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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. We've got the Letitia.

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Speaker 2: James story, We've got the redistricting story.

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Speaker 1: We've got just the left opposed to fighting crime.

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Speaker 2: It's a weird, weird news cycle. I'm gonna get to

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Speaker 2: all of it, Tony Kats. Tony Kats today, But if

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Speaker 2: you don't mind, just really quick, can we stop being

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Speaker 2: insane at airports? And can we start throwing people in

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Speaker 2: I can't watch one more video of somebody in an

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Speaker 1: These people need.

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Speaker 2: To be dealt with in a very, very very public way.

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Speaker 1: There need to be.

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Speaker 2: Charges here that are so absolutely severe that people are like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let me counter that by saying the TSA needs to

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Speaker 1: To private security.

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Speaker 2: Let me go the other way with this by saying

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Speaker 2: the airlines have to be better at what they do

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Speaker 2: because they stink, because they treat the passenger poorly, and

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Speaker 2: what they get away with a little charge for everything.

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Speaker 2: It's like being charged the resort fee in Vegas and

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Speaker 2: you don't even have a pool at this hotel. The

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Speaker 2: airlines have to do better, the airports have to do better,

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Speaker 1: But dear gush, you missed your flight, something went wrong.

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Speaker 1: You don't get to attack people for it. You aren't

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Speaker 1: so special America, You're just not. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: I think these places should be better, but you don't

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Speaker 2: go my way. So I'm allowed to lose my mind

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Speaker 2: Not you, I'm not talking about you.

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Speaker 1: They they should go to jail for twenty.

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Speaker 2: Years and maybe this will stop, because it has to stop.

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Speaker 2: This stuff isn't funny. I don't want people making videos

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Speaker 2: on this anymore. If somebody is engaged in act of violence,

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Speaker 2: I want the people on the plane to put that

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Speaker 1: It's enough. Can't have a society like this where.

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Speaker 2: The anxiety has so completely ripped away people's souls and

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Speaker 2: and I want to see the punishment fit the crime.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So you've got the redistricting drama, you've got the DC

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Speaker 2: crime drama, You've got this breaking news regarding Letitia James,

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Speaker 2: and then of course Gavin Newsom is out of his mind.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz to say, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Let me bring in Ed Marscy of hotair dot com.

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Speaker 2: You know him, you love him. You have his pinup calendar.

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Speaker 2: There's a there's a you don't have a pinup calendar. I,

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Speaker 2: the way, Harry Sisson of The Leftist has a pinup calendar.

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Speaker 2: It's just not strong enough to put in the pin

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Speaker 2: That's a true story, that's science.

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Speaker 1: I said the joke. I meant the joke. I apologize

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Speaker 2: Let's start with what's going on with Letitia James, because

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Speaker 2: get into with you. Ed marscif hootair dot com. The

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Speaker 2: lawsuit between Trump and Letitia James. How Latisia James, the

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Speaker 2: You've got this now, this decision today is based on

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Speaker 1: Redistricting is the story Texas the Democrat.

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Speaker 4: It passed the House.

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Speaker 2: These are very unserious people, and I do think this

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Speaker 4: Your point exactly.

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Speaker 4: Because I don't think it belongs there.

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Speaker 3: I think redistricting is a political process that belongs with

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Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you there is no special session

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Speaker 3: First off, they're not going to lose the House forever.

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Speaker 2: Happened A thousand wait, in many ways one thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: But you I think in your analysis, I think you're

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Speaker 1: I'm going to stick to what I said if you aren't.

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Speaker 2: Willing to fight the fire with the fire, you will

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Speaker 2: lose it for a while.

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Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong, you're wrong. Ah, because that's great.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to support that argument at all. Great,

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I think when you're talking about a

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Speaker 3: Even if they do this, it might be uh, they

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't even get like loose sight of the concept

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Speaker 1: Once you start doing this, you don't know how this

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Speaker 2: You redistrict and claim you're going to pick up five

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Speaker 1: And you only pick up three. That's disaster.

