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Speaker 2: Is it day sixteen? Is it day seventeen of the shutdown?

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think anybody cares. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Now on the Young Republicans, another sad chapter in how

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Speaker 2: It's been two days.

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Speaker 3: Since Politico published a horrifying story revealing thousands, thousands of

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Speaker 3: private messages containing racist, sexist, and violent comments from prominent

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Speaker 3: members of the Young Republicans organization.

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Speaker 2: And yet.

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Speaker 3: President Trump and the Republican leadership has remained silent.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing but radio silence.

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Speaker 3: From Republican leaders who seemed to claim they worry about

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a moment to tell you right

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Speaker 2: It is going to utilize language that maybe isn't right

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Speaker 2: for you or your children, parental consent is advised. As

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Speaker 2: a parental guidance is advised. I'm just advising, did I

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Speaker 2: say low? My name's Tony Katz, The show is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, and Chuck Schumer is a fraud. All these

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Speaker 2: look at Jay Jones of Virginia, a candidate for Attorney

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Speaker 4: You don't look at that.

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Speaker 2: These vile things said in these text messages back and forth,

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Speaker 4: Let's see if he gets into what was said.

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Speaker 3: The silence from Republican leaders in the face of Hitler

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Speaker 2: Where are they.

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Speaker 3: When they don't like somebody who says something on the

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Speaker 3: one of the nastiest, most vicious things that we have

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Speaker 2: You killed Charlie Kirk and people said his skirt was

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, you absolute half wit, should be that all

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Speaker 2: of this is obscene, everything written by these morons, and

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Speaker 2: these aren't seventeen year olds, these are twenty seven year olds.

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Speaker 4: You are responsible for your actions.

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Speaker 2: Matt Walsh said, why are we always piling up on

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Speaker 2: Get lectured by Chuck Schumer that unmitigated fraud lowlife who

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Speaker 4: Nah, Chuck Schumer can kiss my butt.

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Speaker 2: Now. I clean that up for radio, and I cleaned

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Speaker 2: But every part of this conversation that Chuck Schumer is

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Speaker 2: Who the hell is Chuck Schumer to even have a thought? You,

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Speaker 2: You want a lecture to me, Chuck Bubbala, Who the

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Speaker 3: As I said, Republicans never miss a chance to preach

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Speaker 2: But now that it's coming from their own ranks.

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Speaker 3: Some Republicans seem to even excuse this vile behavior.

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Speaker 3: The Vice President of the United States, no less, JD. Vance,

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Speaker 4: What JD. Vance said.

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Speaker 2: Was that I'm not going to pearl clutch when you

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Speaker 2: clear there's a difference between some morons who run a

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Speaker 4: This is one where he didn't hit it perfectly. He's

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to pearl clutch while you allow this.

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Speaker 2: I don't let Chuck Schumer lecture to me. I don't

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Speaker 2: Ilhano morow keep using that example. Chris van Holland is

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Speaker 4: You're gonna need more lemon pledge.

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Speaker 2: But I can argue that jd Vance missed the moment

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Speaker 3: A college group chat, does jd Vance really glorifying Hitler

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Speaker 4: Just excusing it.

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Speaker 3: Despicable, disgraceful, shameful, exactly.

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Speaker 2: What you would do, Chuck. You know, it's like the commercials,

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Speaker 2: where'd you get these drugs? Where did you get this?

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Speaker 2: Where did you learn how to do this? I learned

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Speaker 2: Vance learned it from Chuck Shimmer. All the despicableness that

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Speaker 4: Yesterday.

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Speaker 4: From you, Chuck.

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Speaker 2: They learned how to ignore what happens in their own

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Speaker 4: That's where they learned it from. And we should be clear.

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Speaker 2: You know why, Chuck a luck. They learned it from you.

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Speaker 2: They learned it from Nancy Pelosi, they learned it from

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Speaker 2: what was the name of the Kennedy? What's the name

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Speaker 2: of the murderer of Kennedy? You know who left the

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Speaker 2: Mary Joe Capecney to die? Which cakennedy? Was that? Not

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Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy? Not John Kennedy? What's the name Teddy? He

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Speaker 4: That murderer.

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Speaker 2: What about Robert Byrd, Grand Wizard, grand priest, total bigot

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Speaker 2: of the KKK personal hero learned it from you, Chuck.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it, I don't want it, and I

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Speaker 2: as JD. Van said, clutch your pearls, bitch, please, We're

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Speaker 2: not interested. You have no moral high grounds. And if

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Speaker 2: in a way you find reprehensible, we learned it from you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I am stunned that this madness hasn't just faded away

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Speaker 4: I want that title. Can someone can somebody.

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Speaker 2: Get like like with a like a what do you

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Speaker 2: Not a degree, some kind of on a what a plaque?

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Speaker 2: I need something that calls me the vice president of

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Speaker 4: The vice president of all of science.

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Speaker 2: The only thing greater than that would be the President

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Speaker 8: Now, the pledges that have been made to date by

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Speaker 4: Is satisfied? I put forth to you.

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Speaker 2: The answer is no, not until you're eating bugs and

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Speaker 2: Every time they talk, every time the cult feeling just

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Speaker 2: whether classified or unclassified, what the Pentagon was saying is

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Speaker 2: it will prevent you from having access. And to that point,

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Speaker 2: I said, if you are a reporter, a journalist given

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Speaker 2: access to something, you have to make the call on

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Speaker 2: whether or not you're going to publish it.

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Speaker 4: What if it is a secret that would harm Americans?

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Speaker 4: Do you publish it?

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Speaker 2: What if it is the proceedings, here's the plan to

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Speaker 2: go get aim that terrorist, he publish it, would you

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Speaker 2: would prevent the United States from achieving a strategic goal.

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Speaker 2: You would possibly put military and others in harm's way

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Speaker 2: by letting this information out. You're the journalist, how do

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Speaker 2: you handle that? Which I think is a worthy conversation,

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Speaker 2: And that's where I discussed it, and these It says,

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Speaker 2: my signature represents my acknowledgment understanding of such policies and procedures.

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Speaker 2: Even if I do not necessarily agree with such policies

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Speaker 2: and procedures, Signing this acknowledgment does not waive any rights

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Speaker 2: I may have under law. And so what the federalists

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Speaker 2: argument is is that nothing year has changed, and I

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Speaker 2: think they have now put enough out there to make

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Speaker 2: us ask what is it that we're seeing and is

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Speaker 2: the response from the media legitimate?

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Speaker 4: And will we see them.

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Speaker 2: All come come back for their press passes nine days

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Speaker 2: from now? I don't know. Also, I would take my

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Speaker 2: own look to see at the federals is one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent right because trustporld verify. But I like that they

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Speaker 2: put an argument into the space and said, hey, wholla, who,

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Speaker 2: here's a way to look at it.

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Speaker 4: We need more of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Kats today SMRs.

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Speaker 2: It's about time small modular reactors. This is the future

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Speaker 2: of energy and needs to be a great conversation in

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Speaker 2: a world where somewhere where you don't want it to

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Speaker 2: be a data center is coming Tony Kaks Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you guys. These SMRs are basically

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Speaker 2: small nuclear reactors. News Nation with the story that the

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Speaker 2: US Army has launched a program to build microreactors to

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Speaker 2: power military bases nationwide. Now this needs to fold into

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Speaker 2: a story regarding Chinese nationals or any foreign national who

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Speaker 2: owns land near a military base, that land needs to

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Speaker 2: be taken. And before you say to me, well, what

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Speaker 2: about property rights? Foreign nationals don't have property rights Americans.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to fight about this? We can fight

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Speaker 2: about this. What kind of crazy are we discussing here?

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Speaker 2: You're a Chinese national, You're allowed to own land near

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Speaker 2: a military base where we've already seen how people utilize

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Speaker 2: proximity to take down communications and a whole host of

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Speaker 2: violent acts. We've seen how drones can be utilized as

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Speaker 2: weapons of war. No, why would anybody ever think that's okay? Well,

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Speaker 2: the Constitution says it doesn't say it for Chinese nationals.

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Speaker 4: It says it for American citizens.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it says the Chinese national

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Speaker 2: and I'm quoting here, screw them, by the way, you

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Speaker 2: can put anything in for Chinese. And when we say

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Speaker 2: Chinese need we mean communist. We mean the communist Chinese Party,

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Speaker 2: which is absolutely at war with the United States and

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Speaker 2: wants to do great damage to us. Why would you

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Speaker 2: ever give them this opportunity? Are you mental?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: See I said that wrong, not you, You're fine? Are

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Speaker 2: they mental? And the answer is somewhat. Yes. So one

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Speaker 2: of the things that what has to happen is not

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Speaker 2: just in its military capacity, is we have to ask

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Speaker 2: ourselves if the power grid is already old, if the

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Speaker 2: power grid is already susceptible, why in the world do

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Speaker 2: we keep focusing on and relying on an old, susceptible

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Speaker 2: power grid. I believe my grandmother Ethyl rest her soul,

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Speaker 2: said it best when she said to me, Tony, that's

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Speaker 2: just stupid. That's what she said. And let me tell you, Ethel,

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Speaker 2: she understood we should be engaging in what are known

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Speaker 2: as SMRs and in these small nuclear reactors.

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Speaker 4: Now someone's gonna say to me, oh great, now you

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Speaker 4: want to bring nuclear to the United States. Yes, I do.

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Speaker 4: Did you forget about.

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Speaker 2: Three Mile Island?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: I did not. You want to talk about technology from

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Speaker 2: the eighties or technologies from today. You want to talk

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Speaker 2: about the redundancy systems in nuclear that have been outrageously,

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Speaker 2: outrageously effective.

