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Speaker 2: That game last night, Jake just kind of displays there

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Speaker 1: Have you been to New York City? I have not.

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Speaker 1: thousandth time that day finding video of Scott Wiland playing

431
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: in some random bar in San Diego five years earlier,

432
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. To blow off some steam,

433
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: I would go play pick up basketball and I went

434
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: one time to West Fourth. I was like, I'm going

435
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: to go play it West Fourth and I go to

436
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: West Fourth and I literally and this was after the

437
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: NBA season had ended this bidened in would have been

438
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: like mid August, probably right about now, And I go

439
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: to West Fourth on a Saturday, and there's a huge

440
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: crowd and I'm like, I'm just gonna get out there

441
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: and show these guys how kids from Indiana could shoot

442
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: the rock. And I go out there and I look

443
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: and the dude bringing the ball up the floor is

444
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Anthony Mason, and I'm like, yeah, you know what, this

445
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: might be a little bit higher in court than I'm

446
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: used to. So then I thought, I'll go to Rutger Park.

447
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: Rutger Park the legendary place, Rutger Park where the parochial

448
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: kids of the state of New York would play in

449
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: an All Star game against the city school kids from

450
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: New York. And that's where Frank maguire from North Carolina

451
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: would go and scouted out at Rutger Park, and that's

452
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: where he hand picked his back court of the future

453
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty seven, and he's like, Okay, Donnie Walsh,

454
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: Larry Brown come to North Carolina. And I'm like, Rutcker Park.

455
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna watch Rutger Park. And

456
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: I went and I watched Rutger Park and there wasn't

457
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: a tournament going on, but there were guys playing. They

458
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: were okay, and I played and it was fun. I

459
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: think last night the Brooklyn Nets did what I did.

460
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: They went last night to west Forth, said these guys

461
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: are way too good. Then they went to Rutger Park

462
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: and then they went to the other places around Flatbush

463
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: and wherever else and Avenue p and Brooklyn and plucked

464
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: nine guys off of the black top. Said you want

465
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: to play in the NBA to night, And that's what

466
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: they did last night, Right, Eddie? What percent of the

467
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: players in last night's Nets game were you familiar with

468
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: prior to last night? One?

469
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: One?

470
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: They scored fourteen points in a quarter, did they not? EJ.

471
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Liddell was the okay?

472
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: Two?

473
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: I guess Jalen Wilson.

474
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: E J. Liddell and Jalen Wilson were the only two

475
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: players that I was familiar with prior to last night.

476
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: Ladell because you played at Ohio State. Jalen Wilson because

477
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: he was on the Kansas team that won the national championship.

478
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Fair Pacers now have how many games remaining? Drake Powell

479
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: sounds like a guy you went to high school with.

480
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: Drake Powell. Actually, isn't that an actor? That is Glenn Powell.

481
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: That's right, okay, thank you, Glenn Powell. Is Chad Powers? Right?

482
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: No?

483
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: Yes? Is that right? Yes? Okay? There was some reports

484
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: Jake that he was with Sidney Sweeney. Really, uh huh?

485
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: Do you think he had to wear the Chad Powers

486
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: disguise for that? I don't think I don't think so.

487
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, the Pacers now have how many remaining games? Dose?

488
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: They are at home tonight against the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

489
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: Correct the well embiid appendicitis correct. I did know that

490
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: that I've had appendicitis. Let me tell you something. You

491
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: know how they get the appendicitis out? What corny joke?

492
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: Are you gonna say?

493
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: No?

494
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: This is a true story, true story. I've never understood this.

495
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: I have my gall bettery removed, and then five years

496
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: later my appendix removed, And I'm like, why didn't you

497
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: just go ahead and do it? Buy one, get one?

498
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: If you have your gall buttery, moove, shouldn't they automatically

499
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: just do the appendix while they're there? It serves no purpose,

500
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: It's nothing but the appendix literally is all it is is.

501
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: It's a what do you call it? A sitter? What

502
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: do you call it when? When's a squatter? When somebody's

503
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: living in like an abandoned house, I'm not supposed to

504
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: be there. There's just a squatter. The appendix is you're human,

505
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: is a human squad it it's just living there, doesn't

506
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: do anything. So if you're going in and you're taking

507
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the only way you know you have an appendix is

508
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: if the thing gets infected, so just take it out.

509
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: If you're in there poking around, take it out. But

510
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: the way they do it is they go in with

511
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: they make three little incisions, two lasers and a vacuum hose.

512
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: They laser two things, they laser out and they free

513
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: it up and then and they take it out. Okay,

514
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm serious. That's how the gallbladder comes out. And then

515
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: they did the same from my appendix. So it's not

516
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: an overly like painful procedure because you're knocked out obviously,

517
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: but you wake up and you feel like a million bucks.

518
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: And what you don't realize is things are a little

519
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: tender for like a week or two, and it's very

520
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: difficult to move around. So I understand Joel Embiid, who

521
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: already looks like he is a sedated bront Tosaurus when

522
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: he's trying to run up the floor, But now with

523
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the appendicite, is that's going to be a change.

524
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: I find it very odd and interesting if you go

525
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: to the official NBA injury report on NBA's website, not

526
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: yet submitted for the Sixers, like we already know that

527
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid is on the injury report, Like, can we

528
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: at least have that on there?

529
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 5: You know.

530
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: The other thing that's interesting, truthfully all secondly aside is

531
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: that he had been listed as injured with an oblique injury. Yeah,

532
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: and I believe oblique is an abdominal muscle, right, It's

533
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: the side so off the side of your body. So

534
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was not I'm not gonna say misdiagnosis.

535
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to legally say the wrong thing. But

536
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: did they not? Did was that actually the appendix starting

537
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: to speak up a little bit and they and they

538
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: didn't realize it, and it just assumed, as you would

539
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: with an athlete, it was a muscle thing. But either way,

540
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: Philly tonight, Detroit on Sunday, right, and then Finny.

541
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then by the way, Vic and the the

542
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: the YouTube chat can go be a part of the

543
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: company break room. Uh, the appendix is the few pages

544
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: at the beginning of a book.

545
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Duh, Yes, that's right, that's correct. I'm telling you the

546
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: appendix there's no purpose. It's just squatting in there. So

547
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: if you're going to go in and get my gall bladder,

548
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: why did they not take that as well? You got

549
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: the hose down there, Just go ahead and clean the

550
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: whole thing up. Pacers need to lose one of these

551
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: last two games to secure that they are not screwing

552
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: up any further where they are in the draft. We'll

553
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 1: get more into that other side. James Boyd Moore on

554
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: this big one though, Kenny Moore now free to shop around,

555
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: and what does that tell us about another situation with

556
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: the Colts? Boyd gonna join me at one, but I'll

557
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: answer the other question next. Eddie. I've asked you this before,

558
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: but I'm going to ask again.

559
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Okay, guests, there are days where I don't like doing

560
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: the show.

561
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Really, I thought this was wea gonna ask me, well,

562
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: are you assuming that I just bop in here every day?

563
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: You just live in the dream.

564
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: I think that's what you think I do every day

565
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: that's from noon to three.

566
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Live in your dream or my dream.

567
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: No, I know you're living your dream that you finally

568
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: get to work with somebody as.

569
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Cool as me.

570
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I got news.

571
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: For you pretty low bar when it was Derek Schoulff previously.

572
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: This is gonna say, consider who you're up against, right, Yeah,

573
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: give me a musical artist that everybody else really likes

574
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: and you don't necessarily dislike them, and you can recognize

575
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: that they are talented, but you're like, yeah, I've just

576
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: never really gotten they're fine, but I'm not. It doesn't

577
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like I wouldn't necessarily pay to go see

578
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: them in a concert or whatever else. But imagine dragons.

579
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, Jess on the text line three

580
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: one seven, two nine, ten seventy, the moment has passed.

581
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: But you might be also thinking about Drew Powell, TV

582
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: movie actor from Lebanon.

583
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, yeah, Drew Powell's and he strikes me. I

584
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: mean he's a big Pacer fan. He just did a

585
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: Pacer video Drew Powell.

586
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

587
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: He seems to always be like when I think of

588
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Drew Powell, I think of him as being somebody that's

589
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: in some sort of like what's the show that he

590
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: was in for a long time? He was at a

591
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: somebody helped me out here or text on the text

592
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: line at two three nine ten seventy or me either one.

593
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I can look it up. But I think a Drew

594
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Palas being a guy that's always like the not necessarily

595
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: a bat like in kind of like a borderline sci fi.

596
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: He is best known for his roles as Haas Cartwhite

597
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: on the Pax series Ponderosa, Cadet Drew.

598
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: On Malcolm in the Middle, No one of them, butch.

599
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: Uh somebody else, Yeah, a couple different people on Gotham Gotham.

600
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

601
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Either way, many cameo in the pit. That's a great

602
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: show if you're into like hospitals.

603
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: I've heard it's a good show. It's really good. But

604
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore to me is kind of like your imagined dragons.

605
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't dislike him. I don't want to say that,

606
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about as a person as a player.

607
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: I know he's good, and I know that people like

608
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: really liked him as a player, and he did have

609
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: big moments. But to me, I'm like, he's fine. I

610
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: don't mean that to disparage what he's been, what he

611
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: has meant to this franchise, this community, this fan base.

612
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: I understand and respect all of those things. But I

613
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: also think that if you believe that Kenny Moore can

614
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: be a nice insurance policy for somebody, or a nice

615
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: final piece for somebody, But if Kenny Moore is the

616
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: player that you're putting on the side of your stadium,

617
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: you're probably a five hundred team. I'm sorry for being

618
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: that blunt. I'm just that's how I've always felt. Now

619
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: you asked a good question of who replaces him on

620
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: the side of Lucas Oil Stadium, I would think Daniel Jones.

621
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you are a franchise, if you're a

622
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: franchise that is putting players on the side outside of

623
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: the building, especially it's odd if you're just to tenant

624
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: of the building and you don't actually own it. But

625
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: either way, if you're putting players on the outside of

626
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: a building, wouldn't it Does your quarterback have to be

627
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: one of them? Does it? I mean, theoretically, you.

628
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Would think the quarterback would be on the side if

629
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: you had a long term solution.

630
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's and that's what we're about to find out, right,

631
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: which leads to my other point, and that is I

632
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: do think that Kenny Moore has trade value, and I

633
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: think we're going to find that out. And I think

634
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: it also further illustrates and cements showing that Anthony Richardson

635
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: does seemingly not have a lot of trade value none,

636
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: and that is a major indictment on There are two

637
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: things to me that, until I see differently, are major indictment,

638
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: major indictments on the Colts. The first is that Chris

639
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Ballard's most important draft pick, his most important draft pick

640
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: in his tenure leading an NFL franchise, The most important

641
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: is a guy that literally they have it sitting in

642
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: the front yard with one thousand dollars or best offer,

643
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: and people are driving past it on Meridian Street every

644
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: day and it's now just become part of the scenery.

645
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: And are they going to you know, are they going to.

646
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Speaker 1: End up having to release a top five pick at

647
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: quarterback that at the time that they selected him, everyone

648
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: was saying a lot of physical traits, but a lot

649
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: of question marks. And the other thing that sheds light

650
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: on the way that was aired, and the way it

651
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: was handled is potentially what we're going to see in

652
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. If Fernando Mendoza in fact sits and watches

653
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins for a while and then takes over and plays, well,

654
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: then you're going to look at it and say, here

655
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: is a guy that literally checked every of the resume

656
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: that you would want for a quarterback coming out of college,

657
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: with a billion starts in college and a ton of

658
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: wins and comeback victories and a Heisman Trophy and a

659
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: national championship and a perfect season, all of those things.

660
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: And yet one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the

661
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: NFL had the wherewithal to say, maybe we should bring

662
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: in a veteran to tutor him for a little bit.

663
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: But the Colts took a guy that had fewer career

664
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Speaker 1: starts than Mendoza had wins at Indiana and threw him

665
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the keys. So have that, and we now have seen

666
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: two players, Anthony Richardson and Kenny Moore, that the Colts

667
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: have now said in the last three months or so

668
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: of one another, you are open to seek trades elsewhere.

669
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: One of those players was a top five pick at

670
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: a position that is the most coveted in all of football,

671
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: and is still really young, built like Adonis, and has

672
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: shown flashes, and yet seemingly that phone has never rang.

673
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: The other one is about to turn thirty one years

674
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: old at a position where that's about the ceiling, and

675
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: been a good player, and I think probably the phone's

676
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: ringing already, And that further illustrates how badly, how badly

677
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: they whiffed when it came to Anthony Richardson. Now, I'd

678
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: like to let you know if Eddie, do you ever

679
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: question the power of this program.

680
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Let's see, sometimes we sometimes we talk things into existence

681
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: right on occasion. Hey, Jake, you just absolutely made my

682
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: daughter's day.

683
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: She's requested specifically that it take her to Chicago's Pizza

684
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: today for lunch. Heck yeah, I would like a full

685
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: report back on how lunches at Chicago you went.

686
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: I was salivating when you were talking about the cheese

687
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: and the breaststakes.

688
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: And the you've had it and the sauce. I mean

689
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: when I'm telling you we brought that. They brought Chicago's

690
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: Pizza in here. Ron and Nate brought it in and

691
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: the only time that people knew that we worked here,

692
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like the entire place was.

693
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Speaker 2: There's a couple of people that know me by name

694
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Speaker 2: about the Chicago's Pizza in Morzoo, Indiana.

695
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, it's the best. Also, yesterday I talked

696
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: to Mo in Ohio. Oh big Mo, how's he doing?

697
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: He's doing great? You know what he was doing when

698
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: I called. I'm talking to him. I had a question

699
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: for him. We talk history everyone. So I'm talking to

700
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: Mo from Ohio and in the background I hear Mike.

701
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: I hear that. I hear that voice Mike, and I thought,

702
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: I know what that is. And I said, Mo, are

703
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: you watching the Brady Bunch? And he said, you know

704
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: I am. I'm watching the Brady Bunch because I heard

705
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: you talking about it. Now I want to kick. I'm

706
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: up to episode eight of season two. He's binge watching

707
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 1: the Brady Bunch.

708
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Speaker 2: You never did reveal what's on the shirt yesterday, after

709
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 2: having everybody guess.

710
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Oh, the reveal will be when I'm at the Brady

711
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Bunch house with Peter Brady wearing the shirt. Okay, people

712
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: can continue to guess again. For those that were not

713
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: part of this fun game yesterday, Oh yeah, fun sure,

714
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah. So a week from today I will

715
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: be on my way to Long Beach, California, and you

716
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: won't be doing the show. Therefore the show will be better. Yeah,

717
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: be sure to tune in. One week from today it'll

718
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: be the if we're gonna win a Marconi. It's going

719
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: to be a week from today, right when Craig Rake

720
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Speaker 1: straws in. Yeah, and then on Monday when Will haskts in.

721
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Speaker 1: You got you literally, you're bookening the weekend. I mean

722
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: you want to talk four day week woo, four day weekend.

723
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: There you go. So I'm on my way to Long

724
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: Beach for the IndyCar Race, and that is where I

725
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: will as I have set up before, and I've told everybody.

