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Speaker 1: The Indiana Hoosiers are the undisputed, unblemished Big Ten Football

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Speaker 1: champions and the number one team in the land. And

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Speaker 1: the guy that has been there for every step of

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Speaker 1: the way throughout this journey from the depths as I

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Speaker 1: talked about with the Tale of Two Cities, right the

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Speaker 1: depths of darkness to the Season of light. Don Fisher,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers, joining us now on

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Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and poor guest line and Don,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to begin with this, I know, and I'll

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Speaker 1: give you all the credit in the world because you

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Speaker 1: are the one guy from the get go when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Kurt Signetti, there was never really a doubt

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Speaker 1: in your mind as to what the ceiling was going

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Speaker 1: to be for this team and how impressed you were.

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Speaker 1: But if you could for me, Don just summarize I

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Speaker 1: guess the emotion or not just for you, but just

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Speaker 1: for that building and for that fan base of seeing

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Speaker 1: it all collectively come together on what was literally an

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Speaker 1: unbelievably special night at Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Well, the culmination, of course, was the third down pass

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Speaker 2: that Fernando Mendoza through to Charlie Becker, who made a

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Speaker 2: terrific catch and the throw was perfect. At that point,

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Speaker 2: you knew this game was going to belong to Indiana.

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Speaker 2: And I have my twin brother in Salt Lake City

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Speaker 2: calls me up the next day and says, you guys

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Speaker 2: are a little bit too giddy there the last minute

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Speaker 3: Something could have happened.

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Speaker 2: I said, no, it can't, because Signetti is our coach,

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Speaker 2: and at any rate, I can just tell you from

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Speaker 2: my perspective, of course, hugely emotional ballgame, great win for

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Speaker 2: Indiana Athletics, but more importantly, a tremendous win for the

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Speaker 2: Hoosier Nation.

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Speaker 3: A group of people, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about everybody that's jumped on board here

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Speaker 2: in the last you know, a couple of years now.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people who bought season tickets for

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Speaker 2: year after year after year back in the sixties and

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Speaker 2: the seventies and the eighties and nineties, the two thousands

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Speaker 2: people who have been coming to Indiana football games forever,

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Speaker 2: and for me, those are the people that and I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that the people who have jumped on board

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be there. They should be there, But my point

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Speaker 2: is the people that have gone through this for all

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Speaker 2: these years and the struggles that Indiana football has had.

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Speaker 2: That to me is the most important faction of folks

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Speaker 2: that I want to think and stay of hanging in

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Speaker 2: and spend the money that it took to watch football

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Speaker 2: at Indiana and to support football at Indiana. And those

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Speaker 2: are the people that I feel the best for.

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Speaker 1: Don you know, Bill Binner is going to join me

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Speaker 1: coming up in about an hour. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: guy that sat through countless numbers of sleet storms watching

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo White run for two hundred and sixty yards, and

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Speaker 1: and it's those folks, right, And I think also about

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Speaker 1: and I'd mentioned this on Friday, and you and I've

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Speaker 1: kind of what Kurt Signetti has delivered. And I don't

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Speaker 1: mean that to say one is that, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're two separate men. I understand that. But Hepner had

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Speaker 1: this belief of, like, no, this is where this program

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Speaker 1: he was a little bit crazy back then, and then

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Speaker 1: unfortunately he got sick and he never got a chance

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Speaker 1: Saturday night, And that's what made me so happy for

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti was the fact that here's a guy that

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Speaker 1: came in with his own also his own vision and

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Speaker 1: with that vision and belief that we had seen preview

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Speaker 1: of before and I never thought I'd see it, Don,

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Speaker 1: But that, to me is what made it so special

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you, Don, when you said unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, no, I still don't believe it, right,

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Speaker 3: It was there's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: And look all I can tell you, and you're right

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Speaker 2: about Terry Heppner. He knew he could get this program

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Speaker 2: heartbreaking because and I know his son Drew was at

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Speaker 2: it yesterday and I started blubbering because I when I

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Speaker 1: Well, I know what he meant to you, don I

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Speaker 1: mean I don't. I wasn't there firsthand, but you hear it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that for those that don't know, anybody

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Speaker 1: And I feel like yeah, And it's like Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 2: That's the best way I can say it. If that

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Speaker 2: makes sense, No, it makes sense. It makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 2: And that's the way to put it because hep was

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Speaker 2: he knows he could have turned it around, and he

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Speaker 2: would have done it had he lived, but he did not.