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Speaker 4: We of course should be looking at this rely on

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Speaker 4: what the wind. That's the answer. It's a terrible an answer.

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Speaker 4: If you take a look at.

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Speaker 2: Data center is one of the biggest problems is that

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Speaker 2: the power that it takes also certainly the water that takes.

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Speaker 2: But these kinds of things, these kinds of module reactors,

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Speaker 2: can solve that problem. The data centers are coming to

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Speaker 2: whether you like it or not. You just got to

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to power them. You want our

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Speaker 2: military to be dark because someone said nuclear is bad,

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Speaker 2: and you don't want the Chinese to not be next door.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you're okay with that. We need grown ups in charge.

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Speaker 2: Quick.

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Speaker 4: I'm Tony Kats.

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Speaker 1: Why from ball Heartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony cats today.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, if you're thinking about winning the election,

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Speaker 10: you know, and so now that's all going to come

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Speaker 10: down to seven or eight states, and that's that's really

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Speaker 10: that matters. And I would like to remind everybody because

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Speaker 10: we all know that that Trump ran ran the table

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Speaker 10: all of those kinds of states, and now you can't

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Speaker 10: ever forget these are the states that are going to

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Speaker 10: determine who's going to be the next administration. And now

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Speaker 10: a lot of the things the extremism that people turn

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Speaker 10: their back in twenty four and that's how we kind

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Speaker 10: of came up short. I mean, you know, I campaigned

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Speaker 10: for thousands, thousands and thousands of miles across Pennsylvania for

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Speaker 10: Vice President Harris, and it was going to be incredibly difficult.

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Speaker 10: You could just feel the energy there and people really

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Speaker 10: have connected there and at a very fundamental and that's

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Speaker 10: where I tried to explain to my party, and I'm

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Speaker 10: trying to explain to the party right now. It's like,

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Speaker 10: this is why we lost, and this is where we

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Speaker 10: need to be to continue to win for these thincts.

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Speaker 10: And there are parts of extreme things emerging clearly on

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Speaker 10: those things, and that's why I refuse to follow that,

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Speaker 10: even if that is going to cost me a support

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Speaker 10: in parts of the base.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is costing John Federick support in parts of

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Speaker 2: the base. His whole conversation yesterday in that town hall

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Speaker 2: on News Nation at the Kennedy Center. There's no question

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Speaker 2: that the reason the story is today in Axios that

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Speaker 2: the Democrats are looking to get him out. He's not

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Speaker 2: following along, he's not doing what he's told. He is

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Speaker 2: not progressive enough. Tony Kats Tony Katz today, Great to

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Speaker 2: be with you, Great to be here, eight three to three.

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Speaker 2: Got Tony call in be a part of the show.

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Speaker 2: Tony at Tony Kats dot com, Twitter, x Tony Kats Instagram,

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats and Facebook, Tony Kats Radio Connect Join, come on,

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Speaker 2: happy to hear from you.

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Speaker 4: John Fetterman is a leftist.

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Speaker 2: He is you take a look at his voting record,

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Speaker 2: absolutely left. But John Fetterman has committed to cardinal sins.

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Speaker 2: John Fetterman has honestly addressed the issues with the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 2: the radical extremism within the party and the false statements

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Speaker 2: that get made repeatedly.

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Speaker 10: That's why shutting the government is really what the Democratic

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Speaker 10: Party wants to do. And I follow country, then party,

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Speaker 10: and it's the wrong thing for the country in a

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Speaker 10: period of chaos. I refuse to vote to shut our

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Speaker 10: government down. I absolutely would love to have I would

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Speaker 10: love to have a conversation about extending the tax credits

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Speaker 10: for healthcare. Absolutely, but I would remind everybody too, this

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Speaker 10: was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at the

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Speaker 10: end of the year. This is not something taken from

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Speaker 10: but by the Republicans. That's they were designed to expire.

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Speaker 10: Now let's have a conversation to extend it.

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Speaker 2: John Fetterman just told the truth. And as you know,

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Speaker 2: the truth will not set you free. The truth will

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Speaker 2: get you fired. Yeah, that's a cynical way to look

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Speaker 2: at the world. But tell me I'm wrong. The Obamacare

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Speaker 2: subsidies are set to sunset at the end of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 4: You know who said that? We did. You know who's

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Speaker 4: been saying that for.

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Speaker 2: Three weeks now we have you know who voted for

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Speaker 2: those subsidies. Democrats When when they voted for the Inflation

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Speaker 2: Reduction Act during COVID, You know when they said those

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Speaker 2: subsidies with sunset the end of twenty twenty five, they

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Speaker 2: voted for it.

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Speaker 4: They voted for it.

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Speaker 2: They know exactly what's going on. And now John Fetterman, yes,

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Speaker 2: the guy who had the stroke, he is honestly addressing

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Speaker 2: the situation. Keep the government open. Then let's talk about

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Speaker 2: this thing. But let's not act like Republicans are doing

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Speaker 2: this to us. We did this to ourselves, which is

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Speaker 2: the honest approach, and honesty does not get rewarded. Honesty

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Speaker 2: leads to front page stories over at Axios about how

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Speaker 2: Democrats are trying to remove you from power. In addition

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Speaker 2: to this, he engaged a very maybe eye opening, clear headed,

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Speaker 2: one could say, but certainly thoughtful conversation. I know what

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Speaker 2: you're saying, This is the guy who had the stroke?

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Speaker 2: Right right, We've got people in the chat room saying,

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Speaker 2: hard to believe Ftterman is the voice of reason for

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Speaker 2: the Democrats.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna kind of turn you a little bit of

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Speaker 4: this one.

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Speaker 2: We say that because of the stroke, and I would

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Speaker 2: argue it's hard to believe it's Fetterman based on his

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Speaker 2: own past politics and certainly how he ran for office

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Speaker 2: against mem ANDAZ. But maybe the question would better be asked,

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Speaker 2: who else did you think would be the voice of

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Speaker 2: reason for the Democrats? Who were you expecting it to be.

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Speaker 2: If it's indeed hard to believe that it's John Fetterman,

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Speaker 2: whom amongst the Democrats that you know of in the Senate,

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Speaker 2: would it have been easier to believe is the voice

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Speaker 2: of reason for the Democrats?

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Speaker 4: And at that moment you really are struck with the huh.

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Speaker 2: I don't have anybody. I don't have anybody.

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Speaker 4: Amy Klobuchar think, God see that Chris Murphy from Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: I don't see that.

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Speaker 2: So I think that that the point being made in

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Speaker 2: the comment is accurate. It's Tony made that comment, great name,

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Speaker 2: by the way, that's it is accurate.

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Speaker 4: It is hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that is is maybe more telling

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Speaker 2: is the idea of who would it be if it

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Speaker 2: wasn't John Fetterman.

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Speaker 4: It's not that there's someone easier to believe.

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Speaker 2: You see in the Senate, you could point to a

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Speaker 2: Tom Tillis, You could point to a Todd Young, you

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Speaker 2: could point to a McConnell. As people who are viewed

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Speaker 2: by the right as more moderate or more squishy. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: Republicans can show you that who do you have in

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Speaker 2: amongst the Democrats? You used to because you could have

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Speaker 2: said Joe Lieberman, who is al Gore's running in two thousand,

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Speaker 2: most recently you could have said Joe Manchin. Those people

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Speaker 2: are dead or gone. Now there is none of that

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Speaker 2: that exists anymore. Just as a matter of comparative conversation,

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Speaker 2: there is no big tent in the Democratic Party. There

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Speaker 2: is only a room for one type of person in

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Speaker 2: the tent, the people who passed the ideological test, and

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Speaker 2: the ideological test gets more and more left leaning every day.

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Speaker 2: But going back to Fetterman, at this town hall, he

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Speaker 2: engages the conversation of could we please stop with the

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Speaker 2: idea that everybody we disagree with is a freaking fascist

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Speaker 2: or a Nazi.

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Speaker 10: I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up

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Speaker 10: in a conservative part of Pennsylvania, and I grew up

658
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Speaker 10: and I know and I love people that voted for

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Speaker 10: and Trump, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis.

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Speaker 10: They're not trying to destroy her the Constitution in those things.

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Speaker 10: And that's part of another thing. I refuse to call

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Speaker 10: people Nazis or fascists, or I would never compare anybody,

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Speaker 10: anybody to Hitler and those things. And now that kind

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Speaker 10: of extreme rhetoric is going to continue, We're going to

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Speaker 10: be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes

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Speaker 10: and political violence and doing all these kinds of things

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Speaker 10: like Charlie Kirk. For me, all I could say is like,

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Speaker 10: let people grieve.

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Speaker 2: Let's leave it there for a second. I wouldn't call

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Speaker 2: them fascists. I wouldn't call them Nazis. First of all, interesting,

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Speaker 2: he's the only Democrat in his family. That's actually very

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Speaker 2: very interesting.

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Speaker 4: But here he is.

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Speaker 2: Having a conversation of these are the things we shouldn't do.

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Speaker 4: And it is here where he gets.

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Speaker 2: Into the conversation about Charles Kirk that I think for

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who may still be kind of

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Speaker 2: dismissive of him and wary.

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Speaker 4: I think warry would be the better word here. Wary

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Speaker 4: of this from a Democrat?

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Speaker 2: Do I really believe it.

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Speaker 4: He's got this give people the space.

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Speaker 10: I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that

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Speaker 10: passic assassination to make my argument and try to put

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Speaker 10: on my views.

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Speaker 2: It's like my gut.

