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Speaker 2: Have you ever done, eddie, or have you heard of

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Speaker 1: But you've heard me mention it right the incline, I

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Speaker 2: So it's right outside of Colorado Springs Pike's Peak area,

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Speaker 2: and it is an incline that was formerly a railroad incline.

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Speaker 2: It's now wooden steps, and you basically climb up it.

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Speaker 2: sixty degree angle. It is really challenging. But they have

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Speaker 2: what's called a false summit. You get this a lot

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Speaker 2: of course, being you think when you're climbing it that

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Speaker 2: false summit of spring, is it not? Or of winter?

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Speaker 2: We're in the false This is the false spring to

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Speaker 2: an extent, so you feel like you've reached the summit,

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Speaker 1: Is that what we're calling ful spring. That's a good

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Speaker 2: It is a big week for our bet on or

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Speaker 2: question about it, but still plenty to be there. And

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Speaker 2: keep in mind, Eddie that what I said is zero remnant.

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Speaker 2: There cannot be any hint anywhere. But it is up

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Speaker 2: to fifty four today. Congratulations on mother nature finally dealing

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Speaker 2: When it's like this, you feel the urgency, you feel

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Speaker 2: you will, and let me explain what I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: last night in Assembly Hall, and it was very cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for it. I'm not here to papoo this

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Speaker 2: think has been a really good pro I think Dane

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Speaker 2: they are typically a very sound team. They are having

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Speaker 2: a disastrous year. But Indiana before the game and then

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Speaker 2: obviously at halftime, honoring the nineteen seventy six undefeated Hoosiers

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Speaker 2: From the time that I can remember watching basketball. I

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Speaker 2: of seventy six and the fact that it was so cool.

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Speaker 2: Wrong of Bob Knight, Jim Cruz, Bobby Wilkerson, Kent Benson,

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Speaker 2: And it is hard to believe that it's been fifty years.

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Speaker 2: But last night, after that game, and after that epic

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Speaker 2: the presumptive number one pick in the draft. But as

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Speaker 1: Do we have in this town? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: When I lived in Saint Louis, there was a part

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Speaker 2: it's hurt Indiana. Indiana last night celebrated and honored their

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Speaker 2: very cool. But they almost always celebrate and honor the

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Speaker 2: It's part of a seven person class. Lawrence Thunderbrook, Chris

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Speaker 2: It's consistent talk about the Mears, the Foights, the Uncers,

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Speaker 2: they do it because they went through like two years

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Speaker 2: this great group all wearing their blue jackets, and pay

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Speaker 2: no attention to that group behind the curtain. Is there

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Speaker 2: well and don't look now, but Indiana's starting to come

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Speaker 2: Is it possible, Eddie, let me ask you this, is

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Speaker 2: that I think about, Carl Landry. Carl Landry had really

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Speaker 2: And is it possible that with Indiana right now? We

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Speaker 2: don't talk about it, but Eddie, is it possible that

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Speaker 2: can flat out score, and Lamar Wilkerson can flat out score,

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Speaker 2: but he's six', six is he, Potentially, eddie AN nba rotational?

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Speaker 2: one more where he's just he's a guy that comes,

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Speaker 2: in gives you twelve to fifteen minutes of quality minutes

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Speaker 3: Years it's hard for me to say one way or Another,

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Speaker 3: Shots like everything's being funneled through him, Offensively like he's

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Speaker 1: Hits hi'm, like, okay that's.

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Speaker 3: Fine he's a lightning in a bottle, guy, Right, yeah

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Speaker 3: it's Like Carson, edwards like once he gets, going he's

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Speaker 3: Comparison AND i just don't know how well that'll, translate

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Speaker 3: THAT i just DON'T i don't know IF i fully

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Speaker 3: see it In Lamar wilkerson to the point where.

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Speaker 1: And he's got to be able to defend at THE nba, level, right.

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Speaker 1: Report you had to, stop and then you.

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Speaker 3: Get into college and then you get into THE nba

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Speaker 2: Piece, Right the reality is This aside from all of,

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Speaker 2: that this is an example With Lamar wilkerson where instead

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Speaker 2: of springing, forward we should simply live in the moment

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Speaker 2: we are seeing one of the most, prolific pure bucket

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Speaker 2: volume scorers That indiana's ever. Had they've had great scorers

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Speaker 2: and great shooters over The Jimmy rail, Obviously george McGinnis

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Speaker 2: somebody that scores a lot of. Points it's another to

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Speaker 2: Basketball Jay edwards was naturally born to score the. Basketball

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Speaker 2: Colbert cheney was naturally born to score the. Basketball shot, fake,

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Speaker 2: around dunk. Good Eric gordon was a natural scorer and

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Speaker 2: produce side of, Things Glenn robinson was a flat out.

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Speaker 2: that right. Now forty one last night For, wilkerson forty

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Speaker 2: four is the all Time Assembly hall, record he holds

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Speaker 2: that as. Well so it's a guy that knows how

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Speaker 2: to put the ball in the. Basket but what he

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Speaker 2: they started to get as we talked about With Don,

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Speaker 2: fisher the other pieces that are elevating, now whether you're

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Speaker 2: little bit or get back in some. Rhythm nick Dorn

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Speaker 2: AND i know That don had mentioned that he might

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Speaker 2: Yes oregon is not a great, team but good teams

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Speaker 2: find ways to resoundingly beat those that are, struggling And

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Speaker 2: indiana did that last night Against. Oregon Now purdue struggled Against.

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Speaker 2: Oregon And purdue found the medicine after a three game

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Speaker 2: but it's a big one, tonight a big one to

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Speaker 2: night with The and we're going to talk To Andy

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Speaker 2: Huskers he is out In. Omaha what's your Best? Omaha

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Speaker 2: any let me hear? It your Best Peyton manning? Omaha go?

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Speaker 3: Ahead why why are you putting me on the spot like.

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Speaker 3: THIS i didn't ask to. Participate that's what.

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Speaker 1: We do on this.

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Speaker 3: Program, well we we educate and.

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Speaker 2: Entertaining which syllable is that when you're doing A Peyton manning?

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Speaker 2: the last. Right it's probably the.

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Speaker 3: Middle, no it's, omah it's probably the, age it's the last.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, omaha is there like? That, yeah that's.

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Speaker 2: Better i've told you what Supposedly omaha means, right, no opposite.

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Speaker 3: Maybe so.

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Speaker 1: There's, apple, apple apple and.

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Speaker 2: Omaha those were the two things that he used to,

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Speaker 2: say AS i understand, it AND i could be. Wrong

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Speaker 2: ryan deem could correct, Me rick De molten could correct.

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Speaker 2: Me it perhaps is different year to, year but at one,

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Speaker 2: point apparently with each play that The colts would, call

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Speaker 2: It so if if they called An Edgrin james run

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Speaker 2: up to the line after they had called And Edgerrin

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Speaker 2: if he yelled out, omaha, omaha then everybody that heard

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Speaker 2: that New, okay we are actually running the flare pass,

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Speaker 2: Right we're going opposite of what was originally called.

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Speaker 1: Apple Apple apple.

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Speaker 2: Allegedly or apparently meant disregard Everything i'm about to. Say

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Speaker 2: Because i'm saying it just to throw out the. Defense

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Speaker 2: Know Rader, Raider raider blue scatt left and all of

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Speaker 2: that was complete. Junk and they knew it because they

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Speaker 2: heard him say, apple so they. Knew, okay tune out

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Speaker 2: Everything i'm about to. Say stick with the original call

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Speaker 1: Worth BUT i.

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Speaker 2: Digress Nebraska purdue, tonight and For, purdue it's this game

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Speaker 2: might be bigger For purdue Than, nebraska truth be, told

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Speaker 2: BECAUSE i Think purdue something's going on with that, team

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Speaker 2: AND i think their defense has lagged a. BIT i

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Speaker 1: Sync but what you need to see if you.

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Speaker 2: Are going to turn the corner, here if you're going

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Speaker 2: to turn the, corner if You're, purdue and spring forward

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Speaker 2: instead of living in the team that you've been in

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Speaker 2: you got to spring forward now and not let the

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Speaker 2: accomplishments of the past be your false. Summit and if

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Speaker 2: nebraska is. That nebraska is very, balanced And nebraska is very.

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Speaker 1: Basketball but that's where we.

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Speaker 2: Are and The Big ten is absolutely, loaded and Between

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Speaker 2: michigan And illinois And Michigan state And purdue and Now.

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Speaker 2: Nebraska and LIKE i, said don't look, now But indiana's

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Speaker 2: starting to show a little bit of competency. Here are

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Speaker 2: they an upper Echelon Big ten, team not to the

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Speaker 2: right and they're starting to play a little. Bit AND

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Speaker 2: i hope last night as, well even though it was

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Speaker 2: Considering this as a roster that is basically, makeshift and

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Speaker 2: later that you go into the year and it feels

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Speaker 2: Like indiana's doing exactly, that which then makes you feel

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Speaker 2: put together and just hope that everything banded together and

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Speaker 2: i think To Darren. Derez excuse, me but does that

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Speaker 2: mean it's going to be that way moving? Forward we'll,

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Speaker 2: see we. Shall but there is big news to discuss

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Speaker 2: with The. Pacers Ralph freefill join us on the program.

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Speaker 2: Today the latest we now know Officially Johnny furfey a

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Speaker 2: torn acl that news coming out yesterday from The, pacers

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Speaker 2: their newest. Member the newest member of The, Pacers, zubats

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Speaker 2: is dealing with and talking to and answering questions of the.

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Speaker 2: and we'll also hear From Rick carlisle about when we

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Speaker 2: might see that player on the floor For. Indiana all

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Speaker 2: that conversation next here on a beautiful spring Like Spring,

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Speaker 2: Forward Look Forward tuesday, Edition Queeing company on The. Fan

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Speaker 2: we're not out of the woods. HERE i, mean you realize, that.

431
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: Right SO i was looking at the forecast this morning

432
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was, like wait a, second this feels a

433
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: little too. WARM i went outside with the. DOGS i was,

434
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: like what is going on? Here?

435
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 4: Hi?

436
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: Today fifty five.

437
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: At forty is like, eighty.

438
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: That's, Right, HI a forty each of the next two

439
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: Days friday forty, Six saturday fifty, Two sunday fifty. Five

440
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: but there's apparently snow flurries at some Point. Sunday i'm

441
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: not sure what that's all. About fifty five next week

442
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: On monday fifty, Three tuesday fifty, Nine. Wednesday, yeah we'reb

443
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: seven Next. Tuesday, okay here's The. Thursday two, things.

444
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: If you get a late snowstorm around, sectionals there's always

445
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: flurries in the. Air you get that then and you're, like,

446
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: well who cares because we're out of the we're out

447
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: of the tunnel. Here, YEAH i can deal with some

448
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: snow in Late february When march is right on the,

449
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: horizon because you know that it's not going to stick around.

450
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 5: Long.

451
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: Okay in terms of our bet of when we are

452
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: going to have no remnant of any snow or ice

453
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: at all in the part within the confines of the

454
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: parking lot, here you need to hope For eddie rain On.

455
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Sunday that'll finish. It rain might finish it all off

456
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: if that's rain as opposed to. Snow but we'll. See

457
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: joining us now on The Java House peel And Poor guest,

458
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: line of course you read has worked With fieldhouse files

459
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: and covering The Indiana.

460
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Pacers Scott agnes joins.

461
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: Us. Scott we will begin right with, this and that

462
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: Is Johnny. Furfey now we are going to talk To

463
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: ralphreef coming up in about an hour and get a

464
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: better timeline on things as to When furfey might be

465
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: able to get back and get. Going but this is

466
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: somebody that to, me you might look at it and, say,

467
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: yeah he's their eleventh. Guy you never want to see

468
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: anybody get. Injured but this doesn't Hurt indiana too badly

469
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: except for that this was the golden opportunity to continue to,

470
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: develop to develop one of their key pieces in a development.

471
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: Year what is your overall assessment of The furfee injury

472
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: and what it means not just For furfee but For.

473
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 6: Indiana, yeah good, Afternoon. Jake first of, all just, like,

474
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 6: oh here we go. Again you thought they were starting

475
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 6: to get out of the woods with, injuries and here's

476
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 6: another player on the roster that is requiring to have.

477
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 6: Surgery and so, fortunately acl, injuries As ralph will tell,

478
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 6: you have become more mainstream and a lot easier to

479
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 6: recover and quicker. From but you're exactly right in terms

480
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 6: of the golden opportunity lost here For furfey over these

481
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 6: final twenty nine games or, so because he was going

482
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 6: to be in the starting, role he was going to

483
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 6: get real you, know significant minutes twenty plus minutes per,

484
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 6: game maybe more as they trickle, down some minutes THAT

485
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 6: i expect here in the forthcoming, games especially After All star,

486
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 6: break right with Aaron Ne, smith with Nim, hard With

487
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 6: siakam certainly in, particular probably McConnell maybe as well among that.

488
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: Bunch and so.

489
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 6: Here's an opportunity for a guy who's barely turned twenty,

490
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: one probably still growing by the, way at six foot eight.

491
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 6: Officially and, yeah now he's going to be, sidelined but

492
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 6: there's a lot he can be gained from that from,

493
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 6: There but there's nothing right now for a young guy

494
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 6: that beats on court activity there in THE.

495
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Nba how many i'd have to, Look, eddie do you

496
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: have the how many games have The pacers played so

497
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: far this? Year the exact number of games that they've

498
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: played so far this?

499
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 6: Year they're in game fifty three right, now they're on

500
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 6: fifty three. Three this will be fifty four.

501
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Tonight.

502
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Okay it always is surprising to me because you just

503
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: assume that the like The All star break would be

504
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: like the halfway but any, right, so so they have

505
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: twenty eight games, remaining is that?

506
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: Right?

507
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 6: Uh that's always the hard. Math BUT i always, SAY

508
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 6: i think it's twenty nine for. Tonight so twenty. Nine,

509
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: yes whether at fifty three or fifty, four they've played

510
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 6: fifty three, games they have twenty nine.

511
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: Left, Okay so in the twenty nine remaining, Games, scott

512
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: give me the player whose average minutes per game is

513
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: going to have the best the biggest differential in this

514
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: last twenty nine games versus let's say the first twenty

515
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: nine games of the. Year AND i don't mean dude

516
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: in so give me a player that has not played

517
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: a lot that all of a sudden now you think

518
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: that their workload is going to increase.

519
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: Significantly.

520
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 6: Oh Probably Ben shephard might be a Guy i'd take

521
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 6: on that challenge, there just because of how little he

522
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 6: played early on to do injury and in. Rotational but

523
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 6: you start pulling guards out, right starting With nemhard And Nis.

524
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 6: SMITH i hope both of those guys see their minutes

525
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 6: decrease and go above nowhere above thirty minutes per. GAME

526
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 6: i think he's he should go above twenty now per.

527
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Game yeah, See and that's. Why so the REASON i

528
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: ask it is, THIS i understand AND i respect that

529
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: The pacers are never going to say they're, tanking, okay

530
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: AND i understand and respect That Pascal, siakam for, example

531
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: who has been a true professional this, season deserves the

532
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: opportunity to win as many games as can be. Had,

533
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: however it is my belief that The pacers definitively do

534
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: have their eyes on getting one of the top four,

535
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: picks and so therefore there are ways that you can massage.

536
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: That so when you say That Nim hard And Nie

537
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: smith you think their minutes could be, Limited, scott is

538
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: that because you think they simply look at it and, say,

539
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: hey you know, what less mileage on the, Tires let's

540
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: just make sure that we're not putting ourselves at risk

541
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: of too thin for the. Future or is it cognitively

542
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: because they're, saying we're going to put combos out there

543
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: that are going to keep us in that mix for

544
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: the top four.

545
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 6: Picks, well it's certainly. BOTH i think it's. More the

546
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: first is let's not wear these guys. Down you got

547
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: to realize what they've come off of in last offseason

548
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 6: was not very long Late. June in, fact they arrived

549
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 6: back From Oklahoma. CITY i think it Was june twenty,

550
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 6: third which takes off two months of your, offseason And

551
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 6: tyreee And Andrew, nimhart for, example played with their national.

552
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 6: Team siakama a small part of. That and so these

553
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 6: guys have been through so much in the last couple of,

554
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 6: years three, years THAT i lean more towards the First

555
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 6: there's no reason and in this, Season jake that Nim

556
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 6: hart Or siakam needs to play thirty seven minutes like

557
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 6: we've seen in a couple recent, games for, Example SO

558
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 6: i think that's number. ONE i don't think they will

559
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 6: be as blatant as for, example The Utah. JAZZ i

560
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 6: think Last night market in and some of their stars

561
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 6: don't get in in the fourth, quarter and then their

562
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 6: Coach Will hardy did you think about he was asked,

563
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 6: postgame did you think about going back to he Goes,

564
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 6: NOPE i was. Not that's the blatant way to attack.

