1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from ball, Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. You try to fight our entire shop, 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: you try to person version. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Well, my personal emails are my personal business, right, So 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I so we went through a painstaking process and turned 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: over fifty five thousand pages of. 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: Anything we thought could be work related. Under the law 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: that decision is made by the official. I was the official. 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 3: I made those decisions. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Do what like with a cloth or something? 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: Well, no, I don't know how it works digitally at all. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: I do not have any. 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: And I know you want to make a point, and 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: I can just repeat what I have said. In order 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: in order to be as cooperative as possible, we have 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: turned over the server. They can do whatever they want 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: to with the server to figure out what's there, what's 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: not there. 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: That's Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. Why in the world 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: am I going into the wayback machine to hear Hillary 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Clinton lie about her server that she's set up to 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: be able to send out communications outside of the purview 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: of house oversight. Because that's always what it was from 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: beginning to end. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 25 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: be with you. This comes up because the Senate Judiciary 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Committee headed up by Chuck Grassley has put out information. 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: This information as we see it, This information from Grassley 28 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: newly declassified DOJ watchdog report shows FBI cut corners in 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: the Clinton email investigation. Remember that it was James Comy 30 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: who said, what I can assure the American people is 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: that this investigation into Hillary Clinton's home brew server was 32 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: kind was brought to bear, and this was supposed to 34 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: put an end to the entirety of the conversation. Remember 35 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: it is the left contention that we should be thanking 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: James Comy for engaging an investigation to begin with, and 37 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: that's what led to Hillary Clinton's downfall, until, of course, 38 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: they were able to move the messages of the intelligence 39 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: community out of the Presidential Daily Brief and insert their 40 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: own messages of Russia, Russia, Russia, never mind the fever 41 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: dreams of Hillary Clinton and working with Perkins Coy the 42 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: law firm, and others to create the Steele dossier, etc. 43 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: The report states that Komy's FBI failed to fully investigate 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server and miss 45 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: handling of highly classified information during her time as Secretary 46 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: of State. This is being referred to We talked about 47 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: the declassifying of the appendix. Well, it's a referred to 48 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: as the Clinton Annex, and I've got it like I'm 49 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: staring at it from Chuck Grassley's site, Office of the 50 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Inspector General US Department of Justice, a Review of various 51 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: actions by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Justice in advance of the twenty sixteen election. Appendix one. 53 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: It's thirty five pages and you can go through and 54 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: there are things redacted from it. For sure, there are 55 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: things that redacted. I don't mind certain levels of redaction. 56 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: But the story goes that the DOJ's Office of the 57 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Inspector General and Dananax shows the FBI obtained thumb drives 58 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: from a source during the Clinton administration Clinton investigation, but 59 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: then FBI Director James Comey, as well as then Deputy 60 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI Special Agent Peter Strock, 61 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: you remember all the names and others, failed to perform 62 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: additional targeted searches of the drives, even though they contained 63 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: information relevant to the inquiry. The OIG report illustrates that 64 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: the FBI failed too thoroughly and completely investigate the Clinton 65 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: matter as a result, as well as the serious national 66 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: security risks created by Clinton's careless handling of highly classified information. 67 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: There were thumb drives. You didn't take a look? Why not? 68 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: Why in the world would you allow this? This has 69 00:04:54,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: now been declassified because of Pambondi, the Attorney General. Under 70 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: Comey's leadership, says Chuck Grassley, the FBI failed to perform 71 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: fundamental investigative work and left key pieces of evidence on 72 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. Yes, is there any question. Well, 73 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: if there's a question and you think that this is 74 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: political somehow, let me take you again to the wayback machine. 