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Speaker 10: You know, he's a father that had his neck blown

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Speaker 10: out by a bullet, and now people have forgotten President

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Speaker 10: Trump was in my state, was shot in the head,

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Speaker 10: and if that would have could you imagine where our

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Speaker 10: NATU would be if he was hit in the same

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Speaker 10: way with Kirk, we really got to turn the temperature

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Speaker 10: down and we can agree to disagree on these kinds

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Speaker 10: of things, but right now, shutting down the government. I

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Speaker 10: just can't take a bit.

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Speaker 2: A whole conversation about toning down the rhetoric.

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Speaker 4: You've heard me say.

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Speaker 2: That I don't buy into that argument of toning down

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Speaker 2: the rhetoric. I don't. And the reason that I don't

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Speaker 2: is what rhetoric am I supposed to tone down? Am I

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Speaker 2: supposed to tone down? As I've stated the truth that

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Speaker 2: men are not women and women are not men.

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Speaker 4: I won't do that.

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Speaker 2: Am I supposed to tone down the rhetoric of we

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Speaker 2: should not have any quarter, any allowance for a legal

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Speaker 2: immigration and we should be all in on strengthening legal

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Speaker 2: immigration for people who actually want to be Americans, live

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Speaker 2: the American way of life, and love being in America.

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Speaker 2: Not toning down that rhetoric, not for a second. Toning

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Speaker 2: down the rhetoric is what gets said to make you

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Speaker 2: who isn't shooting at anybody stop talking.

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Speaker 4: But I will take.

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Speaker 2: Endor Fetterman here at his very honest word that he

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Speaker 2: actually wants to see these things happen. I was very

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Speaker 2: happy to hear him say it. I was very happy

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Speaker 2: to hear him put it out there. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to get him to agree with me on trans issues.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna get him agree with

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Speaker 2: me on the border issue or on financial but those

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Speaker 2: will be disagreements, and in some way they are very

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Speaker 2: very rough disagreements, not ones where I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be buddy buddy afterwards. But my gosh, just to hear

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Speaker 2: people on the other side of the aisle having the conversation.

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Speaker 4: This way earnestly is good.

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Speaker 2: And what you need to remember is for that.

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Speaker 4: He will be thrown out.

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Speaker 2: They will work over time to remove him from any

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Speaker 2: position of power, remove him from the center r race,

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Speaker 2: end his career for not being in the tent of

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Speaker 2: one mind. As many a black Republican has explained over

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Speaker 2: the years see L. Bryant and others, the thing that

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Speaker 2: Democrats hate most is when people get off the plantation.

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Speaker 2: I don't think truer words Everman said keep it here

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Speaker 2: on Tony Katz And this is Tony Kats today. So

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Speaker 2: Caroline Levett, white House Press Secretary, was just speaking to

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Speaker 2: the gaggle outside of the White House and made mention

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Speaker 2: of a judge. If you head over to Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: dot com in just a few moments, you will see

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Speaker 2: the show sheet appear right before where your eyes. You

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Speaker 2: can get it every day if you subscribe to Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz dot com. It's free to do. You can be

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Speaker 2: a supporter. I'd appreciate it, but you don't have to.

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Speaker 2: I can appreciate that too. It is there Tony kats

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Speaker 2: dot com. And the top story that I have is

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Speaker 2: about this judge, this federal I'm sorry, this US District

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Speaker 2: Court Judge Susan Avon Ilston said that the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: cannot fire workers during the government shutdown to tro This

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Speaker 2: coming days after the administration issued reduction in force notifications

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Speaker 2: to more than four thousand federal workers. Russ Vote of

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Speaker 2: the Office of Management and Budget has said you could

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Speaker 2: see upwards of ten thousand or more federal workers losing

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Speaker 2: their gigs. The order blocks the administration, as ordered by CNBC,

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Speaker 2: to take from taking any action to follow through with

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Speaker 2: those workers' terminations or to issue further RIfS reductions in force. Quote,

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Speaker 2: the activities that are being undertaken here are contrary to

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Speaker 2: the laws.

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Speaker 4: You can't do this in a nation of.

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Speaker 2: Laws, and we have laws here, and the things that

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Speaker 2: are being articulated here are not within the law. I

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Speaker 2: will give this judge one hundred billion dollars if she

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Speaker 2: says law one more time. Who is this judge to

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Speaker 2: make this determination? What authority do you have to tell

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Speaker 2: the White House during a government shutdown whether or.

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Speaker 4: Not people have to have a job.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 4: What laws are you now pointing to?

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Speaker 2: She called the firings unprecedented, saying, quote, it is also

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Speaker 2: far from normal for an administration of fire line level

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Speaker 2: civilian employees during a government shutdown as a way to

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Speaker 2: punish the opposing political party, disbar her, remove from the bench,

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Speaker 2: removed from being able to ever engage in the law profession.

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Speaker 2: What made you think this was about the opposing party?

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Speaker 2: And what made you think you get to decide the reason?

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Speaker 2: Why do you get to decide the reason? The President

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Speaker 2: of the United States, as I see it, can fire

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Speaker 2: anybody within the federal government. The president decides to fire

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Speaker 2: any time the president chooses, as long as they're an

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Speaker 2: employee and not let's say, an elected official. And there

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Speaker 2: might be a procedure that one needs to go through.

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Speaker 2: But this is unprecedented. Who cares If it's unprecedented, What

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Speaker 2: does that matter? You can only do the thing that

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Speaker 2: existed prior. What exists to prior got us to the

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Speaker 2: place where and now the place where now is not

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Speaker 2: any good. So you need to do something different to

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Speaker 2: get out of the place you are now. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: That's what this judge is saying.

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Speaker 2: That's what this judge is saying, and that is madness,

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Speaker 2: absolute madness. You want more madness, I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 2: The tenyure treasury today dropped below four percent. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't know where it's gonna end up, but this is

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Speaker 2: barrier number one.

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Speaker 4: The ten year treasury under four percent.

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Speaker 2: Done. Just so we're all on the same page. The

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Speaker 2: tenure treasury makes up the basis of the thirty year

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Speaker 2: fixed mortgage mortgage.

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Speaker 4: So you take.

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Speaker 2: The tenure treasury, there's a basis point spread, a percentage spread,

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Speaker 2: and that's how you get the thirty year fixed. In June,

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Speaker 2: you had, for example, a treasury, a tenure treasury that

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Speaker 2: was four point three to one. You had a thirty

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Speaker 2: year fixed a six point seven seven. So it was

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Speaker 2: a spread of two hundred and fifty basis points, give

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Speaker 2: or take two and a half percent. Every hundred basis

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Speaker 2: points is a percent. So now you see a tenure

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Speaker 2: treasury at three point what what was it?

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Speaker 4: Three point what eight?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Who, No, it's over.

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Speaker 2: Here three point nine eighty eight, So let's call it

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Speaker 2: four percent. That brings the right down to six and

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Speaker 2: a half, which means if you can get yourself to

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Speaker 2: the three and a half numbers, can you know the

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Speaker 2: spread can change. You would be starting to see interest

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Speaker 2: rates under six percent. Now, yes, for those of us

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Speaker 2: who have a level of history to these things, whether

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Speaker 2: we were homeowners, you know, twenty years ago or what

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Speaker 2: have you. It's still a high interest rate, historically speaking,

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Speaker 2: not at all. Historically speaking, America went through thirteen percent interests,

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Speaker 2: seventeen percent interest in buying a house. But you start

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Speaker 2: getting under six, psychologically, you start getting people buying, you

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Speaker 2: start getting people selling, which is a weird part of

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Speaker 2: this real estate market that people who would normally sell

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Speaker 2: their home and downsize, then you'd have people desperate to

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Speaker 2: have a larger home for their growing family. They're not selling.

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Speaker 2: There's no place to go. Rates are too high. There's

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Speaker 2: no place to go. We already live here. I don't

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Speaker 2: have to pack anything forget it. So you start cracking

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Speaker 2: under six, you'll spur a lot that what's his name

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Speaker 2: from Shark Tank, Kevin O'Leary thinks five and a half

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Speaker 2: as the magic number. That's when everything goes crazy. Get

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Speaker 2: this thing under six, we'll see. This is Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: today President Trump posting on truth Social I have just

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Speaker 2: concluded my telephone conversation with President Vladimir Putin of Russia,

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Speaker 2: and it was a very productive one, says President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Katz Today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything over at Tony katz dot com, Live streaming

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, ex Tony Kat's YouTube, Tony Katz Facebook, Tony

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Speaker 2: kats Radio.

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Speaker 4: Subscribe be a part of it.

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Speaker 2: President Putin congratulated me in the United States and the

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Speaker 2: great accomplishment of peace in the Middle East, something that

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Speaker 2: he said he had dreamed of for centuries, or has

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Speaker 2: been dreamed of for centuries, not that he had dreamed

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Speaker 2: of for centuries. Better quote, I actually believe that the

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Speaker 2: success of the Middle East to a helping on negotiation

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Speaker 2: in attaining an end to the war with Russia Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: President Putin thanked the First Lady Milania for involvement for

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Speaker 2: her involvement with children. He was very appreciative and said

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Speaker 2: that this will continue. We also spent a great deal

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Speaker 2: of time talking about trade between Russia and the United

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Speaker 2: States when the war with Ukraine is over. At the

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Speaker 2: conclusion of the call, we agree that there will be

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Speaker 2: a meeting of our high level advisors next week the

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Speaker 2: United States. Initial meetings will be led by Secretary of

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Speaker 2: Saint Marco Rubio, together with various other people to be designated.

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Speaker 2: A meeting location is to be determined President Putin. I

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Speaker 2: will then meet and agreed upon in and agreed upon

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Speaker 2: location Budapest, hungry to see if we can bring this

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Speaker 2: inglorious war between Russian and Ukraine to an end.

