1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos? But 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: it is day, said Hammers. Right over there, Alison, our 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: producer has joined us in studio off air conversation. Oh 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: dear god, HR violations we in let's see the government 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: shut down? What October one? So this is November three? 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't know math very well. Thirty four days. Bill 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Maher on Friday on his show on HBO was talking 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: about this a little bit, that the government shutdown is 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: kind of based on the Affordable Care Act. This is 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: something you and I have been talking about and saying 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: and reiterating four days. This is all subsidies. The Democrats pulled. 12 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: It's like a bait and switch on because they said, no, no, no, no, 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: we're just doing this for the COVID emergency. But the 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: emergencies over now. But they still want those emergencies the 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: acts in place, and they said, oh no now now, 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: we want it now. It's forever right. 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Correct, That's it. And listen, anybody that actually follows this 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: closely can see this, like we've been talking about it 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: for a while. 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: The super subsidies, the super you know, the things that 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: were enacted during COVID that said Hey, this is only temporary. 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: We're going to get you guys through COVID and then 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: we're going to end this. But the Democrats want those 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: to go on and on and on on forever. 25 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: Right, they were set to expire and listen, the Republicans 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: have the majority. They do like the efficient blue check 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: mark Democrats accounts put some post out going. The Republicans 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: have the White House, the Senate, and the House. This 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: is their shutdown. No, it's not because they don't have 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: the Senate. Well, I mean you do, but you have 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: to have sixty votes. 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: You you have to the majority. 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have sixty votes, so you need 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: at least seven Democrats. Y'll say, yes, Okay, we may 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: disagree with what's going on, but let's pass a temporary 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: spending bill, a temporary package that allows people to get 37 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: their SNAP without having to dip into private business for 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: people to pay for SNAP, and we'll figure it out 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: because in the past that's the way things have gone. Well, 40 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: the Republicans look like they're actually growing a backbone here 41 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: and saying, look, we will not be paying for illegals 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: to have benefits from taxpayer money. That's where we draw 43 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: the line. And if the Democrats want to continue to 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: play games, well, then you own this thing. Now, for 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: those of you who may be Democrats hearing that, if 46 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: you're not giving me the middle finger right now, that's fine, 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: but even members of your own party agree to that. 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Here is Senator from Pennsylvania John Fetterman. 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: Empteply, deeply distressing to know that forty two millions Americans 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 3: are going to lose their snap benefits. And now that's 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: one of the big reasons why I refuse to shutting 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: our government down. And again I feel like the Democrats 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: really need to own the shutdown. 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, who needs to own that? 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: Nige who? The Fetterman say? The Democrats need to own 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the shut down because they're using it as a negotiating 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: tool to get Donald Trump to do what they want. 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump, as we know, and as we talked 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: about Friday, it doesn't work well when we're talking about 60 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: hostage situations, so to speak, which you can loosely compare here. Seriously, 61 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, if you're gonna there's no way that 62 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is going to negotiate under duress with the 63 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Democrats holding them hostage with these benefits for illegal immigrants 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: to happen. He said he'd do it in good faith 65 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: if they pass if they passed a bill. True. 66 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Now, I will give you a little counter argument here. Now, 67 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: this happened when I was on vacation, So maybe you 68 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: and Spanglish or whoever filled in for me when I 69 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: was gone, talked about this. I don't like the idea 70 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: of Trump getting squorely with the filibuster, because there was 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: chatter last week about the old man saying, you know, 72 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: let's do the nuclear option here, let's get rid of 73 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: the philibuster. I don't like the idea of that at all. 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: You've got the leverage here. Keep this damn thing closed 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: as long as you want. Because if people who need 76 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: to get snapped benefits don't get them, listen, this is politics, 77 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: And whether you think this is crass or not, I 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: don't care. Republicans have the leverage here. This is a 79 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: Democrat issue. They're screwing over their own constituents with this. 80 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: So let it play out. Let it comple completely play out.