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Speaker 2: And there's real concern that if you redraw some of

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Speaker 1: So why shouldn't they.

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Speaker 3: Right hey, and again, because this is a political process,

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Speaker 4: In Indiana to do that.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do it here too. There are no Republican

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Speaker 3: You can't possibly jerrymander it better than it already is.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that they're going to get anything out

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Speaker 4: And trying to redo.

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Speaker 2: This and they might It is all very very high stakes.

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Speaker 2: More to get to with Edmarrissey at hootair dot com.

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So if you're going to talk about redissecting and California,

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Speaker 2: Bathroom Beyond Lamonas Marcus Lamonas all the money in the

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Speaker 1: The regulations, it's all too restrictive. There's no way to

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Speaker 2: Newsom responds by saying, you mean the bed Bathroom Beyond

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is a billion.

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Speaker 3: That's the reason why they're going to lose four house

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Speaker 1: California I con institution.

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Speaker 3: It's nineteen forty eight it's an institution move their headquarters

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Speaker 3: they did close all their stories. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: was two years ago. I think it was much sooner

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Speaker 3: than that. I thought overstock dot band. Overstock bought them

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Speaker 3: and it's been and they've been working on reopening stores

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Speaker 3: under the bed Bath and Beyond brand ever since. I'm

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Speaker 3: glad to see that they're coming back. I actually like

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Speaker 3: shopping at bed Bath and Beyond. They had some great deals,

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Speaker 3: interesting selections.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: I hope they come back. If they don't, they don't,

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Speaker 3: and that's just business. But the idea that you're going

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Speaker 3: to ridicule people for trying to relaunch a business because

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Speaker 3: they won't do it in your jurisdiction because your jurisdiction

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Speaker 3: stinks is strange. It's kind of strange to me that

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Speaker 3: other than reach out and say, look, I think we're

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Speaker 3: on the wrong foot here. We've got a great business climate.

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Speaker 3: Let me explain to you all the different ways that

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Speaker 3: we can make this work for you. He just decided

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Speaker 3: to get into a troll war with a business that

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Speaker 3: could open up a bunch of jobs in this state.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but he's pretty.

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Speaker 2: Said when he does that, When Gavin Newsom does that,

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Speaker 2: he's saying this matters more. It mattered more to him

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Speaker 2: to be able to win the troll war than it

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Speaker 2: does to actually help his state. Look at the stuff

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Speaker 2: he's doing with the tweets about Donald Trump pretending to

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Speaker 2: act like him and tweet like he does. And then

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Speaker 2: he's got this tweet where's he's like dressed like Rambo

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Speaker 2: and he's firing this gun at people, And you're like,

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Speaker 2: first of all, it's California, you hate guns, and secondly,

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Speaker 2: the gun's firing. You really want to bring up fires

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Speaker 2: after what happened in the palis Age, which still isn't rebuilt.

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Speaker 2: It was a great point made by Carl Higbee on Newsmax.

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Speaker 1: But it is very, very true true.

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Speaker 2: This is what matters more to California Democrats. I can't

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Speaker 2: imagine why I should take this back. Are you telling

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Speaker 2: me that the Democratic Party, and I think we've seen

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Speaker 2: proof of it, they really can't figure out that this

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Speaker 2: is wrong. This doesn't attract voters. I mean, never mind,

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Speaker 2: their policies don't. But trolling is their is their future.

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Speaker 3: This is all they've got. All they have is basically

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Speaker 3: social media. They don't have core values anymore. Their core

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Speaker 3: value is Donald Trump. And this is I mean, this

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Speaker 3: is The New York Times actually started talking about this

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Speaker 3: a little bit. And that piece that you mentioned is

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Speaker 3: that their core value is Donald Trump. Nobody knows what

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Speaker 3: they stand for anymore except that they don't like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: And so Trump arrangement syndrome is all they have.