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Speaker 4: President Zelensky and I will be meeting tomorrow in the.

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Speaker 2: Oval Office, where we will discuss my conversation with President

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Speaker 2: Putin and much more. I believe great progress was made

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Speaker 2: with today's telephone conversation from President Trump. Some from when

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Speaker 2: I'm speaking twenty minutes ago, a little bit after one

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern time, is when President Trump put that out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't know. I wasn't on

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Speaker 2: the phone call. I do not know what to expect.

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Speaker 2: But we will. Uh, we'll see, uh, we'll see what

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Speaker 2: the meaning is. We will we'll see what comes from it.

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Speaker 2: Let me, as I said to you, a few things.

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Speaker 4: I want to share.

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Speaker 2: First, is a level of delusion, so great, so grand,

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Speaker 2: so perfectly. Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris is delusional, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: The former Vice president in an interview with Karris Swisher,

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Speaker 2: who I believe is New York Times these days. This

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Speaker 2: was a conversation about Kamala Harris's resume about running for president,

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Speaker 2: and Switcher asked, was it time constraints that affected the

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Speaker 2: ability for people to know you, which is of course

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Speaker 2: weird because she had been vice president for four years,

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Speaker 2: But Kamala Harris states, no, it's not that simple. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's about, yes, getting to know me in my background

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Speaker 2: and what I've done, and the fact that I was

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Speaker 2: elected district attorney for two terms, as the first woman

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Speaker 2: elected attorney general in the state of California. I was

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Speaker 2: a United States Senator, second black women elected in the

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Speaker 2: history of the United States Senate. And I was the

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Speaker 2: first woman Vice president of the United States. So there

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Speaker 2: are those things that I needed to make sure that

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Speaker 2: people knew.

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Speaker 4: So a large part of her.

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Speaker 2: Resume is the fact that she doesn't have a penis.

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Speaker 2: That's a tremendous amount of what.

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Speaker 4: What did I say.

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Speaker 11: I'm just saying that she thinks that her being a woman,

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Speaker 11: and she thinks her being black is a huge part

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Speaker 11: of her resume, not necessarily what she accomplished in those roles,

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Speaker 11: but just these things about her, these these these yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's weird. I'm not saying.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying, but no, but I'm saying she's

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Speaker 2: saying that a large part of her career is because

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Speaker 2: she doesn't have a penis.

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Speaker 4: That's what she's saying.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm I'm.

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Speaker 4: Relaying that to people.

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Speaker 2: At that moment, Kara Switcher is like, Okay, that's a

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Speaker 2: decent resume, which brings about this exchange right here.

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Speaker 4: That is, but that is a decent resume.

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Speaker 2: But go ahead there.

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Speaker 10: Well, some people have actually said I I was the

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Speaker 10: most qualified candidate ever to run for president.

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Speaker 4: I like you, I like this.

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Speaker 12: Some people say, very nice, but go ahead, I'm just

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Speaker 12: speaking fact.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, there are moments when I'm doing the show

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Speaker 2: that I'm so absolutely out of my head disgusted with

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Speaker 2: what I hear. I so desperately want to scream and

919
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Speaker 2: say things that one cannot say on radio that I

920
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: have come to realize that if I just play the

921
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Speaker 2: theme from the television show Taxi, breathe deep lax and

922
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Speaker 2: enjoy the incredible flute, Yeah, usually makes everything better and

923
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Speaker 2: then I'm able to get back on with the show.

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Speaker 2: No one in the history of ever ever said that

925
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris the most qualified candidate ever to run for President.

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Speaker 2: No one ever said it ever. Doug Emhoff never said it.

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Speaker 2: It never got said by anyone anywhere. It is a ridiculous,

928
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Speaker 2: ridiculous statement. It is a lie, It is silly, it

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Speaker 2: is embarrassing. It is perfectly Kamala Harris, Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: insane stuff, not insane stuff.

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Speaker 4: Was this from Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith. I'll say it again. I'm not a not a fan.

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Speaker 2: He's never been my guy over there at ESPN, but

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Speaker 2: he did something in the town hall last night there

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Speaker 2: that News Nation had right there was the town hall

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Speaker 2: in CNN. I mean the CNN town hall was chock

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Speaker 2: full of silliness. I mean this from Representative Accossio Cortes.

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Speaker 6: And they are able to radicalize and target and exploit

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Speaker 6: a generation of young boys, in particular away from healthy

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Speaker 6: masculinity and into an insecure masculinity that requires the domination

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Speaker 6: of others who are poorer, browner, darker, or.

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Speaker 2: A different gender than them.

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Speaker 6: And that is why they are resonating online, because they

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Speaker 6: are appealing to the most basic and worst parts of

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Speaker 6: human nature to divide them.

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Speaker 2: Representative Occassia Cortes knows absolutely nothing nothing about masculinity and

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Speaker 2: to say this away.

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Speaker 6: From healthy masculinity and into an insecure masculinity that requires

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Speaker 6: the domination of others.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about the men who claim to be women

951
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Speaker 2: and tell women in sports to lose their positions and

952
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Speaker 2: tell other women to deal with them in the locker rooms.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're talking about, because you're not talking about me.

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Speaker 2: You're not talking about the men in America who come

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Speaker 2: home from their first job just to see how the

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Speaker 2: kids are doing with their homework, give their wife a kids,

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Speaker 2: and go to their second job. That's not who you're

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Speaker 2: talking about. That's not who you're talking about. What the

959
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Speaker 2: hell do you know about masculinity? Possibly could you know

960
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Speaker 2: about what men do and how men think and how

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Speaker 2: men act?

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Speaker 4: Which brings us to Stephen A.

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Speaker 2: Smith Because one of the people at this town hall

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Speaker 2: was an air traffic controller isn't able to work because

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Speaker 2: of the shutdown, and what is he doing door dash?

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's doing it for a side hustle.

967
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Speaker 2: Maybe he's doing it to make ends meet. But the rant,

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Speaker 2: if you will, that Steven A. Smith goes on isn't

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Speaker 2: special because it's the same one you've done on the

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Speaker 2: bar stool, sitting on your couch, at the kitchen table.

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Speaker 4: You have said this in a multiplicity of ways.

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Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith just has the microphone and the television

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Speaker 2: camera on him, and he said, what you're saying.

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Speaker 13: We're listening to this kind of stuff, while a young

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Speaker 13: man walked up to the microphone and said that he

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Speaker 13: had leave here to go and work on door dash

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Speaker 13: to help pay for his daughters to issue.

978
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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, everybody up here getting paid.

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Speaker 2: Right it's Stephen A. Smith, it's Bill O'Reilly, it's a representative,

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan, Representative Rokahana, and I forget the name of

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Speaker 2: the other congresswoman there, so forgive me. They're all on

982
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Speaker 2: the stage, absolutely, and they're all getting paid.

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Speaker 4: And he continues, but he ain't. This is this kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff right here.

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Speaker 2: That's how you know.

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Speaker 13: And I'm not accusing any of you directly or personally

987
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 13: or feeling this way. I'm just talking about the apparatus

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Speaker 13: that is Washington, the nation's capital.

989
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 2: This is why you have.

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Speaker 13: So many Americans excuse my language, so pissed at Washington,

991
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 13: because somehow, some way you get to have these conversations,

992
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 13: engage in specific elements of it to talk about what

993
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Speaker 13: we need to do to get things better.

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Speaker 9: I debt this thirty seven point eighty trillion. Somehow, some way,

995
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Speaker 9: the taxpayer has been paying this, been throwing money, because

996
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 9: we all look at our check, it has been.

997
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Speaker 4: Going to the government.

998
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: And somehow, some way, you're supposed to be doing.

999
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Speaker 13: Something constructive and productive enough to make sure that we.

1000
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Speaker 4: Don't have that kind of deficit.

1001
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 2: It isn't happening.

1002
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Speaker 4: A government shutdown is going on right now. A man

1003
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Speaker 4: has to work on door dash.

1004
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 9: When he's really an air traffic controller that we applaud it.

1005
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 4: And we're up here talking.

1006
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Speaker 13: About how much some money is gonna cost, and the

1007
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 13: only person that don't have a check coming is him.

1008
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna do.

1009
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a break, all right, We'll.

1010
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Speaker 2: Go to the audience. And he walked off the stage.

1011
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: That from NewsBusters right there. There's nothing that he said

1012
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 2: that you have and said before. I just want to

1013
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: be clear about that what he said is not revolutionary,

1014
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: but I am appreciative that he said it, that he

1015
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Speaker 2: took that opportunity.

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Speaker 4: We are not.

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Speaker 2: Getting our money's worth when it comes to the people

1018
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: we elect and the things that we need done.

1019
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 4: These basics.

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Speaker 2: We're not and that is how a lot of Americans feel.

1021
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: In the meantime, it continues. In the meantime. There is

1022
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 2: no end to the shutdown in sight, unless it's going

1023
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: to end with the No Kings Rally.

1024
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Speaker 4: An interesting story. I'll get to that next. Keep it here.

1025
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Speaker 4: This is Tony Kats today. I got so wrapped up in.

1026
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Speaker 2: Learning that Producer land and has never seen The Godfather.

1027
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was going to talk about. I mean,

1028
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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm in levels of outrage at the moment.

1029
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: He has never ever seen the Godfather. No, ladies, no,

1030
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Speaker 2: you do not date Producer Land And until I've seen

1031
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: The Godfather, you don't date anybody who hasn't seen The

1032
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Speaker 2: Godfather and Godfather too Godfather three. You don't have to

1033
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Speaker 2: watch it solely. Fine, I will allow that, Tony Kats.