726
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Last year I met Christopher Night, the actor that played

727
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: Peter Brady, at the Long Beat Trace, and he said, oh,

728
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: next year, if you're in town, look me up. I'll

729
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: take you over to the Brady bunch House. Now, he

730
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: probably says this, and I'll ask him about it. I'll

731
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Speaker 1: bet he says it to his dry cleaner. You know,

732
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: he drops off his clean his dry cleaning. Oh yeah,

733
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: you ever want to go to the Brady bunch House,

734
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: you let me know. Say that to people, and then

735
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: he's thinking.

736
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: To himself, well this, this guy's never actually going to

737
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: find this out. So I went to Great Links, did

738
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Speaker 2: some calisthenics and found him three Lengths.

739
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: What's that? Where is Great Lengths? Just up between Minnesota

740
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. So yeah, they do a lot of spotted

741
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: cow up there. I got his phone number and called him,

742
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: left him a voicemail and said, listen, I don't know

743
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: if you remember meeting me. I'm the guy that met you,

744
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: Da da da. I'd like to take you up on

745
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: your offer. I didn't hear from him for a while

746
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and I thought, okay, you know,

747
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: clearly I'm you know, he probably gets I mean Christopher night.

748
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: He's phone's probably blowing up all the time. Right. So

749
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: he got back to me and said, hey, I'm so

750
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: sorry I was traveling didn't get a chance. Absolutely would

751
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: love to do it. Can't you know? Awesome, you're going

752
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: to be back for the race. Let's do it Saturday

753
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: night at the Brady House. And I said, well, I

754
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: need you on the program to talk up what we're

755
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: going to do and all of the fun excursions that

756
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: we're going to do, and we're going to go over

757
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: to I mean, we're going to go to Coolidge High

758
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: and steal Roquel the mascot, and then we're going to

759
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: go and try to see if we can catch Greg

760
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: smoking in the park, and then you know, I mean,

761
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the whole shebang. And he said, no problem,

762
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I'd love to come on the show. We'll talk up Indy.

763
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: He was a race fan, and he said, how about

764
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: so this Thursday, this coming Thursday, he's going to be

765
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: on the program knocking out of the Pot. I'm telling

766
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: you right now, that's going to be the Marconi winner.

767
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: But Moe was listening to The Brady Bunch yesterday. So

768
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: I had a shirt specifically designed because I am this

769
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: big of a geek and kind of a groupie, and

770
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: I had a shirt designed specifically centered around Peter Brady,

771
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: the character and the themes of the Brady Bunch. And

772
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't have pork chops and apple sauce. And it

773
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have that was the most common guess, But nobody

774
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: has guessed what it is what the shirt says. And

775
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: I think the way I'm gonn unveil it is just

776
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: when I'm there on the steps with my photo with

777
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: Peter Brady. I'll be wearing the shirt and everybody will go,

778
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: that guy's a genius. Can I ask what it is

779
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: that you're laughing about?

780
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: So yesterday we kind of let it out that caleb

781
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: 's ivers over who works at this here radio station.

782
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: Here I'm frequently filling in for Mark Dyton when he's

783
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: on his sixty seventh PTO day before.

784
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: It even turns July. That is Mo from Ohio Sun.

785
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: And he texted me, he goes, oh geez, when you

786
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: heard you say that you were talking to his dad?

787
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh most great. What was a buddy?

788
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: Mo?

789
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: And our buddies? We talked fairly off.

790
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Now did he express concern about potentially not being able

791
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: to make it in twenty seven days or twenty days?

792
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Moe was at the golf outing last year, of course,

793
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: the golf outing for the fan at Legends Golf Course.

794
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: That's going to be Legends Golf Club down in Franklin

795
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: on the thirtieth. We're going to be out there all

796
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: day and it is all to help out Franciscan Health Foundation.

797
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: Of course, they will also have health screening taking place.

798
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: They'll be able to answer any of your questions. Really

799
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: hoping that we're also going to be able to have

800
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: a toast at a celebration for Jaylaw, who was there

801
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: last year and was very candid about his health journey

802
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: with prostate cancer and his screens and procedures have come

803
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: back and are all good. John and I've talked about

804
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: that and it's going to be awesome. Hopefully Jaylaw will

805
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: be there as well. But again April thirtieth, Legends playing

806
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Legends alone and Ted Bishop's course is worth the price

807
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: right there.

808
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: Well, we've been selling tickets for what two to three

809
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 2: months now, Yeah, I think that's right, and they're starting

810
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: to go quickly. So if you are wanting to go

811
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Speaker 2: individual or forsome, either one that is correct you. Matt

812
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Taylor will be there. Don Fisher will be in attendance.

813
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: You booked Pat Knight yesterday. We're working on a couple

814
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: of other people that you could meet at the golf

815
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: outing and here in twenty days at the Legend. So

816
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: one O seven five defan dot com is how you

817
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: can purchase your ticket or your force some package.

818
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: James Boyd with the Big Colts News gonna join us

819
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: and going to do it next one o'clock hour underway

820
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for that MA, the for that matter of

821
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: the one o'clock hour is underway everywhere in the Eastern

822
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: time zone. My name is Jake Quarry. Eddie Garrison the

823
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: other voice you hear on this program, it's known as

824
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: Quarry and Company. Here on ninety three five and one

825
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: oh seven five the fan. Now, Eddie, you say one

826
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Speaker 1: oh seven five to the fan, right, yeah, But yet

827
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Speaker 1: you've been brainwashed by Mark Boyle that oh is not

828
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Speaker 1: a number and you have to say zero for everything.

829
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: So why the inconsistency? If I'm met, that's the branding

830
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: of the station. Okay, fair enough. You know who signs

831
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: the checks, right, that's right? Okay, you am That is correct.

832
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: I have always said that. I know that although within

833
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: this company, you know, come on earlier today if you're

834
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: just joining the program, thank you, Eddie. I was talking

835
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: about how we had the you know, I had this

836
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: vision of what we are going to be doing today.

837
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: You've got the Pacers penultimate game tonight. You have the

838
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: Pacers almost screwing everything up last night and winning again.

839
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: And we have mister Basketball coming on at two thirty today.

840
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: We've got Kevin Bowen coming on the.

841
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: Masters are you know back now into round number two?

842
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: So I knew that there was a lot to talk

843
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: about and then the story comes out and I explained

844
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: earlier why it is, and I get tired of people

845
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: that are like, O, come, uh whneuver's a big story.

846
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: It's always a shift and when where's the local guys?

847
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: And I laid that all out for you. But the

848
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: big thing was that Kenny Moore now has been a

849
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: mutual agreement between Kenny Moore the second and the Colts

850
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: that he is allowed to seek a trade. James Boyd,

851
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: who you hear on the morning show here on the

852
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: Fan along with Kevin Bowen and jeff Rickord, joins me

853
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: in studio. So let's get to this first, James, and

854
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: that is everything that you've been able to kind of

855
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: piece together or learn about this and maybe just how

856
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: it all came together.

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00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

858
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 7: So I think a lot of it has to do

859
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 7: with the fit in Lou's system and perhaps that not

860
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 7: being up to par for Kenny. He thrives as more

861
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 7: of like a zone cornerback and with Lou, a lot

862
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 7: of it is man to man and trying to you know,

863
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 7: create mismatches that way, and then on top of that,

864
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 7: he is getting older. We can tie that back to

865
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 7: the Chris Ballard statement of want to get younger and faster?

866
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 7: Does can he kind of fit that bill anymore? Probably not?

867
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 7: And he's going into the final year of his contract.

868
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 7: So if you know you're not going to extend this

869
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 7: guy into the future, then why not try to get

870
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 7: an asset back for him now? The flip side to that, Jake,

871
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 7: is what if you're trying to win now, does getting

872
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 7: rid of him help you win now?

873
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 6: And you're putting a lot.

874
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 7: On presumably a rookie still in my eyes, see justin Wallach, James,

875
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: I think.

876
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think this is another sign that

877
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: the Sholtz are not doing a total hard reset. There's

878
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: two ways to reset something, Okay, listen. You can grab

879
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: your iPhone, push the two buttons on the side, and

880
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: then hold down the power button until it goes all

881
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: the way dark, and then it comes back and the

882
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: little Apple icon comes back. You've now completely reset, right, yep.

883
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: The other is to take the Nintendo cartridge out of

884
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,439
Speaker 1: the machine and go and then put it back in.

885
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: The colts aren't necessarily doing the first, but they're kind

886
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: of doing the second in the fact that Kenny Moore

887
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 1: is pertinent to them. If Daniel Jones had never gone

888
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: down and had not started to show some regression, and

889
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: that's something that I've always been weary of. I like

890
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I do, and I think Daniel Jones played

891
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: well for them, But I also think that the injury

892
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: that ended his season overshadowed the fact that, especially once

893
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh threw the sink at him, he was starting to

894
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: show some of his dangerous tendencies.

895
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: And we forget at that.

896
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: But if he was indeed going to stay on the

897
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: trajectory he showed when they got out to say the

898
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: seven and one or whatever it was eight and two start,

899
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: and was playing at that level, then maybe right now

900
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: the Colts are in fact in Let's test it out

901
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: and see where we are, you know, let's push all

902
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: in mode. I think they're rather in okay, Maybe we're

903
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: not as much on the cusp as we thought, and

904
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: we need to shore up some areas. And the window

905
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: went from a win now to like a two to

906
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: three year thing. And so therefore you can turn to

907
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: a justin Wally who and I made the comparison earlier.

908
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: You know, you covered the pacers in the NBA as well.

909
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: Justin Wally to me is a little bit like Andrew

910
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 1: Nimhart in the fact that as soon as he arrived,

911
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: they were like, whoa wait a minute, like that we

912
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: might have really found something here. And that then with

913
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: Andrew Nimhart in his development somewhat made Ben Matherin more

914
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: expendable than you would have anticipated because it was thought

915
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: that Matherrom is going to be the running mate to Halliburton,

916
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: and you know, then you get Siakam whatever else. But

917
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: to me, Kenny Moore also justin Wallly's growth and what

918
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: he was able to show last year before he got

919
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: and I know he got hurt in camp. I mean

920
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: it was right, but they clearly believe, you know what,

921
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: we have seen enough in this player that we feel

922
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: confident there. And we got what we needed out of Kennymore.

923
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: He was a good ambassador for the franchise and for

924
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: the league, and he's a solid citizen and a good

925
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: player during a time where we had a lot of

926
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: dysfunction and we had young players in the corner room,

927
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: some of which aren't here anymore, and they don't need

928
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: that tutor anymore. And now you made the trade for

929
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: Gardner and you have other pieces. He just, to me

930
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: is a good player who you paid as a very

931
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: good player. And so now that he's in the last

932
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: year of his contract, there may be a franchise out

933
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: there that in fact is a year they're pushing all

934
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: in right now. They just need that final piece and

935
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: maybe he gives somebody else an insurance policy.

936
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 7: I think that's a fair assessment. I think Kenny could

937
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 7: definitely still help a team. I agree with that, but yeah,

938
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 7: like Star Kenny, Pro Bowl Kenny, that's probably years past

939
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 7: at this point. I don't know if he can regain

940
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 7: that sort of level of play.

941
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 6: Go ahead, and then I'll no, go ahead, you got it,

942
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 6: you're so well No.

943
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying, but see, you're the guest. Now

944
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: when you have a guest over to the house now

945
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: right now, I mean you work here too, but you

946
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: know as the guest, you don't say, oh, would you

947
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: like to have a seat and then jump.

948
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: Onto the county.

949
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 6: No, no, now, But I trust you though.

950
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I think, Kenny Moore, and I

951
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: want you to tell me, James, I trust you to

952
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: tell me if this is an off base comment. I

953
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: think Kenny Moore is a very solid NFL player, But

954
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: I think Kenny Moore is also one that if he

955
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: is your most solid defensive player, you are probably eight

956
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: nine every year.

957
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 7: I think that could be a little bit harsh coming off.

958
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 7: But yeah, I don't know if he can be like

959
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 7: your lead cornerback, your star cornerback on a championship level defense.

960
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 7: But I do think he can still be a very

961
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 7: good piece to a defense that can go deep into

962
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 7: the playoffs or be a championship level, championship caliber unit.

963
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 6: But I think also part of that is this age too.

964
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 7: Like to be fair to Kenny, I don't think that

965
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 7: he is the same player physically that he was right

966
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 7: four or five years ago. I mean, most cornerbacks honestly

967
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 7: don't even have that long of a prime.

968
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: So and you start Eddie and I did this earlier,

969
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: I think you could say, with some exceps, you know

970
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: there's a reason Charles Woodson and Champ Bailey, you know

971
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: those guys are unicorns because when you typically when your

972
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: skill set is reliant upon the to run backwards, which

973
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: is not a natural body movement, anyway, as you age,

974
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: it becomes that much more difficult for your body to

975
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: sustain that. And I think thirty thirty one thirty two

976
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: is that window where you start to lose.

977
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: And it might be that you only lose.

978
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: Four percent ten percent, but that's a position where you

979
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: need one hundred percent.

980
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: You can get you can.

981
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: Mask that in other era, in other positions, but not

982
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: at at corner and that. And again, Nichol's a little different.

983
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: It's not like he's playing every day, every down, every play.

984
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: I just I think he's a good player, and I

985
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: think it is it has been mutually beneficial for the

986
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: Colts and for Kenny Moore because Kenny Moore got out

987
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: of the Colts well he needed and the Colts got

988
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: out of Kenny Moore realistically what they needed in that time.

989
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: And so now now you tell me this, if in

990
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: fact it has come to that pass. Is this an

991
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: ugly bitter divorced situation or mutual respect and understanding of

992
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: what helps each other situation?

993
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 6: The latter for sure.

994
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 7: I mean, Kenny is one of the most respected players

995
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 7: within that franchise. I don't think that he I know

996
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 7: this for a fact, that he did not irritate people

997
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 7: on the way out the way that Zaire Franklin did

998
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 7: with all the podcast stuff and things like that. With Kenny,

999
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 7: he was there Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee

1000
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 7: and did it multiple times. So they'll work to probably

1001
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 7: try to find him a place that he would want

1002
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 7: to go to, that he can win with going into

1003
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 7: the final year of his contract and perhaps play well

1004
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 7: enough to get another contract in the NFL. But for

1005
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 7: the coach purposes now, I'm thinking, Okay, how big of

1006
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 7: a need does cornerback possibly become for you? Because we

1007
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 7: talk about all these other needs that they have to

1008
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 7: address defensive end, linebacker, wide receiver, possibly, where does cornerback

1009
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 7: kind of rank now? Because I get that on paper,

1010
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 7: they're like, we have a solid unit. Justin Wally was

1011
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 7: thriving for the ACL Javeris Ward. He's been an All

1012
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 7: Pro before and then obviously saw his guard two time

1013
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 7: first seam All Pro. But keep in mind, Severi's wark

1014
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 7: contemplated retiring right not so long ago, and he told us, yeah,

1015
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 7: if I get another concussion, I might be done.

1016
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 6: Are we sure he's not gonna get another one this

1017
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 6: upcoming season?

