say, 370 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: this guy the shooter was a MAGA extremist who was 371 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: a MAGA guy. 372 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Don't believe that. 373 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 3: The narrative people are like, wow, that's the news I 374 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: got for today, and they will go out there and 375 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 3: believe something that is patently false, patently false. And that 376 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: was the core essence of what we were addressing there. 377 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 3: But this is the problem with media in general, is 378 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: you have you know, the liberal media is losing their 379 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: mind now that Jimmy Kimber was fired. He was not 380 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: fired by a function of Donald Trump. He was fired 381 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: by a function of the private sector and the free market, 382 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: because there is no more appetite for this stuff. They 383 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: are ninety seven percent negative coverage of Donald Trump. Yet 384 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: one of their people is dismissed, and they're losing the mind. 385 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: The sky is falling. 386 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: Talking to Carl Higbee of Newsmax Monday through Friday at 387 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: six pm. That is the new time. You should check 388 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: them out there and the answer is yes. When it's 389 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: their sandbox, the sky is falling. When they told us 390 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: if we didn't like being the platformed on Twitter, to 391 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: create our own platform, they created Parlor and then they said, 392 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: oh no, you can't have Parlor on the Google Play 393 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: or it or the app store. Right, this is exactly 394 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: what they do, which is really about who thinks whom 395 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: is in charge and who thinks whom should be just 396 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: forced to listen when you engage your programming. Right, Newsmax 397 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: the upstart. Yet it's been around for two decades and 398 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: the stock price went huge and then got back to 399 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: a bit of rationality after it went public. Do you 400 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: still feel view it that way as the upstart? Are 401 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: you still have conversations? Are there ever conversations and news 402 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: Max about here's how we approach things and it's different 403 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: than how they approach things. Or is your content moderated? 404 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know I just asked three questions there, 405 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: but it's all part of the same topic. 406 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: Sure. Look, I am very fortunate for me like I 407 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: the network for the most part, lets me be who 408 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: I want to be. That's part of what my my 409 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 3: thing is. That's part of why they gave me the 410 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: show is they wanted like, look, Cony, I didn't finish college. 411 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: I'm not some like journalism and guy from you know, 412 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: Harvard or one of these Ivy League schools. I'm just 413 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: a guy, Okay. I say what's on my mind. Do 414 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: I say it in the best way and the most 415 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: articulate way possible? Probably not, But you know, that's part 416 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: of what they brought me in to do. And they don't. 417 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: They don't tell me to be someone that I'm not. 418 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 3: They're like, yes, report on what you believe in, you know. 419 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: And that's one of the great things about this network 420 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: is there's there's very little of them coming down on 421 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: me saying you have to say this this way I 422 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: would eventually to say this. Almost none, and I think 423 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 3: that resonates with a lot of people. And that's why 424 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 3: our viewership is like, I don't know, crippled in the 425 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 3: last year, like it's there's a market for normal people, 426 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: and a lot of people on our network are just 427 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 3: like normal guys. Like the two Robs that come after me, 428 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: it's seven and eight, are you know normal guys with 429 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: normal jobs. You know, most of the people on our 430 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: daytime show normal people. Like we're not looking for career 431 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: journalists here, We're looking for people who are, you know, 432 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: suffering from the same problems as every other American. I 433 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: think that's what makes us different, do you. 434 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: But it's about the approach. There's there's no question that 435 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: Kimmel's approach was that of an activist. And I continue 436 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: to make this argument that if you want to call 437 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: him a comedian, you can, but that is not how 438 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: he approached the show. He approached the show as an 439 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: activist and a propagandist for a political party. And that 440 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: is I think downfall because it isn't about attracting the 441 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: wider audience. But we could say a viewer, former Navy seal, 442 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: the things you talk about, you're talking about illegal immigration, 443 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: you're eating tacos on air. It's got you your own heat. 444 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: We've all had our time in the barrel. What's the difference, though, 445 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: Where's the difference that you see between how you engage 446 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: your commentary and how Kimmel was engaging his commentary. 