1034
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: Tony Kats Today, good to be with you.

1035
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Speaker 4: I swear to you.

1036
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: So outraged, I forgot what I was going to talk about.

1037
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: I just that is something that is completely something made

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Speaker 2: me forget my place. I do have this unique story

1039
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Speaker 2: about the View. Someone will remind me what I was

1040
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: gonna talk about, and I'll hit it really quick. The

1041
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: View did something very strange the View. The ladies of

1042
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 2: the View go to the show and say, you know,

1043
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: they'd like to have more Republicans on the show, but

1044
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 2: they's too scared to come on. They might be too

1045
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: scared to be a regular host on the show because

1046
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: every day you all beat them up. Elizabeth Hasselbach, Megan

1047
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: McCain to the extent Alissa farah as even a conservative.

1048
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: Maybe that, but who is afraid to come on the View?

1049
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: You had Bill O'Reilly on the View and two of

1050
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Speaker 2: you walked off the set. Who's afraid here? But I

1051
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: noticed that this is now two and it's not yet

1052
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: a trend, but rather it is interesting, maybe a data point.

1053
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Speaker 4: It was Jimmy Kimmel the other day.

1054
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Speaker 2: Who stated that, oh sure he'd have Trump on the air,

1055
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Speaker 2: He'd have Trump on the show, which was a very

1056
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: very clearly.

1057
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Speaker 4: This this kind of begging.

1058
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Speaker 2: To to get him on right. Ratings are awful, ratings

1059
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: are terrible. Now you've got the view, I put forth

1060
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 2: to you that a missive has come forth from ABC,

1061
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: especially after having to pay the sixteen million dollars.

1062
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Speaker 4: To Trump.

1063
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Speaker 2: And of course what Stephanoppolis and how he acted with

1064
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Speaker 2: Jade Vance the other day, which you know, the real

1065
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 2: question is why do Republicans still go on the show

1066
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Speaker 2: with George Stephanopolis.

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Speaker 4: They have to stop. I think the missive has come.

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: Forth from ABC that you need to get more Republicans

1069
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 2: on your airwaves because that means ratings. Maybe it means

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Speaker 2: Trump believe us alone, but it certainly means ratings possibility

1071
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Speaker 2: and bringing an audience back somewhere. There's a note.

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Speaker 4: I'd bet on it. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Live from dall Hertbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 4: It's Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: As we reported on yesterday, Trump has Israel and Hamas

1076
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: in the rear view. The fact that Hamas isn't turning

1077
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Speaker 2: over these remains as fast as was demanded as part

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Speaker 2: of the deal. You're hearing about possibility of more strikes

1079
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Speaker 2: going on by the IDF on Hamas targets in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: President Trump is saying, I'm off that subject. I've got peace.

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Speaker 2: I'm now on to Russia and Ukraine. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats Today, Good to be with you. Find everything at

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats dot com. I am curious to know what

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Speaker 2: is he thinks he can get done there, because that

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Speaker 2: involves getting Putin to the table.

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Speaker 4: You can't get Putin to the table through kindness.

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Speaker 2: He knows this, and he now has to ask himself

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Speaker 2: exactly what pressure points can be utilized to make Russia

1089
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Speaker 2: say this isn't going to be fun anymore.

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Speaker 4: That's the question.

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Speaker 2: Russia can outlast Ukraine if NATO gets involved, European forces

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Speaker 2: end up on the ground, NATO is able to utilize

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Speaker 2: military hardware, including tomahawks, it becomes a level of unfun

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Speaker 2: for Vladimir Putin. The thing is just tougher. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean he still can't go forward, of course he can.

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Speaker 2: He has a total willingness to lose as many lives

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Speaker 2: as possible. He has an absolute willingness to drone attack

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Speaker 2: in Kiev and in other strategic spots. He's unconcerned about

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Speaker 2: those things. So with that, with that, what actually is

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Speaker 2: the pressure point? Is it money? Is it bodies? Is

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: it some level of unrest in Moscow that threatens his throne?

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Speaker 2: We can call it the throne at this stage of

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01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: the game. Maybe, maybe, maybe maybe I think that the

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01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 2: argument is what exactly is the thing that would make

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Speaker 2: him say, all right, let's take the off ramp? I

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: still get the land, right, I still get Dnetsk in

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01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: La Hans and Japorzia and these areas, because what Trump

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: has said is I don't see any reason why Ukraine

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01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,480
Speaker 2: can push them back to their original line, their original boundaries.

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Speaker 2: So now is putting in a position where he has

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01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,560
Speaker 2: to fight for the thing that he was gonna get

1112
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: when he met Trump in Anchorage.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you he was gonna get land.

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Speaker 2: That meeting with the world leaders was to tell Zelenski,

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna give this up and we're all gonna go

1116
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: have coffee.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: That was the plan. And then it was it was

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01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 2: Putin who blew it up. And now it's.

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Speaker 4: A different formation.

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01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: You've got a NATO leader in route who wants to fight, seemingly,

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01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: and you've pod Trump enough where he's like, yeah, let's

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: give him some hell and.

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 4: See what happens. So now we're going to see what happens.

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Speaker 2: But when he tells us that he's focusing attention on

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01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 2: Russia and Ukraine, I'm not sure yet what it means

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: that we have to find out.

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Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 10: I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up

1130
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 10: in a conservative part of Pennsylvania, and I grew up

1131
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 10: and I know and I love people that voted for

1132
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 10: President Trump, but they are not fascists, they're not Nazis.

1133
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 10: They're not trying to destroy her the constitution most.

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Speaker 2: And that's why John Fetterman will no longer be the

1135
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 2: Senator from Pennsylvania because the Democrats are going to primary

1136
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 2: challenge the living daylights out of him. You already have

1137
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: axios with the story that this is the plan. He

1138
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: spoke at a town hall of to there on News

1139
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: Nation and said, I disagree with people. It doesn't make

1140
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: them fascists. Dear Lord, they try to assassinate Charlie Kirk.

1141
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: We toned down the rhetoric and for that he will

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01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: be destroyed. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Great to be

1143
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: with you. Ed Morrissey joins me right now the Kapo

1144
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: Detuti Coppo over at hot air dot com. That's where

1145
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: you find his work at Morrissey on the Twitter xbox.

1146
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna get into Fetterman, but you've got a story

1147
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: and I commented on this and people check out my

1148
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 2: show sheet over there at Tony Katz dot com. You

1149
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 2: wright panic at the demsco as opposed to Disco, Obama

1150
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: jumps in to save Spamberger in Virginia. This is the

1151
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 2: gubernatorial candidate, the Democrat, Abigail Spamberger, who's just getting walloped

1152
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 2: every which way but loose by the Republican Lieutenant governor

1153
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Winsome Earl Sears is her name, specifically because Spamberger won't

1154
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: denounce the Attorney general candidate Jay Jones, who said that

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: the Republican Speaker of the House of Virginia should be

1156
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 2: killed along with his two kids.

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Speaker 4: And when you see Obama supporting Spamberger.

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 2: Just like you see Obama going in to California saying,

1159
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: you know what, we should redistrict, the translation only comes

1160
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: out to my god, they really are feeling some desperation here.

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: Ed Morrissey, talk to.

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01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 2: Me about what's going on in this Virginia race and

1163
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:29,799
Speaker 2: Obama's entrance.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean you've covered it pretty well here, Tony.

1165
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 12: This is not the first time that Obama's done this.

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01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 12: People may forget this, but he had to do this

1167
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 12: four years ago to try to save Terry mccalli's campaign

1168
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 12: in the Good minatorial election in which Glenn Youngkin want

1169
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 12: a surprise victory. And this is. You know, Terry mccaulliff,

1170
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 12: his big problem was that he equated parents showing up

1171
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 12: to school board meetings to domestic terrorism. Now this is

1172
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,959
Speaker 12: right after January sixth, and Democrats thought that the January

1173
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,959
Speaker 12: sixth narrative was a win for elections, and Terry mccaulliff

1174
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 12: went all in on that and ended up getting spanked

1175
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 12: in the general election, surprisingly so by Glenn Youngkin. They're

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 12: doing the same thing here, and it's really mystifying to

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Speaker 12: me what the calculation is here. Because j Jones may

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01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 12: or may not have won the Attorney general race without

1179
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 12: these without these texts coming out, I think he was

1180
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 12: slightly ahead against the incumbent Jason Miarrez. But an AG

1181
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 12: race is not as important as a gubernatorial race. And

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 12: the you know, the rule in politics is usually very practical.

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01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 12: If somebody becomes a liability, you cut them off right

1184
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 12: you you dumped them, You denounce them and save your

1185
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 12: own skin. Democrats have not done that with j Jones,

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01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 12: even though J Jones was stupid enough to put this

1187
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 12: in a reproducible media texting, right, this idea that I

1188
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 12: forget the name of the speaker, but to I can't

1189
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 12: recall his last name, Todd Gilbert and his children, Todd Gilbert,

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01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 12: Thank you verych Todd Gilbert and his children should be

1191
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 12: murdered so that Republicans vote better on policy issues, which

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01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 12: was then followed up by claims that he had also

1193
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 12: said that law enforcement officers should be killed in order

1194
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 12: to reduce police shootings. That's the type of thing that

1195
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 12: is far worse than anything to call offf Ever did

1196
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 12: or said. And Spanberger just as decided to stick with him,

1197
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 12: and so has Tim Caine, so has Mark Warner, so

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Speaker 12: as the entire Democrat establishment now including Barack Obama. He's

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Speaker 12: going there to rescue Spanberger because Spanberger won't denounce Jones.