1018
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 7: So you're putting a lot of eggs into the health

1019
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 7: basket for Taverius Ward in particular, and that being a

1020
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 7: big part of your defensive secondary. So again, I'm sitting

1021
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 7: here today, Friday, April tenth, thinking you got more holes

1022
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 7: than solutions than you had starting out this offseason. I

1023
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 7: get this, you have to move on for some players,

1024
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 7: like I'm not gonna sit here and say A. R.

1025
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 7: Franklin should have been here, or you got to keep

1026
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 7: Michael Piman Junior and also pay Alec Pierce. But I'm

1027
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 7: also looking at Okay, how do you find audicual replacements?

1028
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 7: And I don't know if the cult have really done that, Jake,

1029
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 7: And it puts so much pressure on you to crush

1030
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 7: the draft. Now just one pick you need like multiple

1031
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 7: dudes in this draft.

1032
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: What do you believe now? By the way, interesting because

1033
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: you said you don't think Kenny Moore irritated anybody on

1034
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: his way out. No, but he's not out yet, right

1035
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: fair well, I mean.

1036
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 6: On his way to potentially being out.

1037
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Put it like that, what do you think what would

1038
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: your guest be on what Kenny Moore's value is.

1039
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 7: I think that his value at the most wild probably

1040
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 7: be a fifth round pick.

1041
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna say a fifth round pick.

1042
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 7: Day three pick, fifth round pick, maybe six, just because

1043
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 7: of the age, and he's had some injury stuff pop

1044
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 7: up the last couple of years. I don't even know

1045
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 7: if he's played like a full season in his career.

1046
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 7: To be fair to Kenny, that doesn't mean like he's

1047
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 7: missed a bunch of times, but every year he misses

1048
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 7: a couple of games with something. So I would say

1049
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 7: at the most a fifth round pick will be good.

1050
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 7: And for the Colt's purposes, they do you know, they

1051
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 7: want to get more picks. They only have seven going

1052
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 7: into it. They need another one and hey, maybe that's

1053
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 7: not happening.

1054
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: If they get a fifth round or for him though,

1055
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: and again but he's this is to me where I

1056
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: just I can't get over this point or this fact. Okay, James,

1057
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: if you look at Kenny Moore, who's going to be

1058
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: thirty one years old in camp, he's been a really

1059
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: good player, productive player, a thirty one year old Kenny Moore.

1060
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: Like I said, and I'm trying to think of a

1061
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: team off the top of my head that could use

1062
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: a rotational nickel and or they have a solid piece there,

1063
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: but they need an insurance policy, and they're right on

1064
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: the doorstep of being you know, where they want to be.

1065
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: That's where he would go. And let's say they give

1066
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: a fifth round or form okay, there are seemingly there

1067
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: would be even more of a finite audience for that.

1068
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: Then there would be for a built like adonnas oozing

1069
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: with potential tantalizing highlights that you see here and there

1070
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: under the age of twenty five year old quarterback. Yet,

1071
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: considering that Anthony Richardson was a top five pick that

1072
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: has all of those things that I just mentioned theoretically

1073
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: is sitting still in the front yard with the sign

1074
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: on it that at one point said fifteen hundred dollars

1075
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: and now it just says make an offer, and he's

1076
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: still sitting in the front yard. That is a massive, massive,

1077
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: massive indictment on the biggest swing and miss at the

1078
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: time that they most needed a base hit or even

1079
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: a home run. But a base hit would have been

1080
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: sufficient in the tenure of Chris Ballard and if Kenny Moore,

1081
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: if they are if they're able to move Kenny Moore

1082
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: before they're able to move Anthony Richardson, to me, that

1083
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: tells me more about the miss of Richardson than it

1084
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: does the hit they had in the long ago signing

1085
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: of Kenny Moore. For sure.

1086
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 7: I think it also ties into the positions we're talking

1087
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 7: about quarterback. You miss with that picking that high that

1088
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 7: looked at a lot differently than.

1089
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: That's what I mean in most And I'm not sitting

1090
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: here calling for someone's job. I don't want it to

1091
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: go off that way. But what's but James, that is

1092
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: a swing in the mist that costs most people their job.

1093
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 6: Right, No, that is a very fair assessment.

1094
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 7: And look, I am the guy who published an article

1095
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 7: minutes after the season ended, Orion Houston saying fire this guy,

1096
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 7: that guy being Chris ballor But with regard to Anthony,

1097
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 7: I think I'm at the point now where we have

1098
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 7: to seriously consider, as media members and even as fans,

1099
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 7: could this.

1100
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 6: Guy be cut? And how bad that would look overall.

1101
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 7: Because every time we talk about him with the Colts,

1102
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 7: particularly when it comes to Shane's sykeen, it's as if

1103
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 7: Anthony is already off the team, Like when we talk

1104
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 7: about Daniel Jones.

1105
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 6: It's the toughness there's Riley, it's the progress.

1106
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: They put themselves in position where they can't bring him back, right.

1107
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 7: That's what That's what I think. Like, I know Chris

1108
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 7: is like, oh, you know, so here it is Roberg.

1109
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 7: And last week we're in Phoenix for the owner's meetings.

1110
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 7: We talked to Chris Ballard one day and we're asking

1111
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 7: about Anthony and oh, you know, I'll leave the door open.

1112
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 6: He could possibly be back. You know, we still believe

1113
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 6: in him.

1114
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 7: The very next day I asked Shane stikeen, Hey, by

1115
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 7: the way, your GM said that it's a possibility he

1116
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 7: can still be here. Have he's been in contact with them?

1117
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 7: Where's that stand? Oh, we'll see how that goes. Hey,

1118
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 7: is he going to be here by the way for

1119
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 7: off season training? You know, ar needs reps. We got

1120
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 7: to see if he can still see and all that. Oh,

1121
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 7: I haven't talked to him. Well, you know, I haven't

1122
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 7: discussed that with them yet. What does that tell you?

1123
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 7: That is a guy that it sounds like they're not

1124
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 7: all that more invested in anymore. So I can't really

1125
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 7: buy the whole way Anthony could still be brought back.

1126
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: Thing.

1127
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 6: I think that that would be sort of a distraction

1128
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 6: for the team.

1129
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken was brought in initially because he was not

1130
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: as much as Frank Reich was supposed to be. But

1131
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback whisperer, right. Frank lost his job

1132
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: here partially because he was the quarterback whisper that was

1133
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: going to be the one that was going to make

1134
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz acceptable to the owner. The owner didn't like

1135
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. It didn't work out. Frank Reich eventually, he

1136
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: was a quarterback whisperer that was never able to whisper

1137
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: that message. Shane Sikein's not necessarily thought of as the

1138
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: same quarterback whisper, but that was part of the selling point.

1139
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: I like Shane Stikeen, I do. But part of why

1140
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 1: I like Shane Stikeen is because I respect the fact

1141
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: that Shane Steiken you can tell, was like, I'm not

1142
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback whisper. I was screaming to this guy and

1143
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: it didn't get through. Doesn't mean Anthony Richardson's a bad guy.

1144
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, whatever message, whatever button they were

1145
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: trying to push with him, it never consistently fired. And

1146
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: at this point, unlike any other position in the National

1147
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: Football leagu James and you tell me if you disagree,

1148
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: But unlike any other position, in the National Football League.

1149
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: Quarterback is one of them that once you put it

1150
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: on the shelf, you can't go back to it. No,

1151
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 1: it's over.

1152
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 6: No, it's over again.

1153
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 7: I don't think you can go back to it to

1154
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 7: a point where we will be going into the training

1155
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 7: camp last one in Westfield, by the way, and we're

1156
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 7: discussing whether or not Anthony Richardson is competing for the

1157
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 7: QB two job, right, like, and I get it on paper,

1158
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 7: I understand the fan base, but we're just saying, like, hey,

1159
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 7: wait a second, Daniel could get hurt when we trust Riley.

1160
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 6: Is Anthony a better option than Riley?

1161
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 7: I would still probably argue that Anthony Richardson, who's eight

1162
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 7: and seven is an NFL starter, is probably a better.

1163
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 6: Backup than Riley.

1164
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.

1165
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 6: The team has not said that whatsoever.

1166
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, it's the symbolism of it.

1167
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 6: Yes, I agree.

1168
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: The most popular player in any franchise is the backup

1169
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: quarter yep, right. And if you have a backup quarterback,

1170
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: what do I always say? Backup quarterbacks are a donut tire.

1171
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: A donut tire is perfectly sufficient on your car. When

1172
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 1: the tire goes out and you need something to get

1173
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: you three more exits to the tire store. But if

1174
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: you try to continue and finish your entire interstate journey

1175
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: on your donut tire, you got a real problem. Yeah,

1176
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: And it doesn't take long before you figure out the

1177
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: donut tires on the car. And that's what the backup

1178
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: quarterback is. If you have a backup quarterback that is seemingly,

1179
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: in symbolism, a threat to the starting quarterback, you've got

1180
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: a problem. And if you have a backup quarterback that

1181
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's a shrinking percentage, but a percentage of your

1182
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: fan base still believes is your future because that's what

1183
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: he was billed as from the time you brought him

1184
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: in in you can't have it, he can't have it. Right.

1185
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: He could be a backup quarterback in Arizona, he could

1186
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: be a backup quarterback in Los Angeles, he could be

1187
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in Atlanta, because they're not investing in

1188
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: what they're using to him. But a quarterback is measured

1189
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: oftentimes on where and how they were acquired.

1190
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 7: Yes, and that will hang over you until that quarterback

1191
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 7: is no longer a part of the picture. Correct, And

1192
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 7: so we'll see how it all plays out, I'm very curious.

1193
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 7: I mean, eleven days from now they'll rejoin four team

1194
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 7: activities and I get that it's voluntary, but will Anthony

1195
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 7: Richardson be there?

1196
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 6: That's a question. It's a legitimate question.

1197
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 7: And I'm not saying it's going to be like the

1198
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 7: headlining news of what's going on at OTAs, but it

1199
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 7: is a rather for me. I'm being nosy about where

1200
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 7: things stand, and that will tell you a lot about

1201
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 7: where things stand.

1202
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 6: Because one, he needs reps. We have to see if he.

1203
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 7: Can see right like I've been told that he can see.

1204
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 7: I've been told that he's got twenty twenty vision when

1205
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 7: he's using both of his eyes. But again, what does

1206
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 7: that look like in practice? And for a guy who've

1207
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 7: always said needs reps, what does it say at the

1208
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 7: team or he decides, you know what, stay away and

1209
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 7: it's better off that way when you haven't played much

1210
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 7: in your career.

1211
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: So we'll see the great quote from Edrin James, Edrin James,

1212
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: when the Colts had there was a year where Edrin

1213
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: James was and you know what, it was literally shame

1214
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: on all of us. I don't mean you, Edgrin James

1215
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: had a year where there was you know, he had

1216
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: gotten hurt. He tore his knee in Kansas City. There

1217
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: was a speculation as to whether or not his knee

1218
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: was further injured in a practice Jay Moore and Bill

1219
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: Pollion and the famous rant on Mark Patrick's radio show

1220
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: with J and V running the show back in those days,

1221
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: and this narrative was created that Edrin James was unhappy,

1222
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: he wanted out of Indy, he wasn't going to report

1223
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: to camp. What kind of shape is he going to

1224
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: be in? And we all assumed that Edrin James was

1225
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: playing hardball and holding out an unhappy and rebellious and

1226
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: in reality, he was down in a Machili, Florida, doing

1227
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: workouts and commitments and getting his body in shape to

1228
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: a level that very few players in the history of

1229
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: the league have ever done, and was the ultimate professional

1230
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: who absolutely loved his owner. And we all swung and

1231
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: missed on that storyline, yeah, tenfold. But at that time,

1232
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: there was a volunteery excuse me, voluntary team, you know OTAs,

1233
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: and Edrin James wasn't there, and we're all like, oh

1234
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: my gosh, Edrin James' massive story Yeah, and his great

1235
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: quote of all time. I might not have gone to

1236
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: college for four years, but I know what voluntary means

1237
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: and I respect that. And then they had their exhibition

1238
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: game in Benny and Japan in Tokyo, and Edrin James

1239
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: wasn't going to go because he didn't want to get

1240
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: on a plane for that long, and that was his quote.

1241
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: The closest I'm getting to Tokyo is Benny Hannah walking quote.

1242
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 6: Shoot a chance to give.

1243
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: He was the best. But the point being, we we

1244
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: deciphered incorrectly where things stood with him. I don't think

1245
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: that we're deciphering incorrectly where things stand with Anthony Richardson,

1246
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: because I believe what you have and we saw in

1247
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: this town. We have seen what happens when you have

1248
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: a coach and GM that are not side by side

1249
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: and step with Chuck mcgonne and Ryan Grigson, and I

1250
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case with Shane Stike and Chris Ballard.

1251
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: But if there is one area that I could see,

1252
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: I could see becoming kind of that sticky point between

1253
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: the two of them, it would be the possibility that

1254
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson becomes this miscommunication, so to speak, because Chris

1255
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: Ballard still is one that depending on what happens with

1256
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. If Daniel Jones comes back, plays well and

1257
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones that looked like what we saw the

1258
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: first quarter of the season, then the Richardson things becomes

1259
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: totally irrelevant. But if Daniel Jones becomes New York Giant

1260
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: releasing him despite paying him a ton of money, Daniel Jones,

1261
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: then you're in a real pickle at the quarterback position,

1262
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: and the swing and miss on Anthony Richardson becomes that

1263
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: much more pertinent. And Chris Ballard knows that he is

1264
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: still attached to that somewhat, whereas Shane Styken to me

1265
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: seems like a head coach that is totally past that

1266
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: guy and is like, you know what, no, like, it's

1267
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: not what I need. That quarterback is not what I need.

1268
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: And Shane Styken a me to me, appears to be

1269
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: a guy that has no interest in that being an

1270
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: option for him, and Ballard I don't think has totally

1271
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 1: ruled it out because Ballard knows that if he totally

1272
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: rules it out, it's an indictment on one person not

1273
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: named Anthony Richardson, and that's Chris Ballard.

1274
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 6: I think that's a very fair assessment.

1275
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 7: I don't want to let Shane off the hook because again,

1276
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 7: we were talking to him when they drafted Anthony, and

1277
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 7: a lot of the conversation was I can help get

1278
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 7: this guy to where he needs to go. I can

1279
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 7: help develop him, so he's not absolved. But yes, the

1280
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 7: biggest staying would be on the GM. And again when

1281
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 7: it comes to Anthony and the lack of development and

1282
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 7: the lack of production, all of the above, my biggest

1283
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 7: quip or gripe rather that's a better word for it,

1284
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 7: would be you all told us that he was a

1285
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 7: hard worker. You all told us that he loves football.

1286
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 7: No matter what, you all told us, he would do

1287
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 7: all little threats. You told us you vetted this, I

1288
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 7: mean down to I don't know.

1289
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: His fourth grade. You told us that if you had

1290
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: the number one pick, that's who you took.

1291
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 7: Right, and then we fast forward a couple of seasons

1292
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 7: and it's wait a second, he's not exactly working as

1293
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 7: hard as he should have been.

1294
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: By the way, what do you mean, Eddie, do you

1295
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: happen to have uh did you hear, Eddie? Did you

1296
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: hear or did you feel a slight breeze coming here.

