1 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: This is three WIBC. 2 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm Ethan Hatcher, joined by Brad Kloppenstein and producer keV 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: and the producer's Fishboll pushing the buttons and doing the 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: things to make the show function. 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: This segment. Producer this segment. 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: Brad, I wanted to talk about the oral arguments being 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: offered in the Supreme Court now currently centered around the 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 2: citizenship birthright citizenship controversy. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump obviously. 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Against providing automatic birthright citizenship to foreign nationals who visit 11 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: our country and big old air quotes there get getting 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: anchor baby, get their foot in the door to the country, 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: as well as to our social services and welfare system 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: as a consequence of having a legal American citizen for 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: a child. This is i think something that definitely needs 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: to be resolved. But I'm not sure that Donald Trump 17 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: is doing himself any favors in this issue. 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Brad to the oral arguments, Yeah, person. 19 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: Yes, the first president to do so. As reported by 20 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Fox News. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, President Trump about to leave 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: the White House. You just got into the motor kaid 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: there the beast and he will be going up. I 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: think it's about a mile, maybe not even that much up. 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: To sixty from sixteen hundred Pennsylvany Avenue up to the 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: Supreme Court. He will be the first president in history 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: to sit and listen to an oral argument. This is 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: about birthright citizenship. On day one of his second term, 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: he signed in an executive order that said this is 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: no more. And it's been going up through the courts 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: and now today the oral argument will be heard starting. 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: At ten o'clock. 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: This has never happened before. 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. 35 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: This is why I say that he might be giving 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: himself a bit of a problem here, because I don't 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: think that the Supreme Court justices are going to respond 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: too kindly to the President of the United States given 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: them the stinkye while they are evaluating these issues, because 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Donald Trump can't help himself. 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Well, he already called about directly during the State of 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: the Union last year, so well this year too. Well 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, So you think you just sit around 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: the White House the Nationals have a day game. I 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: could go catch that, or I could go sit in 46 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: oral arguments. I'm gonna go sit in on oral arguments. 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: Well, it also kind of strays treads the line a 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: little too closely of the separation of powers when you 49 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: have potentially the President of the United States pressuring decision 50 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: from the Supreme Court. Actually, this ties directly into the 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: conversation of birthright citizenship, which was resolving the dread Scott 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: decision from the Supreme Court. And that was actually an 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: intrusion of the executive into the judicial when it was 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: President Buchanan at the time had directly written the Chief 55 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: Justice of the Supreme Court intervening and encouraging him to 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: rule against dred Scott and rule that African Americans did 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: not have citizenship in the United States as slaves. How 58 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: do you know that because it's part of history, Brad, 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: It is part of history. 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I read these things. Okay, that's true. Well, you were 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: from the eighteen hundreds, so. 62 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that the Supreme Court is going 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: to respond well, and that's a problem when you really 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: need a resolution to this issue in favor of the administration. 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: But so far you have it seems like Justice amy 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: Cony Barrett tipping her hand that potentially she would be 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: opposed to undoing birthright citizenship. And you also have Chief 68 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: Justice John Roberts also potentially opposed to redoing or reconsidering 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. I believe he was speaking with the Solicitor 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: General John Sower and saying that it's the times have changed, 71 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: but the Constitution remains the same, I believe is the. 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Quote, So where do you fall on this issue? 73 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: I do not think that there is any reasonable interpretation 74 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: that people that the fourteenth Amendment was meant to apply 75 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: to individuals that were immigrating en mass to then circumvent 76 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: the immigration process and be entitled to the welfare state 77 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: by having a child here in the United States, something 78 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: that also didn't really exist in the form that exists 79 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: today when that bill or when the amendment was originally passed, 80 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: and you could tell from the text and the language 81 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: that this was to resolve the issue of citizenship for 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: the African Americans who were recently freed, and it was 83 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: directly addressing that issue following the Civil Rule War. I 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: believe that's the case. Of course, the lawyer for the 85 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: ACLU who is opposed to this, saying exactly the opposite, 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: Celia Wang. Cecilia Wang maintains that the framers definitely intended 87 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: for foreigners to have anchor babies here in the United States. 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 4: The first thing I would say in response, is that 89 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: once again it's crystal clear from Wankimmark and from the debates, 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: but that the framers of the fourteenth Amendment meant to 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 4: have a universal common law rule of citizenship subject to 92 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 4: the closed set of exceptions, and we can't take the 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: current administrations policy considerations into account to try to re 94 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: engineer and radically reinterpret the original meaning of the fourteenth Amendment. 