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Speaker 2: And Kurt Signetti has followed whatever his vision was, whatever

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Speaker 2: vision that Terry had, he spottled that up and you

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Speaker 2: put it perfectly. That's exactly the way I feel about it.

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Speaker 1: Don when you look at you know, I thought it

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Speaker 1: was interesting after the game, Don Fisher, the voice of

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Speaker 1: line when when Kurt Signetti said, and he kind of

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Speaker 1: Indiana is going to go put their best foot forward, right,

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Speaker 1: And you know, were you able to see anything after

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, here's the thing he did allow his

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Speaker 2: which you would expect that any coach would do that.

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Speaker 2: And so everything that I saw from Kurt Signetti post game,

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Speaker 2: he had all kinds of responsibilities with the me The

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Speaker 2: Fox interviewed him, of course, and of course the Big

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Speaker 2: about that is he took time at the very I mean,

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Speaker 2: we were on the air for about forty five minutes

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Speaker 2: after the ballgame was over with. And he finally got

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Speaker 2: the time, if he had the opportunity, And he finally

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Speaker 2: got to us and got to talk to our people

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Speaker 2: on the air, and who's your nation, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: that listens on the radio. So I just think the

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Speaker 2: guy is first class in every way. He's the greatest

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Speaker 2: he's accomplished. And without doubt, I think this is a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal run for Indiana football that we've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: It's historic in every way, and it's a renaissance for

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Speaker 2: the program. And without question, I can't wait for the

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Speaker 2: excited about what we're about to see in the college

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, Don, when people say, you know,

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Speaker 1: What he's done is I don't care whether you're talking

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Speaker 1: like this. Now, having said all of that, do you

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Speaker 1: feel Don that there is still that there are still

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Speaker 1: Or are they at the point now of this is

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Speaker 2: Well, every game plan needs to be adjusted, there no

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Speaker 2: doubt about that because of who you're playing, so that

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Speaker 3: That's just a fact. He's been like this since he's.

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Speaker 2: Gotten here, and I trust everything that he does in

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Speaker 2: that sense. His game plans are ridiculously good. And I

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Speaker 2: the best offensive coordinator Indiana's ever had, and that was

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Speaker 2: Kaylen de Boer. Now how long ago was that? Not

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Speaker 2: de Boor. He did a tremendous job here at Indiana

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Speaker 2: And I still think that Kayln de Boor is a

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Speaker 2: great football coach. And he's getting all kinds of up

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Speaker 3: That kind of.

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Speaker 2: Thing, and the fact that they made the college football

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Speaker 2: Playoff is in a lot of people's minds is very

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Speaker 2: very I don't know what the right word would be,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people would say they don't deserve

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Speaker 2: but I will say this that Indiana is capable of

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti's that good.

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Speaker 3: And if we played Kylen.

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Speaker 2: De boor or if we play Kirby Smart or whoever

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Speaker 2: the coach is, I will not take anything away from

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti's ability to dominate that football game with his

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Speaker 2: thinking process and how he goes about things. The only

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Speaker 2: way Indiana is going to get beat in this college

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Speaker 2: football playoff, in my mind, is because the other team

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Speaker 2: has more talent, because Indiana's talent is not what it

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Speaker 2: is to some of these programs, but the coaching is

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Speaker 1: Don I got a kick out of it. Got a

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Speaker 1: good buddy of mine went to James Madison, and you know,

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Speaker 1: James Madison obviously got into the college football Payoff as well,

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Speaker 1: and he sent me a text that said, it's great

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Speaker 1: Don and I got to give you that the ultimate

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Speaker 3: With, Well, no, I don't see a difference.

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Speaker 2: Coach Knight was demanding on players of basically anybody in

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Speaker 2: It's just the way it was at the time that

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Speaker 2: And it's simply so, very again, very simply like a

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Speaker 3: And vice versa with Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, Don, I wanted to ask you this. There

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night. So I'd like Don Fisher to say, what

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Speaker 2: Well again, and there's no individual that I thought about

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Speaker 3: For the who's Your Nation. I really did.

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Speaker 2: I wanted this program to take off at some point

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Speaker 2: And now it's changed completely. And that's why I'm really

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Speaker 1: Well, don for the Hoo's your Nation. You've been the

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Speaker 1: and we certainly look forward to it. Always appreciate the time. Don,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ja, Don Fisher joining us the voice of the

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