75 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: I go back to October seventeenth, twenty sixteen, little more 76 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: than a month before the election. FBI agents say the 77 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: Bureau is alarmed over Director James Comy urging the Justice 78 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: Department not to prosecute Hillary Clinton over her mishandling of 79 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: classified documents. According to an interview transcript given to The 80 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Daily Caller provided by an intermediary who spoke to two 81 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: federal agents with the Bureau last Friday, agents are frustrated 82 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: by Comey's leadership. Is the quote. This is a textbook 83 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: case where a grand jury should have convened but was not. 84 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: That is appalling. We talk about it in the office 85 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: and don't know how Komy can keep going. This was 86 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: reporting from Kerry Pickett twenty sixteen Daily Caller when she 87 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: was with the Daily Caller and now with the Washington 88 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Times as she is their White House reporter. We spoke 89 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: to her just last week the reporting then we didn't 90 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: search their house. We always search the house. The search 91 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: should not just have been for private electronics which contain 92 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: classified material, but even for printouts to such material. There 93 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: should have been a complete search of their residence. That 94 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the FBI did not seize devices is unbelievable. The FBI 95 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: even sees the devices that have been set on fire. 96 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: Another special agent working for the bureau that were counter 97 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: terrorism said he's offended by Komy, saying, we and I've 98 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: been an event investigator, how much more do we need 99 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: to know, need to see, need to look at? How 100 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: much more do we need to witness about these so 101 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: called leaders and the work they did to undercut you 102 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and me at every single turn. I have said this 103 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: numerous times. Everything that you are witnessing, everything that you 104 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: are seeing. You think it's about Trump, or they think 105 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: it's about Trump. Maybe you got it well understood by now. 106 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Maybe some people don't allow me. It was never, ever, ever, 107 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: ever about Trump, and it's always been about you. These 108 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: are radical, radical ideologues. These are dangerous people who believe 109 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: in you not having a say, you not having a voice, 110 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: you not being allowed to have your voice heard. They 111 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: will move heaven and earth to ensure that your vote 112 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: is mitigated, your vote is pushed to the side, that 113 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: you never get the policies you want. And they'll do 114 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: it with lies, and they'll do it with deception, and 115 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: they'll do it with indictments, and they'll do it with fraud, 116 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: and they'll do it with judge shopping. They'll do anything. 117 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Their people. Their people always get a pass. Your people, 118 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Your people are the most dangerous people on planet Earth. 119 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: It's why your parents are actually domestic terrorists. You want 120 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: to actually pay attention to what's going on at school 121 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: board meeting, Only a domestic terrorists would do that. Well, 122 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: what about those other parents, Those are the good parents. 123 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: We've determined that those are the good parents and they 124 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: have rights, and you're the bad parents, and you're lucky 125 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: we allow you to keep your knee caps. That's what 126 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: this is. That's what every part of this is. And 127 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: we have known this. It's twenty sixteen, its twenty twelve, 128 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: nine years, nine years we have known this to be 129 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: the case. We have known that these are the lowest 130 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: of people, the liars and the frauds. Now you see it. 131 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Now you see it, You're you're aware of it. Now 132 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: we know the depths of how far these things go. 133 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: And the only question is what are we going to 134 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: do about it? Now? I have been making the argument 135 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: that election day is November third, twenty twenty six and 136 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: you got to vote. I want to make sure that 137 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: you understand my levels of disgust. What I want to do, Oh, 138 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: what I want to do? Oh, these low life scumback, 139 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: these are the worst human beings. I didn't know you 140 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: could be this duplicitous. I didn't know you could be 141 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: this evil. I didn't know you could be this terrible. 142 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: Yet there they are teaching us exactly how awful one 143 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: can be. What I want to do, I don't condone it, 144 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't support it. I feel it. But that's a 145 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: difference between us and them, isn't it. That's the difference 146 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: between people who want to live in a civil society 147 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: and people who want the anarchy. That's the difference between 148 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: being rational and irrational. I once got asked if there 149 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: was a chance if somebody had the ability to save 150 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: your kid, and they wouldn't give you that ability to 151 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: save your kid, what would you do? And the answer 152 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: is I'd kill them. And people looked at me like 153 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: I had nine heads, And my question out loud was 154 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: how couldn't no one else have the same response. Well, 155 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: because that's not how you run a society, I said, 156 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about society. You asked me about what 157 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: I would do for my kid. You asked me what 158 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: I would do for my kid, and I gave the 159 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: honest answer. And these people refuse to accept that very 160 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: very true nature of self. They somehow believed that they 161 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: were above it, or have some have been so conditioned 162 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: that they should never ever put themselves in such a 163 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: place that they couldn't even admit in the hypothetical. And 164 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: it's all hypothetical, because who knows how people are going 165 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: to react once the bullet is fired. That's what they 166 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: say about battle plans, right. Battle plans mean nothing. They 167 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: go out the window once the first bullet is fired. 