1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Line from Ball Heart Blind and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: The word on the street is that President Trump believes 4 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: that those involved in Arctic Frost should be investigated. 5 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. 6 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. 7 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: You have got the Health and Human Services Secretary, his 8 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: name is Robert F. 9 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: Kennedy Jr. 10 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: You've got the FDA Commission, Marty McCurry. They are a 11 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: set to make an announcement. I'll try and bring that 12 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: to you the minute it becomes available. But Arctic Frost, 13 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: where there's gonna be a press conference later today, should 14 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: get investigated and people should be put in prison. House 15 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: Republicans had revealed, you know, there's a lot coming out. 16 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: They're like, we've got the power, we got to put 17 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: out this information, get it out before it all gets destroyed. 18 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: Amazingly that it hasn't been destroyed. 19 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: The story is is that more than one hundred and 20 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: sixty congressional Republicans and former Trump administration officials were under 21 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: investigation in a Biden ra probe. This was launched in 22 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: April of twenty twenty two. This is about Jack Smith. Now, 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Jack Smith swears up and down he's the special counsel. 24 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: He swears that if he had the opportunity to present 25 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: the evidence against Donald Trump and classified documents since that 26 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: and the other, he would have gotten the conviction. 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: I listen, all I know if is if. 28 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: Who's the guy Selena Gomez is married to their producer Landing. 29 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: I think his name is Benny Blanco. 30 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, if if I had a chance to meet Selena 31 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: Gomez before Benny Blanco, she'd be with me today. Well, 32 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: actually no, because I'm married to the perfect woman. But 33 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm You get the point. That's the point, So just 34 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: say it doesn't make it true by any stretch of 35 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: the imagination. The size and the scope of the FBI 36 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: investigation into these alleged efforts larger than previously known, the 37 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: committee said, of the release of approximately one hundred and 38 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: ninety eight new documents. This committee is chaired by Jim 39 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: saying that forty five individuals Steve Bannon, Representative Scott Perry, 40 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: former New York City mayor, Rudy Giuliani, former Deal j official, 41 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Clark, former Trump attorney John Eastman, former White House 42 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows were potentially under investigation. 43 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: This is a deal. This is a big deal. 44 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: This is about abuse of American citizens. 45 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: This is abuse of power. 46 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: And we should look at these things seriously and address 47 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: them as the serious issues that they are. We shouldn't 48 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: let these things go by the wayside, be like, oh whatever, 49 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: he's not office anymore, no big deal, just move along. No, 50 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: not moving along, and we shouldn't move along. The story 51 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: is that this Joe Biden caricature, this grandfatherly guy, this 52 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: somehow bringing all of America together. Well, no part of 53 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: that is true. He was as he always was to 54 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: his core, vicious, nasty and downright evil. And you say, 55 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: to me, my gosh, tony, downright evil. Can't I watch 56 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: what he did to Clarence Thomas and come to that conclusion. 57 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: Must I now wait for when he was president to 58 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: make that statement? Can I at least say disgusting? Can 59 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: I at least say despicable? No, you can't even say that. 60 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: I think you could say that. I think it should. 61 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: We need to look into these things because we have 62 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: to ask ourselves what level of abuse does take place? 63 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: And I don't care which party it is. I want 64 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: an end to the abuse. I don't want this from 65 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: my government right or left. If there's an investigator. I've 66 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: often said I don't get worked up by investigations. I 67 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: can't start one, I can't stop one. I don't get 68 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: worked up by them. 69 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: But you can be on any side of the political 70 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: aisle and be like, yeah, this is fine. By the way. 71 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: The investigation that led to the appointment of Special Counsel 72 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: Jack Smith in November twenty twenty two, that was called 73 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: Arctic Frost. Merrick Garland, who was the Attorney General at 74 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: the time, authorized the I walked in Field off as 75 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: to launch a full investigation into what was described as 76 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: quote an articulable factual basis indicating the existence of a 77 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: federal crime involving Trump end quote individuals closely associated with him. 78 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: Ninety two Republicans are conservative line groups and were targeted, 79 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: including the late Charlie Kirk, the assassinated Charlie Kirk. How 80 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: much does this smack of you know, the Soviet police. 