95 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: The second point I would make is that in fact, 96 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: the framers did consider the concept and the actual problems 97 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: of immigration that were coming up at that time. In 98 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: addition to this notable exchange between the Senator Cowen and 99 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: Senator Kannes, where Cowen says, if we have this citizenship 100 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: clause as part of the Constitution, we are going to 101 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 4: encourage these gypsy with what he called jips Roma in Pennsylvania, 102 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: whom he characterized as invaders, trespassers, and lawbreakers. Will encourage 103 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: them to come into our country because there's children will 104 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: be citizens, he says Senator Konness, in your state of California, 105 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: you'll be facing a mass flood of Chinese immigration if 106 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: we adopt the citizenship rule. And Senator Conness himself an 107 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 4: Irish immigrant says yes, and I am voting for that 108 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: because I believe in citizenship by virtue of birth without 109 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: regard to parentage. 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: So what do you think about that, Brad? Where are 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: your opinions on this issue? Well, first, she said gypsies. 112 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: I could only I just kept picturing Granny from the 113 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: Beverly Hillbilly. 114 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: He's getting all weirded out about gypsies. That being said, 115 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I guess I believe if it was intended for foreigners 116 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: to their children who were born here to have citizenship, 117 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: I think that that implies foreigners who are here legally, 118 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 1: so that they've gone through the process us, They've jumped 119 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: through the hoops, we vetted them and said, yes, you 120 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: were the kind of people we would like to have here. 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: They have to be domiciled. 122 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: They have to be domiciled here, and the direct the 123 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: language of the amendment includes residence, and that that would 124 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: that would imply domiciled into the United States otherwise legal 125 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: residents of this country. 126 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, now this is a this is a long stretch. 127 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: But like in the law, if they're collecting evidence, if 128 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: you do something illegal to collect evidence, then you could 129 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: no longer admit that evidence because there was an illegal 130 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: act that preceded the evidence appearing through to the poisonous 131 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: tree exactly. So I think that this is almost something similar. 132 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: It's like, well, if you're if you broke a law 133 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: to get here, then anything that benefits you after being 134 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: here is also should also not count illegal something I'm. 135 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: Not saying it very well, but well, actually, Flunky Katanji 136 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: Brown Jackson actually believes that if you are a lawbreaker, 137 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: that that makes you subject to the jurisdiction and of 138 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: the country in which you break the law, then you 139 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: would be owing allegiance. I believe the words that she 140 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: used in her argument against removing birthright citizenship. 141 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: I was thinking about this, and I think they see 142 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 5: there are various sources that say this that you can have. 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: You obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in 144 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 5: whatever country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you 145 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: also have local allegiance when you are on the soil 146 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: of this other sovereign. And I was thinking, you know, 147 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 5: I'm i a US citizen and visiting Japan, and what 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: it means is that you know, if I steal someone's 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can arrest me and 150 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 5: prosecute me. It's allegiance, meaning can they control you as 151 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 5: a matter of law. I can also rely on them 152 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 5: if my wallet is stolen to you know, under Japanese law, 153 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: go and prosecute the person who has stolen it. 154 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: So there's this relationship. 155 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 5: Based on even though I'm a temporary traveler, I'm just 156 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: on vacation in Japan, I'm still locally owing allegiance in 157 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 5: that set. 158 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: What the hell is even that? God, get everybody out 159 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: of my yard? 160 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: What What a s dummer for having listened to that. 161 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Although I think. 162 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: Totally expected from the woman that couldn't even provide a 163 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: definition for what a woman is during her confirmation hearing, 164 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: I think we expected this kind of disastrous rhetoric exactly 165 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: out of Katanji Brown Jackson, who's been nothing but a 166 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: disgrace since her confirmation to the Supreme Court. 167 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I think what she was getting to is that you 168 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: don't have diplomatic immunity unless you're a diplomat and you 169 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: are subject to the laws of whatever country you go to. 170 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: That is correct, But so her theory is that by 171 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: becoming a law breaker, you can act actually get some 172 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: benefit from the country. As a result of breaking the 173 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: law and making yourself subject there too, and thereby owing 174 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 2: allegiance to the country. I mean, this is a very tortured, 175 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: freaky logic. 176 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: You're giving way too much credit to that line of thought. Yes, 177 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: and she gave it too much credit as well. 178 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Fortunately during the conversation you had Justice Clarence Thomas circle 179 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: back to the central issue, back to the interpretation at 180 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: the time in his questioning of Solicitor General John Sower, 181 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: who made the point that this was about fixing and 182 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: addressing the wrongs of the dred Scott's decision that preceded 183 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: it in the Supreme Court. 