168 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: You never know how people are going to react. You 169 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: don't know how your army is going to be able 170 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: to move, You don't know if you're plan is going 171 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: to be successful. Plans get morphed and changed. When you 172 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: see the blood, things do change. I don't know. I'd 173 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: like to believe that I would do anything for my kids, 174 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: and I mean it. Society would be right in holding 175 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: me accountable. I never once say that that shouldn't be 176 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: the case in this situation. I believe that the country 177 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: was put at risk by these people. I believe that 178 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: individuals will put at risk by these people. But I 179 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: would never condone and I would never support any harm 180 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't come through the judicial system. Whether they should 181 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: be tried, they're innocent, will proven guilty, the fact shown 182 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: and a decision made. That's how it has to happen 183 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: in a society that wants to thrive. Because if we 184 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: are a society and that says, let's just go about 185 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: doing damage to those we believe did us wrong, and 186 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: certainly we have proof of did us wrong, they'll do 187 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: the same. And that is not a society that thrives 188 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: how I deal with my children. Think about my children? 189 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: Now you think about your children? By the way, people 190 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: get shocked by that honest answer. I know you're with me, 191 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I know you are for your kid. What would you 192 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: do right? That conversation is happening a billion times. You 193 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: have to accept the fact that there are repercussions to actions, 194 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: and there have to be repercussions to the actions. The 195 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: repercussion just has to fall within the guidelines of the law. 196 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: But we don't end it there. We end it with 197 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: election day as November three, that's the midterms, and these 198 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: people have to lose so that the investigations can continue 199 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: and then prosecution. Hillary Clinton is a terrible person and 200 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: a terrible example to women. And anybody who raised their 201 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: daughter to say to look at Hillary Clinton as a 202 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: role model raised their daughter in a terrible, awful way. 203 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: I don't care if she's a good grandma. I don't 204 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: want to hear a damn thing from Chelsea Clinton. Your 205 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: mother is awful. James Comy is not a good man. 206 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: I would never raise my sons to say look up 207 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: to James Comy. That's the kind of man you want 208 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: to be. James Comy is a weak beta, a guy 209 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: who lied, a guy who manipulated, and a guy who 210 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: went caught doing something stupid like turning seashells into a 211 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: message about assassination of Donald Trump said, well is my 212 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: wife's idea? All good, lord, that's that's what all women 213 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: dream of, a guy who will sell them out the 214 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: minute the social media pressure gets to be a little 215 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: too hot. These aren't good people. They're terrible people, and 216 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: their reputations should take the hit, and history should be 217 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: very very unkind to them. Let us write the history books, 218 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: not them. Let us tell the truth, do not let 219 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: them whitewash it. And know the people who support them, 220 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the people who have endeared themselves to them, the people 221 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: who want to protect them, the people who actually think 222 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: these people have legacy. Cannot be allowed to win elections. 223 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: And that's how it's done, never mind their own personal 224 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: animis and disgust and yes, outright anger. There is a 225 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: way these things are done. If you want to have 226 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: a country of any value at all, these people cannot 227 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: win election. Ever. Election day is November third, twenty twenty sixth. 228 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Make sure they lose. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. 229 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Today can I just play a little bit more of 230 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's intervie. You who let this guy do an interview? 231 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Then again, why didn't I think of asking him for 232 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: an interview. I didn't know it could be this amazing. 233 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I had no idea he would so much lose his mind. 234 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Now the only thing I'm not playing is Hunter explaining 235 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to people how to make crack Tony Katz Tony Kats 236 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: today good to be with you, I won't do it. 237 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: I won't have any part of it whatsoever, because, like 238 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: I know, if I play that, I know if I 239 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: share that, man, I am gonna I am gonna get 240 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: lambasted for it. Oh my god, what a thing to 241 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: share on the air. What kind of person are you? No, No, 242 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: let me share this instead the whole Hunter talking about 243 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: George Clooney. 244 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: Him, Kim, him and everybody around him. I don't have 245 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: to be nice. Number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino 246 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: and George Clooney is not an actor. He is a 247 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: like I don't know what he is. He's a brand. 