1297
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: I haven't felt the breeze in a while. I haven't either,

1298
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: and there sometimes I don't know it's the breeze. All

1299
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: of a sudden I felt it, and I looked over

1300
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: how long? And behold it's true. Our friend, Robin the

1301
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: genie has appeared. Correct. He is Robin. It's been a while.

1302
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: I talked to Stephen Holder yesterday, who said he didn't

1303
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: like I Dream of Jeanie the TV show he has?

1304
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 2: I know Steven did to me.

1305
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, it seems to be a bit of contention, though, Robin,

1306
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: did you have yes?

1307
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: I hit the question for James Boyd?

1308
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 6: Okay, what's up? Robin?

1309
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: How any hell do you get up at five thirty?

1310
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: In the very good question for Robin.

1311
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 8: But my real question for James Boyd is this. I'm

1312
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 8: going to give you a question you would write. Danielle

1313
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 8: answered the envelope and we will open it in five

1314
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 8: years if you'll correct you in one million dollars?

1315
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: Okay?

1316
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: Does Robin pay his debts atdy do we know? I

1317
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: don't think he has yet? Right?

1318
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: He owes Joela Erics in a million? Doesn't he did?

1319
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 1: He is correct?

1320
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: He?

1321
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is Joel he was older, and that's why

1322
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: Holder's dead to him. My understanding is Robin the genie

1323
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: broke her to deal with the beer ferry to deliver

1324
01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: to Joela Erics in the payoff the debt.

1325
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: Did he correct? Yes, being very very good loyal.

1326
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 8: Okay, Robin, you have a question, James, Yes, it is correct,

1327
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 8: James Boyd, I would like for you to tell me,

1328
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 8: in the year twenty thirty, which of the quarterbacks that

1329
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 8: were most in conversation when Anthony Richardson was drafted will

1330
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 8: actually be the one having the best NFL career in

1331
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:28,440
Speaker 8: the year twenty thirty version c J. Strout Anthony Richardson

1332
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 8: or the mayonnaise boy Will levis excellent question for Robin

1333
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 8: because it seems to be one that fluctuates in potential answers.

1334
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 7: Man Boy, Boy Boy twenty thirty. So four years from now,

1335
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 7: I'm gonna roll with oh Man two horse race for me.

1336
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: The show's over at three. C J.

1337
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 6: Stroud.

1338
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 7: I get that he had a down year and he

1339
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 7: looked awful in the playoffs, but I also feel like

1340
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 7: kind of overestimating how easy it would be to find

1341
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 7: a guy who can.

1342
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 6: Get you to the playoffs. In the first place.

1343
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: Bryce Shung was starting to play a little bit.

1344
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 7: I know, I feel like whenever he does that he

1345
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 7: dips a little too. He's also smaller, so I'm like,

1346
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 7: durability wise, are you going to hold up for four

1347
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 7: more years?

1348
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: All right? James Boyd, you'll hear him seven o'clock in

1349
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: the morning coming up on Monday, along with Kevin Bow

1350
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: and jeff Rickord talking about Kenny Moore and the weekend

1351
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: of Sports. James, the pleasure is always. I'll let you

1352
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: get back to writing. Appreciate you speaking of writing. A

1353
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: guy that's going to be doing that. About the Domers,

1354
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 1: Tom Noyd, friend of the show next thanks to James

1355
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: Boyd or his discussion on the situation Kenny Moore, the

1356
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: second and the Colts. Looks like that partnership may be

1357
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: coming to an end. But again, as James had mentioned,

1358
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: the one good thing is if it for some reason

1359
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: there is no trade partner or whatever else. It's not

1360
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 1: like it's some ugly divorce. It's rather a we're.

1361
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: Allowing each other to see other people. We'll see what

1362
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: comes of that.

1363
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: Tom Noy is our friend from the South Bend Tribune.

1364
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Of course, Notre Dame is in spring football, as about

1365
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: every program is, and thought we would get kind of

1366
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: an update on where things stand with the Irish, so

1367
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 1: we bring them out of the program. Tom, how are you?

1368
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us? Doing good one man? How you

1369
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: been you know what? No complaints? And the one thing

1370
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: I will say is it seemingly it feels like there

1371
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of is no offseason though when it comes to football,

1372
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: because of course it's unusual around here that you're coming

1373
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: three months away from the Indiana football season ending, right,

1374
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: I mean, that was obviously a unique situation. But here

1375
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 1: we are in the spring and you begin to again

1376
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: look forward. And with Notre Dame, we certainly know the

1377
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: storyline of them from a year ago and not getting

1378
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: in and et cetera. But this team, in terms of

1379
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: the things that they may be trying to retool or

1380
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: tweak and spring football looks in any way, shape or

1381
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: form different how than when you last saw them.

1382
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 9: I'll take four takeaways from what I've seen from spring

1383
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 9: football from the University of Notreame football program.

1384
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: TJ.

1385
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 9: Carr is an elite quarterback. The offensive line is really good.

1386
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 9: The defense maybe the top defensive unit in the country.

1387
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 9: From top to bottom D line, linebacker, secondary, and it

1388
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 9: would be an absolute shock, even more so than what

1389
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,520
Speaker 9: happened at the end of last season. If come the

1390
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 9: third week of January, we are not in Allegiant Stadium

1391
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 9: in Las Vegas and this team is playing for a

1392
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 9: national championship.

1393
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so they're decent. Is that what we're getting at?

1394
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 9: Yes, they're really good and they're really motivated. Given how

1395
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 9: twenty twenty five ended, you say there's no offseason, but

1396
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 9: here it really feels like it was a lifetime ago

1397
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 9: compared to what it was when they played for the

1398
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 9: national championship, and it almost like they almost springboard right

1399
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 9: into spring football. It felt like the first couple of

1400
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 9: days of spring that it had been forever since we

1401
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 9: were able to watch another any football team do football stuff.

1402
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple of things with that, and I

1403
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: want to begin with the offensive line. That's an area

1404
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: am I correct in saying? And maybe I'm totally wrong here,

1405
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But

1406
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 1: a solid unit, but one that might have some what

1407
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: re entry or reshuffling in terms of its personnel? Am

1408
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: I wrong in that? No?

1409
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 9: In regard to reshuffling, Anthony Knapp, who stunned everybody by

1410
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 9: starting as a true freshman his first game, oh by

1411
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 9: the way, in College Station on that Saturday night two

1412
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 9: years ago, has been the starting left tackle since first

1413
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 9: day of spring practice. We look up and Anthony Napp

1414
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 9: is now the starting left guard because they have a

1415
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 9: we'll have a red shirt freshman by the name of

1416
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 9: Will Black who looks like he's cut in the same

1417
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 9: mold of a Mike McGlinchey and a Joe Aalt at

1418
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 9: left hand. You put him there and you leave him

1419
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 9: there for however long he decides he's going to play

1420
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 9: college football. So there's the reshuffling right there. The starting center,

1421
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 9: Indiana native Ashton Craig, stresses that he will be back

1422
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 9: for fall camp. He's been down with an acl since

1423
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 9: the middle of last year, so Joe Odding has stepped

1424
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 9: in and done a real solid job there. So there's

1425
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 9: always reshuffling on the offensive line. But one thing that

1426
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 9: you know about Joe Rudolph is he's going to shuffle

1427
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 9: the pieces around the board and whatever he comes up

1428
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 9: with when it comes to the offensive line, it notre dame.

1429
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 9: It's going to work, and it's going to work really well.

1430
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: And obviously the line. One of the key responsibilities there

1431
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: is to facilitate and go with a ground game, which

1432
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has you know, clearly had been stout and

1433
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: that in the past running the football Notre Dame. For

1434
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: this year, the perspective looks what still to be determined

1435
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: because there is no It.

1436
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 9: Was weird when we were in the spring practice that

1437
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 9: first day last month and you look at the running

1438
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 9: back spot and there is no Jeremiah Love and there

1439
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 9: is no Jadarian Price. So Nias Williams he wants to

1440
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 9: be running back one. I don't know if we're going

1441
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 9: to get that type of production as they did last

1442
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 9: year from him, But you know what, that's okay because

1443
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 9: what they're going to lack in the run game, they'll

1444
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 9: more than make up for with a guy named CJ.

1445
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: Carr at quarterback. Yeah, so you're obviously in CJ. Carr,

1446
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: I thought, and I think Tom tom Noy is my

1447
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: guest from the South Bend Tribune. You you'd correct me

1448
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: if you disagree with this, But being a freshman quarterback

1449
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,520
Speaker 1: or the starting quarterback right out of the box, essentially

1450
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: for a Notre Dame, it is in fact different than

1451
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: doing it at most schools. I mean, you know, even

1452
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: in Alabama sometimes they have so many weapons you can

1453
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: kind of mask if the guy's got to kind of

1454
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: grow on the job. There's just so that's an expectation

1455
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 1: and a spotlight at Notre Dame that I think anything

1456
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: shy of a completely abysmal and disastrous start. You've got

1457
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: to give a guy some benefit of the doubt, just

1458
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: because of everything that goes into that job versus other places.

1459
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: And I thought he handled all of that, at least

1460
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: seemingly from the outside, really really well.

1461
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 9: He did, but he did lose his first two starts,

1462
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 9: and there were people wondering because that quarterback competition went

1463
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 9: so deep into fall camp, really up until the last

1464
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 9: possible day before this program started its prep from Miami,

1465
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:38,799
Speaker 9: before they named the starting quarterback. But Steve Angeli transfers

1466
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 9: to Syracuse. Kenny Minshi has landed at Kentucky. There's no

1467
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 9: doubt that it's CJ. Carr's job. And he just looks

1468
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 9: different and looks and carries himself as the number one

1469
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 9: quarterback at Notre Dame, knowing that this is his job,

1470
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 9: this is his team, and for all intents and purposes.

1471
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: This is his season. Marcus Freeman is another one. Getting

1472
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 1: opportunity at Notre Dame is different than other places, and

1473
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 1: no position of that Tom would be any obviously bigger

1474
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: than at head coach. And I have said on this

1475
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: show a billion times I grew up and didn't like

1476
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Either love or you hate Notre Dame. Right,

1477
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: it's there's no nobody's over there, like, yeah, they're okay,

1478
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, And it's kind of like Dave Matthew's band.

1479
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 2: Do you like the Dave Matthews band, Tom, They're okay,

1480
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: like people are all in on them or they're just

1481
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: like yeah, But.

1482
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: I guess nobody hates the Dave Matthews band. But either way,

1483
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at I really like Marcus Freeman and

1484
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: and I think I've told you that before in the

1485
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: conversations we've had. I really like him, But at the

1486
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: same time, he was, you know, thrown into that situation

1487
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: and at times had to kind of learn on the job.

1488
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: But it seemed like the learning curve was not steep

1489
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: for him. Has He in fact, though, made some tweaks

1490
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: in terms of his coaching versus when he first was

1491
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: a sindate to that position.

1492
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 9: We will find that out the first month of the

1493
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 9: season because he has been so good in having to

1494
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 9: play as the underdog the last two years. When they

1495
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 9: lose to Northern Illinois, they have no choice but to

1496
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 9: win out to get to the playoffs. Last year, when

1497
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 9: you start zero to two, they have no choice but

1498
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 9: to win out to get to possibly play for the playoffs.

1499
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 9: What can this team do as a front runner? We

1500
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 9: don't know, Like, can can they run the table early

1501
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 9: with Wisconsin and Rice in Michigan State and Purdue and

1502
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 9: be four and oh after September or b five and

1503
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 9: oh as October years to and then what kind of

1504
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 9: coach is Marcus Freeman then, because he's always played the

1505
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 9: underdog role so well, where is to There's no choice.

1506
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 1: We have to win this game, you know, we have to.

1507
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 9: We have to have this sense of urgency and all

1508
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 9: this stuff that he likes to talk about. Can they

1509
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:56,799
Speaker 9: have that from.

1510
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: The jump and not have to.

1511
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 9: Be like, oh my god, we gotten no choice but

1512
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 9: the win or we're not going to the playoffs. That

1513
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 9: will be the mark of who Marcus Freeman is as

1514
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 9: a head coach. And I think that's what we'll see

1515
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 9: this year because they really should run the table from

1516
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 9: start to finish.

1517
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: Tom, I want to mix in one and by the way,

1518
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: let me I want to make sure that people understand

1519
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: this because I think most you know have heard you

1520
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: on with me, hopefully over the course of the last

1521
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: couple of years. But for you to say that this

1522
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 1: is not folks somebody that just because they are covering

1523
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: the team locally that they're bullish on them, because you're

1524
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: pretty candidate now in the middle when it comes to

1525
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: Irish football and you're not afraid to call it out

1526
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: if you don't believe you know what I mean. So

1527
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: that says something that carries some merit in terms of

1528
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: your assessment of where they could be. I wanted to

1529
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: ask one basket to basketball real quick. We had Michael

1530
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: Shrewsbury on during the Final four, Like, Michael Shrewsbury a

1531
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:58,440
Speaker 1: great deal and yet obviously it has been a challenge

1532
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: for their basketball program. And I asked him flat out

1533
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: when we were talking about nil. He said, you know,

1534
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: there's two programs, haves and have nots. And I said, well,

1535
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: which is Notre Dame And he said, we are a

1536
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: have not and we've got to turn that around. The

1537
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 1: transfer portal, at least as of right now, has not

1538
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: been kind to the Irish. Where do things stand with

1539
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Michael Shrewsbury in his footing in South Bend?

1540
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 9: Very shaky and I don't know if it's ever going

1541
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 9: to be on firm footing. And I do I qualify

1542
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 9: every comment I make about Notre Dame men's basketball since

1543
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 9: I've been the beat writer here for.

1544
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 1: Twenty eight years.

1545
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 9: With Michael Shrewsbury needs to be a better coach from

1546
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 9: top to bottom. He needs to coach better, He needs

1547
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 9: to recruit better, he needs to develop talent better. He

1548
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 9: just needs to win more. But that said, if there's

1549
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 9: anybody in a Power for conference job that was set

1550
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 9: up to basically fail from the minute he walked in

1551
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 9: the door, given academics, given transfer portal, given nil, given

1552
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 9: all that stuff, the periphery of just wins and losses

1553
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 9: and scoring more points than the other.

1554
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,520
Speaker 1: Team, it was MICHAELH. Shrewsbury.

1555
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 9: Because whereas Pete Bavaqua can sit down with Marcus Freeman

1556
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 9: and confidently say, Marcus, we have in you every chance

1557
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 9: and every opportunity to go and win a national championship

1558
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 9: and to be successful. He cannot say anything close to that.

1559
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 9: When it comes to Notre Y men's basketball and Micaeus Shrewsbury.

1560
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, there was a game this year.

1561
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: I think it was it cal if I'm not mistaken Tom,

1562
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: where there was a call or a miscall late in

1563
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: the game and Michael Shrewsbury absolutely lost control. I mean

1564
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: he basically had to be restrained from the officials. And

1565
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: sometimes those things the lens by which we critique them

1566
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: is determined and based upon how successful the program's been

1567
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: to that point. You know, Bob Knight does that, and

1568
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: he's a fiery competitor. Michael Shrewsbury does that, and boy,

1569
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, why do he lose his mind? But I

1570
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 1: wondered in that moment, and again preface with I really

1571
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: like him, But I wondered at that moment, if the

1572
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 1: pressures and the challenges of the job, if we didn't

1573
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: see it all boiling over right there? Am I overthinking

1574
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: that a little bit?