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 12: And so basically this is the upshot of this is

1201
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 12: the Jones scandal is going to infect Democrats nationally because

1202
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 12: they're nationalizing this election by bringing in Obama rather than

1203
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 12: just say Jones is a moron and you shouldn't vote

1204
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 12: for him. I mean, it's pretty are at least we're

1205
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 12: not going to endorse him. You know, make up your

1206
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 12: own mind on Jones, but we're no longer endorsing him

1207
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 12: after seeing those messages. It's very simple, and it would

1208
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 12: have been very understandable to cut him loose. Instead, they're

1209
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 12: doubling down on stupid and they're bringing in Obama to

1210
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 12: try to score the double down.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com, there are

1212
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: a lot of names, so let's break it down to

1213
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: a more component, a basic component understanding of what it

1214
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: is that we're seeing here. What we're seeing here is

1215
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: that when a bunch of morons on the political right

1216
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 2: are involved in group text talking joyfully about Hitler, mocking Jews,

1217
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 2: mocking black people, using the N word, all these things,

1218
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: it's the end of civilization as we know it. And

1219
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 2: you'll see people on the political rights say, yeah, that's dumb. Sorry,

1220
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: you're going to lose your job. No, you can't be

1221
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 2: connected to at least to phonic. You know, you can't

1222
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 2: be connected to this one, that one, the other one.

1223
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: You got to go a job. Maybe you'll learn, maybe

1224
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 2: you'll get better and smarter. You can come back in

1225
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: ten years. But the political left doesn't look at their

1226
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: own house and.

1227
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 4: Say this is unacceptable.

1228
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: So people don't want to get on the case of

1229
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 2: these people on the political right because the left doesn't

1230
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: get on the case of the political left. I argue

1231
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: that what we're seeing on the political left should be

1232
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 2: called out on every level. This call for violence is

1233
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: will for the willingness for violence, the obscenity. But when

1234
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 2: you see it in your own side, you got to

1235
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 2: say that that's wrong. That's the that's the play that

1236
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: actually moves people. Am I wrong about that? No?

1237
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 12: No, I think you're right, and not just because it's

1238
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 12: strategic or tactical, just because it's the right. Right, you

1239
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 12: you should tell people. You should tell people who are

1240
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 12: saying yay Hitler to go pound sand. However, there is

1241
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 12: a difference between a group of you know what we

1242
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 12: could probably you know, you know, sarcastically referred to as

1243
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 12: NPC's non player characters having a group chat someplace, and

1244
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 12: having somebody who's actually running for office talking about cheering

1245
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 12: on the murder his opponent's children. That's a whole different thing.

1246
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 12: This is an actual candidate for office who's saying this, right,

1247
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 12: and he was in office at the time he was

1248
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 12: saying it. He was a state legislator at the time

1249
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,879
Speaker 12: that he was saying that. He was texting this argument,

1250
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 12: and so there's it's a completely different issue. I mean, yeah,

1251
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 12: you can go you can go troll Discord and find

1252
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 12: idiots across the spectrum saying idiotic things. This is a

1253
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 12: guy who's actually running for state wide office in Virginia

1254
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 12: on the Democrat ticket, and he's been he said these things.

1255
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 12: He said the number of things that are very radical

1256
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 12: and just morally repugnant, and Democrats are refusing to police

1257
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 12: their own situations. It's amazing to me. I think it's

1258
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 12: I mean, we can talk a little bit more about

1259
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 12: the era of shamelessness and politics that's been ever since

1260
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 12: Bill Clinton waggled a finger at a podium said I

1261
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 12: did not have sex relations with that woman.

1262
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 2: What kind of impression is that?

1263
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 4: That's your impressions?

1264
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 12: That's as good as it gets on a Thursday morning.

1265
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: Come on, now, by the way, can you speak to

1266
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 2: people who wag their fingers at others? Can you do

1267
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: the impression of Nancy Pelosi yelling at a reporter, shut up,

1268
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,799
Speaker 2: don't talk to me about January sixth. You don't understand

1269
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: what I understand. It's all Trump's foot, that's all it is. Like,

1270
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: that's not bad.

1271
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 4: That's not bad. Nancy Pelosi? In my view, what about

1272
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 4: you got one?

1273
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Speaker 12: It would be Nancy Pelosi. If Nancy Pelosi was on

1274
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 12: the Upper West Side, I think that that's right. Nancy

1275
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 12: Pelosi is though she was from the Upper West Side.

1276
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 12: But still, yeah, neither one of us should go into

1277
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 12: the impersonation industry. I don't think we have I don't.

1278
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 12: I think we should both keep our day jobs.

1279
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, that says you talking to Ed Morrissey of hot

1280
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 2: air dot com. Impersonations is my day job. The But

1281
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 2: you want to talk about wagging the finger, you want

1282
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 2: to talk about coming in and saying I'm above it

1283
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: on you should listen to me. That's this Barack Obama

1284
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: story going into Virginia thinking he could save it for her.

1285
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: He's now in favor of redistricting and talking about this

1286
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: in California. Barack Obama today is not the Barack Obama

1287
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: of ten years ago. He doesn't have the juice that

1288
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: he used to have. That's not me being engaging in

1289
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: hyperbole or just oh because he's a Democrat. This is

1290
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: the data. He doesn't have this play. Look what he

1291
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: was doing about black men in the Kamala Harris election.

1292
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: How much that backfired. Barack Obama's going to make the

1293
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,480
Speaker 2: difference for Democrats.

1294
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 12: No, I don't think so. He didn't make the difference

1295
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 12: for Democrats four years ago, and he had more juice

1296
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 12: back then, Right, He was more relevant four years ago,

1297
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 12: especially in the aftermath of January sixth, and before all

1298
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 12: this stuff started coming out about how they basically cooked

1299
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 12: up the Russia collusion delegations against Donald Trump. He's got

1300
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 12: much less juice these days, and he's barely showed up.

1301
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 12: He's too busy making movies, I guess at Netflix or

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Speaker 12: building that really interesting looking Presidential Library in Chicago looks

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Speaker 12: like a disaster unfolding in slow motion.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 12: He's just not He's not part of the conversation anymore.

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Speaker 12: I will say this, The failure of the expert class

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Speaker 12: that Obama curated in the pandemic and then in the

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01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 12: Middle East, I think makes his position even makes him

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Speaker 12: even less relevant than he was, say two months ago,

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Speaker 12: three months ago. I think Barack Obama taking out Rand's

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Speaker 12: nuclear facilities and putting an end to that threat once

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01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 12: and for all made Barack Obama. It really exposed Barack

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Speaker 12: Obama as as a diletant thinker on the world stage

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Speaker 12: and made Obama is I'm completely irrelevant and he's going

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Speaker 12: to go in there. He's going to fire up the

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Speaker 12: federal workers in northern Virginia, maybe who weren't going to

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Speaker 12: vote for win some earl series in the first place.

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Speaker 12: But I think that there's a potential here for backfire

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Speaker 12: by sticking Obama in front of the entirety of Virginia

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Speaker 12: and thinking that it might not result in a higher

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Speaker 12: turnout among people who just don't like Obama in the

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Speaker 12: rest of Virginia. I think that they're doubling down on

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01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 12: stupid in Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Talk to Ed Morssey of hotair dot com.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back now to something we were discussing with

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Speaker 2: John Fetterman, who does this town hall on News Nation

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01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: there at the Kennedy Center. Just because you disagree with

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Speaker 2: me doesn't make you a fascist. Republicans are not fascist.

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01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 2: Trump supporters are not fascist. We have to stop this

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Speaker 2: and then being very honest about what this shutdown is.

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Speaker 10: Then party and it's the wrong thing for the country

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Speaker 10: in a period of chaos. I refuse to vote to

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Speaker 10: shut our government down. I absolutely would love.

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Speaker 2: To have.

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Speaker 10: I would love to have a conversation about extending the

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01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 10: tax credits for healthcare, absolutely, but I would remind everybody too.

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Speaker 10: This was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at

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Speaker 10: the end of the year. This is not something taken

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Speaker 10: from by the Republicans.

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Speaker 2: And for that, Ed Morrissey, for the honesty, and of

1341
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: course clearly for the support of Israel's existence and calling

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Speaker 2: from us the terrorists that they are. The Democrats have

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01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: the long knives out. He's going to be a one

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Speaker 2: term senator. True or false?

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Speaker 12: Well, I don't know that he's going to be a

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01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 12: one term senator. He's got options here. They're certainly going

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01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 12: to try to make him a one term senator, and

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Speaker 12: I would I think it's not because of the shutdown.

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Speaker 12: I don't think that has anything to do with it.