184 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Justice Thomas. 185 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 6: How maybe start by addressing dread Scott. You know, as 186 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: you alluded to the fact, dread Scott, you know, impose 187 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 6: one of the worst injustices in the history of this Court, 188 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 6: and it led to the outbreak of the Civil War. 189 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 6: It's very clear in this Court in all of its 190 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 6: early cases interpreting the forge of Amendment said, you know, 191 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 6: the one pervading perapists. The main object of the citizenship 192 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 6: clause is to overrule dred Scott and establish the citizenship 193 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 6: of the freed slaves. And if you look at the 194 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 6: debates in the Congressional record and discussion surrounding the adoption 195 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 6: of the citizenship clause. What you see is if very 196 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 6: clear understanding that the newly freed slaves and their children 197 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 6: have a relationship of domicile. They do not have a 198 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 6: relationship to any foreign power. For example, there's a comment 199 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 6: where he says, look, people have been here for five 200 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 6: generations who know clearly have no relationships to any foreign 201 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: African potentate. You have a relationship of allegiance to the 202 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 6: United States, And that reinforces our point that allegiance is 203 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 6: what the word jurisdiction means. It doesn't mean regulatory jurisdiction 204 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 6: or or you know, or sort of being subject merely 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 6: subject to the laws. They're talking and they're thinking about 206 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 6: it in those debates about allegiance. 207 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: So a masterful dissent against the tortured logic of Katanji 208 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: Brown Jackson. I think he is getting to the actual 209 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: heart of the issue there. It at least made some sense, Yes, yes, 210 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: definitely more sense than the justice Really. I hope we 211 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: resolved this issue. We plug the hole that has been 212 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: created by this very tortured interpretation of the fourteenth Amendment 213 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: for quite a while. Now, I'm just concerned that Donald 214 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 2: Trump's interference is going to backfire in spectacular fashion. Right 215 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: he should have just watched online, been a neutral observer. 216 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,359 Speaker 1: Right exactly. But you're right, you could almost imply intimidation 217 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: by him being present. 218 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh, he's got to give him stink guy. Yeah, I 219 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: mean he can't help himself. That's the problem with that 220 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He doesn't know when to quit. Quit while 221 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: you're ahead sometimes, right exactly. Just yeah, let the process 222 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: play out. Say yep, I'm on the right side of 223 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: history until you're not. Thanks for listening to ninety three 224 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: at WIBC. Coming up next. Sid Mahunt appeared on the 225 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: Mouthwash podcast with Andrew Ireland and the King of Trust 226 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: here in the General Assembly backed him into a corner 227 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: so hard about potential discrepancies in his history of residents 228 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: as he is now running for yet another office. Seems 229 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: to be a serial office hound. That's Sid Mahant, and 230 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: we will replay a portion of that conversation coming up 231 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: next on ninety three WIBC. I'm not thanks for listening 232 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: to ninety three WIBC. If you like what we're doing here. 233 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: This morning. 234 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: Make sure to hop on the YouTube machine, give us 235 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: a like, give the channel a follow, and keep tuned 236 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: for future updates. On ninety three WIBC, I'm Ethan Hatcher. 237 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: That's Brad Kloppenstein and producer keV pushing the buttons and 238 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: doing the things to keep the show functioning in the 239 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: producer's fish bowl. This morning, Brett I wanted to talk 240 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 2: about Sid Mahant. He is currently campaigning for state representative 241 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: I believe in District forty out of Avon. He is 242 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: He's made his shot at office a couple a few 243 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: times now at this point. 244 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: A serial candidate. 245 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: Yes, office hopper I believe is one of the things 246 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: they call individuals like that. He is the owner of 247 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: a trucking company I believe here in Indianapolis. And he 248 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: was also opposed to the revocation of non English speaking 249 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: illegal immigrant CDL holders in the state. Just a coincidence. 250 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know tild company that probably aloys those 251 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: people go on, probably a few of them. While just 252 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: wild speculation that he appeared on the Mouthwash podcast with 253 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: Andrew Ireland and this was a phenomenal exchange where Andrew 254 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: Ireland really backed him into a corner on his residency record, 255 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: because he seems to be saying one thing while doing another, 256 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: and this could potentially create some election problems. Not the 257 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: first time that he would have been found to be 258 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: a re publican, not in good standing or have other 259 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: issues with the campaign. Andrew Ireland masterful takedown. 260 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Here you're at. 261 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 7: Avon, right, Yeah, and hey, you've been there for a while. Honestly, 262 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 7: I think how long have you been out Davon, Andrew? 263 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 7: You can ask me straight question, and I'm doing that. 264 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 7: That's what I'm asking. How long have you been out Davon. 265 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 8: No, you know, everything's a pretty simple question. 266 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Man. How long you lived in Avon? 267 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 7: I moved in twenty fourteen, back in day twenty fourteen. 268 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 7: My company. The reason I'm asking, and I just you're talking. 