1575
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 9: What you saw was a guy who was four seconds

1576
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 9: away from having his program start to and O in

1577
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 9: the ACC for the first.

1578
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Time since twenty seventeen.

1579
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 9: And to start to and O that kind of changes

1580
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 9: the entire tenor around the program. Now the fans are interested. Now,

1581
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 9: maybe they're going to cut them some slack. Now, Maybe

1582
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 9: the game the following week against Clemson at home takes

1583
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 9: on a little different meeting and looks a little different.

1584
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 9: Instead of two and oh you're one in one, you

1585
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 9: lose the way they lost, like they gave up a

1586
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 9: four point play when they were up three with two

1587
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 9: point two seconds to play. So it was that frustration,

1588
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 9: and I think it's just the frustration of what these

1589
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 9: last three years have been like for Michael Shrewsbury, because yes,

1590
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 9: again he needs to be a better coach, but I

1591
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 9: feel I think he feels he's never really been able

1592
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 9: to show what he can do and guess, but now

1593
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 9: you've got to go do it in twenty six, twenty seven,

1594
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 9: after losing six players to the transfer portal and really

1595
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,879
Speaker 9: your top three in coul Surah, Marcus Burton and Jalen Harrelson,

1596
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 9: we have no idea what this program is going to

1597
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 9: look like, but it's not going to look anything like

1598
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 9: it should in year four for Micah Shrewsbury, and I

1599
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 9: just don't know if there's a path for him and

1600
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 9: a path for a Notre dame out of this mediocrity

1601
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 9: that they find themselves in.

1602
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1603
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: Tom, lastly, I'm going to reveal this and give the

1604
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain for all the listeners here, for

1605
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: both of them. The I don't know. A couple of

1606
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I called you. You and I have never

1607
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: really talked outside of just on the radio show, but

1608
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: I called you with a question for you, and then

1609
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 1: you and I ended up talking, if I'm not mistaken,

1610
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: for two and a half hours on the telephone, didn't

1611
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: we Isn't that right?

1612
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

1613
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 9: And my wife when I said, Jace, call me and

1614
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 9: she's like, you mean that guy that you're talking for

1615
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 9: two and a half hours that night.

1616
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: That's right, that's exactly. At least you didn't say the

1617
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: state farm gag.

1618
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: I've only heard that ten thousand times in my life.

1619
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: So you think her for me? I appreciate it, right, Yes,

1620
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: I will. Tom appreciate the time. As always. Tom Noy's

1621
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: been with the South Been Tribune since nineteen ninety two,

1622
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 1: which is almost as long as he and I chatted

1623
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: on the phone, and we got to everything, including the

1624
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: Dave Matthew's been in our conversation. Tom appreciate the time

1625
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: as always, man, we'll talk to you soon. Well, wow,

1626
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: he did you know? Wasn't even a thank you there?

1627
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: How about that? All that? And he just hangs up.

1628
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: Did you now was that you? Eddie?

1629
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 5: Did you do that?

1630
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: Or did he do that? That was him? I think

1631
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: Tom just said okay, fine, that was it? Right? Does

1632
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: he like Dave Matthews that much? Did I seem to

1633
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: rub him the wrong way with that? Maybe the wife was.

1634
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 2: Like he was it the What are we blaming the

1635
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 2: wife or the wife? We get out there and move

1636
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: the crash?

1637
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: Which is it?

1638
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 2: Right?

1639
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: Damn it? Forty three minutes from now, Indiana's newest mister

1640
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: Basketball going to join us. By the way, Eddie, do

1641
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 1: you happen to have before you the injury report? Thanks

1642
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: to Tom Noyd by the way for hanging up on us.

1643
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 1: Do you happen to have the injury report for the

1644
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Pacers and seventy six ers tonight at Gambridge Field House.

1645
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: Pacers with two games left tonight and Detroit, they need

1646
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: to drop one of those games to cement themselves the

1647
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: best overall percentages for the draft staying here with their

1648
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: pick and everything not going food bar. Yes, I do

1649
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: have the injury report. How many pacers are listed as

1650
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:26,799
Speaker 1: out for tonight one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay,

1651
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: we're not counting Johnny Furfeet, Tyrese Halliburton, and so those

1652
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: two in Pascal Siatle, Well, okay, So you're saying there's

1653
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: five beyond those two, right, Yes, okay, Pascal Siakam, that

1654
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: is correct. He's out the ankle spring. Yes, there's five

1655
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: that are out. M okay, So sia COM's out. Nim

1656
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: Hard Andrew nim Hart is out. Yeah, with that thoracic

1657
01:27:55,160 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 1: and lumbar injury management. Aaron Ne Smith he is sidelined

1658
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: with a cervical strain.

1659
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: TJ.

1660
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 1: Mccondall he is.

1661
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: On the bench tonight in street closed because if a

1662
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: builateral hamstring injury management situation he's got going on.

1663
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: So I'm missing one correct? Yes? Is this a is

1664
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: this what I should know that's been common? Or is

1665
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: this a new huh? Yes, we said McConnell, Smith, and

1666
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: dem Marden, Haliburton, Furfey, yes, Seaham, Yes, and there's one more. Yes.

1667
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm spacing on this.

1668
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Go ahead. Viza Zubatsh with a rib fracture. Okay, so

1669
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: you have tonight three players are questionable. Do you want

1670
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 2: to guess those players? The questionable players would be Jaris Walker.

1671
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: That is correct with the sacral contusion, Okay, Obi Toppin.

1672
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Remember sacral is near the cocsicks, which is the tailbone,

1673
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: Obi Toppin, Yeah, not on the injury report, okay, Ben Shephard,

1674
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Ben Shephard is on the injury report tonight questionable right

1675
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: hip strain sprain.

1676
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: Sorry, and I'll go with.

1677
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: Quentin Jackson. No, who's the last one? Kobe Brown? Okay,

1678
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: lumbar sprain, Yeah, that's that lumbar.

1679
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1680
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 2: For the seventy six ers, three players out, Joel embiid

1681
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 2: appendectomy recovery, jan I Broome right knee surgery recovery, Cameron Payne,

1682
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: former pacer, right hamstring strain out, Tyres Maxie available dealing

1683
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 2: with a right finger tendon strain.

1684
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Paul George. That would be in a splint. Did Paul George,

1685
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: just by the way, serve The quietest multi game suspension

1686
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 1: in NBA history was the twenty five games. Yeah, and

1687
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: like there was I don't think anybody really You hardly

1688
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: heard about it when it happened, and you certainly didn't

1689
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: hear about it, you know, even after that. Kevin Bowen

1690
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: big news in the colts today from West fifty six.

1691
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,680
Speaker 1: When it comes to Kenny Moore, Kevin Bowen going to

1692
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: join us next, we will go over that, and then

1693
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 1: Indianda mister basketball, bottom of the hour, checking in on

1694
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 1: things in Augusta. The Masters leaderboard right now, Tyrell Hatton

1695
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: is five under. He is through sixteen in round number two.

1696
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: But the big mover today would be Wyndham Clark shooting

1697
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: a sixty eight today. He is at four under and

1698
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: he has done for the day. Rory McElroy is still

1699
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,360
Speaker 1: at five under, but he is just through one here

1700
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: in round number two. Justin Rose also right there, so

1701
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: too Sam Burns and Patrick Reid. All of those are

1702
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:52,440
Speaker 1: four under right now. But the only two have completed

1703
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: round number two so far is Clark and he finds

1704
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: himself four under through two joining us now on the program.

1705
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 1: I who of course you can see. And now last

1706
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 1: year when we did our golf outing, Kevin Bowen and

1707
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it was by design, but

1708
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: he went out and decided that he was going to

1709
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: show off on one of his drives and then he

1710
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: ended up having to stay there and do a t

1711
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 1: shot for every group that came through and was there

1712
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:18,959
Speaker 1: for five and a half hours. It was impressive dedication

1713
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: from Kevin. He joins us on the program, Kevin, you

1714
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: golfed last win. When is the last time that he

1715
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: went out and played a round of golf?

1716
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 10: I have yet to play here in twenty twenty six,

1717
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 10: so I've got the itch to say the least.

1718
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: How many times in the off season did you go

1719
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 1: out and swing the clubs like at a you know,

1720
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: some sort of simulator that kind of thing.

1721
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 4: Oh, probably probably four or.

1722
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Five, Okay, typically for those that are getting set like

1723
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: myself to go out next week my first round and

1724
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm not and you know, as you know, I'm a

1725
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:57,520
Speaker 1: beginning golfer. But how often do you typically find it takes?

1726
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: How many rounds does it take to kind of get

1727
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: back pardon the pun into the swing of it and

1728
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: to just kind of get your feel back.

1729
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

1730
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, I think probably more of it is

1731
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 10: just you know, I know, you venture to the old

1732
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 10: Riverside driving range.

1733
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 1: Of time or two.

1734
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 10: You know, I think definitely hitting up that probably can

1735
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 10: maybe lessen the need all of a sudden go out

1736
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 10: there and whatever play three rounds a week like we

1737
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 10: would all dream to do. So yeah, I mean, if

1738
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 10: you don't, I guess I want to do the range route.

1739
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 10: It's probably gonna be I don't know, three to five times.

1740
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,759
Speaker 4: But you know, if you try.

1741
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 10: To maybe hit a bucket of balls once a week

1742
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 10: in March and April, then I think you can knock

1743
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 10: some of that rust off.

1744
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the big news of the day.

1745
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 1: And it happened really as you guys were kind of

1746
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 1: winding up this morning, and that is the news of

1747
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore and the Colts basically saying to Kenny Moore,

1748
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: if you can find a good trade partner, we would

1749
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: be open to facilitating that for you. He is entering

1750
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. He will turn thirty

1751
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: one during camp. He has owed nine point four to

1752
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: nine million thishear year. Were you surprised by that news?

1753
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 6: Not overly.

1754
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 10: I do think the timing is a bit odd, if

1755
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 10: I must say, But you know, we had a discussion

1756
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 10: several times during the offseason and the four names I

1757
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 10: kind of laid out where Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman juniors,

1758
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 10: I are Franklin and Kenny Moore. And of those four guys,

1759
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 10: how many would be back now? Again, Pierce obviously was

1760
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 10: a free agent, the other three all in their contract,

1761
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 10: and I just got the feeling you would have at

1762
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 10: least two that were gone. Now did I think all

1763
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 10: three of them?

1764
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: No?

1765
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 10: And you know, obviously once assuming this trade does happen,

1766
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 10: you know, that's just a very uncrispollered like all season.

1767
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 10: And they have lost you know, if you add it up,

1768
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 10: they've lost six what I would call, you know, notable

1769
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 10: to pillar colts, and those six guys is combined to

1770
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 10: start four hundred and ninety six games here in Indy.

1771
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 10: So again it's a very just uncrispowered like off season.

1772
01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 10: But you know, honestly, ever since last spring, I just

1773
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 10: got a little vibe that Leanna Rumo wasn't really going

1774
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 10: to ask of maybe the slot or nickel corner as

1775
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 10: much as previous coordinators did. I got a little bit

1776
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 10: of a vibe that, you know, Kenny maybe didn't love

1777
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 10: love being in this system. I don't think his play

1778
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 10: was at the peak, peak level that we're used to.

1779
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 10: And so anytime you have all of that and you

1780
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 10: have a thirty year old guy that makes notable money.

1781
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 10: Stuff like this happens, especially when the team isn't really winning.

1782
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: What would you get? And by the way, and I

1783
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 1: know you mentioned this this morning, but I want to

1784
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: get more into it as well, Kevin, the big talk

1785
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: last year at camp. I mean, there were a lot

1786
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: of talking points at camp, some of those that we

1787
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: anticipated going in Allah the quarterback situation, but justin Wally

1788
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: was one that he was a big storyline in camp

1789
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: prior to his injury because it seemed as though, and

1790
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me if if you disagree

1791
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 1: with this, I made the comparison earlier that it reminded

1792
01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 1: me of when Andrew Imhard first arrived to the Pacers.

1793
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: Like the Pacers were telling anybody that would listen during

1794
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 1: their camp that year, like, no, this guy's really good,

1795
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: Like we we found something here and people are going

1796
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: to be surprised by it. And I feel like they

1797
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 1: found that. They felt that way with Wally for the Colts,

1798
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 1: and then the injury happened, but very clearly they feel

1799
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: he is healthy and they're going to place a lot

1800
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: on him here with this news today. Agree with that, undoubtedly, yeah.

1801
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 10: I remember Louie an Rumo saying in late December Jake

1802
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 10: that something to the effect on paraphrasing a little bit,

1803
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 10: but justin Wally was having as good of a training

1804
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 10: camp as any rookie corner that I can recall in

1805
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 10: my NFL ten year and that was you know, Lou's

1806
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 10: been in the league. I think this might be year

1807
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 10: fifteen for him in the NFL. So clearly they and

1808
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 10: this is a guy that I don't think loves loves

1809
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 10: playing young guys. And you know, this goes for really

1810
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 10: any industry. I mean, hell, you and I can speak

1811
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,919
Speaker 10: to it. You know, when you have a new boss,

1812
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 10: the people that the new boss bring in are probably

1813
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 10: going to be thought of in a bit of a

1814
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,440
Speaker 10: different light than the people that the new boss inherited.

1815
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 10: So you know, right now you can look at a

1816
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 10: colt's defensive depth chart and in the last twelve months

1817
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 10: you can see who are the lu Amo guys and

1818
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 10: who are not the Lui Narumo guys. And we are

1819
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 10: seeing turnover on that side of the ball that again

1820
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 10: we haven't really seen. You know, part of this again,

1821
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 10: there's age, and there's contracts and all of that goes

1822
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 10: into the puzzle. But that's where I get back to

1823
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:29,960
Speaker 10: what I said to you earlier about it's kind of

1824
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 10: odd timing. You know, contractually, I don't know how much

1825
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 10: you will benefit really from a Kenny Moore trade. Yes,

1826
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 10: you'll save some cap space, but you know, mid April

1827
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 10: is not really the time to use cap space. Mid

1828
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 10: March is the time to use cap space.

1829
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 4: So that's where.

1830
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 10: The the oddity of it falls from me. Like Thesire

1831
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 10: Franklin trade and Michael Pittman junior trade, you know, those

1832
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 10: both occurred during kind of the meat of free agency. Here,

1833
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 10: we're not really there and you're you're probably not too

1834
01:36:58,120 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 10: much in that situation here.

1835
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 4: The rest of the off season, there will be moves.

1836
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 10: But I can't imagine anything too too significant. So that's

1837
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 10: where I do scratch my head a little.

1838
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: What would you guess to get for? Well, I guess

1839
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 1: a better question would be this, do you feel on

1840
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: a one to ten scale, Kevin ten being you know,

1841
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: if this was a sauce gardener, you know, whatever, what

1842
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 1: would you say the market or the demand will be

1843
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: for kennymore one to ten scale?

1844
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 4: You said tennis sauce gardener.