248 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 4: And by the way, and God bless him, you know what. 249 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: He fuzzily treats his friends really well, you know what 250 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: I mean, buys them things, and he's got a really 251 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with 252 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: Barack Obama. You what do you have to do with anything? 253 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Why do I have. 254 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: To listen to you? What right do you have to 255 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: step on a man who's given fifty two years of 256 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: his life to the service of this country and decide 257 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: that you, George Clooney, are going to take out basically 258 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: a full page ad in the New York Times to 259 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: me and James Carville, who hasn't run a race in 260 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 4: forty years, and David Axelrod, who had one success in 261 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: his political life in that Oh my. 262 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: God, by the way, do you know how hard that 263 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: editing was. I got carpal tunnel syndrome from doing all 264 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: that editing. Who holy mackerel, ain't that something? And it 265 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: just goes on and on and on and on. Just 266 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: take punching at progressives, bam pow bing, just the anger, 267 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: the witch, all every part of it, by the way, 268 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: anger and vitriol, classic Biden family trade. 269 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: That was Barack Obama. And that was because of Barack Obama, 270 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: not because of David actual Rot and David Pluff and 271 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: all of these guys in the pod save America. Guys 272 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: who were junior speech writers in you know, on Barack 273 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: Obama's Senate staff. 274 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Who by the way, the guys from Pod Save America 275 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: all they're they're not they're not taking this sitting down. No, 276 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: oh no, they're so angry. The Barack boys. Oh Tommy Vitor, 277 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: that beta male and oh no no, I'm not a 278 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan. These guys who never met an 279 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Iranian nuclear deal, they didn't like they are coming right 280 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: back at Hunter. 281 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: We're not talking about like whether a loved one can 282 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 5: live alone anymore. We're talking about running the country. What 283 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: are you talking about? What about the capacity to communicate 284 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 5: what you're going to do as president? 285 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Also, like, just seeing this today, I guess what I wanted. 286 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: If I was in a room with him and able 287 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: to talk rationally, I'd just be like, hey, man, look 288 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 5: around the world. Look at what's happening in this country 289 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: right now. Like, I know you're angry personally, but you're 290 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 5: not the victim here. We're all living with what happened 291 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 5: in this election. 292 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: And you got to pardon You're fine. It's just brutal, 293 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: but it does tell a really interesting story about how 294 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: angry the Bidens are at Nancy, at Barrock, at all 295 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: these people who they feel through them under the bus. 296 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: And then you did all this for Kamala Harris or 297 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: really not to even have a plan, and you lost. 298 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: So I almost get the anger. And honestly, who doesn't 299 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: love a good cat fight? Huh huh? Right, this is 300 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: Tony kats today. I was very happy to see President 301 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: Trump say we're pulling out of UNESCO. I've made the 302 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: argument before that while the United Nations was a unique effort, 303 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: maybe it's time has come. If all we're going to 304 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: do is support despots and the worst of the worst, 305 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: doesn't seem a valuable proposition for the United States to 306 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: be involved in, especially considering the money that we spend. 307 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. 308 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: So I was happy to see President Trump say we're 309 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: pulling out of UNESCO. But what is it? What does 310 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: it mean, and what does it mean for the future. 311 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: Eugene Contorovich joins me right now, Senior Research Fellow at 312 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at the Heritage Foundation 313 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: Heritage dot org. And you've written about this. You were 314 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: actually in the Wall Street Journal just a couple of 315 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: months ago making this argument utilizing a lot of the 316 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: same thoughts as what you're seeing now from the President, 317 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: especially after they did this research into UNESCO and what 318 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: they do. Let's start with what UNESCO does and how 319 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: it has morphed over the years. 320 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, UNESCO was founded in nineteen forty six when America 321 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 6: post joint and it was supposed to promote culture, science 322 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 6: and education around the world, which is maybe an other idea, 323 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 6: but it's not clear why you need the United Nations 324 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: skids to do that. Since then, it has morphed into 325 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 6: basically general purpose incubator progressive ideas from the world coagender ideology, 326 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 6: climate change, DEI, investigations of structural racism. Basically, instead of 327 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 6: being a cultural and scientific organization, they are trying to 328 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 6: change culture. 