81 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime. 82 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: We'll do an investigation, we'll see if there was any wrongdoing. 83 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: The articulable factual basis is. 84 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: What what was that Biden administration doing and to a 85 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: further point, how much about this did Biden actually know 86 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: and how much of this was kept from him because 87 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: he was mentally incapable of understanding. 88 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: Investigate deep, guys, get answers quickly, let us know, and. 89 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: Then while you're at it, could you release more of 90 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: the Epstein files please? That would also be great. Thank 91 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: you so very much. 92 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 93 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: You've got the Secretary of Health and Human Services who 94 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: will be speaking in mere moments coming to the podium 95 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: right now. 96 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 3: That is Robert F. Kennedy Junior. 97 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. 98 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony kats dot com. They're going to 99 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: talk about lowering drug prices now as a matter of 100 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: full disclosure, the idea of the government looking at drug 101 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: companies and saying, lower your drug prices. 102 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: I don't like them. 103 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: He's with a doctor Martin McCarey, who runs the FDA. 104 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Let's hear what the secretary has to say. 105 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: Country, millions of Americans struggle to afford essential medicine. Some 106 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 4: families are rationing prescriptions, skipping doses, and parents are facing 107 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: heartbreaking choices between paying for medication or putting food on 108 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: their tables. This is not acceptable in the United States 109 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: of America. For decades, Americans accepted a fair deal in pharmaceuticals. 110 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: A company earns a temporary monopoly for an innovative drug, 111 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: and once the patent expires, cheaper generics enter the market. 112 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: That system is established by the nineteen eighty four Hatch 113 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: Waxman Act. Works for traditional chemistry based drugs. Proving a 114 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: generic is the equivalent is straightforward. If it's the same 115 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 4: active ingredient, the same effect, same safety, it gets approved. 116 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: But that bargain broke down with biologic drugs medicines made 117 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: from living cells. When Congress wrote the Biologics Price Competition 118 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 4: and Innovation Act, the pharmaceutical industry rigged the rules. Between 119 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: two thousand and seven and two thousand and nine, Big 120 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: Pharmer spent one hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying to 121 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: make biosimilar approval far more difficult and expensive. They claimed 122 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: that biologics were too delicate, that they were too mystical 123 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 4: to allow true generics. They compared them during these lobbying 124 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: sessions to fine wines. Each batch supposedly depended upon its 125 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: unique grapes, the tannin content of its soils, the terrain, 126 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: the humidity, the genius and personal touches of wizardry to 127 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: achieve the unique aromatic and flavor complexity of Instawar. It 128 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: was all clever marketing. None of it was based on science. 129 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 4: It was all clever marketing. None of it was based 130 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: on lock pharmacists and doctors from switching patients to lower 131 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: cost options. The lobby invented a fake distinction between biosimilars 132 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: and interchangeable biosimilars. The result has been sky high costs, 133 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 4: endless red tape, and a biosimilar market that still lags 134 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: far behind Europe's. It can cause hundreds of millions to 135 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 4: US federal taxpayer just to bring one biosimilar to American patients. 136 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: That changes today. 137 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: Under President Trump's leadership, we are ending this unscientific and 138 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 4: corrupt system. We're cutting through the barriers that protect monopolies 139 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: and opening the gates to affordable, life saving medicine for 140 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: the American people. 141 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: What am I missing? 142 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: One of the biggest drivers of these crushing costs is 143 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: the price of prescription drugs. Of course, and especially biologic drugs. 144 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: These are complex medicines made, as I said, from living 145 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: cells at treat cancer, autoimmune diseases, and rare disorders that 146 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: affected millions of Americas. Biologics make up only five percent 147 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: of our prescription they account for more than half of 148 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 4: our drug spending. Between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty one, 149 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 4: are spending on biologics more than doubled from one hundred 150 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: billion to two hundred and sixty billion twenty twenty four 151 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: reach four hundred and seven billion. Some biologics cause patients 152 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 4: up to a half million dollars a year or even 153 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: more so. 154 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: This is the Secretary of Health and Human Services. This 155 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: is Robert F. Kelly Jr. Talking about lowering drug prices. 