565
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 6: It AND i don't think that's the case with The.

566
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: Pacers when do you think we will see the newest

567
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: member of The pacers make their?

568
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 6: Debut, well we know That Kobe brown is with the

569
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 6: team up In New york for these pair of, games

570
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 6: SO i wouldn't be surprised for him to get in

571
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 6: during this stretch, PROBABLY i would guess more so tomorrow

572
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 6: the next, game second game of a back to. Back

573
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: what we have seen with This pacers team here in

574
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 6: the last month is that second game a lot more

575
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 6: guys sit for rest and injury. Management per is a

576
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 6: perfect opportunity after he has a game to watch and

577
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 6: see and learn from this coaching, staff for him to

578
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 6: get out. There in terms Of, ZUBATS i think it

579
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 6: was clear in the morning show today That Rick carlisle is, saying,

580
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: hey we're not going to see him for a. While

581
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 6: AND i think also this makes sense in twofold he

582
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 6: just became a dad less than a week. Ago you

583
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 6: needed to give him the physical you got All star.

584
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 6: BREAK i would send him more so from a family, standpoint,

585
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: seriously not related to. Basketball go back, home be with your,

586
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 6: family enjoy. That and then once he comes, BACK i

587
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 6: would hope in the first couple of weeks he would

588
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: first he would start getting some reps, here because that

589
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: would be three weeks off of. Basketball we don't know

590
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 6: the severity of this ankle injury, referenced but he's certainly

591
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 6: a guy that in his time in the, league and

592
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 6: this is one of the great things that appeals to

593
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 6: him and The pacers is his longevity and his reliability

594
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 6: on the.

595
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: Court you Referenced Rick carlile This Morning Fan Morning. Show of,

596
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: Course Rick carlile joining each week always appreciated over the

597
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: course of the, season and in, Fact scott will let

598
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: it well those that didn't hear it here From Rick carlile.

599
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 2: Himself this Is Rick carlisle this. Morning When Kevin bowen

600
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: asked that exact question about when we might See zoubots

601
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: in the, Lineup, no, no he's.

602
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: NOT i don't think he's gonna play for a. While

603
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: he's got a lingering ankle. Situation he was Injured december

604
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 4: twentieth or something like. This you, know initially it was

605
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 4: it was deemed to be a four to six week.

606
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: Injury but this is a guy that's played ninety five

607
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: percent of his game since he's been in THE, nba

608
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: and he pushed to come back. Early their team was,

609
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: struggling and so it's just there's just something in there.

610
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: Still there's there's some, discomfort there's some. Swelling you admire

611
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: the guy for slugging, through but at this point it

612
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: makes zero sense for him to be out on the

613
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: floor in AN nba game if he's not feeling as

614
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: close to one hundred percent as. Possible SO i don't

615
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 4: know the. Timetable he will not play in these two,

616
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: games and we'll see what's what when we come out

617
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: of the.

618
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: Break, Okay.

619
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: Scott what's interesting to me there IS i totally get

620
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: What Rick carlisle. Saying if there was one thing THAT

621
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: i would say could be the benefit Of zubats, playing

622
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: it is simply.

623
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: Getting.

624
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: FAMILIARITY i think so much Of it's kind of like

625
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 2: offensive line in THE. Nfl an offensive lineman in THE

626
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: nfl will tell you that oftentimes a big part of

627
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: their effectiveness or impact comes from the familiarity of the

628
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: guy and the movement and the tendencies of the guy

629
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: next to. Them AND i would like to see that

630
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: cohesiveness form this year Between zubots And. Siakam that's the

631
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: one area WHERE i could see benefit of him being

632
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: out there is the sharing of space on the blocks

633
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: between those two and Where siakam likes to move around

634
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: and take advantage In zubats getting used to those.

635
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Tendencies you agree with that.

636
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 6: Entirely, Yeah and more than, that you'd also get. Films

637
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: so in the, offseason When tyreese and others are reviewing

638
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 6: film and watching specifically on court minutes When zubots is out,

639
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 6: there then you add actually have something to go off

640
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 6: of within your offense With carlisle calling out plays and

641
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 6: all those sort of. Things i've changed one of my.

642
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 6: Things i've changed my, Tune, jake in the last. Decade here,

643
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 6: is you, know is the meaningless game? Thing because in,

644
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 6: reality there is always things you can get out of,

645
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 6: games whether it's that, continuity whether it's evaluating other guys

646
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 6: on the. Roster, yes it might be meaningless in the

647
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 6: grand scheme of, things BUT i think there is great

648
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 6: value to your point here of get him, out get

649
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 6: him him out there for a dozen games at, least

650
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 6: to build that rapport with one, another and so much

651
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 6: of it becomes instinctual as much as, anything especially within

652
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 6: the flow of the. Offense it's a little different obviously

653
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 6: With haliburton not being available and out, there but still

654
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 6: he's inserted into a starting group that has all continuity

655
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 6: except for, him and so he's the guy that's got

656
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 6: to catch up in a.

657
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: Hurry, Okay, Scott i'm going to ask everybody that we

658
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: have on today this. Question it is the first day

659
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: of the hint that we're out of the tunnel of

660
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: hibernation of the winter. Time NOW i understand this is

661
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: the false. SPRING i get all that, right BUT i

662
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: want to know this For Scott, agnes the first time

663
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: that you walk outside and you got spring in your

664
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: step because you're, like oh, man it's actually like nice.

665
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: OUT i want to know the song or the. Artists

666
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: we do this each and every. Year that is the

667
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: one that you put it. On you go ahead and

668
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: you put it on the stereo in the car and

669
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: you roll the windows down and you're, like let it

670
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: all soak, in baby spring is?

671
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Here what song or artist?

672
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 6: Interesting, well right, Now i'd go With Jordan. Davis that'd

673
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 6: be my go. TO i put in the AirPods and

674
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 6: walk around downtown and enjoy enjoy the. Sunshine Maybe i'll

675
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 6: do that this. AFTERNOON a particular song From Jordan. Davis,

676
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 6: uh there's. MANY i can go with any of, them

677
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: BUT u Bar nun's a good one right, Now.

678
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: Okay Barn, Nun Jordan, Davis Scott, Agnes, okay we'll get

679
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: that worked in.

680
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 6: Here another one a class by the, way at least for,

681
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 6: me would be writing roads would be another. One IF

682
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: i had the IF i was at Dustin, lynch IF

683
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: i had my windows down AND i was, cruising that

684
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 6: would be that would probably be that, one but probably

685
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: won't be driving, Today.

686
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: JAKE i don't know if you know The scott big country.

687
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: GUY i figured he was going with Some Taylor swift,

688
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: there but we worked him out of.

689
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: THAT i, guess, right is that phase over with him your? Life?

690
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 6: Scott, No, no never is. Over it's just a matter

691
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 6: of what the feel good mood is right. Now we're

692
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 6: entering country summer concerts.

693
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 7: Season.

694
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: Jake you know, What.

695
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: I'm not a country music fan by, nature but there

696
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: is no doubt about the fact that country music to

697
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: me feels like summer. Party that's your. Person no problem,

698
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: there all, Right, scott appreciate the time as. Always to

699
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: talk to you. Soon, absolutely thank. You Joe Scott AGNs

700
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: joining us From Fieldhouse. Files, eddie have you submitted? THIS

701
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: i have a number of these songs right that THAT

702
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: i go through and phase of. This but what should

703
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: we play one Of scott's coming?

704
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: Back?

705
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 3: No excuse, me, no, Okay i'm not ruining the mood

706
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: of the upbeat summertime songs with some country. Music i'm, sorry.

707
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Did we see last night.

708
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: The flare of a warning signal TO nba teams about

709
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: what they may be thinking about with their future as

710
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: they think about springing? Forward did we get a false

711
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: summit last? Night i'll explain. Next you, Know i'm an accommodating.

712
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: Guy SO i made the offer To, scott what would

713
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: your request?

714
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: Be not now?

715
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: Again not THAT i have issue with country, music you,

716
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: know a couple of years. Ago it's just not my

717
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: cup of. Tea, Yeah so you know the IndyCar races In,

718
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: iowa they brought in different performers and they Had Tim

719
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: grawl one, year and they Had Kenny, Chesney and so

720
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: we ended up going to The Kenny chesney concert just

721
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was, LIKE i Think Kenny chesney is kind

722
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: of the New Jimmy, buffett like the. Summertime i've mentioned that.

723
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 2: Before i'm not a country, guy but and his songs

724
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: are you, know twenty five years, OLD i. Realized but

725
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: it does have, upbeat you, know out on the lake

726
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: summer celebration. Feel i'll admit that song doesn't so much

727
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: for me that you just. Played but to each their

728
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: own right do you remember?

729
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: Yours? Jake what's?

730
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: That what's? Yours what's your barnun By Jordan davis of The?

731
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: Summertime, MAN i mean the FIRST i always say that

732
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: the song that reminds me of spring used to be

733
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: Free falling or Running down A dream By, petty just

734
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i, remember like the first time really listening to.

735
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Those it was that kind of a, day or you, know.

736
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Outside what's the Story Morning? Glory probably of late Because

737
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: i've gotten obviously back in the oasis and that's you,

738
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: know walking down the streets to my favorite, tune he,

739
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: Says so therefore it's.

740
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: Fitting what would yours?

741
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 8: Be?

742
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 5: Eddy?

743
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: Oh, MAN i don't. Know i'm really dull BY.

744
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: Nwa that's way up on the. List but we can't

745
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: play that on, here, right you, KNOW i don't drink

746
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Brass monkey like to beat funky Nickname EASY eo eight ball.

747
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Junkie Malcolm brogden was a really good, pacer good, player

748
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: and there was a lot made out Of Malcolm brogden

749
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: when he was acquired by The. Pacers And Malcolm brogden

750
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: is a very bright guy when he was. Here none

751
00:41:53,560 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: of this was ever, outwardly you, know like cantankerous if you.

752
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: Will But Malcolm brogden missed a lot of. Games and

753
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: part of why he missed a lot of games is,

754
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: because it's my, understanding he was a very astute business

755
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: mind that considered and thought of his body as essentially

756
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: his that was his, merchandise and he wanted to protect

757
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: at all costs.

758
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: His.

759
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: Body so any sort of injury he, had or, ailment

760
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: or ache or pain that he thought could precipitate further,

761
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: injury he would request to sit out. Games doesn't make

762
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: him a bad, guy doesn't make him a bad, player

763
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: doesn't even make him a bad. Teammate makes him very

764
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: conscientious of. That but at, times especially towards the end

765
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: of his time In, indiana it became a bit much

766
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: because it was, like oh my, gosh seemingly every time

767
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: you turned, around he was, unavailable and there were games

768
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: where you needed your starting point. Guard, therefore MAYBE i

769
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: have A ptsd WHEN i think about players that seemingly

770
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: miss key moments at key.

771
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Times And.

772
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm obviously not Covering kansas. BASKETBALL i went To, kansas

773
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: BUT i Don't AND i went to a game In,

774
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: LAWRENCE i think two seasons. Ago But i'm not some

775
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: big guy when it comes to ku and following. It

776
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: But i'm aware Of Darren peterson because many believe that

777
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: he is the most talented player in college basketball and

778
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: the presumptive number one Pick boozer is way up. There

779
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: is it De bonsa Or, debansadbansa de bands at? Byu

780
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: WHO i Would that's WHO i would go. With, personally

781
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: if you have the number one, pick that's who you'd go. With,

782
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: Yes Caleb Wilson, also.

783
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: Now are you saying that from the PACER's perspective or

784
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: just if you were any franchise.

785
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: The PACER's, Perspective Although wilson is very intriguing because he

786
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: may have the most overall, upside But, peterson by all

787
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: account is a guy that you, know everybody's, like, look

788
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: this is the most talented player in college. Basketball but

789
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: there are already red flags. Here last, night missing a

790
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: game at home against the number one unbeaten team in

791
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: the country is understandable if in fact you are.

792
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: Ill and what do they say that he was? Ill he.

793
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: You, know he went out and he went through warm

794
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: ups and then was out of the game because he.

795
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 3: Was ill and sat on the bench the entire.

796
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: Game there is precedent of. PLAYERS i, mean it became

797
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: a euphemism for a while there to have the. Hurleyes

798
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: are you familiar with the term having the? Hurleyes eddy

799
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: new having the hurleyes was because there was a SITUATION

800
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: i think it was in The final four When Bobby

801
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: hurley suddenly kind of penguin walked it out of the

802
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: arena and you found out that he's tummy was a little,

803
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: unsettled if you. Will Joe paturno had the hurleyes once

804
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: in a, game ran, off ran off the field and they're, like,

805
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: Oh Joe turno's leaving the locker room, early and you

806
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: found out, later you, know had some food that didn't settle.

807
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: Well and In.

808
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: Peterson's, case it's entirely possible that he had a stomach

809
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: virus or an ill and if he truly was, sick you,

810
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: know my, apologies, Right but there's already precedent, though of

811
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: other influence, saying, look he's not going to play in

812
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: the second half of this, game or he's not going

813
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: to play extended.

814
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Minutes and if you look at his minutes.

815
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Twenty eight minutes Against North, carolina twenty three minutes Against,

816
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: missouri a huge, rival by the, way twenty three minutes Against,

817
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: baylor twenty minutes AGAINST, byu are there minute restrictions being

818
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: placed because his agent is influencing the Way kansas uses

819
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: him in. ROTATION i don't know that for a, fact

820
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: but there appears to be that look of it and

821
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: that chatter that's out, there AND i totally understand this

822
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: is the problem we're going to run into. Now if

823
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: you are forcing players to go to college for one

824
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: year to play just to keep themselves fresh in audition

825
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: for THE, nba if it's already determined that they're the

826
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: number one pick in the, DRAFT i understand why players

827
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: Like i'm not risking my ankles for Beating, baylor or

828
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: my hamstrings are, Tight i'm not going to risk going

829
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: out there and getting a significant injury to make sure

830
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 2: that we knock off the Vaunted Texas. Longhorns and how

831
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: far away are we now from eventually players treating THE

832
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: ncaa tournament DARE i say it like they treat a bowl.

833
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: Game and we got, In we're a nine, seed we

834
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: got the nine to eight. Game but you know, what

835
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: it's in my best interest to go ahead and sit this.

836
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: Out and start prepping for the pre draft. Workouts that's

837
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: the reality of, it AND i understand why players might

838
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: have that. Mentality but IF i am a team that

839
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: is selecting within the top four OR i have those

840
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: other three. Options other, Years Darren, peterson it might have

841
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: been the slam. Dunk but considering there are other players

842
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: that might be ninety percent the talent but thus far

843
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: shows zero percent the side attraction that comes with, IT

844
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: i would go that route because habits. Form, yes it

845
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: is entirely, possible and you could very easily, say but

846
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: once he gets to THE nba and he's already secured

847
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: that and the money's coming, in then that part is

848
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: done and so now it's all, in all chips in.

849
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: Fine but habits form at a certain period that then

850
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: become very hard to. Overcome and the earlier and the

851
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: sooner that you learn to do things and go about

852
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: things in a certain, fashion the better off you're going to.

853
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: Be AND i would rather have somebody who's been doing

854
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: that for a year now as opposed to one that's

855
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: waiting for the time to be told that it's about

856
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: doing things. Scrupulously i'm not SAYING i blame, Him i'm

857
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: not saying he's. Wrong i'm not saying it's not partially the,

858
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: system but there are other players that appear to be

859
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: nearly as talented that to this. Point don't come with

860
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 2: it with a, caveat that's. All and did you say

861
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 2: we have a late programming change to the program?

862
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: Here, Indeed, jake the key headliner at the trade, deadline

863
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: will be joining us here in ten.

864
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: Minutes nice if it's A, zubats the newest pacer will

865
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: be joining, us he said ten minutes from right.

866
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: Now he'll be joining us four ten. MINUTES i don't

867
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: know when that'll. Be it could be within, five four ten.

868
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: Minutes, Yeah So Ralph free scheduled to join us bottom

869
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: of the.

870
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Show do you Think Ralph free will be offended If

871
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: matt damon him.

872
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: Bottom of the? Show bottom of the? Hour, sorry there we,

873
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: GO i don't think. So, well it's also the bottom

874
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: of the, show truth be. Told if the show is

875
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: from twelve to one, thirty that means all the way

876
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: to the bottom then back up. Again, right so at

877
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: the bottom of the, show a boutom the, hour whichever

878
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 3: you'd like to look at. It eddie is feverishly working

879
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: on his phone right, now by the, Way i'd like

880
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: to give a little shout out IF i, May CAN

881
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: i give a little shout? Out eddie AM i are

882
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: you permitting me to do a little shout? Out it's your.