329 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: So the folks at UNESCO start off with one idea 330 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and then of course it morphs into something that is 331 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: purely not only an anti American concept, but really an 332 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: anti Western concept. And one of the things that the 333 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Trump people said was that while they were looking at 334 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: a probe on anti Semitism or anti Israel sentiment, what 335 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: they found was the issues regarding diversity, equity and inclusion 336 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: policies as well as it's pro Palestinian and pro China basis. 337 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: Let's start with the DEI because you wrote about this 338 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal. What kind of things was 339 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, us doing. 340 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 6: They were pushing anti racism training and an anti racism 341 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 6: tool kit that demands the governments and organizations undergo an 342 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 6: audit of racial equalities, which requires them to admit structural racism. Basically, 343 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 6: it's the straightly britting CANDYDI and that's what they were 344 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: pushing sort of throughout their educational platforms. And remember they 345 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 6: also teach educational curriculums, so they were also pushing gender 346 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 6: ideology LGBT gender curriculums. They had a program called Transforming 347 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 6: Men Charities Capital MBN about fighting marchiouness in video games. 348 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: Combat it. 349 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 6: They're pushing against norms of masculinity. They're trying to redo 350 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 6: society using US tax payer money. And of course the 351 00:22:53,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: anti Israel bias is fundamental. They have determined Jerusalem Jericho 352 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 6: Evon to be the Spanishtinian cities that have been erasing 353 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 6: Jewish and Christi convinced to the Holy Land. 354 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: Well, the anti Semitism of the United Nations just taking 355 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: a look at UNRU, the United Nations Reliefs Works Agency 356 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: for Palestinian refugees, actually aiding in a betting in terrorist 357 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: attacks a lah October seventh, talking to Eugene Contorovich, Senior 358 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: Research Fellow at the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom, part 359 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: of the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org. I thought it 360 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: interesting that it discusses what I consider to be a 361 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: top line threat, not that I don't consider anti Semitism 362 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: to be a threat, regardless of whether or not I'm Jewish. 363 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: And that is the conversation about pro China. What was 364 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: UNESCO doing that was seen as pro China, which I 365 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: think was a way of saying anti Western civilization. 366 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 6: So the Chinese government of Chinese Communist Party had succeeded 367 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 6: in exerting ever greater influence on units scope both and 368 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 6: having a sort of remarkable number of places in China 369 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 6: designated World World Heritage Sites, and now there's second only 370 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 6: to Italy. And about the groups Italy getting Chinese bureaucrats 371 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 6: in place, to promoting AI regulatory frameworks that would be 372 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: helpful to the Chinese governments. And when a person from 373 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 6: quits the first time was in twenty seventeen, then President 374 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 6: Biden read joined saying, we need to be part of 375 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 6: this organization to fight the Chinese influenced. But America being 376 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: part has not helped fight the Chinese influence at all. 377 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 6: What's small because the US diplomatic cold does not know 378 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: how to be as aggressively taking over international organizations as 379 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 6: the Chinese. But more importantly, the Chinese influence doesn't really 380 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 6: matter if America is not a member, because the organization 381 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: is only worth taking over when you have the world's 382 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 6: greatest power as part of it. Without without America as 383 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 6: a member, you know what China sort of gets is 384 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: a lot less. 385 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: So so much of this it gets into the larger 386 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: conversation of Hey, I'm happy to see that we're defunding UNESCO. 387 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm happy to see that we're done giving money as 388 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: we should be to unrun. But the real question here 389 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: is why are we still a part of the United 390 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: Nations and TOTO. Some ideas run their course. It is 391 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: my argument this one has run its course. Is it 392 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: your belief that the United States should be removing itself 393 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: from the United Nations as a whole? 394 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 6: I think nothing would be lost by quitting the United Nations, 395 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 6: but politically it is almost undoable because you know, like 396 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 6: the mafia which runs orphanages and Italian cultural festivals, the 397 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 6: UN also does some good things that create constituencies that 398 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 6: make it hard to get out of them. At the 399 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 6: same time, one can do a lot more work by 400 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 6: quitting particular UN agencies. The President has already quit the 401 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 6: World both organizations and UNESCO. There's a lot more sort 402 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 6: of components of the UN that we could quit one 403 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 6: by one, such as the International Label Organization, the International 404 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: Migration Organizations. There's a whole list of those, and that's 405 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 6: a good way of sort of starting the process. 