447 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Obviously, I talk about something that 448 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 3: I'm passionate and like, I don't pretend to be a comedian, 449 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: even though in that clip Kimmel tried to say that 450 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: I was, you know, a comedian pretending to be a 451 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: right wing news anchor. Look, I'm thankful that he thinks, 452 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 3: you know, I have a comedic streak in me. I 453 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: like to, you know, bring levity to things that I can. 454 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: But the difference is, like, my job is to inform 455 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: people with, you know, with a twist of my opinion. 456 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: That's literally my job as a news anchor. My you know, 457 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: we start off the show with news. We the monologue 458 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: is my opinion of the top news of the day, 459 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: and then we go into other news of the day. 460 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel in a nighttime slot, his job is to 461 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: entertain people, is be funny and things like that. Now 462 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: you can do both. You can have an opinion and 463 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: things like that, and I think that's fantastic, But if 464 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 3: you're going to be out there, you know, not being 465 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: funny in order to impose something like imagine if I 466 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: only came on TV and sorted doing stand up comedy, 467 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: it wouldn't be my job and the network would be like, hey, Carl, 468 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: you're doing it wrong. And I would they would be right, 469 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: But my job's not that I can be funny and 470 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: get the love of the news. He should have been 471 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: funny and occasionally delivered the news, and he didn't do that. 472 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: He was, you know, too busy telling the unvaccinated people 473 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: they shouldn't go to hospitals and they should die without 474 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: the vaccine. 475 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Talking to you, Carl Higbee of Newsmax. By the way, 476 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: which books are yours? There are a couple of books 477 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: that came out under Carl Higbee, Profiles and Freedom, that's you. 478 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: Profiles and for him, So I actually am most I mean, 479 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: what the funny thing here is most people didn't know 480 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: I could read Tony, but I have written four and 481 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: soon to be five books, Battle on the Home Front, Enemies, 482 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: Foreign and Domestic, Crisis of Culture, and the most recent 483 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: Profiles in Freedom were I basically was like, there's really 484 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: a bunch of important people that some of which we 485 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: know about, some of which we don't, and they should 486 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: all be put in one place so people could read 487 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: it to their kids when they go to bed. Eight 488 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: eight pages tops short stories, and you know that's it's 489 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: written in a very simple vernacular, just like, hey, guys, 490 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 3: George Washington. Did you know that the British didn't think 491 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 3: he was officer material? How'd that work out for him? Like, 492 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: it's all kind of written in lfeheartedness through that. 493 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: By the way, The book Enemies, farg and Domestic A 494 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: Seal Story, is available at Amazon dot Com, along with 495 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: his other books Before I Let You Go. We've heard 496 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: President Trump discuss things like now go after Fallon and 497 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Seth Myers and they go after Trump and it's not okay. 498 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't like that kind of talk at all. They're 499 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: lying absolutely, If they're mocking, it's part of the gig. 500 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: These are two different things. Has the Kimmel really pushing 501 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: himself off the air, But this decision made by Eiger 502 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: of Disney and ABC, has it, in your view, changed 503 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: how everybody in the late night and really in your 504 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: space approaches the subject? Or are you still wait? I'm 505 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: doing it fine, I'm gonna keep going as I am. 506 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't you know I do. I'm going to 507 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: continue to do my thing. I mean, let's be honest, 508 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: like this cancels stuff. Look, they canceled me in twenty nineteen, 509 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: okay for something I said in twenty eleven, Right, and this, 510 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: So this is like a sweet victory for me, and 511 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: people are like, oh, Carl, that's you know, how are 512 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: you out for revenge? Yes, yes i am. I'm not 513 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: above that because these people threatened my children. So when 514 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: it happens to them, when they're canceled for something that 515 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: they said in real time, by the way, not like 516 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: ten years ago, in real time, I'm like, good, you 517 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: know what. This is what you people did to everybody 518 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: else on the Republican side, and now you know what, 519 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: you paved this road. We're just going to drive down it. 520 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: And I don't lose sleep over that, and I celebrate 521 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: it because the only way to level the playing field 522 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: is to play by the same set of rules. And 523 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: for too long Republicans have been getting in the boxing 524 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: ring and be like, all right, ump, what's our ref 525 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: what's the rules? And you get hit in the back 526 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: of the head with a chair or a chain from 527 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: the Democrats and we're like, wait, I didn't know that 528 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: was a rule, Like, we need to start playing by 529 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: the same rules. 