269 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 7: I know why you going with some of the political 270 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 7: stuff and loft cycle. Right, you registered to vote in 271 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 7: Steuben County, right, which is up in the far northeastern 272 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: corner of the state. This was just two years ago. 273 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 8: Then you try to run for Congress in the fifth district. 274 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 8: You had a Noblesville address that's in north of Indianapolis. Right, 275 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 8: I didn't work out the Victoria's Parks decided to run again. 276 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 7: Maybe that's what he decided to get out. I'm not 277 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 7: sure quite what the timing was there. 278 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 8: But then you had a Greenwood address that you registered 279 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 8: to vote at, and you decided to run for Congress. 280 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 7: On the south side of Indianapolis, the east side of Indianapolis, 281 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 7: and this district you got kicked off the ballot on 282 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 7: that one. 283 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 8: Right, both Democrats and Republicans said you were calling by 284 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 8: because you only voted in one Republican primary. 285 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 7: But now you're saying you live in Avon and you've 286 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 7: lived there since twenty fourteen. 287 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 8: I'm what I'm trying to understand, man, I see, it's 288 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 8: really hard to take somebody seriously to think that they're 289 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 8: honest about something that they're saying. When you're telling people 290 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 8: that you've lived in Avon since twenty fourteen, you're reagised 291 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 8: to vote in Stephen County. 292 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 7: Then you had a Noblesville address, then you registered in Greenwood. 293 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 7: But somehow the whole time you've actually been living in Avon. 294 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 8: Is that right? 295 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 7: What's wrong with that? 296 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 8: Oh, you're telling the federal government, you're telling the state 297 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 8: government that you live in one place. 298 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 7: But when it's convenient to you. 299 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 8: You can move to another place, and then to another one, 300 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 8: and then now finally, when you think you've got an 301 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 8: opportunity to run through. 302 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 7: Another office, I've got office Hoppic. It's gone to something that. 303 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 8: Changes people obeye. Right now, you're running an avon. That's 304 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 8: what I'm trying to understand is you try to swear 305 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 8: that with me. You told me that you've been there 306 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 8: since twenty fourteen, but you told the federal government something 307 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 8: very different. 308 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 7: No, I did not anything you did. 309 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a bit of a problem when it 310 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: seems like you change your residency more often than you 311 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: change your underwear. 312 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: I could think of at least a couple people, three 313 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: people in fact, that have been guilty of this, two 314 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: of which were Secretary of State. Sorry, although if you 315 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: run for Congress, you do not have to live in 316 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: the district, so oh fun times, Yeah it is so. 317 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, Ethan, even you was a resident of 318 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: the seventh district here in Marion County, you could run 319 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: in any district you want in the state of Indiana. 320 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: You just could not vote for yourself. But you're looking 321 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: to me like you don't believe this. No, I believe this. 322 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: It's just a shame that that that's the case, because 323 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: you should absolutely have to represent the community that you 324 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: live in, which I think is the core issue of 325 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: Andrew Ireland's objections here. How can you adequately represent the 326 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: people of Avon when you've been switching around your residency 327 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: all over Greenwood, Noblesville just to be you're able to 328 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: run in whatever whatever off us you think is potentially vulnerable. 329 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: Yes, it's so he's out off of shopping, which I 330 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: am not the only person to do that. I think, 331 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: having not known a lot about him, but knowing what 332 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: he's done, I would call him probably a bit of 333 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: a whack. That's swating it mildly. It's it's funny that 334 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: he is. Also then the Whack podcast is the one 335 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: calling him out. Well, let's not give him too much credit. 336 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: That's that's Andrew Ireland doing the heavy list look at otherwise. 337 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know other people on that podcast, one in particular. 338 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: A little out here, a little bit, a little bit, 339 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: but you know, hey, look we were happy to replay 340 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: conversation and Andrew Ireland absolutely dominating in that instance and 341 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: bringing up some some very good points. 342 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, it maybe be given, said Mahon, a little extra. 343 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: Scrutiny there, considering his background and the way he seems 344 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: to be hopping around just looking for any kind of vulnerability. 345 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: It comes off as an opportunistic carpet back. 346 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: It does. Although I know the Republican Party has tried 347 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: to kick him off the ballot saying he's not a 348 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Republican in good standing. But what they're using is he 349 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: donated to a Democrat for public office several years ago, 350 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: and they're saying that that makes you not in good standing. 351 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: I would think that, you know, in my lifetime, I've 352 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: donated to lots of candidates. 353 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: The always anticipation requirement is a little bs because it 354 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: precludes I think eighty percent of the state from potentially 355 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: running for office. The two primary rule, Yeah, makes it 356 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: so that the average person has zero chance of running 357 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: for office. Now, you can't convince me that the government 358 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: has a compelling interest in keeping eighty percent of its 359 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: citizens away from running from office. 