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Speaker 3: And you've got Gavin Newsome trying to do a comic interpretation,

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Speaker 3: I guess of Donald Trump. Here's the thing that I think,

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Speaker 3: and I've got a piece that's coming up on I

489
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Speaker 3: think Kellyan Conway actually put her finger on this earlier today,

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Speaker 3: and I hadn't really thought of it in these terms,

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Speaker 3: which is that the twenty twenty four election was about

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Speaker 3: strength versus weakness. Democrats were offering weakness, Trump was offering strength. Now,

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Speaker 3: tarmap is not a popular figure. I know, he's got

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Speaker 3: a lot of fans and stuff like that. He's not

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Speaker 3: a popular figure across a broad spectrum of people in

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Speaker 3: the United States, and yet he won not just the

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Speaker 3: electoral college, but he won the popular vote. Why because

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Speaker 3: people were tired of weakness. It was sort of in

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Speaker 3: a way like the nineteen eighty election, is that people

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Speaker 3: were looking at Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan and saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe Ronald Reagan is an actor, and I

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Speaker 3: don't know what you know. I don't know what kind

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Speaker 3: of a president he makes, but he's at least somebody

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Speaker 3: who is who projects strength where Jimmy Carter is projecting malaise. Right,

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Speaker 3: And I think it was the exact same thing. I

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Speaker 3: think Kellyan Conway really put her finger on it. And

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Speaker 3: this brings us back to something that our you know,

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Speaker 3: our friend and blossopher Andrew Breitbart always said, always emphasized

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Speaker 3: politics is downstream of culture. And the culture got sick

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Speaker 3: and tired of weakness, and it shifted people to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: even though he was terribly unpopular by normal measures. People

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Speaker 3: were sick and tired of weakness and they chose strength.

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Speaker 3: And so now you've got Donald Trump cleaning up Washington DC.

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Speaker 3: You've got Donald Trump solving the border crisis literally within

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Speaker 3: weeks of taking office and is now ejecting people and

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Speaker 3: more importantly incentivizing people to leave in record numbers. That strength,

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Speaker 3: he's intervened in six conflicts and managed to bring people

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Speaker 3: to the table.

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Speaker 1: Let me counter that strength. Let me counter with the insanity.

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Speaker 2: If that is indeed the case, that strength is the

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Speaker 2: thing that is wanted desired gets voters in Washington DC.

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Speaker 2: According to CNN, the polling says that eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: the people don't like the Trump take over. They don't

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Speaker 2: like the arrest, they don't like the cleaning up the streets.

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Speaker 2: Eighty percent, that's what they claim over at CNN. They

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Speaker 2: don't want this, they don't like this.

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Speaker 1: JD.

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Speaker 2: Van's the Vice President, Pete Haggs at the Defense Secretary

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Speaker 2: are walking through the union station and they're getting booed

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Speaker 2: and yelled at. The Democratic Party is now showing themselves

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Speaker 2: to say, you want to clean up this city, how

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Speaker 2: dare you, which seems to be their way of saying,

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Speaker 2: let's not notice that the city is a mess to

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Speaker 2: begin with, because that's bad for us. They don't know

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Speaker 2: that they're offering up weakness. They don't know that people

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Speaker 2: are attracted to strength. They don't know what it is

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Speaker 2: you're talking about, and they find themselves on the side

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Speaker 2: of don't clean up the mess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and.

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Speaker 3: This is the reason why they don't have a core

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Speaker 3: value other than to oppose Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: And that's been true.

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Speaker 1: Proof of it.

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Speaker 3: That was the Kamala Harris campaign. She didn't even put

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Speaker 3: out really an agenda or a policy, you know, specific

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Speaker 3: policy proposals, including how to deal with border crisis, which

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Speaker 3: they created, right.

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Speaker 4: Her whole thing was.

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Speaker 3: That Donald Trump is illegitimate and should be disqualified from

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Speaker 3: office because he's a threat to democracy. Your only choice

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Speaker 3: is to vote for us because he's a poopy head.

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Speaker 3: I mean it really just it came down to that.