883
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: Show we had a meeting the other.

884
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: Day we had a meeting and they said that research

885
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: has shown that at the top of each, hour we

886
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: need to get to the meat of the, matter you,

887
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: know get right to the bullet points of the. Day

888
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: like we should be talking about the fact That Lamar

889
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: wilkerson last night had forty one For indiana and they

890
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: had a number of scores and double figures and that

891
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: allowed them to hold Off oregon After oregon was much

892
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: more competitive With. Purdue and speaking Of, purdue we should

893
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: be talking about the fact That purdue is going to

894
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: be taking On nebraska tonight and The huskers are really,

895
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: good ranked inside of the top ten veteran. Team and

896
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: you Know nebraska interestingly, enough you, know they won At,

897
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: illinois then they lose at home To, illinois but there

898
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: are they don't have any losses that are in any,

899
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: way shape or form. Unforgivable So Fred hoiberg's got a

900
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: very good. Group we shoud probably be talking about. THAT

901
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: i could be talking about the fact that The, pacers

902
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: as we had, discussed you, know we see what happens

903
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: with them tonight as they're taking on The knicks In

904
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: New york seven thirty pregame seven o'clock on this. Show

905
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: that's something that probably is topical that we should get

906
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: to in this meat when you got to talk about the,

907
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: meat like what's important or the fact that the seventy

908
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: six and he had a team was honored last night

909
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: At Assembly. HALL i get the significance of, that and

910
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: people love that kind of a. Thing Zire franklin And

911
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: jeff t got into a. Spat we could get into

912
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 2: that that was on a, podcast AND i don't know what's.

913
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: Going on within that whole.

914
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: Deal But Zire, franklin who's a really good, dude AND

915
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: i like him and nice and he's a part of the.

916
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: Company we know, that but at the same, time probably

917
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: needs to start getting off, podcasts like every time that

918
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: we turn, around he's saying something and people are getting

919
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 2: upset with, him or you, know we could get, into

920
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: like we just, did the fact that the a player

921
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: that might be on The pacers radar to draft is

922
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: sitting out a key game where the number one team

923
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: in the country who's undefeated goes Into Allen Field house and,

924
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 2: loses meaning that Now miami Of ohio is the last

925
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 2: unbeaten and the only team that stands between the seventy

926
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: Six hoosiers and being the most recent historically to go.

927
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 2: UNDEFEATED i, mean so there are a lot of things

928
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: that we could be, discussing BUT i did want to

929
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: give a shout out last, Night. Eddie you have the

930
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: keyless entry on your, car right doesn't everybody have that by?

931
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: Now pretty? Much, Okay so.

932
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: Last Night i'm At shannon's house AND i had to

933
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: go pick up her brother came into. Town her brother

934
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: From denver flies into, town AND i. VOLUNTEERED i, said,

935
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: Well i'll go pick him up at the.

936
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: Airport.

937
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: Okay so we're sitting there And i'm mod an the

938
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: flight AND i see, that, oh, look the flight's like

939
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Early, WELL i GUESS i better, leave because you,

940
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: Know I'M i was a cub, scout SO i like

941
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: to be. Prepared SO i go out to the car

942
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: And i'm, like where are my? Key and my car's

943
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: locked and it's not automatically. Unlocking WHEN i put my

944
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: hand through the. Handle long story, SHORT i have no

945
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: idea how this, happened but my keys got locked inside

946
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: of my, car which shouldn't happen because the key fob

947
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: usually prohibits that from. Happening number, ONE i have no

948
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: idea HOW i locked the car AS i was shutting the.

949
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Door and number, TWO i have no idea how the

950
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: keys allowed that to, happen except FOR i then realized

951
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: the keyfob the battery is. Dead So i'm, LIKE i

952
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: just HAD i need to go home now and get

953
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: my backup keys then come.

954
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Back BUT i got to get to the.

955
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: Airport now my car is parked Behind shannon's car in the,

956
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: driveway so she's got TO i got to take her,

957
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: Car so she's got to drive over the mountain bank

958
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: that stands on the side of the, car and we

959
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: almost risk topping the car over and damaging. It and quite,

960
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: FRANKLY i was more worried about getting my keyfob THAN

961
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: i was damaging her. Car so THEN i realized that

962
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: my backup key thing hasn't been programmed yet for my,

963
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 2: car and it doesn't have an actual manual key because

964
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: it was a. Replacement SO i have no way to

965
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: get into my. Car SO i went and picked Up

966
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: ryan at the airport And shannon's car brought him, back

967
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: dropped him, off then went back To shannon's house AND

968
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: i had to Call TRIPLE a And TRIPLE a was

969
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 2: there in fifteen. Minutes fifteen. Minutes, now of course you

970
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: know About TRIPLE a and the fact that they do

971
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: vacation planning and they've got to you, know you can

972
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: go out and hear from different travel, agents But TRIPLE

973
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: a is worth. It that's one of those things that

974
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: is not expensive at all and it's worth its weight in.

975
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 2: Gold and that situation because this guy came out fifteen

976
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: minutes AFTER i Called TRIPLE, a had the little, thing

977
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: puts the little thing on the, side pulls the window

978
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: out just, enough little thing go, in the Little jimmy goes,

979
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: in opens it. Up now the alarm went off to

980
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: set up the whole. Neighborhood but that's. OKAY i was

981
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: worried about. Me So i'd like to Thank TRIPLE a

982
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 2: for helping out and assisting in that. Regard and if

983
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: you are not A TRIPLE a, Member i'm telling, you

984
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: in that, situation you think to yourself it could be

985
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: three times the cost of WHAT i just, paid and

986
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: it's worth it just for the convenience and the peace

987
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: of mind and that so thank you To TRIPLE a

988
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: yesterday for it helping out with That indiana last night

989
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: At Assembly hall With Oregon. Eddie there is part of

990
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: me that feels Like indiana's tournament hopes AND i don't

991
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: look it would be naive to think That indiana is

992
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: a final four team or even a deep run. Team

993
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 2: but Can indiana, say win a couple of tournament. GAMES

994
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 2: i there was a, time and it wasn't long ago

995
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: that we were sitting here talking about and wondering about

996
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 2: whether or Not indiana was even getting it into the.

997
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: Tournament AND i think now we can say that so

998
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: long as they stay in the center lane, HERE i

999
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: think they're a tournament. Team and it's because and it

1000
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: really is impressive what they have done when you consider

1001
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: That Darren dvrees has a roster AND i Know i've

1002
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: said this a million, times but, Literally Darren devrees took

1003
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: The indiana. Job and when he took The indiana, job

1004
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: you have a shot AT Tj. MAX i, have, yes

1005
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: when you go TO Tj max and you're waiting to

1006
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: check out and there's all the stuff lined up there

1007
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: along the cash, register and you always end up getting

1008
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 2: some sort of a last minute impulse buy because you're,

1009
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: like oh my, gosh a bag of The Garadelli Met chocolate.

1010
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: Candies those are, awesome and you realize that they're six

1011
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: months from the expiration, date and if you were to

1012
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: buy them at a candy, store a confectionery, store you

1013
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: get a two year, window and that's why they're available

1014
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: at a much discounted. Price but you're, like, hey you know,

1015
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: What i'll take. It and so you just get this

1016
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: mixed match of different, things this mismatch of different, things

1017
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: some of which are relatively new but they're just not

1018
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: the best of, brand some of which are great, brands

1019
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: and the expiration date is coming up on, them whatever

1020
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: it might. Be but you're just throwing this hodgepodge into your.

1021
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: Cart and that's kind of What darren De brees had

1022
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: to do in assembling this. Roster you, Know Lamar wilkerson

1023
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: is he's one of Those garrettella. Chocolates it's, like it's,

1024
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: great The met chocolate is is it? Perfect everything about

1025
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: this is, Great but the expiration dates, there and the

1026
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: expiration date was past what it could be in his old.

1027
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: Place so you get.

1028
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: That then you get a couple of other players that

1029
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: are you, know maybe they're they're good, players but they're

1030
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: not of household brand. Name but they look. Nice and

1031
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: this is a roster That darren De, brees who we

1032
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: don't a lot. About WHAT i know About davraes is

1033
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: This his, practices AS i understand, it are very. EFFICIENT

1034
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: i don't think that he's a you, Know Tom crean

1035
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: did a really good job In indiana and has done

1036
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: a really good job for this radio station in the

1037
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: times that we've asked him to come. On he's really

1038
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 2: been a good guest AND i think is a good

1039
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: guy and a good basketball. Coach BUT i think one

1040
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: of the, things If crean And crean himself might tell you,

1041
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: this one of the AREAS i think For Tom crean

1042
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: that was i'll say weakness for lack of a better

1043
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: phrase or.

1044
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: Term but.

1045
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: Going back To Bob knight and what's the theme of today's,

1046
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: show dwelling too much on the past and sacrificing the

1047
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: present because of talking about the, past but it does

1048
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: give you precedent and it does give you viewpoint by

1049
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: which to. Look and if you go back and you

1050
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: look At Bob knight's when he was At indiana and

1051
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: the way that he ran. Things you, know former players

1052
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: have told me that when they got To indiana When

1053
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: knight was, there that the veteran players would say to, them,

1054
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: hey just so you, know as we get later in the,

1055
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: year it becomes very obvious when coach is going to

1056
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: kick us. Out and it's not because he really is

1057
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: that upset with. Us maybe it's because he's got a

1058
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: fishing or a golf tea time to get to but

1059
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: more so it's Because Bob knight knew when to to

1060
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: start to preserve his, players but he didn't want them

1061
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: to feel like they could lighten their. Approach so he would,

1062
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: say twenty minutes into a, practice, everybody just get out

1063
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: of here and, run you, Know and he would do

1064
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: it in a head game, way but what he was

1065
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: doing was still physically saving them while also motivating. Them

1066
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: AND i think a lot of, coaches when you look at,

1067
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: it you understand that as the year goes, on they

1068
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: have an understanding and a feel for the way that

1069
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: their team is to start to reel back a little,

1070
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: bit like when you're flying on an airplane and you

1071
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: can kind of hear where the plane like all of

1072
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: a sudden just like turns off the, jets and you're, like,

1073
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: oh we are just you, know we're about to descend

1074
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: because you can tell that we're like coasting, now not,

1075
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: literally but you get What i'm. Saying AND i Think

1076
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: DeVries has done a nice job with this, team AS

1077
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: i understand, it of maintaining and preserving that by having

1078
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: practices be efficient and not do WHAT i Think Tom,

1079
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: crean did you know having a three hour practice the

1080
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: night Before indiana had to go out and Play syracuse

1081
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: in a tournament. Game and you watch that game And Victor,

1082
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: oladipo who is as good an athlete and as in

1083
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: shape a guy As indiana has ever, had is like

1084
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: literally leaning down tugging on his shorts for the better

1085
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: part of that. Game In indiana right now feels like

1086
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: they are starting to peak a little, bit and they

1087
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: look pretty, fresh AND i think they're going to go

1088
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: as far As wilkerson can take them of being That

1089
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: Carson edwards esque lightning in a bottle rhythm. Shooter volume

1090
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 2: score a guy he gets a. Game when they go

1091
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: in the tournament and they're in the nine to eight

1092
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: game and they're going against you, know i'd have to

1093
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: look at who's like a potential eight seed from a

1094
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: bigger conference. Elsewhere but they're going into a game like,

1095
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: that they're taking On Santa clara in a nine to eight,

1096
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: game and he gets that rhythm going and suddenly it's

1097
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: dropping for him and before you know, it, bubaboom here you.

1098
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: Are you're right on the cusp of you get one

1099
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: went away from a sweet sixteen and volume shooters can

1100
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: do that for. You and they now are getting complimentary

1101
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: pieces around, him which is good news For. Indiana AND

1102
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: i think you got to Give Darren debries a ton of,

1103
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: credit a ton of credit for being a to go

1104
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: with that and get them playing right now literally as

1105
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: they're getting to know each other as The hodgepodge group

1106
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: from THE Tj.

1107
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Max, line and we'll see.

1108
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: What it means and we'll get into The Purdue nebraska

1109
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: matchup coming up just a little. Bit Andy kenny going

1110
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 2: to join us From, omaha but joining us now on

1111
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: The Java House peel And Poor guest. Line he is

1112
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: the newest member of The Indiana pacers of, course coming

1113
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 2: as part of the trade deadline move of Seeing Isaiah

1114
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: jackson And Benna Nict matheren going To Los, angeles And

1115
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: Avita zubats is now a member of The Indiana pacers

1116
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 2: and has now gotten to know The indiana media just

1117
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: a little. Bit and it's looking around at the snow

1118
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: in the ground and thinking to, himself this Ain't Santa Monica.

1119
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: Pier but he joins us now in the. Program let

1120
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: me be the first to, say welcome To. Indianapolis thank,

1121
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: you thank. You let's go back TO i guess the

1122
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: news of this because And Rick carlisle talked about this earlier,

1123
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 2: today and that is the fact that you you were

1124
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: playing through some. INJURY i think it was ankle that

1125
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: happened to you late In, december because you wanted to

1126
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: get things going for The clippers back on the right,

1127
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: track and you did that and kudos for. That but

1128
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: at the same, time were you aware or did The

1129
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: clippers make it known to you that you were a

1130
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: potential trade deadline guy that could be.

1131
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 7: Moved, yeah, YEAH i played the injury, HAPPENED i came

1132
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 7: back little. EARLIER i wanted to you, KNOW i wanted

1133
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 7: To we didn't start off the season, right SO i

1134
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 7: wanted to help the team and come back and we

1135
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 7: kind of started turning things. Around but, yeah the day before,

1136
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 7: DEADLINE i they they they let me. Know they told

1137
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 7: me there was a there was a chance that there

1138
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 7: there's a team that that's been very ogpressive that wanted,

1139
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 7: me and there's a chance there's some, discussions and SO

1140
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 7: i was kind And i'm ready for.

1141
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: It were you what was your thought when you knew

1142
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: it Was?

1143
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 7: Indiana, uh was just like a lot of stuff going,

1144
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 7: On BUT i was just thinking about basketball. FIT i

1145
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 7: was thinking about you guys went to the team went

1146
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 7: to the finals last. Year it was one half away

1147
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 7: from winning a. CHAMPIONSHIP i know from before that it's

1148
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 7: a big basketball state that people love basketball In, indiana

1149
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 7: AND i thought that this team needs a center like,

1150
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 7: me AND i need a team like. This so the

1151
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 7: first iought was it's going to be a great basketball

1152
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 7: fit and That i'm very.

1153
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 5: Excited you.

1154
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: Know the other great thing about it is and by the,

1155
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: way AND i mean this with the all due, respect,

1156
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: okay BUT i want to make sure that BECAUSE i

1157
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: have heard it in various ways in terms of the

1158
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: pronunciation of your, name AND i don't mean to be

1159
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: IF i hope that's not offensive to You WHEN i,

1160
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: ASK i want to make sure That i'm saying it.

1161
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: Correctly Avitza. Zubats DID i say that? Correctly?

1162
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: Iviza Iviza Iviza? Zubats is that?

1163
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah?

1164
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: Okay so.

1165
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: With that one of the advantages here for, you at

1166
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 2: least we feel this, Way, iviza and that is That

1167
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 2: indiana is a great place to raise a. Family that's

1168
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: what you always Hear midwest, values great place to raise a.

1169
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 2: Family and it turns out the day that you found

1170
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: out that in fact you're going to be A, hoosier

1171
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: you became a. Father SO i and congratulations on, that

1172
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: a baby, girl If i'm not mistaken, Correct, yes you're? Right,

1173
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 2: Okay so what is the game plan in terms of

1174
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: time frame of the understandable nature of wanting to be

1175
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: with your family in that regard and soak in and

1176
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: enjoy that moment and then working your way back in

1177
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: with the. Team has there been any discussion on when

1178
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: we might see you actually on the.

1179
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 7: FLOOR i think you, know we're trying to get this

1180
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 7: ankle very. First that's that's the number one. Priority But

1181
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 7: i'll be going TO la for The All star, break

1182
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 7: spend some time with with a family with a baby,

1183
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 7: girl and Then i'll come back To indiana like all

1184
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 7: the guys, will and, uh we'll go from. There we'll,

1185
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 7: see we'll see how the ankle. Is we'll work on,

1186
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 7: it we'll treat, it we'll get it. Right and as

1187
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 7: soon AS i fill hundred, percent as soon as the

1188
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 7: phil is, Right i'll be out.