360 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: That that seems like a bit of a problem there. Yeah, 361 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: they don't, so that in this instance, it's it's good 362 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: that somebody's pointing out that, hey, you've run for office 363 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: in a number of different places You've claimed to have 364 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: lived in Avon now for twelve years, but in the 365 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: meantime time you've tried to run in an number of 366 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: other places. Where do you live and yes, tell us 367 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: where you want to run and what you want to 368 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: run for. And if you claim that you live in 369 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: Stuben County, did you pay taxes in Steuben County? Where's 370 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: your homestead? 371 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: We're at homestead tax exemption Diego Morales ninety three WIBC. 372 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: Of course, hypocrisy dripping from almost every level of government 373 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: at this point, which is why I wanted to circle 374 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: around to a post from the Lieutenant Governor's Facebook page 375 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: where he posted this week today, we kicked off Child 376 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Abuse Prevention Month at the State House with a very 377 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: productive discussion along leaders from Indiana's child advocacy centers. It 378 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 2: was a privilege to meet with Kim Ullensanker, the new 379 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: executive director of the statewide chapter, along with Christine Courts 380 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: of Holly House and Cassie Frasier of Sylvia's Place. These 381 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: centers play a critical role across Indiana, with twenty six 382 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: centers serving all ninety two counties. They partner closely with DCS, 383 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: law enforcement and prosecutors to respond to child abuse cases. 384 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: So the problem with this producer or not co host 385 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: Brad is this. 386 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: Is not necessarily the correct entity to be voicing this 387 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: when Micah Beckwith seems to constantly be surrounded by a 388 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: scandal of a sexual nature, whether it's the accusations of 389 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: topless ai porn being Native State legislators wives coming out 390 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: of his office, or his close association and friendship with 391 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: his friend pastor and advisor Nathan Peternell, whose son was 392 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: a convicted pedophile and ended up with photographs, sexual images 393 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 2: of his parents, and videos of intercourse of his parents. 394 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: We still have no clarity on how those videos ended 395 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: up in his hard drive and in Micah Beckworth's backyard. There, 396 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 2: you hat life church. You have children who were potentially 397 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: at risk for child predation. So you know, if anybody 398 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: needs to be prosecuting child sex abusement like start in. 399 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: Your own backyard back with how about you start there? 400 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: That's my issue. You probably should have passed that one 401 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: off to the governor or give it control literally anybody 402 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: on the office holder. 403 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: No, because the hypocrisy in this instance is absolutely glaring, 404 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: and that's what you know, that's what we wanted to 405 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: highlight here, Brad, because we're not afraid to hold both 406 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: sides accountable for bad behavior, because what we what we 407 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: seek is good governance and representation of the constituents. 408 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: Yes. Well, sadly, it seems to be repeat offenders that 409 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: are responsible for the bulk of the bad behavior. Yes, 410 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: and well. 411 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 2: One thing, one thing we've learned from the Epstein files 412 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,959 Speaker 2: is how many rich pedophiles. 413 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: There are in this country. Well, I think, does money 414 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: make you a pedophile? Or do pedofiles get rich? Well, 415 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: it's an interesting question, but we could punder that later 416 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: on in the show. 417 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to ninety three wib Stay tuned for 418 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: WIBC News coming up next. Welcome back to ninety three 419 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: wib C. 420 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: I can't believe how fast this show is flown by. 421 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: But I'm flig when you're having fun and great conversations 422 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: all around you. 423 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: Not only are we lovinging it in this room, I 424 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: just learned we're being listened to in France, France a 425 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: French Fries French toast, So yes, we're being streamed around 426 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: the world. Can you believe it? All around the country, 427 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: all around the toast. 428 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: French toast. 429 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: Like French toast. 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It helps boost 440 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 2: the show in the station, in the algorithm, and spread 441 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: the message here. 442 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: There's lots of entertaining side conversations going on too. Yeah. 443 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: Amused by this, Yes, yeah, all of them complimentary. Amused. 444 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. You know, we will take all kinds. 445 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: Whether you want to hate listen or you love listening, 446 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: it still counts to our ratings just the same. 447 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: It does. 448 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: Good news coming from Cape Canaveral this week as we 449 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: launched Artemis two going to the Moon. I am very 450 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: excited about this, Brad. The first time in fifty years 451 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 2: that the United States has launched a space mission outside 452 00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: of low Earth orbit. 453 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited about this. Oh, it happened when I 454 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: was a kid. You weren't alive last time we were there. 