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Speaker 3: That's what their whole campaign was. That was what the

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Speaker 3: campaign was.

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Speaker 2: The campaign was, you can't vote for Trump because he's bad,

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Speaker 2: and if you don't vote for us, you're a sexist

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Speaker 2: and a racist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And people are sick and tired of that.

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Speaker 3: They're sick and tired of a lot of things that

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Speaker 3: project weakness. And I think that this is really a

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Speaker 3: cultural movement. I think what happened in November was a

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Speaker 3: cultural more than political. So certainly there's politics involved in here,

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Speaker 3: and the politics of landing on the twenty percent of

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Speaker 3: all these eighty twenty issues is part of that Trump

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Speaker 3: derangement syndrome. Democrats are driving themselves to that point. But

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Speaker 3: it's cultural.

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Speaker 1: Last thing before I let you go, I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: You and I were both around that world. I lived

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles at the time of Andrew Breitbart. I

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Speaker 2: never worked at Breitbart. I did do some writing there.

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Speaker 2: We were not friends, but we certainly knew each other

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Speaker 2: were and certainly talked when we were together at social occasions.

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Speaker 2: Are you arguing that Gavin Newsom doesn't know this? Listen,

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom might be terrible, right, we would agree on this,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think he's dumb, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: you think he's dumb either.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know this.

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Speaker 2: To show some strength, to show some resolve, to show

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Speaker 2: that that's better.

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Speaker 4: He knows this, but he doesn't know how to do it.

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Speaker 3: That's the reason why he's on the internet trolling, because

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Speaker 3: he thinks that that's what that is. He thinks that

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Speaker 3: that strength. He thinks that that's all that Donald Trump is.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't get it at all. Does he know that

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Speaker 3: the problem is weakness?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think he kind of senses it in a way,

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Speaker 3: which is the reason why he's trying to do a

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump impression on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: And it's not him. It's not authentic. Donald Trump is authentic, right.

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Speaker 3: It would be like it'd be like if Jimmy Carter

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Speaker 3: tried to do a Ronald Reagan impression, which Jimmy Carter,

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Speaker 3: by the way, was smart enough not to do. Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Carter was smart enough to remain authentic.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: And we can have all sorts of complaints about the

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Speaker 3: Carter presidency, but Jimmy Carter was a pretty authentic guy.

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Speaker 3: And you know, uh, I have some sympathy for Jimmy Carter.

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Speaker 3: I just I will say that he's to you. But

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Speaker 3: he was terrible president. But he wasn't a terrible president

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Speaker 3: because he was he had malice. He was a terrible

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Speaker 3: president because he didn't understand how to how to operate

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Speaker 3: from a position of strength, and Ronald Reagan did. And

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Speaker 3: the same thing is true with Democrats right now. But

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Speaker 3: they're malicious in their ignorance right now, and Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 3: is smart enough to understand that there is a weakness

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Speaker 3: issue with the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 4: But he's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not smart enough to understand what it actually is

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Speaker 3: and how he's contributing to it. If Gavin Gavin the internet,

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Speaker 3: if he if he's if he issued an order, an

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Speaker 3: executive order, ordering that permits be granted to all of

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Speaker 3: the homeowners and the palisades regardless of what the Coastal

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Speaker 3: Commission or Karen Bass's administration Los Angeles did, forcing those

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Speaker 3: permits to be issued, that would actually be strengthened. He

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Speaker 3: would actually probably get a huge boost is popular standing.

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Speaker 4: He won't act. He just likes to.

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Speaker 3: Troll, and that's the problem. Donald Trump acts. Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 3: likes to troll, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Trump likes the trol too, but he also acts, so

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Speaker 1: I think he does.

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Speaker 2: Part one Depart two at Marcy hotair dot com. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate taking the time to be with us hot air

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Speaker 2: dot com. Follow him on Twitter x at Marcy two

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Speaker 2: rs two s's that's that's how you spell the name.