156 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: This is accuracy creating, treating biologic carriers like chemicals, and 157 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: stifled competition. 158 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: That's what I think they're saying here. 159 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: They're not talking about getting rid of process copyrights. 160 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: Or patents on those things on the entry. So make 161 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: sure I heard that right. 162 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: Lower costs, equally safe alternatives to brand and biologics, and 163 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: even when similars do get approved, current laws often prevent 164 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 4: pharmacists or patients from substituting them for the patients who 165 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: would benefit from a more affordable option that. 166 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: All ends today. 167 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 4: Today, the FDA is taking bold, decisive action to break 168 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: down these barriers and open the markets for real competition. 169 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: The agency will release new draft guidance for companies developing biosimilars, 170 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: guidance that reflects modern science and common sense. Under this 171 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 4: new framework, companies may not always need to conduct large, 172 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 4: expensive human trials when advanced testing can already prove that 173 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 4: biosimilars work just as effectively and just as safely as 174 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: the original drug. The FDA will also consolidate several outdated 175 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: guidance documents into one streamline rule book or cutting unnecessary 176 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: red tape, reducing uncertain and making it easier for innovators 177 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 4: to bring the safe, affordable biosimilarities to the market. 178 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: So if someone creates a biologic and now other groups 179 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: have something similar in scope, they can bring it without Well, 180 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: he's not saying they can bring without the testing, right 181 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: if you order. If you argue the concept of the 182 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: generic uphill has been around for X number of years, 183 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: a level of patent goes away, and now you can 184 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: create generic versions of that drug, that's one argument. He 185 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: seems to be arguing, and I could be wrong about this, 186 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: that if you create a similar drug. 187 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: Well that's fine, and you don't have to. 188 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: Go through the same levels, and therefore you can create 189 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: what lower prices. 190 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: Again, I need to hear. 191 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: More families and for the American taxpayer, but America is 192 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: still lags far behind Europe and other nations. In Europe, 193 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: for example, regulators have improved more than twice as many 194 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: biosimilars as the United States, and patients there are paying 195 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: far less for many of these treatments. These reforms reflect 196 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: President Trump's directive to restore competition, to empower patients and 197 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: lower drug cause for every American. This is a victory 198 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: for patients, or innovation, and for common sense. We're replacing 199 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: bureaucracy with science, or replacing monopolies with competition, and we're 200 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 4: replacing despair with hope. Every American, regardless of incomers hip code, 201 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: deserves access to affordable, effective and safe medicine. The actions 202 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: were taking today move us closer to that goal and 203 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 4: advance our mission to make America healthy again. 204 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: So that's a Robert F. 205 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: Kennedy Juniors, and I'm going to when he turns it 206 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: over to Memodas is there too for Center Medicare Medicaid. 207 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: He's going to speak, and doctor Martiny McCarry is also 208 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: going to speak. I want to take it to doctor McCary, 209 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: FDA Commissioner, and hear his take on this. 210 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: Good prices for everyday Americans. We're interested in everyday Americans. 211 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 5: There's been a lot of talk about health care costs, 212 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: a lot of talk about reducing drug prices. But as 213 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: you've seen from the Oval Office, thanks to the good 214 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: work of doctor Memidas and his team at CMS, you're 215 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 5: now seeing medications come down to a price point of 216 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 5: pennies on the dollar, reforms that have been discussed for 217 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: thirty five years but have never translated into action and 218 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: most favored nation status pricing. I'm happy to contribute with 219 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: our reform at the FDA to this incredible movement to 220 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 5: lower drug prices, not by one or two percent, but significantly. 221 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: If you haven't noticed, healthcare costs have gone way up 222 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 5: since the promise of the Affordable Act to make the 223 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,119 Speaker 5: price of health insurance premiums more affordable, lowering them by 224 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: twenty five hundred dollars. Within seven years, they went up 225 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 5: by twenty five one hundred dollars the opposite direction of 226 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: the promise. 227 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: The fastest growing. 