455 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: Did you get to see the moon landing in sixty nine? Man, 456 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: I was alive, but I was one, not even one, 457 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: so too young to ib she ate the magnitude in 458 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: the gravity of what was going on. I probably saw it, 459 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it. 460 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: Over the thirds of all television audiences at the time. 461 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: I think it was close to like eighty percent of 462 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: all TV viewers were tuned into that one singular broadcast 463 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: when we landed on the Moon. You're never going to 464 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: have that kind of rating for any event ever again. 465 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: But I mean at the time, it was, you know, 466 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: world history making. 467 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's because we only had three channels, and to 468 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: change the channel you had to get up and walk 469 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: across the room and physically turn the knob, and most 470 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: likely all three channels were showing it. This kid interviewed 471 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: by CNN. He is excited. He knows what's up with this, 472 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: this moon landing? Why do you want to be here? 473 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Why do you love space? Why do you love being 474 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: part of history? 475 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 9: We're going back to the point. 476 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: That is the best, the best audio we've had in 477 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: a long time. Tell me, enthusiasts, tell me that that 478 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: went out live on CNN. You did it did Okay, 479 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: so it did no bleep? It just no, we had 480 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: to add the bleep. Okay, it's freaking awesome. 481 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: It's also cable television, so they don't have the same 482 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: kind of rules and regulations to deal with that we 483 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: have on terrestrial radio and the FCCS buying eyes and 484 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: grubby little fingers getting all over the operation. But yeah, 485 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: I mean, at least at least somebody appreciates it, you know, 486 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: and space needs to be cool for kids. Again, think 487 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: about all the civilian applications that pushing that technology has 488 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: brought to us. You know, it's it's not just a waste, 489 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 2: you know, not just a waste of taxpayer thrones. You're 490 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: not throwing it down the drain. When you push for 491 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: space exploration, it's the final frontier. This is also building 492 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: up for yet another test run for yet another moon landing. 493 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: And potentially building a moon base. I think that's very exciting. 494 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I think that's exciting. Do you remember the Cadillac commercial 495 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: from ten or twelve years ago. It was kind of 496 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: an American Pride thing. But he's talking, He's like, to 497 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: the moon. Were the only ones who'd been to the moon. 498 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 1: We left a car or we've got a car up there, 499 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: left the keys in it, you know why, because we're 500 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: the only ones going back. Cadillac were the people that 501 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: built the moon were over. I don't know if they 502 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: did that, but that basically it was an American Pride 503 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: type commercial. But he was just talking about all the 504 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: great things America has done. He's like, we're the only 505 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: ones to go to the moon. We left a car 506 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: up there, left the keys in it, because we're the 507 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: only ones going back. 508 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: Fox News noted that there were several firsts with this launch, 509 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: and look, I think they kind of actually, in a 510 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: weird way, detracted from this by focusing too much on 511 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: the external qualifiers of these people and not on the 512 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: merits for why. 513 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: They're on the space mission. 514 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, look, this one has boobs, and that 515 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: one's a you know, black guy, and this guy's a 516 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: Canadian dude, because that's evidently what they think is important 517 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: for a space mission. 518 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 7: The vehicle's ready to go. 519 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 10: Among the crew are the first woman or first person 520 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 10: of color and first Canadian on a lunar mission, Jonathan. 521 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of first. 522 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 10: Happening here, and all four astronauts will represent the best 523 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 10: of humanity as they explore the benefit of all. That 524 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 10: is the words of the director of NASA's Johnson Space Center. 525 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: And I like the way that the astronaut responded to that, 526 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: because he's like, look, I would rather people not get 527 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: excited by my skin. 528 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Color being an astronaut. 529 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: I would hope they're more excited about the qualifications that 530 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: I bring to the mission, which is what I think 531 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: NASA prime, and I'm sure NASA is focused on. It's 532 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: just the media has been trained to lap stuff like 533 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: this up, you know, and it didn't work out so 534 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: well the last time they had the first woman in space, 535 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: as I recall, Fortunately we did not load up. 536 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this in there. I draw the line at 537 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: the Canadians, but there are a lot of furs. Sorry 538 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: to make you laugh like that. Actually I'm not sorry. 539 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're laughing. So, but the last time we 540 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: were up you dang Canucks build your own space, right. 541 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: The last time we were up at the Moon was 542 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: what fifty five years ago, two fifty four years ago. 543 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: If you go fifty four years before that, the model 544 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: t Ford was like the best selling car. 545 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: Things change, Yeah, things change rapidly, and the technology has 546 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: vastly improved since the last time we had a space 547 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: flight outside of low Earth orbit. So hopefully that is 548 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: a much more comfortable process for our astronauts now, and 549 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: hopefully we also won't have a repeat of Apollo thirteen Singular. 550 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: You know, they they got to do a manual landing Houston. 