406 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: You have written, though, going back to May of twenty 407 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: twenty five, as you are writing about getting the US 408 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: out of UNESCO, we should defund the United Nations. Now 409 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I said get out of the United Nations. You argue, 410 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: there's still some good things that are done, and maybe 411 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: you want to see it in the table if you're 412 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: going to defund them. Are we making the same argument. 413 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't say that the good things are worth 414 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 6: for membership politically. I'm just saying that politically absolute quitting 415 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 6: is extremely difficult, and we should definitely quit components that 416 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 6: we think with and other components that we can't quit 417 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 6: we should defund. And also I think is very important 418 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 6: encourage other for our allies to quit them also to 419 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 6: have as part of our diplomacy. I can you think 420 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 6: of un organization as promoting a harmful agenda. We need 421 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 6: to not just be quitting, but telling our allies that 422 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 6: we want them. 423 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: To quit before before I let you go. And I 424 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: know you're up against a timeline. We're going to hear 425 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: from the political left, how terrible this is, how awful 426 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: this is, Look at how many people are going to 427 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: be hurt by this defunding. How do you discuss with 428 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: people countering those progressive messages. 429 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 6: Well, I can prove that no one is really going 430 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 6: to notice the difference because the United States has actually 431 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 6: quit UNESCO before. It's under the some administration, and it 432 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 6: quit under Reagan and was out for twenty years from 433 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 6: the nineteen eighties until the two thousands. Was there less education, 434 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 6: society and culture during that period? Can anyone actually point 435 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 6: to like something that the world was backing. No, you 436 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 6: know this is only of interest in narrow bureaucrantic classes. 437 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: We're out. 438 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: Nobody's in going to remember that we were in and 439 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 6: you know, we survived not being in UNESCO for for decades, 440 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 6: and we can survive much more. The question is, you know, 441 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 6: if we have this organization that is promoting hostile agendas 442 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 6: and that is using its bureaucracy to essentially undermine American values, 443 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 6: one question we should ask is couldn't we push to 444 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 6: dismantle it further by encouraging Allied states to withdraw as well. 445 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: Eugene Kintarovich, Senior Research Fellow, Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom 446 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: at the Heritage Foundation Heritage dot org. I appreciate you 447 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: taking the time, sir, more to get to I'm Tony Katz. 448 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz. Today. Trump is saying to Harvard, sorry, 449 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: you get no more loot. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 450 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: good to be with you. I guess there's a theme 451 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: about people not getting money anymore. Unesc You're not getting 452 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: any more money. And now it's Harvard again, the same 453 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: rules apply. The political left is going to tell you 454 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: why this is an attack on our aren'titutions? It's an 455 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: attack on education, It's an attack on culture. Harvard is 456 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: not special, never has been special. No wait, hold on 457 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: maybe there was a moment where it actually was special, 458 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: where it was truly the creme de la creme, where 459 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: it was the finest institution the world has ever seen. 460 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: Whether that be through fact or just through marketing, it 461 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: was Harvard and it mattered, and Supreme Court justices come 462 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: from Harvard and law firms and only hired from Harvard. Tony, 463 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about the theme or the premise of the 464 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: show suits. No, no, no, no, I'm not because I 465 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: don't mention, Megan Markle. I'm saying that this is true. 466 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: There are places that have always been this way, but Harvard, 467 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: over the last decades, plural has provided no value because 468 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: getting into Harvard was the tough part. There was nothing 469 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: tough about graduating from Harvard, and getting into Harvard was 470 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: not based on an education, not based on skills, is 471 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: based on ideology and boxes checked. We know this because 472 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: for decades they have been involved in telling Asian students, 473 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: we've got enough of your kind. We need some of 474 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: that look over there, not the mind, the look, the face. 475 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the eyes. However the bigots at Harvard 476 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: saw it. Don't ask me to get into the mind 477 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: of a bigot. I can't do it. They said to 478 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Asian students, you're not welcome here. We've got enough of you. 479 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: Proving that the merit was inconsequential, Harvard then proved itself 480 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: to be not only a bastard of anti Semitism, but 481 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: proud of it and unwilling to stop it. It's okay 482 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: if students get threatened, it's okay if students get attacked. 