228 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: Area of health care spending in the United States is 229 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 5: drug spending, and the fastest area of drug spending increases 230 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: is with this new class of medicines called biologics. That's 231 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 5: because they are derived from cell lines. It's an expensive 232 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: process to develop biologics, so they are naturally going to 233 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: cost more, but not a thousand times more, not ten 234 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: thousand times more. I've seen biologics work, Wonders as doctor 235 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: Oz has in the hospital our patients. I've seen cancer 236 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: patients get biologics with results almost visible during the treatment. 237 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad there are results. I'm not arguing against biologics. 238 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 2: I'm asking, how are you lowering these prices? Again, If 239 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: the argument is force. 240 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: I'm out. 241 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: If the argument is a reduction of regulation or a 242 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: change in mechanism, as long as the mechanism is safe, 243 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm in. 244 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: So right now, maybe I'm missing. 245 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: It right, it's not my value Wick, but it seems 246 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: like what they're saying is the latter. They're changing methodologies 247 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: that they believe better follows today's science, that will allow 248 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: for more opportunities for more competition. Thus, lower prices. Tell 249 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: me why I would argue that. Why in the world 250 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: would I argue such a thing? Now, maybe there's an argument, right, 251 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: just because the White House puts it out or the 252 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: administration puts it out, doesn't mean that we should be like, well, 253 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: case closed. No, no, no, no no. In every situation, 254 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: in every case, with every take, we should be asking 255 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: is this the right idea? If we are saying a 256 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: reduction and regulation to create opportunities to create more competition, 257 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: I think I favor this. 258 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: Now. 259 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: If you're now going to tell people that they don't 260 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: have their patents, well that's a whole different thing. But 261 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: if you're going to say we're doing this via some 262 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: level of force and we're now basically extracting the patent, 263 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: I again say that this is not what we want. 264 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: That is too much government power. I don't care who 265 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: the president is. 266 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: So we have to dig in a. 267 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: Little deeper here because the moving on lowering prescription drug 268 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: prices by some level of government force is not is 269 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: not what we should be down for. Wanting to say 270 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: competition is good, and how do you open that up? 271 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: All in favor, I. 272 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: Think I've made my position clear. Now I have to 273 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: understand what it is that's being said here. Well, I'm 274 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: more on this. I will get to it. This is 275 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today. 276 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 6: How do you feel about that? 277 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 7: And have you talked to the Secretary Rubio about it? 278 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 7: I've joked with the Sectary about it. 279 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 8: So the President first raised this with me probably six 280 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 8: months or so ago, during just one of our private 281 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 8: lunches that we try to get lunch every couple of 282 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 8: weeks just to catch up on what's going on and 283 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 8: talk about things. He mentioned it probably six months or 284 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 8: so ago, and I mentioned it the Secretary in But 285 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 8: it feels so premature because we're still so early. 286 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: And what I. 287 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 8: Always say to people is if we take care of business, 288 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 8: the politics will take care of itself. 289 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 7: And we're nine months into this thing. We've done a 290 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 7: lot of good. 291 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 8: There's a lot more work to do, because I mean, look, 292 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 8: the thing that I most worry about is that Biden 293 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 8: left us a terrible affordability crisis. We've got to make 294 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 8: life more affordable for American citizens. Again, we've chipped away 295 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 8: at that problem, but there's a lot more work to 296 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 8: do there. So my attitude is the American people left 297 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 8: for me to be Vice president. I'm going to work 298 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 8: as hard as I can to make the president successful 299 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 8: over the next three. 300 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 7: Years and three months. 301 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 8: And if we get to a point where something else 302 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 8: in the offer, let's handle it then. 303 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 7: But let's at least get through in the next couple 304 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 7: of years and do good work for the American people. 305 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: For you want to be president of the United States, 306 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: Jadie Vance, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm not listening to 307 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: any of this. And you know it's okay. We're all 308 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: on the gag. We're all in on the joke. We're 309 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: all in on the thing. 