1189
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: There what is your level OF i guess familiarity other

1190
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: than obviously you, know having a thirty. REBOUND i think

1191
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 2: it game was Against indiana here in the Field house

1192
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: in twenty.

1193
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: Nine, Okay i'll give you one. More how about. That

1194
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: we'll go with.

1195
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 9: Thirty.

1196
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: RIGHT i APPRECIATE i appreciate the precision, there but twenty.

1197
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: Nine but this roster in particular and its style of,

1198
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: Play how familiar are you With?

1199
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 7: Indiana JUST i watched a lot of playoff games last

1200
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 7: year and justling going against this thing and playing against.

1201
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 7: THEM i know they pushed the pace a, lot they

1202
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 7: play really, fast they move the ball a.

1203
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 5: Lot they look for the open.

1204
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 7: Man, uh it doesn't matter who it. Is they're always

1205
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 7: looking for the best shot. Available and just just know the.

1206
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 7: Team this team never, quits had a lot of great

1207
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 7: comebacks in the last year's, playoffs even AGAINST us in

1208
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 7: uh In. La last year we went, out had a

1209
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 7: big LEAD uh early and this scene, fought fought and

1210
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 7: got back in the game and BEAT. Us SO i

1211
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,479
Speaker 7: know this team never, quits plays fast and.

1212
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: Fights. Hard are you comfortable playing? Fast?

1213
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 5: WELL i will be, like, RIGHT i have to.

1214
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: BE.

1215
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 7: I i don't mind playing fast. Paced that's not necessarily

1216
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 7: what What i've been doing with my, team my past

1217
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 7: team has been doing late last few.

1218
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: Years But i'll.

1219
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 7: Adjust i'll use this time until the end of the

1220
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 7: season this summer to adjust to the pace AND uh

1221
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 7: to work on my conditioning and, Uh i'll be more than.

1222
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: Ready have you been given indication From indiana as to

1223
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: how they may want you to play or show things

1224
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: that you happen? Before in other, words are The pacers

1225
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 2: planning on The aviza zubats that we saw In Los

1226
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: angeles being exactly the plugging guy or do you think

1227
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: there's plan on getting you to extend out a little

1228
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: bit and draw out of defense to Give siaka more

1229
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: area on the. Block how much discussion has been taking place.

1230
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 7: There, WELL i think the biggest priority is going to

1231
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 7: be just doing WHAT i, do kind of just making

1232
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 7: my present felt and a paint some both as of the,

1233
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 7: floor rebounding the, ball setting goods screens for the other,

1234
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 7: guys communicating on, defense protecting the, brim punishing the mismatches

1235
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 7: on the offensive. End and then we, said well we'll

1236
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 7: explore with my you, know we'll, see we'll see how

1237
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 7: the shot. Looks they want to see how it. Looks, uh, practices, Workouts.

1238
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 5: We're going to.

1239
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 7: See, uh they're going to be the, judge and uh

1240
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 7: that's up the. Coaches if that's something THAT i felt

1241
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 7: LIKE i always, had But i've never had many opportunities

1242
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 7: to do. It, uh but that's it's all up to.

1243
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 7: Coaches if that's something there they want me to add

1244
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 7: to my, game and uh that's going to help the.

1245
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 7: Team I'm i'm definitely open open to. It And UH

1246
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 7: i worked really hard this summer to uh to extend

1247
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 7: that range and uh bring that to the team next.

1248
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 2: Year which player on The pacers roster are you most

1249
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: excited to have now as a.

1250
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 7: Teammate, WELL i think that's a big definitely Tyrese, uh

1251
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 7: big point guards they always. Have they always have a

1252
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 7: special special. Relationship. Uh we got to look out for

1253
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 7: each other on the court and, uh just him being

1254
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 7: one of the best point guards in the, League uh

1255
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 7: being a past first, guy involving all the. TEAMMATES i

1256
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 7: think it's going to. Be it's going to. Be, uh

1257
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 7: there's going to be a great chemistry between, us And

1258
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 7: i'm looking really looking forward for him and getting back

1259
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 7: how they're healthy and us playing.

1260
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: Together he beats The, zubats is our.

1261
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: Guest he's on The Joba House peel and poor guest

1262
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: line newest center of The Indiana. Pacers that game that

1263
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: you mentioned where you had twenty nine, Rebounds Lloyd, pierce

1264
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: the assistant coach For, indiana kept TELLING tj, McConnell drive

1265
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: at the, guy drive at the, guy get him to foul,

1266
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 2: out and eventually you. Did now McConnell, said he owes

1267
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: you a bottle of wine for. That has he delivered, YET.

1268
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 7: U he's delivering. Today, yeah we talked about. It he

1269
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 7: says he got something for, me AND i think he's delivering.

1270
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: Today, well here's the here's the important. THING i hope

1271
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: that you're able to enjoy a glass of. Wine while

1272
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: also looking over the fact that you've got a young.

1273
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: Family you're in a great place for it here in Central.

1274
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: Indiana our weather is Not Los. Angeles i'm not gonna

1275
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: lie by, That, iviza BUT i know people here are

1276
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: very happy to have you here and very excited for,

1277
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: it and we certainly wish you the. Best look forward

1278
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: to having me back on the. Program but welcome To.

1279
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: Indianapolis it's a great city AND i think bright things

1280
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 2: ahead for. You BUT i certainly wish you the best

1281
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 2: in terms of getting back out on the floor and

1282
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: then seeing you out.

1283
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 7: There thank, YOU i appreciate the war and welcome and

1284
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 7: see you out.

1285
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 5: There all?

1286
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 2: Right sounds good again joining Us Jaba House peelaport guest.

1287
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: Line that is the newest member of The Indiana. Pacers

1288
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: on a very busy day for him with media. Obligations

1289
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: so thanks for working that in For Iviza.

1290
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Zubats the newest member of The.

1291
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: Pacers one of the things THAT i most liked hearing

1292
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: there was when asking what his role would be and

1293
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 2: hearing him say, rebounding setting. Screens you know what you

1294
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 2: didn't hear was, score, score. Score this team has plenty

1295
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 2: of scores and he can score, it don't get me,

1296
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: Wrong but when he, says you, know there are elements

1297
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 2: THAT i can bring to the table that maybe my

1298
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 2: game wasn't In Los. Angeles we didn't see it just.

1299
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: Yet can he be a mid range? Shooter can he

1300
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: draw out a little bit away From? SIAKAM i don't

1301
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: think that's what is originally going to be the, Design

1302
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: but the hearing, there you could kind of tell it

1303
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: just that did not sound like a me first. Guy

1304
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: and that's that's you're going off of a five or

1305
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 2: ten Minute But i've done this a long. TIME i

1306
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: talked to a lot of. Athletes you can kind of

1307
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: tell when a guy's, like you know, WHAT i just

1308
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: want to do whatever's. Guys everybody says. That everybody, says,

1309
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: Oh i'm just here to help the. Team but sometimes

1310
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 2: you can just kind of tell based on an answer.

1311
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: There and when.

1312
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: He talked about what his role, was and it was

1313
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 2: all of the dirty work. Stuff and that's what they, need,

1314
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: right the dirty work. STUFF i like. IT i like

1315
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: it and interesting to hear when he talked about the.

1316
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: Ankle that's the other luxury here is they have the

1317
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: luxury now of time of letting him rest and letting

1318
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 2: that ankle get. Healthy, Now eddie one more time before

1319
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 2: we bring In, RALPH i want to bring up and play.

1320
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 2: Again What Rick carlile said this. Morning you heard There

1321
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: zubats talking about the ankle injury and the fact that

1322
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: he had heard it In. December this, Morning Rick carlile

1323
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: joined the guys on The Fan Morning, show And Kevin

1324
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: bowen asked the question almost specifically of you, know when

1325
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: will we see him out there essentially and how soon

1326
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: will it be that he's on the floor working through

1327
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: those things we were just talking.

1328
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: About this Is Rick carlile this.

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01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 4: Morning, No, no he's A i don't think he's going

1330
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: to play for a. While he's got a lingering ankle.

1331
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 4: Situation he was Injured december twentieth or something like. This you,

1332
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 4: know initially it was it was deemed to be a

1333
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 4: four to six week. Injury but this a guy that's

1334
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 4: played ninety five percent of his game since he's been

1335
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 4: in THE, nba and he pushed to come back. Earlier

1336
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 4: their team was, struggling and so it's just there's just

1337
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 4: something in. There there's some, discomfort there's some. Swelling you

1338
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 4: admire the guy for slugging. Through but at this point

1339
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 4: it makes zero sense for him to be out on

1340
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 4: the floor in AN nba game if he's not feeling

1341
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 4: as close to one hundred percent as. Possible SO i

1342
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 4: don't know the. Timetable he will not play in these two,

1343
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 4: games and we'll see what's what when we come out

1344
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: of the.

1345
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: Break pacers And action tonight taking on the nixt seven

1346
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: thirty pregame at seven. O'clock you Heard carlisle there say

1347
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: we'll figure it out when we come out of the.

1348
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: Break when we come out of the, break the one

1349
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 2: we're about to, Take Ralph frief will join us and

1350
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,879
Speaker 2: we will get the latest on in particular the injury

1351
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: news With indiana And Johnny furfey from. Yesterday ralph freef.

1352
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 2: NEXT i hate to ADMIT i find this song extremely,

1353
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: catchy AND i will also Admit party in THE usa

1354
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 2: another that you. Know, Listen i'm not afraid to bump

1355
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: that up a little, bit sing. Along i'm cool with.

1356
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: It i'm cool with. It you, know spring is in the,

1357
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: Air but is it a false? Summit, yes it, is

1358
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: but we'll take it while we. Can fifty four degrees,

1359
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: Today sonny outside The hell rip the shirt. Off look

1360
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: At eddie ripping his shirt. Off that's going to be

1361
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: me In. July Been i'm back on, it getting ready

1362
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: for The mini and everything else ready to, go joining

1363
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: us now on The Java, House peel and poor guest.

1364
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 2: Line when it comes to getting in fact in shape

1365
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: the training that goes with, It Ralph reef has been

1366
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: doing that for athletes Throughout Central indiana and really worldwide

1367
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 2: for the totality of his. Career Ralph reef dot com

1368
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: is the website For Reef Executive Performance solutions and in

1369
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: a vast career of athletic training that includes four Different

1370
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: hall Of fames in which he has been. Inducted one

1371
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 2: of the great responsibilities he had was assimbiling the training

1372
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: staff for The Olympic. GAMES i believe In atlanta And

1373
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: ralph is we are in The Winter. Olympics, Now i'm,

1374
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,879
Speaker 2: curious do you get a nostalgic feeling when you see

1375
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: and grass just the representation that all the athletes have

1376
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: in The.

1377
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 9: Olympics, well good to be with, You eddie And, jake and,

1378
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 9: YEAH i just love The. Olympics i've been fortunate to

1379
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 9: be a part of three of. Them and you were

1380
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 9: right in nineteen ninety, six The Centennial Olympic. GAMES i

1381
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 9: was honored to be the manager of athlete care for

1382
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 9: the Entire. Games and there's nothing like The Olympic games winter.

1383
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 9: Summer there's no better time to visit the region or

1384
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:39,440
Speaker 9: the city than during The olympics because of, security, transportation

1385
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 9: everybody's there for a common. Purpose and so, YEAH i.

1386
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 9: WATCH i was trying very hard to get To italy

1387
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 9: for These Winter. Games i'm on a committee WITH Usa

1388
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 9: bob fled and SO i stay involved with that particular,

1389
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 9: sport but it just didn't work out for. Me But

1390
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:06,839
Speaker 9: I'm bob's lad and they Start monday of next. Week

1391
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 9: they have the second week of The, games and So

1392
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 9: i'll be watching that with a lot of.

1393
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: Interest you, Know ralph before we get to AND i

1394
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 2: want to talk to about The Johnny furfey injury and

1395
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: a couple of other injury. Questions But i'm curious of

1396
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: this AS i watched the opening ceremonies for The, olympics

1397
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,879
Speaker 2: AND i really enjoy watching the opening, ceremonies partially BECAUSE

1398
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 2: i truly enjoy seeing and appreciate the introduction of things

1399
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: that are of cultural relevance to the host city or

1400
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 2: country right and embracing the fact that What i'm seeing

1401
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: is them telling me about what's important to, them not

1402
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: necessarily like trying to conform to what's important to. Us

1403
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: and there's an element of that just worldwide THAT i

1404
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: think we lack. Sometimes but WHEN i see the athletes

1405
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: entering into the arena or the stadium in The Winter games,

1406
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: here you can truly feel that with these young, people

1407
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 2: in these, athletes what's going on in the world is,

1408
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: shelved and it's about the spirit of sportsmanship and camaraderie

1409
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: and the understanding of the sacrifice that their fellow athletes went,

1410
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 2: through regardless of what their background is or the politics

1411
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: they grew up. In and that fraternal. Feeling to, me

1412
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: you can it comes across through the. Television do you

1413
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 2: feel it when you're?

1414
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:29,919
Speaker 9: THERE i get goosebumps you talking about, it AND i reflect.

1415
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 9: Back IF i could share two. Stories in nineteen ninety,

1416
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 9: SIX i was In Olympic, Stadium, atlanta AND i was working,

1417
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 9: medically AND i was often the one of the, hallways

1418
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 9: big big hallways where they moved all the floats and

1419
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 9: the participants that were dancing and so forth would come,

1420
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 9: through and The Olympic flame came into the stadium and

1421
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 9: none of, us none of us knew who was going

1422
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 9: to light the. Cauldron of, course it ended up Being Muhammad,

1423
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 9: ali and they brought him in in an underground tunnel

1424
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 9: which was built under the field At Olympic stadium and

1425
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 9: could come up through the center and so. Forth BUT

1426
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 9: i was standing there and up beside me on my,

1427
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 9: shoulder all of a sudden Appears Janet, Evans Janet, Evans olympic.

1428
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 9: Swimmer she was going to take the flame From Evander,

1429
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 9: holafield who ran into the stadium and came around one

1430
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 9: of the turns and he handed it off To Janet.

1431
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 9: Evans janet then went down the, backstretch as it, were

1432
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 9: to the, steps and she ran up the. Steps you

1433
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 9: can get all of this on. YouTube she runs up the,

1434
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 9: steps hands it to the shaking arms Of Muhammad. Ali,

1435
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 9: well going back To janet was standing next to me

1436
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 9: with tears in her, eyes scared to death with the

1437
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 9: enormity of the. Situation and it was one of those

1438
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 9: moments where all of a SUDDEN i became her, dad

1439
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 9: AND i put my hand on her shoulder and, said

1440
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 9: you've got, this and we have since seen each. Other

1441
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 9: we saw each other In rio at The Olympic house

1442
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 9: and we rekindled those. Statements but there another. Thing during

1443
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 9: the race walk In atlanta in ninety, six one of

1444
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 9: the participants THAT i literally caught at the finish line

1445
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 9: was he was wobbling and was going to. Collapse and

1446
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 9: we had a process that we're always going to have

1447
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 9: a clean finish, line and so if anybody's going to,

1448
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 9: drop we needed to get under them and pick them

1449
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 9: up and not allow them to hit the. Ground, well this,

1450
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 9: gentleman the picture appeared in the Daily Sports. Illustrated so every,

1451
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 9: day at least in those, Days Sports illustrated would publish

1452
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 9: A Sports illustrated magazine for the, day and those were

1453
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 9: sent throughout The Olympic village and the various press rooms

1454
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 9: and so on and so. Forth, well this gentleman.

1455
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 5: Found. Me there was a picture of me holding him.

1456
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 9: Up he found me at the medical facility in The Olympic,

1457
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 9: village which Was Georgia Tech's Sports Medicine, center and he

1458
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,520
Speaker 9: came in and through an interpreter he was From. Croatia

1459
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 9: through an, interpreter he showed me the picture and, said

1460
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 9: thank you and gave me a. Hug that's The, olympics

1461
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 9: and there's all the, wars all the, conflicts all the.

1462
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 9: Concerns they abbd absolutely melt.

1463
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 5: Away and.

1464
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 9: If the, world, YEAH i could preach on, this but

1465
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 9: if the world could embrace what those athletes and coaches

1466
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 9: are feeling right now In, italy we have a pretty good.

1467
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: Place and you, Know, ralph one of the one of

1468
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 2: the unique dichotomies about The United states is and this

1469
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: is just my, opinion but you, know For Muhammad ali

1470
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: in that moment in nineteen ninety, six the thing THAT

1471
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: i remember the most about. It you, Know Muhammad ali

1472
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: is somebody who had himself been you, know outspoken about

1473
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:43,560
Speaker 2: his displeasure of some of the policies and the politics

1474
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 2: of the government of The United states as an earlier,

1475
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: man and yet that moment was not only perhaps an

1476
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: amen and also somebody who had won a gold medal and,

1477
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: then you, know been outspoken about how it didn't mean

1478
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 2: as much to him because of the politics of The United.