483 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: It's okay if this bigotry exists on the campus. Now, 484 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: if you were to say something about someone who was black, 485 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: they would throw you out so fast you're a head 486 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: would spin. But you want to talk about them jew Us. 487 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Notice that's spelled with nineteen o's. I don't know what 488 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: they say because that had like a little bit of 489 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: a country twying, and I don't want to say it 490 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: like that. They would probably say Jews. But still with 491 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: the with the that's fine. According to Claudine Gay, the 492 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: former president, bigot of Harvard and still of Harvard. So 493 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: Harvard is suing the administration for a block on foreign 494 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: student visas. They've got a preliminary injunction already in place. 495 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: There should be no student visas in the United States. 496 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: It's time to put an end to this now, specifically 497 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: for students coming from the Chinese Communist Party. I'm not 498 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: interested in educating these people. I'm not interested in the 499 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: indoctrination of these people. I'm not interested in the propaganda 500 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: they push forward. They shouldn't be allowed go get an 501 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: education in China. You're not allowed to come here and 502 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: to the universities who love the student visas because the 503 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: students pay full freight and top dollar. You figure out 504 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: another way to go get paid. Maybe, just maybe, you'll 505 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: have to have other professors teaching more than one class 506 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: three times a week, and you'll have to get rid 507 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: of some bloat, just like the rest of the businesses 508 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: in the United States. But you now have Harvard saying 509 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: that they want restored two point six billion dollars in 510 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: research funding that was cut by the Trump administration, and 511 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: that was cut because the university has failed to protect students. 512 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: We're not paying you for these things. We're not going 513 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: to have it. Of course, this was the right move, 514 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: and have asked why. It's because Harvard is not special, 515 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: They are not important. I could right now drive down 516 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: the streets of Tulsa or Memphis, or Saint Louis or Detroit, 517 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: or Baton Rouge, or Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, you name the city. 518 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: I could drive down the streets of Bloomington or Munsey 519 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: in Indiana, I could drive through the streets of Peoria, 520 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: the beautiful streets of Peoria, cool spot, and I could 521 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: find you an unlimited number of people whose lives will 522 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: not be affected at all by whatever happens at Harvard. 523 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: They don't know Harvard, they're not thinking about Harvard. They 524 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: don't know anybody who went to Harvard. They don't know 525 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: anybody who's graduating Harvard. They're not considering sending their kid 526 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: to Harvard. They're not hiring anybody from Harvard. They don't care. 527 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: Their lives are completely and totally unchanged. Well, you don't 528 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: understand all the research that's going on here, the important research. 529 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: That research can be done somewhere else. That research can 530 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: be done in Oklahoma, that research can be done in Tennessee, 531 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: that research can be done in Illinois, that research can 532 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: be done in Michigan. Nobody has to go to Massachusetts 533 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: for this research. No one, what a nonsense argument. Well, 534 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: we're the only lab that can know you're not We're 535 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: the only people who can know you're not someone will 536 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: fill the void. And when you engage the type of 537 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: education that you do, why would I trust your research anyway? 538 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't think that your research is biased to specific conclusions, 539 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: because well everything else is biased at your university. Announce 540 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: us to trust the science. Tell me more as we 541 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: learn about the lawsuits against people like Michael Mann and 542 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: others regarding climate, the hockey stick graph and all that silliness. 543 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: How much data was manipulated in the world of climate 544 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: in order to try and prove the thesis that climate 545 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: change was real, anthropogenic, etc. Anthropogenic man made trust you? 546 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: Should I trust the science when I'm told we should 547 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: stand six feet away from each other because of COVID 548 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: and that a mask has efficacy? Or not? Should I 549 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: trust the science when you told Grandma she can't say 550 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: goodbye to her husband of sixty three years, who's dying 551 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: alone wondering where his wife is. No, No, I'm not 552 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: about to trust these people. I don't think they're the 553 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: only ones who can decide, and I'm not going to 554 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: trust that their science is actually based on science. The 555 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: defunding is fined now, I'm not necessarily arguing against funding 556 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: and Toto although that's an interesting question. I think we'd 557 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: need to learn a little bit more about how these 558 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: things affect other things. What I am saying is that 559 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: the idea that only Harvard can do these things is nonsense, 560 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: and that Harvard has to have this money is nonsense, 561 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: and it's an attack on education is nonsense, and it's 562 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: an attack on free speech is nonsense. Tell Harvard to 563 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: have all the jew hating free speech they want. They 564 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: just can't have my tax money to do it, nor yours. 565 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: Good move from the president. More to get to this 566 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today