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Speaker 12: They are going to make him. They're going to try

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Speaker 12: to make him a one term senator because of his

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01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 12: position on Israel and because he's basically the moral center

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01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 12: of the Democrat caucus as it is right now, and

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Speaker 12: the radical left doesn't like it. And you know, I

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Speaker 12: did a little research on it this morning, because I've

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Speaker 12: written a piece about this. I went to guv Track

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01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 12: and looked at his voting record or what they what

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Speaker 12: they call the ideological positioning of this of the Senate

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Speaker 12: in the previous Congress. This is twenty twenty three to

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty five. John Fetterman is the sixteenth most left

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01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 12: leaning senator in the United States Senate. You know who

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01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 12: scores much worse than him in terms of ideology with

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Speaker 12: the radical left, Adam Schiff. Adam Schiff is actually slightly

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01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 12: to the right of Lisa Rakowski this on this list,

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Speaker 12: Chuck Schumer is farther to the right, like by fifteen positions,

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01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 12: farther to the right than John Fetterman. John Fetterman votes

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Speaker 12: with this party. John Fetterman basically votes with the hard left,

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Speaker 12: not as much as say Bernie Sanders does or Mazy

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Speaker 12: Herono does. But he's sixteenth. He's not even the center

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Speaker 12: of the caucus. He's to the left of the center

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Speaker 12: of his own caucus. So you have to ask yourself,

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Speaker 12: why are they trying to Why are they trying to

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Speaker 12: get rid of him. It's certainly not because of his

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Speaker 12: voting record. It's because of his moral strength and his

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01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 12: moral positioning. They don't like it, and they want to

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01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 12: get rid of him so that they get somebody in

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 12: there who will let the radical left do whatever the

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Speaker 12: radical left wants to do without shaming them. And that's

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01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 12: the only reason why Democrats in Pennsylvania wouldn't want to

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Speaker 12: get rid of Fetterman. He's basically doing exactly what they

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 12: elected him to do, to be a left leaning senator

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Speaker 12: from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: And why on the national scene they will burn him

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Speaker 2: to the ground. We will see if Pennsylvanians see it differently.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to the Selina Zito kind of reporting

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01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,480
Speaker 2: to see where a people in western Michigan, western Pennsylvania

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01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,440
Speaker 2: are really at before I let you go at marcyhotair

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 4: I shared this yesterday. You wrote about this.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday Harry Enton talking about the shutdown and where Democrats

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Speaker 2: are heading into the midterms, and anybody who thinks this

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01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: shutdown is playing into their hands, they're doing great. Schumer

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01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: saying where we're getting our position is getting stronger every day.

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Speaker 2: It isn't showing in the polling. It's not showing what

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Speaker 2: the people at.

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Speaker 12: No and I went looking past where engine looks for polling.

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Speaker 12: I think he was looking at one specific poll which

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Speaker 12: shows that it hasn't changed. The generic ballad is still

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 12: D plus three, which is not good for Democrats. By

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Speaker 12: the way, they really need a D plus five at

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01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 12: least in order to gain seats. But I went and

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01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 12: looked at Real Clear Politics and actually it's a D.

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01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 12: D plus one point nine is of yesterday the average,

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01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 12: which is not far off from where Enttin's at, but

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01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 12: that actually has dropped in the last two weeks of

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01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 12: the shutdown. They went from D three point six to

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01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 12: D one point nine. A. There's apparently been an impact

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01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 12: with the shutdown, but it's the exact opposite impact that

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01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 12: Democrats want. People are unhappy with the shutdown and people

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01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 12: are unhappy with the general direction, and those polls basically

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01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 12: reflect the political situation prior to Donald Trump getting the

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Speaker 12: hostages out of Gaza, and I suspect that those poles

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01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 12: are going to look a little bit different over the

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Speaker 12: next couple of weeks. That may not be a laughing

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01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 12: impact of anything what else happens in the Middle East,

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01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 12: but Donald Trump came back to the US with a

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01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 12: lot more strength than he left it on the basis

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Speaker 12: of getting those hostages out. And I think that after

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Speaker 12: this weekend no Kings demonstrations, Chuck's going to pull it.

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Speaker 4: Let's find out at Morrissey hootair dot com.

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01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time more is coming up

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Speaker 2: to keep it here.

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Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Today, another day of the shutdown is going on, and

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Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you that if the Democratic Party

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Speaker 2: sees a win, they're not looking at what the rest

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Speaker 2: of us are looking at.

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Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, took to the

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Speaker 2: podium again to say, hey, Democrats, what are you doing for.

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Speaker 5: The security of our country? If you're keeping count?

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Speaker 14: Nine times now, nine times the Senate Democrats have voted

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Speaker 14: to keep the government closed. All the House Democrats except

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01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 14: one voted September nineteenth to shut it down. So this

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01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 14: is ten total times now that Democrats in Congress have

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01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 14: voted to close the government. And we know what that

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01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 14: means for real people. We know what it means for

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01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 14: our troops and our border patrol agents and TSA agents

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01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 14: and air traffic controllers and everybody who relies upon services

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01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 14: around the country.

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Speaker 5: It's very real.

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Speaker 14: And so today marks yet another day of American families

1443
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 14: feeling the very real personal and economic strain of this

1444
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 14: reckless decision that our Democrat.

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01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 5: Colleagues keep making.

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Speaker 14: They want the United States government to remain closed, and

1447
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 14: they seem not to care about the pain that it's causing.

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01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 14: They have offered no plan, they have offered no strategy,

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01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 14: They have offered no common sense path forward for ending

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01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 14: this situation. And so many of you have asked, all

1451
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 14: of us, how will it end? We have no idea.

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01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 14: It's up to the Democrats and they have to decide it.

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01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,839
Speaker 14: And judging by their outrageous behavior, the Democrats appear perfectly

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01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 14: happy to keep the political theater going while real people suffer.

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01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 2: Now, this signals to anybody who's paying attention that what

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01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 2: the Republicans are doing for the first time, or very infrequently,

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01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 2: let's call it very infrequently, right, how would I know

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01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 2: the first time? They're not going to bend. They're not

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01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: going to yield. Now, least in the House, they're not

1460
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: gonna ben. They're not gonna yield. You'll notice as a

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Speaker 2: speaker Johnson not set up Majority Leader Thoon engage in

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Speaker 2: these conversations.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to give in.

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01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: They don't care what the Democrats throw, what names they throw,

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01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 2: all the rest. You're killing grandma, you're doing this. You

1466
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,839
Speaker 2: have to vote for the clean Resolution, the continuing Resolution,

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01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: that's what you have to do. And you know we

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01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 2: were talking about John Fetterman and how it is that

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Speaker 2: they are going to go after.

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Speaker 4: Him on the political left.

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Speaker 2: Well, allow me, there's no doubt that they are going

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Speaker 2: to try and get him out of office and vilify

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01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: him for saying this last night.

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Speaker 10: And is really what the Democratic Party wants to do.

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01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 10: And I follow country then party, and it's the wrong

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01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 10: thing for the country in a period of chaos. I

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Speaker 10: refuse to vote to shut our government down.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely would love.

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Speaker 11: To have.

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Speaker 10: I would love to have a conversation about extending the

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01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:45,720
Speaker 10: tax credits for healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, but I.

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Speaker 10: Would remind everybody too, this was designed by the Democratic

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01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 10: Party to expire at the end of the year. This

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01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 10: is not something taken from by the Republicans. That's they

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01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 10: were designed to expire. Now, let's have a conversation to

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01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 10: extend it.

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01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 2: Go ahead, but to admit that it was voted on

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Speaker 2: the Inflation Reduction Act, which it was by all the Democrats,

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01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: and that the Democrats knew what sunset at the end

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01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, and to turn around and say

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01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 2: Republicans are creating a healthcare crisis is a lie. Fetterman

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01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 2: is the honest guy here. We have been honest about

1494
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 2: this the entire time. And what Republicans are saying is,

1495
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 2: you can tell you can scream about us in healthcare

1496
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 2: all you want. The American people don't buy it anymore,

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Speaker 2: and we aren't going to break This is on you,

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01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, figure it out.

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Speaker 14: And that's why House Republicans made the responsible decision for

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01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,799
Speaker 14: our members to spend this week in their districts working

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01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 14: for the people.

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01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 5: They're helping their constituents, They're.

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01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 14: Helping the American people navigate the mess that the Democrats

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01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:55,600
Speaker 14: have created. Staying back to work with our constituents was

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01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 14: a decision that we made very thoughtfully, and we made

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01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 14: collectively as a group House Republicans.

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01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 5: We have so much of that work to do.

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01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 14: It's not some talking point, it's not some strategic tactic.

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01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 14: We made that decision out of urgent necessity. So I

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01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 14: want to highlight here just this morning, just very briefly,

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01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 14: just a couple of examples, a small sample, some of

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01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 14: the very important work that House Republicans are doing on

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01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 14: the ground right now to help Americans through this difficult time.

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01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 14: In the state of Michigan, for example, our members are

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01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 14: sitting down with veterans, men and women who risk their

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01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 14: lives for our country, and they're struggling now because the

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Speaker 14: services they depend on. Health services, for example, have come

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Speaker 14: to a halt thanks to the Schumer shutdown. So in Michigan,

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Speaker 14: our Republicans from the House or they are working through

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Speaker 14: those situations. In Texas, many of our Republican colleagues have

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01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 14: met with some of our brave border patrol agents down

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01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 14: on that southern border who are still reporting for duty

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Speaker 14: without a paycheck. In Montana, Congressman Ryan Zinki helped park

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01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 14: rangers who are keeping the parks open as best they

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01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 14: can for families and travelers, even as they.

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Speaker 5: Themselves go without a paycheck.

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Speaker 14: Across the Midwest, we have members who are meeting with

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01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 14: local and regional airports to your firsthand how furloughs and

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01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 14: blocked paychecks there are hurting the people who keep our

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01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,879
Speaker 14: skies safe, really important stuff. And rural communities around the country,

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01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 14: Republicans are working hand in hand with their local hospitals

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01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,480
Speaker 14: to make sure that the fifty billion dollar rural Hospital

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Speaker 14: Fund that Republicans got signed in the law in July

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01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 14: fourth is accessed.

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Speaker 2: Now all of that is seeing as a lot of

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01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 2: political bluster. The way you tell the story about here's

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01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 2: what we appropriate and here's how it's helping rural hospitals

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01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: is not through a statement from the Speaker of the

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01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,560
Speaker 2: House in a very very low key voice from the podium.

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01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 2: Rather you do that through a visual medium of messaging.