1845
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I probably about a five. You know, I

1846
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 10: think there would be whatever three to five playoff type

1847
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 10: teams that would have interest. You know, if I looked

1848
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 10: at my defense and I thought, hey, if we got

1849
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 10: a veteran, you know, pretty reliable nickel corner in here

1850
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 10: for a Day three draft pick and we feel like

1851
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 10: we're one or two players away, I mean, wouldn't you

1852
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 10: do that?

1853
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 4: Now?

1854
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 10: Again, the Colts really aren't in that boat right now

1855
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 10: as a franchise. But to me, I think I would,

1856
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 10: you know, look into something like that. So you know, again,

1857
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 10: I don't think there's gonna be an absurd amount of

1858
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 10: teams by any means, and you're gonna have to carry

1859
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 10: I think it's cat hits north of ten million here

1860
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 10: for this coming season, so there's.

1861
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 4: Wiggle room with that.

1862
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 10: Again, I don't think he played at his A level

1863
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 10: last year to get out get out of.

1864
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 4: The letter grade.

1865
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 10: Do I still think he can be a you know,

1866
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 10: a slightly above average.

1867
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 4: Player for a year or two?

1868
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: I do? What what do you think in terms of

1869
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen is my guest. Of course, you hear on

1870
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: the Fan Morning Show along with James Boyd and jeff Rickord, Kevin,

1871
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 1: when you look at the draft itself upcoming unique year.

1872
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 1: This year obviously with no first rounder, does not seem

1873
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: to be any indication. Would you agree that Chris Ballard

1874
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: feels any sort of urgency to try to trade back

1875
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 1: into round number one?

1876
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I mean that's gonna be a big oldlasking price.

1877
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 10: I mean, Eddie can play with the trade chart if

1878
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 10: if you like, but I mean to move from the

1879
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 10: middle of two into one.

1880
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot.

1881
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 10: That's a lot to give up, especially when you don't

1882
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 10: have your first next year. So you know, again that's

1883
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 10: pretty foreign to Chris Ballard making a trade up of

1884
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:15,440
Speaker 10: that magnitude.

1885
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 4: I could listen to it, certainly.

1886
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 10: I think this roster could use more high end quality

1887
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 10: versus you know, real quantity to it. But we don't

1888
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 10: have Ballot typically operates during drafts. He wants to trade back.

1889
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 10: That's where I do look at this Kenny move and

1890
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 10: it's like, okay, you know, if you trade him for

1891
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 10: a fifth, you know, could you package something together at

1892
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 10: some point where where you get an additional third Because

1893
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 10: right now, and Eddie and I got.

1894
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 4: Into this a little bit earlier in the week, like.

1895
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 10: If you look at past Colt's drafts without a first

1896
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 10: round pick. You know, in twenty twenty, for example, they

1897
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 10: drafted Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman junior in the same draft,

1898
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 10: Andrelian Blackman, who had a nice run here.

1899
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 4: They drafted those three guys in the same draft. Always

1900
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:58,599
Speaker 4: have a first round pick.

1901
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 10: Now they also had the second pick in the second round,

1902
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 10: and then Taylor ended up being a middle second round picks.

1903
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 10: I as we sit here right now, two weeks from

1904
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 10: the draft, they don't have that additional second or third rounder.

1905
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 10: And again, to be fair to Ballot, he has found

1906
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 10: a lot of hits in the second and third round,

1907
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 10: a lot of really good players for this football team.

1908
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 10: So you know, it's like, how do they get that.

1909
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 4: That's where I do struggle with that.

1910
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 10: Right now, if you trade back in round two, I

1911
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 10: don't think you could still get another third rounder, especially

1912
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 10: if you traded you know more than whatever, certainly more

1913
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,679
Speaker 10: than you know, I don't know, ten or twelve spots back.

1914
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 10: So that's all a little confused by their draft plan

1915
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 10: here coming up.

1916
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 1: But you know the other thing, Kevin, and it's been

1917
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: a while since this has been the case in past year,

1918
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, last year, we knew going into it a

1919
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: tight end, tight end, tight end, right, everyone knew that.

1920
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: And you know in other years we knew going in

1921
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: like the Richards and year, we knew quarterback, and they're

1922
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 1: going quarterback, edge rush, whatever might be. This is a

1923
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: team that to me, there isn't There are multiple positions

1924
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: that you are totally content if that's where they go.

1925
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you had to say right

1926
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: now the absolute burning need position they have to go

1927
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 1: after is what, what would it be? Yeah?

1928
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 10: I mean to me, it's still defensive end, and I

1929
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 10: think linebacker is a very close second.

1930
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 4: You know, I did some math earlier in the week.

1931
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 4: I believe they.

1932
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 10: Have lost two thousand snaps at linebacker from last season

1933
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 10: and only one hundred and fifty are back from last

1934
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 10: year's team. So defensive end, linebacker. And you know, after

1935
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 10: today's move, I mean, you know, if you want to

1936
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 10: take Savaria's ward at his word and he said that,

1937
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 10: you know, he's one concussion away from retirement, and now

1938
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 10: this trade could happen, Like you know, corner probably shouldn't

1939
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 10: be that far off. You know, on paper, they still

1940
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 10: have a decent number of certainly quantity at corner.

1941
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 4: You know, you can debate the.

1942
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 10: Quality of it because Ward is just such the X factor.

1943
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 10: I mean, if you could tell me he's playing seventeen games,

1944
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 10: then I say, you don't need to draft a corner.

1945
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 10: But when you got Wally coming off of torn acl

1946
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 10: and he's never played a snap in the NFL in

1947
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 10: Taveria's Ward very understandably is dealing with some significant concussion issues,

1948
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 10: then you know, drafting a corner for insurance reasons if

1949
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 10: nothing else doesn't seem that ludicrous either.

1950
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 2: Kevin, how much have you been I would assume glued

1951
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: to the masters?

1952
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 4: No, I Elmer's rubb cement, all of it.

1953
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, I don't know if you know

1954
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: this answer. I'll put this to you in trivia for him.

1955
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Have you golfed before with Zach Keefer?

1956
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,520
Speaker 4: Oh? Sure? Yeah?

1957
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: How good? I would assume Keefer looks like he'd be

1958
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: a good golfer. Is he a good golfer? Yeah? Yeah?

1959
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 10: Love the game, super passionate. You know he's played AUGUSTA National.

1960
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's I's going to ask you is do

1961
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: you want to guess now? If you already know the answer,

1962
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: just say it. But I asked him yesterday when he

1963
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: played Augusta. What he shot? What? What do you think

1964
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 1: you would shoot at Augusta?

1965
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 10: Am I playing the same teas these guys are? Am

1966
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 10: I playing a little bit more reasonable?

1967
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 1: Whichever one it was that that he was playing.

1968
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 4: Mm.

1969
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'd like to hope I could I could break

1970
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 10: one hundred from the from the t's.

1971
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know something in the nineties from

1972
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 4: the tees he was playing.

1973
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 1: Uh, if you were to golf with Zach right now,

1974
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: you are a what handicap, Kevin?

1975
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 4: Uh? You try to keep it around I don't know,

1976
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 4: three or four something like that.

1977
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, and Zach would be what what handicap? I mean?

1978
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 10: Zach and I played right now eighteen holes. I probably

1979
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 10: beat him eye to five.

1980
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,800
Speaker 1: Okay, he shot a ninety six.

1981
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that checks out.

1982
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 10: I mean I honestly, I'm just more curious, like what

1983
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,599
Speaker 10: my nerve situation would be, you know all of that.

1984
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 4: I mean, hell, there's part of me.

1985
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 10: It's like if you put the ball in some of

1986
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 10: these spots on the greens. You know, honestly, if you

1987
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 10: got like a long time caddy down there that really

1988
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 10: wanted to just mess with you, they could put you

1989
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 10: in some like three and four and maybe even five

1990
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 10: putts and somebody to watch something dude's pott. I mean

1991
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 10: it looks like, you know, you're at Ben and Aari's

1992
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 10: or pen Heads or at the Children's Museum put putt course,

1993
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 10: just back and forth whacking it here. So yeah, yeah,

1994
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 10: that would be a dream. And you know, I mean,

1995
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 10: you know, Zach just made it through the through the

1996
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:41,759
Speaker 10: media lottery with your with you, with you picking up golf.

1997
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 10: You might need to start covering the masters here?

1998
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? What would I shoot? What would I

1999
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: shoot if they one sixty?

2000
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 10: Oh gosh? I I mean, I hate to be overly critical,

2001
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 10: but if we're, if we're, if.

2002
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 4: We're keeping every stroke, we might need to go north

2003
01:44:58,680 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 4: of that.

2004
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I I have no idea. Now let

2005
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: me ask you this and I'll show my golf naivete here.

2006
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 1: If theoretically all golf courses are a par seventy two,

2007
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: is it when you get on a harder course? Does

2008
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: that simply mean that at par seventy two you know

2009
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 1: you're expected to drive further? Whatever else? Like what or

2010
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: is it the the bunkers, the water et cetera. What

2011
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 1: makes one course an easy course and one course along

2012
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:29,559
Speaker 1: course just the amount that they are, the the amount

2013
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: that they're extending, the grace they're extending to you, on

2014
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: how much they're trusting you can play. It is that

2015
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: it does that make sense?

2016
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 10: Like, are you asking everything like a par seventy at

2017
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 10: par seventy two?

2018
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 1: Well, like if you so? In other words, I mean,

2019
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: you know par at Augusta is seventy two, right, right,

2020
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 1: and yet par at Douglas is seventy two. Well, there's

2021
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 1: a very clear difference between Douglas Park and Augusta National.

2022
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: So is it just that they are expecting if you're

2023
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 1: playing Augusta National, that you are somebody that's going to

2024
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: drive at two seventy five and that's factored in as

2025
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 1: to how it's a par seventy two? Does that mean

2026
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 1: what makes one course? What would make that course hard

2027
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 1: for you versus a crooked stick or a hillcrest or whatever.

2028
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I mean length would be the first thing.

2029
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 10: I mean, got this what seventy five hundred yards and

2030
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 10: Douglas's six thousand yards or something like that. And then

2031
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 10: certainly the greens like we talked about and definitely, you know,

2032
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 10: overall trouble the tightness of the golf course or you know, bunkering.

2033
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 4: Waters, water, et cetera, et cetera.

2034
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:32,719
Speaker 10: So yeah, I would say length and greens would probably

2035
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 10: be the two easiest things to point out. But yeah,

2036
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 10: there's obviously a lot of trouble from a te ball

2037
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 10: standpoint versus you know, you go play South Grove and

2038
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 10: it's just hey, can you find a little window in

2039
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 10: the trees there?

2040
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 1: Okay, Kevin, Finally I'm going to rope you into something

2041
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: that you missed out on, you know, since since I'm

2042
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 1: not doing the morning show with you anymore, this is

2043
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: the kind of fun that you missed out on. And

2044
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure you and believe you me, I'm sure you

2045
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 1: think about that on the regular. Yeah. Indeed, when you

2046
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: were a kid, Kevin Bowen, you watched The Brady Bunch

2047
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 1: with what frequency? And I realized that the braid I mean,

2048
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 1: even for me, the Brady Bunch was already off there

2049
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: by the time I was a kid. I don't know

2050
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: how much it was on in syndication in your childhood,

2051
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: but you are. Your level of familiarity with the Brady

2052
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 1: Bunch is.

2053
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 10: What, Oh, it's probably a three.

2054
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay, not overly high.

2055
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 1: So next weekend, and I've only mentioned this ten thousand

2056
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: times on the show, and next week, Eddie, brace yourself.

2057
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: Next week it's going to be the countdown, right, I

2058
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: mean it's going to be the countdown. So I'm going

2059
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: to Long Beach for the IndyCar Race. Kevin and I

2060
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: met Peter Brady. That's Christopher Night, the guy that played

2061
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Peter Brady, and he's taking me over to the Brady

2062
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 1: Bunch house, into the filming sites and everything else with

2063
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: the Brady Bunch. So I had custom made a T

2064
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: shirt that tributes Peter Brady, and I'm all fired up

2065
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: to get my photo on the stairwell inside the house

2066
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: with Peter Brady wearing my Peter Brady T shirt. Now,

2067
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: would you like to guess? And if you're only a three,

2068
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 1: it might be kind of a challenge what theme I

2069
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 1: went with in terms of my custom made tribute to

2070
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Peter Brady T shirt.

2071
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 10: Part of me thought, when you began the story, you're

2072
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 10: gonna go visit some grave site affiliated with some episode.

2073
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 4: And the Brady Bunch, And unbelievable, a.

2074
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 1: Lot of people think the grave fascination's weird.

2075
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 2: I think it's it's culturally and historically relevant.

2076
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 4: Somehow we brought that up.

2077
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 10: I'm trying to think how we brought you up in

2078
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 10: the Morning show today, Like this sounds like a Jake

2079
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,719
Speaker 10: query thing. Was something something related to that? What theme

2080
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 10: you brought a boy?

2081
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know.

2082
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 5: All I can think.

2083
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 4: About is Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

2084
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: So that was a guess. Several people guess that, and

2085
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: believe you me, Kevin, it will be even a more

2086
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 1: fruitful and great trip if Marsha, Marsha, Marsha happens to

2087
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: be at the house. Just so you know, right, I

2088
01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: mean easy now, Shannon, No, no, Shannon doesn't know what

2089
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I do for a living, Kevin. Shannon turns on her

2090
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: radio at three this I know, this, I know, and

2091
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 1: then the J and B takeover. All right, I'm sure

2092
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:57,640
Speaker 1: glued to the Masters all weekend long is what you

2093
01:48:57,720 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: will be.

2094
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,480
Speaker 2: But we certainly hope you have a good weekend.

2095
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. I you know,

2096
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: back to the draft the last year it was, and

2097
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: last year was one that it was so obvious and

2098
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, Did the Colts take Tyler

2099
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 1: Warren because everyone knew they had to go tight end,

2100
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Or did the Colts take Tyler Warren because he was

2101
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 1: the best player available and that spot and Ballard was

2102
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: not going to fall in line with what everybody necessarily

2103
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 1: was pining for by position, but rather that it was

2104
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 1: that obvious. I don't know either way. I thought Warren

2105
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: last year was spectacular at the beginning of the year.

2106
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought he was a potential game changer

2107
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 1: to their offense because he seemingly could put him anywhere

2108
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: and use him in a lot of different spots. But

2109
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: he did kind of hit a rookie wall to an extent,

2110
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,759
Speaker 1: and that's not a knock on him. Defense has probably

2111
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 1: also figured out when he was lining up where they

2112
01:49:58,640 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 1: were going to try to put him, how they were

2113
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 1: going to him in the slot, things like that. And

2114
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 1: you know, at the time, Eddie, do you remember during

2115
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 1: the draft we kind of snickered at Chicago, did we

2116
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: not for passing on Warren?

2117
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 2: I think we did a little bit at the start,

2118
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 2: just because it felt like Tyler Warren was more poor

2119
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 2: ready prospect. But I didn't snicker too much out it

2120
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 2: because I thought Colston Lovelin was the better receiving tight

2121
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 2: end of the two.