530 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: There is a very large standing theory that we told 531 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: the left. You change the rules, you're not gonna like it. 532 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: It's Mitch McConnell to Harry Reid, You're gonna regret going nuclear. 533 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna regret this. And they have Carl Higby. Find 534 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: him on Newsmax every Monday through Friday at six pm. 535 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: Carl Higby, higb I E. You can find him by 536 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: the way on the Twitter xbox over there. Appreciate it 537 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: more to get to I'm Tony Katz. So there's this 538 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: video that's making the rounds. And I thought this video 539 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: was a little bit older, but it still tells a story. 540 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: And this is a story of a bunch of people 541 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: who want to protest immigrations and Customs Enforcement from doing 542 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: their job. The ICE agents are quite literally in camo 543 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: and gas masks and everything else. The crowd is trying 544 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: to stop cars from passing through. The crowd is throwing 545 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: things at the cars. ICE let's loose like tear gas 546 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: to disperse the crowd. The crowd is throwing the tear 547 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: gas back. People are getting arrested, and now it's like 548 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: rubber bullets and I don't know it's paintballs. I don't 549 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: know what they are. I have no idea what the 550 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: non lethal things that they're using being shot at these 551 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: people and you say to yourself, man, America's got weird. 552 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't disagree, Tony Kats Tony Katz today, good to 553 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: be with you. There's nothing new about this, and I 554 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: think that it is important to remember that part of 555 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: it that for a tremendous number of people, the desperation 556 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: is to relive the sixties, the romanticized nonsense of the sixties, 557 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: of the violence of the sixties, Summer of Love and 558 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: all that jazz was. The romanticized point of view is 559 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: this is how you prove your decent human being. And 560 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: right now the car is trying to drive, and these 561 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: people are arm in arm trying to stop the car 562 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: from moving. It's a car. They don't care. They believe 563 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: that they won't get run over, because what they do 564 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: is they say, here's the social contract. You're not gonna 565 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: hurt me, because you'll get sued. And so they go 566 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: about engaging like absolute animals in the belief that nothing 567 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: bad will happen to them. Now you know that, I'm 568 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: a believer that if you block traffic, bad things what 569 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: happened to you. If you destroy art, you should expect 570 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: to get pummeled. If you glue yourself to the street. Well, 571 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: then you should expect to die on the street, and 572 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: nobody should remove you, and nobody should help you, and 573 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: nobody should save you. You glue yourself to the street, 574 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: or you glue yourself to a wall. It's on you. 575 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about it. Don't tell tell me, 576 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: and I now have to be the nice guy. I'm 577 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: not interested in being the nice guy. You're a fool. 578 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: These people are fools. What it is that we're actually 579 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: seeing here is the play acting of these people wanting 580 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: to live out a fantasy of Look at me, I'm 581 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: standing up for things. If you want a real aggressive 582 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: look at the failures of education. Here it is. And 583 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about education in the schools which 584 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: gen these things up, whether it be high schools or colleges. 585 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the education at the home. Where's a 586 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: sense of purpose, where's a sense of morality, where's a 587 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: sense of decency, where's a sense of how to engage? 588 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist, and that void is filled by the 589 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: radicals on the college campus that says it is this, 590 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: by these groups that want to push the idea of 591 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: the end of Western civilization, that want to push this 592 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: idea that everything the government does must be fought and 593 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: fought aggressively because they're the the man man. What's really 594 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: amazing is that the left has refused to realize that 595 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: they are the skolds and they are the man man. 596 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is the man man, from the pants suits 597 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: to the insider trading. She's the man man that in 598 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: the sixties they were fighting against. This is play acting, 599 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: and play acting in many ways can be solved with 600 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: real action. And the key reaction is stop sending your 601 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: kids to these schools to be indoctrinated into this. It's 602 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: your money, they're your kids. You have to be proactive. 603 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: You can't. We can no longer be the people who 604 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: are like I just want to stay connected to my 605 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: kid and it's a phase and they'll get through it. No, 606 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: it's real life danger, whether it's this or it's the 607 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: assassination of Charlie Kirk, you have to say no. You 608 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: have to be clear, and you have to be willing 609 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 1: to hold I am more a believer in this than ever. 610 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: I'll discuss more of it. Find everything at tonycats dot 611 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: com Monday. Everyone, take care,