1479
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: States so maybe that.

1480
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: Was as much much About Muhammad ali making amends there

1481
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 2: as it also was the symbolism and the representation that

1482
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: we are a nation that can still love those people

1483
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: that have conflict at times of absorbing everything that goes,

1484
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: on because that's what makes us the country we are

1485
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: because we have that ability and that freedom to voice those.

1486
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: Things AND i hope that's something that we never lose sight.

1487
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: Of on a personal, note but let's get to the

1488
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: injury for The pacers And Johnny, furfey and what we

1489
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 2: know now is the interior cruciate. Ligament he is obviously

1490
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: a young. MAN i don't know if that factors in

1491
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 2: with the repair, time but we've talked to you about

1492
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: knee injuries. Before there's THE, pcl THE, mcl THE, acl

1493
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: the anterior cruciate ligament in the right. Knee this is

1494
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: what sort of a time frame and in form of

1495
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: the knee. Ligaments this one is how critical.

1496
01:22:53,880 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 9: Well THE, acl anterior cruciate ligament is the most important

1497
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 9: ligament to the long term health of the, joint of

1498
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 9: the knee joint and it also from a mechanism for

1499
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 9: an athlete or any. Person the a C l keeps the,

1500
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 9: tibia which is the long bone of your your legs.

1501
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 9: Bone it keeps the tibia in place as you, flex,

1502
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 9: bend go, upstairs, downstairs get your car, rotate turn a

1503
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 9: corner on so. Forth the a C l keeps the

1504
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 9: joint in, place and so it's a significantly important to

1505
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 9: the mechanism of the. Knee and that's why the a

1506
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 9: C l quite often gets repaired pretty quickly for professional.

1507
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 9: Athletes now we've got a Whole olympics story which occurred

1508
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 9: with downhill skiing about the a C. L but So,

1509
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 9: furfey WHAT i noted that was very interesting and really

1510
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 9: a good sign is That johnny had surgery. Yesterday everything

1511
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 9: THAT i read acers are they went From toronto To New.

1512
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 9: York they went went to The hospital For Special, surgery

1513
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 9: which is, uh the mecca of orthopedic surgery in The,

1514
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 9: united's if not, world and so fortunate that they were

1515
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 9: traveling To New York. City, uh they went TO Hss

1516
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 9: hospital For Special. Surgery confirmed he had an a C.

1517
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,520
Speaker 9: L and the reports THAT i read he had Surgery.

1518
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 10: Monday so what that tells us is THAT i did

1519
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 10: not have a significant amount of swelling in the knee

1520
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 10: joint or in the.

1521
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: Knee, actually real, quick we.

1522
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 9: Vote a call all here in The United, States, Hey.

1523
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: Ralph real, quick because we've got a connectivity. Issue if

1524
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 2: we take a quick recess here for about five minutes in.

1525
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Reset can we joined you back up here in just a,

1526
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 2: second we're gonna Rejoine Ralph reef BECAUSE i want to

1527
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: get into this about the surgery Of Johnny. Furfey we'll

1528
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: do it on the other side here in just a

1529
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: couple of. Minutes here you're listening to a quarrying company

1530
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: on the. Fan, okay apologize there that we Lost, ralph

1531
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: AND i apologize for that Because ralph was mentioning. That

1532
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 2: and it is true that the initial report For Johnny

1533
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: furfey was that he was taken to the hospital On

1534
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 2: monday In New, york and of course The pacers are

1535
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 2: In New york to take on The, knicks and that

1536
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: In New york is where THE mri confirmed his, injury

1537
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: and that he was taken to the hospital for a special. Surgery,

1538
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: Now RALPH i believe said, there AND i don't want

1539
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: to misquote him, here but that it was his understanding

1540
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: that surgery has taken. PLACE i Think Rick carlisle said

1541
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: this morning that that surgery had. Not of, course that

1542
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: could be that, happened you, know earlier within the last

1543
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: couple of hours or Since Rick carlisle was on the morning,

1544
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 2: show AND i apologize for the technical difficulty there Because,

1545
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: RALPH i think is just an outstanding. GUEST i always

1546
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: appreciate his time and perspective on. It and in, addition

1547
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: just in talking about The, OLYMPICS i could talk about.

1548
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: THAT i mean The furfee injury and the getting the.

1549
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: SURGERY i, MEAN i think we know that the timeline

1550
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 2: for that typically it's somewhere between six to twelve. Months

1551
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 2: it depends on the severity of the. Injury but even,

1552
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: still the one drawback would be That furfey to, me

1553
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: was starting to really start to show some, things and

1554
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 2: in particular his rebounding. Game he is a good. SHOOTER

1555
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: i wouldn't say he's a great, shooter but he is

1556
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 2: a good. Shooter he is a good baseline, shooter and

1557
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: he has a quick. Release and, DEFENSIVELY i think that

1558
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 2: he was really starting to come into his own, defensively

1559
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: notably with his ability to close, airspace to use a

1560
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 2: Pat riley term on offensive players and just get up

1561
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: and utilize his body in that, regard And furfey in those,

1562
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 2: areas that is somebody who certainly has shown something and

1563
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: the true bummer here is for a young, player and

1564
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: there is just it is right. Now is the perfect,

1565
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: opportunity the perfect opportunity for young players because of the

1566
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: fact that when you look at, it AND i KNOW

1567
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: i said the other, day and that's one of the

1568
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: THINGS i wanted to Ask ralph about IS i would

1569
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: assume with any player in THE nba at this, point

1570
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: there is always something that is looming and or nagging

1571
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: in terms of an injury that needs more.

1572
01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: Time and if that's the, case then.

1573
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: You, know do you now all of a, sudden, Say

1574
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Pascal siakam's got a hamstring tightness that needs to be, Addressed.

1575
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: Aaron neismith has an ankle that needs.

1576
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: Rest If indiana AND i really believe, this The pacers

1577
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 2: are wanting to hold onto one of those top four,

1578
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: spots and so therefore do you start to get creative with?

1579
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: THAT i think we Have ralph.

1580
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: Back, Ralph before we get to that, QUESTION i wanted

1581
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: to give you a chance to rehash right when we lost.

1582
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,560
Speaker 2: YOU i believe you said that it was your understanding

1583
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: or you had word That furfey either has had surgery

1584
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 2: or is going to have surgery.

1585
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: Eminently is that?

1586
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 9: Correct EVERYTHING i could find was that he had surgery

1587
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 9: In New York city.

1588
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: Yesterday, okay if, that and even if, it BECAUSE i

1589
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Think Rick carlile said this morning that they were still

1590
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: waiting on. That you, know either, way he's obviously going

1591
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: to have it. Right what is THE nye table on

1592
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 2: a return for something like, that in terms of what's

1593
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: the fastest a guy can come back and what is

1594
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: the most cautious time.

1595
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 9: Frame, well a person we always point to you might

1596
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 9: be familiar With clemson football Player Amari. Rodgers, yeah sort

1597
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 9: of set the record for five and a half months

1598
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 9: POST acli think he tore it and spring football came

1599
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 9: back sooner than. Expected and Then Adrian, peterson of COURSE

1600
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 9: nfl running back was pretty speedy at eight. Months so

1601
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 9: we medically like to say eight to ten. Months that's

1602
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 9: a big, window but there's a lot of human nuances

1603
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 9: to coming back from. That great thing Is johnny's twenty

1604
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 9: one years. Old to my, knowledge he's not been injured.

1605
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 9: Before can be good and, bad meaning it's going to

1606
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 9: be interestant to go through a re plitation, process but

1607
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 9: his age will certainly be to his. Benefit AND i

1608
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 9: would say to just circle on the calendar for basketball

1609
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 9: at THE nba experience would be ten.

1610
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: Months the other side of that would Be ralph AS

1611
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 2: i was talking about when you look at some of

1612
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: the players On India's Pascal, Siakam Aaron, nesmith whatever it might.

1613
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 2: Be If indiana wanted to give some of these guys

1614
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: time off and they didn't want to be completely disingenuous

1615
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 2: in doing, so is it safe to say that at

1616
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 2: this point in the year for ANY nba player there

1617
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 2: is always something that would need rest and relaxation or

1618
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: simply time to get back to one hundred. Percent if

1619
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: you were looking for reason to give a guy some

1620
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 2: time to get to one hundred, percent so to, Speak.

1621
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 9: Well there's certainly the mental wear and, tear the mental

1622
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 9: fatigue as well as the physical, fatigue and those are

1623
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 9: the two biggest. Things and you, know as you look

1624
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 9: through the DAILY nba rosters around the league and and how,

1625
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 9: teams there are certain categories they slide players into that

1626
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 9: they're out due to injury or they're out due to you,

1627
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 9: know prescribe, rest and so you, know THE nba has

1628
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 9: created those those situations where it's allowable and the at this, point,

1629
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 9: yeah there's it's it's sort of like late in AN nfl,

1630
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 9: season everybody that runs out on the field has something

1631
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 9: going on right and and because of the nature of

1632
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 9: the game and THE nba is certainly the same. Thing

1633
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 9: there's a lot of soft tissue wear and. Tear whether it's,

1634
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 9: uh my foot's a little, sore my hamstrings a little,

1635
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 9: sore my shoulders are, tight you, know et, cetera et.

1636
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Cetera so what what is the typical when a guy

1637
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 2: comes back or gal from AN acl? Injury Ralph frief

1638
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: is my guest on the job house peel and poor guest.

1639
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 2: Line when a player comes back from a knee injury like,

1640
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 2: that which we see more of now than we used,

1641
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:09,640
Speaker 2: To perhaps how, Long, ralph in your observation or, experience

1642
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 2: does it take for the player to psychologically come back

1643
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 2: to trust the.

1644
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 5: Knee it's a.

1645
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 9: Great, question and it's an area that our industry is

1646
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 9: paying a lot more attention. To and WHEN i say

1647
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 9: paying attention, to is what is the confidence level of the?

1648
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 9: Athlete and we throw it into that that sort of

1649
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 9: bucket of calling it. Confidence in other, words you're getting

1650
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 9: over fear And i'm not Sure i've got a new

1651
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 9: feeling in my leg And i've got to get used to.

1652
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 9: That that's one THAT i have seen pop up just

1653
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 9: so often where the athlete will come back from an

1654
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 9: a C l and everything everything checks out on the,

1655
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 9: metrics strength and, uh their ability to jump with the

1656
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 9: force they put into the. Ground everything that we can,

1657
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 9: measure they measure really. Well but they say it doesn't feel.

1658
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 9: Right and that's generally from the standpoint that the neuro

1659
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 9: muscular system gets injured just as much as the a

1660
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 9: C l is, torn all of the the nerves that

1661
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,759
Speaker 9: run through the leg and around and through the joint

1662
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 9: they're disrupted as, well and and that healing process is.

1663
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 9: Hard so that goes tracks right to the, brain which

1664
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 9: affects your your mental outlook On, hey it doesn't feel,

1665
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 9: right so what's my level of. Confidence we now have different, surveys,

1666
01:33:51,640 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 9: processes charts that we can measure the mental, readiness just

1667
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 9: as we measure the strength of the quad recept muscle.

1668
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 9: Group and so it's being utilized more and more and.

1669
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:13,919
Speaker 9: More and so to answer that, question because that's always

1670
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 9: the lingering question has been for as long As i've

1671
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 9: been in the. Business you, know the, coach the, parent the,

1672
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 9: player teammates will, say is the athlete? Ready where do

1673
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 9: you think they are mentally? Well now we've got tools

1674
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 9: through the great work of the sports psychology, community we've

1675
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 9: got some tools that can really allow us to measure.

1676
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 9: That So Johnny furfey will be on his own his

1677
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 9: own timetable with, that just Like Tyrese haliburton And Ralph.

1678
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 9: Reef you, know we're as individual as fingerprints when it

1679
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 9: comes to the mental.

1680
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Readiness, Well, ralph when it's on your own time.

1681
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 2: SCHEDULE i appreciate the fact that you make time for

1682
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 2: us to come on this. Show it is a segment

1683
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 2: that's one of my, favorites AND i know listeners as.

1684
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: Well always informative and appreciate also the resil today with

1685
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 2: the reconnect there much.

1686
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 5: Appreciated thanks for hanging with. Me it's always great to

1687
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 5: be a part of.

1688
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 2: IT i appreciate. It ralphrief joining, Us Java House peel

1689
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,839
Speaker 2: and poor Guest. Line we talked about Purdueing. Nebraska purdue's

1690
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 2: got to get on the right side of things. Here

1691
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 2: not to say that they, haven't because they've obviously got

1692
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: a couple in the wind, column but this is a

1693
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: big test. Tonight what exactly Is Fred hoiberg bringing to the.

1694
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Table we'll get into that with somebody who covers The

1695
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 2: huskers next great song and the symphony For purdue this

1696
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 2: year has at times been. Bittersweet we thought that it

1697
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 2: was going to be a wired to wire story for

1698
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: The boilers And Matt, paynter just in terms of always

1699
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 2: having the right harmony towards, winning but not to say

1700
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: that that's going to be the, case because it's going

1701
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: to be a big one tonight for them taking On

1702
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 2: nebraska seven o'clock tip. Tonight joining us now on The

1703
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: Java House Peeling poor guest. Line he is the sports

1704
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: director at K E tv In, Omaha. NEBRASKA a return

1705
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: guest to the, Program Andy kendy joins us on the.

1706
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: Program, andy how are you? Do we?

1707
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 9: Have?

1708
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Andyanny that was my.

1709
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 2: Fault there we, Go, Andy, sorry we had a producer

1710
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 2: that hit a blit.

1711
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: Button you know that, drill don't?

1712
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 5: You?

1713
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 8: Yeah oh, YEAH i. Know well you probably THOUGHT i

1714
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 8: was swearing like talking LIKE i normally. Do that's, right, y,

1715
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 8: brother good to talk to.

1716
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 2: Him, Man, Well i'm, well, LISTEN i did not think

1717
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 2: in the years that we have known each, other and

1718
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 2: AND i thought about this last. Night did you ever

1719
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 2: think the day would come Where indiana football would Become

1720
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: nebraska football up yesteryear And nebraska basketball would be The

1721
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 2: indiana basketball of.

1722
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 11: Yesteryear, yeah it's so nice to talk to somebody from

1723
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 11: a football playing. State this is great the home of

1724
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 11: the national. Champion AND i don't know if you know,

1725
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 11: this But nebraska not only is a volleyball, school But

1726
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 11: nebraska's now a basketball, school which is just unbelievable what

1727
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 11: we're going through here in this THEY i could not

1728
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 11: have predicted. THIS i don't think many people.

1729
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 8: Could.

1730
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 11: Now everybody thought they were going to be better this, Year,

1731
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 11: jake but to what extent and to this, extent nobody

1732
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 11: could have predicted.

1733
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 2: This what has been the reasoning for what Has Fred

1734
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 2: heiberg done with this roster and what is the challenge

1735
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: it creates For.

1736
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 11: Purdue, well, one they got a healthy Rank mass. Back

1737
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 11: he was out last year with a major knee, injury

1738
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 11: And rink was really the key to THEIR Sa tournament.

1739
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 8: Run two years. Ago and having him, back he's the.

1740
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,719
Speaker 11: Guy He's hoiberg likes, spread likes to run his offense

1741
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 11: through a kind of a point big So rink is

1742
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 11: up at the top of the key a guy who

1743
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 11: can shoot it but also can get distribute and you,

1744
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 11: know if he, haskes who can drive to the, hoop

1745
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 11: and that provides a mismatch to you, know bringing another

1746
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 11: big out with. Him SO i think that's the first.

1747
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 11: Key number, two they got a couple of key. Transfers

1748
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 11: one guy in the poor who came back To nebraska

1749
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 11: And JaMarcus, morins he's a point. Guard and then the

1750
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 11: other guy Is Pryce, stanford whose Brother peyton played For iowa.

1751
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 8: As Did price last.

1752
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 11: Year And price came over From iowa To nebraska When

1753
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 11: iowa had their coaching change and he's been. Fantastic and

1754
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 11: then THE x factor is This Braden. Frager this guy

1755
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 11: is technically a true freshman year, wise though he enrolled

1756
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 11: early and. Reclassified so this guy the young, kid but

1757
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 11: he's coming off an ankle. Injury but when he's at full,

1758
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 11: strength he Gives nebraska an extra element because he can

1759
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 11: flash and drive to the. Hoop AND i think that's

1760
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 11: been a real big key to this, team is the

1761
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 11: emergence Of Braden frager along with those other. Things and you,

1762
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 11: know and the guy we don't talk about Is Sam.