310 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: You know it, I know it, we all know it. 311 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: You want to be president of the United States. 312 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 4: Where we talk about politics, so the President doesn't mention 313 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 4: who would be go running for president? 314 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 7: Who vice? 315 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 6: Everyone assumes it would be you. 316 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 7: But micro Rubio was. 317 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 6: Sociating these alderies run for president before. Would there be 318 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 6: any tension there? 319 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 8: First of all, no, there's not going to be any atension. 320 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 8: Marco is my best friend to the administration. He and 321 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 8: I work a lot together, and we really do. I 322 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 8: think a lot of the good work that we've been 323 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 8: able to do as an administration is because we're all 324 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 8: able to work together and you. 325 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: Have sleepovers and it's fantastic. Listen to me carefully, sir, sir, 326 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: you want to be president? And yes, I would have 327 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: believed that Marco Rubio is the guy you speak to 328 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: most often. I can't see a JD. Vance hanging around 329 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: with Howard Lutnik, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today? What is 330 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: going on? Boo boo? Find everything at Tony Katz dot 331 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: com eight three four six eight eight six sixt' nine 332 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: eight three three got Tony, you want to be president? 333 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: It's okay, so do I. I think you have a 334 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: better shot at it. 335 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: But the quote he used is he never wakes up 336 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: and thinks of it to himself, how do I make 337 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: myself president of the United States? 338 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: Yes, you have, and that is not a bad thing. 339 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: I can name for you nine thousand Democrats who have 340 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: done exactly that. Gerald Nadler once said to himself, he 341 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: liked like, maneuvered himself over to the to the mirror 342 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: and said, how do I make myself president today? 343 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: And then uh he he he. 344 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: Looked into the mirror and he said, oh, yeah, that's 345 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: never gonna happen, and then he went about his day. 346 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: Of course, you have, don't don't tell us no, don't 347 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 2: tell us no at all. Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer is out 348 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: there with the ever popular Trump is starving children gambit. 349 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: So Trump is weaponizing hunger. 350 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 9: He's turning millions of children and seniors and veterans into 351 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 9: political pawns. He's choosing politics over people, cruelty over compassion. 352 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: And let's be clear about this. They've been on a crusade. 353 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 9: The Republicans have been on a crusade against Snap all year. 354 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 9: They slashed it by two hundred billion dollars this summer 355 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 9: to pay for their tax cuts for billion. 356 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa wo for billionaires blah blah blah blah blah. 357 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Did I cut them up before I said billionaires? For billionaires? 358 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: You mean your donors, Chuck, listen. If I were you, 359 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: I would get your senate leftist progressives there to vote 360 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: for the continuing Resolution because it's all on you. It 361 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what you said here. I shared just so 362 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: people see exactly how much spin is going on. But 363 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: this is on you, kitten, and I have got the 364 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: proof of that. We'll get to that in a little bit. 365 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: I did have a couple more stories. If you don't mind. 366 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: A couple things that I wanted to get to. 367 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: This was. 368 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of the shutdown. This was again MSNBC doing the 369 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: very hard work of being as ridiculous as the day 370 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: is long discussing this shutdown and why extending the Obamacare 371 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: subsidies is a good thing. 372 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 7: But we know what Democrats have said all along. 373 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: They want an extension on these healthcare subsidies. 374 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 7: That would be the political win I would imagine without it. 375 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 6: Is there any saving face? 376 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think there is. 377 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 10: And look, I think there's a bipartisan win here for 378 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 10: both sides of this conversation because the subsidies are wildly 379 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 10: popular with filled both Democrats and Republicans. You got thirty 380 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 10: thousand people in the Speaker's district who have healthcare because 381 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 10: of the subsidies. You've got fifty one thousand and the 382 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 10: Senate majority of leaders state because of these subsidies. And so, 383 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 10: to answer your question, extending those subsidies is the win. 384 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 10: And it's only thirty five billion dollars a year. Again, 385 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 10: we just gave Argentina forty billion dollars. 386 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: But we stop, stop, stop, everyone, just stop take a moment. 