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Speaker 2: More to get to I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today. Just a quick continuation of part of what

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Speaker 2: Ed Marcy was talking about, because this is true when

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Speaker 2: we talk about the left doesn't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: They don't know how to respond, they don't know how

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Speaker 2: to react, they don't know how to engage. I think

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Speaker 2: we all agree that that is true. What we if

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Speaker 2: we're honest brokers, even if we're not on the political left,

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Speaker 2: we ask ourselves, how how.

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Speaker 1: Is it that they're so bad at this? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: I have argued the same thing that Ed was discussing there,

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Speaker 2: and it's just a very important point. I'll give Ed

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Speaker 2: Marcy full credit. Ed Marcy, hotair dot com. The left

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Speaker 2: has no value system other than Trump bad.

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Speaker 1: They have nothing that they.

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Speaker 2: Share in terms of an idea. What do they claim,

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Speaker 2: We're not mean like Republicans? What do they say we

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Speaker 2: love all people as opposed to the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: But they don't actually have a vision for the country.

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 2: The vision is we're not racist, you are, so stop

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Speaker 2: being racist. Well that's not an uplifting message. That's calling

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Speaker 2: everybody who seems to disagree with you a racist or

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Speaker 2: bigot or transfer or whatever kind of thing that you

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Speaker 2: invent whatever word you invent to be able to try

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Speaker 2: and discredit and disparage somebody, And it can be seen

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Speaker 2: here in this call they had the DNC chair Kevin Martin.

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Speaker 1: Ken Martin was.

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Speaker 2: Holding a press call on redistricting and said this.

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Speaker 6: The Republican administration has given us no reason to work

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Speaker 6: with their administration. What they're doing on every single level

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Speaker 6: as a moral and unconstitutional. I'll leave it to the

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Speaker 6: policymakers around the country and elected officials to decide what

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Speaker 6: they're going to do in the best interests of the

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Speaker 6: constituents they represent. But let me say right now, as

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Speaker 6: I said for weeks now, this is a moment in

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Speaker 6: time where we have to stand up to this fascist regime.

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Speaker 2: What new voter does that get you, What new person

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Speaker 2: does that attract you. You have been referring to Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump as a fascist going on.

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Speaker 1: Ten years, ten years.

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Speaker 2: And he won reelection after you through every single indictment

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Speaker 2: you could at the guy you lied about Russia, Russia, Russia,

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Speaker 2: You impeached him twice, and he still wins. At some moment,

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Speaker 2: you have to know this doesn't work. And my argument

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Speaker 2: is that they have to know it doesn't work. They're

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Speaker 2: not dumb, all right, Jasmine Crockett. Notwithstanding, they're not dumb.

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Speaker 2: So take a moment to ask yourself that, to go

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Speaker 2: over that through your head. You can argue that they're

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Speaker 2: dumb all you want, They're not. Why in the world

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Speaker 2: would you keep doing this? Why in the world would

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Speaker 2: you keep saying these same things over and over and

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Speaker 2: over again. And the only answer that one could possibly

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Speaker 2: come to, the only possibility, is that they truly don't

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Speaker 2: have anything they can say, They have nothing that they

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Speaker 2: can do. And the question as to why is answered

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Speaker 2: by will look what they created, Look at the radical

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Speaker 2: that they have been kind of ges dating. They created

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Speaker 2: the monster, and the monster has to feed and this

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Speaker 2: is the kind of rhetoric they feed on. You didn't

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Speaker 2: create a democratic party that has a fundamental difference on

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Speaker 2: foreign policy or on domestic policy. You created a progressive

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Speaker 2: party that finds itself aligned with the Democratic Socialists, nay,

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Speaker 2: the communists.

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Speaker 1: And they want to burn it all down.

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Speaker 2: And in a burn it all down society, Marxism is

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Speaker 2: the thing that drives. And it turns out that Marxism

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Speaker 2: has less and less of a willing audience.

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Speaker 1: It connects.

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Speaker 2: They did this to themselves and they can't get out

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Speaker 2: of what they've done.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katts tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Everyone to take care of