1763
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 11: Hoiberg and we should because he's kind of a glue,

1764
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 11: guy does all the little. Things He's Fred song and

1765
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 11: he's really turned into a, nice nice. Player you, know

1766
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 11: he's basically a team leader in plus. Minus and the

1767
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 11: one's really scrappy. Bottom he's six feet tall AND i

1768
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 11: think he's second.

1769
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 8: On the team in. Rebound so the guy is smarter

1770
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 8: than smart and he's he's a Tough he's a. Tough,

1771
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 8: uh he's a tough matchup because he's so.

1772
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 2: Scrappy you, Know, ANDY i was looking at, it And

1773
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 2: Andy kenny is my guests From omaha talking About nebraska

1774
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 2: basketball and the way That hoiberg has built this team

1775
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 2: and offensively, speaking the fact that they are so forward

1776
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 2: orient you, know usually you see your leading scorers being

1777
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 2: in your ball, control being your back court. Guys, right

1778
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 2: do they draw bigs away a little? Bit in terms

1779
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 2: of defensively, speaking you, Know Trey Kaufman wren Or Fletcher.

1780
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 2: Lawyer are they going to have to be guarding now

1781
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,480
Speaker 2: further out from the? Basket and does that give advantage

1782
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: to second chance opportunities For?

1783
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 1: Nebraska, well that's.

1784
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 11: The Whole AND i didn't Mention, Bryce butonjel And he's

1785
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 11: a big, lefty big tall guy who can put the

1786
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 11: ball on the ground.

1787
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 5: If he needs.

1788
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,519
Speaker 8: To you, know they like to spread the, floor they

1789
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 8: like to shoot. Three and the more that they can

1790
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 8: get The bigs out from under the, hoop the. Better,

1791
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 8: now when they, struggled WHEN.

1792
01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 11: I say, struggled they lost back to back. Games they

1793
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 11: didn't Have ranked mass for The michigan, game And Branden

1794
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 11: frager was off of The michigan. Game and then when

1795
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 11: they both did come, Back illinois just had the better

1796
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 11: of them on that second loss And rank was still

1797
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 11: dealing with the hydration issues he was hospitalized for a

1798
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 11: period of. Time so not to make, excuses Because illinois

1799
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 11: deserved to win that. Game but getting back to the

1800
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 11: thing your question, is drawing The bigs out is a.

1801
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 11: Key BUT i think on the flip, side where they

1802
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 11: really struggled in those games was. Offensively the opponent really

1803
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 11: tried to bang in there because they have size, mismatches

1804
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 11: AND i think that's Where purdue could.

1805
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 8: Have an advantage tonight because of their.

1806
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 11: Size and If purdue can win the battle of the,

1807
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 11: boards they got a real good chance because eliminating second

1808
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 11: chance opportunities For nebraska when they're Defending. Purdue that's going

1809
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 11: to be one of the keys to this. Game Because

1810
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 11: purdue is so, Big they've got the size. Advantage and

1811
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 11: If nebraska can Keep purdue one and done shooting the ball,

1812
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 11: LIVE i Think nebraska is a real good. Shot but

1813
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 11: if you see those second our second chance opportunities By,

1814
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 11: PURDUE i think that's that's.

1815
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 8: Where The boilers are really really going to get the.

1816
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 1: Advantage, andy is it still?

1817
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 2: SURREAL i know In indiana AND iu fans will probably

1818
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 2: get mad at me for saying, this, Right BUT i

1819
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 2: think Most indiana fans still.

1820
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Are it's just odd to see The.

1821
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 2: Clemsons in The Florida states and The miamis and The

1822
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 2: alabama's and The oklahomas of the world and Think indiana

1823
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,600
Speaker 2: is better than all of them this year in, football

1824
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 2: right is? It are you having the same delay of

1825
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:39,640
Speaker 2: epiphany when it comes To nebraska?

1826
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 11: Basketball, WELL i THINK i think THE i was thinking

1827
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 11: about this just a little earlier than you. Know the

1828
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 11: thing about it is that you're Seeing nebraska on the,

1829
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 11: schedule AND i think most of your listeners will. Agree

1830
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 11: like you've Seen nebraska on the basketball, Schedule you're, like It's.

1831
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:57,240
Speaker 11: Nebraska yeah they're twenty and two or twenty one and,

1832
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 11: two but It's, nebraska, Right nebraska kind of like what

1833
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 11: most people took about a year and a half to

1834
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 11: figure out About. Indiana you See indiana football and you're, like,

1835
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 11: yeah It's. Indiana yeah they're, okay but It's. Indiana they'll

1836
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 11: come back to. Earth that's WHAT i think The nebraska

1837
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 11: basketball fans are hearing a lot of nationally, like, yeah

1838
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 11: it's a nice, run but they'll eventually come crashing down

1839
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 11: to earth because They're nebraska. Basketball they have zero. History

1840
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 11: they've never won An Scuba tournament, Game SO i think

1841
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 11: in that, RESPECT i think there's a. Comparison BUT i

1842
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 11: will tell you that The kurtzignetti comparison to every other,

1843
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 11: program Because Matt rule gets asked this all the. Time

1844
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 11: he was, like we didn't do it Like. Indiana you're,

1845
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 11: like it's always a, disclaimer like we're Not, indiana you, know, like, oh,

1846
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 11: okay but Obviously indiana did it the way they did,

1847
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 11: it and it turned out to be a brilliant blueprint

1848
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 11: to win a national. Championship you might want to take some, notes,

1849
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 11: RIGHT i, mean that was a pretty epic. Run these

1850
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 11: last couple of, years AND i think If nebraska basketball, Listen,

1851
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 11: jake this is a program that's never won An Scuba tournament,

1852
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 11: game the Only power conference team In america that can

1853
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 11: say that they have never won AN ncaa tournament. Game

1854
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 11: and now we're talking two, seed three, seed four. Seed

1855
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 11: we're trying to get hotel rooms and places that are you,

1856
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 11: know opening, weekend that are close enough in proximity so

1857
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 11: we can get the upper hand in. It this is

1858
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 11: on chartered, territory SO i Think nebraska fans are smart

1859
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 11: enough to enjoy.

1860
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 8: This but it, is it.

1861
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 12: Is it.

1862
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 11: Is we are having to get used To nebraska as

1863
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 11: a basketball, School i'm, sure much Like indiana totally get

1864
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:29,759
Speaker 11: used to be in a football.

1865
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 2: School, well and Does indiana? Football you, KNOW i know

1866
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,720
Speaker 2: what football means to the people Of. NEBRASKA i know

1867
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 2: it BECAUSE i once drove across the entire state Of

1868
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 2: nebraska on a road trip on A, saturday And i'm

1869
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty miles From lincoln at seven in

1870
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 2: the morning and there's cars caravanning, right and you know

1871
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 2: the number of sellout games and everything. Else what Did

1872
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 2: indiana's football run do for The nebraska football fan.

1873
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 1: BASE i, mean wasn't.

1874
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 2: There weren't there people that were, like how on the

1875
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 2: world world Does indiana do?

1876
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: It and we can't get this done one hundred?

1877
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 11: Percent one hundred, Percent how Is indiana doing? It what's

1878
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 11: their secret? Sauce and why Can't nebraska do? It with

1879
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 11: just as, many if not, more resources dedicated to football

1880
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 11: and facilities that are, outstanding and a fan base as

1881
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 11: you know that lives and breethes for. Football i'll tell

1882
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 11: you what dick this. Is you, know we normally are

1883
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 11: breaking down position battles for spring. Practice at this. Point

1884
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 11: there has been very little chatter About nebraska football these

1885
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 11: last couple of weeks because of the basketball, success AND i,

1886
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 11: think you, know maybe that's a good thing For nebraska

1887
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 11: football because they're coming off a seven win season for

1888
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 11: the second straight, year which is good when you think

1889
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 11: about where they have been in years. Past, however the

1890
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 11: seven wins this season doesn't hit like the seven wins

1891
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 11: did last season because they won their bowl game a

1892
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 11: year ago and this year they got manhandled By utah

1893
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 11: and a team that the most people thought that they

1894
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 11: could stack up against. Better but you, know back to your,

1895
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:04,759
Speaker 11: thing Like matt Rule will will preface somethings saying about

1896
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 11: the Way indiana has done it and that they have

1897
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 11: taken a different, approach at least. Initially now they're starting

1898
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 11: to get the value of the transfer portal and really

1899
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 11: going all. IN i, Mean nebraska's the recruiting class is.

1900
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 11: Eleven it's the smallest recruiting class of high school kids.

1901
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 11: Ever they lost their five star quarterback because he transferred

1902
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 11: To oregon he wanted too much. Money and now they

1903
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 11: bring in a quarterback from U nlv And Anthony, calandra

1904
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 11: who hopefully will Give nebraska a running and throwing from.

1905
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 11: It so it all comes back to football in the.

1906
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 11: State this basketball thing has been a really nice, diversion

1907
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 11: AND i think If nebraska can show some success in,

1908
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 11: basketball THE ad has already said the basketball is going

1909
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 11: to get more resources as we move, forward BECAUSE i

1910
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 11: think everybody sees what kind of you, know what this

1911
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 11: boost can do for the athletic department as a whole

1912
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 11: when your basketball team play as well as you guys

1913
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 11: very well known in the state Of.

1914
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 2: Indiana Does Fred hoiberg in this group Any candy's my

1915
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 2: guess FROM KdV In omaha when you look at this

1916
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: installment Of nebraska, Basketball, andy can they be a chameleon

1917
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: in their style or do they have one definitive style

1918
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 2: of play and come and get it and take your

1919
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: shot with.

1920
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 8: Them.

1921
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 11: No here's the thing About, Fred like people forget Like

1922
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 11: fred came in as this offensive guru guy that runs

1923
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 11: all these, sets and he just still does that to a.

1924
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 8: Point BUT i think what he's.

1925
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 11: Evolved this is the seventh year, here and he was

1926
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 11: really on the hot seat after years, three and a

1927
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 11: lot of people thought he wouldn't be, back and yet they.

1928
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 11: Stuck the administration stuck with, him and they have been

1929
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 11: rewarded because What nebraska does so well is they play team.

1930
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 11: Defense it is really refreshing to see everybody as connected

1931
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 11: as they are on the defensive side of the. Ball

1932
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 11: and that's something as you, know when you're not, shooting

1933
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 11: you can't shoot lights out every, game, right you. Can't

1934
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 11: but the one thing you can do is play tough

1935
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 11: defense every. Game AND i think that's the one thing

1936
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 11: has been able to, do not just at the end

1937
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 11: of last, year but carried over to this. Year they'd

1938
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 11: really play good team defense and if they can eliminate

1939
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 11: second chance. Opportunities they can be in games with just about.

1940
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 11: Anyone and here's the thing, too and when they shoot, it,

1941
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 11: well if they hit fourteen to fifteen threes on a,

1942
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 11: night lookout and that home court. Advantage, now, granted it's

1943
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 11: an early. Start here's six o'clock local time here seven O'clock,

1944
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 11: eastern so that will be a, challenge BUT i guarantee

1945
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 11: you every game is sold out now A Pinnacle Bank.

1946
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 11: Arena people are jashed with this. Team they want to

1947
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 11: See nebraska knock off another ranked, team and this would

1948
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 11: be one of their better wins of the, year and

1949
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 11: on a schedule that this is probably their highest ranked

1950
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 11: opponent as we move down here the stretch of the

1951
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 11: regular season until they get to The Big ten. Tournament

1952
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 11: so if you want to move up that seed, line

1953
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 11: you want to give yourself a better line on that,

1954
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 11: resume you got to win.

1955
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 2: Tonight so six o'clock Tip nebraska, time seven o'clock in

1956
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 2: The eastern time. Zone of, course that means that everybody's

1957
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 2: got to wrap up their drinks At. Barries isn't It

1958
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 2: barries not the name the?

1959
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 8: Joint, yeah, yep, indeed you know it very. Well barr's,

1960
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 8: right down the.

1961
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 2: Street, YEAH i went To berries and my Buddy byron

1962
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 2: AND i were driving Through. Lincoln they were Playing. Michigan we're,

1963
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 2: like let's go To let's find the, local like a you,

1964
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 2: know legendary.

1965
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: Place so we go To. Berries it was on a Football.

1966
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 2: Saturday we found two other, guys the only two guys

1967
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: there that were the same age as the two of.

1968
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 2: Us byron drank seven bush lights in fifteen. Minutes and

1969
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 2: then now suddenly he's ready to move To nebraska and

1970
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 2: buy all red and white.

1971
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 1: Gear And i'm, like, na, dude we got a road

1972
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 1: trip to get. To we got to get on the

1973
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: road right right.

1974
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,680
Speaker 11: Now barry has that upper deck, Too and with the

1975
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 11: way the weather has. Been, shoot it was seventy five

1976
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 11: degrees here. Yesterday jacob was, like seventy five people are

1977
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 11: going to spring break, HERE i mean room. Today it's

1978
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 11: today it's more back back down in, normals like forty

1979
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 11: five degrees.

1980
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 8: Here but still it's then. Nights you know where we're.

1981
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 11: There we are talking About College World, series which is

1982
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 11: right around the.

1983
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: Corner i've always heard that's a cool, trip.

1984
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Man the one of these days you're gonna get one

1985
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 2: of my annoying texts, Saying, Hey i'm An omaha for

1986
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 2: The College World series and then we'll drive over To.

1987
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: Berries that's what we're gonna.

1988
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 11: Do, anytime, Anytime i'll show you the local haunts here

1989
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 11: and The College World series for all you baseball fans out,

1990
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 11: Here indy anime With Kyle schwarmer back in the.

1991
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:10,759
Speaker 8: Day, correct that was something.

1992
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 11: Else i'll tell, you, man The College World. Series if

1993
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,520
Speaker 11: you've never, been it's like A it's like a festival

1994
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 11: center around. Baseball it's the celebration of sport with plenty

1995
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 11: of food and drink to be.

1996
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 2: Had i've always heard it'. School so that is a

1997
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 2: bucket list type. Deal, ANDY i appreciate it as, always,

1998
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Man and we'll see what happens tonight Between purdue And.

1999
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 2: Nebraska BUT i appreciate the insights as. Always anytime a

2000
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 2: Man jay could to talk to, YOU i appreciate. It, Andy,

2001
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 2: kendy who goes way back by the. Way you, know

2002
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 2: it's funny in this line of, work the people That

2003
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 2: i'd like to think by listening to, that you would

2004
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 2: think That andy AND, i like you, know went to

2005
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 2: college together or.

2006
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Something that's not the.

2007
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Case he worked at THE abc television affiliate In milwaukee

2008
01:49:58,240 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 2: at the time THAT i was at THE abc tele

2009
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 2: in station here In, indy and he was well ahead

2010
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 2: of WHERE i was and still is in his. Career But,

2011
01:50:07,320 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 2: andy you, know just in swapping tape back and, forth

2012
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 2: and at that, TIME i was trying really hard to

2013
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: get a job in, television and his you, know because

2014
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 2: he was In milwaukee and covered the, packers he knew

2015
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 2: a lot of the folks In Green, bay and SO

2016
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: i was trying to get a job In Green bay

2017
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: and actually had an opportunity to go up there and,

2018
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: interview BUT i got a job. Elsewhere but that's HOW

2019
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: i got to Know. ANDY i don't know that in.

2020
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 2: Person i've spent a lot of time with, them but

2021
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 2: always just via the phone and satellite tape swaps and

2022
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 2: things like. That you just get to know, people And

2023
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,640
Speaker 2: andy actually Had AND i say this only BECAUSE i

2024
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 2: think it's an important thing for people to, know and

2025
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 2: he's open about. It So i'm not spilling any any

2026
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 2: sort of info. Here But andy's my, age and a

2027
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 2: couple of years ago he had a pain in his

2028
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: lower back and thought he had a herniated disk and

2029
01:50:58,160 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: went to the doctor and found out that he actually

2030
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 2: had an infection and an abscess in his, spine which

2031
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 2: knocked him out of work for quite some. Time he

2032
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 2: lost a lot of, weight had to fight back to

2033
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 2: a health. Standpoint but he has been very vocal and

2034
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 2: active In omaha and Around nebraska of making sure that

2035
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 2: people are conscientious and aware with little things like, that

2036
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: of staying on it and checking all the boxes instead

2037
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 2: of just immediately dismissing it because you Get, eddie.

2038
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 1: As you'll find.

2039
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 2: Out you, know once you get one hundred and fifty

2040
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 2: thousand miles on the, car, man like every single knock

2041
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 2: that takes place with underneath the, hood you got to

2042
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 2: take a look at it differently than if it was

2043
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 2: just a twenty thousand dollars rental car or a twenty

2044
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:38,919
Speaker 2: thousand mile rental.