551 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: We have a problem. Don't want to repeat that. 552 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: They seemed to have the nice little infinite loop set 553 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: up for this thing. But you know, you know, what 554 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: does it going to mean? We're gonna be fighting about 555 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: data centers on the moon now, Ethan, Well, you. 556 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 2: Could put them on the Moon, because it's not going 557 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: to be ruined anybody's neighborhoods up there. That'd be a 558 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: great spot for people on the moon base to work, 559 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, take care of the data centers and it's 560 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 2: not going to be driving up the utility prices here. 561 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: Will you know, build a nuclear reactor out there? 562 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: I bet so. Solar panels probably kick ass up there 563 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: on the Moon. 564 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got direct access to sunlight, and then you 565 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: don't have the wind storms that go on here. 566 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: It's going to it doesn't rotate. Sunshines twenty four hours 567 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: a day. 568 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, how long it is their days twenty four 569 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: hours of our day, you know, I don't know how 570 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: long it was. 571 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't rotate. They don't have a day. It's all 572 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: one day. That's why. Don't whatever you do, don't build 573 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: the solar panels on the dark side of the moon. No, no, no, exactly. 574 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Not very efficient over. 575 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: There, but very exciting that we are returning to space 576 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: and hopefully this will be the start of greater things 577 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: to come in the near future. It will continue to 578 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: push our aspirations and ambitions further into the stars and 579 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: improve technology for everybody still living here on planet Earth. 580 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: That's the important part. It is well. And also we 581 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: got the clip from that kid that I want to 582 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: use every time in the future that I'm on this show. 583 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: We should all be excited like that kid for space travel. 584 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: It's freaking cool man exactly. 585 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: Brad Ethan are on the Morning Show. Thanks for listening 586 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: to ninety three wib C. Final segment of the show 587 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: coming up next, But that's not your cue to leave, 588 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: stick around, stay tuned, and we're going to tell you 589 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: about fun things to do for the Final Four which 590 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: is in town. And then also it's Dingus Day on Monday, 591 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: Ethan Dingus Day. 592 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Dingus Day details coming up next. 593 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 6: As eyes. 594 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: It makes me feel like giving cosmop best jes Dame do. 595 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: It in the Thanks for listening to ninety three wib see. 596 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: We've been running wild on the morning show. I haven't 597 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 2: been with Brad Eithan Hatcher and Brad Klopfenstein. 598 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Kevin, what the hell is this? Ruby? Whatever it is? 599 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: The Innimals, Yeah, don't bring me down, Okay, Yeah, I 600 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: love the animals. This is a deep cut for them, 601 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: good pick. 602 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 10: Yeah. 603 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: I actually heard this at a bar once and I 604 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: thought it would be great for the show. Is It 605 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: is an excellent selection. You know who else? 606 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: I really enjoy the Kinks. That's the British Invasion. Yes 607 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: to the British Invasion. Thanks for listening to ninety three 608 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: wib see. The Final Four has come to town. There 609 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: is lots to do just down the street from us. 610 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: They have a free stage with an amazing lineup of 611 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: very popular artists and wish TV reported on some of 612 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: the artists featured in the Final Four Festival this year. 613 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 9: Well Post Malone is set to headline the Capital One 614 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 9: Jamfest on Sunday, April fifth. He will close out the 615 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 9: March Madness Music Festival American Legion Mall. The free three 616 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 9: day festival also features Megan Maroney, Dominic Fike, twenty one Pilots. 617 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: And Zach Brown Band. 618 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 9: Fans can also keep the celebration going late into the 619 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 9: night with Madness after Dark at the Indiana Roof Ballroom 620 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 9: on Saturday, April fourth, featuring a special performance by the Chainsmokers. 621 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 9: Tickets for that late night party go on sale on Wednesday. 622 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: You got Posty, you got chain Smokers. There's a lot 623 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: going on chain Smokers. I would love to go see them. Yeah, 624 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: back ground band. 625 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: But the air is going to be thick around the 626 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Final Four Festival pavilion. 627 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of gus out kind of with a knight. Yeah, 628 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: a lot of this outdoors at the American Legion Mall, 629 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: just as it's got that giant ferris wheel that is 630 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: free to ride. I believe I did notice that. 631 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: I also noticed that it took me longer to get 632 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: into work this morning because I had to drive around 633 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: all the street closures just to find my way into 634 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: the station. 635 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: But we got here. We got here public transit ethan. Yeah, 636 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: come on, man, I'm not gonna ride the Indiga. I 637 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: don't want to ride the Indiago. So I'm excited. So 638 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: in addition, so you've got tonight's twenty one pilots, so 639 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: that's free. Just down the street at American Legion Mall. 640 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: You got the far Sweel I believe is also free. 641 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I think that fires up at like four four thirty 642 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: today and then runs all weekend. You got tailgating events. 