2122
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: I thought Warren is just more all around. Yeah see,

2123
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: I thought loved Them was the better blocker of the

2124
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: two for certain and even at the beginning of the year,

2125
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 1: for the first quarter of the year. And yes, snicker,

2126
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe eyebrow raised, as you know, it's not like we

2127
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 1: were laughing at it. But I thought as the year

2128
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 1: went on, you know, love them really. I mean you

2129
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 1: saw in the latter part of the year. I mean

2130
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: at that point, I'm like, yeah, I get it now.

2131
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 1: Now that's not to say that he was superior per

2132
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,639
Speaker 1: se to Tyler Warren, but I think that he showed

2133
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: a versatility for Chicago that also, and I think he's

2134
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:14,759
Speaker 1: a better blocker than Warren. But the point I'm making

2135
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 1: here is a year ago, it was pretty obvious where

2136
01:51:17,439 --> 01:51:21,400
Speaker 1: they were going, and in other years it's been like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's no question, that's where they're going. Part of it,

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Speaker 1: I know they don't have the first round or so

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01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a moot point, but even if

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Speaker 1: they did, I feel like you're still in a situation

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01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 1: for the Colts where you go best player available more

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01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: likely than not simply because the positions they have of need.

2143
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:46,759
Speaker 1: They have multiple needs. They realistically do have multiple needs,

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01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: none of which are totally dire. You know, all of

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Speaker 1: you in your house, everybody right now. If he said

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01:51:56,200 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: to somebody, I'm just going to give you two one

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01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 1: hundred grand for home improvements, what are you going to

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01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 1: do with it? Or one hundred grand whatever? What are

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01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: you gonna do with it? And you know people, most

2150
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 1: people would say like, well, you know, we definitely need

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01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:16,640
Speaker 1: to get the roof redone and the basement getting that

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01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: resealed is probably not a bad idea. And you know,

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01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: we've we've said for a while that the cabinets are

2154
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: a little dated. In the kitchen. Everybody has three to

2155
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: four things that are projects that for their property value,

2156
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: it certainly would be wise to go ahead and start doing.

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01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: But it's not like you have a huge hole in

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01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 1: the ceiling where water is coming through and you're like,

2159
01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 1: clearly that needs to be taken care of like pronto.

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01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how that roster feels to me.

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01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: I think it's a decent roster. It's a sufficient roster.

2162
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: But in Pierce is exciting, and Warren is exciting, and certainly,

2163
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is exciting, and their offense last year at

2164
01:53:01,960 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year was fun, but by the

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01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,519
Speaker 1: end of the year they fell into and I know

2166
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: they had injuries, but by the end of the year

2167
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: they kind of fell into truth be told, just being

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01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,600
Speaker 1: kind of boring. And they've been kind of boring for

2169
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 1: a while, I mean the rest the rest of the country.

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01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: I can't remember who I was talking to that said

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01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 1: they their son lives out of state and just said,

2172
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, I got to be honest where I live,

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01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: the culture kind of irrelevant. And I hate to say

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01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 1: that that's a damning statement, but there is some truth

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01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: to the fact that they just don't have and part

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01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 1: of that's because we got spoiled by an era with

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Speaker 1: arguably the greatest of all time followed up by one

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01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: of the most promising of all time, and then you

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01:53:54,439 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 1: just kind of now go through the motions. Luke Irtle,

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01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I'm going to is

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01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 1: about Luke Ertl's coming up next the Indiana Mister Basketball

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01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 1: out about Vernon the Purdue recruit. Look forward to talking

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01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: to him now that he has been given this award,

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01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 1: and I'm going to ask him. I want to see

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01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 1: how true to form the recruiting websites are. He's locked

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01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: in for Purdue, but at lists to other schools that

2187
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: he was very close to. You think he'll be able

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01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: to tell me which two of those already? I would

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01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: hope so. Well, I'm saying, do you think that the

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Speaker 1: websites are accurate enough that they will that he'll be like, oh, yeah,

2191
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 1: that's true. Or is he going to say, yeah, that's

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01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 1: news to me. But I want to find out just

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01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: overall the honor. It is an honor to be the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Mister Basketball, and he was awarded that yesterday, and

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01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 1: we'll talk to him and find out what that means

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01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 1: to him next. You know that sound, it means you

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Speaker 1: are indeed listening to Querying Company on a Friday bought

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Speaker 1: truly is appreciated the partnership they have with us here

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01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: at the radio station, and that includes bringing you stories

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01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:16,200
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Speaker 1: addition to that, when it comes to the heart scan,

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Speaker 1: you get the peace of mind of just knowing where

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Speaker 1: things stand in terms of your heart health, and it's

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Speaker 1: lot about, and we will continue to talk about, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the importance of the heart scan for women

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 1: and getting women on board with their heart health. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Luke Urtle's calling me right now, so I

2221
01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 1: should probably should I text him and say, we're calling you?

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Speaker 2: Is that what I need to do?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 2: Hang on just a second, Eddie, Let's see we are

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01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 2: calling you.

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Speaker 1: Okay. You gotta like that. See, that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff Luke Urdle is the Indiana Mister Basketball. He will

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Speaker 1: join Joe Sex and Willie Isen, Dennis Brady, Billy Keller,

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Speaker 1: Rick Mount, Dan Pallambizio, Troy Lewis, Glenna Robinson, Caleb Swanigan, Woody,

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01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 1: Austin Braden Smith as players to where the Indiana number

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01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: one jersey, as Purdue commits and recruits to Purdue University.

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01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 1: And when we talk about Franciscan health and I'll give

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01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: you more information on the heart health risk assessment about it.

2234
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: The whole idea is stories that make you feel good.

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01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 1: And this did for me because we had Luke erdle

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01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 1: on just before Mount Vernon was going to Gambridge Field

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01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 1: House to try to win a state chamchampionship. And at

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01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: that time I think we had a pretty good idea

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01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: that he was going to be and he certainly was

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Speaker 1: a front runner for the Indiana Mister Basketball Award. And

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the other day on the radio just how

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Speaker 1: overall impressed I was with his maturity and everything in

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01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 1: terms of the way that he really carried himself, not

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01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 1: just through that conversation but in general. And yesterday the

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Speaker 1: ultimate award he joins us now on the program. Luke

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Speaker 1: ardle first off, Congratulations on the award that every I

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01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: think young man in Indiana thinks about for themselves, and

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01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: that is being named the number one jersey wear for

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Speaker 1: the most beloved sport in this state. You are Indiana's

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Speaker 1: mister Basketball. Congratulations.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you for having me on.

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01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:50,040
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go first off to the award itself, and I

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01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 1: know and looks to you guys I want to get

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Speaker 1: into and congratulations on winning the state championship and that's

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Speaker 1: I know you're a team guy and that's a team award,

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Speaker 1: But for this individual award, when did it kind of

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01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: enter into your thought process that this was a possibility

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01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: or what it would mean.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say, you know, you said it best.

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01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 3: I think every high school, every high school, every night,

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01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 3: high school, every just kid growing up wants to be

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 3: mister Basketball. So I think that's one of the reasons.

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01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 3: And just how legendary kind of the award is in

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Speaker 3: Indiana and wearing it in the All Star Game, I'd say,

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Speaker 3: when I first kind of thought about mister Basketball is

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Speaker 3: when my brother is an Indiana All Star when I

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01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 3: was really young and just seeing that one jersey, it

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01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 3: just is a little more special, and it's a super

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Speaker 3: huge honor to wear it and be recognized as, you know,

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Speaker 3: the best player in Indiana. So yeah, man, it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And the people before me who have won one I

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01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 3: number one is you know, NBA greats and a lot

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Speaker 3: of great players. So glad to be in that company.

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Speaker 1: Which to you, I was gonna say, which was the

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01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 1: bigger relief That's the wrong way of saying it, but

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Speaker 1: I would imagine it's been a whirlwind when you look

2278
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: at the emotion of all of it. Being mister Basketball

2279
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 1: is pretty darn cool. But did anything really top being

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Speaker 1: able to claim a championship with your brothers and teammates

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Speaker 1: at Gambridge Field House.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. No, there's nothing that tops that.

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01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 3: I think just the thing about mister Basketball. It's an

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 3: individual award, but like the state championship, it it just

2285
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 3: resembles that team aspect of basketball. Like the days you're

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Speaker 3: studying with your guys, you know where it's it's hard,

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01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 3: the days in January where like practice sucks and coaches

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01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 3: on you, and like having that joy with your teammates,

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01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 3: there's nothing like it and reaching the out to ultimate goal,

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01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 3: and then mister Basketball is kind of just like a

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01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 3: cherry on top of not many people have been able

2292
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Speaker 3: to win a state championship and mister Basketball, So it's

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Speaker 3: kind of an individual award, But it goes back to like,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing like that team aspect to win a state championship.

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Speaker 2: How many jerseys did they give you? The school gets.

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Speaker 1: One, you gotta wear one in the Indiana Kentucky All

2297
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 1: Star Game? Do you get like four others just to

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02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: basically lounge around dan? How many do they give you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think it might just be as many as we

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02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 3: pay for. I don't know, no, no, no, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I know I'm gonna wear one like

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Speaker 3: my mom is definitely gonna want one to put in

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02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:37,840
Speaker 3: our basement, and you know mister Ecker is gonna want

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Speaker 3: one as well at AD So I'm not sure how

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Speaker 3: many they regular.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you if I listen, if I

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Speaker 1: was getting ready to go play college basketball in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten and I was mister Basketball heading into it,

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Speaker 1: I would spend all of my perspective nil money on

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02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 1: buying as many jerseys as I had to. I'd hand

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Speaker 1: them out to everybody, right, everybody getting I wouldn't be

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02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 1: able to get enough of them. But but Luke, for

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Speaker 1: you in general role, you know the Indiana Kentucky All

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02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:07,760
Speaker 1: Star Game. You mentioned your brother playing in that. To me,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious from your standpoint playing in AAU circuits, playing

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02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 1: in summer basketball, and the amount of games that guys

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02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 1: now play all around the country, and then obviously high

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02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:24,800
Speaker 1: school basketball as well. And I think I talked to

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Speaker 1: you about like the difference between representing your AAU team

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Speaker 1: and representing your high school. And I loved how your

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Speaker 1: community came together for Mount Vernon, But for the Indiana

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Speaker 1: Kentucky All Star series, does it still carry to young

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Speaker 1: people the amount of oomph that we would assume considering

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Speaker 1: that you play so many of these games now outside

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Speaker 1: of just that one structured event.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't speak on you know what it was

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Speaker 3: in the past. I know it was awesome. I know

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Speaker 3: that like a hainkul fieldhouse if I'm from Taken, and

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Speaker 3: maybe like sold out.

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Speaker 1: Crowds, market Square, all of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's that's amazing. And you know,

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Speaker 3: hearing just my my dad talked about it is is

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Speaker 3: pretty cool. But I think today, you know, it's still

2335
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Speaker 3: there's so much talent in Indiana. There's so much. So basketball

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Speaker 3: is the most competitive sport to be good, and everybody's

2337
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Speaker 3: playing it in Indiana. It with football and all the

2338
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 3: CTE stuff or whatever, basketball is kind of the sport

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02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 3: that everyone plays. So to be named an Indiana All

2340
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 3: Star in the state holds definitely holds weight. And you know,

2341
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Speaker 3: it might not be sold out with crowds anymore, but

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Speaker 3: I think I can tell you that the players playing

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02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 3: and it really take pride in it and on the

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Speaker 3: Indiana side. So yeah, I think everyone will be super

2345
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Speaker 3: excited to have that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I know you've referenced your brothers in playing basketball. You

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Speaker 1: have how many siblings? I have four siblings, okay, and

2348
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Speaker 1: you are where do you fall into terms of those four?

2349
02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:04,560
Speaker 1: Are you the youngest, I'm the youngest, the youngest. So

2350
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Speaker 1: when you have older brothers and siblings that you look

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Speaker 1: up to and you're the youngest, right, did that more

2352
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Speaker 1: teach you growing up and being able to see and

2353
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: the pattern of you know, just athletics in your family.

2354
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 1: Did it more teach you the importance of family and

2355
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Speaker 1: that unit or did it more teach you the importance

2356
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Speaker 1: of kind of the individuality of it, of presenting your

2357
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Speaker 1: own identity and blazing your own path.

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Speaker 3: I would say definitely more of the family aspect.

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 3: I think just because my brother played I just kind

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02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 3: of naturally wanted to play basketball too, just to be

2362
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Speaker 3: copy him, you know, and then seeing him. You know,

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Speaker 3: my siblings played other sports like volleyball. But I think

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Speaker 3: the one thing that helps and be in a big families,

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Speaker 3: we're just super competitive. So whether it comes to cards

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Speaker 3: or you know, we're playing pig outside. I think that

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Speaker 3: aspect and just being around, always competing at something, you

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02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 3: kind of get that edge that maybe the only child

2369
02:04:05,360 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 3: or you know, maybe from a smaller family don't get.

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Speaker 3: So that was just the biggest thing for me. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, my older brother kind of blazed away

2372
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Speaker 3: from me from a basketball perspective, but it's it's definitely

2373
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Speaker 3: awesome being from.

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Speaker 1: A big family. Okay, I want to play. Luke Rtle

2375
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Speaker 1: is my guest to predue recruit the state champion from

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Speaker 1: Mountain Vernon, the Indiana Mister Basketball. I'm going to play

2377
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Speaker 1: a little game here of how well do you know

2378
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Speaker 1: your own recruiting profile Okay, we're going to test not

2379
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 1: just your knowledge of it, but we're going to test

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Speaker 1: how accurate these are. Okay, all right, I'm not going

2381
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Speaker 1: to say which side it is, but I'm looking right

2382
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 1: now and it has you listed in terms of a

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Speaker 1: one to one hundred rating. Your rating is what number

2384
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: on a one to one hundred? What rating do you

2385
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,600
Speaker 1: think they gave you? Well?

2386
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Speaker 3: Am I going to be judged on whether I'm checking

2387
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Speaker 3: it too much or no?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm here to tell you my mine would be

2389
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 1: framed next to my he had a number one jersey,

2390
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Speaker 1: So no judgment there at all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean we can't give these dude too much.

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Speaker 4: Now.

2393
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Speaker 3: Anyways, I'd say eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: Baby, ninety five point zero eight, ninety five point zero eight,

2395
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Speaker 1: So give yourself a little more credit. Okay. You are

2396
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 1: nationally ranked at least as of when this at least

2397
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:21,280
Speaker 1: was updated one through one hundred. Your national ranking.

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Speaker 2: Is what forty two forty seven? Now, how's that possible?

2399
02:05:28,200 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 2: You got a ninety five and a forty seven. That

2400
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 2: seems a skew. Okay, here's the big one.

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02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,000
Speaker 1: Now, I know that you're going to Purdue, and I

2402
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 1: know Purdue fans are thrilled to have you, and I

2403
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: want to talk about that in just a second. So

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02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:41,840
Speaker 1: I mean this of course at no, I don't want

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Speaker 1: anybody to take this the wrong way. There's no disrespect

2406
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 1: to Perdue because you've been committed to the Boilers since

2407
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,919
Speaker 1: August of twenty four. But it lists two other schools

2408
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 1: that at least at one time you were Crystal Bald.

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02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 1: If you will as being possibilities that you would have interest,

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02:05:55,720 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 1: can you tell me either of those two schools.