2045
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 1: Car you know WHAT i.

2046
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 2: Mean But andy's a good. Dude that's gonna be a

2047
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 2: good matchup. Tonight and, AGAIN i think one of the

2048
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: things that's going to be interesting For purdue is the

2049
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: way That nebraska operates offensively and the way they can

2050
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: kind of draw people away from the low block that

2051
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 2: you know In.

2052
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling You, purdue If purdue is gonna get, right.

2053
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: It's got to start this week because you go At

2054
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:10,799
Speaker 2: nebraska and At, iowa you drop those two and then

2055
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 2: you're taking on lots of. WATER i don't know what

2056
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 2: it is With. Purdue, defensively they have dropped. Off cohesiveness

2057
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 2: does not seem to be. There my understanding is from

2058
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 2: people that are around it that that's not a concern

2059
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 2: at least when you look at it up front or

2060
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 2: from a close. Perspective BUT i really do, THINK i

2061
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 2: really do think that there is some truth to the

2062
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 2: theory of simply, look when you have a roster As

2063
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 2: purdue does that you, have it's great to have everybody come, back,

2064
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 2: Right it's great to have like all your players. Back

2065
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 2: but when you have with you, Know Braden smith And

2066
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,639
Speaker 2: Fletcher lawyer And Trey Kaufman rehn and, YES i know is, new,

2067
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 2: Right but when you are running the same sets in

2068
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 2: the same, system because you are running the same, personnel

2069
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: that is truly to be. Commended but at the same,

2070
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: time it means that Unlike, nebraska Unlike, iowa Unlike, indiana

2071
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 2: there isn't as much.

2072
01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: Tape you.

2073
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 2: KNOW i was always bewildered to go back to WHEN

2074
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 2: i talked About indiana and the way that they practiced for,

2075
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 2: allegedly you, know three plus hours the night before they Played,

2076
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 2: syracuse and that great team that they had With oladipo

2077
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 2: And zella in that. GROUP i always marveled at Why

2078
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: indiana seemingly was so dumbfounded By sarahcuse's matchup zone Because

2079
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 2: syracuse had run that same zone for forty years and

2080
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 2: that truly if you really want to tip the cap

2081
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 2: to great, coaching AND i think that you, Know syracuse

2082
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:07,480
Speaker 2: was always an interesting team to me because By i'm

2083
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:13,080
Speaker 2: he mastered that zone so much that they would oftentimes

2084
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 2: go to A final four or make a deep tournament

2085
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 2: run out of. Nowhere and it's because during The Big

2086
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 2: east season they were going against teams that were familiar

2087
01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:27,360
Speaker 2: with what they did and saw it every. Year then

2088
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 2: they'd get into the tournament and all of a, sudden

2089
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 2: they're Facing TEXAS a AND m and Then Memphis state

2090
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: and Then indiana and then you KNOW, ucla and it's

2091
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 2: four teams that while you see it when you're flipping the,

2092
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 2: channels you've never been in the thick of it against

2093
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 2: that matchup, zone and it completely throws you out of

2094
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 2: kilter and so there was a difference between the way

2095
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 2: that they were able to compete within their conference and

2096
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 2: when they got out of the conference because of. Familiarity

2097
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 2: And purdue may well be right now battling with the

2098
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 2: strength of familiarity for their, opponent and that it may

2099
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 2: be as simple as. That it might also be that

2100
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: there are issues with you, know when you're around the

2101
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 2: same people and the same colleagues and the same teammates

2102
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: and the same, coworkers you can get along like. Brothers

2103
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 2: but brothers argue with each, other and siblings argue with each,

2104
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: other and you get on each other's nerves and you

2105
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:34,160
Speaker 2: just and it is it's easy to without even knowing,

2106
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: it go.

2107
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 1: Rogue it just, Is.

2108
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 2: EDDIE i thought it was pretty cool That zubos just

2109
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 2: called in and we weren't even necessarily expecting.

2110
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 1: It just boom there was, right all.

2111
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 3: Right it's WHAT i. DO i come through in the.

2112
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: Clutch did he say z when he called? In did

2113
01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 1: he say it's me z Uh?

2114
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 3: NO i was talking With Michael preston. BEFORE i didn't

2115
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 3: get the chance to introduce myself to A. Viza oh you.

2116
01:55:58,600 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 3: DIDN'T i did not know.

2117
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 1: Think he was offended WHEN i asked him the correct

2118
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: pronunciation of his.

2119
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 3: Name, NO i THINK i always think that athletes respect

2120
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 3: people that do. That just so that you're pronouncing the name.

2121
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 3: CORRECTLY i, MEAN i know you're very sensitive to.

2122
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: THAT i.

2123
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 2: Am and you know there have been AND i Know

2124
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 2: i've mentioned this, before there have been players that their

2125
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 2: name publicly is pronounced differently than the way that if

2126
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 2: you say to, them how do you pronounce your last?

2127
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: Name Tony kanaan would be a prime. EXAMPLE i mentioned.

2128
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 2: Before he Was Tony kanan growing, up and then he

2129
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: comes here and everybody says come, on so he just

2130
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 2: rolls with. It Mike vanderjat when he first came to.

2131
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 2: TOWN i Remember Ed. SORENSON i was working At channel

2132
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 2: six and we ran a sound bite from Vander jat

2133
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 2: Where Ed sorenson put his arm around him And Ed

2134
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 2: sorenson informs, it.

2135
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 1: Buddy if you were A christmas, party how would you introduce?

2136
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 2: Yourself he, said it's Voder jott V o n d

2137
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 2: e r J ot Voder, Jott but everybody said Vander

2138
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 2: jat and just. Stuck now He's mike Vanda. Jad BUT

2139
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 2: i can tell you when your last name is. Querry

2140
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 2: you're very sensitive to, it, right? Right what's your middle

2141
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 2: Initial EDDIE? T your parents your middle name should have

2142
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 2: been Like frank, really, yeah because then your initials would

2143
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 2: be sequential and that'd be, fun right REALLY efg kind

2144
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 2: of like Q. R those two letters go together and

2145
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 2: they roll off the tongue and the. Kids i'm hearing

2146
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 2: more and more of, it or just.

2147
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 3: The LETTER k that also?

2148
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: Work what's? That or just the LETTER k for? ME

2149
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: i know that, one, right?

2150
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah OR?

2151
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,080
Speaker 1: E but you know.

2152
01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 2: That YESTERDAY i WAS i was on the, street just walking,

2153
01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,920
Speaker 2: along and two guys were talking and somebody else DID

2154
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: i hear WHAT i THOUGHT i? Heard AND i heard

2155
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 2: a kid, say they're just speaking Q. R you, Are,

2156
01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 2: No i'm. Serious it's with the young. PEOPLE i wouldn't

2157
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 2: expect you to know this because it's with young. Kids

2158
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 2: but they're over the six seventh thing and all hipped

2159
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 2: to THE. Qr no.

2160
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 3: Seven things still the. THING i was helping time at

2161
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 3: The Kidder central last night for a middle school swim,

2162
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 3: meet AND i heard six seven way too many. Times,

2163
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 3: yeah it's not.

2164
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 1: Dead, no that's. No you know you're.

2165
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 2: Confused most of the better swimmers were in lane six or,

2166
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 2: Seven and so when they were reading off the, results

2167
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 2: they were saying, six, seventh you, know just in.

2168
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 3: Lanes you, know you don't understand the timing prowess THAT i, Have.

2169
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 3: Jake they had me in lane, six SO i WOULD

2170
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 3: i was where the fast swimmers.

2171
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Were, yeah see that's WHAT i.

2172
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 2: Mean and so they and then they were, saying so

2173
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 2: if you were you were timing lane, six, yeah, Yeah,

2174
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 2: see that's all you were hearing was they were. Asking

2175
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 2: they were reading it, off you, know lane, one time lane.

2176
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 2: Two so as they were reading it off there like,

2177
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 2: six and you'd say the like. Seven so you thought

2178
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 2: you were hearing six. Seven that's totally past. That oh, No,

2179
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 2: no you're the theme of the day has been about

2180
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 2: getting rid of the past and springing, forward and that's

2181
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:57,080
Speaker 2: what we're doing here in terms of springing forward with it.

2182
01:58:57,160 --> 01:59:02,240
Speaker 2: Right Stephen holder is WITH espn dot com And i'm

2183
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 2: sure thrilled to be joining THE Qr. Conversation, steven your

2184
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: hip to THE qr conversation are you? Not you just said, no, Break.

2185
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 1: NO i said.

2186
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 3: BREAK i meant to say, break AND i was meant

2187
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 3: to say you go to what you were.

2188
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 2: Saying you, said, no Break holder right now in my. Ear, well,

2189
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 2: yes get a wait. Too you know what you were

2190
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 2: you know what you were. Doing, no we didn't speaking IN.

2191
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 2: Qr we need you were trying to speak IN qr

2192
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 2: in need to Break, no but, improperly, RIGHT i mean

2193
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 2: you you were stuck on the six. Seven we got

2194
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 2: to get you up to speed on THE. Qr no Q,

2195
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:37,960
Speaker 2: R Steven, holder next little summer tunes all day long

2196
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 2: with the fifty four degree.

2197
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 3: Heat, right that's a heat, Wave.

2198
01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 2: Jake you, Know i'm a little uncomfortable with your, speedo

2199
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 2: but other than.

2200
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 3: That wearing a, Speedo i'm Not Kevin. Bowen, Okay, okay.

2201
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: It is nice, out is it? Not it's very nice.

2202
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 2: Outside, YES i join us, now And i'm sure thrilled

2203
01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 2: to be doing. So based on that, introduction he's on

2204
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 2: The java house peeling poor guest. Line you read his

2205
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 2: work AT espn dot. Com Steven holder joining, Us, Stephen

2206
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 2: i'd like to know, this when the first taste of

2207
02:00:05,960 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 2: spring hits you and you're driving, around even though we

2208
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 2: know this is a false spring at this, point what

2209
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 2: song do you put on the radio and turn up

2210
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 2: and roll the windows.

2211
02:00:15,120 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 5: Down, WELL i want to start by, SAYING i am

2212
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 5: glad we are doing this remotely and not in the

2213
02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 5: studio based on what you just laid out. There that's,

2214
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 5: right speedos and the whole. Nine SO i don't know

2215
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 5: what's going.

2216
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:29,839
Speaker 3: On Happening, Steve and he's lying.

2217
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 5: Spring is too early for a, speedo THOUGH i would, say.

2218
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 2: Is there any time that It's is there any time

2219
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 2: where it's not too early or late for a?

2220
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 1: SPEEDO i, mean let's be let's be real here.

2221
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 5: That that is. True that is. True, SEE i got

2222
02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 5: there's a lot of summer. Songs what's the spring? SONG

2223
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 5: i don't.

2224
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 2: KNOW a spring song is one that that makes you

2225
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,520
Speaker 2: feel like it's, summer, RIGHT i guess you know WHAT i.

2226
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 5: Mean, yes, YES i don't. Know that's a great. QUESTION

2227
02:00:58,480 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 5: i got you hit, me hit me left field in this.

2228
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 5: ONE i gotta think about. It BUT i would SAY

2229
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 5: i would, say, hmm, yeah all the songs that mentioned

2230
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 5: summertime you can't use because it's not. Summer so let's

2231
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 5: circle back later in this segment BECAUSE i am, LIKE

2232
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 5: i don't. KNOW i THINK i turned my brain off

2233
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 5: in the, offseason so bear with, me.

2234
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:24,440
Speaker 2: Fair, Enough, Okay, Well jakes is never, On so that is,

2235
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 2: correct all, Right i'm gonna begin with this, Question. Stephen

2236
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 2: this time a year, AGO i think we would have

2237
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 2: been surprised if we would have looked into a crystal

2238
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:34,840
Speaker 2: ball and seen that The Seattle seahawks would be The

2239
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,200
Speaker 2: Super bowl. Champions but it all came together for. Them

2240
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 2: give me two franchises that right now you look at and,

2241
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 2: say they may not have been overwhelming in the twenty

2242
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 2: twenty five season heading into twenty six, offseason but they

2243
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 2: could be next Year's Seattle.

2244
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:52,760
Speaker 1: Seahawks give me. Two SO.

2245
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:59,640
Speaker 5: I don't know IF i completely believe, this but The

2246
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:03,880
Speaker 5: carol Of, panthers there's something, There Like i'm looking for

2247
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 5: a non obvious, one you, know because we were not

2248
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 5: we wouldn't pick them right, now, Right BUT i think

2249
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 5: if they if they could do what say The patriots,

2250
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 5: did which is like really retool that thing with free,

2251
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 5: agency they have some good pieces. Already they have a,

2252
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:25,960
Speaker 5: quarterback you, know, baby. RIGHT i don't know THAT i

2253
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,480
Speaker 5: believe in, them but who? Knows right that would be a.

2254
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 5: Team it would take a big, leap but there's a

2255
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:37,400
Speaker 5: basis of something. THERE i was gonna Say, jacksonville BUT

2256
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,839
Speaker 5: i don't think that would be like, stunning right because

2257
02:02:39,880 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 5: they have definitely a good foundation going on. There So

2258
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,400
Speaker 5: i'm gonna say, No i'm gonna leave them out of this.

2259
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 5: Conversation let's. SEE i think The Atlanta falcons have a

2260
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 5: lot of, Talent, okay BUT i DON'T i. DON'T i

2261
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 5: don't know what the quarterback. SITUATION i just don't feel

2262
02:03:00,920 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 5: great about the quarterback. Situation BUT i think they.

2263
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 9: Have a lot of.

2264
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 5: Talent they have great running, back they have great skill

2265
02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 5: talent on, offense they have some pieces on. Defense why

2266
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 5: can't they take another? STEP i don't. Know SO i

2267
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:17,640
Speaker 5: don't know those are wild, picks BUT i think both

2268
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,360
Speaker 5: of These Super bowl entrants this year would have been

2269
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:21,160
Speaker 5: wild picks a year.

2270
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 2: Ago so, anyway you, Know eddie mentioned in my ear

2271
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 2: and this might be a year, premature but will get your,

2272
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:35,080
Speaker 2: Thoughts Stephen. Holder could The Tennessee titans and Cam ward

2273
02:03:35,800 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 2: be next Year's New England.

2274
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:45,280
Speaker 5: SO i would say. THIS i saw more From Drake

2275
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:49,320
Speaker 5: may as a rookie THAN i did from Cam ward

2276
02:03:49,920 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 5: as a. ROOKIE i Think Drake may was better as

2277
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 5: a rookie his first, year BUT i do think Cam

2278
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 5: ward is their. Guy whether he can be as good

2279
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 5: As Drake may was with a better supporting cast around.

2280
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 5: HIM i don't Know Drake may's supporting. Cast his rookie

2281
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 5: year was, awful to be completely, honest and he rose

2282
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 5: above it AND i thought established himself as as a franchise.

2283
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 5: Quarterback their roster was terrible a year. Ago it really

2284
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 5: is a remarkable. Turnaround but, ANYHOW i do think maybe

2285
02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 5: you're right about that a year or two early. There

2286
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:29,480
Speaker 5: but they they have some picks to work. With they

2287
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 5: have they have some some pieces that they can work.

2288
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 5: With you, know we'll. See AND i love their coaching,

2289
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 5: Staff like love that coaching staff that they're going to

2290
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:41,840
Speaker 5: be really well.

2291
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: Coached stephen is there a?

2292
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Team Stephen holder is my, Guest Java House peel and

2293
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 2: poor guest line seattle to. Me you, know they were

2294
02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:55,560
Speaker 2: so stout defensively and they disrupted so Much Drake. May

2295
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 2: and that's what they did throughout the course of the.

2296
02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 2: YEAR i, mean their front four was just flat. Nasty

2297
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 2: what team out there has the youth on a defensive

2298
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 2: line that if it all comes, together you could blink

2299
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 2: your eyes and go. Wow they are fast and. Furious.

2300
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 5: Hmm let's. See so thinking about, THIS i, mean we Know,

2301
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 5: houston but they've they've already been. ESTABLISHED i don't. THINK

2302
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 5: i don't think that's, like you, know a future projection

2303
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 5: that's already. ESTABLISHED i would say this is an interesting.

2304
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 1: ONE i, mean there's been enough.

2305
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:42,640
Speaker 2: Investment here's WHY i, ask there's been enough investment From

2306
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 2: Chris ballard from The indianapolis standpoint that you, know Could

2307
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 2: leatu suddenly take a step and then, boom all of a,

2308
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 2: sudden now you've got something If buckner gets one last

2309
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 2: real push it Things or are we at the point

2310
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 2: of simply saying The colts have set around and talked

2311
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 2: about it for ten years and we just now have

2312
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 2: to admit that it's not an area they're very, strong all.