387 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: It's only thirty five billion dollars a year. That is 388 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: a remarkable statement. First, are Obamacare subsidies popular? Did I 389 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: miss something? I mean, someone tell me yes or no? 390 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: Where you live? Are Obamacare subsidies popular? An answer to 391 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: that question. 392 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: Secondly, I believe I was the guy and we were. 393 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: The show that said Trump's going to extend these subsidies. 394 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: He's a populist and. 395 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: He's going to see it as popular, and he's going 396 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: to extend the subsidies. 397 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: That's going to happen. 398 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: And what Democrats are most bothered by is Trump's going 399 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: to steal the subject from them, and he won't. 400 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: They won't even be able to campaign on it. What their. 401 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: Strategist, if you will, is putting out there is the 402 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: recipe that Democrats absolutely don't want. They don't want to 403 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: share credit. They want it all, and they want to 404 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: be able to say we brought Donald Trump. 405 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 6: To his knees. 406 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: We showed those. 407 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: Rose Republicans wanted to starve babies, but we showed them. 408 00:26:52,960 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: It's a remarkable, remarkable statement, and they say it without shame. 409 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: It's only thirty five billion dollars a year. 410 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: If Obamacare is so great, why do you need the 411 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: subsidies to begin with. And if we're gonna make a 412 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: comparison to Argentina, we at least get By the way, 413 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: it was twenty billion in credit swaps. There could be 414 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: other trade packages going on, but we're talking about getting 415 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: twenty billion in their Argentinian pace, So them getting twenty 416 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: billion US dollars, they're getting the. 417 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: Better under the deal on here. 418 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: I can appreciate that people like, what in the bloody 419 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: heck is going on? But it's not like we just said, 420 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: here it is and we get nothing in return. Well, 421 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: tony thirty five billion dollars in Obamacare subsidies, you get 422 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 2: healthier Americans. The argument here is a healthcare plan we 423 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: were told was better and it's not. We were told 424 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: was going to lower costs and it doesn't. We were 425 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: told to going to save lives, and now it only 426 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: saves lives if we subsidize people. 427 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 11: Doesn't seem like much of a plant, seem like it 428 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 11: actually worked, doesn't seem like any value was created from it, 429 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 11: and we should say so. 430 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 3: But it's only thirty five billion dollars. That's that is. 431 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: That is something, but maybe not as much something as 432 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: the Democratic candidate per Senate. I'm sorry the left is 433 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: progressive and in this case Nazi tach two having candidate 434 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: for Senate in Maine. Graham Platter, who is shocked, shocked, 435 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: I say, to learn that gambling is happening in this establishment. 436 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 12: Oh my internet history I assumed was going to get 437 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 12: poured through. I mean, I'm a I'm a regular guy 438 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 12: who has lived a I'm not going to say a 439 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 12: regular life. But I was certainly not ever preparing to 440 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 12: run for the United States Senate. And so I spent 441 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 12: you know. 442 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 7: Many years commenting on the Internet. 443 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 12: I figured somebody who's going to go through all that 444 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 12: stuff at some point that I expected I will see 445 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 12: the tattoo. I did not expect the tattoo thing. I've 446 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 12: had it for twenty years. I've gone through multiple security clearances. 447 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 12: I've been taking my shirt off in front of other 448 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 12: people and taking photographs the entire time. 449 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 7: That had never. 450 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 12: Come up. 451 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 2: Exactly how often do you take off your shirt? And 452 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: when did this become a progressive qualification for running for Senate? 453 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: Since when did saying protege of Frank the Tank end 454 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: up as a line on your CV? And Jen Saki 455 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: is just just sitting there going tell me more. Graham 456 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: you're dreamy, and you sound like every giant I've ever 457 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 2: heard of from a child's fantasy book. He has a 458 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: super low voice. Did you catch that? Like he's a like? 459 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: That's that is? That is impressive right there, that you 460 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: could do some voiceover work there, right, And considering you're 461 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: taking off the shirt and Nazi tattoos from some very 462 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: specific OnlyFans porn voiceover work, there's only like three or 463 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: four of you up for the gig. I say, your 464 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: odds are very good, right, you should listen what what whatever, 465 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: your whatever, your fetish. His safe for it is guten tag. 466 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: They're still pushing this guy. They're still rolling with this guy. 467 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: So in a course of just a few minutes, what 468 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: we have learned is that the progressives have decided that 469 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: they're losing the messaging battle. 