643 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: You got March Madness Music Festival at the American Legion Mall. 644 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: For the kids, you got April fifth an event at 645 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: the Final four Dribbles Dribble at Carol Stadium, West New 646 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 2: York Street. Kids under eighteen can parade through downtown and 647 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: finish at the fan fest. There's just a lot of 648 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: fun stuff to do. A lot of people that enjoy 649 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: the sports, get ball, which I'm not. 650 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: I know that's not your thing, but you know, I 651 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: like a good part. 652 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm happy to have all the commerce coming to downtown 653 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 2: and if people are enjoying themselves and spending their hard 654 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: earned shekels here. 655 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm excited to have all these 656 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: fings in town. Yeah, exactly, Well, especially with Michigan and 657 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: Illinois being so close. I mean, they're bringing people in here. 658 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: Last night was final four for the n T that 659 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: was up at Hinklefield House at Butler. Who are the 660 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: n i T. So they the n i T are 661 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: the teams that were good but not good enough to 662 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: get into the NCAA tournament. So then there's a secondary 663 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: tournament for them. And so last night sports get ball 664 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: for the second placers. Sort of. Yes, so Tulsa beat 665 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: New Mexico and Auburn beat somebody Illinois State. Maybe you're 666 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: you're asking the wrong guys. I'm trying to go for memory. 667 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: So regardless, So the n i T finals are coming up. 668 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: You got Division two, Division three finals coming up this 669 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: weekend as well. All these people are in town. 670 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: Mill creating millions of dollars of economic impact, which we 671 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: definitely need here in the Hoosier heartland. 672 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: Yes, so I encourage our listeners to come downtown and. 673 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: Support your small businesses, support your small businesses, enjoy some 674 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: of the free festivities. 675 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: There's lots of things going on, and then you know 676 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: what Monday is Dingus de What is Dingus Day? So 677 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: Dingus Day, It's kind of like a Polish Saint Patrick's Day. 678 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: It is always it is always the Monday after Easter. 679 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: So what Marty were Polish? I'm not Polish. German is 680 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: my heritage. But I like a good party, okay, So 681 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: anything that involves beer and parogi's count me in. 682 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: So I love a good parogi. Actually just got introduced 683 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: to those a few years ago through my friends in Pennsylvania. 684 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: I guess parogi is very popular in Pennsylvania Dutch culture 685 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: as well, but pretty much any culture has some sort 686 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 2: of a filled dumpling. Yeah, that's really all it is. 687 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: So it's a vehicle for goodness dumplings. 688 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 8: It is. 689 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: So what what Marty Gras is on the front end 690 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: of lint, Dingas Day is on the back end. But 691 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: like up in Northern Indiana, South Bend, the Port, it 692 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: is a huge day, like it is a holiday where 693 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: the whole town takes the day off. The West Side 694 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: Democrat Club in South Bend they have a big party. 695 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: But that is the place for politicians of all parties 696 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: to show up and glad He and Laporte has like 697 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: they have buses that will circulate people throughout the town, 698 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: and they've got like a dozen different bars that have 699 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: live music going all day on Monday. I've always thought, 700 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: being a guy that's been in touch with bars, like 701 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: I want this to come down to Indianapolis, just because 702 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: it takes what is otherwise a throwaway turn day of 703 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: the week for business and it becomes a party. Yeah. 704 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 2: So Mondays, I mean, who likes Mondays? Nobody likes Mondays. 705 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,280 Speaker 2: That's why Jim Davis has made a fortune off of Garfield. 706 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: I hate Mondays. Right, So, if you're not going to 707 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: the NC Double Finals on Monday, I run the Greater 708 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: Lawrence Chamber. That is my normal job. I have about 709 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: Dingas Day celebrations in Lawrence. We are having a Dingas 710 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: Day celebration at the Fort ben Pub from four to seven. 711 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're gonna have pull of sausage and Progey's 712 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: and beer and I'll be there. 713 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: And for Benjamin Harrison pretty cool place. You've been out 714 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: the park, Yeah exactly. 715 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: So Yeah, so I think there's some other Dingas Day 716 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: celebrations around town. Actually for the Chamber, I got a 717 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: big week next week. I've got Dingus on Monday that 718 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: we're promoting. We got a sponsor, Creed Home Improvements sponsoring that, 719 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: and then I've got a Wednesday morning coffee and donuts, 720 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: and then Friday afternoon we are doing a Master's viewing party. 721 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: So the Masters starts this coming week. Best Golf. You're 722 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: looking at me, like, what's the Masters? So, but we're 723 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: doing something else. The green coat, the green jacket. So yeah, 724 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: so we're gonna be doing about that from Happy Gilmour. Yeah, 725 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: there you go. So we're doing a watch party a 726 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: Hillcrest Country Club and uh yeah, so come on out 727 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: and join the Chamber, Lawrence Chamber and have fun with us. 728 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: Brad Hard at work for promoting commerce there in the 729 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: greater Lawrence area. 730 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the show today. Thanks that I've 731 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed this immensely. 732 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: I will be back on Monday morning, and Indy Spanglish 733 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 2: Jerry Lopez will be joining us. 734 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, Ladies and gentlemen. Signing off on 735 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC 736 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 6: Do