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01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 2: It's almost filmmaking in that. So this is not the

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01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 2: argument that is going to most capture people. This is

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01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 2: the argument that makes people close their eyes. So he

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01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 2: doesn't want to be in that. He shouldn't want to

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01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: be in that part of it. Don't lose what is

1546
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 2: clearly momentum. Don't lose any level of focus. It is

1547
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: about what it is that the Democrats are keeping from

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01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: the American people and who it is that the Democrats

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01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 2: are hurting. Through other mediums, you discuss who it is

1550
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: Republicans are helping. That's just about how you present the

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01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: entirety of the conversation.

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01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 5: To parties that could not be more clear.

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Speaker 14: As we say here every day, this is not your

1554
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 14: grandfather's Democratic Party. It truly has become the far left

1555
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 14: Marxist left that are running that whole operation, and it

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01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 14: has real effects on real people. And I just want

1557
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 14: you to highlight again the split screen of what we're

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01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 14: seeing in America right now. There are two diametrically opposed

1559
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 14: visions for the country. And you should look at the

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01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 14: actions of elected officials and not their words. And what

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01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 14: are the actions President Trump and Republicans are delivering for

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01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 14: the American people.

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01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 5: We have cut their taxes.

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01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 14: We are removing red tape and regulations to get the

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01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 14: economy humming again.

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Speaker 5: We have ended the.

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01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 14: Border crisis virtually zero crossings in the last four months

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Speaker 14: under President Trump. We are ending the crime crisis around America,

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01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 14: taking heroic measures to make sure that happens. We're cutting fraud, waste,

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01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 14: and abuse out of government and making government more efficient

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01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 14: and effective for the people. And right now President Trump

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01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 14: is resolving international conflicts, restoring peace through strength around the globe.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly it. Don't engage the other stuff. This

1574
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 2: is how you engage it. And he was talking about

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01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,919
Speaker 2: the contrast between the two parties.

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Speaker 4: This is correct.

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01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 2: There is a large scale difference between the two parties.

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01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 2: And I always have people who look at me askew

1579
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: when we engage this, and they get angry with me

1580
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 2: when we engage this. I get, I understand, I appreciate,

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01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: and I do not think you're wrong when you discuss

1582
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 2: the idea of the uniparty.

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01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 4: I hear you out loud.

1584
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 2: I understand that you're saying that these two parties they,

1585
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 2: you know, Democrats spend and Republicans spend slower, and somehow

1586
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 2: it's okay. There's never a moment of real cuts, of

1587
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: real savings, of real Hey what about the American people?

1588
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 2: What about me?

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01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 4: Dang it?

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's an incredibly important thing to

1591
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 2: note that there is too much chumminess that takes place.

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01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 2: It's way too much. I don't disagree, but the idea

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01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 2: that there's no difference between these parties, sorry, that's just

1594
01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 2: not real. That's just not true. Vote for Republican, vote

1595
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 2: for the Democrat, get the same thing. Maybe on some subjects,

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01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 2: but not on all subjects. It's not true about the border,

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Speaker 2: is it? Hold on, it's a uniparty. They're all the same.

1598
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 2: They're clearly not all the same. So therefore the uniparty

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01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 2: conversation doesn't work Engaging areas where Republicans don't act like Republicans.

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Speaker 2: That is extremely worthy, and that happens a lot, but

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01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 2: does it happen all the time?

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: The uniparty argument is the argument of weakness, which is

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01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 2: to say that people who make that argument are weak.

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01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: They're unwilling to say, listen, there is this over here,

1606
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 2: and this over here and this over here, and part

1607
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 2: of it, the other part of it is they don't

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01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 2: think that you can handle that argument, so they go

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01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 2: about engaging it this way and brought brush it and

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01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, yeah, that's right.

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01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:52,679
Speaker 4: They're all the same.

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01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 2: The hell they are. When they're too similar, we should say,

1613
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: so they're all the same as just nutty.

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01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,919
Speaker 4: It's just nutty, whether.

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01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 2: We're talking about the southern border, whether we're talking about

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01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 2: the recognition of terrorists, whether we're talking about the opposition

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01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 2: to socialism. You had a town hall yesterday and CNN

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01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: with Bernie Sanders and a Cassio Cortes.

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01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 4: By the way, Bernie Sanders looked terrible.

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Speaker 2: You know, he sounded the same, but I'm saying how

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01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 2: he looked.

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Speaker 4: He looked just awful. He looked old. Weirdly enough, he.

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01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 2: Looked old, and he looked like he had work done right.

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01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 2: It's both things. It was very odd. Now maybe it's

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01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 2: just the videos that I saw. But it's the same old, boring,

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01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 2: staid conversation that seems to work on twenty somethings in college,

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01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: but doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 4: When you look at it applied in the real world.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's the problem is is that this policy, which

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01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 2: is the ZAR on Mom Donnie policy, might very well

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01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 2: get him elected. There's a big, big debate in New York,

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01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 2: a New York mayor's debate. It's Mom Donnie, it's Andrew Cuomo,

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Speaker 2: and it's Curtis Sliwa running as the Republican. I hate

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01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 2: saying that Curtis shouldn't run. I mean, he's been a

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01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 2: perennial candidate for forever. It's ridiculous, But yeah, you should

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01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 2: make this a two person race because grossly, you're better

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01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 2: off with Cuomo, at least on those policies. But you're

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01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 2: not great with Cuomo.

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01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 4: The guy is awful.

1640
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 2: The former governor let grandmas die in nursing homes, was

1641
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 2: engaged in sexual impropriety where his brother and I'm not

1642
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 2: going to forget this, he gets to have his career

1643
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 2: on News Nation. But Chris Cuomo was trying to figure

1644
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 2: out how he can find those women and disparage them.

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01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 2: Come now, I don't want to think that these are

1646
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 2: good people at all all, but this idea of socialism,

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01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 2: that's not difference between the two parties. Of course it is,

1648
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 2: of course it is. So these are two different parties,

1649
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 2: and it's important to remember when they have too many similarities,

1650
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 2: when they're too close to each other, when they're indistinguishable,

1651
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 2: say so aggressively, because the people on the left should

1652
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:29,520
Speaker 2: take that as an insult. And as for this shutdown

1653
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,599
Speaker 2: and who's being hurt and who's doing what.

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Speaker 14: That's just a small sampling of what's been done by

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01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 14: Republicans in the last nine months.

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01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 5: And what have Democrats done for the last nine months.

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01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 14: On the split screen, look at the other side, they've

1658
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 14: shut down the government.

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Speaker 2: That's how you make the argument.

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01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 4: That's how you need to make the arguments. Keep it here.

1661
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz Today. Find

1662
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 2: everything at Tony Katz dot com. Do not ask me

1663
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 2: to lament NBC layoffs. I'm not I'm not doing that.

1664
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, ty cats today. Good to be with you.

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01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 2: There have been layoffs in radio, There've been layoffs everywhere,

1666
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: Yet somehow, when NBC News does it, or when the

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01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 2: government does it, I'm supposed to care. And no, it's

1668
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 2: not that I somehow get a thrill out of people

1669
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,960
Speaker 2: losing their job. I guess it would really depend on

1670
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: the person in the job. But if the job is

1671
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: no longer necessary, the job is no longer necessary. And

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Speaker 2: that's the.

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Speaker 4: Way it is now.

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Speaker 2: If the argument is, hey, they're having these layoffs because

1675
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 2: things are bad, because of mismanagement, whatever, well then that's

1676
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Speaker 2: the story.

1677
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Speaker 4: But it seems to be that they push these kinds

1678
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 4: of stories, They move these kinds of stories.

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01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,920
Speaker 2: As a way of saying, my gosh, look what's happening

1680
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 2: to this very important industry. I put forth to you

1681
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 2: that I don't view NBC as a very important industry.

1682
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 2: NBC doesn't view me as a very important industry. They

1683
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 2: don't look at you and say you're a very important industry.

1684
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Only they are a very important industry. And I'm just

1685
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 2: not going to buy into that. And I'm exhausted by

1686
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 2: the news coverage that wants us to believe that when

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01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 2: it happens to them, it's really important. When it happens

1688
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 2: to you, I don't know why it is you're discussing it.

1689
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 2: And then there's this story about Anna Pauline a Luna,

1690
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 2: not specifically about the member of Congress. It's about getting

1691
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 2: these files regarding the assassination of JFK. And she is

1692
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 2: the one who's in charge of this file release, and

1693
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 2: she says that Russia is handing over their findings on

1694
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 2: the assassination of President John Kennedy three hundred and fifty

1695
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 2: page document to shed light on the KGB secret insights

1696
01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 2: into the events surrounding Kennedy being shot November twenty secon

1697
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty three. Would anybody believe what the Russians

1698
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 2: stand over? I mean, it might be interesting, but you

1699
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't believe it, right, There's no possible way you would

1700
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 2: believe that that. You would look at that and say, well, clearly,

1701
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 2: the Soviets they were able to do the good investigation.

1702
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 2: It's the Soviets. Even if they had data. Do you

1703
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 2: think they would hand to the United States the proper data.

1704
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 2: Who buys this? Who believes this, Who in their right.

1705
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 4: Mind would think that this is in any way possible?

1706
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 2: You'd have to be out of your mind to believe that.

1707
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't believe. I don't believe anything that Vladimir Putin

1708
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 2: says now then, tomorrow, never, never, once, never ever, But

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01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 2: I have no problem with with files being released, thus

1710
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 2: knowing things that maybe we didn't know before about the

1711
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 2: assassination of Kennedy or Robert Kennedy or nearly anybody else.

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Speaker 4: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. Tomorrow, everyone, take care,