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02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 3: And maybe.

2412
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 2: Forest, yes, Wake, Forest yes?

2413
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 6: Nice.

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02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: I guess that black and gold is fitting to your eye.

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02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:14,400
Speaker 3: Right, Maybe I don't know how.

2416
02:06:14,320 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 2: Much do you.

2417
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:17,560
Speaker 1: And we talked about this with you a little bit.

2418
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: We had Elliott bloom On, who of course is the

2419
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:21,800
Speaker 1: director of operations for Purdue and as a mount Verting

2420
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 1: guy like yourself, and I love you.

2421
02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 9: Know.

2422
02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: Elliott's a great guy. I've known him for a very

2423
02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 1: long time and he spoke very favorably. I know they're

2424
02:06:28,880 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 1: very excited to get you there, and I don't even

2425
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 1: know how it works, Luke, in terms of when you

2426
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 1: are playing in high school. Once you're committed, you know

2427
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 1: how much the communication can be there and Purdue had

2428
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: their own obviously huge year this year. How much do

2429
02:06:42,200 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 1: you talk to those guys about what it is that

2430
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 1: they're hoping you can do or work on before you

2431
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:48,240
Speaker 1: get there?

2432
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's your sign? You know, they can pretty

2433
02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 3: much talk to me whenever they want, but to be

2434
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 3: honest with you, they hadn't really said too much about,

2435
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 3: you know, what they want me to work on, what

2436
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 3: they you know, want me to be once I get

2437
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 3: to Purdue. But you know, I know the things that

2438
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 3: I gotta work on. I mean most definitely gotta get

2439
02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 3: It's just a different type of athleticism in college. So

2440
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:18,040
Speaker 3: definitely gotta, you know, just continue to get stronger. And

2441
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:20,080
Speaker 3: I gotta, you know, get used to that college line

2442
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:22,800
Speaker 3: because people don't understand, you know, there's a big difference

2443
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 3: between the high school and college line. And I think

2444
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:27,680
Speaker 3: bride and being like a really good shooter, and that's

2445
02:07:27,760 --> 02:07:31,240
Speaker 3: what they want to always be, no matter.

2446
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:31,680
Speaker 4: What's going on.

2447
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:34,400
Speaker 3: So definitely got to just work on those two things

2448
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 3: and then they'll obviously tell me if I get there

2449
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 3: what I need to actually do.

2450
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:43,919
Speaker 1: So Yeah, do you consider yourself and was this by design?

2451
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself ambidextrous? Because you shoot if I'm

2452
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 1: not mistaken. If it's you know, if it's an open three,

2453
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 1: you're shooting left hand, but you can finish with your right,

2454
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: you can drive with your right, you can do a little.

2455
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:58,320
Speaker 1: It seems to me like you're comfortable using either hand.

2456
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 1: Is that natural to you or has that just come

2457
02:08:01,640 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 1: through the course of work.

2458
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 3: Well, you know, my boss would would tell you that

2459
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't use my left hand. He doesn't give me

2460
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 3: much credit. So I'm actually glad that you're saying that

2461
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 3: that's a big time But uh, yeah, I work a

2462
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 3: lot on both my right and left hand, and you know,

2463
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 3: if I just think it's growing up, you only want

2464
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:28,520
Speaker 3: to use your dominant hand. So just from a youth perspective,

2465
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 3: when I was little, everyone was like, you're gonna left

2466
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 3: you want to left, and it'd be like first grade basketball,

2467
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 3: you know. So yeah, so I'm I've been working on it,

2468
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 3: and you know, I'll just try to continue to help

2469
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:43,200
Speaker 3: me finish and finish around the trees.

2470
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 1: In college, so that was the Saint Simon days. When

2471
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: did you go to Saint Simon or did you play

2472
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 1: at Saint Simon?

2473
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:50,320
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, yeah, yeah, I went to say Simon.

2474
02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 1: The right handed, wiz, I guess back then it was

2475
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:55,360
Speaker 1: left handed. Luke Girdle from Saint Simon. All right, Luke,

2476
02:08:56,240 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look at you and

2477
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 1: you know there is obviously we know Purdue in the

2478
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: backcourt situation, you know, with with Mayor coming back, and

2479
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:08,879
Speaker 1: you know Braiden Smith on his way out. I'm curious

2480
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 1: of this. What has been, if at all, your relationship

2481
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 1: to Braiden Smith And how often do you talk to

2482
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:20,160
Speaker 1: Braiden Smith or how how much can you lean on

2483
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 1: anything that even though he's on his way out now

2484
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 1: that he can teach you or tell you about the

2485
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: Purdue program.

2486
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I it's funny you say that. I'm you know,

2487
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 3: definitely want to talk to him here soon and just

2488
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 3: kind of he has a blueprint. He knows he's been

2489
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 3: there for four years. He knows just everything about the program.

2490
02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 1: He knows what I.

2491
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 3: Should and shouldn't do, and it'd be great to hear

2492
02:09:44,360 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 3: so give have him give me some advice, you know,

2493
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 3: But uh, we haven't really talked too much honestly. You know,

2494
02:09:50,320 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 3: he's hard man to get a hold of. He's pretty

2495
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:55,680
Speaker 3: busy nowadays with everything he's got going on. But Uh,

2496
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,680
Speaker 3: hopefully I can get in touch with him and you know,

2497
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:01,160
Speaker 3: I can just pick his brain a little bit about things,

2498
02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 3: because you know, he's kind of the best example.

2499
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 1: So if I'm not mistaken. When we had you on

2500
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 1: the other time we had you on, Luke Grdle is

2501
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:10,800
Speaker 1: my guest, the Indiana mister basketball out of Mount Vernon

2502
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,040
Speaker 1: that tended to Purdue. Uh, when we had you on,

2503
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 1: it was the opening weekend of the NCAA tournament, and

2504
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:18,360
Speaker 1: you talked about, you know the fact that you knew

2505
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 1: Braylen Mullins. You guys had played together, and you were

2506
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you've known him for a long time. Uh,

2507
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:26,520
Speaker 1: did you have any dream whatsoever that that guy was

2508
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 1: going to hit that shot to put his team in

2509
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: that situation?

2510
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 3: Well, he actually kind of missed a very similar shot

2511
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:40,080
Speaker 3: last year in a game where we ended up you know,

2512
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 3: fortunate enough to win, but kind of that exact same

2513
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 3: exact shot he shot, you know, versus and it just

2514
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 3: barely rimmed out and we were able to tend it

2515
02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 3: to overtime and up winning. But that same shot he shot,

2516
02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:56,879
Speaker 3: he ended up sourcing it and that was just amazing

2517
02:10:57,000 --> 02:10:59,640
Speaker 3: and super happy for him. It's just kind of funny

2518
02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:03,000
Speaker 3: was staying near man the same shot that he ended

2519
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 3: up missing and then making a couple.

2520
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 4: Of weeks ago.

2521
02:11:06,080 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 1: So you're glad he waited until then to hit it

2522
02:11:08,480 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: as opposed to last year.

2523
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I would have been pretty upset if you

2524
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:14,480
Speaker 3: would last year. But I'm happy for him now.

2525
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 1: That's right. Hey, when do you head up? You know,

2526
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:20,480
Speaker 1: when do you head up to Lafayette and really start

2527
02:11:20,480 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 1: getting going with the boilers?

2528
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, just beginning to I'll head up there right after

2529
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:30,000
Speaker 3: Indian All Stars and get to work. So yeah, that's

2530
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 3: what I'll hit up.

2531
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, we appreciate the time. We would love to

2532
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,280
Speaker 1: have you back on the program sometime. But again, a

2533
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:39,240
Speaker 1: huge congratulations to you. It's a huge honor. You represent

2534
02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:41,920
Speaker 1: the state very well. I know the state will be

2535
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 1: happy to have you wearing that number one jersey and

2536
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 1: people will be happy to see you and Purdue as well.

2537
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate the time and wish you the best. Yep,

2538
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2547
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Speaker 1: We will check in with JMV and hand it over

2548
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Speaker 1: to him as part of the crossover brought to you

2549
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:27,280
Speaker 1: by the good guys that love heating and Aaron will

2550
02:12:27,280 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 1: do it all next. Take it a look real quick

2551
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 1: before we throw it out to find out what John's

2552
02:12:33,440 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 1: got cooking. Rory McElroy is cooking right now. He is

2553
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:41,880
Speaker 1: now eight under atop the leader board, but that's because

2554
02:12:41,920 --> 02:12:44,960
Speaker 1: he's three under but only through four today, so he's

2555
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Justin Rose is five under.

2556
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 1: He is also he is through seventeen today, so he

2557
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:56,440
Speaker 1: is one hole from being done for today. Big mover

2558
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,600
Speaker 1: of the day Wyndham Clark, he was four under today.

2559
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Speaker 1: That put to him at four under overall and he

2560
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Speaker 1: has done for the day through two rounds. But Rory

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Speaker 1: McElroy right now is your leader at eight under down

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Speaker 1: in AUGUSTA. Of course, we'll talk about a lot of

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Speaker 1: that coming up on Monday, when we will know who

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Speaker 1: it is that has won the Master's JMV Joining us

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Speaker 1: And John is at one of the great establishments. Twenty

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02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 1: five to thirty five South Meridian is where you find

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02:13:26,360 --> 02:13:30,680
Speaker 1: them at Baringer's Tavern. That is one cool joint.

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Speaker 11: John, can you see me on camera right now? Are

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02:13:35,200 --> 02:13:37,280
Speaker 11: you still on camera? How does that work back there?

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm still on camera, so I cannot both of

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Speaker 2: you still on camera?

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Speaker 1: Are we on a split camera? Hey? We're on a double.

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Speaker 5: Box, Eddie.

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Speaker 11: Do you see this I have they have made for

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Speaker 11: me and we're going to talk about this a little

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02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:51,840
Speaker 11: bit later on. It's a new game. It's a very

2579
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:55,280
Speaker 11: exciting game. And I've got a couple of game boards

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02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 11: that have been made and if you can see that

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Speaker 11: right here, that is outstanding. Right to call one more time,

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Speaker 11: Revel Rounds. Revel Rounds. Has anybody ever heard of that?

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02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:08,240
Speaker 1: I have not? I have now, By the way, Hey,

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Speaker 1: is John sitting to my left right, Eddie? Because I'm

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02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 1: going to present the is he sitting to my left

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02:14:11,960 --> 02:14:15,640
Speaker 1: or to my right? To your right here? Okay, that's awesome.

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02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:19,000
Speaker 1: There we go go. I'm doing my best Diane Parkinson.

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02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:19,200
Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he oh no, what do you think

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02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:22,000
Speaker 1: looks like?

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Speaker 11: It looks like a record with a whole and a

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02:14:25,000 --> 02:14:27,760
Speaker 11: little net in it. And we're going to teach people

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Speaker 11: how to play it a little bit later on and

2594
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:32,920
Speaker 11: then we'll take us this out to the remotes right here.

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02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 5: But yeah, at Bearringers, they made this for me right here.

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02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 1: Very cool and for us.

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Speaker 11: It's even got our logo right there, which is outstanding.

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Speaker 11: That's cool as hell.

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Speaker 5: Man. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 11: We'll talk. We'll talk in just a little bit about

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Speaker 11: what this entails. But this is awesome and that is

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Speaker 11: one hell of a board right there. To say the least,

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Speaker 11: you guys hang out. We'll come back over in just

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02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:55,560
Speaker 11: a little bit and talk it all up. But no, Jake,

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02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 11: one of the legendary locations. I mentioned this a little

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02:14:57,880 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 11: bit earlier. This is hard to do.

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Speaker 4: And you know this.

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02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 11: It is hard to not compromise the history which goes

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02:15:02,680 --> 02:15:05,240
Speaker 11: back to eighteen seventy nine with Bearringer just tavern here,

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Speaker 11: but also do things to make it better for the future.

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02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 11: And they've got that delicate balanced rob of the gang

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02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:13,480
Speaker 11: down like you would double leave.

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Speaker 5: What a great spot.

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02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty nineteen is when it was re established, so

2615
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:19,480
Speaker 1: to speak. Keeping that. I mean, you look at it

2616
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:21,920
Speaker 1: and you can see the history of it as soon

2617
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:23,720
Speaker 1: as you take a look at it from the outside.

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02:15:23,880 --> 02:15:25,200
Speaker 1: What's lined up with a big program?

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Speaker 11: John Matt Taylor, voice of the Colt's going to join

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Speaker 11: us coming up here at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 11: We'll talk about the whole Kennymore thing. Colts continue with

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Speaker 11: one leg in, Hey, we're really good, we think we

2623
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:37,880
Speaker 11: could be good, and one leg Hey, we got to

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02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:38,600
Speaker 11: rebuild out.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that ever works. Has it ever

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02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:42,520
Speaker 5: worked for you when you've had one leg in and

2627
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Speaker 5: one leg out?

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02:15:43,320 --> 02:15:46,960
Speaker 1: No, unless I was playing twister maybe right?

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02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 5: What by getting one leg out? Does it not seem

2630
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Speaker 5: that way to you?

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Speaker 11: It's like, yeah, we're kind of half acidly rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: No question. Yeah, I mean there's no doubt that this,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, they I said earlier show you know

2634
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Speaker 1: they both of them. I guess got from the other

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Speaker 1: what they needed in time. Yeah, it's like are you rebuilding?

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Speaker 1: Are you not here?

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Speaker 2: Right? So plenty to discuss, no question. All right, John,

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Speaker 2: we'll throw it out to you in just a minute here.

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Speaker 5: All right, you got it, buddy, Thanks Jake, Ke have

2640
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Speaker 5: a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: YouTube JMV down at Baringers Tavern. Of course, keep in

2642
02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 1: mind also he will be doing the takeover tomorrow night Pacers, Sixers,

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02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:25,240
Speaker 1: Tonight Pacers and Pistons coming up on Sunday. And then

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02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:29,320
Speaker 1: this season mercifully h comes to a close. We'll talk

2645
02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 1: about that where they go from there. What's that I

2646
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:34,520
Speaker 1: didn't have the same level of pizazz? Now the other

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02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:37,920
Speaker 1: one was an open fit. That's opening and then that's

2648
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:41,320
Speaker 1: closing either way, though, we will see what it means

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02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:45,560
Speaker 1: for their draft positioning and everything moving forward. Also, we

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Speaker 1: will recap what happens.

2651
02:16:47,280 --> 02:16:48,080
Speaker 2: With the Masters.

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02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 1: A tradition like no other? Is it unlike any other?

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02:16:50,720 --> 02:16:53,400
Speaker 1: Or unlike no other? Attradition like any other? A tradition

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Speaker 1: like any other. No, it's gonna be unlike any other,

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Speaker 1: right because there's nothing else like it. If it's like

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Speaker 1: any other, it's like unlike any It's like yeah, I'm

2657
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Speaker 1: going to putt putt and Tulsa. Okay, well, that's like

2658
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,840
Speaker 1: the tradition of the masters. No, it's unlike it, right,

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02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:08,120
Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Either way, we'll figure that out of

2660
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Speaker 1: the course of the weekend. I thank everybody for listening

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Speaker 1: to Quary Cup.