470 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 3: So their new tact is Trump is starving children. 471 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: Then they think you should have to give up more 472 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: money for Obamacare subsidies after you already got screwed out 473 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: of your doctrine plan because it's only thirty five billion dollars. 474 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: And Nazi tattoos don't mean anything, but calling people you 475 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: disagree with Nazis means everything. 476 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: And we learned that jd. 477 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: Vance is clearly thinking about being president every single day, 478 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: because of course he is. But there's a lot of 479 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: people thinking this a lots of people, and no one 480 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: should think no matter what Trump says, that jd Vance 481 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: is going to somehow get the nominational by himself. 482 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: That ain't happening. I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony 483 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: Katz today. 484 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 6: I mean, it's kind of crazy. 485 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: You know. 486 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 6: I kind of agree with him. 487 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 13: If you instead of investigating a man who's no longer 488 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 13: in office, I would like y'all to find out why 489 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 13: the US military is striking vessels without verifying who's in them. 490 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to discuss Woopy Goldberg. No, not 491 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: if you want to discuss what Pigelberg. No, No, if 492 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: you want to discuss and now I'm turning two Woop Goldberg? 493 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: Who you just heard right there? 494 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: The taking out of drug boats, that's fine, but that 495 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with your previous sentence. 496 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: As the Attorney General is. 497 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: Taking a look at the Biden administration and the autopen pardons, 498 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: as we get the story from the House Oversight Committee 499 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: regarding the utilization of the autopen and the very clear 500 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: understanding that I believe exists, that Joe Biden may not 501 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: have been aware who was getting a pardon, and therefore 502 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: none of those pardons should count Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, 503 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: but you have the audacity to say this. 504 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of crazy. 505 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 13: You know, I kind of agree with him if you 506 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 13: instead of investigating a man who is no longer in office, 507 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 13: I would like y'all to find out why the US 508 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 13: tarry's striking vessels without verifying who's in them. 509 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: You investigated Donald Trump for four years. The Attorney General 510 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: of New York, Latisha James, ran for office discussing how 511 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: she was going to go after Donald Trump now when 512 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: it's Joe Biden. We don't investigate people when they're out 513 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: of office. Is this the new standard? Because if so, 514 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for twenty twenty eight January twenty first, 515 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, new president comes in. Can we stop 516 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: with the whole Trump's running for a third term. I 517 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: know what he says on Air Force One. I know 518 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: it drives people crazy. Isn't that why he says it? 519 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: It's so very, very obvious. 520 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: If you've ever had a little brother who put their 521 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: finger their gross ugly dirty pointer finger right. 522 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: Next to your cheek and said, I'm not touching you. 523 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm not touching you. 524 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: That's Donald Trump to the left, I'm not touching you. 525 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 3: Why would you fall for this? 526 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure there are some people in magavell and 527 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: political right and be like, oh, yeah, you know you 528 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: can do this. The constitution doesn't say this, and he 529 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: can run for a third term. No, he can't stop it. 530 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: Moving on. 531 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: You don't want people to be investigated when they're already 532 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: out of office. I want to see where what peg 533 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 2: Goldberg is January twenty first, twenty twenty nine, and where 534 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: she will be is probably still on the view saying 535 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: we really need to investigate Donald Trump because you see 536 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: what he did. 537 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 3: We're crimes. Well, how do you know that? 538 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: Because I feel that way, and how I feel is 539 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: the most important thing in the world. All the world 540 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: should be based on my feelings. My feelings are the 541 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: one ring to rule us all and in the darkness 542 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: of the view bind us. 543 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: These people. 544 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: And they speak from like they believe that wholeheartedly and 545 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: never once asked themselves, wait a second, does that make 546 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: me a hypocritical freak? 547 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 3: And the answer is yes. On Tony katts