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Speaker 1: That's a lot of money to pay for a TV station.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, media landscape in Indianapolis changing, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Eighty three million dollar deal?

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Speaker 1: This is like wild? Yeah that the folks who own

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Speaker 1: wish TV, who has our news gathering partner, have announced

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Speaker 1: that they have purchased WRTV six, which is the ABC

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Speaker 1: affiliate has been for I think my entire life here

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, for a staggering eighty three million.

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Speaker 3: Dollars strategic investment.

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Speaker 2: It looks like because with WRTV now, Circle City is

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Speaker 2: going to gain access to all the ABC programming, which

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Speaker 2: includes the NBA WNBA and some college football broadcasts.

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Speaker 1: And it's fascinating. Now I'm very excited because I just

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Speaker 1: expect to see the our friend Phil Sanchez on all

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Speaker 1: the newscasts all the time.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the anchor for wish TV, and now we

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Speaker 1: can just see him simulcast on ABC and look forward

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Speaker 1: to just all fill all the time on all my

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Speaker 1: television channels. Yeah. But it's fascinating because when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid growing up until what I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's ten years ago, at Camera Hung and Ben, wish

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Speaker 1: TV was the CBS affiliate and then ultimately they ended

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Speaker 1: over ended up flipping over to was TTV four when

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Speaker 1: I was a kid channel Channel four, CBS four as

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Speaker 1: it's called now, which is owned by the same people

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Speaker 1: owned Fox fifty nine. And so now NAWAN, who owns

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Speaker 1: Circle City Broadcasting is the company's name, right, was gonna

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Speaker 1: get another cracket owning owning in a network affiliate In

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Speaker 1: terms of being with ABC. It is interesting too, how

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna have how television in this city is

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Speaker 1: sort of mirroring radio in which a couple of companies

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Speaker 1: are owning the majority of the properties. Right, You've got

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Speaker 1: CBS and four and Fox fifty nine owned by the

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Speaker 1: same people. You'll have wish TV and WRTV owned by

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Speaker 1: the same people. So you're really sort of seeing the

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Speaker 1: same thing in our business now happening over in television.

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Speaker 2: So this acquisition is going to add WRTV two Circle

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Speaker 2: City's existing lineup. As you mentioned, they have wish TV,

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Speaker 2: they also have my INDIETV twenty three and Circulus Digital Media.

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Speaker 2: And they say that this is going to strengthen their

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Speaker 2: local media presence and enhance the value to the viewer

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Speaker 2: and their advertisers. And you got to wonder WRTV has

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Speaker 2: that building, which is on Meridian Street in Indianapolis now

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Speaker 2: is we're going to move over there.

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Speaker 1: And it is fascinating and this is more your world

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Speaker 1: because you were on television for years. But whenever these

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Speaker 1: purchases happen, the immediate responses, well, how's it going to

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Speaker 1: affect the employees?

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Speaker 2: Right, how's this affect me? That's everyone's first response with anything.

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Speaker 1: Sure, And so when Urban One bought WIBC, we were

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Speaker 1: chuckling because all the people said, well, that's it for WIBC,

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Speaker 1: They're done. Get ready for it to be uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Spanish come one day. And we were like, yeah, these

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Speaker 1: guys like money, and we make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll be fine and to it. And not

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Speaker 1: only in fine.

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Speaker 2: We.

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Speaker 1: Love working for these guys. And from the extent of

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Speaker 1: we never hear from them, they're like, just keep the

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Speaker 1: ratings high, in the revenue flow and you'll be just fine.

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Speaker 3: Because money, it's pretty good agreement.

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Speaker 1: Money is the universal language, right, that is that? So

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Speaker 1: it will be fascinating to see what changes though come

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Speaker 1: to WRTV, because let's face it, you're sort of bound

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Speaker 1: and again you can correct me if I'm wrong on this.