2313
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:10,200
Speaker 5: Right so this is this is a good. CONVERSATION i

2314
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 5: think the let's go To seattle for. Example look At.

2315
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:17,880
Speaker 5: SEATTLE i don't think it's really individual pieces on that.

2316
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 5: DEFENSE i think it's the sum is greater than the

2317
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 5: parts on that. Defense like who's the star player on that.

2318
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 5: Defense there's a couple guys who are kind of named.

2319
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 5: GUYS i think that's. Fair but but there's no you,

2320
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 5: know they don't have you Know Von miller in his.

2321
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 5: Prime they don't Have Miles. Garrett they don't have that

2322
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 5: type of. Guy they have a collection of, guys AND

2323
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 5: i do think The colts will probably need to approach

2324
02:06:44,320 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 5: it that. WAY i, mean they have some, stars Like

2325
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 5: Sauce gardner is a star, player there's no question about.

2326
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 5: That they have a couple guys who are maybe in

2327
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 5: the upper levels of their. Position you, know can't buy

2328
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 5: them really good. Safety BUT i BUT i think more

2329
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 5: so if they're going to be a good defense at this,

2330
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 5: point particularly given The Forrest buckner's, age because he can't

2331
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 5: be for the most, part he can't be you know

2332
02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 5: that that that you, know prime twenty five year old

2333
02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:16,920
Speaker 5: To Forest buckner. Anymore so you're going to have to do.

2334
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,440
Speaker 5: THIS i think like thee like The seahawks, have which

2335
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 5: is COLLECTIVELY i don't have a problem with. IT i

2336
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 5: think that's the way to do. It but you've got

2337
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,000
Speaker 5: to draft really, well you've got to hit in free,

2338
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 5: agency and it's all got to come. TOGETHER i think

2339
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 5: that's the roadmap for The, colts and maybe they can

2340
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 5: pull that off because they don't HAVE i meant Two

2341
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 5: latsu could be a guy who takes that next step

2342
02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 5: THAT i do agree, with BUT i also don't know

2343
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 5: if that singularly is. ENOUGH i, mean you need a

2344
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,920
Speaker 5: collection of, guys And seattle is a great, BLUEPRINT i

2345
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 5: think for a lot of teams out. There if you

2346
02:07:51,720 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 5: maybe don't have the star the high level stars of.

2347
02:07:55,800 --> 02:08:00,680
Speaker 2: Defense give me a, Name steven of somebody on The

2348
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 2: colts roster right, now not Named Michael. Pittman it is

2349
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:08,879
Speaker 2: contractually bound to play next. Year yet it wouldn't surprise

2350
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:10,720
Speaker 2: you at all if we find out that The colts

2351
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 2: have moved on from.

2352
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 5: Them, hmm so this would this would surprise me, Maybe

2353
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 5: BUT i think we have to at least put it out.

2354
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:34,400
Speaker 5: There uh you, know Zire. Franklin, YEP i. DON'T i

2355
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:36,280
Speaker 5: don't think it's gonna. Happen, okay let me be. Clear

2356
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:40,840
Speaker 5: don't don't nobody go post on a blog THAT i

2357
02:08:40,920 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 5: said this is. HAPPENING i don't think it's. Happening BUT

2358
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 5: i think if we're for the purposes of this, CONVERSATION

2359
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 5: i think you're gonna have to retool that. Defense, Right

2360
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,080
Speaker 5: they will retool that, DEFENSE i think more than people. Realize,

2361
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 5: uh just because they.

2362
02:08:56,040 --> 02:08:56,440
Speaker 9: Kind of have.

2363
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:59,760
Speaker 5: To AND i Think Chris ballard talking at the end

2364
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 5: of the season about needing to get you, know more

2365
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 5: athletic and faster on. DEFENSE i think that says maybe

2366
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 5: they have to rethink some of. THIS i think you

2367
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 5: can do that and maybe not part ways with the

2368
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 5: only real viable linebacker you even, have because let's be,

2369
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 5: honest they don't have any linebackers on this. Team SO

2370
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 5: i think that works In zaire's. Favor but you, know

2371
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 5: there's the. Money there's the fact that he is not

2372
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:30,640
Speaker 5: one of those you, know speed speed type guys that

2373
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,680
Speaker 5: he is, Seeking Chris ballad is, seeking you. Know so

2374
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,520
Speaker 5: there's a couple of factors there that would at least

2375
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 5: make that a possible. Conversation DO i think it's gonna. Happen,

2376
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 5: No but if you're asking me for a surprise, guy

2377
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 5: that would be somebody that comes To.

2378
02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:46,240
Speaker 2: It feels to, Me, steven and you tell me If

2379
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:51,000
Speaker 2: i'm off, base it feels to me Like Zire. Franklin

2380
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 2: of the players of, productivity and he has been. Productive

2381
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 2: of the players of, Productivity Zire franklin may be the

2382
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 2: one who's product activity is most easily replicated by perhaps

2383
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 2: someone that is less.

2384
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:07,880
Speaker 5: Expensive, Okay now that's a fair, point AND i think

2385
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 5: that's because the position, correct it's not personal Towards Zire. Franklin.

2386
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:15,120
Speaker 1: Correct think it's a system. Position.

2387
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:18,840
Speaker 5: Right, reality it's the reality of linebacker in the l.

2388
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 5: RIGHT i mean they are eminently, replaceable not, him just linebackers.

2389
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:28,480
Speaker 5: Generally you, KNOW i think there are there are a

2390
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 5: handful of guys out there who are who are certainly

2391
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 5: very difficult to. Replace BUT i would say most, teams

2392
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 5: in a moment of, honesty most executives would probably tell,

2393
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,480
Speaker 5: you IF i had to find somebody that's replaceable on my,

2394
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 5: defense linebackers probably where they, start you, know because they

2395
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:50,560
Speaker 5: have that position has just taken on less importance over

2396
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 5: the years with the way offenses are matchup. Based you,

2397
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 5: know when you're when you're looking for a good, matchup

2398
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:00,400
Speaker 5: you're matching up on a linebacker, today you. Know so

2399
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 5: it's almost that position is almost to your to your

2400
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,640
Speaker 5: detriment if you're playing them too. Much so, YEAH i

2401
02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:08,000
Speaker 5: THINK i think you're right about.

2402
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:08,160
Speaker 9: That.

2403
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 2: Stephen what's the latest upcoming FROM espn dot com or

2404
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 2: things that you will be working?

2405
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:19,200
Speaker 5: On SO i DID i did foul a story? TODAY

2406
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 5: i DON'T i don't know when we'll publish, it but

2407
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:25,120
Speaker 5: this week On Anthony richardson and JUST i think it's

2408
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:30,480
Speaker 5: just a good time for what's next story About richardson

2409
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 5: because that's a big question AND i think there's a

2410
02:11:33,640 --> 02:11:37,000
Speaker 5: lot of questions. THERE i think he plays somewhere else next. Season,

2411
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 5: personally that is my. PREDICTION i don't know that It's Exton.

2412
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 5: Stone nobody's requested a trade That i'm aware of as of,

2413
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 5: now BUT i think the indicators for me at least

2414
02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 5: are that he's probably going to be somewhere.

2415
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:55,000
Speaker 2: Else pick it right, now just throw it out there right.

2416
02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 2: Now the franchise he'll be playing for is who Go

2417
02:11:58,160 --> 02:11:58,640
Speaker 2: boom go.

2418
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:04,120
Speaker 5: AH i, MEAN i, mean completely, unscientific without any real

2419
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 5: deep thought on. It, MINNESOTA i don't, Know, Okay, eddie

2420
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:12,360
Speaker 5: they certainly have an unstable quarterback, situation, right let's put

2421
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:12,640
Speaker 5: it that.

2422
02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:14,440
Speaker 3: Way, steve AND i THOUGHT i was about to hit

2423
02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:16,520
Speaker 3: the dumplet in there for a. SECOND i would also

2424
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:19,400
Speaker 3: go With. Minnesota keep in Mind Ryan griggson.

2425
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 2: THERE i think they're going to make a Push Daniel

2426
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 2: jones just BECAUSE i think it could be a, saucy sexy.

2427
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:26,320
Speaker 1: Story it would be it would, be wouldn't.

2428
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:34,280
Speaker 2: It i'll go With i'm gonna go with The New Orleans, saints.

2429
02:12:32,560 --> 02:12:36,280
Speaker 5: Not, bad not. BAD i Think arizona's an interesting.

2430
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:38,200
Speaker 1: Sitting, Yeah arizona. Too, yeah.

2431
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 5: You, KNOW i don't, know BUT i.

2432
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:43,400
Speaker 1: Think, hell let's go With. Cleveland let's go With.

2433
02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 2: Cleveland let's bring on all the dumpster, fire, right let's

2434
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 2: go With.

2435
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:51,520
Speaker 5: Cleveland sure he's in the same range as IN qbr

2436
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 5: as their.

2437
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 1: Quarterback that's.

2438
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 5: Right, hey, YEAH i.

2439
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Speaker 2: Don't say that too, loudly people get. Upset steven appreciated

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Speaker 1: ONE i, noticed by the, Way, EDDIE i just noticed it.

2449
02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 3: Too has it been like that the entire?

2450
02:13:23,240 --> 02:13:26,760
Speaker 1: SHOW i don't think, so But i've switched it.

2451
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:28,360
Speaker 2: Over we can do this now with the, CROSSOVER i

2452
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:31,080
Speaker 2: can officially switch it TO j AND b in the background, Here,

2453
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:35,480
Speaker 2: john you just actually gave me a bit of information

2454
02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:38,240
Speaker 2: that got me super, excited and THEN i looked something

2455
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 2: up and Now i'm super.

2456
02:13:39,200 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 12: Bummed oh was it The garcia's PiZZ in the?

2457
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Speaker 7: Pan?

2458
02:13:43,400 --> 02:13:43,879
Speaker 5: No?

2459
02:13:43,880 --> 02:13:45,440
Speaker 12: No was It Johnny?

2460
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:47,720
Speaker 1: Soco? No april.

2461
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:52,800
Speaker 2: Nineteenth Thomas dolby at The vogue On april. NINETEENTH i

2462
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:57,680
Speaker 2: would be there so, fast get a race Long, beach

2463
02:13:57,760 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 2: WHICH i love being In Long, beach but YOU i

2464
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 2: would love to see. THAT i might have to see

2465
02:14:01,960 --> 02:14:02,480
Speaker 2: where else he's.

2466
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:04,480
Speaker 1: Playing is he? Doing does he do like a? TOUR i?

2467
02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 12: Think but this is going to be one and this

2468
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:09,000
Speaker 12: is a guy that doesn't do MUCH i, know so

2469
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 12: that's WHY i want To it's like The fix last.

2470
02:14:11,280 --> 02:14:13,560
Speaker 12: Year you JUST i try to pick out those that

2471
02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:16,600
Speaker 12: don't do. Much Todd meyer made a great point about

2472
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 12: it'd be great to See Gary numan do this, too

2473
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 12: of Cars, fame because you just never get the opportunity

2474
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:25,480
Speaker 12: to see these. Guys but, Yeah Thomas dolby at The.

2475
02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:30,480
Speaker 12: Vogue jake coming up In april and that match to

2476
02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:32,960
Speaker 12: over that, Too, NO i, SEE i want to See

2477
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:35,520
Speaker 12: madness big. Time they had such a great. Catalog if

2478
02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:37,080
Speaker 12: they also In, america doesn't.

2479
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 2: Know because they were a ska band, before you know

2480
02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:40,680
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean before they were doing what they?

2481
02:14:40,720 --> 02:14:44,280
Speaker 1: Did? Uh what's lined up on the big? Show Love?

2482
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:47,280
Speaker 12: LOVE i can sing that boy Got chad Bu cannon

2483
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:49,240
Speaker 12: is going to call IN i think a little bit

2484
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 12: later ON.

2485
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:51,000
Speaker 3: I want to ask him.

2486
02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:53,920
Speaker 12: This you think they have TED wu working on BECAUSE

2487
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:55,880
Speaker 12: i know they have the draft simulator and the odds

2488
02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:58,760
Speaker 12: simulators all over the. Internet you think they're running numbers

2489
02:14:58,760 --> 02:15:01,520
Speaker 12: on one through four and what it's going to, take how,

2490
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:03,520
Speaker 12: bad how much you have to lose to end up

2491
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:04,440
Speaker 12: securing one through?

2492
02:15:04,440 --> 02:15:06,960
Speaker 1: FOUR i think they absolutely are looking at. It this.

2493
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:10,880
Speaker 12: Trade this trade is not going to be close if

2494
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:14,160
Speaker 12: you don't get one through. Four to, me there's no

2495
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:16,800
Speaker 12: way it's going to live up to anybody's. EXPECTATION i

2496
02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 12: WILL i will disagree on. THAT i think the one

2497
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:21,360
Speaker 12: through four is the gravy of it they. DO i

2498
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 12: think Getting zubots because of his, contract notably it's a friendly.

2499
02:15:25,200 --> 02:15:29,720
Speaker 12: Contract the problem that you have With zubots is you

2500
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,320
Speaker 12: don't know how he is going to function within how

2501
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:33,120
Speaker 12: they want to.

2502
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:33,640
Speaker 1: PLAY i, mean.

2503
02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 2: Undoubtedly and he called in earlier today and said that

2504
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:39,840
Speaker 2: he thinks that he can play a faster pace and

2505
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:41,400
Speaker 2: do more of what they, want and that he didn't

2506
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:45,040
Speaker 2: get opportunity to do that IN. LA i, mean we'll, see, Right, listen,

2507
02:15:45,160 --> 02:15:47,800
Speaker 2: listen we don't, know there's no, question and how he

2508
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:49,440
Speaker 2: works With siakam is going to be.

2509
02:15:49,440 --> 02:15:50,080
Speaker 1: Interesting as well.

2510
02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 12: Well and here's the difference between when everybody wants to

2511
02:15:53,160 --> 02:15:55,360
Speaker 12: And Rick carlisle did this last week. Too you want

2512
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 12: to judge what you get In zubots between what you

2513
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:00,600
Speaker 12: get In. Miles we didn't See, miles and you saw this.

2514
02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:03,680
Speaker 12: Often miles would not even try to go after the.

2515
02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:05,960
Speaker 12: Board he would already start down the other. End And

2516
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:08,080
Speaker 12: zubots is going to be planned and they're trying to

2517
02:16:08,120 --> 02:16:10,600
Speaker 12: get so that means he's going to have to sprint

2518
02:16:10,640 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 12: the floor every. TIME i just think that that is

2519
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:15,480
Speaker 12: a different. Dynamic AND i agree with, you he is

2520
02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 12: talented enough and adds a dimension to this.

2521
02:16:17,640 --> 02:16:18,480
Speaker 1: Team but we haven't.

2522
02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:22,040
Speaker 12: Seen but if you're not able to keep up the,

2523
02:16:22,080 --> 02:16:24,080
Speaker 12: pace because we all say we want to play at this,

2524
02:16:24,160 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 12: pace very few are capable of doing. It it has

2525
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:29,920
Speaker 12: to be. Seen AND i just think one through. FOUR

2526
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:32,080
Speaker 12: i don't think it's the. GRAVY i think this is

2527
02:16:32,120 --> 02:16:34,960
Speaker 12: a have. To you Gave mather it up in this.

2528
02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:36,680
Speaker 12: DEAL i think it's a have to to get one

2529
02:16:36,720 --> 02:16:37,240
Speaker 12: through four on.

2530
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:38,920
Speaker 1: This we talked To zubots.

2531
02:16:38,959 --> 02:16:41,280
Speaker 2: Earlier he called in the program at one o'clock hour

2532
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:44,640
Speaker 2: that is going to be available on the fan. Website

2533
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:46,879
Speaker 2: we asked that you listen to it after six pm

2534
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:49,400
Speaker 2: the night Because john's up. Next he'll bring you home until.

2535
02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:51,959
Speaker 2: Six we will Recap breaking The basking. Tomorrow, yep what

2536
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:53,440
Speaker 2: happened to? Crossover it's your?

2537
02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:53,720
Speaker 1: Turn.

2538
02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:57,280
Speaker 2: Huh i'm handing it over right. Now, wow you feel

2539
02:16:57,320 --> 02:16:58,520
Speaker 2: That i'm.

2540
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:01,520
Speaker 1: Handing you the baton of. It john's up back sixlist

2541
02:17:01,520 --> 02:17:02,320
Speaker 1: In Aquary company