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Speaker 1: TV's your your area of expertise, but you're sort of

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Speaker 1: bound by certain programming, right like you're ABC.

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Speaker 2: Well, sure, there's obviously the syndicated contracts, and many times

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Speaker 2: those contracts will say you have to air this program

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Speaker 2: within a certain amount of time. I don't foresee a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of changes in regards to.

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Speaker 1: That, right. So that's where I come to, how much

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Speaker 1: can you actually tinker the network affiliate in terms of

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Speaker 1: you know, you can't quote unquote flip the format per se. No,

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Speaker 1: So is it really unlike radio or you came and

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Speaker 1: do basically whatever you want to do with it? It

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Speaker 1: almost is, And I think it was alluded to this

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Speaker 1: Presley's it's really strengthening the brand itself. Right now, I

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Speaker 1: have this other mega property to put with what I

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Speaker 1: able to condense those save you know, a few dollars here,

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Speaker 1: a few dollars there. But I don't think you're going

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Speaker 1: to see some wholesale change to WRTV six.

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Speaker 2: No. I doubt that what they might be able to

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Speaker 2: do is if they had to preempt certain programming, they

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Speaker 2: could put it on the other station. More than anything,

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Speaker 2: what I would gather has happen is because they'll have

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Speaker 2: that affects the non.

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Speaker 3: On air apartments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, more like you know, the collections department or possibly

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Speaker 2: the the HR department, because they won't need multiple people

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Speaker 2: when one person could do the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this is what I figured out in

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Speaker 1: this business. It took me a while to figure it out.

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Speaker 1: What do you call it? The peda level? Yeah, pain

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Speaker 1: in the ass level. Oh you said it, Well you

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Speaker 1: can say that. I'm still problem with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your your PEDA level should never be higher than

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Speaker 3: your worth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the and and uh, I'm the best example

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Speaker 1: of this right pretty much. I have a like, I'm

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Speaker 1: very high on the on the amount of drama I

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Speaker 1: cause for the the the or cohubs. Well, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say the muckety box here, you know, the bit

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Speaker 1: the big timer. But I bring a lot of good

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Speaker 1: qualities to this station too, and that you like, you

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Speaker 1: accept that when you bring someone like me on board,

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Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, we're there's a lot of complaint phone

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Speaker 1: calls about this guy, but we also get a lot

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Speaker 1: of traction, a lot of attention because of this guy.

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Speaker 1: And I never do anything that would be untoward in

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Speaker 1: terms of the rules and regulations by which we are

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Speaker 1: forced to play by here, and the drama I bring

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Speaker 1: is just mostly telling politicians exactly what I think of

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Speaker 1: them and them not not like but same thing.

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Speaker 2: As long as our listeners engage enough, it makes you

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Speaker 2: worth it.

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Speaker 1: And television, while like being the nightly newscaster is a

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Speaker 1: different game, it's sort of the same thing, right, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got a pay X, but we get why based

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Speaker 1: on people tuning in because this person does a good

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Speaker 1: job doing the news or the reporting or the weather

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Speaker 1: or whatever it might be. And so you're saying, the staffing,

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Speaker 1: the way they do things really ain't all that much different.

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Speaker 3: No, probably not.

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Speaker 1: We get to have more fun here, though. Radio is

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Speaker 1: more fun than television.

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Speaker 2: I actually I watched WRTV in the morning. That's my

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Speaker 2: station that I put on in the morning because.

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Speaker 3: They're anchor Kendall cousin Kendall. Kendall's all around all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. When I started here, wish

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Speaker 1: WRTV was our news gathering partner. They worked with WRTV before.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's been several years now. We ended

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Speaker 1: up partnering over with WISH and so now maybe we'll

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Speaker 1: all be one big, happy family.

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Speaker 3: Well that's a decision for someone above our pay grade.

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Speaker 1: Is that's right. I don't want to ever get paid

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Speaker 1: to make any decisions, ever get